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Speaker 2: Nice to be with you in the studio as always.

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Speaker 2: You just got back from the border, and I want

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Speaker 2: to get into this. It's not really shocking, but it's

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Speaker 2: very concerning now from a national security standpoint. How bad

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Speaker 2: has it gotten compared to what it was even just

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Speaker 2: last time you were there.

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Speaker 1: Well, it keeps getting worse and worse. So I was

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Speaker 1: and so the Senate was in session. I was in

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Speaker 1: and I flew down to McCallen Thursday night, and I

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Speaker 1: brought along with me four other Senators, John Cornyn, and

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Speaker 1: and Mike Lee and Pete Ricketts, and so the five

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Speaker 1: of us came down. We landed. The first thing we did,

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Speaker 1: we went straight from the airport to the midnight muster

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Speaker 1: of the Border patrol agents and there were about fifty

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Speaker 1: Border patrol agents gathered the musters where they sit and

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Speaker 1: talk right before they go out on duty. And we

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Speaker 1: had a good discussion with the border patrol agents. Really,

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Speaker 1: I just stood up and told them thank you. More

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. To tell them and I said

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Speaker 1: exactly this. I said, Listen, I travel all over Texas,

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Speaker 1: tell you something. So we did, each of us spoke

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Speaker 1: for Q and A, and we asked the border patrol agents, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what should we know that we don't know. One of

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Speaker 1: out new guidelines for pursuit of illegal aliens. This is

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Speaker 1: illegal aliens that are running, that are trying to get away.

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Speaker 1: And the guidelines you'd have to effectively call them guidelines

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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to pursue them. Just let them go,

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Speaker 1: They said, look, the cartels know this memo has gone out,

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Speaker 1: In the past year. It was written instruction basically that

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Speaker 1: So we did that. Then we went out on midnight patrol,

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Speaker 1: Their look answered it, and they basically just said it's everywhere,

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Speaker 1: this was a persistent problem, and they DNA tests them

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Speaker 1: And so there's a value to bring that child, to

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Speaker 3: Off her, and we're gonna DNA test.

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Speaker 1: We're going to DNA test you, and when we find

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Speaker 1: But Biden canceled the DNA tests, Like you want to

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Speaker 1: talk about one of the great scandals, these Democrats who

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Speaker 1: who prance around and say they're so compassionate. They no

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Speaker 1: I've never seen a Democrat give any reason, compassionate, rational

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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you DNA test it when you know.

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Speaker 3: Because you could accept the trafficking at that moment.

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Speaker 1: But they don't want to that. Their objective is to

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Speaker 3: Look, and this is every day, all day, twenty four

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Speaker 1: Now, in all likelihood, that little girl is going to

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Speaker 1: that was one day, in one hour. There's a reason

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Speaker 1: Do they see this? And they said no, and they

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Speaker 1: it if they've never seen it. What they do instead

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Speaker 1: that were from Moldova. The little girl was beautiful, blonde,

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Speaker 1: They had gone from Moldova to Holland, to South America,

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you that couple, it was evident they

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Speaker 1: of Patrol agents told us they will never tell you

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Speaker 1: what happened to them. That they're very disciplined, like if

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Speaker 1: they won't describe what They're too afraid of the cartels.

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Speaker 1: They're too afraid of what the cartels would do to

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Speaker 1: them that they won't describe what happened. But again, it

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Speaker 1: was obvious these people had gone through hell. And it

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Speaker 1: makes you angry because this is entirely preventable. And the

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Speaker 1: reporters Kareem John Pierre, We've talked about this a lot

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Speaker 1: on the pod stood up and said, well, people are

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Speaker 1: And by the way, release them means send them to

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Speaker 1: There was not a caretaker there when they busted it.

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Speaker 1: The stash houses are also where they will rape women. Again.

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Speaker 1: They will shake people down for more money. In that case,

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Speaker 1: can't you be even more efficient and like flying from

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Speaker 1: and fifty three migrants last year. For facilitating the rape

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Speaker 1: and sexual abuse of thousands of women and thousands of

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Speaker 1: little children. For one hundred thousand overdoses, including seventy percent

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Speaker 1: from Chinese fentanyl across the southern border. All of that

436
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Speaker 1: Alejandro Majorcus is responsible for. And he doesn't give a dam.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, you remember when I questioned him

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Speaker 1: in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee. I asked him

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Speaker 1: about the colored wristbands. He said he had no idea

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Speaker 1: what they worrer, he'd never seen them before. When I

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Speaker 1: was down there, I found several colored wristbands just laying

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Speaker 1: on the ground. It takes you about a minute to

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Speaker 1: do it. The wristbands. The colors correspond to how many

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Speaker 1: thousands of dollars they owe the cartels. They are modern

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Speaker 1: day leg irons. And that group we met, we met

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Speaker 1: a group of slaves and it's horrified. You feel like

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Speaker 1: you're back pre Civil war and you encounter slave traders.

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Speaker 2: People are gonna say, how did you know they're actually slaves?

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Speaker 2: You're making it up, you're exaggerating. I know the Left

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Speaker 2: is gonna say when you say you meet slaves, explain that.

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Speaker 1: When you talk to little girls and they say they're

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Speaker 1: going to some random too who they don't know his name,

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Speaker 1: they don't know who he is, they say, oh, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't know him coming, but I just have a number

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Speaker 1: to call.

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Speaker 3: You're in slavery.

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Speaker 1: You are in slavery. And it sounds harsh to say

458
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Speaker 1: Democrats don't care. But if you cared, you do something

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Speaker 1: about it. If Joe Biden cared, he could stop it.

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Speaker 1: If Alejandro Mayorks cared, he could stop it. If Democrats

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Speaker 1: senators cared, they could join us and trying to force

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden to stop it. But they don't. The Democrat

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Speaker 1: Senate has zero interest. Look two and a half years

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Speaker 1: of Biden being president, I have not seen one single

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Speaker 1: Democrat senator on judiciary question, one single witness about the slavery,

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Speaker 1: about the sexual assault, about the abuse of migrants by

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Speaker 1: the traffickers. Now they're all four made up stories. So

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Speaker 1: you remember there was that whole thing about border patrol

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Speaker 1: agents or whipping migrants. Yes, and it was a completely

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Speaker 1: made up lie where they focused on the reins of

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Speaker 1: the horse. By the way, we were riding those horses.

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Speaker 1: We have long reins that are used for riding the horse,

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Speaker 1: but they weren't. I mean, it was a total lie

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Speaker 1: that got Democrats very excited because they're full investigation.

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Speaker 3: Ye should be fired immediately.

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Speaker 1: But when it comes to the cartels, look at lunchtime,

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Speaker 1: we sat down with local community leaders. We sat down

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Speaker 1: with the mayor McCallan, who's a Republican, a good friend.

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Speaker 1: We sat down with the sheriff of Brooks County. Brooks

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Speaker 1: County is north and where Brooks County is there's a

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Speaker 1: checkpoint at FW Furious And so what happens is the

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Speaker 1: smugglers don't want to be caught at the checkpoint, so

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Speaker 1: they stop south of the checkpoint and they make all

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Speaker 1: the illegal immigrants get out and they go through Brooks

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Speaker 1: County to get around the checkpoint. And Brooks County is

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Speaker 1: a pretty rugged county. It's in the summer time, it's

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Speaker 1: brutally hot. There's not a lot of water there and

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Speaker 1: the number of deaths that they find. They just the

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00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: farmers and ranchers find dead bodies, one after the other

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Speaker 1: after the other after the other. There are emergency beacons

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Speaker 1: that they've installed that have writing for illegal immigrants. The

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Speaker 1: first language you see is Chinese. Wow, they have writing

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Speaker 1: in Chinese. They have writing in Arabic, and it's pushed this.

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Speaker 1: If you're in distress, the border patrol will come rescue you,

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00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: but they go off and the coyotes. If you're in distress,

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Speaker 1: they just abandon you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't care if you're a friendant lady.

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Speaker 1: If you're elderly, if you're a little kid, you will die.

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Speaker 1: The sheriff of Brooks County had brought a three ring

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Speaker 1: binder with about one hundred different cases of bodies they'd

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Speaker 1: found in Brooks County. Wow, and I sat there band

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Speaker 1: and I flipped through it one at a time. The

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Speaker 1: conditions of those bodies, I have to tell you, I

504
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: was physically ill seeing in the heat. People's face gets charred,

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00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: they get blown up and enlarged. Just the effects of

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00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: the weather are grotesque. There were multiple young women who

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Speaker 1: had died, and every one of them had their pants

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00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: open and pulled down, and it was clear they'd been

509
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: raped before. They died, one after the other after the other.

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Speaker 1: And I actually made a point, I said, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to go through this entire book. These are human beings.

512
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: I need to see what's happening. I get to say,

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Speaker 1: I don't know a reporter at CNN or MSNBC or

514
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: ABC or CBS or NBC, who goes through that book,

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00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: who covers that book, who tells the story. These are

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Speaker 1: the Biden body bags. These are the people who are

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Speaker 1: dying because of your policies.

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Speaker 2: Last question on the border, how concerned re border patrol

519
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: agents over the possibility of terrorists not possibility, the reality

520
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: that terrorists are coming across at a much higher rate

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Speaker 2: than we've seen over the last five years combined. We

522
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: talked about this on a previous verdict, but this is

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Speaker 2: the first time you've been down there since these new

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00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: numbers have been released that are saying there's a significant

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Speaker 2: increase of terrorists that are on the terrorists watch list

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Speaker 2: that we are catching.

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Speaker 3: The border does counting the ones that were not catching.

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Speaker 1: So look, they're very concerned. We talked about, particularly with

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Speaker 1: the war in Israel, Hamas and Hesbela specifically targeting coming

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Speaker 1: across the border. As we talked about in last week's podcast,

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Speaker 1: the San Diego Division of the Border Patrol instructed their

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Speaker 1: agents be on the lookout for people from Hamas and

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Speaker 1: Hesbela hiding and pretending that they're not in the Rio

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Speaker 1: Grand Valley. They said they had not encountered recently people

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Speaker 1: from Hamas and Hesbela, so in the last couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks that had not yet presented. They're worried about it.

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Speaker 1: They're watching for it now. It's worth noting if you're

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Speaker 1: a Hamas terrorist, you're not going to be in the

539
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: people that are turning themselves involuntarily. Sure, you're going to

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Speaker 1: be in the Godaways. And one of the real problem

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Speaker 1: is the volume is so great that it overwhelms the

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00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: Border Patrol agents, so that you have on any given

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Speaker 1: night no capacity to even chase the Godaways. And so

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Speaker 1: that evening muster was I was talking with Brandon Judd,

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Speaker 1: who's the head of the Border Patrol Union, a good friend.

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Speaker 1: He was with us, and he was saying, he said,

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00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: all right, that night, he said, typically that night there

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Speaker 1: would be about one hundred and seventy agents that are

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Speaker 1: available to go out on patrol. He said that night

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Speaker 1: there were thirty one that were available because all of

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00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: the rest were doing paperwork and processing and handling the

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Speaker 1: detention facility. So it should have been one hundred and

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00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: seventy some odd instead it was thirty one. That's part

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00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: of how the cartels overwhelm us is the bulk of

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00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: the manpower is not actually on the border securing it.

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Speaker 2: Their marsh is a great example. They're off planes now

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00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: processing at the border.

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00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: Yes, the exact same thing. And then so this group

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Speaker 1: that they encountered, So this group, there were several agents,

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Speaker 1: he said, Okay, they're thirty one that started at midnight

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Speaker 1: out on patrol. This one group, you've got twenty to

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Speaker 1: twenty five, mostly women and children. You have several agents

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Speaker 1: to go pick them up. You've got to detain them,

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Speaker 1: you've got to question them, you've got to process them.

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00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: He said, that group will take five to ten off

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Speaker 1: the field, so that means thirty one becomes twenty one.

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Speaker 1: By the way, where they were there was no transport bus,

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00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: so they had to load them in the back of

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Speaker 1: pickup trucks. All these kids in the back of pickup

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Speaker 1: trucks and you know what they told me. They said, okay,

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00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: this is against the rules. Yeah, but are they just

572
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: supposed to leave them here? What else are they supposed

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Speaker 1: to do. They don't have any vehicle to put him in,

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Speaker 1: so they put them in the back of the pickup

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Speaker 1: truck to take him in the processing center. And he said,

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Speaker 1: you know what if something happens, if that car gets

577
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Speaker 1: an erect, if a kid jumps out the back and

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00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: hurts himself, those agents will be disciplined or fired for

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Speaker 1: transporting them unsafely. And he said, now, there's no alternative

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Speaker 1: way to transport them. They could leave these children out here,

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Speaker 1: just say okay bye.

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Speaker 3: They could die.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason the Democrats don't come. There's a reason

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Speaker 1: CNN doesn't come. You cannot see this and spin it

585
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: and say, hey, this is great, this is perfectly okay.

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Speaker 2: Senator, I also want to bring in our guests. We've

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Speaker 2: talked a lot about kids, protecting kids. We also have

588
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: problems in this country where we have basically given our

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00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: kids over to the government and parents are trying to

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Speaker 2: get back in their kids' lives. Have been declared domestic

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Speaker 2: terrorists by our own government, which is shocking. A good

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Speaker 2: friend of the show, someone that you used to do

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Speaker 2: Verdict Plus with. People will know her from that. Liz

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Speaker 2: Wheeler has her own great show. She's got an incredible

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Speaker 2: new book out as well, and I know it was

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Speaker 2: important that we make sure we had her on Verdict.

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Speaker 1: Well, Liz, welcome back. Liz is my former co host

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Speaker 1: of Verdict. We did Verdict together. We traveled the country,

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Speaker 1: We went to college campuses together and dealt with young

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Speaker 1: leftists who had questions and wanted to be confronted with

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Speaker 1: the truth. And Liz does an amazing job on our

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Speaker 1: own show, on the Liz Wheeler Show, and she has

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Speaker 1: a brand new book, Hide Your Children, exposing the Marxists

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Speaker 1: behind the attack on American kids.

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Speaker 4: Liz, welcome back, Senator, Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Ben, good to have you here.

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Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about this book, why you

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Speaker 2: wanted to write it, and why so important, especially right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this book started as a question that I think

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Speaker 4: a lot of parents actually had the same question that

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Speaker 4: I had during COVID when we saw this increase in

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Speaker 4: attacks on our children. I mean, all parents had to

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00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 4: do is look over their kids shoulder on zoom school

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00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 4: and they'd see critical race theory and trans ideology, the

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Speaker 4: sixteen nineteen project, plus good old fashioned moral relativism just

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Speaker 4: thrown at their kids. And I understand that this isn't

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Speaker 4: a new thing, that our kids are the target of

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Speaker 4: the left, but it did seem to be escalating. So

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Speaker 4: I wondered, well, where is this coming from, Who's behind this,

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Speaker 4: what's behind this, what's their goal? So the purpose of

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Speaker 4: this book is I sought to find the answer to

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Speaker 4: that question, and what I found was both frightening and frustrating.

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Speaker 4: The frightening part is that the left has spent decades

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Speaker 4: trying to get to our children, and to do so

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00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 4: they have co opted They've captured what I call four

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Speaker 4: of the five major cultural institutions, so the media, that's

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00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 4: an obvious one, the education says sadly, a lot of

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Speaker 4: religious institutions, to the law, which has become evident in

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Speaker 4: the last couple of years. And now they've set their

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Speaker 4: sights on the nuclear family, particularly on children. This is

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Speaker 4: the frightening part. The frustrating part is if this attack

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Speaker 4: on our children isn't new, if it's been decades in

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Speaker 4: the making, why haven't we been able to stop this?

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Speaker 4: What has the Republican Party been doing for all of

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Speaker 4: these decades to fight back. And so what I do

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Speaker 4: in the book, the first half of the book is

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Speaker 4: I name the names of the people and the organizations

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Speaker 4: that are behind the capture of the institutions, behind the

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Speaker 4: attack on our kids. And the second half of the

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Speaker 4: book is a critique of the Republican Party. I offer

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Speaker 4: a solution that I will tell you is different than

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Speaker 4: what the Republican Party offers for how we can actually

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Speaker 4: start winning, how we can recapture our institutions, how we

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Speaker 4: can protect our kids and therefore our country.

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Speaker 1: All Right, so let's take those one at a time.

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Speaker 1: You said the first half of the book, you're naming names.

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Speaker 1: So who are the biggest names, Who are the individuals

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Speaker 1: most responsible for the relentless attack on our kids?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great question. So what I do in

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Speaker 4: the book is I make sure to differentiate between the

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Speaker 4: Marxists who conceived the ideas, many of whom are lung dead,

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Speaker 4: and the current Marxist, the modern Marxists that are alive

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Speaker 4: and well in our country today, who are propagating these

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Speaker 4: ideas on our children. And I'll give you an example

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Speaker 4: of one of each one of the modern Marxists who's

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Speaker 4: propagating an entirely destructive ideology in our children is a

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Speaker 4: woman by the name of Gail Rubin. Gail Rubin is

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Speaker 4: known as the founder or she wrote the founding document

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Speaker 4: of queer theory. Queer theory is a neo Marxist theory that,

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Speaker 4: unsurprising to most of your viewers, is what underpins the

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Speaker 4: transgender ideology. So these poisonous ideas that are being taught

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Speaker 4: to children in school right now, that boys can be girls,

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Speaker 4: girls can be boys. Gender is not connected to biological sex.

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Speaker 4: Everything's fluid. This is not just a random assortment of nonsense.

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Speaker 4: This is pulled directly from neo Marxist queer theory, which

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Speaker 4: was penned by Gail Rubin, who is alive and well

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Speaker 4: in our country today. And yet most people, maybe in

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Speaker 4: the past couple months, they've heard about her because I've

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Speaker 4: been talking so much about her. Most people have never

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Speaker 4: heard of this woman, even though she's having such a

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Speaker 4: direct and destructive impact on our children. That's the first example.

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Speaker 4: The second example I will give is a Marxist who

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Speaker 4: is long dead, and that's a Marxist, a Brazilian Marxist,

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Speaker 4: actually by the name of Pallo Friari. He was the

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Speaker 4: one who contended that teachers in school shouldn't teach children

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Speaker 4: facts and knowledge, he should teach them a worldview, how

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Speaker 4: to view the world, and he called this worldview critical consciousness.

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Speaker 4: What critical consciousness is really is just teaching children to

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Speaker 4: look at everything through a Marxist lens. And this idea

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Speaker 4: of critical consciousness is what exists in our public school

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Speaker 4: system today under the all encompassing, vague umbrella term of wokeness.

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Speaker 4: So I trace everything back to its origins and show

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Speaker 4: the manifestations of how it's impacting our kids in our

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Speaker 4: society in America today.

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Speaker 2: Liz, I want to ask you about moms specifically. I've

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Speaker 2: actually been inspired and I think TC and I and

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Speaker 2: we've been on the road, we've seen this. There are

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Speaker 2: a lot of moms have gotten off the bench and

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Speaker 2: are getting really involved with their kids and their kids

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Speaker 2: curriculum and what's having their schools and what they're being taught.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the biggest blessings I think of the

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Speaker 2: COVID lockdowns was moms got to see in the classroom

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Speaker 2: what was happening with their kids. I'm inspired by that,

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Speaker 2: and I think this is going to be something that

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Speaker 2: the liberals are going to have hell to pay now

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Speaker 2: with moms that are now involved. Is that part of

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Speaker 2: what you're seeing and inspiring you to write this book.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's incredible to see how many parents, moms and

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Speaker 4: dads who've had their eyes opened. I think as conservatives,

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Speaker 4: we're generally people of good faith. We generally like to

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Speaker 4: give other people the benefit of the doubt. We generally

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Speaker 4: see the good in humanity, and sometimes because of that,

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Speaker 4: it can be difficult to look at our political opposition

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Speaker 4: and label them for what they are. We'd rather say, oh,

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Speaker 4: you know what, this is a well intentioned, good faith

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Speaker 4: opposition who just has unwise practical solutions to problems that

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Speaker 4: we all admit our problems. That's how the Republican Party

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Speaker 4: actually has operated for the last fifty years. But I

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Speaker 4: think for the first time in many many parents' lives

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Speaker 4: during COVID they saw that, No, that's not true. Our

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Speaker 4: Democrat opposition are not well intentioned, well intentioned opposition who

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Speaker 4: want the best just ha but have bad ideas for

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Speaker 4: how to bring that about. They are in fact embracing

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Speaker 4: Neo Marxist, anti Christian anti Americans, sometimes anti human ideology,

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Speaker 4: and it's a really important step in fighting back against

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Speaker 4: this to be able to define what the other side is.

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Speaker 4: That's why I spent so much time doing that in

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Speaker 4: the first half of my book, because if we don't

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Speaker 4: understand the reality of this political enemy we face, we

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Speaker 4: won't fight well against it. And if we don't fight well,

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Speaker 4: we won't win. And I'm tired of not winning. I'm

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Speaker 4: ready to win. As I know everyone watching the show

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Speaker 4: is too.

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Speaker 1: Amen. All right, Liz, last question. You said the second

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Speaker 1: half of the book focuses on a critique of the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party and what we need to do better to

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Speaker 1: fight back. What does the Republican Party need to do

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Speaker 1: to stop this madness?

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Speaker 4: Honestly, this is the part of the book that I'm

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Speaker 4: proudest of, and I know it's the part that's ruffled

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Speaker 4: some feathers a little bit, but I stand by this

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent. So I'll give you an example of

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Speaker 4: one of the most interesting pieces of information that I

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Speaker 4: found in the course of researching this book. Our public

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Speaker 4: school system was not mandatory. Children were not compelled to

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Speaker 4: go to public school until you're eighteen fifty two. In

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Speaker 4: eighteen fifty two, the state of Massachusetts became the first

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Speaker 4: state to compel public education. And the reason why was

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Speaker 4: because there was an influx of immigrants to our country

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Speaker 4: at the time, particularly Catholic immigrants, and the Protestant politicians

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Speaker 4: in charge wanted to indoctrinate these immigrant children in American

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Speaker 4: values so that they would be loyal to America first

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Speaker 4: rather than the country of their birth, and in Protestant

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Speaker 4: doctrine because of the centuries long battle between Protestants and Catholics,

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Speaker 4: and I realized that our institutions were never intended to

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Speaker 4: be neutral institutions. Our school system was never intended to

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Speaker 4: simply teach reading, writing, and arithmetic and otherwise be value neutral.

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Speaker 4: We as conservatives and the Republican Party, do not harness

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Speaker 4: these institutions to teach children our values. What's going to

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Speaker 4: happen is the left is going to swoop in and

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Speaker 4: teach their own. The Republican Party has fallen for the

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Speaker 4: false idea of tolerance and neutrality which doesn't exist. And

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Speaker 4: perhaps the philosophical reason for this is because they misdefine

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Speaker 4: the word liberty. They define liberty as simply the maximum

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Speaker 4: amount of individual freedom possible in a civil society, when

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Speaker 4: really our government was formed around the idea that liberty

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Speaker 4: is the means to something greater, that there's a moral

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Speaker 4: the thing that is greater is a moral thing, and

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Speaker 4: that our society, a flourishing society, is intended to try

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Speaker 4: to attain that. And Republicans have gotten very shy of

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Speaker 4: bringing religion or morals or anything of that nature into

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Speaker 4: our politics, and it's been to our detriment. We wouldn't

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Speaker 4: be in the chaos, the cultural chaos that we exist

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Speaker 4: and now if Republicans had not surrendered both institutions the

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Speaker 4: name of neutrality and morality and virtue in the name

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Speaker 4: of libertarianism to the left a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: List.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations on the new book, Grab It for your kids,

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Speaker 2: is out now exposing the Marxists behind the attack on

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Speaker 2: America's kids.

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