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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey you're Elizabeth Dutton.

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Speaker 3: Heyay and Elizabeth Dutton.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you know it's ridiculous, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: Dutton do Zaren Burnett, gol durn it. I know it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: You'd look like it. Your face just said that.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So we have a listener, Andrew O'Brien out of Brighton, Canada.

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Speaker 3: He's got two rude dudes, Collie and RUGI oh, sent

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Speaker 3: us a picture of nice little cute patuites. They could

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Speaker 3: their intern material nights. Put them on the board, if

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Speaker 3: I do say so myself, if I do say so myself. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So he sent us this thing about how like back

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Speaker 3: in I think it was like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, actually twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: So this guy just keep backing up till it feels right.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, when you're scrolling to get your birthday on

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Speaker 3: something in Oh God, did you ever want to have

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Speaker 3: just apropos of nothing? Did you ever want to have

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Speaker 3: a personalized license plate?

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Speaker 2: I'm actually the problem says now.

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Speaker 3: What is it going to be? What's going to say?

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Speaker 2: I just want the old one it's not actually going

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Speaker 2: to read anything. It's not that personal. It's been California

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Speaker 2: for me to get the old black and yellow, which

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Speaker 2: is like the real old nineteen sixties.

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Speaker 3: And yellow was the old one, and then it went

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Speaker 3: or no, yeah, and then it.

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Speaker 2: Went to blue and yellow that's the seventies and early eighties,

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Speaker 2: and then it goes to like the blue white blue,

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Speaker 2: and then can yeah. But then but before that, they

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Speaker 2: alsoid the the USA Olympics one.

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Speaker 3: I think they've had a they've had a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of I'm sking that was like a common one in

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Speaker 2: the state, willing to pay a little bit more whatever.

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Speaker 2: So yes, I'm in the process right now, Elizabeth of

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Speaker 2: getting a custom but not saying anything.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't That's what I'm saying. That was like

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Speaker 3: the like personalized where it says something that you wanted

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can be pretty douchey, but I'm

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Speaker 2: not that douchey.

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Speaker 3: I bet you Zaren is available.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I bet it's not.

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Speaker 3: Let's seem they yeah, they'd be like whatever. Anyways, why

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Speaker 3: would I do that?

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Speaker 2: Just put my name on my card, you know.

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Speaker 3: It's.

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Speaker 3: Uh So, Joseph Tartaro is a fella who's like a

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Speaker 3: computer guy. He works, he's a security researcher. He wanted

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Speaker 3: to get a vanity license plate.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and nothing against people will do that, I honestly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he I got friends with vanity plates, you know,

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Speaker 3: many times. It's fun. I had one and then I

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Speaker 3: realized it was an idea for one and I realized

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get into it. But it was

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Speaker 3: a really better.

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Speaker 4: You're unscratched, okay, okay, So he decided he was going

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Speaker 4: to he wanted to get null and U l L

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Speaker 4: for his and then void for his wife, and void and.

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Speaker 2: So zero and the absence of all.

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Speaker 3: So he got null and U l L. And then

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Speaker 3: he got a traffic ticket and it was that's like

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Speaker 3: he didn't have the sticker on his plate. So someone

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Speaker 3: yeah the year. So it's like it's thirty five bucks whatever, Okay,

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Speaker 3: he pays it. Then all of a sudden, he starts

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Speaker 3: getting a ton of tickets and they're all over the state,

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Speaker 3: all of two from Cyprus College on the same day.

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Speaker 3: He's nowhere near there. So it's like, what's going on. Well,

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Speaker 3: if they can't read the plate, they meaning the police.

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Speaker 3: Sure they type in null. He should know this as

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Speaker 3: a computer guy that null means no value. There's nothing

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Speaker 2: So once he triggered the first ticket, we lined up,

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh, we got a place to send them.

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Speaker 3: Thirty Like they're going from thirty seven all the way

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Speaker 3: and he reaches out to this company that processes that.

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Speaker 3: It's Citation Processing Center. They're the ones who process citation

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Speaker 3: follow and he's trying to tell them, look, he's aren't mine.

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Speaker 3: They're like, hey, man, that's what your plate is. So,

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Speaker 3: you know him thinking he's so funny.

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Speaker 2: He can't be live for those.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so well. They were saying that he

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Speaker 2: Opportunity, DMV's gotta come on.

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Speaker 3: I mean like I mean, so he goes to them

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Speaker 3: He whittled it down to six thousand dollars after talking

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't know whatever happened with his nightmare.

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Speaker 3: It was still ongoing. That was in twenty seventeen, and

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Speaker 3: the article I found was from twenty nineteen, and so, golly,

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Speaker 3: I hope he's okay.

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Speaker 2: Say, I had a friend. I still have a friend,

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Speaker 2: but he had a Blockbuster membership and he made the

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Speaker 2: Oh no, And then like I went somewhere in another

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Speaker 2: state and I rented a movie and I didn't return it.

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Speaker 2: I left it and it's like like some party house,

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Speaker 2: a friend's house. Since I never got returned, he was

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Speaker 2: kept getting charged for this movie. So he went in

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Speaker 2: with me to explain, like it was this jerk, right,

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Speaker 2: like it was me. I'm They're like okay. So then

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Speaker 2: he had me removed from the account. But the person

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Speaker 2: put in delty instead of delete delete, he put in Delty.

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Speaker 2: So I got a card for account for Delty delete

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Speaker 2: when it renewed the next year. So I had this

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Speaker 2: Blockbuster card Delty delete hard to go around. I did

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Speaker 2: the same thing to him. I went all around the

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Speaker 2: country renting movies. People are like, hey, you want to

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Speaker 2: remove I got it, man, I got a Blockbuster card.

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Speaker 2: You don't even have to return this movie. You would

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Speaker 2: get these notices all the time. You have to go in,

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Speaker 2: what do I have to do? And then they try

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Speaker 2: the delty delete that somehow made it stay a name,

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Speaker 2: because otherwise it was delete delete, the system would have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so she was just written poor my friend Ohn.

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Speaker 2: That's ridiculous too.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that is very ridiculous. Zero tell me, really ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: But I got something else refew Elizabeth. Do you remember

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Speaker 2: seeing the stickers? Skateboarding is not a crime? I do, right,

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Speaker 2: Do you remember this today? I'm here to tell you, well,

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Speaker 2: that's true. Skateboarding is not a crime.

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Speaker 3: But good show, good show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, all right, I'm done roll credits. But

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Speaker 2: doing parkour that can certainly lead to crime. It should

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Speaker 2: be a crime, like say, the biggest art heist in Paris.

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Speaker 3: History parkour art heist. Yeah, oh god, this.

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Speaker 2: Is ridiculous crime. It's a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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Speaker 2: heights and cons. It's always ninety murder free and one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Elizabeth, so nice to see you, So good to

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Speaker 2: see you today. I found a story that I think

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Speaker 2: will surprise and delight you.

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Speaker 3: Oh I like you know me. I love to be surprised.

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Speaker 3: Actually I don't, and I love to be delighted.

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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And if not you, it'll definitely cover me. I

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Speaker 2: will find the story incredible.

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Speaker 3: So surprised as you go.

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Speaker 2: Well, his street name, Well, to give you a hint

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Speaker 2: of why the story is so awesome, this dude's street

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a long street name, right.

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Speaker 2: The government name Vejaran Thomitch Okay, yeah, right. My man

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Speaker 2: Tomitch was born in Paris in nineteen sixty eight, but,

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Speaker 2: as we so often see in stories like his, an

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Speaker 2: early tragedy shaped his young life. In this case, it

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Speaker 2: left her unable to care for her infant son. Now Tomich, which,

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Speaker 2: is from the former nation of Yugoslavia. Okay, Domich. Now

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Speaker 2: specifically it's people from Bosnia, right, As a one year

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Speaker 2: old Tomitch is sent to live with family in the

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Speaker 2: old Ottoman town called most Star, and it's famous for

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Speaker 2: this medieval arched bridge.

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Speaker 3: So a picture like beautiful place, I've never heard of it.

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Speaker 2: Well, picture an Ottoman town if you will, with cobblestone

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Speaker 2: But soon, of course, the lures of adult life called

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Speaker 2: pulling off his first heist. It's a library job, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: something you'd probably like, yeah, not like the local kids

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Speaker 2: You now, at age eleven, he's become a handful for

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Speaker 2: his Bosnianic stended family. They're like, let's ship him back

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So now he's back in the home of his parents

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Speaker 3: So wait a second, you got to help me out here.

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Speaker 2: So the mom had a car accident when he was

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Speaker 2: and then she just couldn't take care of him. He's bedridden,

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Speaker 3: They didn't want to bring him back in until he

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Speaker 2: Well, no, they got she got shipped back. Basically, he's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: he's your mess now, right, he's your boy.

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Speaker 3: Right, he just forgot about him.

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Speaker 2: Possibly if it was a fairy tale, they did, right,

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Speaker 2: parents that, like I said, terrible parents. They fight constantly.

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Speaker 2: They beat each other. They're hitting each other, and when

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Speaker 3: That's what he said. Couple people who forgot about him,

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Speaker 3: and then he was forced.

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Speaker 2: To go back to that totally. So what does a

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Speaker 3: Runs away?

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Speaker 2: you know about Parker before you start scoffing at one

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: What, I'm what? I'm what? I The question I have

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Speaker 2: I called your mother and your brother. I said, give

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Speaker 2: It's like basically putting like like half push ups off

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, it's when people are doing little stunts

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Speaker 2: Fanciful things, back floats, running up walls, and.

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Speaker 3: They're usually wearing kind of like wide leg jeans skate shoes.

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Speaker 2: Very much so that because when it came of age,

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Speaker 3: Before that, it was like they put the K in

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth's like, no, it is not.

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Speaker 3: Well, my man, here's a pioneer park interpretive walking with

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Speaker 2: It's more like skateboarding without a skateboard, like street skating

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Speaker 3: I think that the kids that use those little finger

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, he was a pioneer, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: I'm kidding the sense that you were. You a practitioner

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Speaker 2: Before it had a name. People have said, I used

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Speaker 2: And so parkour parkour parkour, but he didn't have a name.

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Speaker 2: I just called it cheating death. That's why I called it.

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Speaker 2: Was like, let me jump over this alley. They like,

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Speaker 2: you can't do that, and I would do it. They're like,

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Speaker 3: I'm leaving, I'm swing myself.

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Speaker 2: You gotta go down another building out of here people anyway,

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Speaker 2: So my man Tom he wasn't doing parkour and at nighttime.

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Speaker 2: In the daytime hours, he was avoiding school because he's

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Speaker 3: Right, daytime parkour is even better.

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Speaker 2: It's the best time for daytime park corps. So he

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Speaker 2: He'd like break into like glass factories and steal glass

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Speaker 2: the cure exactly. Now. The one thing I haven't really

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Speaker 2: his style, even his clothing. Now. She also added that

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Speaker 2: He knows he's a poet. He starts to model himself

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Speaker 2: Arthur Rimbau's totally fits in with that old Jim Morrison exactly. So, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: are your thoughts on Rambou? Is he kind of like

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Speaker 3: I think that's that's appropriate. This is a good one.

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Speaker 2: There are guys who like they love and wallow and

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Speaker 2: like Okay, perfect example Mickey Rourke in Bukowski's Barfly. I

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Speaker 3: Now, Okawski double Becky do you okay? Yeah? I feel

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Speaker 3: I feel bad for the guys. Here's a great actor,

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Speaker 2: So I'm hitting the numbers right and scratch that. I'll

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Speaker 2: have to admit to you to keep it fair, I

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Speaker 2: once had my own Rambo poetry reading phase, a Bukowski

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Speaker 3: I've read a ton of it, and I had a

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Speaker 2: But as you so often point out the difference for

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Speaker 2: why I'm not in prison Impulse control, Elizabeth, because I

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Speaker 2: understand Tomach, but I also understand why he is where

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Speaker 2: I was not right, Yeah, which is you know he basically,

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Speaker 2: Whatever make of rimbo. Soon enough, he starts bounding over

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Speaker 3: So wait, that was basically him during the Paris Olympics

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Speaker 2: Pretty much, Yeah, that's basically home. So I up on

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Speaker 2: all right, So at this point, sixteen years old, we'll

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Speaker 3: That's where I have no impulse control.

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Speaker 5: Ads.

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Speaker 2: We're back, Elizabeth, wake up.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, so parkour course, So.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen year old Tolmich he's now at this point developed

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Speaker 3: Is yelp buff well pretty much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he can like climb up the side of a

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Speaker 3: Have you ever watched professional rock climbing on television?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I have friends who are professional rock climbers.

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Speaker 3: Really, I stumbled onto something. You know now that I'm

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Speaker 3: of TV. I watched some not too long ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Are they're doing like just like an actual rock climber

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Speaker 2: Did they have to ring a bell at the top?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think they had to hit a little buzzer

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Speaker 3: like out of Pea somewhere.

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Speaker 2: This American ninja? Was this actually rock climbing?

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Speaker 3: This was like international?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So was it on an actual rock face or

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Speaker 3: Big the elements of architectural interest as it goes up.

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Speaker 2: Right? You're up? Like that's most people not him.

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Speaker 2: He could, so he did, and he would get up there.

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Speaker 2: He basically just like Spider Man, go right up the

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Speaker 3: This upper body strength legs too, but negative upper body.

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Speaker 6: well at this point right, he would like he starts like,

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Speaker 2: Right, he starts like pulling jobs based entirely on how

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Speaker 2: he would, you know, go for that apartment. He had

435
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 2: a conversation with a writer from the New Yorker. He

436
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 2: was sending him back and forth letters and answering questions,

437
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 2: handwritten letters. Right, he wrote in his own like French

438
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 2: cursive handwriting. Apparently, so he explained in one of these

439
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 2: how he would feel. But how that would align with

440
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 2: a job. He said down I quote, I have to

441
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,160
Speaker 2: be on harmony with certain places where I feel good.

442
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 2: And then at that moment I see, like images from

443
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 2: a movie. The place is where I have walked in

444
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 2: the past week, and some places attracted me and something

445
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 2: is waiting for me in the end. Yeah, I'm gonna

446
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 2: keep doing it. So he finds that more than gold

447
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: or jewelry, it's the fine art that he sees in

448
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 2: these apartments and really start to stir his soul. Remember,

449
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 2: as I told you, poet's soul. So he finds he

450
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 2: loves renoir. He sees some renoirs. He's like, damn amazing,

451
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 2: he's really good at painting. And then he said, you know,

452
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 2: he starts to see other great masters because he's in

453
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 2: these ultra wealthy homes, and he starts to notice that

454
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 2: like Renoir paintings. Once he's seen a couple of them,

455
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 2: they have this sweetness that emerges from his portraits of children. Right.

456
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: And he also he loves Matisse. That's that one goes crazy.

457
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 2: He goes crazy for Matista. He's like, oh so joyful

458
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 2: in his dancing color palette. Right, he's particularly fond of

459
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 2: the impression is basically, you get the idea what he

460
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: leans to us good enough. Being impulsive as he is,

461
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 2: he has to have them for his own, so he

462
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 2: starts to steal them. He's like, I must have this,

463
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 2: I must possess it, I must have it on my wall. Right.

464
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 2: It's great for him, right, because this is enjoyment of

465
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 2: beauty and he has enough to do it, you know,

466
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 2: costs him nothing. Boom, So he's gonna stealing master works

467
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 2: of art, though he realizes he probably will have to

468
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 2: find some buyers eventually. He can't keep all of these,

469
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 2: and that's a whole other job. Finding buyers. He's like,

470
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: you know what, I need a reputable fence, somebody work

471
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 2: with you to move my stolen artwork. He starts, you know,

472
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: taking works from homes. I'm tracking, like paintings of like dega,

473
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 2: like realainting, exactly as my man Tomitch puts it. To

474
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: sell them was dangerous and I didn't have reliable sources

475
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 2: abroad in order to flog them to collectors or receivers.

476
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: A decent amount passed through my home and some stayed

477
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 2: with me for a long time on the wall. And

478
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: then it's in these cases that I fell in love.

479
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: Now you get the idea poet, Like I said. Now

480
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 2: the man he also obviously is a parkour flipping French

481
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: cat burglar, so he's got two different impulses. So he starts,

482
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: you know, trolling these homes with these well heeled French victims,

483
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 2: and they start commenting when they get robbed by this guy.

484
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 2: You know, they've noticing that. They tell the police it

485
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 2: was like an Arsan Lupin kind of guy. Because they

486
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 2: know they're French. They know this guy, the debonair gentleman

487
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 2: cat burglar of the early twentieth century, that's their model.

488
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 2: So this guy starts getting known. The cops start hearing

489
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: about this. There's this arsan lupin cat burglar working the

490
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 2: streets of Paris. Are above the streets of Paris's he

491
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: relies on intelligence and bravery and overcoming gravity and he

492
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: never hurts anyone. He's never violent. So the cops really

493
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: kind of intrigued by this grid. Yeah right, he's not

494
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 2: only is he just parkouring around Elizabeth. He's like, as

495
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: I said, scaling the sides of buildings, but I'm talking

496
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: like ten stories high.

497
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 3: Wow, no safety ropes, no banch.

498
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: Jumping parachute, just dry hands and some just pluck scrabbling exactly.

499
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 2: And he gets good also picking locks, working home security

500
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 2: systems because he's breaking in all the time. Right. He

501
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: starts to focus on jewelry also with along with the art,

502
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: because he can make a big score of jewelry last

503
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 2: six months or more. Yeah.

504
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 3: Sure.

505
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: He likes living well, right, Like most street criminals, he

506
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: tends not to save for tomorrow, right, so he wants

507
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: to live for today. So he eats well, he travels well.

508
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: You would have liked hanging out with him, right, He's

509
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: like a fun guy in terms of like for.

510
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 3: The parkour part except for that, just like walking on

511
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 3: the street. And then he starts like jumping and flipping

512
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 3: in the air on stuff and I'm like out.

513
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: Spinning around a light post. Oh man. At this point

514
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: he's mostly a luner, probably because the parkour. But he

515
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: has a few friends, but in fact he has almost none.

516
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 2: That all he has is his work at his burglaries, right,

517
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: so he's getting more and more clever about them. It's

518
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: just that's all his life is. Autumn of two thousand

519
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: rolls around. He graduates to pulling cinematic capers at this point.

520
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: Now right, he buys himself a crossbow and he uses

521
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: it to stage a daring berger escalated right jump right there,

522
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: he fires a crossbow. Then he uses carabineers and ropes

523
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: to pull himself over to the apartment, and then he

524
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: breaks in while the owners are sleeping. They're there what

525
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 2: on their walls? He spies two of his favorites renoirs,

526
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 2: steals them both you like, you like. Not only that,

527
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: he also steals a George es Brock and some other

528
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: master works. All told night is easily worth a million

529
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 2: euros for him.

530
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 3: In terms of how old is he around this time?

531
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 2: Just ballpark for so it probably thirty two.

532
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So we got this thirty two year.

533
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: Old man, and now he's a man with a dream

534
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Corner around because one day, literally he has a

535
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 2: dream like at night asleep right, like yeah, cinematic theater

536
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: between your eyes, right, yeah. He sees himself in the

537
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: future stealing five great masterpieces. When he wakes up from

538
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: the dream, he's so real to him, he goes, it

539
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 2: must be a sign an omen right, so he goes,

540
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: I knew that someday I would do something great right now.

541
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: So at this point these definitions of greatness vary.

542
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 2: He lets a little time, you know, like develop, and

543
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: then eventually, in May of twenty ten, my man Tooma.

544
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: She's out taking a stroll. He's walking along the sand

545
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 2: and he sees this building. It's an Art Deco building,

546
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 2: large tall windows. He sees the Cubist masterpiece inside the windows.

547
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: Catches his eye, right, He's like, oh, he has to

548
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: go see it closer. Walks over the building. Is the

549
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: music the art Maldon des la Ville de peris, right,

550
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 2: the Museum of Modern Art, right, so tonic. He draws

551
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: closer to the museum. He checks the state security because

552
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: he's a thief. He sees a cameras there's an alarm system.

553
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: He's like scoping it out. He finds a blind spot

554
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: in the camera placement. Right, he checks that window. He

555
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: sees something he recognizes from a previous theft. This window

556
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: frame has screws in the frame. They're buried. Most people

557
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 2: wouldn't notice them. But he fishes out a pocket knife

558
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 2: to check and he you know, shout out to those

559
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: of carry Swiss army knife everywhere. He cuts into the

560
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: window frame and he chisels out a screwhead. It is

561
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 2: indeed has buried screws. Yeah, facing out. So he goes,

562
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: oh boom voila, and he sees exactly what he wants

563
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: to see. So he goes, I can break into this museum.

564
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: So he goes and he checks with his fence to

565
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: see if he can handle the kind of weight he

566
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: may be picking up. Fence's like, oh yeah, totally. He's like,

567
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: what are you thinking about hitting? And he's like, oh,

568
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: this museum on an art Now, as you know, a

569
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 2: masterpiece painting won't really keep its value in the black

570
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: market now about ten percent of its market values usually,

571
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: and this is due to a few factors. For one,

572
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: there are very few buyers for a painting that's stolen,

573
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: and unlike say jewelry, paintings can't be chopped up and

574
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: resold or re made into new paintings. You're stuck with

575
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: it right now. Recently I told you about some smart

576
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 2: art thieves who were trying to steal artwork and then

577
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: trade it on the black market for with the police

578
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: to get for like, oh, let's get our IRA sisters out.

579
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 3: That's common, right, these criminal groups.

580
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Irish trade right now. The there's like Charles Hill,

581
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 2: the former head of the Arts and Antique Squad from

582
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: New Scotland. Yard he thinks that whole idea of like

583
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 2: the doctor no inspired idea of like, oh, criminals love

584
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 2: to have stolen artworks, Yeah, he said, and I quote,

585
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: it's foolhardy, it's stupid, it's big ignorant.

586
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 3: Whoa.

587
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, new.

588
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: Scotland got a little God bless them now.

589
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: But if you we talked about it, if you're going

590
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: to do like an art heist, you need to have

591
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: your fence all lined up.

592
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

593
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: This guy, he's smart about it. He gets it all

594
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: lined up. He tells him, He's like, this is what

595
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: I plan to do. The fence is like okay, and

596
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: you know what, I've got some ideas of what I

597
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: would like from I got a shopping list, right, He's like,

598
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: let's let's do this, right. So the de fence his

599
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: name is Jean Michel corveat right. He's this distinguished frenchman,

600
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: owns a gallery, several other business, is very respected. He

601
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: carries himself like a patrician. He's in this fifties. He

602
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 2: has white hair. That's probably the most distinct feature.

603
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

604
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: Right, early in that relationship, right, Tamich brings to him that,

605
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: you know, some real fine pieces of art defense and

606
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 2: Corve is like, oh, if you can get more like this, right,

607
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: And then he's like oh, He's like, well, what do

608
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: you mean. He's like, oh, yeah, here's my shopping list.

609
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 2: And he gives him this shopping list, right, and it's exhaustive.

610
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: It's like Gustav Klimp, Mark Chagall, Amadeo Mougegliani, mone Mayne, Picasso, Pissarro, Warhol,

611
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 2: Jean Michel Basquiat. It's like basically he's like, if you

612
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: heard of this model and audust, yes, then I would

613
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: like one of the basic but so the one modern

614
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: artist he really coveted was for Non Lege, right, And

615
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: so Corvet is interested in a very specific painting by Lege.

616
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: It's the still life with Candlestick. It's the scene of

617
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: a domestic life from nineteen twenty two. Corve is like,

618
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: it's at the mam, can you get this one for me?

619
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 5: Right?

620
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: And so he promises Tomich he'll give him forty thousand

621
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: large for the painting, and then he promises him fifty

622
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: thousand sight unseen for any other great masterpieces that he

623
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: can pull from the museum. So the two men strike

624
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: a criminal agreement. Corvet is now the one who gives

625
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: Tomich also his gnom to crime. He nicknames him this

626
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: spy there. That's his first.

627
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: Nickname, Spider Spider.

628
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: So the two of them they get real close, and

629
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: Corve is a little bit older, so he kind of

630
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: takes like great pride in his partner's physique and his fitness.

631
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: As to put it, Corve wanted me to work out

632
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: so that I could climb without any problem. So he's

633
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: always out in front of me. It's like are you

634
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: eating your bat?

635
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: Like it?

636
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: So he's getting ready invested in their relationship. Right, they're

637
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: now a crime team. Right, both men know it's on.

638
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: So Tomich he recalls the heady days right before the heist.

639
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: Certain paintings can provoke in me like an emotionless shock,

640
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: And he explained to the New Yorker, and I quote,

641
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: I love to touch antique objects, and I sense a

642
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: great past of generations and generations, and I think they

643
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: are a part of the works. So he's just out

644
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: there feeling time, just getting high on it all. Yeah,

645
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: and now he knows these paintings they're calling to remember

646
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: he had the dream. Yeah, he can feel his destiny

647
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: taking shit.

648
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: Got five of them, five big dogs.

649
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: They're calling out his name.

650
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: The wind cries Spider, Spider.

651
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: On May fourteenth, twenty ten. Yeah, tom It starts to

652
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: work all right. At roughly three in the morning, he

653
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: stalks up to the window of the museum he was

654
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: working on the screws now. But first though, he hangs

655
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: up this black cloth to kind of give himself some

656
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: cover from the street. Sure, there's nobody around, really, it's

657
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: three thirty in the morning. The streets are silent, nobody's out.

658
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: But still a smart call in case any paint in

659
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: the neck bystander happens by yeah. Also he starts, you know,

660
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: he's got some stuff that's going to be doing that.

661
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: You know you may be able to smell. I'll explain

662
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: you a second. He's using paint stripper to loosen the

663
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: paint covering off the streams, right. And then once he's yeah,

664
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: once he gets that like all like loosened up, he

665
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: takes his knife out, scrapes out the gunk. Then he

666
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: sprays the screws with rust remover because they haven't been

667
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: twisted in forever.

668
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 5: Right.

669
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: Then after that he works the screw loose with.

670
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: A screwdrivers out the powerwasher.

671
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: Once he's done with getting the screw out, he then

672
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: he then places his own daub of modeling clay, and

673
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: then he takes out modeling paint and he paints to

674
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: match the window to cover the dab. There are twenty

675
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: screws that he has to do this for. He's only

676
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: able to get a few screws done each night. He

677
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: takes him eight nights working every night. Finally, on the

678
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: ninth night, Tomas she shows up this time with suction

679
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: cups ready to break in. He's like the glass is loose.

680
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: He's there he's dressed like a hype beasts like street Ninja.

681
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: He shows up with a hoodies her ninja style face mask,

682
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: sneaks up to the window. He places the suction cups

683
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: and he silently lifts out the glass of the window.

684
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: Then he uses bolt cutters to snap the padlock that's

685
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: holding the security gate in place. The sound is louder

686
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: than he expects. He says, it sounded like a gunshot

687
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: just ricocheting around inside the empty Yeah. Right, so he's free.

688
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: This is in place. He waits to hear if there's

689
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: any guards who come running. They don't. Satisfied now that

690
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: no one's coming, he sneaks into the museum Elizabeth. He

691
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: sees the for non Lige painting like it was just

692
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: there waiting for him. It's like the first thing he sees.

693
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: Oh wow, So he used a screwdriver to unscrew it

694
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: from the wall. Once free from the wall, he takes

695
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: it outside. He rests against the low wall of like

696
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: the little like plaza that surrounds the museum. He finds

697
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: it because it basically it's a spot where skateboarders gather

698
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: in the daytime parkour parkour wheels, but in the middle

699
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: of the night. It's vacant, obviously, right, So Toma she

700
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: goes back in the museum. He stops dead in his

701
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: tracks when he sees this painting pastoral by Matisse. It's

702
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: three pale nude figures, all resting, and Toma, she just

703
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: gazes upon this master work and is he put it?

704
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: A deep, vivid landscape and the little devil playing his

705
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: flute out of nowhere, as if by magic, as if

706
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: he were the guardian of this environment. So he loves

707
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: us painting. He loves that little devil with the flute.

708
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: So what does he do? He joints it off the wall.

709
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: A couple of screws later, Yeah, why tis too? Next

710
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: he spots the exactly he spots the Medigliani painting woman

711
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: with a fan. Again transfixed, he's he put it. The

712
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: woman in the picture was worthy of a living being,

713
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: ready to dance a tango. It could have almost been

714
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 2: the reality. So of course steals that one too, right.

715
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: Mogdigliani is on the shopping list, as you point out.

716
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: Next to the Medigliani, he sees a Picasso and a

717
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: work by George's Brock takes both of those. He rests

718
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: them outside but the rest.

719
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 3: Of us a big stack going on.

720
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, He sees a sixth painting, remember the dreams five.

721
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: It's another Madigliani. It's the Woman with Blue Eyes and

722
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: told me she's rendered wordless at the side of it.

723
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 5: Right.

724
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: He fantasizes about stealing it, but then he hears his

725
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: little voice tell him if you take me, you'll regret

726
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: it the rest of your life. The voice of the

727
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: painting chills his lust to own it right as to

728
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: Much puts it, I will never forget what this woman

729
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: with blue eyes did to me when I touched it

730
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: to take it from its frame. The feelings stopped instantly.

731
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: Fear that came over me like an ice, big, a

732
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: freezing feel that made me run the way.

733
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: So that was the voice of impulse control.

734
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: He finally found it right, so he settles for the

735
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: five paintings. Just like in his dream, he's already got outside.

736
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: He steps out of the museum. He breaks the paintings

737
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: free of their frames. He takes takes a few minutes,

738
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: then he sneaks across the street with the paintings, right

739
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: where he's parked along the sane. He pops open the

740
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: hatchback of his little raino. He slides a five masterpieces

741
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 2: inside and whoo, off he goes drives off. Now there's

742
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 2: not much traffic at five in the morning, which is

743
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: what time is at this point, so he pulls over.

744
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: It decides he's smart. He decides, Oh, I'll wait for

745
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: morning traffic to disappear amongst all the commuters for two hours.

746
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: Then he sits there with the stolen masterpieces. What does

747
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: he do, Elizabeth Parkour, No, he just luxuriates with the paintings.

748
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: Remember he's a poet's said, get it, drinks deeply of

749
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: their beauty. His eyes linger on brushstrokes, he dogs a color,

750
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: He looks each one for twenty thirty minutes. Yeah. Hours later,

751
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: once he sees traffic growing thick enough with cars, he

752
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: drives off, joins the commuters. Disappears now officially. Yeah, but

753
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: once he gets behind the wheel, he can still like

754
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 2: he's out there in the morning traff. He can still

755
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: hear the Medigliani voice going like he as he put

756
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: it when I drove the Blue Eyed Lady was in

757
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 2: my head when he ignored his impulse, right, and he

758
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: gets that's why he gets away with it. Okay, Now,

759
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: as you know, Tomach is only half done. Now he

760
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: has to move the stolen art. So his plan he

761
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: makes with Corvet is to hand over the paintings as

762
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 2: soon as possible. So Tomich drives to the underground parking

763
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: garage where they agreed to meet. Corvey is not there.

764
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: Tomich waits, and he waits, and he gets nervous.

765
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

766
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 2: Eventually, Corve does arrive in a rental car, a Porsche

767
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: ca Han because he's you know that guy, and he

768
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: sees that toomuch stole more than the one lige he ordered.

769
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: And Corve is scared at the proposition and now moving

770
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: five masterworks right because espectially with all this heat on

771
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: him so.

772
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 3: Well, they weren't from a private home, from a big,

773
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 3: big old museum.

774
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: Totally, and so Corve he's like, tells him, I want

775
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: the lige. That's our deal, right. He says he'll pay

776
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: for that, and I can probably sell the Medigliani.

777
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: Wait, I thought he's gonnaive him forty K and then

778
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: fifty free.

779
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: When he shows up, he's like, I didn't really think

780
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: you were going to do it, kind of he basically.

781
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 3: Box, but you know what, that's spider.

782
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: He agrees that they come up with an agreement. They

783
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: he'll hold the other three and just safe house them

784
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: for them, right, Corbett agrees to that. Now. Meanwhile, the

785
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: news of the art heist is breaking, and soon enough

786
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: all of France is talking about this art heist because

787
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: these paintings are worth one hundred million euros.

788
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 3: Whoa yeah, and he's just scrabbling for ninety thousand, yeah, well.

789
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 2: Fifty for each one, so it would be last for

790
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: each one. Can totally be like what two hundred and

791
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars. Yeah, So the mayor of Paris gets

792
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 2: on like the news and tells his upset city folk,

793
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: I want everything to be done to recover these masterpieces, right,

794
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: and so he calls out the elite French armed robbery unit,

795
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: the Brigade, the Repression do bandtismy, Yeah, they're put on

796
00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 2: the case.

797
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 3: The investigation bandit squad exactly.

798
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: They turn up a lead, right, it's a skateboarder who

799
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: comes forward. He tells the cops he remembered this suspicious dude.

800
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 2: He's to always hang out by their skate spot.

801
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: Parkour is so annoying. I can't wait to get this guy.

802
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 2: A parkour guy. You know what I'm talking about like

803
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: G star jeans and like anyway, the dude wasn't watching

804
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: the skaters, but this guy's point, he was clocking the

805
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: museum windows. So the police now have a description of

806
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: their purp quote a white man six feet two, weighing

807
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: about two hundred pounds, with a muscular build, an oval face,

808
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 2: and a square jaw. In other words, a perfect description

809
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: of my man tole me. Okay, so let's take a

810
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 2: little break, yo, you know, prominent Adam's Apple. After these messages,

811
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: we'll be back and I will tell you how things

812
00:37:43,320 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: hit left Fan Parkour. So Elizabeth sar, we're back. Now

813
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: that the police, the Parisian police have a suspects. The

814
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 2: news reports on it, right, and Corvet recognizes him and

815
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: he's like, wait, I know, so they're getting close, right.

816
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: He gets real nervous and scared. He's got a lot

817
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: to lose now. Tomich, being who he is he wasn't,

818
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: is scared. But he also knows that he's now the

819
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: prime suspect, or at least somebody who looks like him. Yeah,

820
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 2: all right, so he knows that this man hunt's about

821
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 2: to start. So Corvet agrees with Tomich that he will

822
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: pay for the Leger painting, right, so he gives him

823
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: the forty grand they manage in exchange. He shows up

824
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: and he gives him a shoe box of loose bills.

825
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, bad sign. The Corve then promises to

826
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: sell off the other painting, still at the fifty grand

827
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: a pop price. Tomich is like, cool, do it man,

828
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: move those right, and then he's like, I'm gonna go

829
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: into hiding. So he goes into hiding, stays at a

830
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: friend's house, doesn't tell the Corve where he's going. Meanwhile,

831
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: the news is just going crazy. The French presses down

832
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 2: he's talking about it. They've actually they're interviewing museum directors.

833
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: People have the guy witness accounts of like I think

834
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 2: I saw something, right yeah. So then after this nothing happens.

835
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: Six months, nothing happens. The French police and their elite

836
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: squad turn up nothing. But there is one cop who

837
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: just happens to be tracking Tomich. He's working off this

838
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: tip about this skilled cat burglar, this parkour thief, and

839
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 2: he's like, oh yeah, and his fence is this white

840
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: haired patrician guy, right, So the cops are arranged for

841
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 2: around the clock surveillance of this interesting two man crew.

842
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: It's one day in October twenty ten at this point,

843
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: six months after the initial heights. The cops here that

844
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: Tomich is. He's on the phone. They got him on

845
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 2: a surveillance, right, and he's ranting about how the police

846
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: are after him for the modern Art museum job. Tomich

847
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: says to corve the cops, the cops think it was

848
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: me who did the museum. I swear that it's crazy.

849
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: They can't understand that the Baan things were sold and

850
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: that they're pissing me off. So the cops are condemn

851
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: the cops hear all of this, right, yeah, but they're

852
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: convinced he's drunk and talking himself up and he's just

853
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 2: a street criminal trying to brag on some stuff, like

854
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: he couldn't possibly this guy could masterminded that they have.

855
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: They put out the effort to put him under surveillance, and.

856
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, they ignore it. They're just like he's

857
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 2: just some parkour cat burglar who thinks he's trying to

858
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: talk tough. He's no master mind.

859
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 3: It's no tall parkour guy.

860
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: So at some point though, someone recalls that skateboarder eyewitness

861
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: who described a suspect. It worked a lot like Toamdch.

862
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 3: That's how they have the sketch.

863
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the cops finally put two and two together

864
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: and they get to four and they're like wait a minute,

865
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: wait just a minute. So they start now focusing on

866
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: to Mitch as their primary suspect.

867
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: In my mind, the police sketch is the Zodiac sketch

868
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 3: with a beret and a cigarette, mostly smoked cigarette exactly.

869
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: Continue at this point.

870
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: It's December now, right. The cops are watching to Mitch

871
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: and they're you know, they're surveilling a day night. They're

872
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: listening to his phone, they're wired tapping, full surveillance, right, Yeah,

873
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: and they noticed that Tomich seems to be planning a

874
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: new heist. They're like, oh, he he keeps going to

875
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: the center George Pompadou. It's like it's only one of

876
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: the largest modern art museums in Europe, right, so this'd

877
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: be another legendary heist. This would be the perfect escalation

878
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 2: for a guy like him if he did pull off

879
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: the other job. So the police surveiling him, they notice, hey,

880
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 2: you know, he's clocking the doors, the windows, emergency exits

881
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: and they're like rotating shifts so they can see everything

882
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: he's doing. The cops watches he goes now next, shopping

883
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: for his heist supplies. They watch as he buys two

884
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: large suction cups, he buys industrial glue, some heavy duty

885
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: construction gloves. Right, but Tonich, he can start to sensit

886
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 2: their eyes on him, right, so it gets the ideas

887
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: being followed, But that doesn't stop him from using as

888
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: his outgoing voicemail to set up a possible buyer for

889
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 2: his stolen artwork. Because if you called him, as the

890
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: police did on December tenth, French detectives heard, if you

891
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: want to buy paintings or works of the exceptional jewelry,

892
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: do not hesitate, do contact me. Among the mini paintings,

893
00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: there are five that are extremely expensive to ship bows.

894
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: So this is all the cops need to hear, right,

895
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: they decided to ramp up their investigation and set a

896
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: trap for Tomade.

897
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 3: Now they're like, okay, it's got.

898
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: So he's a prime suspect. But the French police aren't

899
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: in any rush, right, So instead they continue to surveil

900
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: Tomache and wait for him to make a mistake and

901
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: they can catch him ready handed, right, Meanwhile, Tomich is

902
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: waiting on Corvet to make good on his promise to

903
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 2: move the stolen paintings and get him his money, because

904
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: he's expecting two hundred large, right, He's like, I'm gonna

905
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 2: take that money. I'm gonna He starts pricing sailboats. He's like,

906
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy myself a sailboat and I'm gonna sail

907
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: away from France.

908
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: Got your money, don't buy a sal Oh, he's.

909
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: Got it all picked out. He knows exactly the one

910
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: he's get. It's gonna cost him one hundred grand. That's

911
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 2: the one he's got his eye on. Half of his money.

912
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: He's gonna go to the sailboat right off the bat.

913
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 3: And then he wants to just go Christopher crossing it

914
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 3: out onto the Mediterranean.

915
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 5: You know it?

916
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 3: Okay.

917
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: The trouble for this plan is is trusting Corvet. Right,

918
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 2: his fence is super worried about getting busted, and he's

919
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 2: shown them all the signs of that. So this dude

920
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: at this point goes into hiding, but he doesn't tell

921
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: him toomuch about his plans. He just goes into dining.

922
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: The first signs should have been when he gives them

923
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: a list, but then doesn't want all like okay.

924
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: Can't handle the yes below so too much. Calls Corve

925
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: one day and he gets a disconnected line that makes

926
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: him a little suspicious, so he starts trying to track

927
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: down his fence, goes to where he is. He's not

928
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: at his gallery, He's not at home right. He finally

929
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: runs into him at a train station at the Garret

930
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: de Leon. It's a chance encounter, right. The fence is

931
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: not happy to see him. Tomich says that Corvet looked

932
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: quote totally white, and also this fence was acted freaky,

933
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: so these are dread quotes. So Tomich he asked for

934
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: an update on the stolen artwork, like he've been able

935
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: to move them in Corvet, he stalls, He double talks.

936
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 2: He refuses to give any new guarantees, no more agreements.

937
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: Tomich is no fool. He now knows what this means,

938
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: so he takes matters into his own hands. The next

939
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: time he contacts him, because they set up a time

940
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: to talk. He records the conversation he has with Corvet.

941
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: He wants to get his partner on tape, some solid

942
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: proof in case Corve tries to double cross him. Instead

943
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: him out to the cops. Yeah, that's good point, good

944
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: good angle. I mean yeah, it's like basically, at this point, Elizabeth,

945
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: everything is going to poo pooh so out of nowhere. Corve, though,

946
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: has a positive update. He calls He's got the rare

947
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: good news ever since the heist. He's found a buyer

948
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: for the Medigliani.

949
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 5: Right.

950
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: The dude's name is Yonatan byrne b I r n Right, Elizabeth,

951
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 2: this guy is not cut out for this world. Oh no,

952
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: He's a thirty three year old watchmaker. He attended the

953
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,479
Speaker 2: Sore Bone and got an art degree there. He owns

954
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: a small clockmaker shop and apparently he had just enough

955
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: money to buy the stolen Madigliani. No, but well, not

956
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: that I know of. After he does buy it, he

957
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: stashes away in a security deposit box in a bank.

958
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: That's how the story goes. Now, Satisfied with this clockmaker

959
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: coming into their criminal conspiracy, Corvet arranges with Tomuch to

960
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: give Yonatan Burne the other four paintings. It's like, this

961
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 2: guy can move him. I'm telling you this guy.

962
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 5: Yeah.

963
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: It turns out Corve was able to sell the Leger,

964
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: but the buyer then returned it like a day later,

965
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: after he got worried about the police investigations showing up

966
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: at his door. He's like, no, no, take it back,

967
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't want yeah, too much, too much, so too much.

968
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 2: And Corvet are like, yeah, let's give it to the clockmakers.

969
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: See what he can do with these. So what does

970
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: burn do? He flies to Tel Aviv, Israel, and he

971
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: says this point December twenty ten. When he gets there,

972
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 2: Burne reports that he's got lined up a buyer and

973
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: I got somebody to move at least one painting. We

974
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: know this because the French detectives are now onto Corvet

975
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: as the fence for Tomach because they've been following him

976
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: so long they figured out he's the fence. Yeah, so

977
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: they also have him on a wire tap, so they're

978
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: just listening all along. French detectives like what's he saying now?

979
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're like, this is a fantastic fiction. It

980
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: couldn't possibly be true.

981
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what they do next. So

982
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 2: the clockmaker calls him Israel and he says, he tells Corvet,

983
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: I had the first meeting. I believe ninety p nine

984
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 2: percent we are gonna pass this through and so the

985
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: Parisian cops hear this fence and Corvet replies better than before,

986
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: so they're all excited, right, and the French cops were like, yeah,

987
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: high fiving, like this going down, So they're working that

988
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: same wiretap the French detectives also here. Krve tell Tomitch

989
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 2: that he's lined up a Saudi buyer for some of

990
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 2: the stolen artwork. Now I don't know if that buyer

991
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: was like BSD or not, if he was like double

992
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: talking him, but Corve claimed that the clockmaker burn planned

993
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: to meet this guy in Israel. Okay, but I can

994
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: tell you that Corve later called Tomach and told him, oh,

995
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: the deal's off with the Saudi buyer. He backed out,

996
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 2: So we've never having the Saudi buyer really come into

997
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 2: the picture. But they have a solution because Burne tells

998
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: both of them, Tomich and Corve that quote there's a

999
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 2: Russian jew who is capable of taking the paint things,

1000
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: so we sell to him, right, So like Elizabeth, this

1001
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 2: other shady buyer he also never materializes. So there's just

1002
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: these rumored people now, just like it's turning into like,

1003
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: you know, the Maltese Falcon, right, you know, like the

1004
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: Gutman character. It's like people I imagine he did business

1005
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: with in that book, right, That's what we're down to,

1006
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: is that list?

1007
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 5: Yes?

1008
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 2: So at this point, now it's May of twenty eleven,

1009
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: one year after the museum heist, an anonymous person contacts

1010
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: the French detectives and tells them Corvee has the missing paintings, right,

1011
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: but not only that, he's he's like, he is a

1012
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: sketchy dude. He may he doesn't handle pressure well and

1013
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: I think he may do something drastic like destroy the paintings.

1014
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: And if you need to watch fixed im yeah barely.

1015
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: Tomitch makes a recording of Corvet telling him and I quote,

1016
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: I would have preferred that you didn't bring me these

1017
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 2: things because I don't know what to do with them anymore.

1018
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: I am sick of it.

1019
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 3: Right.

1020
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: So do I think it was Tomach who contacted the detectives, Yes, yes,

1021
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 2: I do. I thought no. I think it was Tomach

1022
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: trying to get a control of the situation again, Okay,

1023
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: and you'll see why later. But anyway, at this point,

1024
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: now the cops have the updates. So what do you

1025
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: think the French detectives did with this new piece of

1026
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: the puzzle. Isabeth didn't believe it. If you guessed nothing,

1027
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: you've been paying attention. Meanwhile, Tomich is now getting desperate. Yeah,

1028
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: he can't get his money. He's done spent up the

1029
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: forty grand that he got for the Ligier painting. Right,

1030
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: he still hasn't seen another single euro from this heist.

1031
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: He needs his money, he needs his sailboat, and being impulsive,

1032
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: he decides to give into a bad idea. So he

1033
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: decides to rob an apartment in the nicest part of

1034
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: Paris just to get himself some you know, rolling around money.

1035
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: So Tomach is walking around on the Avenue Montaigne, which

1036
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 2: is right by where he is, right by the Canadian Embassy.

1037
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: So it's amongst this homes of the ultra wealthy. Yeah right.

1038
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: He sees this one duplex. The lights are on, he

1039
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: passes by. Later, the lights are still on. He passes again,

1040
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: lights are on. You guessed it, Elizabeth, still on the

1041
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: third time he passes. So Tomuch decides this is a

1042
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: sign the owners are not around and too much he's

1043
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 2: gonna slide on in, So he gives into impulse. Now

1044
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: keep in mind, he thinks he's being followed by the

1045
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: French police. He thinks they're always watching him. He's like,

1046
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: I can still pull this off, and they are. They

1047
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: are following him that night, and they're they're trying not

1048
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 2: to get spotted. So there's like this comedy of errors

1049
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 2: where it's because it's difficult because as the night goes

1050
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: on and we get closer to one am, two am,

1051
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 2: three am, there's a few few people out on the streets.

1052
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: It's just the cops and Tomach walking around on these

1053
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: alleys acting like, hey, zu fellow, you're doing so to

1054
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: much though needs the money badly, so cops are no cops.

1055
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: He's like, I got to do what I've got to do.

1056
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: So he ditches the cops by well scaling up the

1057
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 2: side of a building. Cops can't do that, so they

1058
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: watch like, oh darn it. So he gets up on

1059
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: the top of the building right and like parkour right,

1060
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: and he starts to like tom climbs the facade and

1061
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: then he gets to a fire escape that uses that

1062
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: to get to the roof and he scampers from roof

1063
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: to roof parkor right, and then he's on slanted metal

1064
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 2: rooftops down cat in the park and then he works

1065
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 2: his way from one building to the other.

1066
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 3: Who's the French actor who does that kind of stuff.

1067
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 3: He was in one of the Ocean's movies. He's like

1068
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 3: the French batty. I can never remember his name.

1069
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 2: Vincent Cassel.

1070
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love picture picture of that.

1071
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: Just a little bit buffer.

1072
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but yeah Parkour. So now at this point

1073
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 3: he the face of the Zodia.

1074
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: He goes leaping from building to building, right, and then

1075
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: he ties off a rope that he has with him.

1076
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: He lowers himself down into the apartment with the lights

1077
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: on all the time through an open skylight window. Total

1078
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 2: cinematic moment. Right now he's inside the fully lit luxury apartment.

1079
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 2: So what does he do. He stays still and silent.

1080
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: He waits to hear if there's any noise of any ocus.

1081
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 2: As he puts it, you have to go into listening mode.

1082
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: It is very important in order to avoid and encounter there.

1083
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 2: So he finds no one is home, Elizabeth. He's in luck.

1084
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: It's just him and all their fabulous artwork. So he

1085
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: goes shopping in the apartment and then you know, he's

1086
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: gazed into a couple times. He's got some ideas, right,

1087
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 2: So at this point, he's got confirmation, as he put it,

1088
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: on this playground, the treasure hunt was about to stop.

1089
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: Oh god, but that's n I did not have much

1090
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: time left. I had to come back in another time.

1091
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: So after that, he lets himself out that night and

1092
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 2: he decides he'll go back another night to that same

1093
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 2: apartment and just scour it for hidden treasures. Elzabeth, he

1094
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: came back to that same apartment fifteen times fifteen, which

1095
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: also means, Elizabeth, he ditched the French detectives fifteen times.

1096
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 3: What how.

1097
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: They should learn partore?

1098
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: I just also what are you going to do? Fifteen times?

1099
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: Well, he was, he was, he was convinced that there

1100
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: was hidden treasures because this house was so nice. He's

1101
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 2: trying to find like hidden safes, because these are super

1102
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 2: wealthy people. If he can like go along the wall,

1103
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 2: find where the release button is, any statues, he'sisting, Yeah,

1104
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: he's he convinced he's missed the real score.

1105
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 3: Okay, he doesn't have a fence anymore, so he's got

1106
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 3: to have like trying to.

1107
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 2: Find jewelry now, and really jewelry exactly loose it him

1108
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: so he can turn them quick to the black market.

1109
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 2: So but when you press your luck that much, eventually,

1110
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: Lady Luck, it's offended. She turns on you. And that's

1111
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: exactly what happened to Tomich when he went back for

1112
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: the Fateful fifteenth trip its May twelfth, twenty eleven. Now

1113
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: you see Tomich. He arranges with Corvet to buy a

1114
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: Pisarro painting that he saw in this apartment.

1115
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 3: How wait, he's talking still trust.

1116
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 2: He's the only fence he knows. He doesn't have any friends.

1117
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: His only other friend is this unhoused guy he never

1118
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: He goes and buys drinks and dinner for it.

1119
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 3: But there's still said five paintings that he hasn't been able.

1120
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: To get him a sixth. So he goes back to Nabbit.

1121
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: He has to ditch the French detectives or a talium,

1122
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 2: which he does. He goes back to his spot and

1123
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: there's the pisarro. He sees another painting of this met singer.

1124
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: He's like, I'll take that. I won't be able to

1125
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: move this onelin's that And then he's like, ohin And

1126
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: then he grabs ten expensive watches from the owner's watch

1127
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: and watch it.

1128
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 3: Now you're in the ball.

1129
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then he gets two undergrams of loose jewelry, right,

1130
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: that's his estimation to under Graham stuff. Finally, he scoops

1131
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 2: up the masterpiece, panting the pissarrow. Then he bounces out,

1132
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 2: breezy as ever, climbs back down from the rooftop, evades

1133
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 2: the French detectives again, makes it back to his car,

1134
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 2: opens the trunk, slides in the stolen masterpieces, and whoosh,

1135
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: just like that, he's gone. He drives off into the night,

1136
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: the stillness of the dark streets except him, and just

1137
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: like that, Elizabeth, he's done it again. However, the same

1138
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 2: night is also when it comes to an end for Tomage.

1139
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 2: How can that be?

1140
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 3: How can that be?

1141
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 2: You wonder, great question, Elizabeth. Well, Elizabeth, rather than let.

1142
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 3: Me tell you about it, like you to as a

1143
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 3: close I'd.

1144
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: Like you to picture it. You are in Paris, Elizabeth.

1145
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 2: You're huddled up with other officers and the police command trucks,

1146
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: seated around a screen. The few other cops, all of

1147
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: them are French, and someone brings you a fresh cup

1148
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: of coffee. Tired of getting played by the cat burglar

1149
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: Toumach the man who takes to the rooftops and loses

1150
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 2: a police tail with his parkour and whatnot. The French

1151
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: detectives have called in Special Inspector DCI Dutton on loan

1152
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: from the London Flying Squad. Elizabeth, you are on the case.

1153
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: That's the move now in it now. It's been another

1154
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 2: long late night with these laisse a fair French police

1155
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 2: who have been taking their time recovering their nation's stolen

1156
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 2: art treasures. They've been playing cat and mouse with their

1157
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 2: cat burglar, with the parkourp habit for far too long,

1158
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: and you were brought in to get results. When you

1159
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: first got to Paris, the first thing you asked the

1160
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: French police was about surveillance, and you were told that

1161
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 2: the suspect is under surveillance, but it's impossible to follow

1162
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: him because of how he climbs buildings and whatnot. You

1163
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 2: asked how he gets around when he's not climbing buildings.

1164
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: No one answers. You ask if he has a car.

1165
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: One of the French detectives is like, oh we that's

1166
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 2: when you convince the French cops to play see tracking

1167
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 2: device on his car, say Geniel, Elizabethray, brilliant tonight, your

1168
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 2: police work is paying off because you and the French

1169
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: detectives are watching the little flashing light that is Tom's

1170
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 2: renal as it blink drives around on a map of Paris.

1171
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: Then a police radio crackles to life. One of the

1172
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 2: surveillance guys reports back to the substation command center. His

1173
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 2: team spotted Tomich come back to his car, and he

1174
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: loaded something into the trunk before he drove off. You

1175
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 2: ignore the fact that they let him drive off. You

1176
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: grab the radio and you tell the team to pull

1177
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: him over. You tell them where he presently is on

1178
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 2: the map. And then your fellow officer from the Parisian

1179
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 2: police takes the police radio from you, and he repeats

1180
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: everything you just said, but in French you nod, thanking

1181
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 2: him in that sort of macho cop way. And now

1182
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: you wait. Meanwhile, the French surveillance team springs into action.

1183
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 2: They load into their sensible guess saving European cars, and

1184
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 2: they give chase on that rainy late night street. The

1185
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: detective eventually catch up Totomich at his house. Just as

1186
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: he pulls up and steps out of his car, the

1187
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: police arrive. It's perfect timing. Back at the command center,

1188
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: the police radio crackles to life again. They got him.

1189
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: Not only that When the detectives opened up the trunk

1190
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 2: of his car, they found a stolen pisarro, a met

1191
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: singer painting, ten luxury watches, and roughly two hundr gram's

1192
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 2: of jewelry. You and the French police celebrate with some

1193
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: hearty cheers, high fives. Someone pops a bottle of champagne.

1194
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Zaren. When the French police raid to much his

1195
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 2: apartment that same morning, they find all sorts of cat

1196
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: burglar equipment, heist tools, a grappling hook.

1197
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 3: Suction cuffs, suction cuffs. But like he finally just started

1198
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 3: going to La Costco and getting like a big box

1199
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: a section cuts.

1200
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get like eight in a row, and you

1201
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 2: have like a couple boxes over there. So he's got

1202
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 2: those and there kind a corner leaned up against the side,

1203
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: and the cops are like, oh, he was a professional.

1204
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: So they at this point realized that they're dealing with

1205
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: the probably the guy, because who else has grappling hooks.

1206
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 2: But there's no stolen artwork, nothing from the Museum of

1207
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: Modern Art to tie him in. So this is where

1208
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: things get weird. Elizabeth, hearing about the bust of Tomich

1209
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: the clockmaker, burn gathers up all five stolen artworks from

1210
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: the museum heist. Apparently terrified that he will be caught,

1211
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: he destroys all five irreplaceable masterpieces throws them in a

1212
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 2: dumpster outside his shop. Oh no, that's the story. Back

1213
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 2: in police custody, Tomitch takes care of any confusion the

1214
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 2: police still have about him by giving them a full confession.

1215
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: He tells them about his fence, Corvet, and the clockmaker

1216
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: Burn everything. Mainly he wants the police to know it

1217
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: was him. He wants credit for his masterpiece robbery because

1218
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: now that they have Tomich the prison detectives, they tighten

1219
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: the noose on Corvet and the clockmaker Yonitan Burn right

1220
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 2: the cops. They raid the clockmaker's shop the gallery of

1221
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 2: the fence, but still no stolen paintings. And in jail,

1222
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 2: Tomich tries to contact the clockmaker Burn and find out

1223
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: what he did with his stolen artwork. Now, Burn at

1224
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: this point is terrified of him because remember it not

1225
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 2: meant for this world. Yeah, he asks for increased protection

1226
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 2: from the prison. He eventually puts up a mattress against

1227
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: his cell door just so that Tomitch can't come by

1228
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 2: and keep looking in through the little window at him

1229
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: and intimidating him. Eventually though this I don't know why

1230
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: it takes so long, But in twenty seventeen, six years later,

1231
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 2: the three men are all tried together.

1232
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1233
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: At their trial, a French newspaper describes Corvet and his

1234
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: slicked back white hair as having the same look and

1235
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: feel of a Disney villain, so they're really on his side.

1236
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: The reporters also report that the clockmaker has the look

1237
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: of a confused student, so he's written off as the idiot,

1238
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: but they fall in love with Tomich. They're like this now,

1239
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: So the Darren cat Burglar, right, who's pulled off the

1240
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: greatest French art heist in the least a generation, if

1241
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: not ever, and did it without ever hurting anybody. He's

1242
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: like a folk hero now he's a figure of fiction

1243
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 2: come to real life, a cinematic figure from this bygone

1244
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: era of the City of Lights that they love and know. Right,

1245
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 2: they call him the spider Man of Paris. Have this

1246
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: one reporter from Le Figaro He said, French people are

1247
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 2: very fond of thieves stories. When there is no blood

1248
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: for us, so much is a perfect thief? Why is

1249
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: he perfect? Elizabeth has no blood exactly right. Well, also

1250
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 2: he acted yeah in the parkourps that's for me now,

1251
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: as the French reporter said, he acted without weapons, did

1252
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 2: not strike anyone, robbed, not an individual. But they poorly

1253
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: supervised museum fooled the guards without any difficulty and chose

1254
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 2: the works he took with taste, so they applaud his taste.

1255
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: There was another journalist who pointed out that the French

1256
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: really like to upset the established social order, and to

1257
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: carry out his point, he says, look no further than

1258
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 2: the rebellions of seventeen eighteen nine, seventeen ninety two, eighteen thirty,

1259
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: eighteen forty eight, eighteen seventy one, nineteen thirty six and

1260
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty eight. Oh man, who knows their history? Well,

1261
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: all three men and they're in their trial. They of

1262
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 2: course get found guilty. The corve sixty one at the time,

1263
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: he catches a seven year sentence. The clockmaker burned forty

1264
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 2: at the time, he gets sent up for six years.

1265
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: The cat burglar Tomich forty nine at the time he

1266
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: gets an eight year sentence. But saren what about the paintings?

1267
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 2: Were they really destroyed by the paranoid watchmaker. Did Tomich

1268
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: hide them or did the clockmaker portray them all and

1269
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: just lie about it? Is this all a ruse?

1270
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1271
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 2: Look at your face, Elizabeth. I wish I could tell

1272
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: you no one knows except for Jean Thomechin Jonatan Byrne.

1273
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 2: But I do have a happy ending for you though.

1274
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1275
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 2: So, just before he was put on trial, Tomich met

1276
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: this woman outside of a cafe. She was reading a

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Speaker 2: book about UFOs. He asked her about it. They started chatting.

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Speaker 2: They hit it off, They started chatting on Facebook. They

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Speaker 2: become an item Facebook official. I guess his new galpal.

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Speaker 2: Her name is Corin Opiola. She's a fun shwe consultant,

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Speaker 2: so right in line with him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Her new man turns up on the news for being

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Speaker 2: on trial for the greatest art heist in French history.

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Speaker 2: She's like, oh, man, right, But at this point she,

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Speaker 2: you know, she stays flexible about it. She's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. She's so in love, right, So when

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Speaker 2: he's found guilty, she decides she'll stay closer with him.

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Speaker 2: She starts visiting him each week in prison. After eight years,

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Speaker 2: Tomitch gets out of prison earlier this year. No less,

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth and she was there to pick him up. She

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Speaker 2: drove him out to the coast and they that way

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Speaker 2: he could feel how free he was, and they have

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Speaker 2: the rest of their lives together if they so decide. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I well, finally, Basically, my point is this Tomich finally

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Speaker 2: had someone who stuck by him and bet on him

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Speaker 2: and his evolution as a person, someone who just give

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Speaker 2: up on him as like, oh, shunt him.

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Speaker 3: Over there, shut him over there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, someone who saw his poet's soul and the impulsive

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Speaker 2: choices he makes as a criminal. It's like, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I can balance this out and we can have a

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Speaker 2: nice life together. I could calm him down. I'm pulling

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Speaker 2: for these two crazy kids to make a go of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't fix anybody, Lady, make a run for it.

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Speaker 3: I'm pulling for him.

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Speaker 2: I think they fit well. Who knows, what's our ridiculous

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Speaker 2: takeaway here, Elizabeth, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to kind of like uno reverse you on

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Speaker 3: this slightly. Is that My takeaway is that this is

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Speaker 3: terribly cinematic, and I know you like to do the

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Speaker 3: game of who would you cast in this? Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: you know we've got Vincent Cassel as a spider. Yes,

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Speaker 3: So who would you cast in the other two roles.

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of thinking the Harry Potter kid for the watchmaker.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I like that. That's a good call, Daniel Daniel Radcliffe. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then for the old guy. Oh, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you know the actor. I think it's Peter Capaldi.

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Speaker 2: He's like a Doctor Who guy. He played one of

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Speaker 2: the doctor Okay, well he was a villain on the

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Speaker 2: moment of my The Musketeers show that he'd be good. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 3: I also was thinking that, you know, we have this

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Speaker 3: question about you cast, but that's it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that.

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Speaker 3: I was kind of thinking, like, I think he's too old,

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Speaker 3: but Brian Cox would be great for the fun. And

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Speaker 3: then to have the last scene of like those paintings

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Speaker 3: are all hung in like an oligarch's house. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: we know they survived.

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Speaker 2: You get the happy ending for the painting exactly like that. Well,

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Speaker 2: since you're not gonna ask my ridiculous takeaway, Elizabeth, thank

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Speaker 2: you for not asking yet again.

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Speaker 3: Well, I asked you to help me cast mine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you do. Was very considered of you. Let

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Speaker 2: me play along your sandbox. Did I had fun? Is

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Speaker 2: that cat Pete anyway? So I like these two crazy

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Speaker 2: kids I'm pulling from. I like the Tom she finally

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Speaker 2: found somebody because he's like, hey, you're reading a book

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Speaker 2: about UFOs. She's like, yes, I am. And then they're

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Speaker 2: like they're weird matched up. I'm pulling for them.

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Speaker 7: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: That's fine. You haven't good for a talkback, maybe to

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Speaker 2: something to clear the palette.

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Speaker 3: I love talkbacks.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, I get.

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Speaker 2: Hi, everybody.

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Speaker 3: This is DELI.

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Speaker 7: So I'm listening right now to the Pokemon episode. And

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Speaker 7: I am not even joking when I say there's a

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Speaker 7: car driving behind me with like fifteen plushies of different

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Speaker 7: Pokemon and stickers all over a pikachuw And I just

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Speaker 7: find this very funny.

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Speaker 3: For me, love me, I love yeah, the synergy. But

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Speaker 3: like you know, just everywhere you go now she'll see

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Speaker 3: Pokemon everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Pokemon when life winks at you like that?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for listening. As always, you can find

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