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Speaker 3: handle the DP Show. Also the Big Unit. Randy Johnson,
Speaker 3: who wants won four consecutive cy Young Awards in the
Speaker 3: history of awards. I mean, that's a long stretch to
Speaker 3: win the same award, and it's and it's a big award,
Speaker 3: It's it's the most important award a pitcher can win.
Speaker 3: But in all of sports MVPs, how many times do
Speaker 3: you have somebody win four consecutive awards like that? Now?
Speaker 3: I think Greg Maddox won four consecutive cy youngs, one
Speaker 3: with Chicago and then three with Atlanta, but win four
Speaker 3: in a row normally, and as a voter former voter
Speaker 3: in the NBA, you are looking for a reason to
Speaker 3: vote for somebody else. You're like, Ah, that guy's won
Speaker 3: it the last couple of times, let's vote for somebody else.
Speaker 3: He was so good that even if they tried to
Speaker 3: bring in somebody else as a candidate that Randy Johnson
Speaker 3: won four consecutive cy Youngs. It just doesn't happen that
Speaker 3: often where you see somebody at that kind of level
Speaker 3: and maintain that level, and then the voters continued to
Speaker 3: vote for him.
Speaker 4: Yes, Pauline, Randy Johnson got his first cy Young in
Speaker 4: ninety five at age thirty one. Then he had a
Speaker 4: couple of nice years, but then at age thirty five,
Speaker 4: thirty six, thirty seven, thirty eight, he won four in
Speaker 4: a row. Maddox had four in a row, like you said,
Speaker 4: Roger Clemens has seven and he won them in three
Speaker 4: different decades.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yike, Yeah, I've been under a cloud of suspicion there.
Speaker 4: Randy Johnson actually started his career his first year in
Speaker 4: the pros. He was seven and thirteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was seven feet thirteen inches too. You know,
Speaker 3: we had never seen anybody that height, you know, six ' ten.
Speaker 3: But you're delivering the ball, so sixty feet six inches.
Speaker 3: But by the time he winds up he delivers, he's
Speaker 3: thrown that ball at fifty feet and just and here's
Speaker 3: another thing, and I want to ask him about this.
Speaker 3: It used to be a big deal where you brought
Speaker 3: in a lefty to face a lefty? Okay, aren't we
Speaker 3: past that that? You know, like, we don't go, oh,
Speaker 3: it's a right hander against a right hander. And I
Speaker 3: know that we grow up and you know there's more
Speaker 3: familiarity facing a right handed pitcher. But aren't we to
Speaker 3: the point where we don't go, boy, lefty on lefty?
Speaker 3: Haven't we advanced enough where a left handed hitter doesn't go, oh,
Speaker 3: my god, it's a left handed pitcher. I got to
Speaker 3: ask him about that. Yes, is it possible?
Speaker 4: Randy Johnson's all time underrated because of him? Is we
Speaker 4: talk about his height and the bird and the pitching
Speaker 4: with the john Crux stuff he had. He led the
Speaker 4: league in strikeouts I got nine times. And he did
Speaker 4: it at age forty and age twenty eight, and like
Speaker 4: you said, zero cloud of suspicion, but he.
Speaker 2: Won the cy young.
Speaker 3: He led the American League in strikeouts four consecutive years.
Speaker 3: He just learned how to pitch later in his career
Speaker 3: because when he was in Montreal, it was he was
Speaker 3: nuke lelouche. If you're you know, a fan of Bull Durham.
Speaker 3: He could throw hard. He just didn't know where he
Speaker 3: was throwing it, but to learn how to pitch. And
Speaker 3: the fact that you would have guys who would openly
Speaker 3: talk about not wanting to face Randy Johnson. You know,
Speaker 3: guys would you know, privately probably say I don't want
Speaker 3: to face that guy.
Speaker 2: I'm not feeling that good today.
Speaker 3: Randy Johnson was so scary that you had guys who
Speaker 3: openly admitted they did not want to face Randy Johnson.
Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 3: coming up tonight, Vikings at the Rams. As I've spoken
Speaker 3: about the last two days, I think there's a lot
Speaker 3: more riding on this game for the Rams than just
Speaker 3: a victory or a loss. Are you going to be
Speaker 3: sellers if you lose this game? The Vikings are favored
Speaker 3: by two and a half. Also, Syracuse in Pitt is
Speaker 3: Pitt undefeated?
Speaker 2: Yeah wow with those uniforms.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then you got NBA full slate of NBA openers
Speaker 3: and load management is already an issue. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: why the seventy six ers and Joe Ellenbiid said, hey,
Speaker 3: he's not going to play back to back games.
Speaker 2: The NBA is looking into that.
Speaker 3: You want to have availability, like you can't lose the
Speaker 3: trust of your audience where they go who's playing?
Speaker 2: Wait are they going to be playing?
Speaker 3: We brought this up six years ago and I think
Speaker 3: some places have used this, and that is a star
Speaker 3: player insurance, Like there should be insurance with your tickets.
Speaker 3: If you're going to buy let's say you're buying Nick
Speaker 3: tickets and Lebron's coming to town and that's a Christmas gift,
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden Lebron's not going to play,
Speaker 3: then there should be some There should be an opportunity
Speaker 3: for you to get your money back or get a
Speaker 3: credit for another game. You can go to that game
Speaker 3: and we'll give you credit for another game. Whatever it is,
Speaker 3: just because you know the audience, the fans want to
Speaker 3: know who's playing. Kawhy's not going to play for who
Speaker 3: knows how many games, so you know that. Here's Joe Ellenbiid.
Speaker 3: He didn't play in the opener, so it's not even
Speaker 3: a back to back. I mean, did they have a
Speaker 3: preseason game that he played in and then he like,
Speaker 3: you're not available for the opener? Are you going to
Speaker 3: be available for the next game because you didn't play
Speaker 3: in the last game, and here is one of the
Speaker 3: top five, top seven players in the game. And yes,
Speaker 3: I did propose this. I know that there were players
Speaker 3: who were not happy with me when I proposed it
Speaker 3: to the commissioner on the show, I said, you have
Speaker 3: to have first. Thing I said is no more positions
Speaker 3: for all NBA. That's not fair. And I called it
Speaker 3: the Rudy Gobert rule because Rudy Gobert is not one
Speaker 3: of the top fifteen players in the game. He shouldn't
Speaker 3: be first team All NBA because you got to have
Speaker 3: a center. I said to the commissioner, that's silly. And
Speaker 3: the commissioner did change that. Now, maybe I had a
Speaker 3: role in it, maybe I didn't. I did tell him
Speaker 3: you have to have a certain number of games that
Speaker 3: you must play to qualify for these awards, sixty five games.
Speaker 3: That means you're going to miss seventeen games. All right,
Speaker 3: it's not an unheard of total, but I want the
Speaker 3: best players to be on display.
Speaker 2: I mean, the.
Speaker 3: NFL has seventeen games. You know, unless they're injured, you're
Speaker 3: seeing your star players. Baseball, it's one hundred and sixty
Speaker 3: two It used to be a big deal when somebody
Speaker 3: would say, oh, uh, we're gonna give him a day off,
Speaker 3: like they'd even announce it. We're gonna give such a
Speaker 3: Johnny Bench has caught seven games in a row.
Speaker 2: We're gonna give him a day off.
Speaker 3: But he's gonna play first base in the NBA, Like
Speaker 3: I'm are you surprised. I'm never surprised when somebody said, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, a healthy scratch.
Speaker 2: You know we're gonna give him a day off.
Speaker 3: But it's still you want to have availability, you want
Speaker 3: to have the audience has to have trust in your product.
Speaker 3: And this is a real issue for Adam Silver. But
Speaker 3: there's so much money at stake for the all NBA
Speaker 3: that I mean, you've got to tough it out. There
Speaker 3: are times when you maybe don't want to play. You're
Speaker 3: banged up a little bit, Okay, like you know back
Speaker 3: in the day you played.
Speaker 2: Now it's like I don't have to what's the owner
Speaker 2: going to do?
Speaker 3: Like does Philadelphia pay Joe ellenbid half his salary? Is
Speaker 3: he taking a salary cut because of this? And I
Speaker 3: know he's had all of these injuries. Okay, now you're
Speaker 3: gonna play half the games yeah, Mart.
Speaker 5: And I think for other teams, like say, if you're
Speaker 5: Detroit Ortlanta, that might not sell out a lot. If
Speaker 5: the Lakers are coming to town, you're like, hey, at
Speaker 5: least we know we'll get one sellout this year. And
Speaker 5: then you hear Lebron's not playing, like, yeah, god, we
Speaker 5: were depending on that. That's like when Michael Jordan would
Speaker 5: go to Vancouver one time of year, he knew how
Speaker 5: important he was. He knew that place was gonna sell
Speaker 5: it because he was there. And so if it's if
Speaker 5: I'm one of those players, like you got to kind
Speaker 5: of think about the away audience too, because it's one
Speaker 5: time a year where they go across country to see you.
Speaker 3: And I always gave credit to Jordan because Jordan understood
Speaker 3: that they're coming to see him. And he even talked
Speaker 3: about how he'd get dressed up when he would walk
Speaker 3: into the lobby in a hotel. He always wanted to
Speaker 3: look great because he said that that might be the
Speaker 3: only time you get to see him. He understood it. Now,
Speaker 3: not everybody does. Not everybody nobody else is wired the
Speaker 3: way Mike was, but he did understand playing and wanting
Speaker 3: to play. I could never be a healthy scratch. I
Speaker 3: just there's no way I could just sit there and
Speaker 3: watch a game. I just that'd be death. But having
Speaker 3: these players and I know, okay, modern travel, like the
Speaker 3: finest facilities, trainers, all of this stuff, and they play
Speaker 3: less than the guys who had to fly commercial. The
Speaker 3: guys who didn't have these luxuries. Now they might say,
Speaker 3: we didn't really have an option. Okay, they've taken advantage
Speaker 3: of a loophole here, and it's unfortunate because the regular
Speaker 3: season does not matter. There'll be games, matchups that you go, oh,
Speaker 3: I want to watch that one, but it's not must
Speaker 3: see TV because you don't know if somebody's going to
Speaker 3: play or not.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, it feels like it's the It goes against
Speaker 6: the competitive spirit that you have to have as an
Speaker 6: elite athlete, is to be able to sit and say
Speaker 6: I'm just going to take tonight off, even though I
Speaker 6: know it's a business.
Speaker 2: I know there's, like.
Speaker 6: You said, all the travel and everything, but it feels
Speaker 6: like you can't get to that same height without having
Speaker 6: this crazy competitive side to you. And then all of
Speaker 6: a sudden that just evaporates for a day because you're like, ah.
Speaker 2: I'm just not going to do it today.
Speaker 3: But the NBA has made the season longer, so you
Speaker 3: have more rest days in between games. Right, they haven't
Speaker 3: added to their schedule. It's still eighty two games. I mean,
Speaker 3: the NFL was going to add yet another game to
Speaker 3: the most violent sport. Baseball's still been one sixty two.
Speaker 3: There was talking maybe one fifty four, bringing it back
Speaker 3: to what it used to be. But I just you know,
Speaker 3: having that insurance ticket insurance I think is important, and
Speaker 3: you know, hopefully the league embraces that where you at
Speaker 3: least allow the fan to have some kind of insurance
Speaker 3: if a star player. But I don't know where the
Speaker 3: cutoff is on who is this star player and who's not,
Speaker 3: because if Chris Middleton doesn't play for the Bucks, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: you don't get your money back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 4: There are a couple of different ticket portals that do this.
Speaker 4: Probably the best one that I've seen is called fan Sure,
Speaker 4: and you pick a game you're going to and you're
Speaker 4: buying the tickets through them, and you could protect your
Speaker 4: ticket up to one hundred percent of the value. So
Speaker 4: let's say you've got a seventy six ers ticket and
Speaker 4: you walk in that day, and you've insured it for
Speaker 4: just a couple bucks extra. It's like a service fee.
Speaker 4: For one you could still attend the game. But if
Speaker 4: you walk in and it's announced Joel Embiid is a scratch,
Speaker 4: you get one hundred percent of your ticket price back,
Speaker 4: not the fee, and then you get to still watch
Speaker 4: the game. They also have a list of players you
Speaker 4: could buy Protection four and it's probably I would say
Speaker 4: the thirty five forty best players.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, that many, Yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at probably about thirty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Seaton.
Speaker 6: I know I'm going to sound super naive with all this,
Speaker 6: or maybe just like an idiot, but but part of
Speaker 6: the problem with everything that we're talking about with load
Speaker 6: management and all this stuff is that going to games
Speaker 6: is just too damn expensive. It's way too much money.
Speaker 6: And if I paid fifty bucks for a ticket and
Speaker 6: Lebron didn't show up, you're like, ah, man, that stinks,
Speaker 6: But I gotta pay two hundred and fifty dollars for
Speaker 6: a ticket now, it's like it's my whole day.
Speaker 2: The parking is seventy five dollars and everything.
Speaker 6: It's way too expensive and you're only drawing from the
Speaker 6: same group of people that can actually afford to go. Rather,
Speaker 6: you're pricing out most of the population on almost every
Speaker 6: major league sport, I could.
Speaker 3: Buy an eighty inch flat screen for what it would
Speaker 3: cost for me to take four people to the game easily,
Speaker 3: like park Easily, I could get an eighty inch flat
Speaker 3: screen instead of going to the game.
Speaker 2: And those are bad seats. Yes, Ton, the TV would
Speaker 2: even less.
Speaker 7: These days, TVs are really cheap. You probably a cheaper
Speaker 7: to get the TV and to do that, thank you
Speaker 7: to What other customer transaction exist besides sports and entertainment,
Speaker 7: like a Broadway show star that's sick and can't perform
Speaker 7: that night, where we the customer accept something like that.
Speaker 7: If you have to pay in advance to go to
Speaker 7: a restaurant or pick up a certain product, and then
Speaker 7: when you get there they're like, oh, we don't have that,
Speaker 7: that's his the second, third, or fourth best thing. It's like, no,
Speaker 7: I paid for that, and they're not going to give
Speaker 7: you any money back. You just have to accept whatever's
Speaker 7: left in the store.
Speaker 2: So I'm sorry, what's your point? So why do we
Speaker 2: accept this as fans?
Speaker 7: There's no other line of work or a transaction where
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I guess that's the way it goes. I
Speaker 7: spent all that money and Lebron's not playing.
Speaker 2: Oh well, okay, I looked it up.
Speaker 4: If you go to a Broadway play and the understudy
Speaker 4: is in it, you do not get any discount on
Speaker 4: your ticket or your ticket back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: If you go on United Airlines and the backup pilot
Speaker 4: is there that day.
Speaker 2: You don't get it. How do you know the backup pilot?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 2: You could tell.
Speaker 3: How many times have you gone into a really nice
Speaker 3: restaurant and you say, is uh is David Chang here?
Speaker 7: But the or wanted you to pay in advance because
Speaker 7: you really like the chicken?
Speaker 3: His arm is chef George here? When's the last time
Speaker 3: you ask is the chef there?
Speaker 2: George?
Speaker 6: When's the last time you went to a restaurant where
Speaker 6: you actually knew who the chef was?
Speaker 2: I've done that. I know you do that. I do that. Yes,
Speaker 2: I've done that. I've done that. Yeah, But I don't
Speaker 2: walk in and say.
Speaker 3: To the major d is chef George?
Speaker 6: Where do you want to go tonight David's place?
Speaker 2: Or I don't know, Maybe we'll just stick with George.
Speaker 6: Yeah, George, Yes, yes, I got us the table.
Speaker 7: To the backup pilot point. Wouldn't you be a little
Speaker 7: concerned or upset or nervous if someone Hi, this is Brian,
Speaker 7: I'm the backup pilot announced that.
Speaker 2: I should definitely not announce that.
Speaker 7: I don't want to hear that.
Speaker 2: Well, wait a minute, you just said that.
Speaker 3: You don't you know, you shouldn't be paying that price
Speaker 3: if you have the backup.
Speaker 2: Do you want to know what the backup pilot is?
Speaker 2: Take king over.
Speaker 7: I don't want to hear somebody saying, Hey, we're flying
Speaker 7: at thirty thousand feet.
Speaker 5: I'm Doug.
Speaker 7: By the way, I'm killing it at the last minute.
Speaker 7: Joe is usually does this flight is not here.
Speaker 2: But if Doug's there, he must be a good pilot.
Speaker 2: But he's a backup because but he's there.
Speaker 6: But to Dan's point, you didn't choose that flight because
Speaker 6: Doug was flying.
Speaker 2: And now you're like, oh, Correc Dougs out here the.
Speaker 4: Three fifteen on United, Doug's flying.
Speaker 2: Oh, let's good that.
Speaker 3: They should give us rosters of the pilots, like there
Speaker 3: should be YELP reviews. There should be like Jimmy Lpper
Speaker 3: six four two twenty five former decathlete at Oregon. Uh
Speaker 3: he is has flown X number of flights, Shaky on landing,
Speaker 3: really good on takeoff, and he's always on time. Yet
Speaker 3: to be drunk yet Sailoa to Jimmy Lipper, you're pilot,
Speaker 3: you can have you can have the program.
Speaker 2: Who do we have? Who do we have? Hunt? We
Speaker 2: have Jimmy skun yield, Jimmy scunjeal no worse landing?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, turbulence turbulence.
Speaker 7: What happens when the flight attendant pronounces it Desmonet is
Speaker 7: if they can't even pronounce the name right the staff
Speaker 7: of where you're going.
Speaker 2: That's good. That was a flight attendant still.
Speaker 7: Though, come on, the staff's got to know where you
Speaker 7: got I know.
Speaker 3: But it didn't affect me when I go, oh my god,
Speaker 3: she doesn't know how to pronounce.
Speaker 2: He's going down for sure. And she said it so confidently.
Speaker 3: We will be stopping in Chicago and then we will
Speaker 3: be in route to des Monette, and Paulie and I
Speaker 3: are right next to her, and I wanted to say
Speaker 3: it's the Moin, it's de Moin, but she was so
Speaker 3: it was like, and then we'll be going to des Monett.
Speaker 4: I talked to you out of it because it was
Speaker 4: a great bit.
Speaker 3: I know, I go, I gotta say something, and then
Speaker 3: Paul goes, no, no, no, just leave it, just leave it
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Speaker 6: Would you cheer or boo a lot louder at a
Speaker 6: game simply to win a free sandwich.
Speaker 2: Like the Clippers did last night?
Speaker 6: Yes, anything for free or no, it's not really important
Speaker 6: to me.
Speaker 2: This is from.
Speaker 6: Todd right now. Yes, anything for free is winning. It
Speaker 6: has about fifty seven percent of the vote.
Speaker 3: I just don't like when they have to coax the audience,
Speaker 3: the fans to cheer, like get up, you know, louder
Speaker 3: whatever they put up on the jumbo tron. But if
Speaker 3: you missed two consecutive free throws at the Clippers home games,
Speaker 3: like Durant did last night, you everybody gets Chick fil a.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it does kind of bug me when it's like,
Speaker 6: look at this organic fan atmosphere and everyone's holding up
Speaker 6: the same chicken sign. Yes, yes, we're here because we
Speaker 6: love the team.
Speaker 4: I disagree. I think they should go even deeper on
Speaker 4: this one. Like the T shirt gun. They should had
Speaker 4: the Chick fil a Chicken sandwich gun. Oh you just
Speaker 4: shooting chicken sandwiches into the crowd, Pickles and sauce all over.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 3: Christopher mad Dog Russo, host of mad Dog Unleashed on
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Speaker 3: on MLB Network and contributor to First Take on the ESPN.
Speaker 3: You gotta love this world series. This is right up
Speaker 3: your alley. This is old school. You're going to get
Speaker 3: the entire Dodger infield probably on the show.
Speaker 9: Ron say good morning Danny.
Speaker 10: Ron.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, did you give any thought to your hair today?
Speaker 9: I know I didn't. I know that time.
Speaker 2: I wait, but your wife helps you, doesn't she?
Speaker 9: You know she's away right now.
Speaker 8: My children on the West Coast, so I don't have
Speaker 8: and I can't ask my daughter Kira to do my makeup.
Speaker 8: So osre's ot. I came up here and I know
Speaker 8: that you guys put it up last time. I look,
Speaker 8: I can, but I mean, I figured out what the
Speaker 8: heck for you. I just want to come on and chat.
Speaker 8: I did have Ron say on yesterday at the top
Speaker 8: of the show, and you know, partly Fernando who passed away,
Speaker 8: and partly because of those Yankee Dodgers series, and he
Speaker 8: was still very aggravated when Reggie Jackson stuck out his hip.
Speaker 8: You remember that in game four of the seventy eight
Speaker 8: World Series had changed the whole game. Dodgers were up
Speaker 8: two games to one at the time they ended up
Speaker 8: losing in six games.
Speaker 9: It was still ticked off by that.
Speaker 8: But you know the amazing thing about this World Series
Speaker 8: when you think about it, damn, there's two things. One,
Speaker 8: you know, they've been in the playoffs, these two franchises
Speaker 8: before this year twelve times at the same time together
Speaker 8: and this is the first time in thirteen they both
Speaker 8: made the World Series, which I find interesting since nineteen
Speaker 8: eighty one, and I find that interesting. And the second
Speaker 8: thing that's interesting here Edmonton, when I lost to Florida,
Speaker 8: what are you gonna do? They had a great year,
Speaker 8: Dallas when I lost the Celtics way you're gonna do.
Speaker 9: They had a great year.
Speaker 8: You know, most of the time, if you get to
Speaker 8: a Super Bowl, you get to an NBA Final, you
Speaker 8: get to a World Series. The Mets had a great year,
Speaker 8: the Guardians had a good year. Not the case in
Speaker 8: this World Series the loser because of their payroll, Because
Speaker 8: of the fact the Yankees have a won in fifteen years,
Speaker 8: the Dodgers only won that pandemic in forty years. You
Speaker 8: can make the argument the loser year is going to
Speaker 8: be bitterly disappointed. So I think that makes for a
Speaker 8: fascinating World Series. And I also think it's very close.
Speaker 8: You can make a case of the Dodgers. You can
Speaker 8: make a case of the Yankees. I don't think there's
Speaker 8: a prohibited favorite in this World Series, so they should
Speaker 8: have length and drama.
Speaker 3: We had the commissioner on yesterday and I said he
Speaker 3: deserved a victory. Lamp I think baseball had a really
Speaker 3: good year. If you look at how we were starting
Speaker 3: the year with Otani, with the gambling situation, and then
Speaker 3: you end up with Dodgers Yankees in the World Series,
Speaker 3: how would you rank the season that Baseball had excellent?
Speaker 9: Point? You know, they had drama, late in the year
Speaker 9: with the wild card.
Speaker 8: You know, Otani has their record woman's year judge, it's
Speaker 8: fifty something home runs. They would never admit it, but
Speaker 8: Yankees and Dodgers is better than Guardians and Mets. So
Speaker 8: from that standpoint, they got drama there. You know, they
Speaker 8: had a very good performance at the rick Wood Stadium
Speaker 8: when Willie Mays passed away with the game down there
Speaker 8: in Alabama where Willie played, So that turned out. Do
Speaker 8: they do a great job at that field, the Dreams
Speaker 8: and you know the Williams Port games. You know they
Speaker 8: do an excellent job of that. I agree with you, Danny,
Speaker 8: and I think you're the expert with this. Last year
Speaker 8: the World Series with Arizona and Texas, they didn't do
Speaker 8: that well. You know, nine to ten million the average.
Speaker 8: I would think this World Series, if it goes length deep,
Speaker 8: I got to figure what fifteen.
Speaker 9: Eighteen million on the average.
Speaker 8: You would be the better rate judge of that because
Speaker 8: you know the ratings game better than I do.
Speaker 2: What your thoughts.
Speaker 3: I hope that you're approaching fifteen million. I hope that
Speaker 3: that's sort of where we start. You can't ask for
Speaker 3: a better matchup because you have you know you have Otani,
Speaker 3: you have the Dodgers, you have the Yankees, and you
Speaker 3: have a judge. And you know this is worldwide too
Speaker 3: when you bring in Otani, now it's worldwide. Now. I
Speaker 3: know you don't get credit for those ratings in Japan,
Speaker 3: but this will be a monstrous rating as well. But
Speaker 3: it's good for baseball that moreyes are on this. I
Speaker 3: think there's a younger demo watching. I think the game
Speaker 3: now it's sped up. Now there's movement, Stolen bases are back.
Speaker 3: It just feels like there's a lot of momentum there.
Speaker 3: And I know we're going to go to the automatic
Speaker 3: balls and strikes here, and the commissioner said that in
Speaker 3: the next four years we're going to have some version
Speaker 3: of that. I don't And he even said, you got
Speaker 3: to get past the first month when you have changed,
Speaker 3: whether it's the size of the bases or the pitch clock.
Speaker 3: Once you get past the first thirty day, nobody brought
Speaker 3: up the pitch clock, nobody's brought up base none of that.
Speaker 3: Nobody Now we accept and I think the big key,
Speaker 3: the big jump, is going to be automatic balls and
Speaker 3: strikes over the next couple of years.
Speaker 8: Be interesting if they do a challenge system with that,
Speaker 8: or if they actually have the automated scenario that.
Speaker 3: I think he talked about, there would be a challenge
Speaker 3: scenario attached to this.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so I mean that will be interesting.
Speaker 8: And I know, listen, I don't love that, But okay,
Speaker 8: they want to go use technology for it, let them
Speaker 8: do it.
Speaker 3: But you're a tennis fan, Chris, you want to get
Speaker 3: the calls right. They've mastered it. That's I mean, can
Speaker 3: you like it in tennis and not like it in baseball?
Speaker 9: Fair point? The fair point. I guess you could make
Speaker 9: that argument.
Speaker 8: I mean, in tennis, you also can make an argument
Speaker 8: that a line call is much more significant than it
Speaker 8: would be a ball and strike call on a second inning.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 8: I mean you can make that argument that the decision
Speaker 8: with line calls from a three or a five set
Speaker 8: match are more important than a ball and strike call
Speaker 8: in a bottom of the third.
Speaker 9: So that's the argument I would make.
Speaker 8: And I also don't want to huge delay, but I
Speaker 8: understand that I do like the human element. See, the
Speaker 8: other thing is there is an apple, there's a there's
Speaker 8: a there's some charm to the umpire with balls and strikes.
Speaker 8: There's no charm to a lines person making a call.
Speaker 8: So I think that so I'm not in love with it.
Speaker 8: But listen, I can't argue with the scenario, with the
Speaker 8: situation with the pitch, with the pitch clock, and it
Speaker 8: moved quick on everything else. But I think a very
Speaker 8: very good World Series. I think the big edge the
Speaker 8: yankeesaff Danny is they got a better starting rotation. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I mean, I got five or six pitchers. The Dodgers
Speaker 8: don't really have that. Dodgers have other advantages, but the
Speaker 8: Yankee advantage in the rotation, to me, gives them a
Speaker 8: little ledge. Now I could not I would not be
Speaker 8: shocked if the Dodgers won. Here's the thing I would
Speaker 8: be shocked at. I would be very surprised if this
Speaker 8: goes in less than six games. I can there's going
Speaker 8: to be a ball game a week from Friday night,
Speaker 8: Game six at Dodgers Stadium.
Speaker 9: Somebody's up three to two. I would say that.
Speaker 3: We're talking to Christopher mad Dog Russo you were doing
Speaker 3: high heat yesterday on MLB I think yesterday this week,
Speaker 3: and you had Brian Cashman on the Yankee GM. I'm
Speaker 3: going to play your question and then here's his answer.
Speaker 8: Give me your thoughts here fun of getting back and
Speaker 8: winning a pennant after a fifteen year I don't want
Speaker 8: to say drought.
Speaker 2: That's not fair.
Speaker 9: But you want to say what I'm saying with the gap?
Speaker 9: How about winning a pennant?
Speaker 2: How does that mean to you?
Speaker 9: It means a lot.
Speaker 2: And I hate the fifteen year thing because it doesn't.
Speaker 11: It completely forgets some discounts that some other organization cheated
Speaker 11: us when we were all the way in the end.
Speaker 11: You know, if you knew what was going on, I
Speaker 11: don't think they would be a dancing at that during
Speaker 11: that time thing. I think we would have been advancing.
Speaker 11: So I hate that fifteen year thing because I don't
Speaker 11: think it accurately reflects history.
Speaker 2: Okay, is Brian being fair to the word cheating?
Speaker 8: Always nuts? First off, Brian's forgetting two other about four things.
Speaker 8: The Astros beat the Yankees in twenty and fifteen. The
Speaker 8: Astros beat the Yankees in two and nineteen. The Astros
Speaker 8: beat the Yankees in two thousand and and then they
Speaker 8: beat him again two years ago in four straight games.
Speaker 8: So the Astros eliminated the Yankees in three other rounds
Speaker 8: in three other years number two. If you be fair
Speaker 8: about it, what did the Yankees hit in that series
Speaker 8: against Houston? They hit about one sixty. What did the
Speaker 8: Yankees hit with runners in scoring position in that well
Speaker 8: in that seven game series, they hit about one eighty five.
Speaker 8: I understand he's frustrated. I understand that. You know, maybe
Speaker 8: there was a scenario where the Yankees, you know, you
Speaker 8: can I know the Astros shooting is a is a
Speaker 8: joke and they should have been punished as they were.
Speaker 9: But remember in Game seven, the Yankees pitched C. C. Sabbathia.
Speaker 8: I mean he was old and he was shot at
Speaker 8: that point of Hall of Famer, So I mean, it's
Speaker 8: not like the Yankees pitched you know, Whitey Ford.
Speaker 9: And for someone god the reason, he gave up eight
Speaker 9: runs in the first in it.
Speaker 8: I know the Yankees feel that way. I know the
Speaker 8: Dodgers feel that way. The Dodgers in the World Series
Speaker 8: lost that year in seven games. They had Dodgers lost
Speaker 8: two games at home that year in a World Series
Speaker 8: at the Astros cheat in Dodger Stadium, the add Fields.
Speaker 8: Also that year in a World Series in Game two
Speaker 8: they trailed and they buried Jansen in the ninth inning
Speaker 8: to win the game.
Speaker 9: So well did the Astros cheat when he happened when
Speaker 9: the Dodgers had a blown safe. I understand Bryan's frust. Jason,
Speaker 9: he's a great general manager.
Speaker 8: I think that's a little unfair to pin the seventeen
Speaker 8: loss on the idea that the Yankees were jobbed. When
Speaker 8: the Yankees in that World Series in Houston hit one fifty,
Speaker 8: they hit one fifty to twenty runs in four games,
Speaker 8: they lost two nothing to one.
Speaker 9: Erlander beat him.
Speaker 8: So I think it's a little misleading when the Yankees
Speaker 8: bring that up and it's still sore as you can say,
Speaker 8: the Yankees are still ticked off about the seventeen World Series,
Speaker 8: about the seventeen ALCS.
Speaker 3: I didn't see this that I read it where you
Speaker 3: kind of dismissed the brownni Ron James concocted scratch, what.
Speaker 9: A waste of time that is? Yes, I think that's
Speaker 9: so stupid.
Speaker 8: That is so dan, that is so artificial, that is
Speaker 8: so I mean, come on, he had one rebound in
Speaker 8: three minutes.
Speaker 9: He's going to be in the G League in about
Speaker 9: a week. You know, they listen.
Speaker 8: Lebron is a wonderful player, and I understand that Lakers
Speaker 8: are trying to make sure that he is motivated and
Speaker 8: he's galvanized, and it meant something to him.
Speaker 9: So I understand that. But I walk around town all
Speaker 9: the time.
Speaker 8: I did not have one person tell me, wow, did
Speaker 8: you see that Bronni played with Lebron last night? The
Speaker 8: American sports fan could care less. Let's be fair and
Speaker 8: don't compare it to Griffy. I looked it up when
Speaker 8: Ken Griffy played with his son with Seattle. You know,
Speaker 8: he hit three to zero six that year, and he
Speaker 8: and one year and then another year he had a
Speaker 8: three eighty batting average. Griffy could still hit when he
Speaker 8: was forty one years of age. Bronn, he's not an
Speaker 8: NBA player right now. The Lakers did this to pass
Speaker 8: by Lebron, which I understand. He's the second greatest player
Speaker 8: of all time. It meant something to him. Okay, but
Speaker 8: don't try to convince the American sports fan that this
Speaker 8: is a big deal that Lebron played with his kid
Speaker 8: and it's the first effort, because I think it's fake.
Speaker 9: That's my take. I know a lot of people disagree.
Speaker 9: That's my take.
Speaker 3: Okay, your son's just starting out in the business. He
Speaker 3: doesn't warrant being on a big stage. But let's say
Speaker 3: you say to management, I'd like to do a radio
Speaker 3: show with my son on Sirius XCM.
Speaker 9: Well, I wouldn't say that, but I understand what your
Speaker 9: point is.
Speaker 8: I wouldn't say that because these jobs are very difficult
Speaker 8: to get and I think that that advantage of him
Speaker 8: wouldn't be be unfair.
Speaker 9: So I would not tell. You know, bosses, hey, do
Speaker 9: me a favor.
Speaker 8: Make sure Colin Russo gets on serious and does a
Speaker 8: once a week show with me. I swear to God,
Speaker 8: you can tell anybody that in West Palm, I wouldn't
Speaker 8: say that. Okay, And I'll say this, and I'll say
Speaker 8: this right now. Well, I won't say that because that
Speaker 8: will get.
Speaker 2: Me in trouble. Your wife's out of town, you can't
Speaker 2: get in I say it.
Speaker 9: I'll say it.
Speaker 8: Colin Well, on a radio perspective, he is better at
Speaker 8: what he does right.
Speaker 9: Now then Bronnie is what he does?
Speaker 2: Has that.
Speaker 9: I'll say that all sorts of confidence.
Speaker 8: Okay, I just think to me it was You don't
Speaker 8: think that was a little artificial, Yes.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the whole draft was artificial.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you are yeah, yeah, but I still think
Speaker 3: it was pretty cool that they were able to pull
Speaker 3: this off. Now, Bronnie is a g lead player, and
Speaker 3: but this is this was just a Lebron If it
Speaker 3: keeps Lebron engaged, Chris, yeah, I understand he's one of
Speaker 3: the top ten players in the game at age twenty, yes,
Speaker 3: twenty two years in that it means that he's going
Speaker 3: to be excited still playing. If I'm a Laker fan
Speaker 3: or the end, like, I want Lebron still in the
Speaker 3: game playing at a very high level at some point,
Speaker 3: excellent point, and Bronnie should go. This is what I
Speaker 3: think is going to happen. Bronnie's twelfth man. He got in,
Speaker 3: he'll get seasoned in the G the G League, and
Speaker 3: then they'll bringing up probably for the Christmas Day game.
Speaker 3: Like I think they'll pick spots to bring him up,
Speaker 3: let him play a little bit, and then send him
Speaker 3: back down.
Speaker 2: That's what I would hope.
Speaker 3: I Dalton connect is the rookie that we should be
Speaker 3: talking about.
Speaker 9: And he's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, James, I agree.
Speaker 8: So for your point is you're okay with it because
Speaker 8: it's good for Lebron, and what's good for Lebron is
Speaker 8: good for the game, which means is good for us.
Speaker 9: That's where you come down on this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he didn't play that long, I think it
Speaker 3: was all right, we'll put him in. It's kind of
Speaker 3: a like a ceremonial first pitch.
Speaker 8: Well, don't make it historical. Then don't say wow, this
Speaker 8: is the first one.
Speaker 2: Well it's not like the Griffies. I agree with you.
Speaker 8: Don't make it historical. If if you're point is, hey, listen,
Speaker 8: Lebron's earned this, and that's your point, that's fair. I'll
Speaker 8: give you that, but don't make this some unbelievable event
Speaker 8: that the sports fans got to pay attention to because
Speaker 8: because they're pacifying Lebron James.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you work part time for a network that
Speaker 3: makes this bigger than what it needs to be.
Speaker 8: I agree, I agree, and that is why yesterday part
Speaker 8: time is a little strong. Then you're a ESPN I'm
Speaker 8: on there at two hours a week to give them
Speaker 8: to help Stephen Eddie.
Speaker 9: I mean to say that I'm an esp employees a
Speaker 9: little strong.
Speaker 2: But do you have ESPN?
Speaker 9: I d no, I don't.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, then you're not an.
Speaker 8: I can get into Disney World with a discount that
Speaker 8: it passaged me. Now I tell you a little secret.
Speaker 8: I told them yesterday. I said, guys, listen, I'll play
Speaker 8: the You know, this is how I feel about Ronnie.
Speaker 8: If you don't want me to get into this, because
Speaker 8: it's going to bother people all lay low and to
Speaker 8: stephen A's credit, said, Chris, say what you have to
Speaker 8: say if you get pounded, who cares?
Speaker 9: We all get pounded on first, Dad, say what you
Speaker 9: have to say. So that's what I said.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but that's where I couldn't do it anymore.
Speaker 3: And I did it when I was there where they'd say, hey,
Speaker 3: you got to go Duke North Carolina basketball, you got
Speaker 3: to talk Yankees, Red Sox and you know you guys
Speaker 3: are told here's topics there and the amount of times
Speaker 3: that you can create. Now everybody's doing this. What's the
Speaker 3: cowboy angle today?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 9: I know, got Doc Prescott.
Speaker 3: But I love when you fight back because you're gonna stand,
Speaker 3: You're gonna speak to more people instead of playing the
Speaker 3: hits like they do.
Speaker 9: Like, well, here's what I would say, and I'm i
Speaker 9: pat myself on the back.
Speaker 8: This is just me telling you because you and I
Speaker 8: have been together and known each other for a very
Speaker 8: long time. Here's what I would say. How many people?
Speaker 8: And I didn't do this on purpose. I just did
Speaker 8: this because it's this is how I felt. How many
Speaker 8: people are going to go on ESPN, no matter what
Speaker 8: the show and not the idea that I've seen too
Speaker 8: much of Jason Kelsey.
Speaker 9: How many people are going to do that?
Speaker 8: Yes, because he was all of that Atlanta Philadelphia game.
Speaker 2: I mean that was that was not good.
Speaker 9: That was too much.
Speaker 2: That's be fair.
Speaker 9: Yes, I right along Danny.
Speaker 2: I'm a right around No.
Speaker 3: But Steven a going to a Knicks playoff game and
Speaker 3: you would have thought that he was playing.
Speaker 8: I said that yesterday bad, I said, Steve, how about
Speaker 8: a T shirt?
Speaker 2: Most Everything's great, Everything's great.
Speaker 9: That's a good spot with Manford. That's a good spot
Speaker 9: with Manford.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I like him. He's a good guy.
Speaker 2: I like him.
Speaker 3: I haven't liked everything he's done, but you know what
Speaker 3: it's like David Stern.
Speaker 2: I really loved Stern.
Speaker 3: We had battles, but you know what, I thought, at
Speaker 3: least he would listen.
Speaker 2: I thought at least he was honest with me.
Speaker 3: And that's all I can ask for when you have
Speaker 3: these like the commission Goodell doesn't come on the show.
Speaker 3: The other commissioners come on, and I feel like I
Speaker 3: can say to Adam Silver, this is wrong, or you
Speaker 3: got to change the all NBA don't make it. You know, positions,
Speaker 3: it's positionless. Basketball is positionless. And he changed that, and so.
Speaker 9: I had some influence with that.
Speaker 2: I do appreciate that.
Speaker 3: All right, I gotta go, and you need to comb
Speaker 3: your here, you got to comb your head.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Dog.
Speaker 3: That's Christopher mad Dog Russo and Sirius XM Channel eighty two,
Speaker 3: mad Dog Unleash. He's also on First Take and he's
Speaker 3: not a part time employ and host of High Heat
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Speaker 3: I do think, because it's Lebron James, that we look
Speaker 3: at nepotism and then we're outraged. There's nepetism all over
Speaker 3: the world, all over industry, all over this industry.
Speaker 2: Happens all the time.
Speaker 3: Somebody knows somebody who knows somebody somebody gets a job
Speaker 3: before they're ready.
Speaker 2: Happens all the time.
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick's son is still on the Patriots coaching staff.
Speaker 3: Do you think he stood out at some coaching seminar
Speaker 3: on all of a sudden. I think he might have
Speaker 3: cut the line. I mean, this happens all the time.
Speaker 3: But I think because it's Lebron James, and you know
Speaker 3: he forced them quotes to draft his son.
Speaker 2: It's not the end of the world. It's not. He's
Speaker 2: going to play a little bit. He'll go to the
Speaker 2: G League.
Speaker 3: I don't know who plays longer in the NBA, Bronni
Speaker 3: or his dad. How about that for a question starting today,
Speaker 3: who plays longer in the NBA? Lebron or Bronni.
Speaker 6: Yes, Stephen Belichick is actually currently at the University of Washington. Oh,
Speaker 6: he's coaching in college now. He got that job on
Speaker 6: his own, though, But.
Speaker 3: I think there's another Belichick on the coaching staff. Isn't
Speaker 3: there could be? Isn't there?
Speaker 6: One thing I know for sure is that Clint Kubiak
Speaker 6: got that job on his own.
Speaker 2: Of course he did, so did Mike Lafleur. I'm sure
Speaker 2: they did. They all got those jobs on their own.
Speaker 2: There's nepotism all around.
Speaker 3: Now, it doesn't make it right, but I'm just saying
Speaker 3: we single out Lebron because it's Lebron. This happens all over. Okay,
Speaker 3: it's time for our Dower rankings. Any sport, any team,
Speaker 3: any person, and the rationale is they're not doing well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just depressing and down and somewhat hopeless.
Speaker 2: Dower. Let's let Todd quickly.
Speaker 4: There is a Belichick still on the Patriots. Brian Belichick
Speaker 4: handles the safeties.
Speaker 6: Oh, Bron, right, It's just it is so funny how
Speaker 6: they just all ended up working for the Patriots.
Speaker 2: And then Drod Mayo is his brother on the coaching
Speaker 2: staff with the Patriots. Oh is he like strength and
Speaker 2: conditioning coach?
Speaker 10: Hold on the Mayo. Hold, I don't have him. There's
Speaker 10: no Mayo, no Mayo. Oh so they did hold the
Speaker 10: Mayil no man. Oh, for some reason, I thought his
Speaker 10: brother was on the coaching staff. Okay, Todd Dower Rankings.
Speaker 7: Dower Rankings. College football in Oklahoma, Sooners fall to South
Speaker 7: Carolina thirty five to nine. Now they're four and three already,
Speaker 7: three losses. The Cowboys of Oklahoma State lose to a
Speaker 7: good BYU team. But they're three and four, zero to
Speaker 7: four in the Big Twelve, ranked sixteenth in that conference.
Speaker 7: What's going on with Oklahoma and Oklahoma State?
Speaker 2: See O'Connor Dower ranking.
Speaker 6: Dower rankings are everything and everyone involved in the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 6: That situation is an absolute disaster. You brought in a
Speaker 6: dude with a very skeedule.
Speaker 3: I think they're Ameritith Seaton. I think we have to
Speaker 3: take the Browns off the board.
Speaker 6: He has an unbelievable history, an awful history. You give
Speaker 6: him a fully guaranteed contract when he gets booth, when
Speaker 6: he gets hurt and his season is over, the fans
Speaker 6: are cheering that he got hurt.
Speaker 2: Your own fans are like.
Speaker 6: Yes, that's what you get, ha ha. And then your
Speaker 6: backup is a guy with essentially the exact same past as.
Speaker 2: The guy who just got hurt.
Speaker 6: He's a dude who settled a whole bunch of sexual
Speaker 6: assault lawsuits too. You couldn't you got multiple dudes like
Speaker 6: that on the team. That place is a train wreck.
Speaker 5: Marvin my Dower ranking Joel embiid you're out already, and
Speaker 5: then you're going to say you're not playing back you
Speaker 5: said in advance, I'm not playing back to backs the NBA.
Speaker 3: Is he playing the next game? No, But there wasn't
Speaker 3: a game before this for him to sit down this game.
Speaker 5: You don't know that?
Speaker 2: Was it a pickup game? Pauli Dower ranking.
Speaker 4: I watched most of the Brooklyn Nets Atlanta Hawks game
Speaker 4: last night. He yes, it was like watching a torture video.
Speaker 4: The Brooklyn Nets are so hopeless. They're neither interesting, nor
Speaker 4: entertaining or compelling. And Ben Simmons that money Sieve untrying player.
Speaker 4: You should watch him play, oh, I have. It's fascinating
Speaker 4: to see some of the plays he doesn't make or makes.
Speaker 4: He had five files in one quarter. He had six turnovers.
Speaker 3: It's amazing to see him get ready to take a
Speaker 3: shot or a layup, and then he pulls it down
Speaker 3: or throws it back out.
Speaker 4: It's like he's a magnet and the baskets a magnet,
Speaker 4: and when he get close, they go away from each other.
Speaker 3: He had a couple of times where he's going in
Speaker 3: left handed and then he'll pull it down or throw
Speaker 3: it back out. He just doesn't want to shoot. He
Speaker 3: doesn't want to get fouled. He doesn't want to go
Speaker 3: to the line. Final hour on this Thursday on the
Speaker 3: Way he's Randy Johnson, Big unit back with us. Hope
Speaker 3: he'll stay with us as well. Hour three on the
Speaker 3: Way