1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: This is the climal screen of a dying regime. Pray 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people. 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: There's not got a free shot. 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: All these networks lying about the people, the people have 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: had a belly full of it. I know you don't 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: like hearing that. I know you tried to do everything. 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: In the world to stop there, but you're not going 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: to stop it. It's going to happen. 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: And where do people like that go to share the 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: big line? Mega media? I wish in my soul, I 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: what is my task and what is my purpose? If 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: that answer is to save my country, this country will 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Baan. Okay, 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: welcome back, Saturday, fourteenth December, Year of Overler, twenty two, 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: twenty four. Since the conversation was so amazing the other day, 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to come back on Saturday before the Army 18 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: Navy game. Right at three o'clock. President is going to 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: be there. That would be President Donald John Trump. Doing 20 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: what we did back in sixteen is a show of force. 21 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: Since Biden, the illegitimate regime is basically blown off the 22 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: field and every other aspect just put a in their grill. 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: The Army Navy game today. Very honored now to have 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: clear Pascal in Colonel Grant Newsham. Is that how you been? 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: Not your last name? I know you Canadians. I want 26 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: to be very sensitive here since we haven't negotiated the 27 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:38,919 Speaker 1: deal yet for the fifty first state. 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: Please please take us over. 29 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: Okay, here's a question. Are we at war with the 30 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Chinese Commists Party? I must start with you. We wore 31 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: the Chinese. Are you guys just like us? Because I'm 32 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: fully sanctioned. I'm the only civilian in the history of 33 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: this country be fully sanctioned by the Chinese Commist Party 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: And it happened at one minute after noon on the 35 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: twentieth of January twenty twenty one, and Pompeo, Navarro, Pottinger, 36 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: myself and those three were still in the government at 37 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: the time. 38 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: I was out. 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: So for what we can have anything to do with 40 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: any Chinese companies. We never traveled to Hong Kong or 41 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: to the mainland, never visit any friends over there. I 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: spent years in in and out of Shanghai and other places, 43 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: and we would be pressing the bet if we went 44 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: to Taiwan, right, So the question is they say, well, 45 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: Ben and he's got this new federal state and all 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: these crazies and they're saying take down the CCP and 47 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: Lwbaijan's going to win and everything like that. But in 48 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: this town, as you know, there's a very different attitude 49 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: about the Chinese Companies Party, and so they look at 50 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: us as kind of where we may have forced our 51 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 1: way into the mainstream in populist politics and national economics 52 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: and winning elections and you know, put in fear of 53 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: God of in this regard, we've changed the discussion, the 54 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: conversation because now people are focused on the CCP versus 55 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: the Chinese people. But it's still fringey in the fact 56 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: of this town, no matter how they talk, are all 57 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: best case accommodationists and worst case collaborators. And so we 58 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: are the fringe where they we say, we want to 59 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: confront these people. You know, the book by was It 60 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: Josh Rogan from the from the Washington Post, which I 61 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: still think is the best book written about President Trump 62 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: during their first term, was was a Mandate Chaos under Heaven. 63 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: It was about she versus Trump and he said, you 64 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: had traditionally had you had hawks, right, and you'd like 65 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: put Pompeii on these guys, and then you had moderates, 66 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: and then you had the Wall Street crowd, which accommodationists. 67 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: But in Trump's thing, you had a new group of 68 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: Bannon Navarro and Steven Miller a lot of times, and 69 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: they fundamentally question the legitimacy of the Chinese Commist Party 70 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: as even a government. We should be dealing with everything, 71 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: and everything should be focused on their takedown now, so 72 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: people know when they come to war room, you're in 73 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: the hardest core of the hardcore. But and we say 74 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: it all the time, So make the case. If you're 75 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: saying we're at war with the Chinese Commis Party and 76 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: already at war with them, what facts you bring for 77 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: that other than the fact you're just another crazy person 78 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: over at the warroom screaming into the microphone. Ma'am. 79 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: They declared war on the US. 80 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 4: So if you take a look at what's in the 81 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: publications in China Daily or Global Times from at least 82 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, they talk about a people's war, that is 83 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 4: Chinese Communist Party language for being at war, and those 84 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 4: are official publications. 85 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: Those are you. 86 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 4: Don't write that by accident. And I think one of 87 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 4: the things, what do you mean. 88 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: Official there's just ones a tabloid, the others in newspaper. 89 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: What do you mean official publication? 90 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 4: You don't publish something like that in China Daily or 91 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 4: Global Times and keep your job or your head if 92 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 4: the administrate, if the regime doesn't like it. 93 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: And the term people's war, they're. 94 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: Like Provda used to be with the Soviet Union. 95 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think what would be helpful is taking 96 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,119 Speaker 4: a look at the word war. 97 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 3: Right. 98 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: Their version of war is very different than our version 99 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 4: of war. It's much more comprehensive. And we have had, 100 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 4: I mean you in the US. So part of George 101 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: Washington's farewell address was the description of the US as 102 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: a detached and distant land, which gave room to the 103 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 4: isolationists to say, we have an option to be isolated 104 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 4: from the rest of the world. It's our decision whether 105 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 4: or not to get engaged in these foreign conflicts or not. 106 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 4: And you have you can otherwise, You've got compliant Canada 107 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 4: on one side and Mexico that can be beaten down 108 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: on the other. But you are affect effectively a strategic island. 109 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 4: What the Chinese Communist Party has very specifically set out 110 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 4: to do is erase the distance between the Chinese Communist 111 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 4: Party ability to reach into the US and that island. 112 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 4: So what you see in terms of warfare, and Colonel 113 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 4: Nisham has written by this extensively in his book, are 114 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: things like chemical warfare with the use of fentanyl. It's 115 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 4: a race distance they're hitting the US. Now, Colonelation will 116 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: talk about it more economic warfare, the way that it's 117 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 4: used the wto bribery, coercion to get into the US 118 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 4: economy and destroyed from the inside. Biological warfare where they 119 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: blocked internal flights from Wuhan, but pushed external flights, including 120 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: into the US. Specifically pushed for a very long time 121 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 4: to keep exporting people who they knew a percentage of 122 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 4: whom would likely be able to carry disease into the US. 123 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 4: So if you look across a whole range of the 124 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 4: spectrum of warfare, you'll see that the tax happening within 125 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 4: the US. And this isn't don't forget cyber Obviously, the 126 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: Fifth Columnists in terms of people are taking money from 127 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: the Chinese. They've declared war, but they're also waging a 128 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 4: war through erasing that distance that buffered the US for centuries. 129 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 4: So now it's a rearguard action on the part of 130 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 4: the US. This is what you talk about often on 131 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 4: the war room. The fight isn't necessarily just Taiwan. The 132 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 4: fight is cleaning up what's here now, who's walking across 133 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 4: the border. We talked here the other day. We talked 134 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 4: about Chinese arriving in the United States and the Conwealth 135 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 4: of Northern Marianna's without a visa, illegally taking boats to 136 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: Guam and wandering around the military bases. Look at the 137 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 4: land purchases and strategic locations. So this is across the board. 138 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: It would be very hard to make an economic justification 139 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 4: for the activities that the Chinese Communist Party is doing 140 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 4: in the United States if it wasn't part of a 141 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 4: strategic plan to erode the United States from the inside 142 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 4: of sort of entropic warfare right where you degrade it 143 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,119 Speaker 4: and weaken it to get to the point where they'll 144 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 4: you'll hear the term win without fighting, but the actual 145 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 4: translation is get the other side to submit without fighting, 146 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 4: and submission is a permanent state. 147 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: Winning is one off. You beat the Japanese. 148 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 4: You sign a piece of paper, you help Japan rebuild, 149 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 4: You get the other side to submit. That is permanent. 150 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 4: You are a permanent state of submission. That's a very 151 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 4: different definition of winning. So I would argue that we 152 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 4: may the West may not think it's a war with China. 153 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 4: The Chinese Communist Party organs have said they are you. 154 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: Are Marine Corps colonel right, yes, this is you can't 155 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: get too close to that thing. You at one time 156 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: were the oldest colonel in the Marine Corps? Were You're not, it's. 157 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: Pretty close to it, if not the oldest one. 158 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: Your Your book is provocative even when I first got 159 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,119 Speaker 1: just by the title when China attacks. You don't say 160 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: if China is going to attack, why they're going to attack? 161 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: You say when they're going to attack. And the book 162 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: is so frightening to people because you go through very 163 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: specific details when they attack. Now that is the you 164 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: The center of the gravity of the book is more 165 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: the kinetic part you lead up to it. But when 166 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: you say when China attacks on that, Colonel Grant Nustrom spectrum, 167 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: where are we right now? Are they already in attack mode? 168 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: But it just are through non kinetic means. 169 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: Oh, definitely, and I would say the kinetic part the shooting, 170 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 2: if it comes, that will actually almost be an afterthought. 171 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: They've been at it for at least thirty years against us, 172 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: and as mentioned, the attack is economic. It's a chemical front, 173 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: psychological front, even where you've gotten America's elites to think 174 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: that China is not a threat, that we just have 175 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: to treat them nicely and they'll become like a giant Canada. 176 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: And the chemical warfare against us, which we've talked about before, 177 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 2: has just been astonishing and how much harm it has 178 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: caused us. The economic front that we've mentioned, if you 179 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: just want to see what that's like, go up to 180 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: place like Baltimore, go to somewhere like Sparrow's Point where 181 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: there used to be a steel mill, there used to 182 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: be neighborhoods there with hard working people. It's all gone. 183 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: And that is not just coincidence. It's not just the 184 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: economic forces at work, but rather these were conscious decisions 185 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: made by Americans who were targeted by the Chinese communists to. 186 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: I want to go back through the history of this 187 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: in that maybe we through your guy's history, if memory 188 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: serves me correctly, our involvement in the shooting part of 189 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: World War Two. The Connectic part happened on December seventh 190 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: and nineteen forty one, but the war had been actually 191 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: going on for six years. The Connectic part. You had 192 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: had the Imperial Japanese invaded Manchuri kind of kick things off. 193 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: You had the Spanish Civil War, you had Munich, you 194 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: had everything to do with Czechoslovakia and Australia. Then you 195 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: had the invasion of the deal first with the Russians. 196 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: You had the Blitz, you had the fall of France, 197 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: you had one thing after then Poland thirty nine and 198 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: finally the Russian Wurmart invades, and then nineteen forty in 199 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: June and nineteen forty one, So six years of not 200 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: just the lead up in a build up, but actually 201 00:10:55,600 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: people dying on battlefields all throughout the world. And then 202 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: in that fight, the Russian people and the Chinese people 203 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: were actually allies. You know, we had shang Kai shik 204 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: He had the Communists over there, but Laobaijing and the 205 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: Russian peasants or serfs took the brunt of the kinetic 206 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: part of that war against Imperial Japan. In the Wehrmach 207 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: i don't know, thirty five million dead in China, sixty 208 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: five million dead in Russia. And I realized a lot 209 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: of the Chinese were fighting each other, and not a 210 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: fight in the Japanese. But at the end of the day, 211 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: with what's still well in these guys, they were allies. 212 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: How did we end up in a place at the 213 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: end of that conflict that the Chinese people who you know, 214 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: it's Sunday had Senate come over here, raised a ton 215 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: of money the Catholics. Even as a kid, you're sending 216 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: money for the orphans in China. How do we get 217 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: into a situation that the Chinese at the end of 218 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: World War Two being our ally ended up in the 219 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: Communists hands and we end up eighty years later that 220 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: we've built actually a monster that could devour So let's 221 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: start with Cleo and then we can go to news. 222 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: There was a period where certain people I need to 223 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 4: jump serve to the Middle period to the Nixon Kisserer. 224 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: You don't want to talk about it as given the 225 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: country over in forty nine, because didn't we give the country. Look, McCarthy, 226 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: these guys were right about something. I mean, people talk 227 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: about the rise of McCarthy McCarthy. They lose the fact McCarthy, 228 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: what galvanized the elites in our country in the late 229 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: forties was who was responsible for the fall of China. 230 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: People today think, well, the Chinese things come and said 231 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: no since the beginning of the post war era, wasn't 232 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: Russia was bad enough with the atomic bomb. The bomb, 233 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: but at first that triggered all the anti communists witch hunts, 234 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: which I think were justified because of we're communists all over, 235 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: which China was an ally. And then the next time 236 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: you look around and Malsey tongue and these communists are 237 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: controlling it and we're out right after all that sacrifice. 238 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: So in that wasn't that the elites in our country 239 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: have always kind of been been in bed with these guys. 240 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: There were there were efforts. 241 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 4: So after the war, when the US was still in 242 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 4: control of a lot of the Pacific, including Sipan, there 243 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 4: the CIA ran an operation on Sipan through the Naval 244 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 4: Technical Training Unit where they were training Taiwanese to parachute 245 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 4: into into China. Right, it did not end well for 246 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 4: those the trainees, that's right. So there were parts, the 247 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 4: parts of the structure that were that were saw what 248 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 4: was coming, and we're concerned about it and we're trying 249 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 4: to do something about it. 250 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: Well, brother John Birch was one of these guys, right, 251 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: wasn't he a trained when he has c a guy 252 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: that that ended up it ended up killed right by 253 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: the communists on a railroad track. What up in Manchuri 254 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,119 Speaker 1: or somewhere near there. 255 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: That he's a current. Yeah. 256 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 4: So the point is that there were elements saying. 257 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: There's always patriots and realize what we're going to do. 258 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: But my point is the official in nineteen forty nine, 259 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: General Marshall goes over there, it hangs out for a 260 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: week in the mountains, and next thing you know, the Chinese. 261 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: We turned it over to the Chinese coming forward? Did 262 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: we not? And I'm not trying to be a revisionist 263 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: his historian, but these people got to look at us, say, hey, 264 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: these guys gave us up once. 265 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, And well you also had at that time. 266 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: It's very impressive actually, the Chinese communist subversion of the 267 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: Nationalist government. Now they had been working on that for decades, 268 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: and you're found within the Chinese military you had guys 269 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: who were basically in generals who were Chinese agents Communist agents, 270 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: and when the time came, they just moved to the 271 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: other side. But also working on the US side, within 272 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: the US government, you had people who referred to the 273 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: Communists as just agrarian reformers. These were honest people who 274 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: said that Chiang Kai Shek was corrupt. 275 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: And Shang Kai Shek was corrupt. He reads still a 276 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: hangover whate second, We're we're going to take a short 277 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: commercial break. Here's what we're gonna do. Short commercial break 278 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: the entire hour, and we talk about the Chinese Counties Party, 279 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: and I'm going to press my two guests. Are we 280 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: actually at war? Is this more fever swamp fantasy from 281 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: the far right, because we've always wanted to get it 282 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: on with the communists right where we're kind of we're 283 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: sad that the Soviet Union cloffs, so we've got to 284 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: pick on more Communists that we're going to pick on 285 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: the poor Chinese commiest party. Short commercial break. Birch gold 286 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: dot com. For five thousand years of man's recorded history, 287 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: maybe longer, gold has been a hedge against time, so 288 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: financial turbulence. 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Did we 296 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: turn Did the United States government and senior officier and 297 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: the Ied States government allow or turnover China to the communists? 298 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: With no? I mean I realized they infiltrated, and they 299 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: had a civil war, and certain guys are flipping sides. 300 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: But there were people over here that knew better, right, 301 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if the Chinese had not, we've not bled 302 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: out in Perial Japan's major landforce on the mainland in Manchuria, 303 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: the island hopping to get to Saipan would have been 304 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: another main guy's dead right, And it's been four years later. 305 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: One of the reasons we could get where we could 306 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: get is that the Chinese took the brunt of it 307 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: correct and I realized that they're double dealing and triple dealer. 308 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: If you read stillwell in trying to read any of 309 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: the books on it. You can't tell who's the good 310 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: guys and who's the bad guys because they're double dealing everybody. 311 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: But that's just China, because after ten thousand years of 312 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: a great civilization, you've had no to be either had 313 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: emperors or warlords. You understand that you've got to play 314 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: both sides against the middle constantly. 315 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: Right, They're good at it, and no question about it. 316 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: It's the Marines also actually actually regarded the Chinese Communists 317 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: pretty well. Actually, there was a fellow named Evans Carlson, 318 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: yes and read Mike Edson, who had been with the 319 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 2: Chinese Communists in the thirties and came and said, well, 320 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: these guys are they're galitarians, they're good fighters, and this 321 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: expression gung ho is one thatday introduced into the Marine Corps. 322 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: And you found that sort of thinking within not just 323 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: the Marines, but also I think the US intelligence. 324 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: People on Davis and Davies and these guys, they did 325 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: admire them after the ten thousands of Long March and 326 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: living up the mountains and they had to egalitarian maybe 327 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: the criminal mentality of because didn't when the Long March 328 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: was over and they got in the mountains, the first 329 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: thing man wanted to do was shoot all the He 330 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: executed all the top guys around him because he didn't 331 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: want any he didn't want me. I think she's father 332 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: was somehow involved in this or as a you know, 333 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: they didn't want they didn't want He didn't want good 334 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: guys around him. He wanted to kill them, all right, 335 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: So they always had a gangster mentality. 336 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the nature of the Chinese Communist Party. 337 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: What do you mean it? 338 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: Actually, it resembles an organized crime group. If you look 339 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: at the top management, it's all about power. It's about domination. 340 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 2: There's no idea of sharing power. All about power and control. 341 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: And I spent a long time dealing with Japanese organized crime, 342 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: and when I look at the CCP, I don't look 343 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: at a legitimate sort of form of government. I just 344 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 2: see an organized crime group. 345 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: Okay, we have jump in here. You've got all the 346 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: Wall Streets in business with them. You've got Goldman, Sachs, Morgan, Stanley, 347 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: JP Morgan. You get I'm not talking Marginalia bucket shops. 348 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the premiere produceries and Wall Street. Larry 349 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: Fink saying, the most important thing you do is open 350 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: up China to Larry Fink's financial markets. You got every 351 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: tech companies in business with them. Elon Musk. The reason 352 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: Elon must have such a fight all the time is, 353 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying, he's two in business with these 354 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: guys with Tesla and taking their money and all that. 355 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: So you have and you have every guy in here 356 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: in the US. They may talk tough in front of 357 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: a microphone, but they all want to be in business 358 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: with them. So how can they they they do they 359 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: not realize that they aren't organized crime apparatus syndicate in 360 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: nothing more than that. 361 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 2: That's always puzzled me because if you had to say 362 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: a similar situation and set up, say in North Carolina, 363 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: nobody would do business there. But because it's China, people 364 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: just go insane. It's the smell of money, what have you? 365 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: And everyone thinks what's going to be different from me? 366 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: These guys really like us. And if you want to 367 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: understand how the Chinese Communist party works, watch a series 368 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: season of The Sopranos and that's probably do you just 369 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 2: as well as getting on. 370 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: Is this racial in any way? If this was, if 371 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: this was, if they ran it was a white country, 372 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: let's say Italy or or France, or or Hungry and 373 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: the operator like they operate here with the United States, 374 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: with the elites United States. Actually, because I don't try 375 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: to overplay this, but if you look at Hitler and 376 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: you look at Stalin, and you look at Mal, they're 377 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: all monsters. I would argue in the monster gradation, I 378 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: would actually put Mal the first because he killed one 379 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: hundred million of his people, and he would kill one 380 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: hundred million more if he had to write, and I 381 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: mean in the most brutal way possible, starving him the death, 382 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: torturing him to death, right with the collectivization of the farms, 383 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: the great hunger, the great lead for it, every failure 384 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: he had, he didn't care how many he killed. This 385 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: guy was truly a monster. Don't they understand that? They 386 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: not understand their in business with the direct descendants politically 387 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: and culturally and socially of monsters. 388 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 4: So I would like to just talk about this a 389 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 4: little bit from the Canadian historical perspective, and this is 390 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 4: not something that usually attracts people. 391 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: But since you're going to be the new far the 392 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: first state according to our Beloff President, we would love 393 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: to hear since we failed three times to take you 394 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: guys over militarily, right. We would love to have your 395 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: opinion here. 396 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is going to give you another reason 397 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: to want to take over Canada because some of this 398 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 4: at least tracks back to Canada. Canada wanted to recognize 399 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 4: the Communist Party in the nineteen fifties. 400 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: It was only the Korean War. 401 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: I never realized that they were the first to kind 402 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: of step forward of the major nations because they've been 403 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: such a great ally in World War two in Europe. 404 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 3: And why did they want to do it? 405 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: Because the leftist formed the government. 406 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 4: So there are basically three things that came together in Canada, 407 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 4: which was an indication of maybe what came together here. 408 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: One was there were a lot of Canadian missionaries in 409 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 4: China and the children of the missionaries, the missionary kids 410 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 4: came back and because they spoke Mandarin, went into the 411 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 4: government and they saw the corruption of the Chankai Czech 412 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 4: era and had bought into this narrative that communists are 413 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 4: really good at pr they know how to find your buttons, 414 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 4: pushed them, and they had pushed the buttons of these 415 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 4: missionary kids that went back into the Canadian Foreign service 416 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 4: and many of the first Canadian ambassadors to China were 417 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 4: missionary kids. They were the children of missionaries. They spoke 418 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 4: because they spoke Mandarin. The other was the business element, right, 419 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 4: you got to make you got to do business. But 420 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 4: the third was knee jerk anti Americanism. So you had 421 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 4: these all these kind of trends come together in people 422 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 4: like Governor Trudeau's father, Pierre Trudeau, who went to China 423 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 4: in nineteen forty nine. 424 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: On a kind of actually it's actually matic here in 425 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: the world that that's actually cashrouble. We'll take it as 426 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: the earth, as the we want to make sure you 427 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: can get back in the country. Thanks very much, Pierre Trudeau. 428 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, so, Pierre, and then he went in again as 429 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 4: a labor lawyer in nineteen sixty and he's the one 430 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 4: that opened up Canada the Chinese in nineteen seventy before 431 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 4: the US, Canada pioneered that language, that one China policy 432 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 4: language where you say Taiwan is years and we acknowledged 433 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 4: that very wishy washy Canadian approach that the u U 434 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 4: then adopted, and immediately afterwards in the nineteen seventies, we 435 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 4: set up the Canada China Business Council, which includes on 436 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 4: its board Bombardier, SNC Lavalet Power Corp. Power and Power Corp. 437 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 4: After their terms hired for Canadian prime ministers, and they're 438 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 4: the ones that helped the soees of the Chinese state 439 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 4: learn how. 440 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: To invest in Western industries y enterprise. 441 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 4: The Chinese government companies taught the major state capitalism. 442 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: Whether the Chinese County's Party owns a stake and they 443 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: get all the contracts from the. 444 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: State, that's right. 445 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 4: And we know that when Kissinger was looking at how 446 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 4: to do his path to opening up China, he talked 447 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 4: to some of the people in Canada who were involved 448 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 4: in the Canadian pathway, how the Canadians did it. 449 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: So we've had a corrupt with Canada. We've had a 450 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: corrupt relationship with the Chinese Counties Party from the beginning, 451 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: have we not. 452 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: Yes, And it's all been based on this illusion of 453 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: fabulous wealth to be had in China. 454 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 1: And it's her business element where they've always looked at 455 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: this huge market in this kind of mythic market. 456 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 2: That's it. And I think that goes back to, you know, 457 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 2: that idea of selling what add an inch to everybody's 458 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: to the gowns of every Chinese person. You could keep 459 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: the mills of England running forever. And I don't think 460 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: that's that much different. And then when you do throw 461 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: in a dose of anti Americanism, that that makes it 462 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: even worse. But I think in the US case, it's 463 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 2: pretty much people convincing themselves that there was nothing to see, 464 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: no problems at all, and everyone was going to be 465 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: fabulously wealthy. 466 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: You have Nixon, does it strategically or geos strategically. He 467 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: feels that he's got to somehow shift the calculus away 468 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: from Russia. And at that time, before Reagan comes on, 469 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 1: they think Russia is ahead of us, you know on economy. 470 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: Is when Reagan comes in and they had the TV 471 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: does it, Annaly says, oh, well, we made a slight, 472 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: slight miss calculation. China's Russia's economy is not two times 473 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: beside US is actually smaller, and Reaganac's house much smaller. 474 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: And it says, what, it's the size of California right 475 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: where he goes. Why are these guys such a big problem? 476 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: But you have Nixon to this strategic But then you 477 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: get to the late eighties and the regime just can't 478 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: continue on with the suppression of the Chinese people, it 479 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: collapses on tienament. Yet again we bail them out. So 480 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: we bail them out. First time, we give them the 481 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: country in the late forties. Second, we make them a 482 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: strategic essential partner where they even with everything they're doing 483 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: in Vietnam and all that that, they've got to be 484 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: strategically help us against the Soviets. And then in eighty nine, 485 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: after the Chinese Commist Party has mangled everything and now 486 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: has a popular revolt, the elites of the United States 487 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: bail them out again. Am I wrong in that? 488 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: No? In fact, you look on the internet and you 489 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: see the letter George Bush wrote to Dung Zhaoping after 490 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 2: Tianamn Square massacre. It's there, and it gives the word 491 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 2: fawning a new meaning. And that's what we did. And 492 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: I would say that by the early two thousands it 493 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: was obvious what the danger was, and then we bailed them. 494 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: But Bush was not some yahoo from the premium basement 495 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: from Houston. Bush, besides being an old Yankee establishment family, 496 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: had been two random jobs, Ambassador to China and the 497 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: head of the CIA. So this guy to write a 498 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: funding letter is outrageous. Given the fact, oh and you 499 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: were a wingman to Reagan to take down the evil empire, 500 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: he should have known chapter and verse of how evil 501 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: this regime is and how to your theory, they're just 502 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: a collection of gangsters like the mafia. How do we not? 503 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: Because I think it makes it tough for people today said, Hey, 504 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: somehow this government in the business elite in the technology 505 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: lead in the corporates. They've been in business with these 506 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: guys for seventy or eighty years. That's the scam that's 507 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: going on, and now they're talking about, oh, they're going 508 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: to be competitors and everything like that. Not only the 509 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: mortal enemies. They are mortal enemies that we have had 510 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: his junior partners and or bailed out at any time. Yeah. 511 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 4: So one of the things that might want to think 512 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 4: about it also is we're talking about companies, but it's 513 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 4: actually the people they want to capture, the elite of 514 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 4: those companies. So the head of a company might make 515 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 4: a lot of capture. Yeah, it might make a lot 516 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: of money, and his company might go bankrupt. I mean 517 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 4: you know that from Motorola. So the CCP isn't targeting 518 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 4: that happening. 519 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: Any one second. We got to take a short I'm 520 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: so wrapped up in this, I'm missing my clock. Birch 521 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: Gold always on Saturday. We're talking about birch Gold. End 522 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 1: of the dollar Empire. This one you're gonna love. You're 523 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: gonna be the smartest person at your Christmas party. On 524 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: modern monetary theory. Another radical idea that came out of France, 525 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: the idea that broke the world. Check it out date 526 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: birch Gold dot com slash Bannon get the free into 527 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: the Dollar Empire, the sixth free intallment or maybe seventh 528 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: free installment Modern monetary theory. We'll be back with our 529 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: guests in the world just a moment war room. Here's 530 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: your host, Stephen k Back. Okay, welcome back. 531 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 4: You had some I did, okay, So talking about motnmentary 532 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 4: theory and the end of the dollar Empire. There is 533 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 4: another member of the bricks, India that I think could 534 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 4: be injected into this conversation very helpfully. 535 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 1: So like injecting the conversation. Let me right here, the 536 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: Indian and by the way, there the Indian Renaissance, the 537 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: Modi decade. I'll put together and both of you guys 538 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: have pieces in here. You're China experts. You're known as 539 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: China experts, and some of the top of US CSV 540 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: what are you doing in a book on India? 541 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 4: So if you understand China, you really appreciate India. So 542 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 4: a lot of the narrative that goes around China, for example, 543 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 4: a rising power will always be competitive. Well, you know, 544 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 4: India's a rising power and it's been just fine with 545 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 4: the US. Or the fact that you need authoritarian government 546 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 4: to run a country of a billion people, Well, India's 547 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 4: has bigger population than China does and it's a democratic, pluralistic. 548 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 4: All of these narratives that the CCP puts out to 549 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 4: justify its existence and to justify its behavior are completely 550 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 4: undermined by the existence of this country right next door. 551 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: And what did they say, because it's with a billion 552 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: what a billion? Four? Now in India they have eight 553 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: hundred MILLI can vote. It takes a month, but they 554 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: always get a vote. What's the CCP's response to. 555 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 4: That, trying to make the US think that it's undemocratic, 556 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 4: that is authoritarian, that it represses its religious minorities. Try, 557 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 4: it's the narrative warfare component of that. 558 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: We are But how do they justify the Chinese people. 559 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: If you look throughout the world, they blog so so 560 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: here in Africa, parts of Latin America, if you look 561 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: at Asia, you look at it's the last civilization to 562 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: have demand. I mean, so obviously absurd on the face 563 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,959 Speaker 1: of it, How can it be justified. 564 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 4: Internally, they don't let information about India come in, and 565 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 4: what they do let come in is very racist. So 566 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 4: for example, you know that you wouldn't couldn't use China virus, 567 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 4: but when there is a variant that came out of 568 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 4: India in Hong Kong, for example, they were calling it 569 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 4: the India variant as much as they possibly could. So 570 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 4: there's a very deliberate effort not just to create a 571 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 4: division between the Chinese people and the Indian people, including 572 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 4: through what happens on the border. 573 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: Right that the. 574 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 4: Indians are the are the only ones in recent years 575 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 4: to kill PLA soldiers when they were being attacked. The 576 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 4: PLA attack them on the stones and yeah, it was 577 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 4: it was more, it was they it was very brutal. 578 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 4: Twenty Indian soldiers were killed and in June twenty twenty, 579 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 4: and what was the first retaliation two weeks later by 580 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 4: the Indians do you remember, No, what'd they do? They 581 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 4: banned fifty nine Chinese apps, including TikTok and we Chat. Yeah, yes, 582 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 4: because the one. 583 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: Of them and they don't want the kids being dwarped 584 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: by the Chinese. 585 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 4: Knocked six billion dollars off the evaluation of byte edance. 586 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 4: It blocked them out of because they compete, the Indians 587 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 4: compete with them for infrastructure projects, and they thought that 588 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 4: the Chinese were getting their bid data off of their phones. 589 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 4: It also black man for blackmail purposes. The Chinese could 590 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 4: get access to the phone. 591 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: And one and the information you're saying there at war 592 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: right now, information, political, psychological, everything besides the kinetic part, 593 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: which you'd say, you say is going to be a 594 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: yawn because by the time we get there or are lost, 595 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: have lost TikTok. President Trump is the guy's taking the 596 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: toughest stand against China. Yett he's wobbing a little bit 597 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: on TikTok. Is TikTok ccp pla army information warfare And 598 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: should it be banned? 599 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: Yes, it is, and it should be and it should 600 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: be banned along with a lot of other things like 601 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: what every other app that has any connection with the 602 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: Chinese Communist Party there you have to also crack down 603 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 2: on their so called press now their media operations in 604 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: the United States as well. 605 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: What do you mean put the print because you can 606 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: get the People's Daily around the corner, So if I 607 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: can just. 608 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 4: Sorry, but the twenty seventeen National Intelligence Lot of China 609 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 4: requires every Chinese citizen in Chinese organization to support Chinese 610 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 4: intelligence operations. They're rewarded if they do, and they're punished 611 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 4: if they don't. So any any organization is required by 612 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 4: law to give that information over to the We see 613 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 4: Chinese too, Yeah, and they are. And to be clear, 614 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 4: you know, we see this with the with the Chinese 615 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 4: police stations here. 616 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 3: A lot of it is coercive. 617 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 4: They are captive, They're they're hostages of their own system. 618 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: Did they have a hole of government or a whole 619 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: of society people's war against the United States? Is that 620 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: just some theoretical thing Frank Gaffney talks about. Is that real? 621 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: Oh? It's real? 622 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: What do you mean real? 623 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: Well, you look at everything the Chinese Communist Party does, 624 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 2: and it is all about coercion. And as you mentioned, 625 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: they have said that really any Chinese person anywhere is 626 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 2: subject to following the orders of the Chinese Communist Party 627 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: and the police. They oversees police stations, the brutality against 628 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: the people who protest in San Francisco when she visited, 629 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: and they're going to go in coercion. 630 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: You have this thing. Never before in the history of mankind, 631 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: in the entire history of mankind, has there been a 632 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: mortal threat to a nation that the elites in that 633 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: nation didn't take serious. I didn't say they were going 634 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,719 Speaker 1: to beat them. I didn't say they did smart moves. 635 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: But if you go back through the history, there's no 636 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: time in history. This is the fallacy of the City's trap, 637 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: because it's talk about the rising powers. I had the 638 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: guy Graham Allison had lunch up here and I said, hey, 639 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: name of the time that the elites made more money 640 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: in the going up and Nega, I said, of course 641 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: they're going to do this because they're making more money. 642 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: But no time in history has any great nation and 643 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: its elites not known what the threat was and to 644 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: their self interest acted accordingly. Now, sometimes they made mistakes, 645 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: and he led to the catastrophic wars and they lost 646 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: Athens and sparred all that. But you're making a case 647 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: that they're at war with us, and it's a very 648 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: well thought through war and they have tremendous advantages. And 649 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: there's one part of the more than a fifth column. 650 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: It's like the entire elite, virtually, culturally, society, technologically, corporate power, 651 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: financial power, and political power are actually on their side 652 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: of the football. Is that what you're saying it is? 653 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: There's probably there's examples, of course where elites have done 654 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 2: business with people who became enemation. Yeah, I can't think 655 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: of one that's going on for thirty forty years. 656 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: This is my points and where the elites built up 657 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: the others to take advantage and take economic advantage of 658 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 1: which they created to themselves by selling out the basic 659 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: people underneath them. 660 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: This is it. 661 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: It's absolute madness if you think about it, it's it's 662 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: so illogical of how it could happen. 663 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: And one of the more insane part aspects of this 664 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: is that for decades, every Chinese elite and just any 665 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 2: Chinese person who can has tried everything they can to 666 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 2: get their money, get their wealth out of the country 667 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: and to put it into countries like the U, the UK, Canada, Australia, 668 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 2: the Free Countries and This is like a futures market 669 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 2: where the people who are most successful in that system 670 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: don't have enough confidence in it to invest in the 671 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 2: exact opposite. 672 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: They know it's a con. They want to get it 673 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,479 Speaker 1: out sooner and get it into midtown Manhattan real estate. 674 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: That's it and our best and brightest at the same time, 675 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 2: think China is the future. 676 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: Two guys have dedicated your lives to this, right, you've 677 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: dedicated your professional lives to this. What is the solution? 678 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: Not for winning, we're so far away from that, but 679 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: just to get a proper engagement of the American people 680 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: to for because you're not going to get the elites 681 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: that do. You have to for like we've seen here 682 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: with populous nationalists. You have to force the elites to 683 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: do things they wouldn't they wouldn't normally do. We've got 684 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes in this segment and then one 685 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: more segment. What has to happen to stop this madness? 686 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 4: So when the PERC comes in, You've talked about it 687 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 4: extensively here. They come in with a commercial front, so 688 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 4: they say, this is business intertwined with that commercial front 689 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 4: is always a strategic comparative, you know, they'll say, we're 690 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 4: going to help you put in a port. The port 691 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 4: just happens to have things on it that are helpful 692 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 4: to the pla. Right, But what facilitates those two things 693 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 4: always is corruption. And corruption is where we have the advantage. 694 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 4: We are believe in truth and transparency and accountability and 695 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 4: rule of law, and you'll hear. 696 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 3: People believe that we do. Who's we Well, there are 697 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: four people in this room. 698 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: No, I mean the Grundoons, I got that. But the 699 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: power structure, how do you how do you force that? 700 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: Have vexit case? Yeah, because everything you've told me hearing 701 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: never look at the history of it is the exact reverse. 702 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: They believe in feather than the nest. They believe in 703 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: money and power, and they're getting more powerful and more 704 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: They're getting more money and therefore more powerful by setting 705 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: with our enemy. Right. Am I wrong in that? 706 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: No? 707 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 4: But I have to I do have to say, as 708 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 4: somebody who isn't an American. 709 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: Well, hang on, but Canada is in wor shape the 710 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: United States. You guys have totally rolled over, have you not? 711 00:36:59,040 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 3: Yes? 712 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 4: And and what I wanted to say was you are 713 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 4: still the shining city on the hill, right, and that 714 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 4: light isn't coming from street lamps. That light comes from 715 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 4: individual Americans, right, and the fight in the individual American 716 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 4: in the belief in the idea of you swear. He 717 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 4: swore an oath to the Constitution. Somebody in a Canadian 718 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 4: military swear is an oath to King Charles. The third right, 719 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 4: what you stand for is incredibly important and incredibly powerful 720 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 4: to many people all over the world. You have an 721 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 4: internal fight going on, there's no question, but the idea 722 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 4: of America is incredibly powerful. That's why you have people 723 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 4: in the Pacific Islands or in India who still want 724 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 4: to engage with the US in spite of what's been 725 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 4: going on at different levels for so long. 726 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 3: So I wouldn't denigrate the. 727 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 4: Power of that idea and how propagating that idea and 728 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 4: giving people around the world the tools. If you talk 729 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 4: about the Solomon Islands Battleguadalcanal, there are people there now 730 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 4: who are being persecuted for trying to stand up for democracy. 731 00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 2: Right. 732 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 4: Their hope is is is America knowing what they do. 733 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 4: A guy called Daniel su Dannie, he wrote he was 734 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,919 Speaker 4: the premier of Malaita Province, one of the provinces. He 735 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 4: wrote and communicate saying we don't want CCP businesses operating 736 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 4: in our province, one of the most courageous things a 737 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 4: leader could do. State Department wasn't helpful, but Congress wrote 738 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 4: a letter to try to support him. The US is 739 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 4: many different things, and those elements within the United States 740 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 4: that still believe in these things have an incredible power 741 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 4: to help deal with the horse that the Chinese Communist 742 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 4: Party rides in on, which is corruption. 743 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 3: Go after the corruption. Everything else weakens. 744 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: She's so upbeat, right, It's no, it's I'd love it. 745 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: Your thoughts you're like me, you're not upbeat, Try to be. 746 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: He wrote a book that said when the party attack 747 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: come on, China finds a vet on the other guys. 748 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 2: But the first thing you got to do is she 749 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 2: got to have some leadership. And you've watched this as 750 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 2: long as you have, Steve. The first administration to actually 751 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 2: stand for the United States against China was the first 752 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 2: Trump administration. It was the first one that actually scared 753 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 2: them and showed what leadership could do. And guys like 754 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 2: Matt Pottingher Pompeo, Peter Navarro, these are people the Chinese hated, 755 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 2: wanted them off the playing field. So it takes that 756 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 2: leadership to admit that these guys aren't enemy, and we 757 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 2: got to do something about it. In fact, the first 758 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 2: time that you could actually refer to the Chinese as 759 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 2: an enemy or an adversary, even in the US military 760 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 2: was after twenty seventeen. Before that, if you said it 761 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 2: your we. 762 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: Forced make master. The first draft of the strategic Plan 763 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: came to me and China was not as Russia. I said, 764 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: this is not going to happen. They got to be identified. 765 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: That's why you had the first one had China and Russia. 766 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 1: I didn't want Russia included. Don't get me wrong. The 767 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: KGB are bad guys. There's another criminal thing, but it's 768 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: not at the level. China is a mortal threat to 769 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: the United States of America. Russia may be a threat 770 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: regionally to the Europeans or to the Ukrainians, and that's enough. 771 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: But it's like Persia's a regional threat to the Israelis. 772 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: It's at a different scale and a different order of magnitude. 773 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: And so even in that our Defense Department push back 774 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: it was unbelievable. I mean, you sit there and go, 775 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: what do you mean they're enemies? They're pure competitors. I says, 776 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: stop all the happy talk man was all this nomenclature. 777 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: They're mortal enemies. Hang one second, we got to go 778 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,479 Speaker 1: to a short commercial break, So birch Gold dot com. 779 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: We don't have Philip Patrick on this week. I guess 780 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: it's the Christmas season. Phillip's taken a Phillips taken the 781 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 1: weekend off. Normally have Philip on here to talk about 782 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: global capital markets. We're talking about the Third World War. 783 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: We've entered the kinetic phase of it. Over in Ukraine. 784 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: What did President Trump says? A million did Ukrainian soldiers 785 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: and surveillians. On top of that, he said six or 786 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand Russians That ark of instability all the 787 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: way from Russia, the remaining of the Balkans, Turkey, all 788 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: the way through Persia, all of it. Short commercial break 789 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 1: back in a moment war room. Here's your host, Stephen 790 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: k Back. Okay, welcome back. We only got a few minutes, 791 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: but I want you guys to dedicated your life to 792 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: this for this audience. I'm gonna start with Newshamer and 793 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: finish with you what should because this is the most 794 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: you know, we got a huge activist base, highly anti CCP, 795 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: infuriated about the city, how weak it is and how 796 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: nobody steps up to it. What should be the takeaways? 797 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: Where should they go for information? Obviously your book When 798 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 1: China Attacks by the Colonel will push that out again. 799 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: All your writings we push our people love you. But 800 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: the call to action that you guys would make on 801 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: a Saturday in December, you know, in the Christmas season 802 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: when you're sitting here talking about war and you're saying, hey, 803 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: don't pay attention to the media. That Ukraine stuff, and 804 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: with Turkey and Syria, that's all a sideshow. This is 805 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 1: as as Captain Fanel says, the main thing and keep 806 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: the main thing. The main thing is your recommendation, girl, Well, the. 807 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 2: First thing you got to do, and I think we've 808 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 2: got a chance with this new administration. You've got to 809 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 2: make sure that they continue to see the Chinese as 810 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 2: an enemy that wants to destroy us, and we've got 811 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 2: to stop doing this self defeating sort of behavior. Where 812 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 2: we funded the Chinese communists, we still are to build 813 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 2: up a military which could could take us on and 814 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 2: probably defeat us in certain cases. It'd be nice to 815 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 2: see state attorney generals, and some states have done a 816 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 2: very good job go after the CEOs of major corporations 817 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 2: and even not so ones and sue them for business malfeasance, 818 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 2: for mishandling shareholder interests. By getting into a market like 819 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 2: the Chinese market, so you can actually at your state level, 820 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 2: and there's been some very good work done, say in Oklahoma, Nebraska, 821 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 2: et cetera, Virginia, a bit in Florida as well. That 822 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 2: is where you can really apply some pressure. The Chinese haven't. 823 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 2: They've tried, but they haven't subverted as much as they 824 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 2: have most of Capital Hill. But also just this awareness 825 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 2: that these are people that want to kill us, and 826 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 2: that has simply got to. 827 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: See if you got if you had an offer from 828 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: the Trump administration to go National Security Council, Pentagon, State Department, 829 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: anywhere at the forefront of this, would you take it? 830 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 2: Sure? I would. Yeah, how many years in the core 831 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:21,800 Speaker 2: I was with them for about thirty years, just about thirty. 832 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: Real quick, for your Pascal, the fentanyl issue, you're saying, 833 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: a million dead, they understand nobody's doing anything about it. 834 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 1: Colonel Grant Neustrom, if the three things that must be 835 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: done immediately on fentanyl. To stop the crisis, in your. 836 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 2: Opinion, suspend the People's Bank of China's license to operate 837 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 2: in the US dollar system, and then expose and seize 838 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 2: the overseas assets of the Start with the top five 839 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,479 Speaker 2: hundred Chinese Communist Party leaders. Make it personal for them. 840 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 2: Those two things. You hit that flow of convertible currency 841 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 2: into China, that is what they have used to build 842 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 2: up their economy, and their military hit them on that. 843 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 2: And then, as I said, make it personal and make 844 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 2: sure all one point four billions these people know that 845 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 2: their leaders have moved their wealth. 846 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,959 Speaker 1: Over since say go full economic warfare. Start the top 847 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: and work. 848 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 2: It has got to be something. It cannot be just incremental. 849 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 2: It has to be that serious. It's got reached that point. 850 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 2: And those two things would get you a very long way. 851 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 2: And just install institute a system scheme of just reciprocity. 852 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 2: If you can't do anything in China, they shouldn't be 853 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 2: able to do it here. And even then cut it down. 854 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 4: That's remember what your neighbors have gone through because of 855 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 4: the Chinese Communist Party. So remember that the economies have 856 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,280 Speaker 4: been destroyed. There's the manufacturing has been taken away fentanyl 857 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 4: has been pumped into the communities. Your school system has 858 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 4: been completely subverted. You, your life as an American has 859 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,720 Speaker 4: been deliberately attacked to try to degrade it and erode 860 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 4: it so that you become supplicants. This is not accidental, 861 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 4: and that is the degree of the attack. So how 862 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 4: do you counter it depends on who you are and 863 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 4: where you are. But join the school board, you know, 864 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 4: run for office. Do it from the ground up. The 865 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 4: attack is from the ground all the way through the top. 866 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,399 Speaker 1: And then somebody goes to school board and say, hey, 867 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: I'm here because I'm trying to fight the Chinese Count's party. 868 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: They're going to give them a ten fol hat and 869 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 1: say you're crazier than the people. Come here and say 870 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: we've got to take the pornography out of the libraries 871 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: with the pink the librarians and blue spikedair. 872 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 4: You're here because you're defending the American wave of life, 873 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 4: whoever's attacking it. 874 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 3: Right, you need to read what's. 875 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: The best way for a citizen out here, the common 876 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 1: man and woman, to start to inform people and put 877 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: the dispositive question everything that we look at as a 878 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 1: country geopolitically, and every action we take is got to 879 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 1: look at in the twenty first century, who's going to 880 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: win the Chinese Count's Party or the American Republic? How 881 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: do they do that? 882 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 4: So I because because they're I work in a lot 883 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 4: of parts of the world where there are other options. 884 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 4: I talk about freedom versus the authoritarianism, in fact, fascism that's. 885 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,240 Speaker 3: Being exported from the Trent's Communist Party. 886 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 4: If you talk about freedom, you can bring in all 887 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,240 Speaker 4: these other allies like India and Taiwan and other countries 888 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 4: into the fight. 889 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: What do you mean exporting fascism? 890 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 4: They're exploring by that, they're exporting a system where technically 891 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 4: an authoritarian regime uses the economic mechanisms to achieve its goals. 892 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 3: Right, So it's the. 893 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: Theory of the case. The reason the Clinton the most 894 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,439 Speaker 1: favored nation the World Trade Organization is the wealthier they got, 895 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: the more that the poor got into the middle class, 896 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: they would become a liver of democracy like we were. 897 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: Have we not have our elites not actually copied their 898 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: model of state control, capitalism and authoritarian rule through information 899 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: and this is what the Trump So I saw that 900 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:41,959 Speaker 1: to break. 901 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 4: I saw that very clearly in Canada where we were 902 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 4: freezing bank accounts of people who were doing things politically 903 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 4: that we didn't like, right with the truckers, for example. 904 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 4: So you can see that kind of social credit system 905 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 4: being tested and rolled out in different locations. And then 906 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 4: that's why it's such a if you look broad more broadly, 907 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 4: some of our allies are deeply part of the problem 908 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 4: and some are potentially part of the solution. 909 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 1: Where do people get you all of it? Website, social media, 910 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: all of it. 911 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 4: So my social media, I have to say that warm 912 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 4: pose has been very kind to me. They've they've posted 913 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 4: a lot of very nice comments, and thank you very much. 914 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 4: It's I'm shy about it and you have been wonderful. 915 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 4: And that's on X. It's my name, it's Cleo, Pascal 916 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 4: c L e O p A s ka L And 917 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 4: really thank you for all the kind comments. 918 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: And make sure everybody polsitive and put your contents the 919 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: book where people go get the book now. 920 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,280 Speaker 2: You can get it on Amazon, Barnes and Noble and 921 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 2: that sort of place. And I'm on Twitter at Newsham Grant. 922 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: And you're and you're open to working the trump Is 923 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: there another book if you had to write, if you 924 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: had to get a book contract today. What would the 925 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: title of your new book. 926 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 2: Be Bringing down the CCP? 927 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: Wow? 928 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 3: Can I be the governor of Canada in the new administration? 929 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: That would be our dream. You would be fantastic. You know, 930 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: it's really amazing. Canada and nice is actually a thing. Sorry, No, 931 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 1: Canada and nice is really a thing. Honor and have 932 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,760 Speaker 1: you on here many more conversations. Really want to spend 933 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: more time with you. On the Pacific Island chain. We 934 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: have so many people that are grandchildren, children of veterans 935 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: that fought there. It's inexcusable that, given what they understood 936 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: about you want to put the western frontier of America 937 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: farther west in the Pacific. That would essentially today be 938 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 1: turning it over. I want to thank you guys on Army, Navy. 939 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 1: We can foot up. A president will be there this 940 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: afternoon games actually in DC right at not a Redskins 941 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: stadium because that's down the street here. Andy're trying to 942 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: figure out what to do it. But out of I 943 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: guess FedExField or whatever it's called today, President Nice days, 944 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump will be there. Real Americans, Vowice be 945 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,800 Speaker 1: picking up live. We're back here Monday at ten am 946 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,760 Speaker 1: Eastern Standard time. Until then, we'll be up all weekend 947 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: on social media, maybe even do a live chat or whatever, 948 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: and thank everybody for being here. Thank you guys for 949 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: being here. Many more chats to come.