1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: It is a Thursday here in Pittsburgh. A beautiful Thursday too. 5 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Just what I was feeling, like the difference between yesterday 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: and today. Yeah, in what today's forecast or tomorrow's forecast 7 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: is for, like just rain and just didn't. I don't 8 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: look ahead. I was just living in the moment and 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: enjoying it. Thanks for squashing it. Okay, there you haven't. 10 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll be able to wear shorts tomorrow. 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: I probably will anyway, probably when we're convened again tomorrow. 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: You do have your yettie shirt on that today? Yeah. 13 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: My kids make fun on my yetie shirtcause I always 14 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: walk around with the yettie. He's like, are you promoting 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: your cup that we would always have around the house. 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm just yet, I don't know it's comfortable. Yeah. Anyways. 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: The Steelers are getting through practice today, Ben Roethlisberger returning 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: to a full practice, as did Chase Claypool, coming back 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: from the hamstring issue. UM Limited we're Melvin Ingram. And 20 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: then Eric Ebraun showed up on the injury report today 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: with a little hamstring issue. We'll see what that means. 22 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: But those are the only two guys who are even limited. 23 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: Ingram has a groin injury. Uh, that's to me. The 24 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: people like this whole The Steelers are trading Melvin Ingram. 25 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: That's that's the news of the day. You can't trade 26 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: somebody who's hurt if they get pass a physical physical 27 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: And supposedly Kansas City is interested. And here's what happened. 28 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: Kansas City gets on the phone. They need a guy, 29 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: they need a guy. They call the Steelers. They say, hey, 30 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: we might be interested in trading for Melvin Ingram. The 31 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: Steelers aren't going to trade Melvin Ingram. I don't think 32 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: they have any intentions of a team they got play 33 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: later this year, right, or a competitive guys getting the 34 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: postseason or anything like that. Now, that doesn't make a 35 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: lot of sense. And frankly, you're not gonna get a 36 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: great pick. I mean, folks, it's not like I get 37 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: it the chief second rounder. I mean, you're gonna get 38 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: a six or a fifth or something like that, because right, 39 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: I mean, it's contracts up. I'd rather use them for 40 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: the year. It's probably a conditional yeah, that makes sense, 41 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: Probably a conditional six or seven based on playing time. 42 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: You're just not going to do that. I mean, if 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm the Chiefs, I do that in a heartbeat. So 44 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: that the originally end Rappaport report on that was that, 45 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: well the Steelers are they're they're fielding phone calls? About that? Well, 46 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: no kidding, you know, I mean that's a very vague term. 47 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: The phone rings, you pick it up, you're fielding phones, right, 48 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: I mean I always wonder does that all it really works? 49 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: Do you actually like call Kevin or is he just 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: like sending an email out or a text or like, 51 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, how do how does the communication actually start? 52 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: You know, you have your scout, your area scout on that, 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: and you know who you're pro guy, pro personnel, guys 54 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: called the other teams pro personnel. That's probably more likely 55 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: you're you're not quite as busy. Hey, any chance we're 56 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: interested in this guy or this guy if see if 57 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh wants to you know, yeah, it would be interested 58 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: in dealing him. I don't see it happening. I don't 59 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: see it happening. Either I mean as likely and I'm 60 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: not trying to start rumors is some of my one ebron. 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I would think those are the two guys 62 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: if if the Steelers were to sell a player, they 63 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: would be the only will be much more likely in 64 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: my eyes. Well, the rest of the season would go 65 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: much smoother without him. You've got you've already you've got 66 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: Friar Muth who's already out snapping him countries countries you know, 67 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: can play. And we both like Kevin Raider. He's still available, 68 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: yeah right right, so yeah, okay, and I can see 69 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: somebody trying to add some kind of receiving weapon, but 70 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: you know you're not gonna get a ton for him 71 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: in return either. Now you're probably better off just living 72 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: with or not living with, you know, utilizing both of 73 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: them and try to win football games. But overall, not 74 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: a bad in your report for the Steelers. No, it's 75 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: about as good as its been since opening day. Uh, 76 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: you know what's gonna be interesting. We still haven't gotten 77 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: one out of Cleveland. But if you look at their 78 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: injury report for me yesterday, it's still littered. Even with 79 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: a long week. You think that team players last week 80 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: on the injury report, and that didn't include the two 81 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: guys that they placed on on injured reserve, which was 82 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: Hunt gok Okay okay, saying, really twenty one injuries for guy. 83 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,559 Speaker 1: Yeah this week they're still uh well into double digits again. 84 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: This is from yesterday. Clowney didn't practice. He's got ankle 85 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: growing and knee right basically the entire I don't know 86 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: if it's all in the same leg or if it's 87 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: a different you know, who knows, but that still seems 88 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: like a lot. It seems to be a lot. Malik 89 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: Jackson did not practice with an ankle injury. Plays a 90 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: lot for them. I mean they don't use much of 91 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: a defensive line rotation. I mean a couple of guys 92 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: coming off the bench and Garrett and Clowney will go 93 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: inside at times. But Malik and Malik play a lot 94 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: of defensive tackle for them, So that would be a big, 95 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: big deal. H Jarvis Slander with that knee injury, did 96 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: not practice. He looked like to shell ut himself on Thursday. 97 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: It looked pretty you know when he came off the 98 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: field too. If you remember in that game he was slimping. Yeah, absolutely, 99 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: without question. Yeah, I have a hard time believing he's 100 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: if he dresses or not. Donovan People's Jones with a 101 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: groin injury that he suffered in warmups during that game 102 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: last week, right and did not play, did not play, 103 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: he's still out. He's in a way. I won't say 104 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: he's their best receiver, but he's a five star recruit 105 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: that's big and fast, and he has one reception for 106 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: like seventy yards on a hail mary that kind of 107 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: screw up his stats a little bit. But he's kind 108 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: of threatening. I mean, he's a big downfield guy. Uh, 109 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: this one, to me is the biggest one. Denzel Award 110 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: with that hamstring injury that he suffered during the game, 111 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: still did not practice practicing on Wednesday. If he doesn't play, 112 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: Greedy Williams has to Greedy Williams as to who he's 113 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: only an outside guy. I mean, I like that matchup 114 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: for the Steelers heavily. You know, with with Williams, he 115 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: won't anybody. Right. Newsome looks good, but he's a rookie, 116 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: I mean rookie corner coming awards, the stabilizing force and 117 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: a secondaries with a lot of new and young players, 118 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: and he's a really good one limited for them were 119 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: Beckham himself, rub is probably gonna play it anything, yeah. 120 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: Conklin who said he's gonna play uh. Tony Fields had 121 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: an illness. A. J. Green is another one of their cornerbacks. 122 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: He has He was limited with a groin. Blake Hants 123 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 1: with an elbow. That's the guy who replaced Conklin. Okay, 124 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: so he's dealing with a little something. Baker Mayfield was 125 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: actually limited. He's practicing, yeah, but they listed him as limited. 126 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: Malcolm Smith with an abdomen was limited. J C. Tredder 127 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: with a knee was limited. He's been dealing with that 128 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: for several weeks now. Jedrick Williams Willis with the ankle 129 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: was limited. He played against you know last week. He 130 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: came back from it, but he's been dealing with that 131 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: all season long. And then Mack Wilson with the calf 132 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: injury was limited. Okay without Jok, Wilson's kind of stepping 133 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: up a little bit. They've had about five linebackers that 134 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: have played a lot this year, and j Ok has 135 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: been the best of him, but he's on the equation. 136 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: They kind of settled on him. They're the Walkers, their 137 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: their biggest every he's their most every down type of 138 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: linebacker now with with j O. K Out, but that's 139 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: not that's an area I think you can attack no 140 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: matter what I mean, especially with j O k Out 141 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: and even with him, I would be you know Friar 142 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: Muth and Harris on linebackers and those type of things. 143 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: So they're they're obviously in a bad spot. Um. We 144 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: were asked today I did a video with Mr Matthews 145 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: and Mike pursued it today and what's that? Yeah, match 146 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: starts didn't show up. We have three of us, so 147 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: we only four and supposed to be a round table 148 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: was a triangle table. Um, And we were asked by 149 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: a well, if Max is there, it's more like a yeah, 150 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: run behind that guy. Yeah, he's more around the table 151 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: than you guys. And we were asked, you know, by 152 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: a Twitter question, would you rather play against the healthy 153 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: Keenom or the banged up may Field? And pursued and 154 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: I took different I wouldn't. I said I'd rather play 155 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: his Mayfield. He wanted to play against Keenham. I thought 156 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: we both had good points and his big one was 157 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: Mayfield just rows it better. You know he's gonna attack 158 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: the whole area to field better. And I just thought, 159 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: I don't love the way Mayfield was playing pre injury 160 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: or during injury. And we've seen him have to deal 161 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: with the Steeler pass rush and it didn't go great 162 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: when he was healthy. I I I tend to agree 163 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: with you on that one. Um. We saw a banged 164 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: up Baker Mayfield in the game here last year, the 165 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: first game and that ended up seven and him getting 166 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: pulled out in the third quarter because Kevin Stefanski was 167 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: feared for his life. Yeah, right right. I mean, we're 168 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: not questioning Baker's toughness or whatever, but he drops his 169 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: head in the pocket. He get you know, he feels 170 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: the pain and protect you can protect what's hurts. You 171 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: know that question, you know, are you gonna maybe you 172 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: know you are you gonna get rid of the ball 173 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: more quickly than you normally? Would? You know? You would 174 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: imagine he's he's only run the ball if you look 175 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: at it, Um, last all their carrieser from running backs. Yeah, 176 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: last last three games, I think he's run for eleven, 177 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: eight and eight yards. He's not scrambling like he like 178 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: he typically did, because every hit has to hurt. He's 179 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: trying to even when he slides. Yeah, it probably hurts. 180 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: I bet it does. I bet it does. And I 181 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: don't know, neither one particularly scares me, to be very 182 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: that's not that's not the issue in this game, especially 183 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: with their pass catchers. So right, Yeah, rarely do I 184 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: say it to this degree, but I'm putting eight nine 185 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: in the box. You know, I'm really with him. Yeah, 186 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave Hayden and those guys against you know, 187 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: injured receivers with questionable quarterbacks and basically just be like, 188 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: we can't allow you guys to dominate the game on 189 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: the ground. Make it can be the single high and 190 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: really eight man boxes, heavy personnel, run stuffers, and I 191 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: would run blitz because you know, while you're also run blitzing. 192 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: If they do decide to do some of this play 193 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: action stuff, okay, you're still allowed to get to the 194 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: quarterback and hit the quarterback every chance you got, no 195 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: matter who it is, especially Mayfield. Right, some more to 196 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: think about it, but yeah, they're gonna come out and 197 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,599 Speaker 1: heavy personal. I don't think there's a whole lot of 198 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: mystery to when they have the ball, very honest, and 199 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: you've got to get Chubb It's like it's like playing 200 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: against Derrick Henry. Get him in the backfield before he 201 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: gets rolling. You can't let him roll through. If you 202 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,479 Speaker 1: let him run through your office, through the line untouched, 203 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna have problems. No, you're not problems. Yeah, I 204 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: mean he's an exceptional player, great contact, balance, runs through tackles. Yeah. 205 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: What's a little different from him Henry to me is 206 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: he's more of an instant accelerator. Henry needs a step 207 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: or two to get rolling. So you can maybe chop 208 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: down that redwood before he gets rolling, you know, chubbs 209 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: like a bowling ball. I mean, there's not much to 210 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: hit low and and get him stopped and start. I mean, 211 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: his acceleration is great, and they both have that crazy 212 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: long speed that you give him. They can take it 213 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: to the household corner or you know, run through an 214 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: arm tackle and go. So he's really dangerous. Yeah, you 215 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: don't want your your cornerbacks to have to tackle. No. 216 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: I mean, frankly, i'd be fine. And both corners following 217 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: are not following, but you're on the two receivers and 218 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: off coverage. Put a lot of people in the in 219 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: the box and Minka's over the top and if you 220 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: guys weren't gonna nickel and diamonds with slants and comebacks 221 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: and things like that all day long and you can 222 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: complete you know, eight or nine passes on a fourteen 223 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: play drive, well then yeah, yeah, see if you can 224 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: do it, because you know, the idea is to eventually 225 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: you know, again, the Steelers are not a dominant and 226 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: weren't last year quite frankly, a dominant run stopping team. 227 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: What they were it was more of an opportunistic run 228 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: stopping team. Yeah, where they you know, Okay, you're gonna 229 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: get us five five, then we're gonna get you for 230 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: a two yard loss. Now a second and twelve. Now 231 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Yeah? Can you do it 232 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: for an e d R drive your six DR drive 233 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: or whatever like that. Yeah, So that's a good point, um, 234 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: And I think it'll be more of the same. I 235 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: don't know if they'll go to this extreme, but the 236 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: Browns play such heavy personnel. Do you think there's any 237 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: chance you see like Splaine, Bush and Cholbert on the 238 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: field together, or you know, any of those type of 239 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: packages against might be apt to see Ingram in there. 240 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: You know, if if he gets healthy. Actually, that same 241 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: package that you saw against You know, I like that 242 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: better too, right right, that makes them sense. As Tomlin 243 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: called Ingram, he's a running in training camp. He's a 244 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: run game bully. He is a run game boy. Yeah. Yeah, 245 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: so he would be very used. He would be useful 246 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: in this game to get healthy and be able to 247 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: use that three outside linebacker package. Yeah that you know, 248 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: you can move him around and yeah, that keeps another 249 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: big body near the line of scrimmage. No, I like 250 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: that idea and beat those tight ends up to don't 251 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: let him get off the line of scrimmage. Yeah, I 252 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: would think that's definitely in the cards. So yeah, interesting 253 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: matchup though, But I mean, I don't think there's a 254 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: lot of mystery with this one. And I think you 255 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: said it well that the who the Browns quarterback is 256 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: is kind of low on the list of determining factors today. 257 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: It's not like, oh, if Baker plays, It's not like Seattle. 258 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, if you watched the game against Denver, uh, 259 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: it was like watching the Browns offense. They did just 260 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: enough to win that game out and play action and yeah, 261 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: but as you as you made note of if Chubb 262 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: plays in that game, he goes for overton yards. Oh 263 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah. I mean that Johnson brand really hard, 264 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: got a lot of yardage on his own, but he 265 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: didn't break anything long you know, trouble Yeah, and made 266 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: it look a little easier. Yeah. Um. You know, I 267 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see as much as anything. What the 268 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: Steelers do offensively against Brown's defense is fascinating in that 269 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: it's very talented. Their conundrum, their conundrum. I mean, there 270 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: have so many new start er so I think you 271 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: could look at a glass half full from a Brown's 272 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: perspective and be like, our guys just haven't jailed yet. 273 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: You know, we're making some errors and things like that. 274 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: They're awesome against the run. You know, I came up 275 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: with this number. I was Brown's run for ninety more 276 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: yards per game than their opponents. I mean, like that's 277 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: mind boggling. And there even though they're they want to 278 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: be a lighter personnel group. I mean, they paid a 279 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: lot of defensive backs. They're very analytically oriented in the 280 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: front office. We're gonna pay defensive backs. But they stopped 281 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: the run very well, and you know, Clowney's a much 282 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: better run stuffer than he is past rusher. But if 283 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: you get the third night, you got this Miles Garrett problem, right, 284 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So they can rush the 285 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: pass or two that. You know, if you look at 286 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: their numbers against on first down, they're allowing four yards 287 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: per play on first down. The Steelers are averaging four 288 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: yards a play on first that's not good, by the way, 289 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: Uh no, that's that would be first and their second 290 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: and last in a low number is But the Steelers 291 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: are throwing the ball in an inordinate amount of time 292 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: or running the ball, should say, an inordinate amount of 293 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: times on first down there there at on first down, 294 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: which is just nuts. It's really crazy. I brought that 295 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: up to Matt Canada today and I said, match you 296 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: both those things that, yeah, you're well, I said, match 297 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: you're you're dead last in in yards play on first down. 298 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: And he looked at me and said really, And I'm like, 299 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: didn't you just do a whole week of so you 300 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: think that you didn't know that? And Ben to you 301 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: what your point is? I mean, the number I came 302 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: up with was Ben leads all quarterbacks or as last 303 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: or first, however you want to call a percentage wise 304 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: of throws on first down. You know, well, that's it's 305 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: not just Ben, that's the Steelers. The steel because he's 306 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: taking every stap snap. We're saying the same thing, you know, 307 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: of all the quarterbacks in the league he has. That's 308 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: not I don't know if that's necessary really him. Maybe 309 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: some of it is, maybe some of its r p 310 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: O s maybe, But I mean it's the Steelers, it's 311 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: it's it's more Canada than Roethlisberger. I mixed feelings about 312 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: it though. In general, passing one first down is like 313 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: the most efficient and best way to get cheap yardage 314 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, we have to be honest, 315 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: like you know, we would have been saying last year, well, 316 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: they're throwing too much on first like it can't kind 317 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: of have it both ways. And if you're playing Seattle 318 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: and Denver and you don't really have a running game 319 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: for the first month of the season and your whole 320 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: goal established, establish it, establish it, and you know, you 321 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: come in, you and I talk all week before those games. Hey, 322 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: if you run three times in punt, that's not a 323 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: terrible you know. So we're not talking on the both 324 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: sides of our mouth on that. So for this team. 325 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: Maybe running early was smart, you know, get and it's 326 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: starting to pay off and the run games coming around. 327 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: It can't be something you live with for seventeen games. 328 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,119 Speaker 1: It can't be that extras, not a sip for success, 329 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: not a long term you've established that you now have 330 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: a running game, right, you know. I also don't get 331 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: in your tendencies either. Last year and this isn't really 332 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: Canada problem, some of their tells and tendencies were very disturbing. Yeah, 333 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, so I would come out throwing a little 334 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: bit more in this game, especially if if Denzel Awards 335 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: not out there. Um, you know, I would attack that 336 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: that secondary a little bit. You know. That used to 337 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: be when the Steelers were successful, and they when they 338 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: were most successful, you passed to get the lead and 339 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: then you ran the ball late. And that's what most teams, 340 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: that's what That's what the league you know sometimes, you 341 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: know if you um, I mean the Chiefs hardly ran 342 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: the ball for three years in a row in the 343 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: first time in the first half of games. But the 344 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: key is being able to run the football. I think 345 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: they're able now to run the football, you know, So 346 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: it's time. It's time part of me worries. Boy, the 347 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: Browns defense has a lot of good players. They're gonna 348 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: put it together. They're they're due to put it all 349 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: together a long week, but they also have a lot 350 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: of injuries too, like you said too, and the tapes 351 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: show you know, you mentioned this all week too. They've 352 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: allowed a lot of passing touchdowns. Nine in the last 353 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: three games. Nine the last three games. Yeah, I mean 354 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: they have coverage bus pretty consistently and the pass rush 355 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: is great, but it's really only two guys, you know, 356 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: and one in particular. So they're they're an interesting defense. 357 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: And I don't know what that books written yet on 358 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: that defense. Yeah, it's gonna be to me. And you 359 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: can say this about every game, Um, but which offense 360 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: makes the big mistake? I think it's huge in this 361 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: Who puts the ball on the ground, Who which quarterback 362 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: throws a pick or whatever that may be. Um, you 363 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: gotta win the turnover battle in this game, in particular, 364 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: I think so things so. And I was thinking about 365 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: that today and I went, boy, I'm wonder how good 366 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: Cleveland is on special teams. And I didn't watch I 367 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: didn't watch either taper anything. I'm not watching special teams, tape, 368 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: I other things to do, but I went to Football 369 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: Outsiders as usual, they're like third in the league, you know, 370 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: so in the Steelers are middle of the pack. They 371 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: were fourteen or thirteen or some of those people's jones 372 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: though because he's there he's a return guy. Yeah. Um, 373 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: but I think special teams is as important as turnovers 374 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: and some of that speaks you know to their depth. 375 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: But do they have that depth? Right? All right? Who 376 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: are you asking now? And who's who's active and who isn't. 377 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I again, I haven't studied their special teams. 378 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: They're just ranking good in Football Outsiders, which didn't like seeing. 379 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah we'll see. I mean the Steelers are I think, 380 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: like at least they were last week when I looked, 381 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: they were like fourteen. Yeah, they're good. I mean they're 382 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: slightly above average. And I have watched every special team 383 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: staff of the Steelers and adds up they are a 384 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: great kicker, inconsistent but you know, potentially dangerous punter, good 385 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: enough return games. I think I looked at actually that 386 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: as well. Um, Harvan has actually been better than whatever 387 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: as I don't even know. The a kid they got 388 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: is the Polish hammer or whatever. They can't remember with me. 389 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: It's something like that. They have some kind of nickname 390 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: for the kid. But he's not been great this year 391 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 1: about their their their place kicker has been Okay, McLaughlin, right, 392 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: I think it is. Yeah, he's missed. I think he's 393 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: He's right there with Boswell. They both missed a kick. Okay. 394 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: I mean to your original point, though, they must be 395 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: good on coverage teams and returners to rank that high. 396 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: And if people's jones are top returner, well maybe or not. 397 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: But I do think the game will be one in 398 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: the margins, penalties, position, field position. Actually, the Browns the 399 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: best field position team in the league, give or take 400 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: right near to the top of average starting fuel position. Um. 401 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he's going to keep up, but those type 402 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: of things are what to worry about in this game. 403 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: So I don't see anyone running away in hide, and 404 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: yeah I don't either. I think this is, at least 405 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: as these teams are currently constituted, a pretty even football game. 406 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: Are you too? I think you know Vegas would agree 407 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: with that. What is the three point spread in their building? 408 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: And right right right? Um, I think you can't discount 409 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: Tomlin's records off buys, you know the rest that Ben 410 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: and Kim Heyward and others. But in a couple of 411 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: those dudes, I'm sure very happy to be, you know, 412 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: not be pushing their bodies for the last two weeks. 413 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: And then the opposite I think is true too, is 414 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: really no one's playing more rookie snaps than the Steelers, 415 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: And now you can those rookies can be like, Okay, 416 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: I got a nice chunk of NFL games. I know 417 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: what this league's about. Now I can take a step back, 418 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: assess myself and be like, Okay, I'm really lacking in 419 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: this area. This area, so I'm self scouting there from 420 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: the young guys too. Yeah, I think it's gonna be 421 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 1: a fascinating game and really kind of you know, if 422 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: you if you look at the teams used to break 423 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: the season down when it was sixteen games. You broke 424 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: it down in the quarters. Do you change it up 425 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: now I'm breaking into third since it's seventeen. I don't know, maybe, 426 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: I mean, especially with with yourr by the way it is, 427 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: but what kind of except it's kind of sets up 428 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: perfecticate for the Steelers. Do that they have eleven games left, 429 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: they played six and played six, right, so where are 430 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: we a third of the way in? You know that 431 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: makes some sense. So I'm interested to see this game. Um, 432 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: you know, the rivalry is the rivalry. It is what 433 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: it is. I don't care where the game necessarily is at. No, 434 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: when these two teams like, it doesn't really matter. The 435 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: home field advantage to me, isn't all that important. You're 436 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: climbing on a bus and driving to Cleveland. It's not 437 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: like Ben hasn't had success in that building, you know, 438 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: Tom Lnnon. You know that doesn't really worry me. Yeah, 439 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm interested too to see how Ben 440 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: plays because he's, as you mentioned, he's had a lot 441 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: of success up there. Um, he's twenty three, two and 442 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: one against the Browns. This could be his last trip 443 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: probably brown Stad. Yeah, probably meet in the playoffs again 444 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: or something like that. This could be it. Um, you 445 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: know this is a place that he is. Aaron Rodgers 446 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: said against the Bears a couple of weeks ago. I 447 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: you know I've owned I owned this. Yeah. Those guys 448 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: have a long enough track record to make that very true. Um. Yeah, again, 449 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: it feels it feels like you and I've been talking 450 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: about this game forever just to buy week, and the 451 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: Browns had their long you know, almost you know, extended 452 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: week as well. So it's like, I'm about ready for 453 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: the give here, please do it, please get here a game. 454 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about this one any more. 455 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, and the Ravens are off this weekend. Yeah, 456 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: so yeah, Bengals got the Jets to like, it's not 457 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: like there's something else to talk about within the division, 458 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: right and again, it's been two weeks of talking about 459 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: the Steelers for you know, since their last game. So 460 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm ready for this one, and I think they will 461 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: be too. I I do as well, you know. And 462 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: you add in the fact that the Browns beat them 463 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: last year, and there's been a lot of you know, 464 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: a lot of talk, um boy, they got you. Now 465 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: they own they like, didn't we beat them thirty seven 466 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: last year? If you're you're one of these players going, okay, 467 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: we beat your thirty eight seven at our place, then 468 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: you barely beat us with our backups, and all of 469 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: a sudden because you won a playoff game because we 470 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: snapped the ball over the head. And now now all 471 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you own this, this rivalry right, And 472 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: I think that's more reading clipping clippings and Twitter. And 473 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: you know, boy, the Browns are an up and coming 474 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: team and the Steelers are falling apart, like the players 475 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 1: do it that way. Yeah, and he goes back there. 476 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: You know, when we looked at the football side or 477 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: stuff at the end of the year or before the 478 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: season started, they should say and they weren't big believers 479 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: in the Browns were you know, they Okay, they made 480 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: some moves and they should be better, but what really 481 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: were they last year? They weren't. You know, they were 482 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: a team that was probably more tracked closer to eight 483 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: and eight than they did to the Tenants six that 484 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: they finished. The negative point difference, right, they had a 485 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: negative point difference. Rare in this league to have the 486 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: double digit win team with a negative point difference. And 487 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: if the Steelers don't if the Steelers go up there 488 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: and they play their guys in the last game of 489 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: the regular season last year, they probably win that game 490 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: and Cleveland doesn't make the playoffs. In history is completely 491 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: different now, you're right. I mean they lost bad to 492 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: the Steelers and bad to the Ravens. You know, when 493 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: they look like one of the worst teams in the 494 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: league and that was not long ago. Yeah, I'm I'm 495 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: fascinated to see where this goes. Yeah, I just it 496 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: could be really interesting, but maybe it won't. I think 497 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: the Browns are the more high variants team, Like are 498 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: they are they taking a step and we can start 499 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: talking about them. Is are they one of the best 500 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: teams in the NFC or a f C or are 501 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna be like not their year? They're banged up there. 502 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: I don't even though that I see that. I don't. 503 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: I think they're more they're disappointing. I think they're closer 504 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: to the Steelers than they are to Buffalo or Buffalo 505 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: I do too. Yeah, I mean frankly that this isn't 506 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: what we're talking about because it's not the case. But 507 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: when every team is add percent healthy, their quarterback situation 508 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: worries me much more than most DFC contender. They might 509 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: be the Bengals, the Indy Dalton Bengals. They have a 510 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: lot of that feel too. Yeah, they got a great, 511 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: great roster, but the quarterback is still a big question 512 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: mark when we look about this era, that's who they 513 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: might be. Yeah. Anyways, let's take a break here. Is 514 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the 515 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. Not Brown's Nation Radio 516 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: or Bengals Nation Radio, or even Ravens Nation Radio. This 517 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: is Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right 518 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: after this