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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Elliott. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. And it is a Monday

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Speaker 1: morning after Cowboys Texans. It's time for some Monday morning

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Speaker 1: quarterback in here on Talking Cowboys Bill Chils with Mickey Spagnola,

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us and Rob Phillips. I love the way

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Speaker 1: Mickey gives a way when his name is announced there

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Speaker 1: to all the masses, just happy to be here. I'm

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Speaker 1: happy to be here too. Rob's happy to be here,

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Speaker 1: aren't Jim always always? Grifon's happy to be here. We

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Speaker 1: are ready to break it down, and and I am

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Speaker 1: wearing my longhorn hat as promised. I noticed that. Good

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Speaker 1: on you. Well, thank you, But you're also in black?

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Speaker 1: Are you in morning? Well? No, no, if since Saturday

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Speaker 1: beget Sunday and I won't say anything else. It was

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Speaker 1: worth it, okay, And we move on now to what

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Speaker 1: happened Sunday night at in RG Stadium in Houston. Let's

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Speaker 1: let's start with just, uh, initial takeaways from the game,

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Speaker 1: just something, something off the top. What do you got first, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: I would think that the way this team plays on

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Speaker 1: the road, Uh, it's very frustrating, and I think it

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Speaker 1: challenges our common senses for some of the things that

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Speaker 1: they did do well, and yet they don't do enough

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Speaker 1: to be able to win games and go into overtime

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Speaker 1: and lose for the third consecutive time on the road.

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Speaker 1: So kind of a bitter pill for them to swallow,

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Speaker 1: I would think, and just not good enough. And we

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Speaker 1: continue the teeter totter of lose one, win one, lose one,

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Speaker 1: win one, and now lose one and now the pressure

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Speaker 1: on with Jacksonville coming on Sunday, Rob, what do you get?

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a remarkable performance by the defense

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Speaker 1: inside the five yard line to have four trips inside

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Speaker 1: the three, I think, and allow nine points sixteen points

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Speaker 1: in regulation most times in the league, that's gonna give

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Speaker 1: you enough to win a football game. And once again

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Speaker 1: on the road. Offensively, I looked up, I looked down

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Speaker 1: the stat sheet in the fourth quarter, and the wide

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Speaker 1: receivers on this team had four catches, yeah, combined and

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Speaker 1: your chunk plays largely came from your tight ends, except

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Speaker 1: for the semi hail Mary to Tavon Austin in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Offensively, that's just not going to get it done.

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Speaker 1: And Dak needs more help all around. He wasn't perfect

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Speaker 1: in this game, but he did a lot to buy

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Speaker 1: himself time get out of trouble. He needs more help

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Speaker 1: from his wide receivers, he needs more help from his line.

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Speaker 1: They've got to find a way to function offensively on

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Speaker 1: the road, and until they do that, they're not going

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Speaker 1: to win many games. They don't function very well because

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Speaker 1: they don't have any playmakers on the outside. That's the

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Speaker 1: biggest problem you saw. You've got a great example of

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Speaker 1: You've got a really good example of what that was

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Speaker 1: really the last couple of weeks, you've seen what an

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Speaker 1: offensive attack can do moving the football, by throwing the

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Speaker 1: And I know this team, I always say it is

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Speaker 1: able to throw it some. They've got to be able

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Speaker 1: to convert on some third downs. They've got to be

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Speaker 1: thrown or knocked in the air. So unfortunately, though, as

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Speaker 1: long as this team is, it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: They're going to have to be able to run the ball,

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Speaker 1: but they have no ability to push the ball with

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Speaker 1: Brian Broad has called it. You said it multiple times

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Speaker 1: on the show during the week. You didn't feel like

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Speaker 1: they could just pound their head against the wall and

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Speaker 1: run the ball. They needed to make plays down the field,

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Speaker 1: and they got some early you know, swam run after

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Speaker 1: catch Rico. But you know, ultimately through the course of

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Speaker 1: they couldn't do it. It couldn't do it consistently either.

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Speaker 1: And there you are, sixteen sixteen. You know, the defense

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Speaker 1: does what Rob said, five golden goal situations, and they

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Speaker 1: didn't let them score. Yeah, outstanding Houston. Houston ended up

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Speaker 1: at the end of regulation with three hundred and ninety

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Speaker 1: You gotta win that game. You gotta win it. There's

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Speaker 1: two things bad that happened to the Texans coming into

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Speaker 1: is and you're talking about the blitzing Mickey and they

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Speaker 1: sold out, And you're absolutely right. The quarterbacks had a

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Speaker 1: one twenty two rating against them when they blitzed, and

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and them, his staff is having to answer

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Speaker 1: questions what happened? Now they got to win, so they

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Speaker 1: they really didn't take advantage of this secondary. The protection

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Speaker 1: So shame on me for thinking that. About this second,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember in two consecutive games watching the opponent

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Speaker 1: He caught that ball? Well, And it happened last week

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Speaker 1: Dez has had a great career. Well, they're gonna clamber

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Speaker 1: And they just didn't. You saw that. Mickey's right. You

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Speaker 1: If it doesn't, it sucks. I'm glad I'm not the

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Speaker 1: one making those types of decisions, you know. For me,

428
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Speaker 1: Rob had a quizzical Look. Well, ready, guys, who got

429
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Speaker 1: who got crushed? I mean they converted a fourth and

430
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Speaker 1: one against Detroit? Right, No, he's not about before, all right.

431
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Speaker 1: Can't take it away, can't. Yeah, I mean I would,

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Speaker 1: But in the case, you don't question the coach's decision.

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Speaker 1: Defense I've been playing good on night. I mean, they

434
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Speaker 1: kept us in the game a bunch of a bunch

435
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Speaker 1: of the game. I mean from the second court there

436
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: on the fourth quarter. They gave us chance all day long.

437
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: So I mean, Chris Maden says, we got to the defense.

438
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was. It was a long one. You know,

439
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: we had a we had a third and two, we

440
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: didn't make much on it, and it just felt like

441
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Speaker 1: at that point in the game, the way our defense

442
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: was playing, the idea was depending down there. Chris did

443
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: a great child with the punt. They got the ball

444
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Speaker 1: in the ten yard line and hopefully you make a

445
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Speaker 1: stop and you win the game. Coming back the other

446
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Speaker 1: way with the game winning field goal. And actually they

447
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: had a third and one. It was third and one

448
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: and a half and Zeke got nothing, and it was

449
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Speaker 1: then fourth and one and a half. I just to

450
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Speaker 1: pull back the curtain on my night last night. I'm

451
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Speaker 1: on the air on CBS eleven as this is all happening.

452
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Speaker 1: Oh wait live, Yes, I'm on the air, and so

453
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Speaker 1: we're going through all these other NFL highlights, and so

454
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Speaker 1: I'm watching out of the corner of my eye what's

455
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: going on in the Cowboy game? And and so I

456
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Speaker 1: didn't really see live what happened. In fact, i'd ask someone,

457
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Speaker 1: so what happened? And I saw them punning. Okay, So

458
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Speaker 1: I didn't know what controversy there might have been when

459
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Speaker 1: I walked off the set last night. So I went

460
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Speaker 1: back and looked at it today. But as I walked

461
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Speaker 1: out of the studio last night after the Cowboys lost,

462
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, nineteen sixteen, that was actually a

463
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Speaker 1: really good game. Okay, when you break it all down,

464
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Speaker 1: I has you heard me? On Friday? I thought the

465
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Speaker 1: text closer to that, to be honest, and I thought

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Speaker 1: for the goal line, stay absolutely, and it was like that,

467
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Speaker 1: and so I thought, actually, yeah, I mean we know

468
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Speaker 1: what we have here. We're starting to know what we

469
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Speaker 1: have here with this Cowboys team. And it was a

470
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Speaker 1: toss up game basically, is the way I looked at it. Yeah, okay. Now,

471
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Speaker 1: then I didn't discover on my way home the controversy

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Speaker 1: about punting on fourth and one. Okay, what are Let's

473
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Speaker 1: go around the horn and get your takes. Who wants

474
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Speaker 1: to go first? I was on the field and I

475
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: told Derek Eagleton at the you know, the vantage points

476
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Speaker 1: a little different when you're on the field. I was like,

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Speaker 1: you gotta punt. That was my gut reaction because that's

478
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Speaker 1: what you live, because it was near midfield. And then

479
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Speaker 1: I go back and I watch it and I think,

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00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: you know what, though, is just over five minutes left

481
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Speaker 1: in the game. If you punt it here. Yeah, you

482
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Speaker 1: flip field position. Your defense is playing well, but best

483
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Speaker 1: case you might be looking at a tie because you

484
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Speaker 1: might get the ball back. But how much time do

485
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Speaker 1: you have if they flip field position back on you.

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Speaker 1: You're not really necessarily giving yourself the chance to win

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Speaker 1: the game, but you are preventing yourself maybe from from

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Speaker 1: giving up a field goal and losing it. So it's

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Speaker 1: a tough call. I probably, hindsight now would have gone

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Speaker 1: for it. But I'm not Jason Garrett, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: paid to make those decisions, and that's a tough decision

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Speaker 1: to make. By the way, Chris Collinsworth on NBC and

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Speaker 1: al michaels I went back and looked at it this morning.

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Speaker 1: They did not question it at all. On They didn't

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Speaker 1: as it ripened. They did not say, oh, they should

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Speaker 1: be punting here. Everybody left me in the press box,

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Speaker 1: so I couldn't turn to anybody and say punt the ball.

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Speaker 1: And that's what went through my mind. Two things. Number One,

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Speaker 1: it scared the hell out of me that on third

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Speaker 1: and one with the NFL's leading rusher, I couldn't even

501
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Speaker 1: pick up a half a yard, let alone Arne and

502
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: a half let that linebacker blitz and come through unblocked.

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Speaker 1: And then number two, it was like and and I

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Speaker 1: guess this is what I think back to. I think

505
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Speaker 1: back to dumb and dumber. I think back to load left,

506
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Speaker 1: where they were bold and went for it on fourth

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Speaker 1: down and immediately lost the game on the decision. And

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Speaker 1: this one, I know what coaches think. We all think

509
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Speaker 1: on best case scenario. Most coaches coach on worst case scenario.

510
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Speaker 1: If I don't get this, what happens, I'm losing the game.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're gonna put you put your defense in a

512
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: really tough's gonna gain twenty yards and kick a field goal.

513
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: Maybe that's you don't know that that gained seventy nine.

514
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Speaker 1: They were much better down inside the five yard line.

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Speaker 1: They were between the twenty. And if you take your

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Speaker 1: chances get the ball back, you got two timeouts in

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Speaker 1: a two minute, two minute, two minute timeout, and you

518
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Speaker 1: got a chance to come back if you stop them. Yeah,

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00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: well you didn't stop them. At second and nine at

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Speaker 1: the twenty four yard line. You give up a forty

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Speaker 1: nine yard pass. Go figure, Brian, go for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go for it. You're you've built this team with their

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Speaker 1: ability to run the football. Yeah, it looked ugly all night,

524
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: but you have one of the most dynamic running backs

525
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Speaker 1: in the league when it comes to getting these types

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Speaker 1: of down and distance. There's some creative things you could

527
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: also come up. When we saw what they did on

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Speaker 1: the goal line with the past to hearns. If you're

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Speaker 1: worried about them, you know, I would probably kill him

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Speaker 1: for being cute. But I would have much rather lost

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00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: that game trying to get that first down than I

532
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: would play defense. I didn't feel like that that they

533
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Speaker 1: really slowed down this Texans offense. You know, Mickey Ethic

534
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: said it earlier. They had three hundred and ninety something

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Speaker 1: yards of offense. I didn't few before overtime they would

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Speaker 1: up before sixty two. Yeah, I don't, I don't. I

537
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: didn't feel good at all about trying to make a

538
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: play on Hopkins or make a play even on this

539
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Speaker 1: tight end on a third down. I mean to me,

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00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: that was your opportunity right there to to to seize

541
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Speaker 1: the game. And you know he went forward in Detroit

542
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: and the Detroit game last week on the goal line,

543
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: I didn't think he'd do that, you know, And then

544
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: it rewarded him he got a touchdown. And then some

545
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: of that was the flow of the game and how

546
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: they were moving the ball in that game compared to this.

547
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 1: The game wasn't on the line when he went for that.

548
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: This what was the play on the goal line against

549
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: against the Lions last week? Then that was like the

550
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: second play they run. I can't remember. It doesn't matter.

551
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: He going forward, It is going forward through the touchdown

552
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: past the swing right the one it was it was

553
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: up the middle. It didn't make it though, Yeah, um

554
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: yeah he did gamble there. Yeah, it wasn't the game.

555
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: They fumbled, but they they weren't going to lose the

556
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Speaker 1: right they were. They were gonna if they they had to.

557
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: They were not going to stop the Texans throwing the football.

558
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: But you know what, in the second half, the Texans

559
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: had seven possessions. They forced them to punt three times

560
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: and had two takeaways, so five of the seven and

561
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: the other two possessions ended up in field goals. I'm

562
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: not gonna lose. I'm not gonna I lost. I lost

563
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: on my defense played well, they we say, but they

564
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: gave up a forty nine yard pass. Oh, they gave

565
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: up four hundred and sixty two yards at the game.

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Speaker 1: So say you don't get it, then you give up

567
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Speaker 1: a twenty yards. I'm taking your You're you're putting the

568
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Speaker 1: game on the yard, extending that game, like Rob says,

569
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Speaker 1: you're you're playing for a tie. Basically, well no, no,

570
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: but if you go for it, you were putting the

571
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Speaker 1: game on the line on that play. On one play

572
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Speaker 1: you do not get it, you lose the game. There's

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Speaker 1: a definitely, there's definitely. That's basically what the decision is

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Speaker 1: because it's it's no different in my opinion, it's no

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Speaker 1: different than Indianapolis the week before and Innapolis had a

576
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Speaker 1: fourth and four at their own forty three yard line, right,

577
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: Indianapolis through for four hundred and sixty yards in that game,

578
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: couldn't run for anything, so you know they were going

579
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Speaker 1: to run a pass play. Okay, it was incomplete. You

580
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: handed it was twenty seconds left in the game. They

581
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: complete one pass to Hopkins to the twenty yard line

582
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Speaker 1: kick field goal winning game. This was fifteen yards in

583
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Speaker 1: um in field position. Different Cowboys were fifteen years by

584
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,239
Speaker 1: the way, and so it was started at there at

585
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 1: the forty two yard line. If they do not get it,

586
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: the Texans are going to get in field goal range.

587
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that's bottom line. There's no doubt that. And

588
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,239
Speaker 1: if you get it and if you make it so

589
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: but so I'm not saying I'm not saying it's a

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00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: wrong decision to go for it. Let's just understand that's

591
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: what was on the line there. If they don't make it,

592
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: they lose the game. Yeah, well, if they punt, I

593
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Speaker 1: take my chance, right, I wouldn't take my chance. That's great,

594
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: But then if you make it, you don't win the game.

595
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but you can you maintain the ball with

596
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: the chason. But you're assuming there's a lot of assumptions.

597
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: You're also assuming that you're going to get a stop,

598
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: which you did. The reason, but you have more chances

599
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: to get a stop, and then wouldn't you didn't get

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00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: a stop. Well, the reason he didn't get it on

601
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Speaker 1: third down. You can continue to defend it, Mickey, but

602
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: he he the reason that he had a chance to

603
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: extend this game, but the re did. Okay, The reason

604
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: the coach didn't offer it in this position as opposed

605
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: to other times, is he did not have confidence that

606
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: the offense was going to get the one yard. Ken

607
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: here's the reason. Maybe they called on him because he's

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00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: part of building this football to rights. Right, we talk

609
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: about this team does not throw the football. We've obviously

610
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: said that a bunch here, but now all of a

611
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: sudden we're saying they can't run the football. Then, okay,

612
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: and that game, in that game, that's how you feel,

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00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: then that's on the head coach. In that game, they

614
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: could not run the football to get a yard. If

615
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: you look at Zeke's carries in the game, he wound

616
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: up with twenty carries for fifty four yards, had one

617
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: and brought back fifteen yards that was brought back for

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00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: a hold on Connor Williams. He had twenty carries for

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Speaker 1: fifty four yards. He had thirteen of those carries, the

620
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: thirteen worst carries went for zero yards. The other seven

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Speaker 1: carries went for fifty four yards. All right. Ten of

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00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: the carries went for minus six yards, so you're you're

623
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Speaker 1: gonna play the percentage. So my question is what play

624
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Speaker 1: are you going to run? Because you just on third

625
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: and one and a half you got stopped for nothing

626
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: almost and on thirteen of your carries with Zeke you

627
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: got zero yards? So what play are you gonna calls?

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00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm still, I'm still running the ball with him. Okay,

629
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Speaker 1: I'm still you know, for a yard and a half,

630
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: you would run it, yes, because my team, coach would not.

631
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Speaker 1: My team, My team was built to run the football

632
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: and as hard as it was, and we saw what

633
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: happened to Seattle game. They they run the ball for

634
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: three yards to carry and win the game. Okay, if

635
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Speaker 1: my if if it's on me, if my offensive line

636
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: and my running back is not good enough to get

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Speaker 1: that one yard, then that's then that's on me. That's

638
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Speaker 1: on me. I would rather lose the game the way

639
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Speaker 1: they did, the excuse me, the losing the game trying

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641
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Speaker 1: that the defense was going to get another stop after

642
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Speaker 1: the guy's thrown for four hundred yards. And you know

643
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Speaker 1: this is but I'm just saying that is what went

644
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Speaker 1: into his decision is they were not successful running well,

645
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Speaker 1: then then that's on him because he is part of

646
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Speaker 1: what's going on. I didn't want I didn't want to

647
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Speaker 1: take a swing at him because it just did. But

648
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Speaker 1: but no, I just did, Mickey, because the other part

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Speaker 1: of it is it's a confidence in your defense that

650
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Speaker 1: if you give the offense the ball at the ten

651
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Speaker 1: yard line, they are not going to be able to

652
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Speaker 1: drive it sixty yards and get into field playing for

653
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Speaker 1: a tie base. But again, that's that's said part of it.

654
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Speaker 1: That's okay, that is the other. Would you take a

655
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Speaker 1: tie now? Yeah? Absolutely, I mean that, Yes, you would.

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Speaker 1: I mean that. That is the other. It's a terrible decision.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a terrible it was a terrible decision a

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Speaker 1: great second gap. The other part of it is he

659
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Speaker 1: asked the question, if you do tie the game, it's

660
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Speaker 1: a half a win, half a loss. I didn't say

661
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Speaker 1: your your your decision was terrible, So don't tell me

662
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Speaker 1: my decision is terrible. It is. It's terrible. In the game.

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Speaker 1: You gave up before nine. In hindsight, yeah, you did.

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Speaker 1: You were you played the odds that you were going

665
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Speaker 1: to get a stop and you didn't get a stop.

666
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Speaker 1: You lost the game, Mickey. And you played the odds

667
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Speaker 1: that you were going to make it one and he

668
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Speaker 1: couldn't make had a chance. I never had a chance,

669
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Speaker 1: had a chance. I never had one because the third one.

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Speaker 1: You had a chance on third and one? Did you not?

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Speaker 1: I had a chance, You had a chance. He hadn't

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Speaker 1: hit failed He could have called it if you want

673
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Speaker 1: to run on third and one, Mickey, this team is

674
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Speaker 1: built to run the foot. Well, I didn't run the

675
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Speaker 1: football in this game. Well, you know assistently didn't. Okay,

676
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: they didn't throw the ball well either, Well, then then

677
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Speaker 1: what you have called nice jobber line with defense to

678
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Speaker 1: get a stop they didn't get. That's easy for you

679
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Speaker 1: to say, No, it happened. Yeah, you made the decision

680
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Speaker 1: to put the ball didn't work. You're right, you lost

681
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Speaker 1: to cease and desists for just a second. It's also built.

682
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Speaker 1: At what I've heard the first four or five weeks

683
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Speaker 1: of this season, the defense is the strength of this team,

684
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Speaker 1: hasn't That's what I've heard the first four to five weeks.

685
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Speaker 1: I haven't agreed with that because I've I've saw Detroit

686
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Speaker 1: last week goes seventy five yards in seven plays for

687
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Speaker 1: a touchdown. So I'm not surprised myself that Houston was

688
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Speaker 1: able to start at their own ten yard line and

689
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Speaker 1: get into field goal range. But what I'm presenting there

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Speaker 1: is by what happened in the run game, is what

691
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Speaker 1: I assume the head coach was thinking when he decided

692
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Speaker 1: not to go for it on fortu saw yes, and

693
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Speaker 1: he's got no confidence in his offensive line. I have

694
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Speaker 1: no idea. I'm just throwing the stats out there during

695
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Speaker 1: that game, where thirteen of the twenty carries wouldn't that

696
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Speaker 1: Zeke head in the game would not have given you

697
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Speaker 1: the person I'm taking the chance that he's going to

698
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Speaker 1: get a yard. And this is and this is the

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Speaker 1: new rule, the new overtime rule. You got ten minute overtime,

700
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Speaker 1: which I don't faster. I don't like that. It creates

701
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Speaker 1: more ties, obviously because you have less time to work with.

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Speaker 1: And if you know, if this is a fifteen minute overtime,

703
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Speaker 1: I could see maybe punting better than this situation. But

704
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Speaker 1: like I said, again, you punt here there's under five

705
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Speaker 1: minutes left in the game, or if you get the

706
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Speaker 1: ball back, you're gonna get the ball back with maybe

707
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Speaker 1: very little time left. So yeah, I mean, okay, we

708
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Speaker 1: can look back and say that ties. Okay, but you're

709
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Speaker 1: punting away no, and you're probably not gonna win the game.

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Speaker 1: So that sticks in my mind when I when I

711
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Speaker 1: look back on with the decision. You make great points,

712
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Speaker 1: but I'm trying to win the football game, So I

713
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Speaker 1: don't punt there yet the dead no chance to stop him? Well, no,

714
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Speaker 1: one sixty or seven, they had a chance to stop him.

715
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Speaker 1: But I'm looking at the clock too. Can you ask

716
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Speaker 1: your offense for the tie? Yeah? Five thirty three left? Yeah, okay, Well, okay,

717
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Speaker 1: you could stop him, but they could They also might

718
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Speaker 1: chew up three to four minutes o' clock. So then

719
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Speaker 1: are you gonna ask the defense to go sixty yards?

720
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Speaker 1: There was three something left, they all second in nine.

721
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Speaker 1: If you get a stop there, you're gonna get the

722
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Speaker 1: ball back with two or something left. You haven't moved

723
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Speaker 1: the ball all day in the game, right, and you're

724
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Speaker 1: gonna ask the offense to go fifty sixty yards exactly?

725
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: I mean it's with that little time left exactly. That's

726
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: a tough look. Would you take the time? Huh? Would

727
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 1: you take the tip? I would take the tie. Now, okay,

728
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Speaker 1: I'm saying this is a great discussion because there's great

729
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Speaker 1: points on both sides. It's a tough call. Man in time,

730
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Speaker 1: But why you mean take the tie? They didn't take

731
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Speaker 1: the time, They didn't get a tie. No, he said,

732
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Speaker 1: would you take what they would have tied? They were

733
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Speaker 1: for a time and you're not saying they were playing

734
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Speaker 1: for a tie. But the odds aren't with you if

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Speaker 1: you punted away to get the ball back and go

736
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Speaker 1: win the game. I don't think it's with you with

737
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Speaker 1: the clock. You had two timeouts in a two minute warning,

738
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Speaker 1: and then you move the ball all day and you've

739
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Speaker 1: had trouble moving the ball all day. I see both

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Speaker 1: sides of it, I really do. I made. I flip

741
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Speaker 1: flopped on this. I made I said punt live, and

742
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Speaker 1: now I'm looking at it, I'm saying, well, who on

743
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Speaker 1: their who on your team is gonna make a play

744
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Speaker 1: other than you're running back on the offense? Yeah, yeah,

745
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Speaker 1: who's gonna make a play? And you know I'm punting

746
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Speaker 1: to them so I can let Hopkins make a forty

747
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Speaker 1: Who's their playmates? Right? Their guy, Their guy got a

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Speaker 1: is to make it a hard flush to run the ball.

849
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 1: Why not go single back because even if you guys

850
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: go full tight end three thightands, Well, what a last

851
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: on the cowpe did a toss? Why we got to

852
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: run up the middle of the town readoption? Thanks, that's why? Yeah,

853
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: thank you give that thread. Keep the thread of the readoption. Yeah,

854
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: so he can pull that ball in it and he

855
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: could take it if he has to. So that's why

856
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: they getting shotgun. But I mean it's it's again, it's

857
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: you're relying on your offensive line and your back to

858
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: try and getting tight ends and everybody involved to get

859
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: one yard. Well they tried to get cute because they

860
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: motioned beasily into the backfield. Yeah, and all that did

861
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: was put nine guys is in the box on that play.

862
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: Ye didn't block and they run bledged and no one

863
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: no one picked up. Is that the safety? Yeah, they've

864
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: been having problems stable one number. Yeah. That blocking that

865
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: mic linebacker. That's been going on since week one now

866
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: for five weeks. Yep, yep, been an issue. All right. Um,

867
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: when you look at the balance of the game, though, what, um,

868
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: what's the most encouraging thing that came out of this game.

869
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: The defensive tackles because they were shorthanded in that game

870
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: last night, and those guys. We continue to talk about

871
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: Crawford and the way he's played, and even even Ross

872
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: got involved a little bit. Yeah last night, see the

873
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: stat that stood out for Ross. Five hits on the

874
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: quarterback and he had one play where he absolutely just

875
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: blew up the play and I think it ended up

876
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: in a completion. Uh yeah, he did. He it's real

877
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: close to swat in the hand of you know, I

878
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: mean again, these quarterbacks is a great job of avoiding

879
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: you know, go back and watch. Speaking of quarterbacks switching hands,

880
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: watched Dak throw that forty four yard pass. He switched

881
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: hands to throw it. He went right hand, left hand,

882
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: right hand to get the ball out to avoid the

883
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: avoid it getting knocked out of his hands. Those those

884
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: defensive tackles had their tongues hanging out. Yeah, even uh

885
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods had four tackles. Yeah, those guys, Yeah, he situation.

886
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: They no MALIEK Collins, they tried to use him, he

887
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: only had one or two reps. And then David Irving.

888
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: We continue to wonder what's going on there, and so yeah,

889
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: this group had you know, you give give Crawford a

890
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,959
Speaker 1: lot of credit. You know, kie On Reid, he played

891
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: a little bit, but it was really a three man

892
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: rotation in there that was making all the problems. That

893
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: that's something to encourage me because I was I was, honestly,

894
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: I was a little bit nervous about how this was

895
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: going to play out inside, and those guys did a

896
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: hell of a job. Yeah. The underman for sure, Crawford.

897
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: Crawford was amazing every time on the goal line. Yeah,

898
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: anytime you want to take Crawford's money, just go back

899
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: and watch that game. Yep. Yeah, think about that. On

900
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: the on the first and goal at the one he made.

901
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: I want to say the first two tackles the other

902
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: thing I would say. I got sick with the defense.

903
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith was everywhere last night. Made a ton of plays,

904
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: gave up, He missed the tackle the drive before the

905
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: half and then comes back with the sack. Uh huge

906
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: play in the game. It could have been seventeen six

907
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: going into half Houston with the ball to start the

908
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: second half. Huge swing play. M vander Esh continues to

909
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: make tackles and he had a big tackle on fourth

910
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: and the forced fourth and one in overtime at least

911
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: made him kick the field goal. You know, um, linebackers

912
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: are playing well without Shawn Lee. Still want Sean Lee

913
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: in the game, but these young linebackers are playing well.

914
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: He made team leading thirteen tackles. You know, he's active.

915
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: They're both active, doing a nice job. I don't I

916
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: don't mean to jinx the guy, but Brett Marr has

917
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: now made twelve consecutive field goals and that's the end

918
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: of Brett Mayor. I'm just kidding, Mickey, I'm just kidding.

919
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: And I told I told Rob, I can't remember which

920
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: what it was. I go, oh, kay's gonna miss do. Yeah,

921
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: that's just sign. I wish. I wish. I wish you

922
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: got a shot there at the end, I really really do.

923
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: I was, well, that's the other part. I was thinking.

924
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: They when they got the ball to midfield, they were

925
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: gonna let's bring that up. As far as the fourth

926
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: on one is there is that Does that enter your

927
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: mind at all to kick a what would have been

928
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: a sixty yard field goal he made a fifty seven

929
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: yard or in that same state in the preseason. Well,

930
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: then you give him the ball right there. So that's

931
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: the problem. But you're getting if Ron and don't make it,

932
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: you're giving the ball right there anyway, seven yards out exactly. Yeah. Right.

933
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: But Ron Rivera, he did not flinch sending his guy

934
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: out there for a sixty three yard field goal outdoors, right,

935
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: which was crazy. I mean, I said, okay, well, but

936
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: he had no choice, right, yeah, no choice. But you

937
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: know I I don't I didn't. Probably they didn't feel

938
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 1: good about that. They probably didn't feel good about sending

939
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: him out there for a sixty yard kick. But the

940
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: crazier things happened in this league. I personally that I

941
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: that decision. I wouldn't have probably done, but you know,

942
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: you know my thoughts. Someone and said that they felt

943
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: like if they well, if you think about it, if indeed,

944
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: I mean, the conditions are basically the same as what

945
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: they were in the preseason. It is an indoor stadium.

946
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: Hot Okay, the guy made a fifty seven yard or

947
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: sure in the preseasons, so that means that the line

948
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: to get to the at least the maximum would be

949
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,479
Speaker 1: thirty the thirty nine yard lines for a fifty seven

950
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: yard er, right, So I don't know. I would not

951
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: have done that, but you would have done it. With

952
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: ten seconds. Oh yeah, I mean it's different if yeah,

953
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: if you're but even that gets back to the Indianapolis

954
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: deal from the week before. If okay, let's say there

955
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 1: were twenty seconds left, do you kick it then from

956
00:49:54,920 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: sixty not the no, because yeah, Mickey's right seconds, I

957
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: got a chance, right yeah, I mean that's you know,

958
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: but I still I just I just kind of in

959
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: my mind just keep playing in that that I just

960
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: keep seeing number ten and number eighty four making catches

961
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: all over the field, you know, I just I just

962
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 1: keep I just close my eyes. And then I watched

963
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: the tape this morning. See the same thing. You know,

964
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: it's exactly what it is. And back on the goal line,

965
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: how about the human log down on the goal line too.

966
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: It was the the second and the last time they

967
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: were down on the goal line where they kicked the

968
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: field goal to make it sixteen thirteen, but they were

969
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: facing a first and goal at the one yard line

970
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: on the second down play is when Woods is lined

971
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: up there and he motions for Tyrone to move over.

972
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 1: When they go under center, he does a smart thing thinking, okay,

973
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a quarterback sneak here yea and a

974
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: great job. Like Mickey's pointed out two plays in a

975
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: row that Crawford made on that to but but it

976
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: was but it was the basic newcomer to the to

977
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 1: the team. You know, Antoine Woods who had the presence

978
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: of my played really well too. From a mental standpoint

979
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: that to making a site adjustment, basically, hey they're going

980
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: this way. Not often you get a starting one technique

981
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: that's playing as well as he did off the street. Right,

982
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: That's that's that's a good get right there. And I

983
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: throw out one on offense. Jeff Swim with everything they're

984
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: asking him to do as a blocker, and you know

985
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: he had three catch fifty five yards, but he had

986
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: the forty three yard or that's two big chunk plays

987
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: two weeks in a row. He's giving yeah, athletic Yeah. Um,

988
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: he's given him something at tight end for sure. And

989
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: he's given him a lot of different things. And that's

990
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: what they need and they need he needs. They just

991
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: need more help in the passing game. I think we've

992
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: said that a couple times about Rico. Rico with a

993
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: big catch first of his career thirty two yards, the

994
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: internet was going to break. I purprized about that a

995
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: good play call. It was a good play call, and

996
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: so was the swim catch too miss little misdirection looked

997
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: like they were they were crashing in on Zeke. Yeah. Um,

998
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: if Rico had caught that hill Mary at the end

999
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: of regulation, I think I think the electricity had else.

1000
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: Is that the first one he's ever been involved in?

1001
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: You think first Hail Mary he's ever been involved with

1002
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: other than practice. Yeah, I'm thinking in eighth grade. They

1003
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: probably did not. That's what I'm saying though. But you

1004
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 1: ask the way the ball was knocked. If I was again,

1005
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: if I was a receiver or a guy that involved that,

1006
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: I would play to the line and square up because

1007
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: everybody wants to try and knock the ball down. So

1008
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 1: if you're in front of everybody and just play square.

1009
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: It looks like the ball went right by his ear.

1010
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: You know that he was too far, so you would

1011
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 1: you square up and face the end zone. Yeah, you're

1012
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: getting the exactly did it kind of like basketball? Yeah?

1013
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: If because Hopkins knocked the ball down, but he knocked

1014
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: it right past Rico's ear, I'm thinking, you know, but

1015
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 1: he probably I'm asking a lot of how many games

1016
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: has he been active for? Three now yeah. Yeah, Have

1017
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: they had any Hail Mary? Had one? Did they at

1018
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: the end of a half? I have been four games actually,

1019
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: or maybe Carolina or maybe a Carolina, but I think

1020
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 1: Heston it's all. It's been Rico every there was one.

1021
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: Maybe it was preseason because I remember they said okay.

1022
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: I was thinking, okay, they think he can go remember everybody,

1023
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: because I think the pass came up short. It was

1024
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: I think it was Mike White throwing the ball Okaya

1025
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: or San Francisco, one of those San Francisco. They got

1026
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: the game run out on him, right, that was Was

1027
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: that a long time? No, that was a two minutes.

1028
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: Maybe it was the Houston game there. You're right. I

1029
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: think there was a hill Mary. There was a hail Mary,

1030
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: and they sent him down. I said, oh, that's a

1031
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: good idea. If nothing else, he'll clear everybody out. Good

1032
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: for you remembering that, Mickey, because I sure didn't. By

1033
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: the way, the game book says Bryce Butler didn't play.

1034
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: He was in on that hill Mary though. Right. Yeah,

1035
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: see you line up wide? Yah, okay. I want to

1036
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: get him some snaps next week, Brian. I know he's

1037
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: been kind of fifty fifty for you and no, no, no,

1038
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: I anything and has missed opportunities, anything different, anything's different.

1039
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: I just I mean this, he has give me somebody

1040
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: it's gonna make a contested catch. Maybe he doesn't, maybe

1041
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: he does. I don't know. I just I'm just kind

1042
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: of you know, I like Mickey's planned and trying to

1043
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: get Michael Gallup more involved than Michael Gallup has a

1044
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: couple of where you go, what you know? And I

1045
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: mean and that and that's on me too. I sat

1046
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: there in the valuated Michael Gallup is one of my

1047
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: thirty seven top fifty players. Yeah, Michael Gallup was a

1048
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: really good football player. He still had a click. Yeah,

1049
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: he's still did The tight ends total more receptions than

1050
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 1: the wide receivers. Receivers had six, two from Thompson, one

1051
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: from Austin. Swam had three, Jarwin had one, everybody else

1052
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 1: had one, and Rico had one. Five Yeah almost Yeah,

1053
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: and Zeke cad I'm just looking at that option in

1054
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: the passing game. You know, Bryce has been been in

1055
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: this system, He's made connections four you know what, I'm

1056
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: gonna start talking about Bryce as being a possibility working

1057
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: with this in this and it's two weeks in a

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Speaker 1: row that. You know, I'm talking to peep when they're like,

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Speaker 1: oh no, he's getting reps, getting reps, getting reps, getting reps.

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Speaker 1: And then he goes out there and he hands his

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Speaker 1: uniform back into Buckey and says, I don't worry about

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Speaker 1: watching this, right, you know it kind of reminds me

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Speaker 1: at LSU. Okay, so this the season stats now for

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Speaker 1: the receiving corps. Colby'sley seventeen catches I assume this is updated.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen catches, one hundred and ninety three yards, one for

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Speaker 1: eight yesterday okay, swims at fourteen for one fifty nine,

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Speaker 1: eight for fifty five, twenty two for one fifty five.

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Speaker 1: So the fourth leading receiver on the team Tabon six

1069
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: for one twenty five. I say fourth, lady, He's fourth

1070
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: in total for How aboutte Thompson has eleven catches for

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Speaker 1: one oh two, Alan Hearns eight for eighty four and

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Speaker 1: a touchdown gallop six for eighty two. How big was

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Speaker 1: the drop that that that Austin had on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: You know, you do everything right, get your feet down,

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00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: you got your hands on the ball, Just bring it down,

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Speaker 1: just bring it down to your body. But the one

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Speaker 1: they challenged and lost. Yes, yes, I don't know that

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Speaker 1: that one. I again, I'm I'm an idiot when it

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Speaker 1: comes to challenges. They shouldn't have done it. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was kind of telling Nate, I go, I don't

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Speaker 1: think I challenge this when Nate drops. Here's a little contrast.

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Speaker 1: I gave you the Cowboys wide receiver stats. They're DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Hopkins for Houston now. Hopkins has thirty nine catches, five

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Speaker 1: hundred and ninety four yards, two touchdowns. Will Fuller, who's

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Speaker 1: been hurt a little bit, nineteen catches, two seventy eight.

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Speaker 1: Kiki Kuti second game, has played two games and has

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00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: seventeen catches for one hundred and sixty yards. He's their

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Speaker 1: third leading receiver. He's played two games and he has

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Speaker 1: as many catches as the leading receiver for the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: has as far as one receivers and by catches, A

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00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: lot of them are like they're either pitches or they're

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Speaker 1: within that. Yeah. Yeah, but he makes them nice. But no,

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Speaker 1: he's they get him involved line, they get him involved, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he's fast. I just it's it's sad, but this

1095
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Speaker 1: is what it is. Right now. They've got to figure

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Speaker 1: things out with this group. They have to figure they

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Speaker 1: have to. We've been waiting. We've been asking somebody step

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Speaker 1: up either the committee, you know, somebody take charge of

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00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: the committee and be that guy. And they just haven't

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Speaker 1: had that yet. They haven't had somebody get eight catches

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Speaker 1: for seventy five yards. They just they don't have somebody that.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's I mean, we even saw it last

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Speaker 1: year and the Kanga City game where nine for nine

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Speaker 1: on catches and targets in that game for Terence w

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Speaker 1: And if in case you missed it on Saturday, he

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Speaker 1: was placed on IR So it's at least eight weeks

1107
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: before he or Travis Frederick who on football illness list,

1108
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: and the month of December if either one of those

1109
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Speaker 1: guys can come back, and then don't I'm gonna say

1110
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Speaker 1: it again, don't hold your breath on David Irving. We

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Speaker 1: asked Stephen Jones in the pregame show and he saw

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Speaker 1: that good interview by the way, thanks Brian. He said, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, personal things are still he's dealing with. He's

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Speaker 1: excused to handle that. They're supporting him through that, and

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Speaker 1: also you know he did get to practice much and

1116
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Speaker 1: they're hoping this week get some reps. Hey that's coming

1117
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Speaker 1: from Stephen, so we'll see. He was, I mean, why

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Speaker 1: are you shaking your head because of the owners of

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Speaker 1: the team. I was shaking my head on that part

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Speaker 1: of it, not you. He was set to play, he was,

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Speaker 1: They were gonna put him out there with one practice

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Speaker 1: since November. Yeah, and because and what happened was the

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Speaker 1: family stuff, however you want to call it family. It's

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Speaker 1: basically the daughter stuff creeped up again and he couldn't

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Speaker 1: leave town. Ye okay, yeah, it's really yeah, Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: about out of time on this edition of Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: I will close it out this way and the immortal

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Speaker 1: words of the Lake Great Cactus prior hook them horns, Whoa, Whoa.

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Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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