Speaker 1: Wow, that sound of rings, five of them means another
Speaker 1: episode with the two guys five rings podcast?
Speaker 2: Will we start with the five rings and then we
Speaker 2: go to two guys and then we do another bread
Speaker 2: in the sandwich of five rings? Do we start with
Speaker 2: five rings and then go to two guys? Or do
Speaker 2: we start with two guys and then go to five rings? Well,
Speaker 2: I'm saying we literally start by saying five rings. You're right,
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't even think about how this podcast is.
Speaker 2: A recognition recognition.
Speaker 1: This podcast is just like what it's like a game
Speaker 1: of really Olympic sport beach volleyball, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: back and forth and fourth and back the ball.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the ball goes and the men die.
Speaker 2: And that's on podcasting. That's on podcasting. Now, Matt, let's
Speaker 2: just catch up. Yes, we have kind of this is
Speaker 2: our time checking in with each other since the podcast
Speaker 2: is sort of making waves.
Speaker 1: Taken off, has taken off in such a way. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: this podcast is now a cultural excision in its own right.
Speaker 1: Things have really taken off, thank god. And I think
Speaker 1: since I've last saw you, I guess my big headline
Speaker 1: is I went on a little vacation. I went to
Speaker 1: the Poconos, where I took port. In took port. I
Speaker 1: just took port, or I took port in some Olympic sports.
Speaker 1: I did golf. I watched beach volleyball happen. I saw
Speaker 1: some sailing happen. But I did golf. I played golf.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. Do you feel like an Olympia in a way?
Speaker 2: Certainly no.
Speaker 1: I think in order to feel like an olympiaan in golf,
Speaker 1: you'd have to be able to hit a drive? Do
Speaker 1: you know what that is? Do you know golf at all?
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I can tell you what a mulligan is.
Speaker 2: I think, well, you're better than me.
Speaker 1: Is a mulligan outside of being the surname of the
Speaker 1: great actress carry a mulligan is he's.
Speaker 2: Laying up everyone, so he can't actually tell me. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you. A mulligan is a second chance
Speaker 2: to perform an action, usually after the first chance went wrong.
Speaker 2: So mulligan ENGLF where the player is allowed to replay
Speaker 2: a stroke.
Speaker 1: M h I'm gonna say I had my mulligan all
Speaker 1: the time and repeated Mulligan's repeated I replay a stroke
Speaker 1: every day. Oh honey, replying strokes till I can't breathe.
Speaker 2: Girl, I wish you could mulligan in dating. Oh, babet's
Speaker 2: let's let me, let me just go redo redo. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is the two guys section and U two single guys? Brother?
Speaker 2: Would you beat dating?
Speaker 1: Would you be intimidated to date an Olympian? Like if
Speaker 1: an Olympian got in the DMS and was like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's me Olympic bronze, silver, gold medalist, doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2: Can I reveal something? Yeah? I don't think he was
Speaker 2: an Olympian, but he I think no, I think he
Speaker 2: was an ice dancer for Canada. Yep, okay, I know
Speaker 2: not who you're not who you're thinking. That's another guy
Speaker 2: who's in everyone's DM or very own Olympic trials. This
Speaker 2: is another ice dancer and he's very funny. He might
Speaker 2: even be listening to this very podcast and we say
Speaker 2: shout out so the Olympians you're out there. I would
Speaker 2: be intimidated to answer your question, yes, because I have
Speaker 2: done the thought experiment and went I'm not worthy. This
Speaker 2: is one of our great athletic powers in the world
Speaker 2: athletic minds. This is one of our great athletic minds.
Speaker 2: I've been on a date with one of our great
Speaker 2: athletic minds, and I.
Speaker 1: Did have to talk myself up for it, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm nervous. I'm nervous. This is an Olympian.
Speaker 1: And then guess what, they're just guys. They're just guys,
Speaker 1: they're just gals, They're just regular folks like us. So
Speaker 1: that's one of the things I want to set an
Speaker 1: intention for as we start to watch the Olympics is, guys,
Speaker 1: there's just these are just people. These are just people
Speaker 1: just like you and I, and you have a chance
Speaker 1: with each and every one of them. I want to
Speaker 1: tell the audience that.
Speaker 2: You have a chance with each If you are watching
Speaker 2: the Olympics this year and going I want to take
Speaker 2: that one out to dinner. You can. You can do it.
Speaker 2: Reach out, of course, don't make it uncomfortable, don't make
Speaker 2: it weird, don't make it weird ever, But you know,
Speaker 2: shoot your shot come as a gun on screen as tail. Wow.
Speaker 1: But we got to bring it back to Paris. We
Speaker 1: gotta bring it back to Paris, we.
Speaker 2: Gotta bring it back to Terris. To our producers to
Speaker 2: be telling us well, first of all, since the introduction
Speaker 2: of this podcast as a cultural institution, we can reveal
Speaker 2: at this time that Matt and I are maybe being
Speaker 2: offered a spot on the ioc I. We might have
Speaker 2: a hand in picking out the next city.
Speaker 1: Where would be your ideal spot? Brooklyn, Provincetown, Provincetown, you know, honestly,
Speaker 1: Brooklyn will be cute because it's right here. Province down
Speaker 1: would be amazing because it's so beautiful in the summer,
Speaker 1: in the community. I think it'll be huge for the
Speaker 1: gays to host, really, because then the gays would be
Speaker 1: hosting the Olympics, and that would be fun.
Speaker 2: That would be so fun a gay host. I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but listen to bring it back to Paris.
Speaker 1: You know those swimmers were swimming. Did you catch any
Speaker 1: of the Olympics im trials?
Speaker 2: I am being told of the moments? Yeah, and did you?
Speaker 1: So basically, like, I just want to say one thing.
Speaker 1: Katie Ladeci, she really is no joke. Her reputation precedes her.
Speaker 1: But then you watch her and you understand why reputation
Speaker 1: capital are in this case is why that reputation is
Speaker 1: what it is. Did you see the video of Katie
Speaker 1: Ladecci swimming in the water with a glass of chocolate
Speaker 1: milk on her head and it doesn't fall off.
Speaker 2: Now, that is just a flex. What we call a
Speaker 2: flex in the industry. That's what we call ego.
Speaker 1: Listen, Katie, that is what we.
Speaker 2: Call diva behavior.
Speaker 1: Truly, honestly, as a lover of chocolate milk, do you
Speaker 1: love chocolate milk?
Speaker 2: I haven't had it in decades.
Speaker 1: So you're not even really it's not even on the
Speaker 1: brain for you.
Speaker 2: I would gladly accept a glass of it right now.
Speaker 2: I just it's not what I go for. It's not
Speaker 2: what's available. Like, let's talk about dairy for a second.
Speaker 2: I would love to. I was just talking about this
Speaker 2: with a friend. Imagine you're out to dinner in a
Speaker 2: nice restaurant and let's say an Olympian you're on a
Speaker 2: date with is like we have a glass of milk. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I would be turned on personally.
Speaker 1: The boldness that that has, the consciousness of osteoporosis that
Speaker 1: that has. I have to say, there was a time
Speaker 1: in American culture where osteoporosis was one of the top
Speaker 1: three things we were worried about, and now that fear
Speaker 1: is just gone. There was a time when they used
Speaker 1: to say, you have to have to drink two full
Speaker 1: glasses of milk a day to get the calcium that
Speaker 1: you need, or you run the rist of osco porosis, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, my grandmother described as end i quote,
Speaker 1: not a day in the park.
Speaker 2: And she said ostioporosis was not a day in the park.
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, we're not even thinking
Speaker 1: about it. They're saying milk. They're saying milk. Couldn't even
Speaker 1: get arrested.
Speaker 2: Milk. You're not cracking the top twenty issues that Americans
Speaker 2: care about.
Speaker 1: Because with inflation, honey, honey, inflation Number one is inflation,
Speaker 1: uh huh? Number two, International affairs number three, Chapel r oone,
Speaker 1: number four, culture wars, number five, when is Severan's coming back?
Speaker 2: And then maybe number six osteoporosis. This is so maybe
Speaker 2: it's it's certainly top ten, it's not top five, but
Speaker 2: that is something that we could all rally behind. Ostioporosis
Speaker 2: was like the thing there were no party lines with osteoporosis.
Speaker 1: Because everyone has bones. Everyone has bones, and so this
Speaker 1: is something that we could really get together.
Speaker 2: Now, this is all to lead us into a discussion
Speaker 2: about we've got to bring it back to Paris, we
Speaker 2: got to bring it back to Paris. Well, today we're
Speaker 2: talking about the top Olympic moments, and there are a
Speaker 2: lot of them. I would say the unit of measurement
Speaker 2: in the Olympics is moments. It's not events. It's not
Speaker 2: even the people, it's not the metals. It is the moments.
Speaker 1: You remember the moments most of all. By the way,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at these moments and I'm so happy to
Speaker 1: see a couple of moments here that I was actually
Speaker 1: watching live in the flesh.
Speaker 2: Oh, the Katie Ldeki moment. Absolutely, all the swimming trials
Speaker 2: we have engagement to talk about. We have a sixteen
Speaker 2: year old track and field record break that just happened
Speaker 2: very recently. This is all leading up to Paris. Needless
Speaker 2: to say, this is shaping up to be an exciting
Speaker 2: Olympics before it's even begun.
Speaker 1: We which of course means in French, I so agree
Speaker 1: with you. Yes, And I think that first of all,
Speaker 1: I do want to say l Deci that is it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, of course it's going to be exciting
Speaker 1: to watch her win, but when someone is so much
Speaker 1: better than everyone else. You kind of do lose a
Speaker 1: little bit of the suspense, like we're just gonna be
Speaker 1: watching this woman dominate and that's earned, but you know,
Speaker 1: you wish.
Speaker 2: For a little bit more suspensia. There's suspensia to be
Speaker 2: found where you will find it if you are seeking
Speaker 2: it out. And I am let Katy be the Beyonce.
Speaker 2: I would say, Katy le Decci is the Beyonce of
Speaker 2: the Olympics this year.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a huge title to be given the title
Speaker 1: of the Beyonce of the Olympics. Now, she's got to come.
Speaker 2: On the podcast, Katie. Open invite Katie.
Speaker 1: We do very well with people with your first name.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm going to say. We do very well
Speaker 1: with you and your type and your ilk and your ilk. Now,
Speaker 1: let's just quickly talk about the top moments that are
Speaker 1: not going to be considering the totality of the Olympics
Speaker 1: of record. But let's just say in these trial moments first,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about these record breaks. Okay, So
Speaker 1: twenty thousand people witnessed the first of the nine day
Speaker 1: trials in Indianapolis, record attendance for an endorsement meat, which
Speaker 1: did not last long because Wednesday's event were an even
Speaker 1: larger turnout, the USA Swiming announced a new attendant circuit
Speaker 1: of twenty two two hundred and nine. And that wasn't
Speaker 1: the only record broken on Wednesday. Matt Fallon captured the
Speaker 1: American record by finishing the two hundred meter breaststroke in
Speaker 1: get this two minutes end six point five four seconds.
Speaker 1: Least timers are precise, let me tell you something they
Speaker 1: need to be, because if anything was extremely clear in
Speaker 1: the trials, it's that this comes down to literal milliseconds.
Speaker 1: I was watching like a few of the heats, and
Speaker 1: you know, you don't qualify if you're like zero point
Speaker 1: three away from where the front runner was. It is
Speaker 1: heartbreaking to watch it come down to that tiny, tiny,
Speaker 1: tiny difference, which you have to think they're prepared for,
Speaker 1: but it is crushing to watch someone just lose by
Speaker 1: point oh eight and not even lose but come in
Speaker 1: six or something, because that's how close it was between
Speaker 1: the top six.
Speaker 2: It's wild not even lose, just like not qualify for
Speaker 2: the next heat like that is I can barely conceptualize
Speaker 2: time in my everyday life, where I'm thinking in terms
Speaker 2: of minutes and hours, maybe like for a tenth or
Speaker 2: one hundredth of a second to determine my career. That
Speaker 2: is that is wild, and we apply all of you.
Speaker 1: We applaud you all, and honestly, like, let's just hope
Speaker 1: that these timers are worth their salt, because sometimes I'm
Speaker 1: looking in the ocean, and by the ocean, I mean
Speaker 1: the pool where they swim, the pool. Sometimes I'm looking
Speaker 1: in that ocean and I see them all hit the
Speaker 1: wall at one time, and I'm like, I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: who can say?
Speaker 2: Who can say who was first?
Speaker 1: Like I guess they got those special cameras, they got
Speaker 1: those special clocks, like it's up to them, but really
Speaker 1: very stressful, you don't want to mess up.
Speaker 2: I agree. We're putting a lot of faith in technology
Speaker 2: and cyfficle timer technology, camera technology. Matt Fallon, well done, sister,
Speaker 2: twenty one year old legend who narrowly surpassed Josh Preno's
Speaker 2: time from twenty sixteen to qualify for Paris, alongside seventeen
Speaker 2: year old Thomas Heilman, who becomes the youngest US main
Speaker 2: Olympic swimmers since Michael Phelps debuted at age fifteen in
Speaker 2: two thousand. These are the future stars, current stars. Yeah,
Speaker 2: current stars. I mean this is current events are happening
Speaker 2: as we speak. Imagine your thing being the breastroke, Like
Speaker 2: you're so good at the breastroke, Like it is unreal
Speaker 2: how good you are at the breastroke. Because you think like, oh,
Speaker 2: you want to become a swimmer, like you're doing freestyle, like.
Speaker 1: Backstroke, breaststroke. These are really leisurely activities you do to
Speaker 1: get to and fro in the water. But in this
Speaker 1: Olympic arena you can be a breaststroke speedster, a back
Speaker 1: stroke raptor.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, okay, you better be a backstroker raptor
Speaker 2: if you're gonna qualify. If twenty two thousand people have
Speaker 2: their eyes, if you have forty four thousand eyes on.
Speaker 1: You, twenty two thousand.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I doubled it because of eyes. I'm being
Speaker 2: ablest and assuming everyone has two eyes and they might not,
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of two, it takes two people to get engaged.
Speaker 1: Listen to this headline. Lily King got engaged after qualifying
Speaker 1: for her second event. Five time Olympic medalist, Lily King
Speaker 1: collected two new pieces of jewelry Thursday night at the
Speaker 1: US Olympic Swimming Trials. Moments after finishing in second place
Speaker 1: behind Kate Douglas in the two hundred meter breast stroke
Speaker 1: at Lucas Oil Stadium to qualify for her second event
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty four Paris Olympics, King's boyfriend James Wells,
Speaker 1: proposed to her as she made her way out of
Speaker 1: the pool into the warm down area. Video of the
Speaker 1: moment was shared soon after on social media by USA
Speaker 1: Swimming and NBAC Sports. I don't know if I would
Speaker 1: be particularly open to this moment while I'm dehydrated, sweating, stressed,
Speaker 1: my eyes are, my head is spinning, and then my
Speaker 1: man gets.
Speaker 2: On one knee.
Speaker 1: Uh, I guess your most vulnerable and open well.
Speaker 2: I mean, couldn't you have at least gotten her a
Speaker 2: blowout station before the big moment. Give this woman a
Speaker 2: damn blowout before she puts a ring on her finger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let her get her blow out, Let her go,
Speaker 1: put her shoulder pads on, let her plan her spontaneity.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about surprise engagements is like you kind
Speaker 1: of have to tip it to the lady a little
Speaker 1: bit so they can feel like you know, they're on
Speaker 1: top of themselves for their own moment, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: What's it called very millennial thing? When a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of people start to dance in Unison. Oh, that of
Speaker 2: course is a flash mob. Flash mob? Yeah? Is this
Speaker 2: the new flash mob moment? Us qualifying trials?
Speaker 1: That's why there are so many twenty two thousand.
Speaker 2: Two, that is a flash mob.
Speaker 1: Mama gets out of the water, like like Lily k
Speaker 1: gets out of the water. I was gonna say, love it,
Speaker 1: just like everyone in the everyone there doing like left shark,
Speaker 1: right shark, like just kind of giving that mid choreos
Speaker 1: that they always give during a flash mob. And literally
Speaker 1: just think about James Wells King's boyfriend just sort of
Speaker 1: doing a little dance as he walks up to her.
Speaker 1: Cut to Lily King, who's just out of the water.
Speaker 2: Like oh my.
Speaker 1: God, baby babe, No, oh my god, baby baby, and
Speaker 1: she's freaking out, and then he gets on one knee
Speaker 1: and like, I guess you'd have to get married then
Speaker 1: once someone organizes a flash mob, which we're not saying
Speaker 1: that James Wells did, in fact, you did not, but
Speaker 1: in this moment, it's like he attempted grandeur, and you
Speaker 1: know she's gotta say yes.
Speaker 2: She's got to say Although I'm looking at pictures of
Speaker 2: the moment, it's very sweet. I'm smiling. She seems happy,
Speaker 2: he seems happy. He's a burly fellow, is he? These
Speaker 2: are people who could both of them could literally move
Speaker 2: a mountain. These are like actual Olympians in the sense
Speaker 2: that they can control the elements. They have this strength.
Speaker 1: I've googled, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: This. She looks very thrilled. This is sweet.
Speaker 1: So you have to imagine if you're going to propose
Speaker 1: to your girlfriend at the Olympics when everyone is watching,
Speaker 1: you probably know about her that she's the type of
Speaker 1: girl that would want that.
Speaker 2: Definitely, this is just her job. This is the thing.
Speaker 2: Like we can't really put too much gravitas or stakes
Speaker 2: in these moments. Like for them, it's just like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: like another day at the office.
Speaker 1: Another day absolutely slanging in the office, qualifying for my
Speaker 1: second event and getting a ring on my finger.
Speaker 2: As Jennifer Lawrence, an American hustle said, I got a
Speaker 2: ring on my finger, yeah, and an USCAR nominated performance.
Speaker 2: We absolutely am And then another moment, a sixteen year
Speaker 2: old stunner at track and field trials in Eugene, Oregon.
Speaker 2: We have a sprinting phenomenon and intersectional A straight A
Speaker 2: student give it up for Quincy Wilson, who had already
Speaker 2: become a true future star of American track and field.
Speaker 2: With bullet emblazon across the front of his uniform, Wilson
Speaker 2: ran four hundred meters in forty four point six seconds,
Speaker 2: shattering the under eighteen world record and breaking an American record.
Speaker 1: I can stop carrying this heavy burd in period. So
Speaker 1: this is how far we've made it. When I mentioned
Speaker 1: until I mentioned my mile time, which was four minutes
Speaker 1: and thirty six seconds. Wow, And I just wanted to
Speaker 1: bring up my four hundred times. So he ran a
Speaker 1: forty four point sixty six seconds. I did a fifty
Speaker 1: four in high school and was busting my ass. Couldn't
Speaker 1: have even dreamed of going faster. So ten seconds faster
Speaker 1: than that.
Speaker 2: And were you a straight A student actually, Bowen?
Speaker 1: Yes, I actually was a straight A student until I
Speaker 1: stopped caring at math, and I took like a very
Speaker 1: very very easy course, like a regent's course we called it.
Speaker 1: I took statistics and I got an A in that,
Speaker 1: but probably wasn't an a student in math in the
Speaker 1: way that you would qualify as like a typical very
Speaker 1: good student.
Speaker 2: But I just didn't try. You don't know me. You
Speaker 2: don't know what I qualify statistics basically very hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I guess it depends. But it was pretty
Speaker 1: it was. It was pretty easy stuff. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not calling myself any Quincy Wilson. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you know, this is about Quincy. He's He's done an
Speaker 1: amazing work.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm starting to get jealous of Quincy Wilson
Speaker 2: because here's this other little morsel. They they as a
Speaker 2: new balance. Let him design his own racing singlet damn
Speaker 2: with the Maryland state flag pattern. This is a truth.
Speaker 1: That's the dream.
Speaker 2: That's the dream. Oh and this is a good design
Speaker 2: he did, like the pixel camo black and white with
Speaker 2: a pop of yellow. This boy knows color theory. This
Speaker 2: boy's a legend.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah he looks great.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: These kids are so young.
Speaker 2: These are young kids, and we celebrate their achievements. Go off,
Speaker 2: my gosh, go off kids. Our future, I believe.
Speaker 1: And now we have to change the melody.
Speaker 2: So we don't get to children our future. Yes you
Speaker 2: wanted to say, what he's Houston preacher's way. Only loved Whitney,
Speaker 2: only loved to Whitney. Let's take a quick break, and
Speaker 2: when we come back, we are going to go through
Speaker 2: the top Olympic moments throughout history. End time.
Speaker 1: We are back, we're about to go through some of
Speaker 1: the top moments across all Olympics history. And then of
Speaker 1: course we're gonna award our gold, silver, and bronze medal.
Speaker 1: How about this, bo we all remember where we were.
Speaker 1: If we were someone that was cognizant in nineteen ninety two,
Speaker 1: couldn't be us.
Speaker 2: We were only two years old children.
Speaker 1: When Derek Redmond was at the nineteen ninety two of
Speaker 1: Barcelona Olympics and he competed in the four hundred meters.
Speaker 1: A hamstring injury forced him to pull up during his
Speaker 1: semi final heat. Redmond decided to limp on to finish
Speaker 1: the race before his dad, Jim, ran onto the track
Speaker 1: to help his son continue and put his arm around
Speaker 1: his son's waist. Crowd give a standing ovation, and just
Speaker 1: before the finish line, Jim let go so Derek, who
Speaker 1: was in tears, could finish on his own. Sometimes, Daddy
Speaker 1: help my Daddy said, Shoot, I'm coming down to the
Speaker 1: track and helping you across the finish line like a father.
Speaker 1: Do I love my father. I just got to meet
Speaker 1: him for the second time.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so glad. I felt as.
Speaker 1: Though this was a man who would hop onto the
Speaker 1: track and help his son across the finish line.
Speaker 2: He absolutely would.
Speaker 1: Like if you were ever doing an SNL sketch and
Speaker 1: you got the yips, I just know that Ruland would
Speaker 1: jump down from the stand and he would finish the sketch.
Speaker 2: Well, honey, I've had the yips at SNL for years
Speaker 2: and he hasn't shown it. One.
Speaker 1: That's not true. You're not categorizing this in a correct way.
Speaker 1: You only ever deliver it a girl you don't know,
Speaker 1: speaking of daddy. This number two, we have Michael Phelps
Speaker 1: eight gold medals in the Lwait Bajing Olympics. And that
Speaker 1: was a moment.
Speaker 2: Oh, total moment.
Speaker 1: I mean, and he hosted Speaking of he hosted the
Speaker 1: premiere after this happened. Remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure Lauren was like, well, he has to
Speaker 2: get to eight otherwise he's not hostating Otherwise You're just
Speaker 2: not interesting. No one knows who he is. It's so interesting.
Speaker 1: He see he was. He had a quest for eight medals.
Speaker 1: It was nearly derailed. In his second race, the four
Speaker 1: by one relay, Phelps, his teammate, an anchor swimmer on
Speaker 1: the US relay, Jason Lezak, entered the water more than
Speaker 1: half a second behind the French team, but he managed
Speaker 1: to finish ahead by eight hundredths of a second with
Speaker 1: the fastest ever relay leg Thank you, Jason, Thanks Jason.
Speaker 1: And then the seventh event final, the one hundred meter butterfly,
Speaker 1: Phelps hung on to win by an even closer margin,
Speaker 1: just one hundredth of a second. Okay, Like this is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's crazy for the lag to be half a second
Speaker 2: behind the French team, to be like devastating, is devastating
Speaker 2: to think about.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm hm.
Speaker 2: But Michael, you legend you have. You have earned your
Speaker 2: name in the annals of history, Olympics history, which is
Speaker 2: best represented on this podcast. Two Guys five Rings one
Speaker 2: of the best pieces of Olympics content ever created.
Speaker 1: Get this Two Guys five Rings. One ankle destroyed. Oh
Speaker 1: during a vault.
Speaker 2: I know you're talking about Carrie Strug.
Speaker 1: Carries this is number three moment number three. In her
Speaker 1: first of two vaults, Strug sat down on the landing
Speaker 1: and injured her ankle, very very hard to watch. She
Speaker 1: was unsure she could vault a second time, but decided
Speaker 1: to attempt it as she thought her second vault was
Speaker 1: needed to ensure that the US would get the gold.
Speaker 1: After limping back to the end of the runway, she
Speaker 1: took the vault, landed briefly on both feet before instantly
Speaker 1: hopping onto the uninjured food. She then collapsed to her
Speaker 1: knees and needed help off the competition floor. Eventually, her coach,
Speaker 1: Bella COOLi, carried Strug onto the metal podium to join
Speaker 1: her teammates the rest of the Magnific seven. Now this
Speaker 1: is an interesting one because yes, we love that Kerrie
Speaker 1: was able to, you know, you know, fight through it
Speaker 1: to get the gold. But also you know, mama's food
Speaker 1: could have snapped off at a certain point. It's like,
Speaker 1: but what about her foot?
Speaker 2: What about her foot? I mean, do you think Bella,
Speaker 2: mister Bella like got what was going on? Like I
Speaker 2: don't know, but Bella is of course nicon. I mean,
Speaker 2: who could forget the mustache and the Magnificent seven.
Speaker 1: He actually he kind of is a prototype. He's kind
Speaker 1: of like a daddy prototype, like Bella Coroli. Like you
Speaker 1: see a lot of guys walking around Brooklyn trying to
Speaker 1: serve that. You know, I always say, Bowen Yang very
Speaker 1: powerful with a mustache.
Speaker 2: I wish I could grow on irl.
Speaker 1: I see you trying right now, I see you character.
Speaker 1: I know Bowen is shooting a film and his character
Speaker 1: has a little bit of facial hair. It's a little
Speaker 1: grungey because you want because isn't this your most adult
Speaker 1: role yet?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm this is your most They're.
Speaker 1: Saying, this is a huge this is a huge career transition.
Speaker 1: He's finally doing a grown up adult role. Like, this
Speaker 1: is your this is your transition, this is your Miley
Speaker 1: Cyrus last.
Speaker 2: Song, Yes, oh my god, Last Saw was that the
Speaker 2: movie that really got her into adult that.
Speaker 1: Most famous example a transition to adulthoods Oh my god.
Speaker 1: People are really going to be listening to this, Like
Speaker 1: when will they talk about the Olympics, Like, you can't
Speaker 1: deny we have been talking about it, but certainly it's not.
Speaker 2: But we we in essence, we haven't talked about the Olympics.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't change a thing, just like you know who
Speaker 1: i'd else bet wouldn't change a thing. Abby Dagasina and
Speaker 1: Nicki Hamblin, Oh, this was an international moment of peace
Speaker 1: and cooperation in friendship. Talk about it well, as we
Speaker 1: all remember in Rio twenty sixteen. I mean, forget the
Speaker 1: Tonguan guy, which we'll get to our king.
Speaker 2: This was let me set the scene. Go ahead. Nicki
Speaker 2: Hamblin from New Zealand, stumbled and fell on the trap. Dougustina,
Speaker 2: who was right behind Hamblin, tripped over her. Instead of continuing,
Speaker 2: Queen Abbey stopped to make sure Nicki could get up.
Speaker 2: Both athletes resumed the race, but Dougustinas sooner realized she
Speaker 2: was injured and fell to the ground too. You can't
Speaker 2: write this this time. Hamlin is the one who stops
Speaker 2: to check on Augustino. They both managed across the finish line,
Speaker 2: handled more than ninety seconds behind the winner of the
Speaker 2: heat and Augustina more than two minutes back. But this
Speaker 2: was something that made you say, this is the human spirit.
Speaker 2: This is part of the human condition, for all the
Speaker 2: pain and suffering that defines life. As a human being
Speaker 2: on this planet, in an inhospitable world, there are moments
Speaker 2: of gorgeous friendship and care and mutual aid. And this
Speaker 2: is what the Olympics are all about. I I could cry.
Speaker 2: I am crying. You are you know what this makes
Speaker 2: me think of?
Speaker 1: Like they were the original Charli XCX and Lord, like
Speaker 1: when they stopped and they said they worked it out
Speaker 1: on the remix, like they worked it out on the tracks.
Speaker 2: They did like.
Speaker 1: Remix, but they basically like, if you don't know what
Speaker 1: we're talking about, listen to Girls So Confusing version with
Speaker 1: Lord from Charli XCX and then go back and watch this.
Speaker 2: It's literally New Zealand. Yeah, New Zealand. And let's pretend
Speaker 2: Charlie's from the USA.
Speaker 1: Let's just pretend.
Speaker 2: This moment was giving you. I'm glad, I know how
Speaker 2: you feel because they Rightie.
Speaker 1: This literally someone needs some that listens to this podcast
Speaker 1: needs to take a clip from Abby Dagersina and Nikki
Speaker 1: Hemblin and put it to Girls Show Confusing Remix with Thorn.
Speaker 1: You have to please do it for us that can't
Speaker 1: because we don't have the same head. Yeah they say
Speaker 1: we have the same head.
Speaker 2: We're just two gay men living in this world, and
Speaker 2: our next moment is one gay man being.
Speaker 1: Diving off a board.
Speaker 2: I think, to me, Greg Luganis is like one of
Speaker 2: the most compelling interesting Like I'm just gonna say this
Speaker 2: is my contender for gold medal. I'm just gonna come
Speaker 2: out there and say it because Greg, can I say something?
Speaker 1: I agree with you too, And let's just reveal Greg
Speaker 1: Luganis wins the gold medal for this episode, Like we
Speaker 1: are standing, we are we are we are gay men
Speaker 1: supporting gay men, Okay.
Speaker 2: And this is a moment, the Greg Luganis moment off
Speaker 2: the diving board is a moment that could have enveloped
Speaker 2: society and gay shame. And yet we are here to
Speaker 2: tell you thirty six years later that we are more
Speaker 2: prideful than ever. Matt, I want you to tell the
Speaker 2: people about the story of Greg Luganis. It was the
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight Soul Olympics.
Speaker 1: Okay, in the preliminary round of men's springboard diving, Greg
Speaker 1: Luganas struck his head on the springboard.
Speaker 2: During his ninth dive.
Speaker 1: He collapsed into the water, earning a score of six
Speaker 1: point three to zero points.
Speaker 2: Back cluster.
Speaker 1: Before the final dive, he received several stitches from a
Speaker 1: US team doctor and easily qualified.
Speaker 2: For the final, which he won comfortably.
Speaker 1: Seven years later, Luguanus not only publicly came out of
Speaker 1: gay but also revealed that he was HIV positive and
Speaker 1: had been at the time of the Soul Olympics. Luganus
Speaker 1: admitted he worried that his head injury had possibly contaminated
Speaker 1: the water and risked infecting other divers, and also struggled
Speaker 1: over whether he should have the team doctor about its
Speaker 1: HIV positive status. Mario Lopez played Louganis in a memorable
Speaker 1: made for TV movie adaptation, Breaking the Surface. This was
Speaker 1: the definition of overcoming.
Speaker 2: I I literally was about to say, there needs to
Speaker 2: be a movie made about this.
Speaker 1: And you know what, when I looked at the document,
Speaker 1: I thought, Wow, Greg Luganis looks a lot like Mario Lopez.
Speaker 1: And then I realized in the document, our producers had
Speaker 1: been kind enough to put the poster for Breaking the Surface,
Speaker 1: the Greg Luganas story in the document, and it is
Speaker 1: Mario Lopez. So actually, we'll never be able to know
Speaker 1: how much they look alike. We'll never be able to know.
Speaker 1: Can I reveal something about my personal history. You may
Speaker 1: always in the early days, as in the early days
Speaker 1: of the Internet and the early days of my life,
Speaker 1: in the time that I was grappling with the fact
Speaker 1: that I was maybe attracted to the sense at the end,
Speaker 1: one of the Googles that would come up would be
Speaker 1: Mario Lopez shirtless, Mario Lopez shirtless all the time. But
Speaker 1: I'm all I also to tell you something I'm looking
Speaker 1: at Greg luganis this man knows no slouch.
Speaker 2: Greg is forever a hunk. Who but Mario Lopez. And
Speaker 2: what would come up thanks to j Lo after she
Speaker 2: wore the Versace dress which led to Google in research
Speaker 2: being a thing, was I had a trope of Mario Lopez,
Speaker 2: as Greg luganis, pictures of him in a little speedo
Speaker 2: and me going, that'll do pig, That really will do pig.
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, like in many ways
Speaker 1: bo because Greg luganis dove, Mario Lopez.
Speaker 2: Was able to pretend to dive or act diving.
Speaker 1: So that you could grow up be gay, make gay friends,
Speaker 1: me being one of them. We could make our gay
Speaker 1: podcast and it would lead to us having this gay
Speaker 1: podcast about sports and I honestly feel like for this
Speaker 1: episode to end with us commemorating Greg Luganis and being
Speaker 1: able to say thank you and giving him a gold
Speaker 1: medal arbor Charlie, because that's how we feel today as
Speaker 1: hosts of this podcast. Two Guys, Five Rings.
Speaker 2: Life is so beautiful. I'm still crying. I'm still crying.
Speaker 2: This is why Greg Lugainis wins the gold medal. I
Speaker 2: just want to quickly talk about some other moments. I
Speaker 2: have a lot of moments. I mean, it's the Olympics,
Speaker 2: after all, It's made of moments. Of course, we have
Speaker 2: Michael Johnson at the ninety six Atlanta Olympics. We have
Speaker 2: the Tongan king at the opening ceremony four Rio Peta Tafatofua.
Speaker 2: Truly like everyone thirsting, the whole one of like the
Speaker 2: pure moments of like global unity. One thought, yeah, global thirstrugh,
Speaker 2: Everyone's like that is one of the most wonderful men
Speaker 2: to ever exist. Usain Bolt at several Olympics at this point,
Speaker 2: just dominating in the field. Atlanta women's soccer for the
Speaker 2: American team and women's basketball for both the Atlanta Games
Speaker 2: and Tokyo in twenty twenty and.
Speaker 1: Don't fork at the Fierce five. But you know, Carrie
Speaker 1: strug is folded into that a little bit that she
Speaker 1: was a part of the Magnificent and seven. But I
Speaker 1: love when the gymnasts like to name their group. It
Speaker 1: reminds me of like when a group of high school
Speaker 1: girls would have a name for their group of friends.
Speaker 2: Did you have them at your school? We didn't really
Speaker 2: have them at high school.
Speaker 1: One group of girls at my high school named themselves
Speaker 1: the stillett Hose still let and then instead of Stiletto's
Speaker 1: they were still at Hose. I understand, very millennial, like
Speaker 1: we want to go up to be sluts ideology without
Speaker 1: really understanding what that is, but.
Speaker 2: Like also not you're having a full grasp on the
Speaker 2: wordplay still att Hoses doesn't really roll off.
Speaker 1: And then there was another thing, so that was I
Speaker 1: remember when I was in eleventh grade, the tenth graders
Speaker 1: were named the still att Hoes the cool girls, and
Speaker 1: the tenth grade name Stilettos and the ninth grade girls
Speaker 1: who everyone in my grade would be like, oh, this
Speaker 1: generation coming up under us such they were called lish
Speaker 1: l e like we are lishit kind I kind of
Speaker 1: like that I know they were the coolest people there.
Speaker 2: It's kind of punk. It's kind of punk rock, like
Speaker 2: it's so punk rock.
Speaker 1: So Greg Luganis gets the gold medal. Congrats Gregg who
Speaker 1: earns the silver medal for all of these all time
Speaker 1: Olympic stories.
Speaker 2: Bro Carrie Strug makes me sad, like I want to
Speaker 2: give it to Carrie, give it to her. No, because
Speaker 2: what Honestly, if I think about Abby Dagostino Nikki Hamblin,
Speaker 2: I could cry almost as much as I You're so convenient.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm so happy we made that connection because it's
Speaker 1: so real.
Speaker 2: It's so real, or you know, if it were twenty
Speaker 2: sixteen and if Joanne by Lady Gaga had just come out,
Speaker 2: we would be telling people you need to put hey girl,
Speaker 2: hey girl, we don't need to keep one in the
Speaker 2: I want I personally, and you can out vote me
Speaker 2: at weigh me. I want to get silver to Appy Dacastino,
Speaker 2: Nikki him.
Speaker 1: I think it's a really good choice.
Speaker 2: And then can I pick the bronze?
Speaker 1: Yes, carry because I don't want her to have gone
Speaker 1: through all that pain for not going. We need to
Speaker 1: give her the bronze because what would be worse than us,
Speaker 1: just being like, oh, we're we're concerned for her, so
Speaker 1: we're just gonna completely overlook her achievement, Like, come on,
Speaker 1: we have to give her something. Take the bronze of
Speaker 1: your all time Olympic moments, Carrie So Bronze medal to
Speaker 1: Carrie Shrug, silver medal to the girl so confusing moment,
Speaker 1: and the gold medal goes to Greg Luganis, And it
Speaker 1: goes to Greg Luganis every day and we choose you, Greg,
Speaker 1: and you look hot in these pictures of these throwback photos,
Speaker 1: I'm taking maybe even hanter than Mario Lopez who played you.
Speaker 2: Just saying a lot them fighting words.
Speaker 1: This has been another epic installment of the Two Guys
Speaker 1: Five Rings podcast, which is now in the cultural.
Speaker 2: Like, yes, this is our analysis at the top moment.
Speaker 2: Somehow we made them very, very, very gay. But that's
Speaker 2: what the Olympics are. Listen, in the original Olympics, these
Speaker 2: men were naked and oiled up and throwing the discuss.
Speaker 2: There's nothing gayer than that, honey.
Speaker 1: Let's just say, back in ancient Greece, they didn't discriminate,
Speaker 1: all right, More on that later in this podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm sure, I'm sure. Watch every moment of the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four Paris Olympics beginning July twenty sixth on NBC
Speaker 2: and Peacock. And for the first time, you can stream
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four Paris Games on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1: And that's our episode and we will serenade you out
Speaker 1: with the tune