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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Noory with you.
Speaker 2: Joshua shares with us as website Phantomdetectives dot org linked
Speaker 2: up at Coast tocoastdam dot com. Back in April of
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, you had an investigation of
Speaker 2: the Betsy Ross House in Philadelphia. What happened there, josh.
Speaker 3: We went ahead. Betty Ross House is one of the
Speaker 3: most haunted locations in Philadelphia. The first flag was sollin
Speaker 3: there in seventeen seventy six. Of course, George Washington stayed
Speaker 3: there to get a pick up the fly from Betsy,
Speaker 3: and a lot of people reported hearing voices in Betsy's room,
Speaker 3: crying in the basement area of the health footsteps. So
Speaker 3: we want ahead, and I want ahead. An actually brother
Speaker 3: mister Rick Warner from the moof On World to make
Speaker 3: his debut investigation with us because he had skills as
Speaker 3: a certified UFO field investigator and experience it with Moufon.
Speaker 3: I thought he could bring his skilton from the roof
Speaker 3: On World over to the film and detective talent pull
Speaker 3: at the Betty Walsaus. So we went ahead and reached
Speaker 3: out to Historic Philadelphia and booked a private paranormal investigation there,
Speaker 3: and we set up various pieces of equipment, and we
Speaker 3: only had a couple hours, so we wanted to maximize
Speaker 3: every square introduce, so we took a lot of digital
Speaker 3: camera photos. We went ahead and set up various rempos
Speaker 3: and other various devices, and in the basement area of
Speaker 3: the Betty Roffs House, a lot of people reported and
Speaker 3: hearing strange sounds, a very terrifying sound. So are you member,
Speaker 3: you know, a former lead investigator. And of course Rick
Speaker 3: re down in the basement area of the Betty Rolls
Speaker 3: House and we had a paralyge, which is kind of
Speaker 3: like a pair of Lancer said, well, it has spikes
Speaker 3: that goes up and down just like a K tune leader,
Speaker 3: all the way from green to red. And that thing
Speaker 3: was going off like crazy, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: Rick has a little rampody of scare Bear because it's
Speaker 3: a little it's a trigger object that we use on
Speaker 3: the investigations. And then, of course, you know Rick, when
Speaker 3: I had on this basically started asking questions with a
Speaker 3: voice recorder and we started picking up these very terrifying growls.
Speaker 3: I've never heard anything like it at all. They were
Speaker 3: absolutely terrifying, And of course I was upstairs doing my
Speaker 3: own EVP session in the Betsy's bedroom as well, and
Speaker 3: I started using a thermal camera and a thermal imaging camera.
Speaker 3: Of course is it's it's a point in click then
Speaker 3: let many other mechanics use on and repairing cars, and
Speaker 3: of course they're also used to locate missing people in
Speaker 3: the wilderness. So I want ahead, pointed and clicked in
Speaker 3: Betsy's room and capture what I think is a full
Speaker 3: body apparition of Betsy's spirit. And mind you this, there's
Speaker 3: actually a big wall over this uh over Betsy's room
Speaker 3: with a glass tex plexiglasso.
Speaker 4: It's so nobody's go in there.
Speaker 2: Would you say it was a friendly spirit Josh or
Speaker 2: something evil?
Speaker 3: I think in the basement area of the Betty Rolf house.
Speaker 3: From what what Rick and I were able to conclude,
Speaker 3: there has to be something evil there. I've never heard these,
Speaker 3: you know, growls before in the basement area, and I
Speaker 3: went ahead and we posted those EVP. If you go
Speaker 3: to a fanomdetectives dot org under our EVP section, there's
Speaker 3: a pair of breakdown to the Betty Rolfs house section.
Speaker 3: You can hear there's groulse for yourself, and they were
Speaker 3: absolutely terrifying. I've never experienced anything like that on a
Speaker 3: paranorl investigation ever. And then of course I got another
Speaker 3: ev P up in the U. I take in one
Speaker 3: of Betty's old hustan's room up in the upstairs area
Speaker 3: of the Betsy Ross Health and there we went ahead
Speaker 3: and set up another evper core and I got this
Speaker 3: EVP that says I've been here too, So that to
Speaker 3: me was kind of mentioned that might have been one
Speaker 3: of Betty's husbands, John Rolfs, who died back, you know,
Speaker 3: late around the time seventeen seventy three, a couple of
Speaker 3: years right around the Boston Teeth part a couple of
Speaker 3: years after that, but also before the forming of our
Speaker 3: country in seventeen seventy six. So I believe that his
Speaker 3: spirit is very prevalent there. And mind you, he's also
Speaker 3: buried next to Betsy's on the property when you go
Speaker 3: to this house. So this is a very historic house
Speaker 3: and they do free tours every day so for us
Speaker 3: to experience, you know, equipment going off, and of course
Speaker 3: we also had batteries being drained on our various EMF meters.
Speaker 2: I mean that was that happens a lot, doesn't.
Speaker 4: It, Absolutely, it sure does.
Speaker 3: And we would have we would constantly have to change
Speaker 3: out like we on the midle meter. We would have
Speaker 3: like a nine volt battery go bad and then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden we would scan it.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: At the Betsy Ross, I was trying to scan more
Speaker 3: MF heres, it was just another one would just die
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden it would just work
Speaker 3: again like a power later and when the batteries are dead.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of a weird phenomena that spirits the
Speaker 3: law of energy, the states of energy to move from
Speaker 3: one form of another, but also you know, cannot be
Speaker 3: modified in or created nor destroyed that this energy in
Speaker 3: order to the spirit that manifest themselves, it has to
Speaker 3: use elect magnetic fields to show themselves. So we actually
Speaker 3: captured a lot of stuff that night, and of course
Speaker 3: on one of my voice recorders, I also asked the
Speaker 3: question I started reporting hearing a woman's voice of crying
Speaker 3: like you know, help me, help me, that kind of thing.
Speaker 3: So that was very very might have been the best
Speaker 3: the spirit in the basement area. So herstre very prevalent
Speaker 3: at that heuse and I think that she's still there
Speaker 3: like checking up on things.
Speaker 2: Would you say that this was the scariest location you've
Speaker 2: looked at or.
Speaker 4: This is just one of many one of the scariest
Speaker 4: locations that.
Speaker 3: We had done. You know, this rate in Philadelphia. There's
Speaker 3: this guy's apartment that was in Philadelphia, of course, and
Speaker 3: we were there in August of twenty twenty one. This
Speaker 3: client name was Ja c Uh. He went ahead and
Speaker 3: actually you know, reached out to me through our website
Speaker 3: and of course this case was just recently documented and
Speaker 3: Haunted magazine, and this client was very given us a
Speaker 3: lot of things that he had before the investigation. Of course,
Speaker 3: Rick did an interview with him before this investigation and
Speaker 3: he started, you know, talking to Rick adult his experiences,
Speaker 3: the strange markings on his legs. There was a security
Speaker 3: camera supposedly set up in this guy's apartment where his
Speaker 3: bed shecheets were being pulled off.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: There were voices heard and numerous ghostly faces were.
Speaker 3: Captured on this guy's security camera. And also you know,
Speaker 3: there was also a lot of potential like in the
Speaker 3: signs of the possible alien UFO abduction h things going on.
Speaker 3: So this uh was actually this para investigation was actually
Speaker 3: documented on Dark Hour Paranormal. Who's you know a Dark
Speaker 3: Hour paranorval course is a huge YouTube channel. And from
Speaker 3: the minute that we booked that investigation in August at
Speaker 3: two thousand and twenty one and a minute that we
Speaker 3: went there, us investigator started feeling very dreamed, like something
Speaker 3: was just knocking the wind right out of us. And
Speaker 3: of course Melissa our psychic medium, she is a course
Speaker 3: of a cotege of Cindy Kaza from the show The
Speaker 3: holdser Files. Of course Cindy recommended Melissa to us. She's
Speaker 3: a claire audience, but she can hear the dead.
Speaker 4: She's a claire voyant where she can see the dead,
Speaker 4: and of course she's a.
Speaker 3: Claire sending it. She can sense the dead, and she
Speaker 3: was actually picking up on the spirit of an older
Speaker 3: woman who was there with her daughter who was middle aged. Then,
Speaker 3: of course, when we actually set up asking questions on
Speaker 3: the Dalising Rods, Rick would run the Dalising Rods and
Speaker 3: of course they started crossing for yes, and we asked
Speaker 3: us there is this a male spirit here, and we
Speaker 3: actually picked up on a nineteen year old that had
Speaker 3: taken his life on the property. And then you know,
Speaker 3: like an hour later, we started just trying to you know,
Speaker 3: run the AM and F and sweep on the ghost box,
Speaker 3: trying to see if we can take up.
Speaker 4: Any kind of spirit voices on this uh.
Speaker 3: You know device of course, using we use the PSB
Speaker 3: seven on that investigation, developed by world renowned paranormal investigator
Speaker 3: Gary Galka, And we scanned the AM and F and
Speaker 3: stations and we started what we call the potty mouse.
Speaker 3: So we started hearing these curse words on the AMMFM sweep.
Speaker 2: And I've never don't repeat them, Josh, don't repeat them.
Speaker 4: We won't repeat him on that.
Speaker 3: But they were potty mouse star, it's actually like to
Speaker 3: call them. So we went ahead and started picking that up.
Speaker 3: But that was kind of weird. We're doing phantom time.
Speaker 3: We started asking questions on our voices and one of
Speaker 3: the actual EVPs that we captured, we.
Speaker 4: Melissa asked a question, is there an older woman here?
Speaker 4: Is this her home?
Speaker 3: And we got this strange VP, I said, right here,
Speaker 3: So I have no reasonable explanation.
Speaker 4: So there was like a spirit there that was.
Speaker 3: Trying to communicate with us, trying to whisper and let
Speaker 3: us know, hey, there's sell us here. So our conclusions
Speaker 3: from that investigation that there was at least three spirits
Speaker 3: haunting that property, and you know, it was you know,
Speaker 3: completely amazing. And so for us to basically get to
Speaker 3: feel like completely have the wind taken right out of us,
Speaker 3: and of course I started feeling a lot of pressure
Speaker 3: on my chest. And then of course Rick went ahead
Speaker 3: and took a thermal picture you can see, like a
Speaker 3: silhouette of a partial body apparition right next to the
Speaker 3: area where the nineteen year old supposedly took his life.
Speaker 4: So that was a very.
Speaker 3: Terrifying experience in that investigation, still shaking to this core
Speaker 3: to this day.
Speaker 4: George.
Speaker 2: I believe that there is a place called the Pennhurst
Speaker 2: Asylum in Pennsylvania. You were there back in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: This was a deplorable place, as you know, Joshua. They
Speaker 2: shackled children to beds, they lived in their own excremented.
Speaker 2: It was horrible. But what kind of activity did you
Speaker 2: pick up there?
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, the Betsy Ross House of course, sorry, drug.
Speaker 3: Pedhurst Asylum is a variant. This is actually a place
Speaker 3: that has won the most terrifying places in Pennsylvania. It
Speaker 3: was opened in nineteen oh eight as a place that
Speaker 3: the mentally disabled. The first buildings that created were these
Speaker 3: growth dining room, the administration buildings in May Swallow Buildings
Speaker 3: and of course it closed in nineteen eighty seven to
Speaker 3: many people over the years of forty hearing bangs, the
Speaker 3: laughter of children, also footsteps. And my former team member
Speaker 3: and I this is my originally investigator and Fans Detectives
Speaker 3: were there in August of two thousand and eighteen, and quite.
Speaker 4: Luckily when we were there in two two years.
Speaker 3: Before Phanta Detectives was formed, we actually had the opportunity.
Speaker 3: Grant Wilson was there from Ghost Huntings, so he went
Speaker 3: ahead and gave us a lesson a session because we
Speaker 3: actually just purchased these digital Thousing SOLS camera And of
Speaker 3: course the SOLS camera is.
Speaker 4: A really cool device. It uses Xbox.
Speaker 3: Technology to scan. You know what it does is it maps.
Speaker 3: If you hold it in one place against a solid wall,
Speaker 3: you'll actually pick up like spirits that are unseen to
Speaker 3: the naked eye. So using this SLS camera, he showed
Speaker 3: us how to use it and it was fantastic. So
Speaker 3: we actually started up when we were there at the
Speaker 3: may Fire Building, Grant and I and our former team member.
Speaker 3: We're actually in the may Fire Building on the second floor.
Speaker 3: We started hearing banging and then we go up there
Speaker 3: it would stop, and all of a sudden. We would
Speaker 3: have rempods set up in the various areas of the
Speaker 3: Mayflower Building, and of course when we would the rempod
Speaker 3: we would go up the other floor of the rempod
Speaker 3: would stop. So these remind you these are motion center devices.
Speaker 3: And then of course we would take temperature readings in
Speaker 3: the Mayflower Building and we noticed that the temperature dropped
Speaker 3: from usually lay around the seventy degrees all the way down.
Speaker 4: To sixty two sixty one.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of things going on, and of
Speaker 3: course we started hearing the laughter of children. And one
Speaker 3: of the things that really shook me to the core
Speaker 3: when we went down to the bottom of the Philadelphia Building,
Speaker 3: which is like you know what, there was actually a
Speaker 3: couple place that is open to the public where you
Speaker 3: can do public paranormal investigations at Penhurst and in the
Speaker 3: Philadelphia Building. My formal team member and I were taking
Speaker 3: thermal camera pictures just like it's a point and clicks device,
Speaker 3: very easy, and you can tell like if it's a
Speaker 3: living person, it'll come up as an orange or as
Speaker 3: or I read on the dermal camera and there we
Speaker 3: saw a rusted out iron door with these you know,
Speaker 3: cold feet on them, and I have no reasonable explanation
Speaker 3: how they were there. So we went ahead and just
Speaker 3: point cut and drafted and documented that piece of evidence.
Speaker 3: And that was, of course when I was on another
Speaker 3: team at that time.
Speaker 4: So for us to get those you know.
Speaker 3: Strange footprints on the busted out iron door, it's still
Speaker 3: amazes me to this day.
Speaker 2: George, have you ever been hurt in an investigation?
Speaker 3: We have not been hurt yet on a investigation yet,
Speaker 3: but I'm going to say that there are times where
Speaker 3: we have to be very very careful and bless ourselves.
Speaker 4: A lot of times.
Speaker 3: We would do a investigation at another place called Booby's
Speaker 3: Brilliant in May of twenty twenty one, and of course
Speaker 3: Rick Warner who basically run with running the ghost Box
Speaker 3: in the Catacombs, and of course this brewery. Mind you
Speaker 3: goes back to like the eighteen fifties, eighteen sixties and
Speaker 3: there Rick reported like having feel like he is having
Speaker 3: strange a lot of pressure on his chest. And of
Speaker 3: course we just did a case in November where you know,
Speaker 3: Rick was getting that same kind of pressure with that case.
Speaker 3: So it's got to be very careful. So usually we
Speaker 3: come in as you know, very experienced. We know exactly
Speaker 3: what we're getting involved with. So what we do is
Speaker 3: we prepare ourselves to make sure every case we do
Speaker 3: we always say Saint Michael the Archangel's.
Speaker 4: Prayer, We pour holy water on ourselves.
Speaker 3: We also make sure that we have a rosary around us,
Speaker 3: and of course we burn stage.
Speaker 4: So we make sure you do it all, you do
Speaker 4: it all.
Speaker 2: We're going to take calls next hour with Joshua Chairs
Speaker 2: about the paranormal. There are four kinds of hauntings. Residual, intelligent, poltergeison,
Speaker 2: inhuman griefly tell us about residual.
Speaker 3: Yes, so a residual haunting, of course, are like past
Speaker 3: events that are kind of like a like a tape
Speaker 3: recorder that plays itself over and over again. Think of
Speaker 3: Gettysburg and the battle for fifty thousand people had lost
Speaker 3: their lives, and you know that is like kind of
Speaker 3: like a place memory something that was embedded in the
Speaker 3: environment that would be classified as a residual haunting. An
Speaker 3: intelligent haunting is where anything that can spirit that can
Speaker 3: directly interact with the living. That includes making voices, setting
Speaker 3: off equipment, talking on a voice recorder, opening doors.
Speaker 4: So those are a.
Speaker 3: Kind of spirit that can directly interact with the living.
Speaker 3: And of course there are demonic contings, which are we
Speaker 3: like to stand detectives to find a demonic content as
Speaker 3: a negative energy that praise on the living, that they
Speaker 3: can scratch people, they can you know, affect them emotionally physically.
Speaker 2: The same as poultergeis haunting.
Speaker 3: Poultergeis haunting is a little different because there's a great case,
Speaker 3: good example of this case is there's a case of
Speaker 3: an Unboffel, Washington with this guy named Keith slender Uh.
Speaker 3: They wrote a book called the Boffel Hell House with
Speaker 3: his girlfriend Tina, and of course there was levitating plants
Speaker 3: and stuffing is throwing around their apartments there. So that's
Speaker 3: a great example of a poultergeist, the spirit that can
Speaker 3: throw objects around and you know, all over the place.
Speaker 4: So that's what we call they were. They were noisy ghosts.
Speaker 4: So those are the four.
Speaker 3: Kinds of classifications of haunting. Pulpriitgrite which stroys things around
Speaker 3: and move things around. Also the demonic hauntings that can
Speaker 3: pray on the living, you know, affect them, you know,
Speaker 3: negative entities, intelligence hauntings which are human spirits as directly
Speaker 3: interact with the living, and indigital hauntings which are past.
Speaker 2: Events, scary things. But you keep doing that.
Speaker 4: You enjoy it absolutely.
Speaker 3: It's a passion of mine to help people and we
Speaker 3: always try to push ourselves to get better with every investigation.
Speaker 4: To learn and to grow. And of course we have
Speaker 4: the world.
Speaker 3: Renowned psychic lawyer on our team, Mark Anthony too, who
Speaker 3: actually is going to be joining us in July for
Speaker 3: an investigation and marked in with us for the past
Speaker 3: two and a half years. He worked with us remotely
Speaker 3: from Florida.
Speaker 2: He's a good guy.
Speaker 3: He is an amazing guy and just such a very
Speaker 3: humble guy too that he helps us a lot behind
Speaker 3: the scenes.
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