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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Noory with you.

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Speaker 2: Joshua shares with us as website Phantomdetectives dot org linked

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Speaker 2: up at Coast tocoastdam dot com. Back in April of

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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, you had an investigation of

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Speaker 2: the Betsy Ross House in Philadelphia. What happened there, josh.

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Speaker 3: We went ahead. Betty Ross House is one of the

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Speaker 3: most haunted locations in Philadelphia. The first flag was sollin

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Speaker 3: there in seventeen seventy six. Of course, George Washington stayed

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Speaker 3: there to get a pick up the fly from Betsy,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of people reported hearing voices in Betsy's room,

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Speaker 3: crying in the basement area of the health footsteps. So

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Speaker 3: we want ahead, and I want ahead. An actually brother

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Speaker 3: mister Rick Warner from the moof On World to make

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Speaker 3: his debut investigation with us because he had skills as

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Speaker 3: a certified UFO field investigator and experience it with Moufon.

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Speaker 3: I thought he could bring his skilton from the roof

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Speaker 3: On World over to the film and detective talent pull

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Speaker 3: at the Betty Walsaus. So we went ahead and reached

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Speaker 3: out to Historic Philadelphia and booked a private paranormal investigation there,

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Speaker 3: and we set up various pieces of equipment, and we

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Speaker 3: only had a couple hours, so we wanted to maximize

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Speaker 3: every square introduce, so we took a lot of digital

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Speaker 3: camera photos. We went ahead and set up various rempos

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Speaker 3: and other various devices, and in the basement area of

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Speaker 3: the Betty Roffs House, a lot of people reported and

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Speaker 3: hearing strange sounds, a very terrifying sound. So are you member,

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Speaker 3: you know, a former lead investigator. And of course Rick

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Speaker 3: re down in the basement area of the Betty Rolls

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Speaker 3: House and we had a paralyge, which is kind of

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Speaker 3: like a pair of Lancer said, well, it has spikes

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Speaker 3: that goes up and down just like a K tune leader,

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Speaker 3: all the way from green to red. And that thing

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Speaker 3: was going off like crazy, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: Rick has a little rampody of scare Bear because it's

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Speaker 3: a little it's a trigger object that we use on

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Speaker 3: the investigations. And then, of course, you know Rick, when

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Speaker 3: I had on this basically started asking questions with a

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Speaker 3: voice recorder and we started picking up these very terrifying growls.

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Speaker 3: I've never heard anything like it at all. They were

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Speaker 3: absolutely terrifying, And of course I was upstairs doing my

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Speaker 3: own EVP session in the Betsy's bedroom as well, and

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Speaker 3: I started using a thermal camera and a thermal imaging camera.

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Speaker 3: Of course is it's it's a point in click then

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Speaker 3: let many other mechanics use on and repairing cars, and

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Speaker 3: of course they're also used to locate missing people in

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Speaker 3: the wilderness. So I want ahead, pointed and clicked in

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Speaker 3: Betsy's room and capture what I think is a full

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Speaker 3: body apparition of Betsy's spirit. And mind you this, there's

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Speaker 3: actually a big wall over this uh over Betsy's room

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Speaker 4: It's so nobody's go in there.

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Speaker 2: Would you say it was a friendly spirit Josh or

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Speaker 2: something evil?

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Speaker 3: I think in the basement area of the Betty Rolf house.

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Speaker 3: From what what Rick and I were able to conclude,

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Speaker 3: there has to be something evil there. I've never heard these,

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Speaker 3: went ahead and we posted those EVP. If you go

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Speaker 3: to a fanomdetectives dot org under our EVP section, there's

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Speaker 3: a pair of breakdown to the Betty Rolfs house section.

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Speaker 3: You can hear there's groulse for yourself, and they were

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Speaker 3: absolutely terrifying. I've never experienced anything like that on a

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Speaker 3: paranorl investigation ever. And then of course I got another

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Speaker 3: and set up another evper core and I got this

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Speaker 3: me was kind of mentioned that might have been one

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Speaker 3: and they do free tours every day so for us

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Speaker 2: I mean that was that happens a lot, doesn't.

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Speaker 4: It, Absolutely, it sure does.

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Speaker 3: And we would have we would constantly have to change

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Speaker 3: At the Betsy Ross, I was trying to scan more

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Speaker 3: So it's kind of a weird phenomena that spirits the

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Speaker 3: use elect magnetic fields to show themselves. So we actually

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Speaker 3: So that was very very might have been the best

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Speaker 2: Would you say that this was the scariest location you've

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Speaker 4: This is just one of many one of the scariest

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Speaker 3: We had done. You know, this rate in Philadelphia. There's

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Speaker 3: this guy's apartment that was in Philadelphia, of course, and

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Speaker 3: Haunted magazine, and this client was very given us a

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Speaker 3: Rick did an interview with him before this investigation and

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Speaker 3: he started, you know, talking to Rick adult his experiences,

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Speaker 3: the strange markings on his legs. There was a security

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Speaker 4: There were voices heard and numerous ghostly faces were.

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Speaker 3: So this uh was actually this para investigation was actually

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Speaker 3: Hour paranorval course is a huge YouTube channel. And from

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Speaker 3: of course Melissa our psychic medium, she is a course

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Speaker 3: of course they started crossing for yes, and we asked

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Speaker 4: Any kind of spirit voices on this uh.

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Speaker 3: You know device of course, using we use the PSB

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Speaker 3: Gary Galka, And we scanned the AM and F and

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Speaker 3: stations and we started what we call the potty mouse.

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Speaker 3: So we started hearing these curse words on the AMMFM sweep.

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Speaker 2: And I've never don't repeat them, Josh, don't repeat them.

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Speaker 4: We won't repeat him on that.

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Speaker 3: But they were potty mouse star, it's actually like to

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Speaker 3: call them. So we went ahead and started picking that up.

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Speaker 3: But that was kind of weird. We're doing phantom time.

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Speaker 4: Melissa asked a question, is there an older woman here?

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Speaker 3: And we got this strange VP, I said, right here,

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Speaker 4: So there was like a spirit there that was.

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Speaker 3: Terrifying experience in that investigation, still shaking to this core

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Speaker 2: I believe that there is a place called the Pennhurst

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Speaker 2: Asylum in Pennsylvania. You were there back in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: This was a deplorable place, as you know, Joshua. They

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Speaker 2: shackled children to beds, they lived in their own excremented.

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Speaker 2: It was horrible. But what kind of activity did you

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Speaker 3: Oh, yes, the Betsy Ross House of course, sorry, drug.

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Speaker 3: Pedhurst Asylum is a variant. This is actually a place

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Speaker 3: that has won the most terrifying places in Pennsylvania. It

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Speaker 3: and of course it closed in nineteen eighty seven to

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Speaker 3: many people over the years of forty hearing bangs, the

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Speaker 3: were there in August of two thousand and eighteen, and quite.

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Speaker 4: Luckily when we were there in two two years.

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Speaker 3: Before Phanta Detectives was formed, we actually had the opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Grant Wilson was there from Ghost Huntings, so he went

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Speaker 3: ahead and gave us a lesson a session because we

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Speaker 3: actually just purchased these digital Thousing SOLS camera And of

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Speaker 3: course the SOLS camera is.

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Speaker 4: A really cool device. It uses Xbox.

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Speaker 3: Technology to scan. You know what it does is it maps.

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Speaker 3: you'll actually pick up like spirits that are unseen to

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Speaker 2: George, have you ever been hurt in an investigation?

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Speaker 3: We have not been hurt yet on a investigation yet,

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Speaker 3: but I'm going to say that there are times where

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Speaker 2: about the paranormal. There are four kinds of hauntings. Residual, intelligent, poltergeison,

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Speaker 3: Yes, so a residual haunting, of course, are like past

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Speaker 2: The same as poultergeis haunting.

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Speaker 3: Poultergeis haunting is a little different because there's a great case,

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Speaker 4: So that's what we call they were. They were noisy ghosts.

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Speaker 3: Kinds of classifications of haunting. Pulpriitgrite which stroys things around

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Speaker 3: negative entities, intelligence hauntings which are human spirits as directly

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Speaker 2: Events, scary things. But you keep doing that.

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Speaker 4: You enjoy it absolutely.

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Speaker 3: It's a passion of mine to help people and we

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Speaker 4: To learn and to grow. And of course we have

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Speaker 3: Renowned psychic lawyer on our team, Mark Anthony too, who

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Speaker 3: actually is going to be joining us in July for

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Speaker 3: He is an amazing guy and just such a very

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