1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody is Bucky Brooks and I am joined 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: with Marcus Grant from the Fantasy Football Podcast and he's 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: in place of DJ. We are going to do a 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: different type of Move the Sticks today because instead of 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: dealing with reality, we're going to deal with a little 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: fantasy and Marcus is gonna help us build the ultimate 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: fantasy team. 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 3: Marcus, what's going on? 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 4: Feeling good? 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: Man? You know, we got the last couple of weeks 12 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: before you know, people start putting on pads and hitting 13 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: a little bit. So just trying to enjoy what little 14 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: bit of off season we all got left. 15 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit of off season. 16 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: And I know you, as a devoted Trojan, you're probably 17 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: celebrating rushing to get your Briannie James ordered in Jersey 18 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: so you can make sure you go to the Lakers 19 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: first game and full effect and represent another great Trojan. 20 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: But speaking of Trojans, I mean, look, man, when you 21 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: think about the USC and the Trojan position, we always 22 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: think about quarterbacks. And so when we start fantasy, we 23 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: got a story to quarterbacks, like who are you vibing 24 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 2: on this? 25 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: Year at the quarterback position. 26 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: Well, I think right now, Look, the elites are still 27 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: the elites, right, the guys of the Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, 28 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes. Those are the guys still at 29 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: the top. The problem with those guys is you got 30 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: to go early. You've got to spend maybe a draft 31 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: pick in the second or third round. If you're gonna 32 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: get one of those guys. That isn't tend to be 33 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: how I move. I don't mind these second tier guys, right, 34 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, CJ. 35 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: Stroud. You can get a couple of rounds later. 36 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: If you want to wait even later than that, there 37 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: are some guys out there, Jordan Love who you can 38 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: probably draft somewhere around the ninth or tenth round. That's 39 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: a really good option for you. Jaden Daniels, Rock Purty. 40 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: Even Joe Burrow has slipped a little bit, I think, 41 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: just because of the injury concerns the last couple of years, 42 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has kind of fallen where he's now in 43 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: the eighth or ninth round. 44 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 4: Something like that. 45 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: So I still tend to be believe that if you 46 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: want to wait till the middle part of your you 47 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: can find yourself a quality quarterback that yeah, it's not 48 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's not gonna give you like video game 49 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: numbers every week like Josh Allen would, but they will 50 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: give you good enough numbers on a week to week 51 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: basis that your team should compete and you have a 52 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 1: chance to win. 53 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So when I hear that, everyone knows the usual suspects, 54 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: the guys who are normally the prolific point scorer. So 55 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: we understand how Josh Allen is able to get down 56 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: because he's a dual threat. We think about Lamar Jackson, 57 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: two time MVP, being able to put it together. 58 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 3: But man, everyone are They're all on these young. 59 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: Quarterbacks, right, And so I'm just curious because right out 60 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: the gate, I got to talk. 61 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: To you about Anthony Richardson. 62 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 4: Right. 63 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever heard a more hyped 64 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: quarterback than Richardson, who is only player he was in 65 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: a couple of those games that he played in. But look, man, 66 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: outsiders are all on him and what he's going to 67 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: do for the innflis goals not only in look real football, 68 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: but in fantasy. 69 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: He appears to have a lot of buzz around. 70 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: His absolutely, because the thing we love in fantasy are 71 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: quarterbacks who can run with the football because it's it's 72 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: sort of a a cheat code, right, because you know 73 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna get some decent passing yards. And even look 74 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: at the even for Richardson, right, who we know is 75 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: not a developed passer yet, he's still very much working 76 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: on that part of his game. The fact that he 77 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: ran so effectively, he scored a bunch of rushing You know, 78 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: before Jonathan Taylor came back, Anthony Richardson was basically the 79 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: goal line back there in Indianapolis, and so everybody is 80 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: sort of looking for that and hoping at the same 81 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: time he gets better and more developed as a passer, 82 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: which gives you those extra yards. But I mean, I 83 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: go back to a couple of years ago Justin Fields 84 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: and we're still not sure if he's actually a good 85 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback, But Justin Fields has always been a very 86 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: good fantasy quarterback for some of those same reasons. So yeah, 87 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: the Anthony Richardson hype is strong. Throw in the fact 88 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: that he came back and he said he put on 89 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: some extra muscle. 90 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: He looks bigger. 91 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: That guy everybody really really hyped. So yeah, there have been, 92 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: you know, just battles. I mean Anthony richards and his 93 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: draft position keeps going up and up and up. Right now, 94 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: he is probably in the fifth round somewhere and people 95 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: are legitimately scheming to get Anthony richardson right now. 96 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is is an amazing phenomenon to kind of 97 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: see the buzz around his name. And so we talk 98 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: about like a young quarterback being hyped up, Like I 99 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: got to go right from Anthony Rigidson to maybe the 100 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: most type quarterback prospect that we've talked about in some time, 101 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: and that's your fellow USC Trojan, Caleb Williams. 102 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: What are the. 103 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: Expectations in the fantasy world for the number one overall pick. 104 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: So I think for Caleb Williams, people are looking at him. 105 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: I think if he settles in at the end of 106 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: the year somewhere around quarterback twelve or thirteen, I think 107 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: that's about what expectations are for him. It's weird because 108 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: for me, if you're playing, if you're playing dynasty football 109 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: right where you draft the team and that is your 110 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: team and you keep those players year over year. Caleb 111 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: is the number one quarterback in dynasty football right now. 112 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: But if we're talking about just you know, your standard 113 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: fantasy leagues where you redraft the team every single year. 114 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: I actually like Jaden Daniels a little bit more. 115 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: I think I think with Caleb, like I'm expect having 116 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: a good year, I am sort of cautious because everybody's 117 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: immediately saying, well, he's gonna be the first Bears quarterback 118 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: to throw for four thousand yards and he's gonna set 119 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: all these Bears records, and I think that could happen. 120 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that it happens necessarily in year one 121 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: with Caleb, right, So I hesitate to kind of put 122 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: those expectations on him. But if you want, if you 123 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: want a rookie that you can start in fantasy in 124 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: year one, I think Jayden Daniels is probably more of that. 125 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: The ceilings might maybe not as high, but I think 126 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: he's more ready to produce right now. 127 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because with Jade and Daniels, you're getting 128 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 2: what you talk about everyone wants in a fantasy quarterback, 129 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: and that's the rushing yards. Jayden Daniels, you know, talk 130 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: about kind of like an even slimmer version of Lamar Jackson. 131 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: Potentially when he enters the league. That's really appealing. 132 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: And when you hear Dan Quinn talk about him, they 133 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: talk about how he's already got the playbook. 134 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: Down and how he's doing it. Really interesting, a really 135 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 3: interesting player. 136 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: To discuss, another player to discuss, and he's not necessarily 137 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: a dual threat, but there's a lot of buzz about 138 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: the Chargers, and so everyone is wondering how Jim Harbaugh 139 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: is going to impact Justin Herbert as a fantasy football quarterback. 140 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 141 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: It's funny because I think people have sort of so 142 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: when they first hired Harbaugh and they bring in Greg Roman, 143 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: and they draft Joe Alt, and they bring in you know, 144 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: Gus Edwards and JK. Dobbins, everybody's like, well, it must 145 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: be over for Justin Herbert. That they're going to run 146 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: the ball a million times and Justin Herbert is not 147 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: gonna throw it ever. But I think people have started 148 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: to sort of level out a little bit. That being said, 149 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: you can still get Justin Herbert way off of where 150 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: he used to go. I mean, this is a guy 151 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: that used to be drafted in the sixth, seventh round. 152 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: Now you're talking about the tenth round or so, maybe 153 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: even the eleventh round for Justin Herbert. But I think 154 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: people have started to realize that, Yeah, okay, maybe they 155 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: run it more than they have in the past, but 156 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: they're not going to abandon throwing the football because financially, 157 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: this team still has a lot tied up in Justin Herbert. 158 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, they did lose Keenan Allen, they lost Mike Williams, 159 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: they drafted Lad McConkey, you know, so they still do 160 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: have a desire to throw the football a little bit. 161 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: It just may look a little bit different now. There 162 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: is some some buzz that maybe because Greg Roman is there, 163 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: they use Herbert in the running game a little bit more. 164 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: They have a few more designed runs for him. I I, 165 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, I will wait to see him. The jury 166 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: is out for me on that one. 167 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 4: I don't. 168 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna write put your franchise quarterback 169 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: in harms way that many more times. And look, he's 170 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: not It's not like when Greg Roman had Lamar Jackson. 171 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: It's not like when he had you know, Alex Smith 172 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: or Colin Kaepernick or anybody like that. Justin Herbert's not 173 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: that dude. So that part I'm still skeptical on. But 174 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 1: I am starting to come around to the idea that maybe, 175 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: just maybe, you know, Jim Harbaugh is not gonna take 176 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: this back to nineteen thirty three and run the ball, 177 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, sixty fifty sixty five times a game. 178 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: And then I mean, like, I think it'd be a 179 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: bit of a throwback. I don't think it'd be that much. 180 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: I would anticipate this team looking like those old stand 181 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: through teams when he had Andrew Luck and those guys, 182 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: and they look, they ran it. They would throw it some, 183 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: but they're still about a physical run game and kind 184 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: of being able to set up some play action passes 185 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: and those things. Now, I gotta wrap up the quarterbacks, 186 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: and if I'm gonna wrap up the quarterbacks, I can 187 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: leave out the four time MVP, the guy that everyone 188 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: is hoping can lead the Jets back to prominence and 189 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: Rogers Fantasy value. 190 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 3: What you think? 191 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: He's the guy that right now is going at the 192 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: very end of drafts, in some cases, probably not drafted 193 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: at all. And I think for a lot of people 194 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: it's just a fear of well one, you know, there's 195 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: always the fear that maybe he goes on another spirit 196 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: quest to South America or decides to drop everything and 197 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: run for an office. But I think more legitimately the 198 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: concern is that he's a forty year old guy coming 199 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: off and achilles injury behind an offensive line that last 200 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: year wasn't very good. I mean, I think it's just 201 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: that is sort of what's baked into it. And because 202 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: he you know, he's past the point of his career 203 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: where he runs the football. He used to be a 204 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: very effective runner. He's not that guy anymore. Age and 205 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: certainly caught up to him there. So because of that, 206 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: he has to be incredibly efficient throwing the football. I mean, 207 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: he had that season a couple of years ago where 208 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, he just did not throw interceptions, right, He 209 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: had like the one year he had forty eight touchdowns, 210 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: five picks. 211 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: Thirty seven touchdowns, four picks. 212 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: That's sort of the level of efficiency that he has 213 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: to have in order to compete with the upper echelona 214 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 1: fantasy quarterbacks. And I mean what he did those he 215 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: was phenomenal. That's asking a lot of even you know, 216 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,599 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer of the level of Aaron Rodgers especially, 217 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, had forty so go to be forty one 218 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: years old. 219 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, It's funny because they look the. 220 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: Jets playoff hopes right or died with Aaron Rodgers and 221 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: his ability to stay healthy and his ability continue to 222 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: play at a high level like he's played at for 223 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: the majority of his career. 224 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: But it's just interesting to. 225 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: Track it and wonder where people really lean on him 226 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: when it comes to finally picking him in fantasy because 227 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: of the injury and those things. Any other quarterback that 228 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: were missing, anybody didn't miss before we turn the page 229 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: and go to another position. 230 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: I mean, no, no, no big names here. I mean 231 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 4: I'm interested. 232 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: You know, brock perty is another guy who's kind of 233 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: floating around in the late rounds, and I think it's 234 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: sort of interesting, you know, Other than that, Like I'll 235 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: say this, I'm kind of getting excited about Will Levis 236 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: as like a second quarterback now as you're in every 237 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: week starter. But I'm just kind of curious because they've 238 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: remade that entire offense. Right, Derrick Henry is gone, they 239 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: bring in Calvin Ridley. They seem to be building this 240 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: thing around Will Levis. He's fun to watch because he's 241 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: gonna stand back there and throw yolo balls. It might 242 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: not always be effective, but it'll be entertaining. I know 243 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: that much. 244 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it certainly will be entertaining. He is some one. 245 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: They they've looked, they tried to upgrade the cast around them, 246 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: Kevin Ridley, DeAndre Hopkins. They have some other pieces in 247 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: place in terms of setting up the run game. 248 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: You got Tony poll joining. 249 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: We'll see, because there's been a lot of buzz particularly 250 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 2: there with Brian Callahan going that maybe just maybe he 251 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: can kind of find his way to be at upper 252 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 2: echelon quarterback time will till. 253 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: Well, what will happen? We're gonna take a little break. 254 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 2: Well, I'm back and on the other side, we'll talk 255 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 2: about running backs because you know, running. 256 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 3: Backs are key to being able to be successful in fantasy. 257 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: All right, Mark, so we're back. You know this is 258 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 2: a position that is nearing git to my heart. I 259 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: love running backs and look, even though they're diminished and 260 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: devalued in fantasy, you still got to have one or 261 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: two to be able to get it done. So when 262 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: we talk about the running back position, what's your overall 263 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: strategy when it comes to taking a running back? 264 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: What are you looking for? What is the perfect running 265 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: back in fantasy? 266 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: So for me, I really want to get one of 267 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: the top guys early if I can, right, I mean, 268 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: there are It's so different now, right, I would say 269 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: five ten years ago, you look the first round of 270 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: fantasy drafts and it was majority running backs and maybe 271 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: you get a wide receiver or two sprinkled in there. 272 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: Now it's the complete opposite where it's mostly wide receivers 273 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: and you got a handful of running backs. Still, four guys, 274 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: at least three guys maybe four that go in the 275 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: first round, Christian McCaffrey, no doubt, Jehan Robinson, Breeze Hall. 276 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: Those are your dead licke first round running backs. And 277 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: you can make a case for Jimior Gibbs at the 278 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: back end of the first round. So I want to 279 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: try to get one of those top guys in the 280 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: first round. 281 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 4: You know, maybe I can. 282 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: I can make a case and stretch it out for 283 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor early in the second round something like that. 284 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 4: After that, I tend to wait. 285 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: I think you can get to the middle rounds and 286 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: there's some some guys who maybe aren't super exciting name wise, 287 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: but give you solid production. I mean, you know, I 288 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: like James Cook in Buffalo, especially because we live in 289 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: a PPR world and they're gonna throw him the football. 290 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: I still like David Montgomery. You know, he's he's not sexy, 291 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: but he's solid and he continues to produce, especially when 292 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: he's healthy. I think, you know, Jalen Warren in Pittsburgh, 293 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: I think has some really nice upside. I think James Connor. 294 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: I know he's got an injury history, but when James 295 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: Connor is healthy and on the field, he's really really productive. 296 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: So I can wait and I can build up in 297 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: the early rounds, you know, load up on wide receiver, 298 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: maybe get a top tight end if I want to, 299 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: and still come back in round you know, six, seven, eight, 300 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: and find myself a quality running back. 301 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 4: And that's that tends to be how I operate. 302 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: You know, I am curious because when I when I 303 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: look at some of the finer offenses in the league. 304 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: We always talked about the just in a wide hot perimeter, 305 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 2: but a chan from Miami Dolphins, you know, like when 306 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: he was around and make him plays. You talked about 307 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: he was averaging ninety scrimmag yards per game. And he 308 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 2: is a fun like a highlight a minute player. How 309 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: do we quantify what he is able to bring to 310 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: the fantasy world. 311 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: So he is super exciting and people super love him. 312 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: And the reason I haven't drafted him is because you 313 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: got to go really early to get him. I mean 314 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: he's coming off the board late second round, early third round, which. 315 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 4: For me, I love the fact that he's so explosive. 316 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: He averaged nearly eight yards per carry last year, which 317 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: is an insane I think seven point eight yards per carry, 318 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: which is an insane number. 319 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,359 Speaker 4: What worries me though. 320 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: Is one he did have a little bit of an 321 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: injury situation last year. But also the Dolphins are still 322 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: sort of admitted to Raheem Moster. They brought him back 323 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: on an extension, and he's another guy who's explosive, had 324 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: eighteen rushing touchdowns last year, and I can get Raheem 325 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: most or many many rounds later and I think get 326 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: similar productions. So unless they're going to somehow change everything 327 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: up and give Devon ah Chan the majority of the workload, 328 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: he's still going to be splitting touches and that means 329 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: he needs to average almost eight yards per carry or 330 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: score a bunch of touchdowns, and that's a really really 331 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: hard thing to bank on. So I love the player, 332 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: I love the talent, I just don't necessarily want to 333 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: make that kind of gamble draft wise on a situation 334 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: where he might end up being in a two man 335 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: committee now, not even to say anything about the fact 336 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: that they drafted Jalen Wright out of Tennessee, who could 337 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: step in there and maybe not get enough carries to 338 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: be like an everyday fantasy option, but he could get 339 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: enough carries to make you. 340 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 4: Frustrated about the guy you did draft. 341 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: And so that is sort of my concern with a 342 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: chan where he's going right now. 343 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: Okay, the frustration leads me to talk about the Dallas Cowboys, 344 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: and that will make me about you're Elliott. I don't 345 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: know what to make of Ezekiel Elliott's fantasy value because 346 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like a year ago he was cut 347 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: and let go. 348 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 3: They bring him back. You think they were bringing back 349 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: as part of. 350 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: Rotation, But it seems that in Dallas they're gonna turn 351 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: back to clock to twenty sixteen and Ezekiel Ellis's gonna 352 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: be the feature back because there aren't any notable names 353 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: around him. 354 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: Can Zeke Elliott be a surprise fantasy contributor? 355 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: If he is a surprise, it'll surprise me and you 356 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: both because I'm I'm sort of with you and that, like, 357 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of that backfield where look, 358 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: chances are, yes, Zeke is going to be the lead 359 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: in that backfield, but Rico Dowdell is still there, going 360 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: to get some opportunities. They have Royce Freeman there, Deuce 361 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: Vaughan may show up every now and then and get 362 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: some opportunities there. But also I think a thing to 363 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: consider is that this offensive line is not the same 364 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: offensive line that they had the last time Zeke was there, 365 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: when they those dudes up front that were opening holes 366 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: and we're just kind of road graders there. This is 367 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: a different offensive line there in Dallas, and so that's 368 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: sort of a concern. Throwing the fact that, you know, 369 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: Zekea's not the explosive back he once was. 370 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 4: This is an offense that's certainly. 371 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: More geared toward Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb and throwing 372 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: the football. So I mean, I think because of that, 373 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: that's why you're seeing, you know, zek is kind of 374 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: the first cowboy running back that gets drafted, but that's 375 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, you're looking at round ten or eleven something 376 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: like that. I think generally everybody's sort of like, we 377 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: don't know what to do with this backfield, and so 378 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: because of that, people are just sort of like, we're 379 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: all just going to. 380 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 4: Kind of back away from it right now. Yeah. 381 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: No, it's a hard backfield to sort out. It's hard 382 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: to figure out what to do with them. And as 383 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: much as I love Zeke Elliott for most of his career, 384 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, man. I know he had a little 385 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: flash at the end of the season with the Patriots, 386 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: but to go back to Dallas in to reprise that 387 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: number one role that he lived in for so long. 388 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 389 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: I think it's kind of crazy because two years ago 390 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: they were trying to get rid of him and we 391 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: were saying Antoni Pobas needs all the carries. 392 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: Now we want to say he's ready to go back 393 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: to be the one. 394 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: It is not the typical situation as you look for 395 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: in running back. Who who are we sleeping on? Who's 396 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: the running back sleeper? That's your guy that you have 397 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: in the pocket. 398 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Jonathan Brooks in Carolina, and I like, 399 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: I like what Carolina has done. I don't want to 400 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: overhype it too much, but I think Jonathan Brooks is 401 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: gonna step in there and win fully healthy and ready 402 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: to go. And right now the talk is that they 403 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: expect him to be ready, if not for camp, certainly 404 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: you know, by the early part of the season. I 405 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: think when he's ready, he's the number one running back there. 406 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: They went in on Miles Sanders last year, and I 407 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: think they realized midway through the season that wasn't gonna 408 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: work out. They gave that job to Chewba Hubbard. Jonathan 409 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: Brooks is better than Chuwba Hubbard. I think he's gonna 410 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: step in and be, you know, a the number one 411 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: running back early on, and if not, certainly by the 412 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: midpoint of the season, he's going to be that number 413 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: one running back in in Carolina by the end of 414 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: the year. 415 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 4: And so look, here's another guy that that I really like. 416 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: And this is it's an old, familiar name, but we're 417 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: all really excited about Derrick Henry in Baltimore this year. 418 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: It's it's very rare when everybody in fantasy wishes for 419 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: a thing to happen and that thing happens. Like we 420 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: were all saying, we, you know, Derek Henry should go 421 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: join the Ravens he'd be perfect for the Ravens, and 422 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: usually when we all want that, it never happens. This 423 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: time it happens, So we're super excited about you know 424 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: what he can be in that offense, in that backfield 425 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: with with with the Lamar Jackson, so you know, throwing 426 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: the fact that when they get down closed to your 427 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: thing in in Philly, we know they got the tush push. 428 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: In Buffalo, it's gonna be Josh Allen. The Ravens don't 429 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: use Lamar Jackson near the goal line in a similar fashion, 430 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: so when they get close, there's gonna turn around and 431 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: hand it to l tractor Sito. So I know it's 432 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: not assary a sleeper thing, but it's definitely a running 433 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: back spot that we are all. 434 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 4: Everybody's super fired up about it. 435 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: I will also caution you that when everybody in fantasy 436 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: is fired up about something, usually it somehow goes sideways. 437 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: So I'm crossing my fingers that this is not gonna 438 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: be the case this year. 439 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 440 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: No, it's it's funny in terms of being fired up 441 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: about fantasy, but the one position that gets everyone fired up. 442 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: We talk about quarterbacks, and we love running backs, but 443 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: there's nothing more exciting than to talk about your favorite 444 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 2: fantasy wide receiver point bananas when you need it down 445 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: the stretch, Let's talk about who are your top wide receivers. 446 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: Who are the guys that you're really bank going to 447 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: have big performances this year. 448 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: Well, again, this is another one where I think it's 449 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: great to go get the elites and like the guys 450 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: at the time. I think that the top three, you 451 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: can just pull the names out of a hat in 452 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: any order and nobody's gonna argue with you. So it's 453 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, it's Tyreek Hill, it's Jamar Chase. How you 454 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: rank them really is a matter of personal preference, and 455 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: nobody's really gonna fight with you there. But even that, 456 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm on Ross Saint Brown has proven 457 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 1: he is a top level wide receiver. 458 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 4: You know. 459 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: I feel still think Justin Jefferson in terms of talent, 460 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: is a high level guy. I just worry about the 461 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 1: quarterback situation, you know as much as I you know, 462 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: I want, in my heart of hearts and my Trojan 463 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: heart for. 464 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 4: Sam Donald to be great. 465 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: You know, at this point, we sort of seen this movie, 466 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: We kind of know how it is, and so I 467 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: think that that's the reason Jefferson's probably going is the 468 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: fourth or fifth wide receiver as opposed to being the 469 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: first wide receiver off the board. But because the position 470 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: is so deep, you can go two three rounds and 471 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: find yourself a quality receiver. The other problem, though, is 472 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: that everybody feels that way, so receivers are. 473 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 4: Flying off the board. 474 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: So if you don't go out and get yourself one 475 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,239 Speaker 1: maybe two in the first four rounds, you're gonna look 476 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: up and all of a sudden, it's going to be really, 477 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: really thin because everybody is just grabbing them wherever. 478 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so difficult, And look, you don't want to 479 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 2: operate like the Green Bay Packers where you're saying, hey man, 480 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: we just have a random yeah, I become the number 481 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 2: one receiver for the day. You want to have someone 482 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: that is established. But how hard is it to pick 483 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: like in these examples. So the Philadelphia Eagles, the Miami Dolphins, 484 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: even to a lesser degree, the Minnesota Vikings, they have 485 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: number one receivers, but that second guy is one bet. 486 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 2: When you're trying to make these decisions where you're saying 487 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: everyone is zick zach to get one, is there a 488 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: reasonable like a conversation that you could have that A 489 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: AJ Brown DeVonta Smith. 490 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: Maybe I go with DeVonta Smith because it's more likely 491 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 3: that I can get him in the pecking order. 492 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. 493 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: And that's the reason I probably have drafted in some 494 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: of like the early mock drafts and stuff I've done, 495 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: I've probably drafted Devonte Smith more than AJ Brown just 496 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: because I can wait a little bit later and get him. 497 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 4: I mean, you talk about A. J. Brown and DeVante 498 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 4: Smith being that way. 499 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: I think in some respects you can have a similar 500 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: argument with Poka Nakula and Cooper Cup with the Rams, 501 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: where you know, Pookah's that guy that's going in the 502 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: late first round. You can get Cooper Cup probably in 503 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: the third round right now. So you do have those yeah, 504 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's one thing when you have a team 505 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: with like two wide receivers that's kind of easy to 506 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: figure out. 507 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 4: The one thing that is hard. 508 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: And we're all going in circles trying to figure out 509 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: what to do with the Houston Tech wide receivers because 510 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: they already had Nico Collins in Tank Dell and those 511 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: guys were awesome last year. Then they go out and 512 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: they add Stephan Diggs, who, Okay, maybe he's not the 513 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: same guy he was a couple of years ago, but 514 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: he's still a really talented player. He's going to get 515 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: a whole lot of targets from CJ. Stroud, and so 516 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: we're all trying to figure out, you know, which one 517 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: is the best option. It's gonna be hard to figure 518 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: that out because you know there will be weeks that 519 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: are gonna be Collins weeks. They're gonna be Tanked Dell 520 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: weeks are gonna be Stephan Diggs weeks, and we may 521 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: not be able to predict which one is going to 522 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: be which, but all three potentially they're gonna be really 523 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: really good all year. But I think on a week 524 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: to week basis, having a Texans wide receiver is going 525 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: to be a really big headache for a lot of people. 526 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 527 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: No, It's funny in my time in like playing fancy football, 528 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: like I just love having clear lines, like clear lines 529 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,239 Speaker 2: where you know who's the number one, who's the number two, 530 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 2: who's the number three. 531 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: It's very similar. 532 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: I think the situation in LA when it comes to 533 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: the Rams. For as much as we love Pukinnakua and 534 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: they all gets muddied with Cooper Cup coming back, who 535 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: does Matthew Stafford see as the number one? And if 536 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 2: you had to decide between the two pass catches, which 537 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: go Cooper Cup, which go the cool. 538 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: So early on, I was going Cooper Cup just because 539 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: he was going a couple of rounds later, but I'm 540 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: starting to pivot to Pooka, uh really for no rhyme or. 541 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 4: Reason, just because I think he's younger. 542 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think I know he's younger than 543 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: than Cooper Cup is, and I think that maybe sort 544 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: of factors into it. But I do think in the end, 545 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have similar production. You know, at 546 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: some point you look at Cooper Cup and you know 547 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: he's getting a little bit older. He's over thirty, He's 548 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: had some injuries the last couple of years, so maybe 549 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: you factor that in a little bit. But again, I 550 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: think it's a situation where you know, those are the 551 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: two guys where the ball is going to be funneled mostly, 552 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: So I think either way, you're gonna be fine with 553 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: either one of those two guys. 554 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: All right, So, Marcus, So when we think about like 555 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 2: a little young wide receiver, we're gonna talk about the 556 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 2: rookies in the next episode. But if there was a 557 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 2: young wide receiver that you would take a dart on, 558 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 2: maybe just like an unheralded name, but is in a 559 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: really good situation where you think he can probably outplay 560 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: his draft status, Give me a name. 561 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: We everybody's getting really excited about Jamison Williams because, for one, 562 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: this is the first normal offseason he's had in a while, right, 563 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean, when he when he got drafted, he was injured, 564 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: he pretty much missed pretty much all of that that 565 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: first season. He's had suspensions to deal with. But everything 566 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: coming out of Detroit this offseason says that he is 567 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: really ready to take that next step, that he's working hard. 568 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell is thrown out a lot of praise about him, 569 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: which you know, Dan Campbell's not one to just necessily 570 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: throw around a ton of praise. So the fact that 571 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: he's had a lot of great things to say about 572 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: Jamison Williams has been really exciting. 573 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 4: That offense has looked great the last couple of years. 574 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the reason we love Aman Ross Saint Brown, 575 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: It's the reason we all loved Sam Laporta last year. 576 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: So if Jamison Williams really is starting to become the 577 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: player we thought he he could be coming out of college. 578 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: He definitely could outperform his ADP. I mean, he's getting 579 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: drafted right now in the double digit rounds and look 580 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: if he if he is that guy, he could definitely 581 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: outperform that. 582 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's funny because Amarra Saint Brown is the 583 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 2: clear number one, but there's so many intriguing options that 584 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: they have on that offense. You talked about Jamiir Gibbs 585 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 2: being someone that everyone should have an interest in h 586 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: when it comes to looking at what he can do. 587 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: From fran perspective, you have Jerry Golf who's got the 588 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 2: big money, who's throwing the ball all over the yard. 589 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: Jamison Williams certainly can be a guy that is a 590 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: productive playmaker. Ain't that knowying that Sam Laporta is the 591 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: second option on that squad? 592 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean so that is the concern though, 593 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: that maybe he's the third option at best. But again 594 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: it's sort of a risk reward thing. Like where you're 595 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: getting him, you're not risking much in terms of draft capital, 596 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: with the reward being that you know, if he becomes 597 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: a deep threat, or a big play guy in offense. 598 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: He could be one of those players where it doesn't 599 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: take a whole lot of catches for him to put 600 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: up a big fantasy number. If he can get you 601 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: two or three catches and maybe get you, you know, 602 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: eighty ninety yards and find his way into the end zone, 603 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: ends up being a really good day. 604 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 3: It does end up being a really, really good day. 605 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: And so we're gonna wrap up part one of the 606 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,959 Speaker 2: podcasts now put on part We're gonna talk about tight ends, 607 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: we can talk about rookies to watch, and we're also 608 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: gonna kind of maybe build the ultimate fantasy team. So 609 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: thanks for tuning in the Move to six podcast that 610 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: was part 611 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 3: One of our fantasy podcast Mark Scranny The next time.