1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Monday edition of Fair Territory, the 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: Winter Meetings edition of Fair Territory. We've got a ton 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: to get to this morning. Hall of Fame things happening 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: at the Winter Meetings. Not too much happening just yet, 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: but I would expect over the next couple of days 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: we will have some action. The expectation is that, yes, 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: some deals will go down, trades, free agent signings and 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: the like. So let's get right to the news of 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: the day, which is the Hall of Fame vote from 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: last night, the Contemporary Era Committee electing Jeff Kent to 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. He is the newest Hall of 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: Famer and it was an interesting ballot, to say the least, 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: the eight names. I had no problem with any of 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: these guys getting elected, but of course Kent was the 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: only one who ultimately received twelve of the sixteen votes 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: seventy five percent from that committee, and that is why 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: he will be the inductee from this group going into 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Carlos Delgado nine votes, again needing twelve. 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: Mattingley and Murphy got six eight. You see the vote 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: totals right there, Kent with fourteen, Delgatto nine, Mattinglee, Murphy six, 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: and then Bonds, Clemens, Sheffield and balance Well all less 22 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: than five. And what that means is they will not 23 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: be eligible those guys with less than five votes in 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: the next cycle three years from now, and if they 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: get less than five in twenty thirty one, the next 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: time they are eligible, they will not be ever on 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: the ballot any ballot again. So for Bonds and Clemens 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: in particular, they're in real peril here of not getting 29 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame. We've seen this now through 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: ten years of BBWA votes, We've seen it through two 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: committee votes now is not surprising. And at the same time, 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: I know there are certain people who are good with 33 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: this and there are certain fans people who are not 34 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: good with it at all. When they were on the 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: bout the BBWA ballot, I did not initially vote for them, 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: but once I felt that there are other Hall of 37 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: famers who were getting elected that had used performance dancing drugs. 38 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna mention names, but once I felt that 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: it'd been happening, that line had been broken, then I 40 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: did vote for Bonds and Clemens. I don't vote for 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: guys who tested positive or were suspended by Major League 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: Baseball after Firmer rules were in place, a Rod and Manny, 43 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: but the ones before that, generally, yes, I do vote 44 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: for them, not all of them. Socide didn't get to 45 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: in time, MacGuire, etc. But enough about that. The real 46 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: question here is how do we deal with this era? 47 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: And it's still the question, and unfortunately the BBWAA and 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: these committees don't have great answers because we know there 49 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: are Hall of Famers who used peds. It's a reasonable 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: assumption at this point there are some players who have 51 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: been linked to peds in one form or another. And 52 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: then we know also that Bonds and Clemens, arguably the 53 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: greatest hitter and pitcher of this generation, are not in 54 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the right answer is. There really 55 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: is no right answer. And yes, if you're a fan 56 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: and you see contradictions, you're absolutely right. There are contradictions. 57 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: But these are the votes. And if you look at 58 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: the committee, the guys who rejected Bonds and Clemens this time, 59 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: it's interesting because there were seven Hall of famers on 60 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: that committee, players who are not exactly contemporaries, all of 61 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: them with Bonds and Clemens, but certainly players that had 62 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: some familiarity with them, to say the least. Fergie Jenkins, 63 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: Jim Cott, Juan marischal Tony Perez, Ozzie Smith, and Alan 64 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: Trammel were the players on that committee, along with Robin Yeat. 65 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: Then there were five executives actually six and three researcher 66 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: writer types. So that is the group that decided no. 67 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: And again you're not seeing any greater support on these committees, 68 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: which are comprised partly actually the majority or not the majority, 69 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: but of good number of Hall of Fame members. They're 70 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: not giving Bonds and Clemens any more quarter than the 71 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: writers did when they were on the Writer's bout. One 72 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: other thing I want to mention with the Hall of Fame, 73 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: and it's interesting, Jeff Kent certainly were the most home 74 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: runs ever by a second basement. I voted for him 75 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: when he was on the BBWAA ballot. But when you 76 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: elect guys then people often say, well what about this 77 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: guy or that guy? And I want to show you 78 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: a comp with Lou Whittaker, between Kent and Lou Whittaker, 79 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: because Lou Whitaker fell off the baut in his first year. 80 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: And I am hopeful that one day a Veterans Committee 81 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: or one of these committees is going to recognize him 82 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: as the rightful Hall of Famer he is along with 83 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Alan Trammel. You see this graphic here, the comparison from 84 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: Stadhead Baseball that CJ. Nikowski posted last night. They're very 85 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: comparable players. Yes, Kent had more power, but Lou Whittaker 86 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: in his day was every bit the player. Jeff Kent 87 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: was a different kind of player perhaps, but man, it's 88 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: pretty close. Lou Whitaker should be in. This should be 89 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: good news for Chase Utley as well going forward. So 90 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: that's the Hall of Fame vote. We can debate it 91 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: all day long, and I'm sure people will, but that's 92 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: where we are with that as of Monday, December eighth. Now, 93 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: Winter Meetings last night reported something that I thought was 94 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: pretty interesting, to say the least, and I was surprised 95 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: to hear it that the Pirates have made a four 96 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: year offer to Kyle Schwarber. Now, do I expect the 97 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: Pirates to sign Kyle Schwarber, Absolutely not, but the fact 98 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: that they're in there swinging and I imagine and I 99 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: reported that this offer almost certainly is for more than 100 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: one hundred million. Otherwise why bother. That is a major step. 101 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: And I've been reporting all winter really or all off 102 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: season about how the Pirates are being more aggressive, how 103 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: they finally are trying to put a team around Paul 104 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: Skeins that would be worthy of contention. Schwarber is at 105 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: the top of their list. They know he is probably 106 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: going to be someone who gets a better offer from 107 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: a better team. But at the same time, they're in there, 108 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Reds are in there. There are other big 109 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: market teams in there, like the Boston Red Sox. So Schwarber, 110 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: it's not clear exactly when he's going to sign yet. 111 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: Maybe it will be at these meetings, maybe not, but 112 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: he clearly is in demand now. I also wrote today 113 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: about another team that is somewhat in a comparable position 114 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: to the Pirates because they have a great picture their 115 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: own sy young winner. That's the Tigers with Trek Scrubele. Now, 116 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: what I wrote about the Tigers was a column. It 117 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: was opinion, and at the same time it was something 118 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: I felt strongly about because to me, if the Tigers 119 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: are going to keep Trek Scruble not trade him, which 120 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: appears to be the case, you never know, but certainly 121 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: it appears to be the way they are leaning. Unless 122 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: they get overwhelmed, then you've got one year of Schooble left. 123 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: In my view, you've got to take your best shot. 124 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about doing something stupid. I'm talking 125 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: about putting the best team possible around him. Tiger's President 126 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: Baseball Operation, Scott Harris, in my view, has been pretty 127 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: risk of a verse in his time for reasons that 128 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: are understandable. He was trying to build up a team 129 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: that had fallen apart. But at the same time, here 130 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: are a situation, or here is a situation where it 131 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: seems to me it's time to go. And again, I 132 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: don't know who the players are that they should get. Necessarily, 133 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: they can certainly use another bat. We know that. We 134 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: also know that they could use a number two starter 135 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: behind Schooble, someone who, if they signed long term, could 136 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: be Schooble's replacement. Should he leave as a free agent, Yes, 137 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: I expect him to leave as a free agent. He's 138 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: represented by Scott Boris. He's one year away. He's going 139 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: to hit the jackpop probably break yamamotos three hundred and 140 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: twenty five million dollar record for a pitcher as a 141 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: free agent as long as he is healthy, and if 142 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: that happens, the Tigers are left with a draft pick 143 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: and only a draft pick in return. That said, I 144 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: like that they're pretty stubborn right now about keeping him. 145 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: They want to keep him, they want to win with him. Well, okay, 146 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: but if you want to win with him, then you've 147 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: got to do some things around him. And I mentioned 148 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: some name Calm Gregman. Obviously, they made the six year, 149 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy one point five million dollar offer 150 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: to him last winter. He didn't take it. He took 151 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: less from the Red Sox. I wouldn't expect him to 152 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: necessarily choose Detroit over any of the teams that might 153 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: be interested in him this offseason when he already rejected 154 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: them once when they had a higher guarantee on the table. 155 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: Boba Schett would be an interesting player for the Tigers. 156 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,359 Speaker 1: Hashan Kim would be an interesting player for the Tigers. 157 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: The pitching market is not quite as impressive as you 158 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: would want it to be, and the executives keep telling 159 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: me and others that they're not all that impressed with 160 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: the remaining group, which is Ranger Suarez and Sachua am 161 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: I and from er Valdez. The good pitchers, no question 162 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: about it. But I don't know that anyone is overwhelmed 163 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: by their abilities on a long term, not the way 164 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: they would be with perhaps a schoobl next year or 165 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: Paul Skins once he becomes a free agent. So here 166 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: are the Tigers. They're in an interesting spot here, and 167 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: I get that they don't want to block younger players. 168 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: I get that with Javier Bayez a few years ago 169 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: it didn't work out for them, but it shouldn't prevent 170 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: a team from trying again. It's not easy. But at 171 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: the same time, we've seen with the Orioles, keep playing 172 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: for next year, keep waiting for these prospects. It doesn't 173 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: always go in a linear fashion. So from that perspective, 174 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm concerned with the Tigers. I want to see them 175 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: do something this offseason. A few things really show up 176 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: their bullpen as well, to ensure that win, to ensure 177 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: that in their final season, what likely is their final 178 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: season with Trek Scubel, they take their best shot. All Right, 179 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: That is it for the first segment. We've got a 180 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: long way to go here. 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Give us a sub well well, well. 196 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: Well, all right, Time out for the Inside Dish, the 197 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: part of the show where I go inside a story 198 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: of written a trend in the game, talk about something 199 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: else entire and today I want to talk about what 200 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: it's like to cover the Winter Meetings. Now, I've been 201 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: at this a long time. I'm a little older than 202 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: some of the other writers right now, Okay, whatever, And 203 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: I try very hard not to look back and say, man, 204 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: it was better back then. But you know what, covering 205 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: the Winter Meetings was a better experience earlier in my career, 206 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: and even before I started covering. It's gotten more buttoned 207 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: down over the years, more conservative in what teams do 208 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: and all of that. I'm not saying teams shouldn't act 209 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: as efficiently as possible. I'm just saying that back in 210 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: the day, and I'm going to give you some stories 211 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: to show you what I'm talking about. There were some 212 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: wilder things going on than there seemed to be at 213 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: the meetings in these last few years or so. So 214 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: there's one story. I have my favorite Winter Meeting story 215 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: that I'm saving for my book if I ever write 216 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: a book. It's too good to talk about here. It's 217 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: too good to write for the Athletic. It's for a book. 218 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into that. But I want 219 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: to go back in time a little bit. Now. I'll 220 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: go back to start with before my time, nineteen seventy five, 221 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: the Diplomat Hotel in Hollywood, Florida. Rowand Heeman, general manager 222 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: of the Chicago White Sox, the late rowand Haeman. I 223 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: covered him with the Oriols. One of the great people 224 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: in our game. He was working for Bill Beck and 225 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: Rowan Haeman set up a table in the lobby of 226 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: the Diplomat Hotel, put up a sign and said open 227 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: for business. The White Sox then made four trades in 228 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, a span of an hour something like that. 229 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: Big trades too. Mickey Lowich was involved in one rusty 230 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: stob Ralph Gorr. That was maybe the peak winter meeting's 231 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: craziness moment. You don't see GM's in the lobby today. 232 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: They're in their suites, they're huddled up, they're texting. There 233 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: was no texting back then. There were phones. There were 234 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: actual phones that worked. But that's how rowand Heeman did it. 235 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: All right, that's nineteen seventy five. Now let's go back 236 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: a little bit closer to the current time. My star 237 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty seven, and some of my favorite Winter 238 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: meetings have been in the last I don't know, twenty 239 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: years or so, two thousand and six, right here in Orlando, 240 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: legendary winter meetings, different hotel. Jim Hendry, then general manager 241 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: of the Chicago Cubs. He's now working for the Yankees 242 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: for Brian Cashman. Jim Hendry signed Ted Lilly to a 243 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: four year, forty million dollars deal while hooked up to 244 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: an EKG. He was having heard trouble and it turned 245 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: out he needed a procedure at another hospital later during 246 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: those winter meetings, but he did sign Lily even though 247 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: he was hooked up to an EKG. Incredible story and 248 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: luckily Jim is still with us and survived that whole affair. 249 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: That's one of the crazier things that I can remember 250 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: now twenty twelve. Wait, two thousand and seven. This is 251 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: one of the bigger ones I've ever broken. Back in 252 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: the day before Twitter. There was an Internet in two 253 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: thousand and seven, but if you were going to break 254 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: a story back then, you had to do it in 255 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: written form on a website. So that was the Miguel 256 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: Cabrera Dontrelle Willis for Andrew Miller, Cameron Maybon and four others. 257 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: Remember that Detroit Tigers, Florida Marlins, maybe the Miami Marlins 258 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: at the time, I don't remember which Marlins they were, 259 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: but whatever, I had it, and I had it pretty good. 260 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: I had the biggest names. I didn't have the secondary names, 261 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: but I had certainly Willis and Cabrera going to Detroit 262 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: maybe and Miller going back to Miami. And I remember 263 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: reporting it working for Fox Sports dot Com at that time, 264 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: and I remember also seeing the Detroit writers, many of 265 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: them who were my friends, kind of just messing around 266 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: in the media room and I'm waiting for the story 267 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: to post, and I'm thinking, oh, man, they're not going 268 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: to be happy when they see this, And it was 269 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: a big deal. That was one of the bigger trades 270 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: honestly that I can remember at the Winter meetings. And 271 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: of course Miguel Cabrera goes on to a Hall of 272 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: Fame career with the Tigers. All right, final story in 273 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: this one is a doozy twenty twelve. The Rangers, Rays, 274 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: and Diamondbacks pull an all nighter. They're trying to make 275 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: a trade in which Justin Upton would have gone to 276 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: the Rangers, James Shields would have gone to the Padres. 277 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: It never came to fruition, but JP Brosi and I 278 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: were both working for Fox Sports dot Com at the time, 279 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: and we decided, all right, let's divide this up. We 280 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: know they're going to be at it let's have JP work. 281 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was, eleven to four am, 282 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: and I get up at five am because I had 283 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: to do hot store for MLB network, and we'll just 284 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: cover it and monitor it, monitor it that way. So 285 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: we did that, and the next morning I see Kevin Towers, 286 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: the Padres GM strolling through the lobby. This was in Nashville, 287 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: I believe, and I know he had stayed up all 288 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: night and he's looking fresh as a days, fresh as 289 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: a daisy. Kevin Towers. Unfortunately, Kevin no longer is with us. 290 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: He was one of my all time favorites, everyone's all 291 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: time favorite. He had dible energy. He had an incredible, 292 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: infectious personality. And that's one thing I remember from that night. 293 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: And then that night was memorable for other reasons. Evan 294 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: Granted The Dallas Morning News later wrote a story about 295 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: just what happened in the suite when the Rangers, Rays, 296 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: and Padres were trying to work out these deals that night. 297 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: Kirk Gibson was the manager of the Diamondbacks at the 298 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: time and John Daniels was the general manager of the 299 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: Texas Rangers. They were going back and forth, jowing each other, 300 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: and Gibson basically was saying to John Daniels, I'm gonna 301 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: mess you up. And according to Evan's story, what happened 302 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: was Gibson headbutted John Daniels. He body slammed them to 303 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: the carpet, and then he put them in a choke hold. 304 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: And I guess the game was, see if John Daniels 305 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: can survive twenty seconds, and then maybe it gets another 306 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: player in the deal. Well it didn't work out that way, 307 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: but it's a hilarious story. And again, the thing I 308 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: remember most the next day, after staying up all night, 309 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: Towers strolling through that lobby, chested out held, head held 310 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: high or helld as high as possible, and just kind 311 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: of savored the moment, even though nothing turned out happened. 312 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: Those are the Winter Meeting stories that I cherished, that 313 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: I love. There was another one one year when Geene 314 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: Watson of the Kansas City Royals rock upball Deli. Then 315 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: with the Rays they were working on another James Shields trade, 316 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: the one that came to fruition. They were negotiating in 317 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: their pajamas in the hallway. I didn't see this, I 318 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: heard about it later. Those kinds of things don't really 319 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: happen anymore. Everyone's kind of hold up in their suites. 320 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna say it was better back then. 321 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: It was certainly different. It was a little bit more fun, 322 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: but still fun. The transactions that keep us all going, 323 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: keep us fired up. And I'm sure we're going to 324 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: see some more this week, if not necessarily here in Orlando, 325 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: the big ones in the days that follow. All right, 326 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: that's it for the inside dish. Now let's break in 327 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: for grilling Ken, which is coming up next. 328 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: Bet MGM account holders today, how about an any sport 329 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 2: parlay boost token. You can score a bigger payout if 330 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: your wager with that token. Hits tokens can be used 331 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: on parlays and on same game parlays. Gambling problem or concerned, 332 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: there's help called one eight hundred gambler. 333 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: All right, time now for grilling. Can the part of 334 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: the show? Right? I answer your questions, let's get to them. First. 335 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: One comes from d Gobble two kind of appropriate de Gobble. 336 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: With the recent thoughing of tensions between the O's and Nats, 337 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: would this make a gore trade more possible than before? 338 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: Good question, and tensions have thought between the two teams. 339 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: One reason Peter Angelos and his sons no longer own 340 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: the Orioles. They had the mass in dispute, remember the 341 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: regional network dispute with the Nationals, and it went on 342 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: forever and ever it's finally settled. The Ools are under 343 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: new ownership. I see no reason why these two teams 344 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: could not make a deal at this point. Now, whether 345 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: michae Elias wants Mackenzie Gore and is willing to meet 346 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: the Nationals price, that remains to be seen. That's a 347 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: separate question. But that would be a normal negotiation as 348 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: opposed to the Cold War that existed before. Gore is 349 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: attracting a lot of interest, obviously two years of control. 350 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: The Nationals want to move him, They're going to make 351 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: a pretty good trade for him, I would expect. Will 352 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: it be the Orioles. It would be great if the 353 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: Oriols for them. If they did it, I'm not sure 354 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: they'll be ultimately the team. All right. Next question, This 355 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: one comes from Mike, who asked, can you please ask 356 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: Jed Hoyer if he's aware that Zach Gallan gave up 357 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: the fourth most homers last season thirty one time that 358 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: showed it in Managa. Could the Gallon rumor be I 359 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: can't read the rest of it, but anyway, on Zach Gallant, now, 360 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: I understand people might look at the ERA and say, whoa, 361 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: he wasn't good, But in the last two months of 362 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: the season he was really good. Three point three two 363 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: ERA I believe looked much more like Zach Gallen, much 364 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: more in line with his career numbers. He is still 365 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: a quality major league pitcher. He's made twenty eight or 366 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: more starts each of the last five seasons. He's a 367 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: good guy to sign. If the Cubs get Zach Gallen, 368 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: they should be happy about that. Now. I know it 369 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: depends on the contract and all that, but if you're 370 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: a Cubs fan, you want Zach Gallen on your team. Okay. 371 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: I know about the home runs. That's an issue, of course, 372 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: but he had a rough four months to start the 373 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: season or really good two months to end it, and 374 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 1: based on everything he's done before, I would trust the 375 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: final two months. All right. Next question from Matt Lana, 376 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: who asked, what is your percent right now Schwarber signs 377 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: with the Reds? Any other moves are you hearing for 378 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: the Reds? I would say ten to fifteen percent. I 379 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: still really believe Schwarber is going back to the Phillies. Now. 380 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: The advantage of the red have over, for example, the Pirates, 381 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: another small market team. Is that Schorber is from Middletown, Ohio. 382 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: It's about thirty five miles north of Cincinnati. If he 383 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: wants to do a hometown thing and go back and 384 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: maybe take a little bit less, the Reds would be 385 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: a team the team to deal it with. He could 386 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: also justify it by thinking, Hey, I I'm gonna be 387 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: playing for Terry Francona, a Hall of Fame manager. I'm 388 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: gonna be the centerpiece of a lineup with a young 389 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: group of talented hitters that need me to be part 390 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: of them. Pirates can make the same argument. He can 391 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: make the same justification for them. I just think in 392 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: the end, my expectation is the Phillies beat whoever else 393 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: is in the mix and ultimately end up with Schwarber. 394 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: Just my feeling. If it doesn't happen that way, it 395 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: would be big news, for sure, it would be crazy. 396 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: But I just think those teams are long shots right now, 397 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: both the Pirates and the Reds. The Reds less so 398 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: because of the hometown connection, but both still long shots 399 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: in my estimation. All right, this one comes from Tyler 400 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,239 Speaker 1: Max Smith, who asked yesterday, and Thopoulos said, you have 401 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: to work with what's available, even when it's not the 402 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: cleanest fit. Could we see an unexpected deal from AA 403 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: Marte would certainly be an upgrade over Albi's. Good question, 404 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: because Alexanthopolis has made a lot of unexpected deals in 405 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: his career, and we certainly can see another one. And 406 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: it's an interesting thought on Marte because Albi's has declined. 407 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: He's not the player he was three, four or five 408 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: years ago. And yes, they picked up his option and 409 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: I expected that, but could they do better? And could 410 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: they maybe trade Albi's somewhere else if they got Marte, 411 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: or even put Marte I'm sorry, put Albi's in the deal. 412 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: Sure will they be the high bidder for Marte? I 413 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: don't know, but he is a really good player. The 414 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: Diamondbacks are getting hit on him by a number of clubs. 415 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: Mike Hays in their GM has said it's unlikely Marte 416 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: will be traded, but it's as unlikely until it actually happens. 417 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: I know they want a lot, they want to reinforce 418 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: their pitching. They reached agreement with Mike Soroka earlier today 419 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: on a one year deal. They need better than that 420 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: as their injured pitchers rehabilitate and they wait for them 421 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: to return. So I think Marte is a more likely 422 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: guy to be traded than many. But will the Braves 423 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: be the team that? I can't tell you? I don't know? 424 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: All right, here we go with another question. This one's 425 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: from SS Curtis fifty nine. Do you think the Padres 426 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: will dump some payroll? Dennis Lynn of The Athletic wrote 427 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: about this today. It certainly is possible, and the problem 428 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: they have is who they dump now. Paveta's name has 429 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: been bandied about. It's at least out there, but Aj 430 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: Preller always listens on all of his players, and I 431 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: don't know that it's likely he's going to be traded. 432 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: They need Pavetta after losing Michael King and Dylan Cease 433 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: to free agency. They need Pavetta, who was their best 434 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: pitcher last season, to be their anchor going forward. They 435 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: still want to compete, but they have had payroll issues. 436 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: Jake Cronaworth would be one guy they could trade. His 437 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: deal is a pretty good deal for a player of 438 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: his caliber. Five years sixty million left, but they don't 439 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: have many options to trade. So could aj Preller be 440 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: really creative and do something maybe with Paveta to get 441 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: younger starting pitchers in return. It's conceivable. I don't know 442 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: that it's likely, but the Padres are a team to 443 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 1: watch because they do have payroll concerns. All right, with that, 444 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: I want to thank everyone for their questions, everyone for 445 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,719 Speaker 1: following along. We've got a big week ahead on the 446 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: FT Network, so stay tuned. You've seen our schedule. We 447 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: return my show on Friday this week, not Thursday. We're 448 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: going to be back Friday at twelve thirty Eastern. The 449 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: winter meetings will be concluded by that point, but we'll 450 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: have a lot to talk about. I am sure have 451 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: a great week. Everyone will be back twelve thirty Friday 452 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: with Alana. Thanks again for joining us.