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Find out more 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: at Bloomberg law, dot Com and now another legal news 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the Department of Justice scaling 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: back the use of so called sneak and speak searches, 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: which forced technology companies to turn over customer data. For 23 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: more on this story, Bloomberg Law hosts June Grosso and 24 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: Michael Best speak to Jonathan Maines, a professor at University 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: of Buffalo School of Law, and Michael Carroll, director of 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: the Program on Information, Justice and Intellectual Property at American 27 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: University Washington College of Law. Michael, the government was getting 28 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: warrants for the information. Explain Microsoft and the other tech 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: giants objections. Sure. Under the law that was passed back 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: in six UM there's a provision that says when the 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: government gets UM an order and there are three flavors 32 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: of orders to get information from one of these internet 33 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: service providers, they can also require this service provider not 34 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: to notify the subscriber or anyone else and the Department 35 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: of Justice. According to a lawsuit, Microsoft file had in 36 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: a fifty hundred of these orders they had received in 37 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: about twenty six and hundred of those they were required 38 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: to basically be gagged not to tell anyone else UM. 39 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: So this was a, this was a widespread commonplace practice 40 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: that the Department of Justice is reviewed and now issued 41 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: a new guidance that complete that cuts back significantly on 42 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: this silencing um of of the of the tech companies. Jonathan, 43 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: this is a I mean, it's sort of interesting here. 44 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: You've got these orders that are very broad that Microsoft 45 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: suit over them. But how legally could the government get 46 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: away with doing order after order that kept this that 47 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: kept these searches so secret? Yeah, you know that. The 48 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: trouble here is that the law of Congress paths authorizing 49 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: these secrecy orders was extremely permissive. I mean it still is. Actually, 50 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: the statute on the book hasn't changed. Um. What's changed 51 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: here is that d o J is sort of agreeing 52 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: to limit itself. Um. And there's basically two two big 53 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: changes here. You know. One they're they're now saying that 54 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: secrecy orders, these gag orders aren't generally gonna last forever. Um. 55 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: They typically will only last for up to one year. 56 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: And the other the other big changes that they're now 57 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: going to give the judge specific reasons why they want 58 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: a gag order and not just submits sort of boiler 59 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: plate requests that don't actually explain to the judge, the 60 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: reason the government wants secrecy. The trouble is is that 61 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: the law actually hasn't been changed, so it's still much 62 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: too easy to get these gag orders in my opinion. 63 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: That's Jonathan Mains, a professor at University of Buffalo School 64 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: of Law, and Michael Carroll from the American University Washington 65 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: College of Law, speaking to Bloomberg's June Grosso and Michael Best. 66 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: You can listen to Bloomberg Law with Days at one 67 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: pm Moll Street Time here on Bloomberg Radio, and find 68 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: more legal news at Bloomberglaw dot com. 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