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Speaker 1: it ours. Welcome to the Urban Meyer Show Show. Former

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Speaker 1: Jaguars news with the head coach. The Urban Meyers Show

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyers Show. JP Shadrick, Jeff Logaman. Urban Meyer not

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Speaker 1: we had some scheduled changes. Coach Meyer and the staff

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Speaker 1: our conversation with Urban yesterday to run today. Unfortunately, we

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Speaker 1: so we'll hear from Urban a good bit in this

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Speaker 1: let's look back at the San Francisco game. A bad start.

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Speaker 1: and head coach Urban Meyer, of course Monday on the struggle,

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Speaker 1: And we're not getting that right now. And so um yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Loguman joining us. Now, good afternoon to you lot,

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Yeah, unfortunately we don't get Urban in person today,

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Speaker 1: You're you're very right or that Hey, we'll come back

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Speaker 1: John and uh, that's one that I posed our staff constantly,

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Speaker 1: My apologies, Irvan. That's of course, head coach Urban Meyer.

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Speaker 1: This is the Urban Meyers Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: JP Shadrick, Jeff Lagman. As we mentioned, earlier. Well, the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. I mean, he's got the junk in the

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Speaker 1: trunk and thick and he's you know, he's got that

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Speaker 1: kind of that body type. But he looks kind of

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Speaker 1: like a like a running back a little bit. And

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Speaker 1: uh and he's a good football player nonetheless, and uh,

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Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm Kyle Shanahan, I absolutely try to

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Speaker 1: find all kinds of creative waves to get him the

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Speaker 1: ball because he's a he's an elite player Jaguars defense.

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Speaker 1: So I think the general point is that they were

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Speaker 1: on the field a lot. They had some third down

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Speaker 1: penalty mistakes, there was an offside, an ejection, injuries, injury

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Speaker 1: stuff happened, you know, but on the opening drive of

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Speaker 1: the game, by the way, just real quick, let me

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Speaker 1: just coming on that ejection. If if ray Shawn Jenkins, Okay,

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Speaker 1: a couple towny pen many penalties do you have this year?

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Speaker 1: Like when it comes to that he total on the

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Speaker 1: season as a whole, he has six whole penalties. There

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Speaker 1: are two tawning calls and unnecessary roughness was back in

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Speaker 1: week one, and then this ejection, So four of his

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Speaker 1: six are kind of extracurricular related. Okay for four extracurricular deals,

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Speaker 1: and in my opinion, conversation should go. Okay, Rayshawn, love you,

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Speaker 1: love the way you give us everything you got, Appreciate

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Speaker 1: the leadership ability that you have, and love the edge

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Speaker 1: because edge is a good thing. But you can't go

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Speaker 1: over that edge and you did again. If you do

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Speaker 1: it again, then the sea's coming off? Would that not

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Speaker 1: be fair? I mean, yeah, all right? I mean is

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Speaker 1: that what you want representing the planet. Fournette leaves the

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Speaker 1: bench to go insert himself into a fight in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: He should have lost the sea because he wasn't even

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Speaker 1: on the field. It wasn't even an emotional moment. He

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Speaker 1: should have lost his sea off of his chest for that.

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Speaker 1: And I think in this instance, you you have a

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Speaker 1: conversation with the player and say, look, you know this

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Speaker 1: is we appreciate your leadership, but here's the deal. You

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Speaker 1: hurt the team, and it's happened before. So here here's

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Speaker 1: the thing if you if it happens again, the sea's

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Speaker 1: gotta go. That's fair. There's got to be accountability anyway,

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Speaker 1: just wanted to make a comment on that. So there's that. Um,

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Speaker 1: so let's our conversation. We've got plenty of show ahead.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll hear from Rbin Meyer from today. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He had a press conference right before we went on

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Speaker 1: here locally here in Jacksonville today and we'll get some

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Speaker 1: of the highlights of that coming up. It's the Urban

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Speaker 1: Meyers Show on Jaguars Radio. Yeah. I felt like once again,

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Speaker 1: I felt, you know, we we you know, the beginning

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Speaker 1: season was awful, but then against the Cardinals, you started

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Speaker 1: seeing some good stuff. And then as you started seeing

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Speaker 1: a nice trajectory, and you know, we random ball, we're

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Speaker 1: up on. We made a couple of stakes against the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: and then you know, I just felt good about the

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Speaker 1: trajectory and that changed about a month ago. That's Urban

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Speaker 1: Meyer today in his press conference and welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Urban Meyers Show on the Jaguars Radio Network JP Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Lagaman. Usually we have the head coach in the

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Speaker 1: first half hour and if you've just joined us, but

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Speaker 1: we didn't this time because we recorded Urban yesterday. We

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Speaker 1: lost the recording technical issues here in the building. We

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Speaker 1: apologize for that. Well here throughout the next half hour

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Speaker 1: from Urban earlier today as we get ready for the

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving holiday coming up, the final preparations tomorrow and then

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Speaker 1: Friday Saturday walk through for the Atlanta Falcons in week

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Speaker 1: number twelve year at t I A. Bank Field, and

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Speaker 1: that is the thing you know here in Urban say

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Speaker 1: that the offense was trending up. It felt like earlier

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Speaker 1: in the season they had you know, second half lead

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Speaker 1: on the Cardinals and a couple of teams and couldn't

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Speaker 1: finish the job in those games. And now it's gone

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Speaker 1: the exact other way. They can't even get close to

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Speaker 1: having a leader, barely are getting in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: And a crazy thing is that this downward trend, the

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Speaker 1: defense has kind of bounced back, and so you would

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Speaker 1: think it would be easier to maintain the trend because

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Speaker 1: of the defensive improvement, But the offense has just really

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Speaker 1: gone uh in a southward direction very quickly, and it's

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Speaker 1: got a change. And I think part part of the

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Speaker 1: reason why they were headed in the right trajectory is

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Speaker 1: that you know, you can go back. If you do,

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Speaker 1: you can you pull up the the rushing numbers from

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Speaker 1: the games that he's referring to, which if you go

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Speaker 1: back and you look at the games that he's talking about,

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about Arizona, Cincinnati, Tennessee in Miami. That's

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Speaker 1: the four game stretch I want to look at, and

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Speaker 1: I think the conversation needs to be about what were

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Speaker 1: the rushing numbers in those games? All right, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you exactly right now, starting with Arizona, right, one hundred

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Speaker 1: fifty nine yards rushing. Okay, next week at Cincinnati one

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Speaker 1: d thirty nine yards rushing. Tennessee game yards rushing Okay,

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Speaker 1: and then you go back in the eighties, a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks seventy nine they had for Miami, Miami, they

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Speaker 1: were eighty four yards. Okay, not a lot, but Trevor

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Speaker 1: was good. Uh, Trevor's numbers in those four games, you got,

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Speaker 1: you got Trevor's numbers in those four games doing just

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Speaker 1: a moment because you know, look a lot of times

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Speaker 1: when you have a real strong running game, it makes

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Speaker 1: it a hell of a lot easier on the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Ready for them. Yeah, Arizona, he had a sixty eight

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Speaker 1: point one rating, four two picks at Cincinnati nine point five,

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Speaker 1: didn't throw a touchdown, And I was going to bring

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Speaker 1: up that's the game that they kind of went back

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Speaker 1: to some of the r p O stuff because it

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Speaker 1: wasn't great prior to that game. The Arizona game was

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a struggle for Trevory. He's thrown

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Speaker 1: a lot of interceptions and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: they go, uh to Cincinnati, and then they start blending

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Speaker 1: some of these college type plays back in and he

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Speaker 1: looked like he was comfortable, and look, you're exposing to

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Speaker 1: him when you do those kind of things. The question

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Speaker 1: I think will be this week is do you go

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Speaker 1: back and do some of the things that you did

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Speaker 1: in the Cincinnati game to get a comfort level back.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know the answer to that, but it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be something that's interesting to watch. Okay, after Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: go to Tennessee trying to see and I a two

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Speaker 1: point one rating, pretty good, good day, pretty good, pretty

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Speaker 1: good Miami game, ninety three point four, trending upward. Right,

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Speaker 1: everything you're feeling good about. Okay, you got first overall

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Speaker 1: picking you like it, and then the next three weeks

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Speaker 1: are below rating rating, sixty nine rating and then below

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Speaker 1: sixty completion percentage and every game was a below seventy

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Speaker 1: rating for him over the next three games, Yeah, not

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Speaker 1: not what you want. And then the rating I think

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Speaker 1: was a little bit of over that this pass game,

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Speaker 1: but you just weren't able to string enough place together

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Speaker 1: as an offense to really say, Okay, Trevor had a

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Speaker 1: really good game. And I know that Urban said he

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Speaker 1: had a good game, but I mean it wasn't a

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Speaker 1: bad game. I think would be a better way to

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Speaker 1: put it. Well, come back in a moment more from

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Speaker 1: urban Meyer today, How do you keep Trevor Lawrence Confident

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Speaker 1: and Ready, and then a discussion about Daryl Bevil from

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Speaker 1: today's press conference as well, the Jaguars offensive coordinator. This

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Speaker 1: is the Urban Meyers Show on Jaguars Radio. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: The Urban Meyers Show continues along the Jaguars Radio network. Well.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons I hired Vivian and also Bran Schockenheimer.

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Speaker 1: They did it with Russell Wilson. You know they weren't

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Speaker 1: the you know, resistive because we met for a long time,

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Speaker 1: and um, I watched the film and I saw what

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Speaker 1: they did with Russell as far as you know, Bray

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Speaker 1: contain r p O, you know, the zone read type stuff.

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Speaker 1: They did that with Russell, So, um, you know something.

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Speaker 1: There's a fine line too about the you know, preparing

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Speaker 1: a quarterback for a long career and then also keeping

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Speaker 1: him out of harm's way. And those are conversations we

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Speaker 1: have daily. That is Urban Meyer today and is press

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Speaker 1: conference and welcome back to the Urban Meyers Joe J. P.

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Speaker 1: Shadrick with Jeff Lockman. The Jaguars coming off to San

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Speaker 1: Francisco Lass heading in to a Week twelve matchup this

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Speaker 1: Sunday against the Atlanta Falcons. A lot of conversation this week,

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Speaker 1: obviously about the Jags offense. They've scored forty three points

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Speaker 1: in four weeks, not in each of the four weeks,

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Speaker 1: in four weeks total, how many? How many? How many

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Speaker 1: meaningful points? Three last week? But they were down three

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Speaker 1: touchdown or three scores when that happened. Um, that might

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Speaker 1: not even count. I wouldn't even count that. No, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't count seven. Um certainly not the touchdown because it

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Speaker 1: was garbage time, but the field goal of seventeen nothing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I mean just overall, I mean, it would be

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Speaker 1: interested to go back and say, Okay, you went. You're like, like,

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Speaker 1: if if the game is tight, you know how many

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Speaker 1: points like in Seattle? How many points did you score

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Speaker 1: in Seattle? That we're meaningful? Right? And they avoided the

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Speaker 1: shut out the end of the game. I mean, but

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Speaker 1: do you really consider that, you know, No, I don't

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Speaker 1: a great score. No, I mean, I mean, and that's

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Speaker 1: what I think. You know that this team is struggling.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously when you look at the numbers, but

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Speaker 1: then if you actually if you try to break it

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Speaker 1: down a little bit further and you look at, Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: how many meaningful points have they scored in the last

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Speaker 1: four games. It it's a little bit even more concerning

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Speaker 1: than just saying, well, it's forty three points in four games.

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Speaker 1: I mean how many? How many meaningful points? Not a

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Speaker 1: whole lot. Got to be better, Gotta be better. And

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Speaker 1: and that's why when he Urban was just talking about,

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Speaker 1: you know the reason he hired Bevil and Shoddy, which

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Speaker 1: is Brian Schottenheimer, who was a quarterbacks coach, passing game coordinator,

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Speaker 1: and you talked to uh, those guys and they were

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Speaker 1: and the reason he talked about why he hired them

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Speaker 1: was because that they worked some of that stuff with

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, and it was the read option stuff and

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Speaker 1: that's what Trevor ran when he was at Clemson. And

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Speaker 1: what we were talking about before the break was that

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati game was the game that you kind of

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Speaker 1: saw a little bit more of that type of flavor

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Speaker 1: with the offense. But when you do more of that

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Speaker 1: type of flavor, you also expose the quarterback to more

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Speaker 1: hits and more potential injury. And that's where Urbans talking

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Speaker 1: about you're trying to achieve a bounce because you want

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Speaker 1: to end up making sure that the quarterback stays healthy

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Speaker 1: and long term, are you going to have your quarterback

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Speaker 1: running read options stuff when he's in your six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, fifteen, whatever,

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Speaker 1: And that's that's the hope. I mean that he's going

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Speaker 1: to be your quarterback for you know, decade and a half,

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Speaker 1: two decades, and you don't want to get get him

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Speaker 1: crushed in his first year because well, we're struggling and

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Speaker 1: we gotta make sure that we save our our own

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Speaker 1: face and do better with the offense because we're not

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Speaker 1: doing very well. Let's go ahead and put our quarterback

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Speaker 1: at risk. No, let's hear a short comment today of

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Speaker 1: Urban discussing the possibility of more R P O of

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Speaker 1: the offense. Yeah, we can, and those conversations have been had,

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Speaker 1: you know, do what he does well, those are conversations

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Speaker 1: we're having now, still having him. That's all you really

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Speaker 1: got to say about it. Today. Another conversation about how

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Speaker 1: do you keep Trevor's confidence now if things aren't going well.

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Speaker 1: I remind them their professionals were all professionals. You've got

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Speaker 1: a job to do, go out and do it, and uh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna try to build this thing to be uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, the vision hasn't changed here that what we

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Speaker 1: expect this place to be and go out and beat

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Speaker 1: the falcons. That's what we're doing. And finally some confidence

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Speaker 1: in the parts they do have on offense and we

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Speaker 1: still have good players. You'll never hear me say that

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Speaker 1: the obvious that the three fast guys that you know

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Speaker 1: all legitimate fast we but we have, we have all

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Speaker 1: we need. We just have to be creative in the

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Speaker 1: game planning and make some place. That's urban Meyer today

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Speaker 1: from his press conference, and hey, they have it. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna roll with what they have and try to figure

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Speaker 1: it out a different way. Well that's all you do,

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Speaker 1: all you can do right at this point. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: uh and you know, and one other thing too, is that, Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's say last two weeks you've seen a lot of

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Speaker 1: man coverage. Well, the foul Cans do something similar with

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Speaker 1: deem Ps. You obviously need to have a little bit

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Speaker 1: of history, which I'm sure there's a book on DMPs.

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Speaker 1: And to give you an example, if if DMPs is

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Speaker 1: a guy that runs a lot of man courage, okay,

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Speaker 1: well you might want to have have some routes to

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Speaker 1: where you're you have man beaters, you know, where you

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Speaker 1: got rubs and washes and guys crossing on the field

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Speaker 1: where they're there, you know, the traffic is disrupting the

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Speaker 1: coverage and you get open receivers. So there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of different things that you can do from a from

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Speaker 1: a play caller standpoint that will be fit to whether

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Speaker 1: you're seeing man or whether you're seeing zone. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's gonna be something that as the as an

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, you want to make sure that you're on

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Speaker 1: point and when I say on point, that you have

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Speaker 1: the calls that give you the best chance of success

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Speaker 1: for that particular defense. We'll come back a little more

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Speaker 1: from Urban Ahead today as the Jaguars prep for the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons. This is the Urban Meyers Show on the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Radio Network. I think I think we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: okay there. It's stay to day. He's got an ac

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Speaker 1: spring that's nothing major and then shacks stay today. Um,

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Speaker 1: Lyles is good. Cam Robinson's was good to code out

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Speaker 1: and good at the good news on him. I think

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Speaker 1: we got him back for this one, which we need him.

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Speaker 1: This returner we're facing that's Irban Meyer earlier today at

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Speaker 1: first person who's talking about was Tyson Campbell on the shoulders,

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Speaker 1: So that's good news. The last guy that he was

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Speaker 1: talking about coming back for the return game, uh, the

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Speaker 1: code of Allen Because they're talking about covering the returning game,

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Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. There's another question who

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have returning kicks and punts. Now, I mean

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a great question. Clay Brooks could handle it.

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Speaker 1: He's done some of that before. In fact, claybrook Clay

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Speaker 1: Brooks was drafted last year mainly as a returner. I

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Speaker 1: mean having him play corner was really an afterthought. He

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Speaker 1: was drafted for his return ability. So yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I would think that he would go into that role

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Speaker 1: the Tyson Campbell. A C sprain can be incredibly painful,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know how they handle it these days,

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Speaker 1: but back in the day, I mean, it wasn't like

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Speaker 1: a big deal. You just get you shoot it up,

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Speaker 1: you know, you in sort of needle into that into

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Speaker 1: that a C space and and do a painkilling injection

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Speaker 1: and then you rock and roll, you know. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's just how it used to be. How things are

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Speaker 1: a little bit different now. I don't know if they

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Speaker 1: even allow that type of procedure to happen, But you know, Tyd.

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Speaker 1: The one thing about Tyson, I like the way he's

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Speaker 1: been playing. I think he's gotten gotten dramatically better. Gosh,

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Speaker 1: you had a pretty rough go of it there against Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Seattle was kind of a rough go of it too,

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Speaker 1: and I thought he's gotten better. So it was good

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Speaker 1: to see him improve, and I want to see him

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Speaker 1: continue to improve. I like the way he plays. He

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Speaker 1: plays hard and he finishes, and he's got great length,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's adjusted the way that he plays

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Speaker 1: the ball now, which is significant and it's made him

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Speaker 1: more effective. When I say he's changed the way that

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Speaker 1: he plays the ball, when he when a lot of

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Speaker 1: defensive backs when they cover a wide receiver, if the

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Speaker 1: ball quarterbacks back behind me here this way, that would

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Speaker 1: be to your left, okay, and I'm running down the

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Speaker 1: field as a corner, my eyes are not on the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You're running with the wide receiver. Defensive backs, a lot

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Speaker 1: of them, what they do is at the last second,

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Speaker 1: when they realized that the ball is coming, they turn

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Speaker 1: around to play the ball. That's where Tyson's gotten into trouble,

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Speaker 1: and I've noticed a change and what he has done.

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Speaker 1: Instead of turning around to find the ball, he's kept

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Speaker 1: his attention on the wide receiver and then been a

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Speaker 1: reaction where he tries to bust the ball up out

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Speaker 1: of the out of the receiver's hands, sees the receiver

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Speaker 1: looking at it and putting his hands up and just

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Speaker 1: hit the hands or whatever. But he's not trying to

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Speaker 1: get his head back to the ball. And that's fine

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Speaker 1: because where he's gotten in trouble is trying to get

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Speaker 1: the head back and then make a play on the

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Speaker 1: ball and then it's not happening, and that you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of interceptions that way, but you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a whole lot of a lot more in

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Speaker 1: completions with him playing at that fashion instead of the

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Speaker 1: old way that he played it. So I like the

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Speaker 1: way he's made that adjustment, and now hopefully he can

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Speaker 1: can learn to get his head back around the ball

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Speaker 1: and then maybe also some zone situations where he's got

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Speaker 1: his eyes back to the quarterback where he then can

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Speaker 1: utilize his ball skills that he does have if he

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Speaker 1: can find the ball. So maybe he can get some

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Speaker 1: interceptions that way, but in man coverage, I like the

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Speaker 1: way he's made the adjustment. We'll take a time out

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Speaker 1: and I get some final thoughts from Urban Meyer today

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Speaker 1: in his press conference. This is the Urban Meyers Show

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Speaker 1: on Jaguars Radio. Wow, welcome back. The Urban Meyers Show

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Speaker 1: continues along the Jaguars Radio network. Feel our staff's got

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Speaker 1: to do a good job, a little bit of creativity,

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Speaker 1: which we feel we haven't done. Um, I got to

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Speaker 1: get the ball in the hands of the guys at

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Speaker 1: the score and uh, we have to do that. That's

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer today. Welcome back to the Urban Myers Joe

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Speaker 1: Coach Meyer had a press conference today. They moved the

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Speaker 1: schedule around Thanksgiving coming up, so the players left Thursday

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Speaker 1: off and staff and so they're practicing today and tomorrow

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Speaker 1: and then Friday to get ready for the Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 1: in week twelve. The creativity of the offensive game plan,

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Speaker 1: the comment there and Urban also today talking about the

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Speaker 1: guys are pulling off from everywhere to come play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've always heard the stories and we're in it now.

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Speaker 1: You know we're in it with injuries. Uh where you're

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Speaker 1: you know, pulling guys off the street. Or you know,

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Speaker 1: I was sitting Trent's office every morning and we watched Phil.

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Speaker 1: Where's this guy he's on the street. What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: He's on the street. He's not a physical on the street,

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Speaker 1: but he's he's actually on a plane here right now. Okay,

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Speaker 1: go a little learning curve for Urban. And that's the

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Speaker 1: way it is. I mean, it's a season of attrition

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Speaker 1: and guys get hurt in the league all the time.

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Speaker 1: You gotta go have a plan in place to bring

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Speaker 1: somebody else in to field the spot. A little different

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Speaker 1: than having back to back to back top ten recruiting

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Speaker 1: classes and you just don't pull another jar off the shelf. Hey, freshman,

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Speaker 1: you want some time to come play five star? Come

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Speaker 1: on in. I mean, if you like, For example, you

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Speaker 1: looked at running backs that they had at Ohio State

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Speaker 1: through the years of Urban Meyer, and it's Carlos Hide,

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Speaker 1: it's Ezekiel Elliott. I mean, it's just it's just, you know,

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Speaker 1: the defensive ends for one Bossa to the next Bossa

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Speaker 1: to Chase Young. I mean, are you kidding me? Wide

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Speaker 1: receivers are the same ways and they have had at all.

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Speaker 1: That's what makes I think the NFL I mean just

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest challenges that there is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's the greatest challenge in football because you just you

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Speaker 1: can't go out and just recruit a football team that

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Speaker 1: is superior to the ones you're gonna be playing next year.

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't work that way. I mean, that's a

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Speaker 1: it's a league that is built for everybody to have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity at improving and and unfortunately it doesn't always

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Speaker 1: work for everybody, you know. I mean, this team has

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Speaker 1: been struggling for for quite some time. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: take out of it, it's been a struggle for this

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Speaker 1: football team. And the way the league is built, you know,

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Speaker 1: you get a higher draft pick and you have the

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Speaker 1: tools to get better, and it's it's it's a challenge,

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Speaker 1: but I mean there's it's hard because you have to

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Speaker 1: manage the football team and in a way that's very demanding,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's a it's a it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: tough way. It's a tough way to do it, and

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Speaker 1: that's the way it is in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: It's not easy. If it was easy, everybody would do it.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's why when you look at a

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Speaker 1: guy like Bill Belichick, who has been able to do

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Speaker 1: it with Tom Brady and then now without Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: this year and year in a year out. The consistency

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Speaker 1: that he's been able to put to that organization, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: It is truly amazing. They don't pay him enough money.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you that nobody knows what he's getting paid.

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Speaker 1: Nobody does. But what do you think he makes you get?

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Speaker 1: If you were the owner of an NFL team? Robert

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Speaker 1: Kraft probably just gave him the checkbook and said, here,

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Speaker 1: write what you'd like. What would you pay him if

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Speaker 1: you owned an NFL team? Won't mean a share of ownership?

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Speaker 1: Maybe is that allowed? I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe why not? I mean, is he not

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Speaker 1: worth twenty million? If you're paying players, if your franchise

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Speaker 1: quarterback is getting paid. You know, a lot of franchise

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks are making up to forty million, wouldn't Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: be worth twenty Yeah? There at least. It's just it's

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Speaker 1: just interesting. I mean, that's you know, because he's been

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Speaker 1: he's been a great coach for a long period of time.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars get the Falcons this Sunday one o'clock kickoff time

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Speaker 1: at t I A A. Bank Field, the Falcons at

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Speaker 1: four and six, the Jaguars at two and eight. Hope

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Speaker 1: to see you here. Logs, Happy Thanksgiving, Yeah, Joe Fortunato,

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Speaker 1: Brent Reaber, our entire crew. Thank you for watching online

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Speaker 1: and listening as the Jaguars get ready for week number twelve.

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Speaker 1: This has been the Urban Meyer Show on the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Radio Network.