1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Good. Welcome to Forties and free Agents, the podcast where myself, 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal and Daniel Jeremiah break down all the impact 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: of the free agency market and the NFL Draft. And 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: you might be wondering, it's August. Why are we talking 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: about free agency and the draft? The fans demanded it, DJ, 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: and we're back looking at the season, going over the 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: biggest additions in the offseason and how they're going to 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: play now that we're getting to the regular season. How 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: is your summer, buddy? 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: Oh? It was great, man. I will say, though I'm 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: a little disappointed because I didn't for some reason, the 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: audio wasn't able to hear the theme song, And in 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: terms of things I enjoy about the show, theme song 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: is pretty high up there on that list, So not 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: getting to hear that was painful. But I'm sure the 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: audience heard it and they loved it. And it is 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: also good to see you and the people did demand 18 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: this because we talked about paper. We talked about paper 19 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: all spring. Oh, paper, this is what they got in 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: free agency, this is what they got in the draft. 21 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: You know what we get to talk. 22 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: About now, Greg, what they're doing on the grass or 23 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: I guess for some of them, but way more fun. 24 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're we're already into the dog days of training camp. 25 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: And yeah, we appreciated the demand, the big pop we 26 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: got from this show. And if you like the show, 27 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: do us a favor. Go ahead and subscribe to forties 28 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: and free Agents on iTunes, Spotify, wherever you get it. 29 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: I want to make it so that you don't have 30 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: to subscribe to NFL Daily or move the sticks that 31 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: we're like. We're like a bird that can start going 32 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: off on our own and subscribe to forties and free Agents. 33 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: So a lot of people don't know this about you, DJ, 34 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: but you've never actually watched NFL games. You only watch college. 35 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: So I'll do all the NFL big additions. You do 36 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: the college guys, and why don't you get going. We're 37 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: going to do the five biggest additions in the entire 38 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: division of the NFC West, and you can start wherever 39 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: you want. 40 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: So I'm doing this because we have the freedom to 41 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: do how we want it. I'm not saying this is 42 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: going to be five years from now the you know, 43 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: the best player, because it would all be first round 44 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: picks for the most part, all the talent, the upside, 45 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: the ceiling. I approach this as these guys are going 46 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: to have an impact right away. I'm expecting big things 47 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: from these five rookies right out to shoot. So forget 48 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 2: about what the draft status was, what round they went. 49 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: I'm looking at their talent, how they're ready to get 50 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: on the field make an impact right away. So I'll 51 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: give you one to start off here, and it's a 52 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 2: spicy one here. I'm going to start out NFC West. 53 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to go to the Seattle Seahawks' fifth round pick, 54 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: someone who I was much higher on during the draft process. 55 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: He went much later than he should. And that is 56 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: Tory Horton, a wide receiver from Colorado State, who, if 57 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: you go back to twenty three, would have been a 58 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: top fifty pick. If you're sorry, go back to two. 59 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: What year are we in twenty four? So it'd been 60 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: the twenty four season, the twenty five two years ago. 61 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: He was awesome. Last year he was injured. He wasn't 62 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: the same guy, didn't have the same performance. But by 63 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: all accounts, he's lighting up training camp with the Seattle Seahawks. 64 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: So I'm excited to see Tory Horton. I think he 65 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: has a media impact with the Sam Donald's quarterback. 66 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: I love that call. And yeah, DJ has been out 67 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: on the road as part of Inside training Camp and 68 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: he's talking to all the gms and say, you know, 69 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: there's always like a little something extra. I'm gonna use 70 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: this information on my show. I'm gonna steal it. And 71 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: it is interesting because they need someone to step up 72 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: there right now. Marcus Valdez Scanting is set up as 73 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: their number three receiver. Jake Bobo, who I've liked as 74 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,559 Speaker 1: as a number before. 75 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: The Jake Bobo Show record. 76 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: By the way, he's I think, I don't know the 77 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: last time we had an episode where Jake Bobo didn't 78 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: get a shout out from Gregor. 79 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: He was apparently like struggling. Now maybe to make this 80 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: roster because they are a little deeper. I guess I'll 81 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: just go with Cooper Cup now then, because we can 82 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: just have the conversation. So we're going back and forth. 83 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: And I looked at it in terms of impact players, 84 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: but it doesn't have to be positive or negative. It 85 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: can be a guy that can just make or break 86 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: their season, and I just think Cooper Cup is so important. 87 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: I've been a little skeptical that he can be close 88 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: to the Cooper Cup of old and I thought it 89 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: was interesting looking at his contract when you really dig down, 90 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: it ultimately is a one year, seventeen million dollar contract 91 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: and they got to make a decision very early next offseason. 92 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: But to me, he's ultimately playing to be part of 93 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: this team, and I just think they need him DJ 94 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: And yeah, it'd be great if Tory Horton steps up 95 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: and is a nice role player, but obviously they're not 96 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: going to expect him to have the volume that a 97 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup has. I think when you look at this 98 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: Jack Jackson Smith and Jig but is a really good player. 99 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: I think in as sending number one. But are there 100 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: two skill sets a little duplicative redundant however you want 101 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: to say, I think they could be. And I do 102 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: worry based off the film from last year, that Cooper Cup, 103 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, isn't maybe ready to be a true number two. 104 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: So he he to me, is going to have a 105 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: huge impact on whether the Seahawks are good or bad 106 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: this year. I'm a little skeptical. I know you don't 107 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: agree with me there. 108 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: Well, I there's trends every year and you're always looking 109 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: to see how the games can change what people are 110 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: doing to to spice it up a little bit. One 111 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 2: thing I've heard talking to some coaches on this little 112 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: tour and talking to guys during training camp is because 113 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: there's more guys like Cooper Cup, there's more guys who 114 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,559 Speaker 2: are a little bit older, don't move quite as well, 115 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: but they're smart, physical, tough guys who have a good 116 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: feel right. And so the whole process was, Okay, well, 117 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: if we've got a slot, we see we've only got 118 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: room for one of those guys. And I've talked to 119 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: some teams that have toyed with the idea of we're 120 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: going to use that bigger, aging receiver, We're going to 121 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: take the tight end off the field. We're going to 122 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: flex him out. He's basically going to be functioning as 123 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: a you know, obviously a much undersized tight end, but 124 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: that gives him an opportunity to them have both that 125 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: slot receiver, impact player and maybe that slower but tough, 126 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: physical veteran that can run those types of routes. So 127 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 2: I'm curious to see, I'm fascinated to see if some 128 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: of these tight ends come off the field a little 129 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: bit for some of these teams, it would make a 130 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense to me, and it's 131 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: kind of a question of why we haven't seen something 132 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: like that in the past. 133 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fascinating. As the league kind of gets into 134 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: these bigger personnel groups, and it's interesting got rid of 135 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: Noah Fan and they have two good young tight ends 136 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: and Elijah Royo and aj Barner, but maybe they get 137 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: rid of Fan because they see him as maybe more duplicative. 138 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: Of those guys are kind of like seam stretchers, like 139 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: vertical tight ends. I'm talking about, like, hey, it's third 140 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: and six and I've got option routes and I've got, 141 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, now I've got Cooper cup snug 142 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 2: on the left side, and now I've got JSN Like 143 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 2: those are gonna be tough covers with a lot of 144 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: you know, with three way gos and a lot of 145 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: field to work with. 146 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: And one one thing he did not slack off on 147 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: when he was with the Rams is that blocking, and 148 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: that's when things nails. Yeah, you just you worry a 149 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: little bit at his age and he's had some of 150 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: the injuries with like you know, throwing those those big blocks, 151 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: but that's what they are paying him for. Give me 152 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: another rookie that you think is going to make a 153 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: big impact. 154 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. First of all, if you've if you're using a 155 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: stopwatch right now, you notice that I got maybe forty 156 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: five seconds talk about mine. We probably spent five minutes 157 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: on Greg. So that's not part for the course. I'm 158 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: gonna go. 159 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's Cooper Cup versus Tory Horton. What am 160 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: I gonna say about Tory Horton. 161 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 2: Maybe we look back at the end of the year 162 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: and we rerack this. Okay, say Tory Horten ended up 163 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: having a pretty darn good year. All Right, I'm gonna go, uh, 164 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 2: San Francisco fourth round pick. See, I'm not just picking 165 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: these top tier guys. Fourth round pick, CJ. West, defensive tackle. 166 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: This is a a front for the Niners. Looks a 167 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: lot different than it did and it's you know, in 168 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: their core group from three or four years ago. They 169 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: have completely revamped. 170 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: At MIKEL. 171 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: Williams, I'm excited about him their first round pick, big 172 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: heavy edge setter. I think he can kick inside and rush. 173 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: He's a really good player. But CJ. West, I'm talking 174 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: about somebody who's strong, who can penetrate, can get up 175 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: the field inside and then someone who's just a little 176 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: more polished. I think he's just more ready to have 177 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: an immediate impact, and I think there's opportunities on this 178 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: defensive line that's completely revamped over the last couple of years. 179 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is really no one locked in there at 180 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: defensive tackle, and so you look at that group and 181 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: there has been good buzz so far out of your 182 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: boys CJ. West at camp. They also drafted out Alfred Collins, 183 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: who's kind of a maybe a different sort of defensive tag. 184 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: You have a plugger, you could explain that to me. 185 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: And then they have these veterans Jordan Elliott, Kevin Gibbons, 186 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: like not not top level starter types. To me, it's 187 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: it's one of the huge questions for the forty nine ers, 188 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: like can this defensive line be great? Looking at three 189 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: rookies potentially starting eventually or certainly playing all. 190 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: The time, I'm just going back through and looking at 191 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: my notes. Not that I wasn't listening to you, but 192 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 2: the uh, you know the fact that he's he's able 193 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: to function in a phone booth, him be kind of 194 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: stout and strong. But then again, it's that quickness trying 195 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: to find interior pass rush, especially when you got you know, 196 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: guys like Kyler Murray running around inside this division. There's 197 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: value there. 198 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: See, we're we're first day of training camp right now. 199 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: We haven't gotten the reps. Like I would have kept 200 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: talking longer if I knew you were looking at your notes, 201 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: but you just scolded me very suddly about talking too much. 202 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: So I tried to be a little quicker. 203 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: I have and I have lunch appointment two hours, so 204 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: it's you can get through your second guy here? What 205 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: do you got? 206 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: So we're gonna stay thematic here because we were thinking 207 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: of similar position groups, and I'm actually gonna go with 208 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: a trade acquisition we never got a chance to talk about. 209 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: Was Bryce Huff. Bryce Huff with the forty nine ers, 210 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: to me, plays a crucial role because I know Michael Williams. 211 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: They're very excited about how tough he is and setting 212 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: the edge. Maybe he didn't have the best one on 213 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: one pass rush moves at least yet on that film. 214 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: That's not why they took him so high. And this 215 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: defensive line just needs some juice. Robert Sala is back there. 216 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: Everyone is excited about Robert sala being there, and he 217 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: brings in a guy in Bryce Huff who played his 218 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: best football under him with the Jets, and I just 219 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: think you need two three edge rushers. And right now 220 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: he's probably number two behind Bosa. He's probably not starting, 221 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: but he's going to have a big role on a 222 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: person att basis. He was fantastic. I'm ready to just 223 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: throw out whatever happened in Philadelphia now that he's back 224 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: with his buddy Robert Sala. 225 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think he's best on a pitch count. 226 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: I think he's best, you know, just rotate him in, 227 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: give him those twenty snaps, let him just be the 228 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: fastball that he is off the edge. They just I 229 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: don't think he was really rugged enough for Phillies liking. 230 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: And it just didn't really They had so many guys 231 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: too that, you know, even like Nolan Smith, who is 232 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: not the biggest guy in the world, was a savage. 233 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: You know, you look at him, how he treated like 234 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: polars and how strong he was. I don't think that 235 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: was really Huff's game. Huffs game is I'm gonna throw 236 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: fastballs as a rusher off the edge, and I think 237 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: by the fact of limiting that a little bit, I 238 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: think that's who he is, and I think there's a 239 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: sweet spot in your sweet spot in some of these guys' 240 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: careers too, Greg, where it's like, I've excelled in this role. Okay, 241 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: let's expand the role didn't work, that's not really who 242 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: I am. Now he should know exactly who he is, 243 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: and Robert solid knows who he is. 244 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: So I like that fit. 245 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: And I like the fact that they gave up something 246 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: for him. It was a mid to late round pick. 247 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: They never did announce what the exact pick was, but 248 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: if I had to guess, it probably a fourth or 249 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. And they're paying him eight million 250 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: dollars a splitting the money with the Eagle. But that's 251 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: not nothing. The fact that people't committed right, they're putting 252 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: resources into him. I think he is going to have 253 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: a sneaky, big impact on that defense, getting a lot better. 254 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm pretty optimistic about the forty nine ers this year. 255 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: All Right, who else he got? 256 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 2: All Right, I've got a couple rams coming up here, 257 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: So I'm going to start first of all, third rounder 258 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: Josiah Stewart at a Michigan again, personal favorite of mine, 259 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: just the way he played in the fall. Now he 260 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: did not test for a long period of time, then 261 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: he tested late, did not test well. I think that's 262 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: one of the reasons why he was available there in 263 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: the third round, undersized someone who I think some people 264 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: dismissed because of that, and I think less Snead has 265 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 2: proven over the years. You look at kyn Williams, who 266 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: didn't run very fast. He's been able to find these 267 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: just really really good football players who maybe don't fit 268 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: the heightweight, speed rex for a lot of these teams 269 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: around the league. But and this is based off this 270 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 2: is and I haven't talked to anybody at RAMS camp. 271 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't seen his name pop up 272 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: as someone who's lighting it up at training camp. I 273 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: just know the type of player that they've hit on, 274 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: and this fits that to a t. So I'm gonna 275 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: go Josiah Stewart finding a role on this very talented, 276 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: fast athletic front seven. 277 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: I love doing this show with you because I'm learning 278 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: and you know, first I get a little Tory Horton pop, 279 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: which I like that things are going well. I haven't heard, 280 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, we were out at RAMS camp. I haven't 281 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: heard anything in particular with Josiah Stewart. He's in a 282 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: perfect situation, maybe a Bryce Huff type of situation where 283 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: he's behind, you know, two good ed rushers and Byron 284 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: Young and Jared Verse. But maybe it's a way that 285 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: they mix him in, like. 286 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: What roll them through? 287 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: Like what style of play? Because I'm not as familiar 288 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: with him, like it what kind of player is Josiah Stewart. 289 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: So I'll give you. I'll just pull up my notes 290 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 2: so you can. I don't want to speak out of 291 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: school here, so let's just go right to where I 292 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: had him here, Josiah Stuart. All right, So he's six one, 293 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 2: two hundred and forty nine pounds, undersized, bolt of lightning plays. 294 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: Can I say balls for the wall? I think I 295 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: can on forties and free agents. It's a podcasts got 296 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,599 Speaker 2: a little Yeah, it's a podcast shake bowlpower, got a 297 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: dip rip. He plays much bigger than his size. He 298 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: attacks block blocks, and then I put in all caps energy, 299 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: Greg like, he plays with passion and energy. Think about Obviously, 300 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: Jared Versus on another level is a talent, but one 301 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: of the I think one of the first few words 302 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: we would use to describe Jared Verse after we called 303 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: him a bad man and explosive would be the energy 304 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: part of it, and this guy brings that same type 305 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 2: of energy. I just think you'll roll him through. He'll 306 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: fit right in. 307 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: It might almost be too much energy, I mean that 308 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: that defense they're they're wild. I don't know. Can you 309 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: have too much energy? Maybe at like a training camp 310 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: practice where guys are flying around and possibly heard. 311 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 2: By the way, quick question for you. Yeah, just it 312 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: does surprise me you're not this familiar with Josiah Stewart's game, 313 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: considering you spent a good three months on forties and 314 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: free agents just evistrating his teammate Mason Graham. So I 315 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: don't know how you didn't notice him. 316 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: But you know, I was scouting the players that you 317 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: had ranked too high. If you had had Stuart like 318 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: a little bit higher. 319 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 3: It was in my top fifty at one point. 320 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good call. You did a good job 321 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: with some of your guys. I'm already seen. But I 322 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: know what you often say in the preseason. Don't start 323 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: it's a liar. 324 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 2: It's a liar. 325 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: Don't start patting your back yet. Here's what I do. 326 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: I don't need to see anything in the preseason. Anything 327 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: in practice from Davante Adams. To me, this is the 328 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: number one if we were ranking it, we're just going 329 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: back and forth. It's not a ranking. But to me, 330 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: the biggest addition in the offseason this entire division, forget 331 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: even Sam Darnold, it is Davante Adams. And I think 332 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: on film the last couple of years that he has 333 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: shown that he is still a top fifteen wide receiver. 334 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: I think people just weren't watching the Jets. They weren't 335 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: watching that They all twenty. 336 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: It's such a random number, by the way, Why you 337 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: set it up for such a power statement like he 338 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: is still and I'm like, he's going to say a 339 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: top three receiver, maybe maybe he's gonna go top five. 340 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: He is still a top fifteen. 341 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: They just didn't have the punch that the way you 342 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: set that up, in the way you delivered it didn't match. 343 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: It's good coaching by you, it's it's just I don't 344 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: like to be that guy because when you actually make 345 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: the is like, is he better than Nico Collins, Is 346 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: he better than Brian Thomas. He's in the To me, 347 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: he's in that category of guys question after the very top. 348 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: So but I could go ten. I could go ten. 349 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: If that makes you feel. 350 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: Your parents you come home from school, Gregory, how'd you 351 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: do on the test? 352 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: Oh? 353 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: Mom, it was amazing. I knew I just I crushed it. 354 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: I felt so confident I already got my grade back. 355 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: It was what would you get? Greg He did one 356 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety eight. I got eighty four. Like that 357 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: was not It just doesn't marry the hype that was 358 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: given at the front. 359 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: That's first of all three g's and greg sixty percent g. 360 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: That just closed the name right there. There's no Gregory second. 361 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: It is a good life lesson. Set expectations very low 362 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: and then and then go over under to promise over delivered. 363 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: Greg. 364 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: I want to put the expectations for Adams very high. 365 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: So I was saying on film it looks great, and 366 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: then yeah, he's a. 367 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: Perfect fit for that system. 368 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, everything you hear from the rams 369 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: so far. When we were out there, like he was 370 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: taking a veteran rest day, so you know, I didn't 371 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: get to see him playing, but you see him coaching 372 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: up like immediately the Jordan Winnington's and the younger players 373 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: on the roster. I saw a couple of them you know, 374 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: they were walking right by our studio, like in a 375 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: deep conversation about the different types of routes that weren't 376 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: working that day for some of the young receivers. And 377 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: so I think he brings all the knowledge in the world. 378 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: But he also, to me, is a canvas for Sean 379 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: McVay and Mike Lafleur, who we had Micha Lafluer on 380 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: NFL daily to create really difficult matchups with him and Pukinakud, 381 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: those two guys together, if it's one A, one B, 382 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: I think they compliment each other so well. And I 383 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: really am looking forward to how the Rams change their 384 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: offense up a little bit each and every season to 385 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: stay ahead and what they're going to do to stay 386 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: ahead of defense is what do you think it'll look 387 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: like with Adams and Puka together. 388 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna work. And I think you've got 389 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: interchangeable guys. I think the fact that I think they're 390 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: both capable of going outside and went and out there 391 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 2: playing inside, I don't. My question is I don't. I 392 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: think they're gonna win a lot at the intermediate and 393 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: uh and underneath level. I don't know how much vertically 394 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 2: on top of guys they're going to get unless they're 395 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: just running crossers and picking guys off and all that 396 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. So I'm who's going to fill that 397 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 2: role for this team right now? 398 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: It's a ten million dollar man to two out well two. 399 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if they ran a play the practice 400 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: I was there where two two out well was not 401 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: in motion. Whether whether it works or not, I think 402 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: this group is determined to make that signing, which which 403 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: some people made fun of a little bit, kind of 404 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: set the market for a number three four receiver. I 405 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: think they're disordered. 406 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: Because I haven't been out there. As I mentioned, It's like, 407 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: does he have like cookies or like, what's his apology 408 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: to Jimmy Goppolo in his locker? Did he put anything 409 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: in there, like hey, sorry about that, dude, Like we're 410 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: good now. 411 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: They're saying all the right things. But I had to 412 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: admit watching it and seeing Puka Nakua just absolutely dust 413 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: some of these rams cornerbacks and then stop so quickly 414 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: and just wide open, no one's even near him. And 415 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: then Jimmy throws him the ball and it's like an intermediate, 416 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: like twenty yard throw, and he's just waiting. He's just 417 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: waiting for that ball to get there, and then the 418 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: defenders along are coming in and I was thinking about 419 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: some of those clips from the Devanta Adams Jimmy Garoppolo era. 420 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 3: Have we talked. 421 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: I know this is I don't want to get too 422 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 2: off topic, but we talked about my uh, the one 423 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: stat that I'm going to question now forever because I 424 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 2: just had an epiphany on it at some point in time, 425 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 2: which was because I was doing a college quarterback. I 426 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 2: remember who it was, but it was I questioned his 427 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 2: arm strength, but his tight window throw percentage was excellent, 428 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 2: and it finally hit me Greg on that particular stat. 429 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: And you talk to men about this too, because I 430 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: think she'd get it. On this discussion, I think we 431 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: need to distinguished tight window throws. I think there are 432 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: when the ball is released what the coverage is, and 433 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: I think when the ball is caught where the coverage is. 434 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 2: Because one of them tight window throws is arm arrogance 435 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: and arm talent. The other one is a result of 436 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: a lack of arm strength, which has allowed defenders to 437 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: converge to make an unnecessary tight one throw. So that's 438 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 2: my soapbox. I'll get off of it. 439 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: I love that, and I think the two Rams quarterbacks, 440 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: and I am a little worried about Matthew Stafford still 441 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: out with a back injury. They would be perfect examples 442 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: of the two different types of ways you can win 443 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: against tight window throws, Jimmy Garoppolo and Matthew Stafford. I 444 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: thought you were gonna say yards per attempt, which is 445 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: a pretty basic stat DJ. Yeah, because Jimmy Garoppolo still 446 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: ranks first among all active players in yards per attempt 447 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: and first in the history of the NFL post merger. 448 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: Now you want to put them behind Otto Graham and 449 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: Sid Luckman, you can, But Jimmy Garoppolo, in a very basic, 450 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: like popular stat is the greatest of all time in 451 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: yards per attempt. 452 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Kyle Shanahan. Hey, they unleashed on the 453 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 2: league before they knew, you know, before nine of his 454 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: assistant coaches were coaching around the National Football League and 455 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: people got a little more familiar with what they were doing. 456 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: Well, it's absolutely insane. Let's put a pin in that. 457 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: Let's take one quick break and we will be back 458 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: to wrap up that. The five biggest impact rookies and 459 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: additions in the NFC West this offseason. All right, we 460 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: are back on the forties and free agents. We're going 461 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: to be here all August twice a week previewing the season, 462 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: going through each division. We're starting with the NFC West. 463 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: Biggest impact players that are gonna be rookies and free 464 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: agents or trade acquisitions. Give me another rookie DJ. 465 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: All right, so this one again, I'm going to go 466 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: back to the rams. And this is as I've mentioned, 467 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: I've not been out to training camp. I have not heard, 468 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: I've not talked to anybody that's provided the buzz here. 469 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: This is my working theory because it's been pre accurate 470 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 2: over the years in the run up to the draft. 471 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you the name of Sharks Hunter, the 472 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 2: running back. So the theory is this when I talked 473 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: to and I talked almost every single GM around the 474 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: league as we get closer to the draft, and there 475 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: they will go over a lot of players, mention a 476 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: lot of names. Sometimes they mentioned a player they might draft, 477 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: but they don't go on an effusive because they are 478 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 2: trying to keep their cards close. On occasion, there's some 479 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: players that they're not talking about first round players, but 480 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: mid round players that they love so much that they 481 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: can't help but even talk about them, and then they 482 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 2: end up coming up and then they end up taking 483 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: that player, and the odds are there's such a love 484 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: there from the team side, and they believe how well 485 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 2: that player matches and fits what they do that if 486 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 2: they do get married on a roster, it ends up 487 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: working out pretty well. And talking to Less in the 488 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: run up to the draft, and I thought, maybe it's 489 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 2: because he's an Auburn guy, and Less is an Auburn guy, 490 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: but he talked a lot about jar Quest Hunter and 491 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 2: how excited he was about him, and how hard he ran, 492 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 2: how physical he was. So that's stuck in the back 493 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: of my mind to the point when he gets picked 494 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 2: in the fourth round, Like, I know you've got Kien Williams, 495 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: but I think this Hunter, and I think they really 496 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 2: really like him. I think they have a vision for him, 497 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 2: and I'm excited to see what he does. 498 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: You're getting a little bit of Blake Korum pop in camp. 499 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: He's a you know, the third round pick who kind 500 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: of had a slow start to his rookie year. That 501 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: happens a lot where that that the second year guys 502 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: naturally get a lot of kind of features written about 503 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: them that they've they figured some things out. Is Hunter 504 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: a big play type of guy? Because that is something 505 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: where it was really noticeable. They were top at six 506 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: or seven. 507 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: No other yards were. 508 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: Over expected for Karen Williams last year. No zero. Yeah, 509 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: double check me on that pull. You can pull that 510 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 2: up and you can correct it if I'm wrong. But 511 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 2: I believe in the draft prep last year that there 512 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 2: was there was literally nothing that wasn't there that he 513 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 2: was that he was providing. 514 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: Which which is something maybe they're going to bring up 515 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: in contract negotiations. Supposedly they've made some progress. I think 516 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: that deal is actually going to get done, but it 517 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: might be because Kyrien Williams is not looking to totally 518 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: break the bank. Yeah. They're very high DJ in success rate, 519 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: like top six or seven, which means, you know, did 520 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: you get four yards on first down? But bottom five 521 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: in explosive play rate, like just they're just not hitting 522 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: anything down the field. Do you think Hunter can be 523 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: that sort of guy? Four four? 524 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: Hunter ran four to four to four. He's got speed, 525 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: he's downhill, he can extend and pluck in the past 526 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 2: game as well, only fumbled the ball one time. I 527 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: thought he had a good cutback vision, kind of a 528 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: decisive runner. But yeah, four to four speed, like legit speed. 529 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: And when you look at their offensive line and how 530 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 2: they've kind of mulled people as they've gotten bigger and 531 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: embraced a different style of run, being more gap scheme 532 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: than they were traditionally, they left some yards out there, man, 533 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 2: And I think you throw a dynamic player in that mix. 534 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: Some of those eight ten twelves, fifteens turned into thirties, forties, fifties. 535 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be huge for them. That to me 536 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: is typical of this roster. I think they, with the 537 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: exception of the Cowboys, are maybe the biggest boomer bus 538 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: team in the NFL. Because Stafford's back thing worries me 539 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: a little bit at his age, I think it should Alerc, 540 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, their two tackles, Alerc Jackson has his blood 541 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: clot issue that he's working back from, and Robin having 542 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: signs is up there in years like that's kind of 543 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: a boomer bus position. But man, if everything goes well, 544 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 1: they have the talent. Certainly on offense they're mauling. Can 545 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,239 Speaker 1: Steve aviol I get back to kind of where he 546 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: was as a as a rookie, like, they have the 547 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: talent to be one of the best teams in the 548 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 1: league to make the Super Bowl, and yet I think 549 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: there are some routes there it could go wrong. 550 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, because I was trying to look 551 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 2: this up while you were talking. Before I could look 552 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: it up, producer Drew, you know there's a researcher background there, right, Yeah, 553 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 2: you can take you can take Drew out of the research, 554 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: but you can't take the research. I don't know somebody. 555 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: So only other one thousand yard rusher without any yards 556 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 2: over expected last year, Najie Harris. So and if we've 557 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: talked about nase the the talking point with Naji has been, look, 558 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: you need three yards, he'll get your three yards. You 559 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: need six yards, he'll get your three yards. Like that's 560 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: just kind of been the talking point. And we don't 561 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: think about that with Kyle Williams with that's what the 562 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: that's what the Roopers say. 563 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: I will not stand for this Kyrine Williams slander. But 564 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: there there is something you know, Yeah, if he when 565 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: he gets twelve, it's not gonna be forty. That's yeah, 566 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: that's kind of the issue with Kyri Williams. So for 567 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: who you got my pick, Like, if you're just going 568 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: by the money, Josh Sweat would be the logical defensive player. 569 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: And actually, if you're just going by the money, the 570 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: next most logical two defensive players for the Cardinals would 571 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: be Dalvin Tomlinson and Baron Browning, who they brought back. 572 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: And yet year after year a team signs Kalaeis Campbell 573 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: and by the end of the year, you think, man, 574 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: this guy actually is the best defensive lineman the best 575 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: team or the second best defensive lineman on this team 576 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: and is building up a Hall of Fame case and 577 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: is a Walter Payton Man of the Year type of 578 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: guy and changes the locker room and and so ultimately, 579 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: when we're talking impact, I decided to go Kalais Cambell. 580 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: Now he's representing the Cardinals defense that I think is 581 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: a lot more exciting. I mentioned the additions that they 582 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: made up front. I think they're more talented. They've been 583 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: really creative. But don't like get a tow twisted on 584 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: the field. Kalais Kimball was awesome for the Dolphins last year. 585 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: If you go back and watch that Dolphins like he 586 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: is still wrecking shop, pushing the pocket, great in run defense. 587 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: Obviously more of an, you know, an interior player, but 588 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: when it's three down linemen, he's on the outside like 589 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: he can do everything and he's just the man. So 590 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm not going to doubt Kalais Campbell being the biggest 591 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: impact player. And I think that was an under the 592 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: radar signing I really love from the Cardinals. 593 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. I know in baseball they say speed never goes 594 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: in a slump, and in football you can say size 595 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: and never really goes into Like he's gonna be all 596 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 2: of six foot eight, three hundred plus pounds each and 597 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: every time he steps out onto the field, and he's 598 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: going to make an impact. And he just he's been 599 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 2: such a consistent player throughout his career. He's not the 600 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 2: dominant guy that he was, but he's still a consistent player. 601 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 2: You got to worry about him. So I'm gonna stay 602 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: with the Cardinals for my last one. I'm gonna go 603 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: Will Johnson, Who's someone that would have gone in the 604 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 2: you know, in the first round if he was healthy 605 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: and had a healthy process, you know, some issues on physicals. 606 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: It showed up wasn't able to work out at all, 607 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: there's some speed questions there. You know, some tackling wasn't 608 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 2: great his last year at Michigan, But do you go 609 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: back the year before. All he did was make a 610 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: zillion plays on the ball, super instinctive. I think the 611 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: top down corner used that size and length. He can 612 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 2: clog lanes, he can see routes, he'll jump throw, as 613 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 2: he did it last year against sc with a pick six. 614 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: I think in this defense, if they can get all 615 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: this talent in the front seven to get some pass rush, 616 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: I think you look up at the end of the 617 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: year and Will Johnson's had four or five picks. 618 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: Their secondary is really intriguing to me. Now, they lost 619 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: a couple players which you hate to do in the 620 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: offseason for the season that were projected to play a 621 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: lot for them, Starling Thomas who's a veteran, and Sean 622 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 1: Murphy bunting, and yet the guys that they still have 623 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: there are extremely talented. Will Johnson, like you mentioned how 624 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: high level of a prospect he was. Garrett Williams has 625 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: been one of the best young nickelbacks in the league 626 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: that people don't know about. And Max Melton played really 627 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: well for a second round pick. There and then they're 628 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: great at safety of course with Buddha Baker Jalen Thompson. 629 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: So it's a young, fast, like dynamic group. I know 630 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: we're not predicting like who wins this division at least 631 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm right now. Maybe later in the month we'll see 632 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: if we could make you. But like, where do you 633 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: see the Cardinals in general? Because I'm really intrigued by 634 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: this team. 635 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 2: So I look at teams this type of year and 636 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 2: I kind of go, Okay, there's the nones at the 637 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: tops and the bottoms right, Like, I feel pretty good 638 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: these teams are going to be top you know, five 639 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: teams in their conference. I feel the bottom five teams 640 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: the Cardinals are in that swing zone where if I 641 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: told you at the end of the year the Cardinals 642 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: won eleven games, I wouldn't be shocked. I think if 643 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: you told you that they won you know, six or 644 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 2: seven games, I think there's more variance with them. I 645 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: think in golf they refer to it as dispersion, right 646 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: shot dispersion. I feel like with the Cardinals that you 647 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: could go off the right side or the left side 648 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 2: of the farewell. You don't know where that's going. 649 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: I feel that I was saying. I think the Rams 650 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: are maybe an extreme example that the downside for them 651 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: is similarly bad, but the upside is playing in the 652 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: super Bowl, which would be great for them in their 653 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: in their rival stadium up in Santa Clair. All right, 654 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 1: let's wrap it up with I'm going DeMarcus Lawrence. Now 655 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: I could go Sam Darnold. I'm thinking about this podcast 656 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: for people who are are coming back to the NFL. 657 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: It's August, trying to catch up, and I feel like 658 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: the DeMarcus Lawrence signing has been pretty under the radar, 659 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: and he's a great player, similar to Cooper Cup. It's 660 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a one year deal that if 661 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: he plays well, will turn into a three year type 662 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: of deal. And I know he was fighting through the 663 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: injury last year, but everyone there in camp is already 664 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: saying this is the best practice player we've ever had. 665 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: Like Mike McDonald cannot stop talking about DeMarcus Lawrence, that 666 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: he is literally changing their culture in terms of his 667 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: attention to detail, his energy, everything you ever heard about him. 668 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: He kind of reminds me of of a Kaleis Campbell 669 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: type that, like, if DeMarcus Lawrence is on the field 670 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: in an NFL game. He to me is an impact player. 671 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: I think one of the most underrated players of his generation. 672 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: And it's one of those rare deals in free agency 673 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: that might be a good value. Like these these aging 674 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: guys who have one or two good years and you 675 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: add him to a group DJ that that's pretty deep. 676 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they have a lot of different ways they 677 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: can attack you. I think he's a nice final piece 678 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: to Marcus Lawrence to what to me, it could be 679 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: a top five defense. 680 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, And talking to some guys up there too. In 681 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: the draft, a lot of the edge rushers, there was 682 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: a lot of guys that had some physical questions that 683 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: showed up in terms of the physicals and not passing 684 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: and concerns longevity. Then you had some guys with you know, 685 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 2: other issues may be off the field or what have you. 686 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: There's weren't as many clean guys. There's a lot of 687 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 2: guys very deep class, but there was enough, you know, 688 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: cause or concern that I think that's when they looked 689 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: at it and said, look, we know exactly what we're 690 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: getting here in tank Lawrence like he we know who 691 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: he is and what he is, and there's some certainty 692 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: that they bought there, so I thought that that made sense. 693 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: They know exactly who he is and what he is, 694 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: and I do find it on brand that even when 695 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: you don't even have him as one of the five 696 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: impact guys kind of took a Sam Donald shot in there, 697 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 2: like it was just kind of a kind of a 698 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: way for you to get your dig in there. Like 699 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: I could have gone with him, but I don't want 700 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: to do that. 701 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: Well, it's like everyone's heard enough about Donald. We already 702 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: talked about Cup in the pass again, we can't go 703 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: to Seahawks heavy, but yeah, Tank Lawrence. 704 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: Well favorites. You cannot go to Seahawks Heavy, which is 705 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: gonna get me to the player I'm keeping an eye 706 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: on Jalen Milroe. Okay, it's my player that I'm keeping 707 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: an eye on just because I look. 708 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: Are we going to see him at all? 709 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: Don't know is he gonna start a game or two 710 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: to Sam get hurt? Does he get some action there? 711 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 2: Are they going to have him in some I feel 712 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: like every year we have a quarterback, we talk about 713 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: that's gonna be the short yardage red zone. We're gonna pop. 714 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: It never happens. Ever, it's always talked about it never 715 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: is execu. 716 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: What about Lamar's rookie year before he actually was starting. 717 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: That's that it did happen there a little bit. 718 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: Remember how much he was even reallysed like. 719 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: Five plays a game, but he would like get a 720 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: first down run or whatever for eight yards. But you're right, 721 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't a till. 722 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: It doesn't happen very often, and every I can literally 723 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: every single year, there's someone who's talked about like this, Yeah, 724 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: we'll see. That's why. To me, it was presented to 725 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 2: me as the five guys to impact, and then it 726 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: was who you're keeping an eye on. So keeping an 727 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: eye on means not going to start, not going to 728 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: be in the mix, but I'm keeping an eye to 729 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: see if in how they use. 730 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: Jalen Millier just a wild card. I don't know what 731 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: it says about me. But if you tell me that, 732 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: give me a list of five, then I just want 733 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: to do six. I don't know why. So my wildcard 734 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: is also a quarterback who won't be starting. It's not 735 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: Jacobe Brissett, who is the new backup in Arizona. 736 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 2: Good back, not know that good knowledge. 737 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: It's Mac Jones. We're here in the good Camp re reports, 738 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: Kyle Sanahan finally got his guy Mac Jones, five years 739 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: after they took Trey Lance over him. The forty nine 740 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: Ers reporters are like, hey, Mac Jones looks pretty good. 741 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I hope he doesn't get into the 742 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: lineup because that would mean black Purty is hurt. There's 743 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: no competition. I think Brock Purty has turned into a 744 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: legit top ten quarterback in the league. But I just 745 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised DJ. If everyone's tuning into some random 746 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: Thursday night football in November, Rock Perty's out one or 747 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: two weeks and all of America is like, what Mac 748 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: Jones is on the forty nine and he's lighting them up. 749 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: He's looking good again. Mac Jones in the right system 750 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: that made Jimmy Garoppolo the all time leader in yards 751 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: per attempt. 752 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun. That's a good wildcard. You'd finished strong. 753 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: I didn't think it was your best show, but I 754 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: thought you finished with some gusto. 755 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: You don't seem like you're that convinced. I'll try to 756 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: make it up to you, DJ. Later this week, we 757 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: are doing the AFC West five Biggest Impact Players from 758 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: the draft and from free agency. That's going to be fun. 759 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: We're back, DJ, you. 760 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: Are free agents, looked, I didn't. I mean the people 761 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: wanted it, man. But again to reiterate what you said 762 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: at the top, subscribe to to this feed. 763 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: Yes, so we don't want to keep back in a 764 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: cross post. We got to convince him that we don't 765 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: need to do that anymore. Forties and free agents. We 766 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: will be back later this week.