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Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten touched up.

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Speaker 2: Well a different kind of Chargers weekly. Chris Hayry out today,

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Speaker 2: but kind enough to join us, star of Move the

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Speaker 2: Sticks and of course thee Chargers play by play analyst

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Speaker 2: broadcast on the radio and through the Chargers App. The

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Speaker 2: great Daniel Jeremiah with us, someone who has been through

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Speaker 2: this process before. So thanks DJ for hopping in, because

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Speaker 2: you know what it's like. On cutdown day. You were

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Speaker 2: the bear of bad news. I believe how many of

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Speaker 2: your three stops Eagles, Ravens, Browns were you the bear

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Speaker 2: of bad news? And all three of them.

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Speaker 1: Now just one. So it's like it's very much an

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Speaker 1: entry level role. Once you've put a few years into

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Speaker 1: the league, they don't subject you to the literally worst

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Speaker 1: part of the gig. I would rather have a million

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Speaker 1: five am airport pickups, which I've done my fair share of,

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Speaker 1: than to have to cut one guy. I did that

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Speaker 1: for gosh, two years in Baltimore. I was that person

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Speaker 1: And I have many many a wild story from those years.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if you want to share any

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Speaker 2: let's get.

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Speaker 3: One, let me one.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna forego the one where I almost

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Speaker 1: great not a great move.

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Speaker 1: Uh, this was a receiver that was not expecting to

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Speaker 1: you know, there's no iPads, there's no digital playbooks. You

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Speaker 1: had the real binder. So my job is twofold. My

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Speaker 1: and then he needs to see the general manager, sometimes both,

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Speaker 1: and then I have to follow him to get his playbook.

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Speaker 1: And then once I get his playbook, I'm absolved of

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Speaker 1: He's not happy with me having words with me as

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Speaker 1: if I'm you know, a twenty four year olds making

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Speaker 1: He goes, I'll just bring it over tomorrow, Like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: It cost me thirty five hundred dollars. So I see

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Speaker 1: him get into I want to say it was a Corvette.

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Speaker 1: Actually, as I'm walking up the steps, I think he

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Speaker 1: Or now was really a chance? You know? Just do

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Speaker 3: Just exactly, here's the playbook, onto the excelle yep.

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Speaker 2: You know, we go through the exercise in the media

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's usually very few spots. I mean you're talking

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm you talk about a closing argument, it's a

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Speaker 1: He had already we had already got in touch with

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Speaker 2: This is right, That's what this relationship is for Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 1: a good player for somebody, something that might not be necessary. Now,

431
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Speaker 1: in a perfect world, would Easton have had a great

432
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Speaker 1: training camp and lit up the preseason? Absolutely would you

433
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,040
Speaker 1: like him to have been better, would you? You know,

434
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Speaker 1: is there a chance that there's something out there that

435
00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,960
Speaker 1: you could have signed and maybe upgrade the position. Sure,

436
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Speaker 1: but you are where you are right now, and I

437
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Speaker 1: just don't think I think that's the they're looking at it,

438
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Speaker 1: saying we can trade a draft pick for someone that

439
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Speaker 1: we don't even love, or we can have two chances

440
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Speaker 1: at this thing, which is Justin stays healthy, We're fine,

441
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 1: and then something happens to Justin at the time, we

442
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,399
Speaker 1: still have veteran options that are on the street that

443
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Speaker 1: aren't going to cost us a draft pick.

444
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Speaker 2: Yeah, makes a ton more sense. Rather spend cash, well,

445
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:52,639
Speaker 2: we're not, we're.

446
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Speaker 1: Not, deem, it's not our money.

447
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,159
Speaker 2: Rather spend your money, dean than than than sacrifice a

448
00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,800
Speaker 2: draft pick. Right, So let's get through it. Fifty three

449
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,119
Speaker 2: min roster. To me, the one the one group that

450
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 2: I thought was the easiest to predict it was offensive line.

451
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 2: It just didn't feel like Carson Barnhard those were the

452
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Speaker 2: guys was going to break in. So I will say

453
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Speaker 2: I I think center is something they could be shopping for.

454
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,919
Speaker 2: I would not be surprised if if they're canvassing the

455
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 2: league to see if maybe there was a center. I

456
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 2: thought Brendon himis was solid. But to me, that's a

457
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 2: potential upgradeable spot based on what's out there. I mean,

458
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Speaker 2: I would any thoughts on the O line and those

459
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Speaker 2: nine making it no.

460
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Speaker 1: I mean I also, you know, one of the things

461
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Speaker 1: I like about the group is that, man, you've got

462
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Speaker 1: a lot of guys that cross train. You know, You've

463
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Speaker 1: got a lot of guys that can play multiple spots.

464
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Speaker 1: McFadden being one, Sawyer being another.

465
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Speaker 3: I mean, even Foster Currell at guard. I went back

466
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Speaker 3: and watching a couple of really good reps at guard.

467
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like him better in there. And then I

468
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 1: mean even to the point where you've got two tackles,

469
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Speaker 1: you know that are you know, obviously Rashawn's healthy, he's

470
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Speaker 1: the left, but if something happens to Slater, you know,

471
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Speaker 1: all then have any problem jumping over to the left side.

472
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Speaker 1: That's where all his experiences. So you've got a lot

473
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Speaker 1: of guys capable of playing in different spots. Trey, look

474
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Speaker 1: at Trey, you know, Trey going from tackle to guards.

475
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Speaker 1: So you know, I think it's key it's important you

476
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Speaker 1: have depth along the offensive line. But I would argue

477
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Speaker 1: almost as much as the depth, just having the versatility

478
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Speaker 1: where you can always always get your best five guys

479
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Speaker 1: out on the field.

480
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that one was easy. I was surprised that

481
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Speaker 2: they kept the fourth back. I had three. That was

482
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Speaker 2: the one that I missed. But we talked about We

483
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 2: talked about Patterson being a lock as that third back

484
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Speaker 2: for like three weeks. And I think that's what you

485
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,679
Speaker 2: were talking about, is, you know, it's not necessarily what

486
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 2: people might see on game day because Caamani by Dal

487
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 2: had a great second week there of the preseason, but

488
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 2: Patterson had been solid all all season, all training camp along.

489
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Speaker 2: I should say, So, are you surprised that they cut four?

490
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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's a lot about JK. You know,

491
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Speaker 1: I think, look, JK stays healthy. He has been unbelievably awesome,

492
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Speaker 1: you know, but it is what it is. He's had

493
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Speaker 1: the injuries, he's missed time, and I think think you

494
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Speaker 1: you probably want a little more insurance at the position.

495
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Speaker 1: You know, Gus is not a first or second year

496
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Speaker 1: back either, so I think that's probably went into the

497
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Speaker 1: decision there to keep that fourth guy. But man, I'll

498
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Speaker 1: tell you what I like the I like the different

499
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Speaker 1: skill sets that the group has. I mean, you got

500
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Speaker 1: four kind of different style runners and you're gonna need

501
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Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, you're gonna need all four

502
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: of them. They're all four going to play as you

503
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Speaker 1: go throughout the season. You know, even if even if

504
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Speaker 1: JK and stay healthy, you got to keep everybody fresh.

505
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Speaker 2: When you when you lose a draft pick and they're

506
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Speaker 2: still on their rookie contract, it's always kind of circled.

507
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Speaker 2: And I know it's not a first or a second rounder,

508
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 2: But Isaiah Spiller was a fourth round pick. He played

509
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Speaker 2: in the SEC. He played really well at Texas A

510
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 2: and M. There were a lot of people excited about

511
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: him when he was drafted by the Chargers as someone

512
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Speaker 2: who could potentially make an impact. Why do you think

513
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Speaker 2: it just never clicked.

514
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Speaker 1: It's just I mean, that's the word. It didn't click.

515
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Speaker 1: I mean, I I had Breese Hall over him, but

516
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: I had him not far behind Breese Hall. I mean,

517
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Speaker 1: I think I had him as a he was either

518
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Speaker 1: in the back of my top fifty or maybe he

519
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: was just outside the top fifty. But I thought he

520
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: would go in the second round. And so here he is.

521
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: He slid a little bit. He comes to Charters. Man,

522
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: he looks the part. I mean, you get out there

523
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: and you watch him. He moves, he can move well,

524
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: he can catch the ball. There was just never happened.

525
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it was more vision. You know,

526
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: he struggled with vision. There were you know, he got

527
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: in some bad habits where his feet would kind of

528
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: die on contact, where he wasn't playing to his size.

529
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Speaker 1: So I mean, it's hard, man, it's hard evaluating these

530
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: guys and projecting them. Because college is a space game.

531
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: You get people spaced out, the hash marks are different,

532
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: You've got wide sides of the field. You can get

533
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: these guys out in a ton of space, and you

534
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 1: get in the NFL. Man, it is restricted space. So

535
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: you need guys who can make their own space, create

536
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: their own space, especially as a runner in money. Unfortunately,

537
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: he just wasn't able to do that. And at some

538
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: point time, look and it's easier and it is easier

539
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: to move on from guys when you didn't pick them,

540
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: but it's still as an organization, it was an investment.

541
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 1: That's not that's not easy to do to just decide, okay,

542
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: you know it's not happening, it's not going to work

543
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 1: and you have better options, and you got to you

544
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: got to be able to tell your team we're keeping

545
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: the best guys, and he clearly wasn't one of the

546
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Speaker 1: top four guys.

547
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Speaker 2: Now, I like the room, Like you said, it's it's

548
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: four completely different guys, and I have no idea how

549
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: many touches Kamanie, Vadel or Pattison are going to get

550
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: on game day. But it's a pretty darn good looking room.

551
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Speaker 3: Tight end.

552
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Speaker 2: They only kept three, and I felt like we knew

553
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: that that was going to be the case. I thought

554
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: maybe Tucker Fist could have a shot at it. Matt Locke, Baby, yeah,

555
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: right now they got Matt Locke instead playing that that role,

556
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: playing both ways on defensive line and tight end. But

557
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: disley Hurst and Smart and it again three kind of

558
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 2: different different guys.

559
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Speaker 3: What do you need? Here's plug one of the three.

560
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Speaker 1: In Yeah, I think that Smart was the one we

561
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: had talked about in the pregame last week of He's

562
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Speaker 1: the different one, He's the athletic one, the explosive one.

563
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Speaker 1: He gives them something that they didn't have in the

564
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: first two first two complete tight ends. Obviously, Dispey one

565
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: of the best blockers in the league. Hursta all round

566
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: tight end. But I think the explosiveness was smart. That

567
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 1: made sense. And then I also think it's a it's

568
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: an evolved way of thinking. But instead of and I

569
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: always go back to George Fant when we would go

570
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: up and see the Seahawks and they would play with

571
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: the sixth offensive lineman and we'd sit there and go like, yeah,

572
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: why don't more teams do this. You're gonna put a

573
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Speaker 1: tight end out there who's a C level blocker, or

574
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Speaker 1: you can put another offensive lineman out there who's gonna

575
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Speaker 1: be a B or an A level blocker. Why not?

576
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Speaker 1: So I think now you've got the extra offensive lineman

577
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Speaker 1: you could play with, and you could now you could

578
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Speaker 1: use McFadden as the big fullback if you want. You

579
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: can use Matt Locke as a tight end. So they

580
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Speaker 1: have a lot of different options outside of just having

581
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Speaker 1: the letters te next to your name to get into

582
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: the looks they want to be in.

583
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you know, in terms of how

584
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: they they want to play, Like right, No, that's not

585
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Speaker 2: why I was.

586
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: Look at Michigan, Look at what they did at Michigan.

587
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: I mean, look, we saw.

588
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Speaker 1: An offensive lineman out there.

589
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Speaker 2: We saw seven on Saturday against the They ran out

590
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: there with seven offensive linemen. What I was going to

591
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: say is, you know, as we kind of get into

592
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: the practice squad, don't forget where Stone Smart came from.

593
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: You know, it's a quarterback Riverside City College here in

594
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: town as a quarterback, goes to Old Dominion as a

595
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 2: quarterback his final year, he flips the tight end, only

596
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 2: plays eight games and that's practice squad development. You know,

597
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: he didn't make the active roster. He made the practice

598
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: squad that continued working with him, developing him. And now,

599
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: like you said, he's that athletic tight end that blocks

600
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 2: a little bit better than Donald Parham, who really struggled

601
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Speaker 2: in that facet. And I think is ultimately why they

602
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: moved on. And that's why the practice squad is something

603
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 2: that's important to keep an eye on because that's a

604
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 2: great success story out of the practice squad. We already

605
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: kind of got into the wide receivers. I'm anxious to

606
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: see you know who the three are though, like and

607
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: how because we know why they brought in DJ Shark, right,

608
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: he's your he can get off a press, He's a

609
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 2: good fifty fifty. He's a four to three, four to

610
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: four guy, but Fojoko looks so good. I'm like I

611
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: could see him pushing Chark for that spot and getting

612
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 2: out there on the outside.

613
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, the thing that we that we

614
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: don't know is just where Justin is with that, because

615
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: that's gonna have a lot to do with it. Who's

616
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: just comfortable with who is he built a rapport with?

617
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: Like that's gonna be you know, a big part of

618
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: that equation. So I'm excited. You know, it feels in

619
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: some ways like we haven't seen the twenty twenty four Chargers,

620
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, like it's just the way it is now.

621
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: You don't see guys in preseason. Obviously Justin missed a

622
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: huge chunk of camp. So I don't know that I've

623
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: ever been more excited for a week one. And it's

624
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: just kind of man, you know, this is not clear packaging,

625
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: Like this thing is wrapped in wrapping paper. I'm excited

626
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: to see what this looks like once we get these

627
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: guys out there. Who's out there, what's their role? You know,

628
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: how's this going to work? I don't know that we've

629
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: ever known less from that standpoint, But yet I'm I'm

630
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: maybe more excited than I've ever been.

631
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's You're absolutely right, We've never not

632
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: known less. It's we are flying blind. I mean, is

633
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: it jk is it God?

634
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 3: I don't know.

635
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: Is it like you said, Palmer McConkey Fojoko, It's just

636
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: we're trying to figure it all out.

637
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 3: Defensive line.

638
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: I do know this that Tierre Tart could not work

639
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: his way into the starting rotation at defensive tackle for

640
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: the Dolphins and was not happy with that. It sounds

641
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: like he was under the assumption when he signed with

642
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: them that that was going to be the case and

643
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: got a little upset when it wasn't.

644
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: That cut to me is he.

645
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 2: Looks like he might be the best out of the group,

646
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: and what a fine for Joe Ortiz and Jim Harbaugh

647
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: to be able to get him in there and in

648
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: the mix with with that group of six.

649
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can play on the other side of line

650
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. I mean you saw that, and look not

651
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: playing against all starters all the time out there. But

652
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: he can get on edges, he can get up the field,

653
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: and he's disruptive, and I think that you know is

654
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: not with sacrificing size either. So yeah, no, I think

655
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: that was that was huge, by the way. Circling back

656
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: real quick on JK and guess yeah before remember Princess Bride.

657
00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: Yes, of course.

658
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: So I was going to pick one of them in

659
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: my little fantasy league. I was on the clock, right,

660
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: and I went through the Vincini like, well, clearly I

661
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: can't choose the glass in front of you, just going

662
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: back and forth. Yes, never match, which was the Sicilian

663
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: when death is on the line.

664
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: So you built up a tolerance, right and you so

665
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: which one did you end up taking?

666
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: I ended up taking Gusts because of the touchdowns.

667
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: Right, and see I ended up having my draft last night,

668
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: and I took JK. Yeah, because of just the sailing,

669
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: because he was the I think he was two fourth

670
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: back I took. I was like, you know what, I'm

671
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: gonna take the I'll take the flyer here and just

672
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 2: assume he's going to be healthy and you're gonna look

673
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: up and it's gonna be fifteen hundred total yards and

674
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: six touchdowns and you'll be like, well, there we go.

675
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: The two guys calling the games, and neither one of

676
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: us have a clue.

677
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: Oh, not a clue edge. It is what we thought.

678
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: Good to see Joey Boss out there practice yesterday. That

679
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: arm was heavily wrapped, so I'm guessing it must be

680
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: a frack. I don't want to do play doctor or anything,

681
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: but there's got to be something going on there. But

682
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: good to see him back out there linebacker. You know,

683
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: this might be the group that I am most excited about.

684
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: As crazy as that I considering what how linebackers are

685
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: valued in the NFL today, but seeing finally seeing Junior

686
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: Colson out there on the field on Saturday.

687
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: In Dallas, it was fun.

688
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: Right.

689
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: The idea of him with Dan Henley Man that is

690
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: that is really exciting to me. And you'll do a

691
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: better job explaining why than I could.

692
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: You're talking about really going to be the future of

693
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: the position for this organization, you know, and Denzel Peram

694
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: it's not giving anything up anytime soon, just because of

695
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: how instinctive and reliable and dependable he is. Well, you

696
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: get a chance to see Colson that game live and

697
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: then go back and watch the tape. With linebackers, you

698
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, you talk about your eyes and your feet

699
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: like he sees things.

700
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: Uh.

701
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: He puts himself in good positions and then he can run.

702
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: And then I always love the phrase stopping power as

703
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: a tackler, So what does that look like? It means

704
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: if I if I hit you straight up in the

705
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: hole and it's me versus you, you're either falling forward

706
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: or backwards. And with Junior Colson, you are not going

707
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: through him. He has got tremendous stopping power with that size,

708
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: he can range sideline to sideline. You saw him in coverage.

709
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: He looked comfortable in coverage. So he's got, you know,

710
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: just a unique skill set to go along with all

711
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: the size that he possesses. And then then you talk

712
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: about Henley, who we gushed over last year and we

713
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: wanted to see more of him, made that made that

714
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: well known on the broadcast over the games. But he's

715
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: a missile, you know, he's got that safety background. He

716
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: is legit speed to the point where he looks like

717
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: the fastest guy on the field at times when you

718
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: see him out there. And to me, I think Junior

719
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: is going to be able to be the nerve center eventually.

720
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: Denzel can be that now, but you're gonna grow eventually

721
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: into Junior getting that that spot down the road. And

722
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: he can be the one that's, you know, the communicator

723
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: and getting everbody where they need to go. And then

724
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 1: to me with with Henley, Hey, clear your mind and

725
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: let it rip like that. That is when you're gonna

726
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: see him absolutely at his best. I got a chance

727
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: going back. And I'm sure I haven't talked to a

728
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: Horties about this, but i'd be curious and I'll ask

729
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: him about next time we talk. But it is similar.

730
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: That relationship could be similar to the Ray Lewis Bart Scott.

731
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying anybody's Ray Lewis here, but I'm

732
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: saying the roles that they played. Ray was the captain.

733
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: Ray was the communicator, He knew everything that was going on.

734
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: That was the nerves center. That's gonna be junior, you know,

735
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: trying to play that that spot. And then Bart was

736
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: a heat seeking missile that you just cut loose and

737
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: let him hit Ben Roethlisberger in the back as many

738
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: times as possible. Like that's that's gonna be the dynamics

739
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: of those two guys playing together.

740
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you're gonna go ro Kwan Patrick queen,

741
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: but we'll take Ray Lewis.

742
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: I went to old school. I went to love it.

743
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Take that corners we already went through. I think

744
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: it's worth because we called the game against the Rams,

745
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: and and if you know, going back to last this

746
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: past Saturday, Tony Jefferson was the best player on the field,

747
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: Dean Leonard was the best player on the field in

748
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: that preseason game against the Rams. And that's a pretty

749
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: darn nice depth piece to have at corner, knowing how

750
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: important that position is. And he's someone that currently is

751
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: sitting behind Christian Fulton and Asante Samuel.

752
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be nervous if you told me that. You know,

753
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 1: there was injuries and he's got to roll out there

754
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: Week one against the Raiders. I mean that sounds you know,

755
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: maybe people think I'm crazy DeVante Adams out there, but

756
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: Dean Leonard, from what I've seen, I just see somebody

757
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: who just keeps getting better and better and better. The

758
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: arrow just pointing up and he's got the He's got

759
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: all the traits and the tools. You knew that was

760
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: the case. He's been great on special teams and now

761
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: you're seeing him play with confidence. You know, on the

762
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. He gave up one catch

763
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: where I thought he got kind of pushed off. I

764
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: think was in that Rams game down the left side

765
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: he got stepped on I think something. It was kind

766
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: of a goofy. It was kind of goofy, but I

767
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: thought overall outside of one play and he was outstanding.

768
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: Well, we'll wrap it up with this DJ. The practice

769
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: squad has not been put together yet. I don't think

770
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: I'll just kind of refresh the browser here just to

771
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: see nothing new. So here's kind of what I put

772
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: together based on sort of what we saw through through

773
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: training camp and in the in the in the games,

774
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: I think Carson Barnhart played okay, I think of all

775
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: the old linemen, you know, Brent Lang, Bucky Williams, Barnhart,

776
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: Bucky's on IR. I saw that, yeah, oh that's right.

777
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: He hurt his knee and so to McClellan. So or no,

778
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: Bucky had as arm in a sling. That's what it was,

779
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: something along those lines. So so Barnhart I have, like

780
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: I said, I could totally see them looking around and

781
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: trying to find something else there.

782
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: For Debby, it's dangerous too. It's dangerous to try and

783
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: project practice squad because I would say I would. I'm

784
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: gonna guess if we're gonna go put the line at

785
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: fifty percent, I almost be tempted to say over fifty

786
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: percent of the practice squad will be made up of

787
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: guys who were outside of the organization.

788
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the ones.

789
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's put it this way then, because I'm

790
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 2: I completely agree these are the ones that I could

791
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 2: see they may be interested in keeping around Barnhardt Gerrod

792
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 2: Clark just the size, the share size of him, He's

793
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: got to be three hundred and fifty pounds. I think

794
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: Elijah Dotson's still a good, you know, someone who was

795
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: maybe just you know, right behind that group. Christopher Hinton,

796
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 2: who was active on game day a couple of times,

797
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 2: and he's a Michigan guy, right, so I think there's

798
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: that connection there. I thought Matt Hankins like had an

799
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: outside shot of just the versatility they started playing him

800
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: a little bit at safety and corner. Thomas Harper I

801
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: thought flashed at safety as well. I'm not going to

802
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: go through all of them. I would say, though, if

803
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: you told me pick one of these, and of course,

804
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: you know we always do this, right, it's always wide receivers.

805
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 2: But I just think Jalen Johnson's got such great hands

806
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: and seemed like he whatever was asked of him, he

807
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: you know, he was able to step up and sort

808
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: of deliver, whether it was a contested catch, a third

809
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: down catch, or something that was one that that I

810
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: thought flashed. Obviously, Shaneley, that goal line stand sticks out.

811
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 2: And then trom On Morris Brash what we mentioned.

812
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: I think I think you're on the right track. I

813
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: think you're on the right track. I also think that

814
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: you just look around the league and try and find

815
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: as many traitsy guys as you can.

816
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 3: That's all you would do for practice squad.

817
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: I want to get guys. Yeah. To me, it's like

818
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: not this sounds bad, but like I, if I know

819
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: you can't play at your current speed, you're not, you know,

820
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: then there's nothing I can't do anything for you. I

821
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: can't make you faster, that's gonna be that's gonna be

822
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: something that's going to prohibit you from being a successful player.

823
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: You know. I just I can't work with that. Whereas

824
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: somebody else might be a poor football player. But man,

825
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: he's got traits at the wazoo. Okay, that's what the

826
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: practice squad is for. You know, you've got all this

827
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: natural you know, physical ability. And we've got a staff

828
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: with a lot of guys who've coached at all levels,

829
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: who are developers or teachers, so and it's a big staff,

830
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: so we can work with that. We can we can

831
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: help you get better. But knowing that you just have

832
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: you have the tools and the ability to do it

833
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: versus someone else who you're like, man, you're app you

834
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: are who you are. That's a tough sell for me

835
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: on the practice squad.

836
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: So then I will amend everything I just said. And

837
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: I only have one player, Isaiah Wood.

838
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 3: That's it.

839
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 2: Give me any guy who's got the fastest ten yards

840
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 2: split in the history of football.

841
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: If I was in that building, I would say, let's

842
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: work with that kid. I want to work for that kid.

843
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: So well, fifty three man is made. It's it's I

844
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: still I almost wonder if people are so interested in

845
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: it because they want they like playing GM and they

846
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: like seeing the cuts. And this guy was taken in

847
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: the second round and I knew it wasn't going to happen.

848
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: You know, things like that. But fifty threes together.

849
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: Next week will We'll be previewing Week one against the

850
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: against the Raiders on September eighth. Hopefully we see you

851
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: all out there. Always love interacting with you the fans.

852
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: Thanks for rating and for leaving a review if you

853
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: have time to do that as well. Chris will be

854
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: back next week. I think Jalila Daie is going to

855
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: check in next week with us as well. But DJ,

856
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: I appreciate you carrying the load this week.

857
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: It's always great to catch up. And uh, we've got

858
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: one weekend of some fun college football. And there you go, dude,

859
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: you realize we're like, I mean, Thursday, next Thursday is

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Speaker 1: not far away from this NFL season kicking off.

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Speaker 3: We're one week away from Ravens Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: How about that?

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Speaker 2: And uh, and since we're in La tip of the cap.

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Speaker 2: Way to go, Carson Steel, I know you're only here

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Speaker 2: for a year, how about that after Bowl All still

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Speaker 2: pretty cool that he ends up making that fifty three

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Speaker 2: man roster. And yeah, we got college football this weekend.

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Speaker 2: I know that you'll be certainly closely tuned into UCLA Hawaii.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a Thursday.

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Speaker 3: That is no, that's Saturday.

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Speaker 1: That is very much sounds like a Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Now it does, and it's not the late one, Like

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Speaker 2: that's the one that you know all the gamblers chase, like,

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Speaker 2: give me that Hawaii game that they takes off at

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Speaker 2: seven pm Pacific, But now it's a little bit earlier.

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Speaker 3: We've got usc lsu.

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Speaker 1: Oh Mane Sunday. That's a Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Telling you that's it's going to be something. And then

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Speaker 2: we'll have an NFL football in a little over a

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Speaker 2: week for the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: So I'm right against the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Way to get in out way, be sure to follow

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Speaker 2: u DJ Move the Sticks and if you have not,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you have. If you're listening to this, you

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Speaker 2: listen to the Move the Sticks podcast, But if you don't,

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Speaker 2: it is multiple times per week the scouting insight around

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Speaker 2: the NFL and college football.

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Speaker 3: DJ. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Thanks brother,