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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 2: Emma is on the phone today for our first Day

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Speaker 2: follow up, and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Kyle.

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Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we'll call him and see

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Speaker 2: if it tells why he's ghosting her and maybe get

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Speaker 2: her another date. But first, Emma, how long has it

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Speaker 2: been since you heard from Kyle?

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Speaker 3: Gosh? I want to say it's been about like three weeks,

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Speaker 3: three or four weeks?

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, and been that long? Why do you want

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Speaker 2: to get a hold of him?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, if I can be totally honest, it's

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Speaker 3: because I know it's kind of cheesy to say because

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Speaker 3: it was just one day, but I really felt like

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Speaker 3: there was a connection, Like I really feel like there

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Speaker 3: was something there. Yeah yeah, I mean the date went

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Speaker 3: so well, and you know, we did like a whole

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean I love solving puzzles, and you know,

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Speaker 3: it seemed like we were both really working well together.

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Speaker 3: You know, I was kind of the brains, he was

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Speaker 3: kind of like the muscle moving stuff around, helping them,

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Speaker 3: you know, tall clues, and it just felt like, I

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Speaker 3: don't know, it almost didn't even feel like it was

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Speaker 3: a first date. We you know, even let so much

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Speaker 3: time pass that it was like past dinner time and

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Speaker 3: we hadn't ate anything yet, so then we decided to

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Speaker 3: like stop and get somebody to eat. It was so casual.

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Speaker 3: I am. I'm very much a person who kind of

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Speaker 3: overthinks on the first date, and I get very nervous usually,

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Speaker 3: but I didn't feel anything like that with Kyle. I

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Speaker 3: feel like he was also kind of feeling the vibe too,

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Speaker 3: and the way he was looking at me and talking

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Speaker 3: to me and telling me things. Yeah, I just I

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Speaker 4: And it's always so hard to know that you feel

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Speaker 4: that way, and it's kind of like it's impossible that

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Speaker 4: the other person didn't feel something right, Like, don't you

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Speaker 3: That way exactly?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what could have been the reason why he's disappeared now?

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Speaker 2: If it was that intense.

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Speaker 3: I've really been trying to pin this down, and I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm not totally sure, but the only thing that I

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Speaker 3: can kind of think of is that I can sometimes

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Speaker 3: get a little bit into the games, like I do

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Speaker 3: get competitive to a certain point. But I did tell

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Speaker 3: him this in advance, and I tried to kind of

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Speaker 3: just brush it off in more of like a flirtatious way,

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Speaker 3: Like there was one puzzle that he just wasn't getting,

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Speaker 3: Like it was, you know, like a word clue thing,

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Speaker 3: and it was so obvious to me, and he just

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Speaker 3: was like, well, you're lucky, you're so pretty, you know, Like, well, okay,

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Speaker 3: I didn't say that, but and it's my own fault,

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Speaker 3: like I know, I probably could have done better about

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Speaker 3: but that's the only thing that I can think of.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, how did it end with him?

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Speaker 3: I mean I thought it ended so well. We didn't

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Speaker 3: like fully confirm going on a second day, but we

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Speaker 3: both said the whole like, oh, you know, like I

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Speaker 3: had a great time. I'd like to do it again sometime.

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Speaker 3: And we both said that at the end, and we

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Speaker 3: then I tried again, you know, a couple of days later,

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Speaker 5: If there's one thing I normally hear on all these

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Speaker 5: it said after every single time they go on a

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Speaker 5: first day they everyone says like, oh, mars, like we

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Speaker 2: Time, or like, yeah, that's polite.

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Speaker 5: I think it's honestly just a polite thing people say,

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Speaker 5: because I've said it before, knowing that I was like, huh, so,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. It sucks because you, like you thought

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, he could just be doing

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Speaker 2: it to be polite. Well, that's heartbreaking. That's what's sounds.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 2: That's like pure em We'll see if we can figure

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Speaker 2: it out for you. We'll play a song, come back,

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Speaker 2: and then call him and see if he'll tell us

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I appreciate it, guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you? Yeah, first thing follow.

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Speaker 2: Right in the middle of today's first day follow up

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Speaker 2: and if you're just joining us. Emma is on the

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Speaker 2: phone and she's getting ghosted by Kyle. So we're about

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Speaker 2: to call him and see if he'll tell us why

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Speaker 2: he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date. But first, Emma,

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Speaker 2: why don't you break down your date for us one

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Speaker 2: more time?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kyle and I went out a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: We had a great first date. We did an escape room,

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Speaker 3: we had you know, dinner afterwards. It felt like we

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Speaker 4: All right, Well he did kind of imply that he

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Speaker 4: wasn't the smartest, so yeah, there was that.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, you're ready for us to see if

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Speaker 2: we can figure it out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm ready.

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Speaker 7: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Hey is Kyle, Kyle?

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Speaker 2: How are you? This is a radio show. It's called

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Speaker 2: The Jebel Show.

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Speaker 4: Hi Kyle.

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Speaker 2: My name is Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria and I'm Jebel.

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Speaker 2: How's it going, Hey, guys, it's going, it's going.

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Speaker 6: It's going pretty good.

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Speaker 7: How's it going right?

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Speaker 6: Good?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for asking? Have you ever listened to the show before, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a little bit. Well, we do a segment on the

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Speaker 2: show called the First eight follow Up. I swear if

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Speaker 2: you go out on a date with somebody and you

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Speaker 2: ghost them, they can email us to call you and

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Speaker 2: figure out why you're ghosting them. So we had an

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Speaker 2: email about you from somebody, Kyle, that's why we're calling.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh yeah, yeah for sure.

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Speaker 8: I think I uh, I think I've been familiar with it.

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Speaker 8: Let me guess she's been texting me a ton Uh,

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Speaker 8: no surprises.

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Speaker 6: On this Is it?

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Speaker 3: Is it? Emma?

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is Emma. Do you have time to tell

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Speaker 2: us why you're ghostinger?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Look, I mean look, I mean I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the day was really fun.

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Speaker 8: I thought it was. I thought it was a good time.

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Speaker 8: I mean she was really really gorgeous, and I mean

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Speaker 8: I think she means, well, I'm just kind of uh,

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Speaker 8: it's kind of crazy, but she's like as a pretty

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Speaker 3: Sort of right.

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Speaker 8: So after our day, she she sends me, she sends

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Speaker 8: me a Venmo request for half of our Uber ride.

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Speaker 8: People to send like Venmo requests without like a heads up,

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Speaker 8: that's like a different kind of passive aggressive. And this

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Speaker 8: is an uber ride that was like twenty five bucks,

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Speaker 3: Wait, wait a minute, sorry, that's the reason why you

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Speaker 3: ghosted me.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Kyle, that's much. She's on the phone and wants

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Speaker 3: By the way, Yeah, I could jump in like it

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Speaker 3: was your you're you ghosted me over twelve dollars and

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Speaker 2: Did you send them? I mean I did.

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Speaker 3: It's like, ye, I didn't.

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Speaker 8: Sorry, I didn't even make it. I don't even make

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Speaker 8: just it's just it's so kind of weird, dude, I

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Speaker 3: A big thing like it's it was a twenty five

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Speaker 4: Did you guys split everything else on the day?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 2: My thing is?

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Speaker 3: This is my thing?

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Speaker 6: Though?

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Speaker 4: Is that?

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Speaker 3: So to me this has.

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Speaker 8: Like nothing to do with the money, Like I don't

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Speaker 8: So it's like we hadn't even had our first post

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Speaker 8: first date conversation before You're like sending me these Venmo

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Speaker 8: It felt like, I don't know that could be like

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Speaker 8: I appreciate straightforward communications, just to be honest about it.

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Speaker 5: So would you have rather her text you and be like, hey,

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Speaker 2: The uber ride? Like would that have solved issue for you?

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Speaker 8: I don't know, because like I would have rather heard

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Speaker 8: I guess in my head I kind of want her

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Speaker 8: regular conversations for a little while, and then it's like, hey,

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Speaker 8: you want to send me some money for that uber?

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Speaker 2: Right, you just.

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Speaker 3: Said that the money. You just said the money wasn't

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Speaker 3: an issue, but now you're saying it is an issue

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Speaker 3: because I mean, I haint fo and like everything all

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Speaker 3: I did was sent a request. I didn't demand it

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Speaker 3: from you. I was and you could have just texted

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Speaker 3: me and said, hey, what's up with the Venmo request?

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Speaker 3: You didn't respond to me at all? How is that

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Speaker 3: an adult mature thing?

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Speaker 8: I mean, even if you would have demanded it from me,

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Speaker 6: Have been more straightforward communications. So I feel like I

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Speaker 6: like the passive aggressive Venmo thing, dude, Like this is

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Speaker 6: it's like a type of person that communicates and operates

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Speaker 6: through the Venmo transactions like that, And it's not me.

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Speaker 8: I'm just not I'm not into it.

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Speaker 3: It was a turn off.

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Speaker 4: But do you think you're a passive aggressive person in general?

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Speaker 3: No? No, I'm definitely not. I don't know what kind

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Speaker 3: of specific person you're like looking for in terms of

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Speaker 3: wanting something like that, but you could have also just

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Speaker 3: communicated that that was an issue, Like you're boasting about

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Speaker 3: being a mature adult and communication is important to you.

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Speaker 3: But you did the exact opposite of what you just said.

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking for somebody who can actually follow through

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Speaker 3: with their own principles. I needed to.

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Speaker 8: Send a them request, like to someone after a date

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Speaker 8: all out of the move.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's kind of weird in this economy.

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Speaker 3: How is that weird?

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Speaker 8: If you're if you're if you need the money or whatever.

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Speaker 8: I guess I get that or whatever, but it's for me,

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Speaker 8: it's to turn off.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry about it.

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Speaker 8: It is what it is.

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Speaker 5: You said that you would have rather bring it up later,

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Speaker 5: but I feel like it'd been more awkward if she

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Speaker 5: would have brought it up later and randomly.

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Speaker 8: Well, okay, how about we try this right, Like, why

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Speaker 8: don't you tell me how much your time was worth

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Speaker 8: for the date and I'll reimburse you for it?

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Speaker 3: Wow? No, you know, I don't know money, you know,

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Speaker 3: I just I mean, if you want to pay me, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, give me one hundred and fifty bucks, But

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Speaker 3: be honest, I don't think you can even afford that.

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Speaker 6: Oh, Okay, all right, I'm going an you will use

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Speaker 6: three hundred right now, just to show you I can

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Speaker 6: afford it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Kyle, would you like to go on another date

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Speaker 2: with Emma? We'll pay for it.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking about it. I think I'm good, don't fam.

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Speaker 3: I think we're business.

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Speaker 2: Emma, you didn't get a second date, but hey, you

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Speaker 2: got three hundred bus when In my book, Jubile's first

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Speaker 2: day call up