1 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: Look to the folks at Farm Bureau Health Plans when 3 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: you need someone who knows the healthcare coverage game play. 4 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: They've been protecting Tennesseean's for seventy five years with Amy 5 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Wells and coach Dave McGinnis and later to be joined 6 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: by Rhet Brian. I'm Mike Keith. We welcome the ot 7 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: people to Jackson, Tennessee. Amy, Welcome to Hub City Brewery, 8 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: Mike Keith. This place is cool. There is all kinds 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: of stuff going on here. I mean, I'm looking at 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: a bowling alley of full bar. There's brewing behind me. 11 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: What more could you want? Serious beer here? There is 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: serious beer here. Not great for a pregnant lady, but 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: great if you're ready to he if you're literally anyone else, 14 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: this is the place you want to be here. It 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: smells good, it does smell good, and we are thrilled 16 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: to be bringing the OTP to West Tennessee to one 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: of my favorite places in the world, Jackson, Tennessee. And 18 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: as we're at Hub City Brewing, we welcome Kyle Spurgeon, 19 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: the President and CEO of the Jackson chamber and a 20 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: longtime friend of the program. You have done so much 21 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: for the Tennessee Titans over the years. Thank you for 22 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: having us down. Thank you guys, all of you for 23 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: being back. I mean, this is an exciting day in 24 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: this different format for us here. Glad you brought it 25 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: back to Jackson, so that just that tells us hopefully 26 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: we did something right before, so welcome back. Well. When 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: you said let's do Hub City Brewing again, I was like, absolutely, 28 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: because we did a chamber event here also with Titan 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: season ticket members in the area, of which there were 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: a bunch and it was a fantastic event and it's 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: it's wonderful to be back. When I mentioned that to you, 32 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: immediately said, yeah, let's do it there. So this place 33 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: kind of sells itself and everyone here today, like you 34 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: mentioned playing corn hold, there's beer back here and it's 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: just such a great place an asset for Jackson. A 36 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: lot of great things have been going on in Jackson 37 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: recent years, and of course with the announcement about the 38 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: big plant in Stanton, Tennessee, which is not very far 39 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: from here, a lot of ripples all over West Tennessee 40 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: and a lot of excitement all over West Tennessee and 41 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: certainly ripples all the way to Jackson. Yeah, our chamber 42 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 1: life changed September twenty eighth last year when Blue Level 43 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: City was announced. That project changes West Tennessee. It's a 44 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: five point six billion dollar project, fifty seven hundred new 45 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: jobs and by twenty thirty over fifteen thousand jobs. What 46 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: we're doing now is getting ready for all that growth. 47 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: And one of the things you have to think about, 48 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: not all growth is great. So what we're positioning ourselves 49 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: for here in Jackson is to attract the very best 50 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: growth that we can. Our trajectory is more like a Murfreesborough, 51 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: So we should look up ten years from now and 52 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: see Jackson with a lot of the amenities and the 53 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: growth that has happened in Murfriesboro, Tennessee. You've been at 54 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: this a long time. You were one of the driving 55 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: forces behind the Sportsplex, which brought a lot of baseball 56 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: and softball all during the spring and summer and fall 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: to Jackson that had never been here before. A lot 58 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: of people coming to town and staying in hotels and 59 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: eating in your restaurants. The Sportsplex also a key for 60 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: the Titans because you had the idea early on to 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: have the Titans Caravan at the Sportsplex, which made it 62 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: year in, year out the largest Titans caravans stop on 63 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: the tour. And it was really remarkable. What led you 64 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: to host it at the Sportsplex And why do you 65 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: think it worked so well for all those years? I 66 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: think it was just getting to know you and you 67 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: what the goals were, this is why we want to accomplish, 68 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: and being able to put it at the Sportsplex. That's 69 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: a seventeen field baseball and softball complex, and with that 70 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of amenities. You've got pavilions, you've got 71 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: an entrance, and for the way that you wanted to 72 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: set up the caravan, that worked out perfect because people 73 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: could come in. You set the players up in folks 74 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: even in inclement weather if that happens, if it was raining, 75 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: they're under the pavilion. So we just thought that would 76 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: work well, and obviously it did. I think we were 77 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: successful because we listened to your team, he said, this 78 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: is what we want to accomplish. That just happened to 79 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 1: be the best place and that event brought so many 80 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: kids and families and for some of those kids who 81 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: were coming fifteen twenty years ago. They're grown up now 82 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: imagine that, I know, especially your kids, correct that the 83 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: same kind of thing where now they are fans of 84 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. Yeah, that's how you grow a fan base. 85 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: And you guys, to me, that's why the Titans have 86 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: been so successful from day one, and that it's not 87 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: the Nashville Titans, it's the Tennessee Titans, and you sell 88 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: that and you've done that up into West Kentucky, Middle Kentucky, 89 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: down into Alabama and Mississippi, Arkansas. And it's because the 90 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: team has reached out all across the state and made 91 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: fans feel like, you know, we're a part of this organization. 92 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: So kudos to everyone involved with the Titans for doing that. 93 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: Now you're Saint Louis Cardinals fan. I have been told 94 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: you've done your research, and I think a lot of 95 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: people around here are Saint Louis Cardinals fans, which proud 96 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: of you. But it feels almost like the Tennessee Titans 97 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: might be the NFL version of the Saint Louis Cardinals 98 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: because there's a regional aspect to it. Probably even more 99 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: so now, I think is that because obviously the Cardinals 100 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: are four hours away. Titans are two hours. Titans have 101 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: had a lot of success here recently, so you may 102 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: even think or say that the Titans have surpassed the 103 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals in terms of fan support. So again, this is 104 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: just a great atmosphere and you've got a lot of 105 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: folks here that love sports. So, yes, the Titans are 106 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: the team for West Tennessee Verny Titans super fans that 107 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: really stand out to you. There are some crazy people, 108 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: your friends, some of my friends really. Yeah. And the 109 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: Flame Brothers, yes, that the original Plea Brothers. They were 110 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: some of the first ones. I don't know if they're 111 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: still doing that or not, but yeah, there's some crazy 112 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: fans that just have a huge time and they're obviously 113 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: a lot happier when the Titans are winning. All of us, yes, 114 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: all of us? All right, So your job is really 115 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: you're in the business of promoting business for Jackson in 116 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: a lot of ways. You travel all over the country 117 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: to see the latest and the greatest. You're trying to 118 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: give Jackson an edge in that way, and you see 119 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: all of the trends. So let me ask you, as 120 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: a sports fan and as the president CEO of a 121 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: big chamber of commerce. When you here tell that Nashville 122 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: is looking deeply into building a new football stadium with 123 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: a retractable roof, what are your reactions to that? As 124 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: a member of a chamber of commerce that's very prominent, 125 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: and as a sports fan, first first reaction is get 126 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: that deal done, because that changes. Nashville has become one 127 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: of the most attractive cities in the world, not the country, 128 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: and that reverberates all throughout the region. You do have 129 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: folks in West Tennessee and East Tennessee that man, don't 130 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: send anything else to Nashville. I don't believe that at all. 131 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: Nashville needs to grow as much as possible because it 132 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: benefits all of us. Nashville has reached this point with 133 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: a certain type of events so that it can draw 134 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: on the concerts and the sporting of everything else. But 135 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: when you build a retractable stadium, stadium with a retractable roof, 136 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: obviously Super Bowl Final four everything else that can come 137 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: with that, that is another level and it doesn't just 138 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: benefit Nashville, it benefits this entire state and this entire region. 139 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, from hearing from the Jackson perspective, from a 140 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: guy that runs a chamber. We do hope you're successful 141 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: and personally, yeah, I want to go to a Final four. 142 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: I want to go to another Super Bowl. See that. 143 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: So yes, so good luck. It seems like he's got 144 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: it down. Coach, He's perfectly got it down. You need 145 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: to see that again and again and again. Good I've 146 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: been in on two stadium builds in my NFL coaching career. 147 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: We need people like you. Well, thank you. I will 148 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: preach that message anywhere because when a sports team is 149 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: successful and when they have a venue that is what 150 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: like the Titans are looking to build, it benefits everyone. 151 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: And again it's I don't want people to think it 152 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: is just a benefit for Nashville. It is a benefit 153 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: for not only all of Tennessee, but the entire region 154 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: of this part of the country. Well, we thank you. 155 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: This is such a special place to me because the 156 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: support we've had here from day one. The first big 157 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: stop ever for the Oilers was in Jackson, Casey Jones Village, 158 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: Casey's Jones Village. They took they brought the whole team 159 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: here when they moved to Memphis in nineteen ninety seven. 160 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: The caravan stops that we talk about, I mean we 161 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: would have close to a thousand people at the sportsplex 162 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: and we would have to a lot so much to 163 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: be able to extra time, and it was a totally 164 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: different you know. Thomas Media helped promote it, Jaya helped 165 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: promote it, the Chamber help promote it. Everybody was in 166 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: on it, and it got to the point where it 167 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: was so big that we didn't do a lot of 168 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: public stops in other places in West Tennessee because people 169 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: could more conveniently come here and we could spend an 170 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: extra thirty minutes or an hour here and we would 171 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: go to schools in those other areas, which benefited us 172 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: in great ways. So thank you publicly. Privately, you know 173 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: how I feel and you are a big part of 174 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: our success here. Old Southwest Conference. Guys sitting next to 175 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: me knows what a friend of the program means. We 176 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: mean that in the very best well and likewise, because 177 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: you know the friendship that we've developed, you and I personally, 178 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: and then other folks within the organization. It benefits all 179 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: of us because a Jackson is going to prosper more 180 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: when the Titans in their organization prosper. It's not just 181 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: about wins on the field. It's about wins everywhere else 182 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: through the business organization part of the Titans. So anyway 183 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: we can ever help with that, our community will do that. 184 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: We appreciate wins on the field too, Yes, we all do. 185 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: Kyle Spurgeon, thank you so much. Bring Rhett Brian in, 186 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: the ever reliable Rhett Brian from Titan's Radio will join 187 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: us as we say goodbye to Kyle Spurgeon, the President 188 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: CEO of the Jackson Chamber. As we wait on young 189 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: mister Brian to sit down, we review the OTP at 190 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: Tennessee tech A. I got my picture made with awesome Eagle, 191 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: which was awesome. Fush you love these pictures with all 192 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: of these other mascots. I mean, we've got t REC 193 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: right here, picture made with t REC two. I enjoy that. 194 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: The godfather of Titan's Radio, Larry Stone, was a fabulous guest. 195 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: We reviewed nineteen edge rushers and twelve interior defensive lineman 196 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: from the Coach Mac one fifty. Coach Mac and Rhett 197 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: Brian both believed that five edge Rushers will be first 198 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: round picks. Aidan Hutchison, Kavon Thibadeau, George Karloftis Jermaine Johnson 199 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: and Travon Walker. Coach Mack and Rerhet also both believed 200 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: that Travon Walker could be Jacksonville's pick at number one 201 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: overall if they like Walker over Aiden Hutchinson. Coach Mack 202 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: is a big fan of Western Kentucky edge D'Angelo Malone 203 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: as a sleeper to watch. Rhet says that Cam Thomas 204 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: of San Diego State would be his sleeper. Neither coach 205 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: mc nor Rhet Bryan would be surprised if the Titans 206 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: took an edge rusher at number twenty six. That's because 207 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: both believe there are elite edge rushers in this draft. 208 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: On the defensive line, the standouts are two Georgia Bulldogs, 209 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis and DeVante Wyatt. Coach Mack expects both to 210 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: go in the first round. Logan Hall of Houston is 211 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: another player that coach Mac likes, as he is a 212 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: versatile chess piece in the defensive line, especially on passing downs. 213 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: Oklahoma's perry On Winfrey was MVP of the Senior Bowl. 214 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: Coach Mac likes his motor and his fire. Overall, a solid, 215 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: if unspectacular interior defensive line crew with several guys who 216 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: can help so that's a review of yesterday. Do I 217 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: miss anything about our visit to Tennessee Tech? You never 218 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: miss anything, Mike. He few are spot on. And when 219 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: we go back and review that, what's you really are 220 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 1: going to see and what we're gonna see during the 221 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: draft is there are legitimate players on the edge and 222 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: in the interior of the defensive line. They're gonna make 223 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: a difference in teams in the first year. Right now, 224 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: before we delve into the cornerbacks and the safety prospects 225 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: from the coach macwe fifty, let's talk some Titans related news. First, 226 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: tight end Anthony Ferkster has departed for Atlanta. This is 227 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: not a surprise, is it, Coach No, it's not a 228 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: surprise at all. Arthur Smith really, I mean, his roster 229 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: is not good. It wasn't good when he got the job. 230 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: He's trying to build it up. He knows these guys 231 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: that he has brought in. He's got Dean pas down there. 232 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: He just got Rashaun Evans. Now he's got Anthony ferks 233 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: Dean Pas new Rashaun Evans. Arthur knows Ferkser, knows how 234 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: he practices, knows how he prepares. So he's getting people 235 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: that he knows and so then he can get his 236 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: scouting group, so start to build up around guys that 237 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: play ball like he wants to play ball. And it's 238 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: not a surprise because of those things, the familiar, you know, 239 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: the devil you know, as they say, and you know, 240 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: we've seen it in teams all over the play And 241 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: think about this, since Mike Vrabel and John Robbins had 242 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: have been together, there have been former Patriots that have 243 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: come onto the roster like Malcolm Butler, and there's Zach 244 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: Cunningham here right now at linebacker who was a former 245 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: Houston Texan that Mike Vrabel knew when he was there 246 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: as defensive coordinator. It's not uncommon. And to Coach Max's point, 247 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: you know, the cupboard wasn't very full when Arthur Smith 248 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: got that job a year. I guess the other point 249 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: that I'm making too about why it's not a surprise 250 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: Amy is Ferkser had a chance to take a bigger 251 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: role in the Titans offense last year and unfortunately wasn't 252 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: able to do it. Yeah, it just didn't pan out. 253 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: His twenty twenty one season didn't turn out the way 254 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: that the Titans wanted it too the way that I'm 255 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: sure he wanted it too, And so it's time for 256 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: him to get a fresh start somewhere else and get 257 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: a fresh start with Arthur Smith, who's his former position 258 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: coach is former coordinator, I mean, someone he's very familiar with. 259 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: That's a good opportunity for him to get a change 260 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: of scenery and hopefully have more success there. Yeah, the 261 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: feeling was that it run its course. Yeah, that he 262 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: had done all he could here and that in terms 263 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: of where they wanted to go, they got Austin Hooper, 264 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: they bring Jeff Swain back, correct, and Coachmack. I think 265 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: it's safe to say the most likely possibility now with 266 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: Anthony firks Or being in Atlanta Falcon is the Titans 267 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: are also going to draft a tight end. They'll be 268 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: in the tight end market in this draft. You're correct, 269 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: all right. The legendary Jim Wyatt posted his look at 270 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: the Titans first round selection in thirty different mock drafts. 271 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: He goes to and does it every week. I love 272 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: it that he does that, you know, I love the 273 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: mock draft. It's one stop shopping, it's one stop com 274 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: It's if you're a Titans fan. You don't have to 275 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: read anything else well, because that's what you do. Anyway. 276 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: You look at every mock draft. I just scroll down 277 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: to twenty six and then you go okay, and you 278 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: throw it away like Jim Wyatt does all the legwork 279 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: for you. He does, and he does Tennessee Titans dot 280 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: Com at j White Sports on Twitter. So he looked 281 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: at thirty different mocks. The top two mocked players to 282 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: the Titans, and there I'm not saying the top two 283 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: made fun of players of the Titans. The top two 284 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: mocked players to the Titans with three votes Apiece Telsa 285 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: offensive tackle Tyler Smith and Georgia linebacker Nacobe d So. 286 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: Out of thirty, three of them picked Nacobe Dan to 287 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: the Titans, and three of them said Tyler Smith any 288 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: reaction to either of those. Both ball players. Both ball players, 289 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: Both ball players that will play a lot in their 290 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: first year in the National Football League wherever they go. 291 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: Both good players. Multiple players were selected in two mocks 292 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: to go to the Titans. Here's that list. Pittsburgh quarterback 293 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett, Penn state wide receiver Johan Dotson, Northern Iowa 294 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: offensive tackle Trevor Pennig Central Michigan offensive tackle Bernhard Ryman, 295 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: Utah linebacker Devin Lloyd, Texas A and m guard Kenyon Green. 296 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: Any reaction to any of those names, any surprises, anything 297 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: jump out to you. Go ahead, Amy, Well, I mean 298 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: it's kind of all over the road here, It's very 299 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: much all over the road. I mean, just looking at 300 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: this list, there's not a lot of rhyme, more reason. 301 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: It's just who they think is going to be there, 302 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: which I think is great. I think the Kenny Pickett 303 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: thing is interesting because there there is a section of 304 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: the media that covers the draft that firmly believes that 305 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett is going to fall, that it's gonna be 306 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: Malik Willis who rises as the quarterback, and that it's 307 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: going to be Kenny Pickett who falls. And then there 308 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: is a more massive section of the media who covers 309 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: the draft who thinks Kenny Pickett is going number six 310 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: to Carolina. Well, if you think Kenny Pickett's going to fall, 311 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: if you're looking at it realistically, then you have to 312 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: believe that Matt Corrall is rising. I mean, that's going 313 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: to be something that will be interesting that we will 314 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: have on Draft night. Just watching the course. You know, 315 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: it's it's dealer's choice once you get to the draft, 316 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: maybe even Desmond Ridard Rising correct. I mean the draft boards, 317 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 1: you know, for everybody that's listening, so that you know, 318 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: because the draft boards look different all over the league. 319 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: They look completely different all over the league. That's why 320 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: you get these huge discrepancies. A lot of weren't most 321 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: of these picks made by people that were either covering 322 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: the teams or with the teams correct most of them, 323 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: and so that's why this They cover the teams. Yeah, 324 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: so that's why this varies. It varies a lot, no doubt. 325 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: All Right, here are the other players who were mocked 326 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: to the Titans this week. Arkansas wide receiver Treylan Burkes, 327 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: Ole Miss quarterback Matt Correll, Iowa State running back Breeze Hall, 328 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: North Carolina quarterback Sam Howell, Florida State outside linebacker Jermaine Johnson, 329 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: Boston College center guard Zion Johnson, Iowa center Tyler Linderbaum 330 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: Michigan outside linebacker David a. Jabo, Ohio statewide receiver Chris Alave, 331 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: North Dakota State wide receiver Christian Watson, Liberty quarterback Malik 332 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: Willis Georgia defensive lineman DeVante Wyatt, all right, surprises interesting 333 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: things that you take for many of those names. What 334 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: I see in mocks in this case is a lot 335 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: of targeted guesses at needs offensive line. I understand that 336 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: wide receiver. I understand that. You see a lot of 337 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: different examples. And then you just got the wildcard outliers 338 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: who are looking to get clickbait, I think on their 339 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: mock drafts by saying they're going to take a linebacker. 340 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: Peter Schrager did that of Good Morning Football in the 341 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: NFL network last week and had the Kobe Deane at 342 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: twenty six, and you know, Titan Twitter went on fire. 343 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: It's like, WHOA, what are we doing? Why are we 344 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: taking a linebacker? Well, when you look at this, you 345 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: know clearly most of these people that are listed won't 346 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: be there at twenty six, right, let's just say that. 347 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: But when you look at it as far as ability 348 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: to play the game early, which is what you would 349 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: like to do with a pick, there all of them absolutely, 350 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: except for the quarterbacks. Except for the quarterbacks, any of 351 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: these people that are listed here. The one outlier that 352 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: I see, Mike, you know there that is starting to 353 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: rise too, we talk about risers in these drafts. Is 354 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: Christian Watson from Northdakota State. This guy's been continually rising 355 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: since the season has been over, throughout the combine, and 356 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: then through this process. Yeah, it seems to me that 357 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: people don't know, nobody knows what's going to happen. And 358 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: I think that Tourette's point, it's one hundred percent true 359 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: that they're playing to a lot of the Titans needs 360 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: and kind of looking to see who goes where and 361 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: all of that. You know, it's a big puzzle that 362 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: everybody's just trying to put together and no one's ever 363 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: going to be right. I mean, they're mock drafts. That's 364 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: it's it's a game. It's for fun. But I do 365 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: think that it's interesting some of the quarterbacks that have 366 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: snuck in there. I think that's interesting. I think some 367 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: of the defensive players that have snuck in there are 368 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: also interesting to me. I think Rhett might be onto 369 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: something with people trying to just stir things up and 370 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: get a little crazy. I think there's some of that. 371 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: But you also wonder, too if there's a sense that 372 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: what John Robinson may do at twenty six is just 373 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: say this player is so good I can't pass him up. Well, 374 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: that's one hundred percent true. And especially when you're sitting now, 375 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: like the Titans are sitting the first pick at twenty 376 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: six and next at ninety. That's pretty good spread. So 377 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: you've got to decide, you know, how you weigh that? 378 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: How do you weigh that? Who will be available at 379 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: ninety that can make up a difference, and who can 380 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: I not afford to pass up at a twenty six? 381 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: And then do I have somebody that wants to come 382 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: up to twenty six for whatever reason? Does it matter 383 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: if it's a reason that you've thought about, if they 384 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: want to come up, is it worth me moving back 385 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: off of a player I could possibly get there at 386 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: twenty six. I think that's an interesting point. And there 387 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: are some mocks that are already starting to play the 388 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: Titans as that team that may drop back a couple 389 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: of different scenarios, maybe them flipping back to thirty two, 390 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: with Detroit taking Detroit's sixty sixth pick and then being 391 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: able to pick at thirty two, sixty six, and ninety. 392 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: Those sorts of examples are out there right now. Hypothetically, 393 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: maybe Detroit in that spot flipping back up and moving 394 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: up to twenty six. Maybe they if Kenny Pickett's sitting there, 395 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: they want Kenny Brackett because Jared Goff they may not 396 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: figures their long term god right, well, I mean, there's 397 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: some speculation that I think is really fascinating and it's 398 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: being done right now by some very normally informed reporters 399 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: who are saying Detroit might take Malik Willison too because 400 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: they just think he's so good and they know with 401 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: Jared Goff they can sit him for a whole year 402 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: and that he becomes their future superstar that takes them 403 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: to the next level due to the fact that they 404 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: don't think they're probably gonna win anything this year anyway, 405 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: Brad Holmes as their general manager. I was with Brad 406 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: at the RAM right for a lot of years. You 407 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: know in the personnel department that thinking is not foreign 408 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: to him absolutely. And plus they are still, let's be honest, 409 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: they're still on their honeymoon period with Dan Campbell there. 410 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: As far as Detroit, the Detroit was not good. They 411 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: were not good. They were not good this year. They 412 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: were not good before Dan Campbell got the job. That's 413 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: normally how you get jobs in the league. The team's 414 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: not good, and so they want to make a change, 415 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: and so this possibly could happen. If you're John Robinson 416 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: and they're thirty mocks coach Mac and they have you 417 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: taking twenty different guys. Even though you don't care about 418 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: the mocks, you gotta like the fact that nobody has 419 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: a bead on what you're thinking. Now. I like your 420 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: angle on that, Mike Keith, You're right, I don't like 421 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: the mocks. Our coach for thirty one years, I never 422 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: looked at one. I mean, because it doesn't matter. None 423 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: of these guys that mock this. Their jobs and mortgages 424 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: don't depend on their picks. People that are picking your 425 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: jobs and your mortgage depends on it. Okay, But to 426 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: your point, because what that tells you is out there 427 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: now in the ethernet, nobody knows. That's where you want 428 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: to That's where you want to be. Last year, we 429 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: did a mock draft on the OTP leading up to 430 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: the draft. Fun Outside of that, the only person he 431 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: does mock drafts with at all, this guy. That's it. 432 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: You're that guy. And the thing is, I'd just like 433 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: to have fun with it. He was like, all right, 434 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: let's let's what do we have for a trade here? 435 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: All right, let's what do we have player wise? What's 436 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: in this pod? And we play? You know, he hates it, 437 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: but I'm the only one that he will oblige. I 438 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: will say this. I trust Ritt more with a mock 439 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: draft than I do any of these Put this on 440 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: these sheets. That's fair. There you go, and that's Coach 441 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: Mack for you. So let's pivot now. Speaking of Coach 442 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: Mac and thanks he does not enjoy, or thanks he 443 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: does joy. We made him pick one hundred and fifty players, 444 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: which I hope he kind of enjoyed. Enjoy that. All right? 445 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: So we've got seventeen corners here, and I would like 446 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: to list them off. Is that okay with you? Yes? 447 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: All right? So your seventeen corners on the Coach Mack 448 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: one fifty A mad Sauce Gardner from Cincinnati, Andrew Booth 449 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: from Clemson, Kaier Elam from Florida, Derek Stingley Junior from LSU, 450 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie from Washington, Kyler Gordon from Washington, Roger McCreary 451 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: from Auburn, Jalen armor Davis from Alabama, Marcus Jones from Houston, 452 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant from Cincinnati, Terek Woolin from San Antonio, Martin 453 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: Emerson from Mississippi State, Josh Job from Alabama, Darion Kendrick 454 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: from Georgia, A Caleb Evans from Missouri, Alonte Taylor from Tennessee, 455 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: Zion McCollum from sam Houston State Coach Mack how is 456 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 1: this class of corners as an entire group, large numbers, 457 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: wise and good and here and fast. This was the 458 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: fastest combine with wide receivers and defensive backs in the 459 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: history of the National Football League combine. I've been to 460 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: every one of them. This was the fastest group. This 461 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: is a nice group. You're gonna be able to find 462 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: players in this group amy that will be able to 463 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: help your football team in some phase, whether it be 464 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: on the edge, it be in the slot, or whether 465 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: it be on special teams. Does a gunner as they 466 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: work their way into the lineup through the fifth round? 467 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: So Sauce Gardner has the definitive coolest nickname in this 468 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: draft this year. Rett Bryant is. He also the definitive 469 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: number one best corner in this draft this year. He 470 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: is He'll be the first one taken off the board, 471 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: and it's the measurements because he's a long corner, and 472 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: it's the production. So he's just over six two and 473 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: a half one ninety you're gonna get an eighty inch wingspan, 474 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: So he's a long corner. Four four one in the 475 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: forty and production is there? Only best one game in 476 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: three seasons, thirty seven games total, only about three targets 477 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,239 Speaker 1: per game in twenty twenty one, did not give up 478 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: a twenty plus yard reception, twenty seven career pass breakups, 479 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: nine career interceptions. That's the kind of guy you want. Now, 480 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: he didn't see a lot of you know, targets his 481 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: way because they knew that was going to be a problem. 482 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: And I think he's a guy that you can get 483 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: into a lineup and make a difference in a secondary 484 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: all right, Max, So who's the number two corner? Trent 485 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: McDuffie from Washington. Okay, I mean, now, this guy is 486 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: a different build than Sauce is. He's not a long corner. 487 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: He's five ten six one ninety three, which means he's 488 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: just a hair under five eleven, but he's got exceptional 489 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: athletic ability. A thirty eight and a half. It's vertical jump. 490 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: The reason we always talk about vertical jump, especially in 491 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: the skill sets, it's explosion, it's quick movement, you know, 492 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: it's ability to move really fast in the short area. 493 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: A long way thirty eight and a half is incredible. 494 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: Ten eight standing broad jump that's what you want. Runs 495 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: a four to four to four. But his athletic traits 496 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: are off the charts. As far as being sticky on receivers, 497 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: he's sticky. He can mirror match really, really easily. He's 498 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: a smart player. He's technique savvy too, you know, coming 499 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: out of Washington and that defensive set that they run 500 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: up there. Really, when you watch him, you're seeing a 501 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: really technique tight player, which is nice. Let's hit both 502 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: of you guys with this. Rhett first, is Derek Stingley, 503 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: the wildcard at cornerback after his excellent pro day at LSU. Yeah, 504 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: because you're longing for or lacking a lot of film 505 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: and production. Only ten games played in the last two 506 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: seasons at LSU, But you're right. He goes to his 507 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: pro day and blows it up. He's a shade over 508 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: six feet, one hundred and ninety pounds four four four 509 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: in the forty yard dash, thirty eight and a half 510 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: inch vertical leap, broad jumping over ten and at three 511 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: cone drill sub seven seconds. So the short area quickness 512 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: is there. It's the lack of production because of the 513 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: injuries that kept him off the field. That's one hundred 514 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: percent right. If you were taking him off of his 515 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: freshman year, he'd be number one right up rut from jump. 516 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: He has not been able to match that first year 517 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: production at LSU, but the coverability and the athletic ability 518 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: is still there. I think all of us that evaluate 519 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: players in the league were wondering how he was going 520 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: to do with that pro day. I think that pro 521 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: day answered some at least physical questions, So I think 522 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: he's still very much in the mix now. Mac Marcus 523 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: Jones out of Houston is someone that people are starting 524 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: to talk a lot about. Do you think it's because 525 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: of his corner play or is it because of his 526 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: abilities as a returner? But Amy, I like the way 527 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: you study this too, And I'm serious, you know, because 528 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: look this this this is a corner that is a 529 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: good corner but is a great returner. But he's got 530 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: enough athletic ability he won't play to me, he won't 531 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: play outside corner whoever, wherever he goes. He will return 532 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: kicks and punts wherever he goes, but he will immediately 533 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: move into a slot defensive back. And he's got enough 534 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: athletic ability to do that. So you're you're one hundred 535 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: percent right. But the thing that draws you back into 536 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: him is not the fact that he's going to be 537 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,239 Speaker 1: a perimeter corner. He'll be a slot, but he'll be 538 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: returning kicks and punts for you from day one. And 539 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: this guy is not a big corner. He's five eight, 540 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: that's what he measured at at the combine, but he's scrappy. 541 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: Eighteen pass breakups and five interceptions last season and an 542 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 1: NC double, a tying record of nine returns for touchdowns, 543 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: six on kickoff, three on punt. Core special teamer can 544 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: help you in the secondary. Who else do you like 545 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: at corner? Tariq Willin from San Antonio now a little 546 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: bit more of a developmental cornerback, But I like this 547 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: guy because he is big, sixty three almost sixty four, 548 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: and he's converted wide receiver, a blazing four two six 549 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: forty at the combine and an explosive forty two inch 550 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: vertical leap at almost six foot four inches tall. He 551 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: needs work, but if you can get him, that's a guy. 552 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: Here's my guy. You know I'm gonna pick a guy 553 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: from Texas, right sure, I'm a Texan. Zion McCollum from 554 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: sam Houston State. Zion McCollum is my guy. I found. 555 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm looking at him. In a third or fourth round, 556 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: you'll be six Z two one one ninety nine four 557 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: three three forty. I mean that's not fast, that's fast 558 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: fast all right. Now. He needs a lot of technique work, 559 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: but you've got so much to build with with him. 560 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: Zion McCollum is my guy. So who do you think 561 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: among the corners is going to be a great draft value? Mac, 562 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: I'll start with you unless you don't want me. No, no, no, 563 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: I want you to start. I want you to start 564 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: with because I like I like the I think that 565 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: the other corner at Washington, Kyler Gordon is going to 566 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: be a really good value pick. Hey, you know I 567 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 1: always like you asking me questions. I know you did. 568 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: That's why we have a podcast together. But that's why 569 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: you're named first on the podcast because you're in charge 570 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: of everything. But Kyler Gordon is a guy I like 571 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: five eleven four one ninety four doesn't have I mean, 572 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: you're not talking about elite speed, but he's a really sticky, good, 573 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: really savvy corner. I like that guy, Rett kayer Elam 574 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: from Florida. And the reason I say this he has 575 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: the size, He's a shade over six feet, the strength 576 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: and physicality, The athleticism is there, four three nine forty 577 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: not too slow, thirty seven and a half inch vertical leap. 578 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: But he played against Southeastern Conference competition for three years 579 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: at or like that. Speaking of an SEC corner, Alonte 580 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: Taylor from Tennessee is making visits to various team complexes 581 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: as his stock seems to be rising after he ran 582 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: in the four to three sixes. Coach mac, what do 583 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: teams like about the native of Coffee County Alonte Taylor? 584 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: A lot of people ask me about him. When I 585 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: was at the combine. You know, I sit with the 586 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: position coaches during the drills that they have up there. 587 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: People are thinking that he may be a safety mic 588 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: and there, and they're talking about he one hundred ninety 589 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: nine pounds. They like his length. They also like that 590 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: you know that he's able to come downhill. And tackle. 591 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: He played corner, but they're not sure he's a man 592 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: match corner all the time in this league. But they 593 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: think that you bring this guy in there, start training 594 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: him at safety. They think he's an immediate gunner on 595 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: your special teams, which is huge. That is really really big. 596 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: So I think a lot of teams are leaning towards 597 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: him and why he is rising because of his ability 598 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: to be able to be versatile and play safety. Also, 599 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: I like his game and I think it'll be better 600 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: in this league. This is the OTP Live Tour, sponsored 601 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: by Farm Bureau Health Plans. Better rates, better coverage, and 602 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: better service. That's why Tennessee's have been relying on Farm 603 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: Bureau Health Plans for their health coverage for seventy five years. 604 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: We're in Jackson, Tennessee, on the road with the OTP 605 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: at Hub City Brewing, enjoying a great afternoon talking football, 606 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: doing the OTP with the ot people at a great 607 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: location again, Hub City Brewing. It absolutely is a great location. 608 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: Let's talk about some safety, shall we, Because there are 609 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: nine on the coach Mac one fifty here. Kyle Hamilton 610 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: from Notre Dame Louis Sne from Georgia, Dax Hill from Michigan, 611 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: Jaquon Brisker from Penn State, Jalen Petrie from Baylor, Brian 612 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: Cook from Cincinnati, Rome McKinley from Oregon, Tyson Anderson from Toledo, 613 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: and J. T. Woods from Baylor. Of all the attention 614 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: that is on Kyle Hamilton at Notre Dame Mac, yes, 615 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about him. Flip to your 616 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: notebook to his page, jar and tell me about Kyle Hamilton, 617 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: because we hear so much about him six h four 618 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: or one two and twenty pounds. This is a very, 619 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: very versatile player. This is a guy that you're going 620 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: to be able to use in a lot of different ways. 621 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: A creative defensive coordinator will be able to take him 622 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: and match him. I think he's going to be a 623 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: nice man match on tight ends. We know how much 624 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: you know. Personnel in this league is one or two 625 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: tight ends that are used as receivers. You can drop 626 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: him down and match him. You can also drop him 627 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 1: down and play him in the run game. His speed, 628 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: straight ahead speed, just moving his hips and stuff. You're 629 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: not going to put him out there on a corner. 630 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: You're not going to isolate him on an Island. But 631 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: he's got great lapability. And what I talk about lapability 632 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: is it a safety plane in the middle of the field, 633 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: being able to get directional delivery keys off the quarterback. 634 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: He can cover a long space aground because of his instincts. 635 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: This guy he's going to go early in the draft. 636 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to go as early as 637 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: i've seen him, you know, early on, you know, in 638 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: the top five. I'm not sure that he does. If 639 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: he does, it wouldn't shock me. But he's going to 640 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: go in the first round. He's a very, very versatile player. 641 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: Plus he's really really intelligent football player. That's what you're 642 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: gonna get. So what it sounds like you're saying is 643 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: that his slowish forty times during time of this pre 644 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: draft process doesn't really bother you. That's not gonna bother 645 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: you if you go through and like all of his 646 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: other traits and also this Amy, if you look at 647 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: him and say, I know exactly how I want to 648 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: use him. If you're a defensive coordinator and you're a 649 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: defensive coach and the head coach comes in and says, 650 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: if we take Kyle Hamilton Amy, how are you going 651 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: to use him and you go bullet point one, two, three, 652 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: four five. Here's how I can use him. Here's how 653 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: we can use him against the people we're playing against. 654 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: That's what you'll do. Lewis Seen and Dax Hill are 655 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: both outstanding safety prospects Day two prospects who can produce 656 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: big return on investment. Ret Bryan Absolutely, Dax Hill is 657 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: probably the next safety on the board in my opinion, 658 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: just because you know, he just is physical. He has 659 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: a lot of toughness. He has a good football IQ 660 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: for one, talking about a guy another one that's a 661 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: long guy. He's over six feet but his wingspan is 662 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: almost eighty inches. Speed is there at four three eight 663 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: in the forty and he has all the explosive measurements. 664 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: Had a three cone drill of six and a half seconds, 665 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: just a little over that. I think that's a guy 666 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: that can certainly help you out. His older brother is 667 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: Justice Hill, the running back for the Baltimore Ravens, so 668 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: he's had somebody to lean on to get through this 669 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: process before he gets drafted here in a couple of weekends. 670 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: And Lewis Scene, that's a guy that is a very 671 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: interesting prospect. He grew up in Haiti was a soccer 672 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: player and was a track guy. Later on tried football. 673 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: That's another guy that is not slow of four three 674 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: seven in the forty and over eleven foot broad jump, 675 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: so's there's some skill set right there. And you know 676 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: he learned under a Hall of Famer. He had some 677 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: time with Deon Sanders when he was in high school 678 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: when Dion was an assistant at Trinity Christian. So yeah, 679 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: those two guys will I think would be the next 680 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: two off the board after Kyle Hamilton. I agree with that. 681 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: I think Dax Hill is the next guy off the 682 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 1: board because I think you can do more things with him. 683 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: I like Lewis scene really plays the game fast and 684 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: he's a violent player. And so both of these guys, 685 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: they're going to be really good contributing that They'll be 686 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: taken on the in the second round. They'll be taken 687 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: in the in the second day. Dax Hill's got a 688 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: chance to be taken in the first round. And so 689 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: to me, both of those guys are going to contribute early. 690 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: Mike Jalen Petrie is not the biggest safety, but I 691 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: was really impressed with him at the Senior Bowl. Kachmac 692 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: where do you think he fits in an NFL defense, 693 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: He'll play in your Big nichol is what he'll do. 694 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: You know, Big nichol is is a defensive package that 695 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: you use against the two tight end set that uses 696 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: those tight ends as receivers quite a bit. I think 697 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: he'll be able to do that quite a bit. He's 698 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: got athletic versatility. I'm just looking at my notes here 699 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: are aware. He's extremely extremely competitive on the tape on 700 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: a consistent basis. And so I think Jalen Petrie when 701 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: you if you put him on your team and you 702 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: put him on the field, you will notice him. He 703 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: will show up where the ball is. He did that 704 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. You watched him do that. I mean, 705 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: this guy just falls under the category of football player. 706 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: He will again be a nice scheme specific edition. Now 707 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: there are some that see Brian Cook from Cincinnati is 708 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: kind of a sleeper amongst the safety group. He's kind 709 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: of an old fashioned safety. Is he what you would 710 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: describe Brett as a thumper? He would be, and he's 711 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: a tackling machine to go with it. You're talking about 712 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: a guy it's still twenty three years old. When it 713 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 1: comes time to start his rookie season in the fall, 714 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: but he has five years of experience. He played two 715 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: years at Howard, transferred to Cincinnati and one of just 716 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: three or four guys to have nearly one hundred tackles 717 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: and ten pass breakups in twenty twenty one. That's a 718 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 1: tackling machine for you. And he yes, super physical, needs 719 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: more consistent and seeing his coverage. I mean his run defense. 720 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: He is an excellent, solid run defender. He's very, very physical, 721 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: excellent size and speed balance, that's what you need. He's 722 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: one year as a full season starter, so his best 723 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: games are still going to be in front of him. 724 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 1: But again, he's got the physical and the athletic traits 725 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: that as a coach in the National Football League you 726 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: love to get a hold of to develop. We are 727 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: pushing through this coach Mac one fifty like crazy, looking 728 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: at the positions. I end this edition of the OTP 729 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: from the Road with a question for each of you, 730 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: Rett first, and then coach Mac second. Ret would you 731 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: be surprised if the Titans selected a cornerback in the 732 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: first round at number twenty six? Absolutely not, and I'll 733 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: tell you why. First of all of four three defense 734 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: tends to eat up linebackers and even into the third 735 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: tier in the secondary, so you're always looking for improvement there. 736 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: I think your secondary is in pretty good ship. But 737 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 1: if you've got a guy sitting there that you cannot 738 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 1: refuse that can help you immediately, that would not surprise 739 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: me to see him take a corner back at twenties. 740 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: You can never have too many corners. You can never 741 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: have too many corners because you're playing subdefense most of 742 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 1: the time now in the National Football League. One type 743 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: three wides is a first down offense now in the 744 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: National Football League. And all your various packages. I mean, 745 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: we're at we're at practice every day, and you know 746 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: we're not giving away anything here that shouldn't be given 747 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: away because that's why they let us at practice, because 748 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: we don't talk about it what we see. But they've 749 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: got so many different defensive coverage package groups. You can 750 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: never have too many cover people. Dave McGinnis, would you 751 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: be surprised if the Titans selected as safety before day three? 752 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: A little bit. Yes. I think safety is a pretty 753 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: solid area for us. Safety is a really good area 754 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: for us right now. I would be a little bit 755 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: surprised by that, unless somebody's just unless somebody has fallen 756 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: for a reason that they really love. Again, cover people, 757 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 1: And I'm safety says cover people because as I said 758 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: to Ball, the buried packages. Yeah, because he's right. I mean, 759 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: you've got Kevin byrd al Monty Hooker came on very 760 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: nicely as a starter in the year three. You pick 761 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: up DJ Moore who can work in and out of 762 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: those packages and as a core special teams player that 763 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel knows very well in his time in Houston. 764 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: And I think it's the safety spot. You're good. But 765 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: you know, again, you can pick one up down the 766 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: road somewhere. That's a spot in late day two, late, 767 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, early day three where you might be able 768 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: to get something. But I think safety's pretty good. Maybe 769 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: we've covered a lot of ground. What has jumped out 770 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: to you about this edition of the OTP. There's a 771 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: lot of confusion over what the Tennessee Titans are going 772 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: to do. It seems to me that the Titans have 773 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of options when it comes to the 774 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two NFL Draft, And I think that's how 775 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: John Robinson likes it. I think you're fak I think 776 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: that might be intentional, and I think that's really exciting. 777 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: So I'm loving going through all of these position groups 778 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: in the Coach Mack one fifty because I love seeing 779 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,240 Speaker 1: all of the options. I think it just builds excitement 780 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 1: for the draft because we don't know what the Titans 781 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: are gonna do, and I think that's awesome. All right, 782 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: So in the next edition of the OTP from the 783 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: Road from the Coach Mac one fifty, the running backs 784 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: and the inside linebacker. Yes, Sir Mike Keys, are there 785 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 1: surprises in those groups. They're not really surprises, but there's 786 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: some interesting matchups and with Amy asking the great questions 787 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 1: that she does, there'll be some interesting conversations with that group. 788 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 1: All right, good stuff for our friend Kyle Spurgeon, who 789 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 1: is the president, yes, the CEO of the Jackson Chamber. 790 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: Thanking everyone who's here today, and also thanking Hub City 791 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: Brewing for having us back out for Amy Wells, Rhet 792 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: Brian Coach, Dave McGinnis, Ashley Farrell, and our entire team. 793 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: Mike Key, thanks you for being one of the ot 794 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: people at listing to the O team. Welcome to the 795 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: Big Show. Well the legends, I never boughten knows it's 796 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: our house, finding vol Tennessee, making history. Greatness is meant 797 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: to be