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Speaker 1: Ron and Nan, I want to talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: be repaired, the car Doctor. If you're twenty years old

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian the

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the world

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Speaker 1: and what they until more information about this radio show.

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Speaker 1: It's all about information, right is Car Doctor Show dot

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Speaker 1: T shirt, there's a link there for that too. You

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Speaker 1: there as well. I think sometimes auto repair is a

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Speaker 1: very underappreciated industry. And I think sometimes that comes about

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Speaker 1: This customer gets it. Jeanes A. Geans a regular customer.

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Speaker 1: He's he's a he's a he's a good human being,

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Speaker 1: all this to Gene by the way, and he really

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it a lot. I am ronon ading in the

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor. If you're new to this radio show, I

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Speaker 1: Fast Harry and have him hook you up and put

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Speaker 1: talk to Tim Flint, Michigan G twenty Van Tim. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor. Sir, how can I help? Hello,

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Speaker 1: Ron Fan, Yes, sir, what can I do for you? Well,

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Speaker 1: I've picked up is a ninety six conversion van, and

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Speaker 1: the reason I'm messing with it is this thing is

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Speaker 1: How can I help? Hi? Ron Um? I don't know

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Speaker 1: seventeen okay, So and maybe maybe it's not worth worth it,

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00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: but I just think it would find fact a more comfortable.

430
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: I think it would too, because what you're gonna do

431
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: is you're gonna put You're gonna put a smaller wheel,

432
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: but a bigger tire overall overall, so you have more

433
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: of a side wall. And you know what, what we've

434
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 1: sort of forgotten is the side wall is also part

435
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: of the suspension in terms of you know, load and

436
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: and and shock to the system. Yeah, you know, that's

437
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: it's It really amazes me. I mean, at the rate

438
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: we're going, we're gonna be writing on tires that have

439
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: a half inch side high side wall, uh in a

440
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: couple of years, and everybody's gonna be going to the

441
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: chiropractor with back of neck problems. My wife has a beatle,

442
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: and has and and and and whey do you try

443
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 1: and price out some of these rims. You know, my

444
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: my or recently purchased a Toyota and she took out

445
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: wheel insurance and basically, and I've seen this before, but

446
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: now it's they're selling wheel insurance room and wheel entire

447
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: insurance that if anything happens to that room entire under

448
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: a certain mile, as they replace it. I think the

449
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: insurance is like five bucks, but what one wheel is four?

450
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: And the way the potholes are built, it seems lately

451
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: that uh, you know, the smallest pothole can gobble up

452
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: a rim. Listen, I'm all for what you're doing. I

453
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: think I think you're onto something. I really do. I

454
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: think I think it's just gonna be a matter of

455
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: trial and error unless you can go backwards. What I

456
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: would look at is I would I would start to

457
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: look up. You know, do this. Let's try it like this.

458
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: Get out to O'Reilly otto dot com. Get out to

459
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: their website, plugging a Toyota camera, your model s a

460
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: look up, look up, break caliper and break rotor write

461
00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: the part number down. Then go to a or and

462
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: write the part number down. If they're the same, then

463
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: you know it's not going to be a break fit issue,

464
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 1: or it's not likely that it would be a break

465
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: fit issue, all right. And then what I would do

466
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: is get out to General Tire. Go out to General

467
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: Tire dot com and start to look at the different

468
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: size tires that they have with, you know, a seventeen

469
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: inch versus a sixteen inch, and you can start to

470
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: play with profile. And if I'm not mistaken, at General

471
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: Tire dot Com, they'll have tire diameter, so they'll tell

472
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: you that, you know, this model Ultimax RT is this

473
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: size and so on, and you can play with sidewall

474
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: and profile all right, and and make their adjustments that way.

475
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: But believe me, you're you're onto something there. Lake. I

476
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: wouldn't shy away from this sure real quick too. For

477
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: Nickel today, I think I think I heard you say

478
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: at one time that you put different octane gas from

479
00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: time to time. Yes, yes, I'll I'll run, you know,

480
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: depending upon what I'm running. Uh, you know, like the

481
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: shop truck, the little ranger of the poor thing takes

482
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 1: abuse and it just keeps on tick. And now it's

483
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: just a matter of pride. I keep thinking I'm gonna

484
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: have I think I'm gonna have to put some money

485
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: into it so it doesn't look like I'm driving a

486
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: wreck I had. You know, somebody come up to me

487
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: the other day and say, you poor man, you can't

488
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: afford anything better than this old truck. And I went, well,

489
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, I had just been cleaning something. I got

490
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: out of it. I looked I kind of looked well like,

491
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: for lack of a better way to say, I sort

492
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: of looked homeless in this beat up old truck. And

493
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: somebody felt sorry for me. They almost gave me a nickel. Um,

494
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: but you know, I'll I'm try I'll put regular in

495
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: on a regular basis now and maybe every third fourth thankful,

496
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 1: I'll put us you know, high test in it, just

497
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: because of the detergent additives and and um, you know

498
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: what they'll do in terms of cleanliness. Uh, you know

499
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting in the next year. I keep

500
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: reading the reports that you know, E p A is

501
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be legislating uh, detergent additives out of high

502
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: test gastles, and I'm sure you've seen the same. It

503
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: sounds like, and you know, it makes me feel that

504
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: fuel system cleaners are going to take a very big

505
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: presence in automotive maintenance. Yeah, you've turned me onto that

506
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: product that I just started. Yeah. Um, and I think

507
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: that's got I think they've got I think, you know what,

508
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: if they're if they're a company that has stock in

509
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: the marketplace, I'd probably take a look at Berryman because

510
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: I think they've got no place to go but up. Um.

511
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: But anyway, Lake, I enjoyed the conversation. Listen, You're very welcome.

512
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: You take good care down there, Louisiana Way eight five

513
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: six zero zero zero. I'm running anting of the car Doctor.

514
00:27:34,920 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. My buddy Blake down round.

515
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: Welcome back running the end card doctor rate five five

516
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: five s zero nine nine zero zero. Thanks for being

517
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Speaker 1: with us today. Let's get over and talk to David

518
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: in Iowa. Twelve Chevy Suburban David, Welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir,

519
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: How can I help Hi? N good to talk to you.

520
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: The reason I've called is UH. I bought a two

521
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: thousand twelve Chevy Suburban LTZ little over a month ago.

522
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: UH used vehicle ninety five thousand miles UM. We had

523
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: it for about a week took it on vacation to Colorado.

524
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: We were to stop flight check engine light came on.

525
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: I pulled off into a parking lot, shut the shot

526
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: the vehicle off, let it reset, started back up. The

527
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: check engine light stayed on, but we're able to drive

528
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: on Asks Park where we're traveling to. Well over the

529
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: next two weeks. I took it to a mechanic and

530
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: ask us Park who felt like it was a fuel

531
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: pump issue as my fuel pressure was just up the

532
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: minimum allowed pressure when he checked it, but he was

533
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: unable to fix it. Said we should be safe to

534
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: drive it home. We live about five miles from us

535
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: AS Park. We drove it back home. I took it

536
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: to a local mechanic. They could not reproduce the problem.

537
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: So about three days later I took it back because

538
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: the check engine light came on. We also had it

539
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: went into reduced engine mode and shut off the build

540
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 1: track and traction control. Well. I took an mechanic. They

541
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: it was throwing a accelerator pedal position sensor and they

542
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: felt like this that was a problem, so they changed

543
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: out the censor. They drove it about twelve miles that

544
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: they thought it was fixed. Everything was good. I drove

545
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: it back home about ten miles from where the mechanic

546
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: shop was at. Let it set for about two hours,

547
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 1: got back in it, turned the key to start, it

548
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: went back into engine, reduced power mode, check engine that

549
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: was back on, same thing. Very innerman, very s at it. So,

550
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: what what fault codes are this? Uh? David, not to

551
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: interrupt you. What what fault code is this? D nl? Uh?

552
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 1: You know what? I don't have it in front of me.

553
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: I think it was, and so um I called the dealer.

554
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: I took him back to the dealer where we bought

555
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: it from. They swore to God that it was the

556
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: power control module. So we left it there. They changed

557
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: the power control module. I said, I want you to

558
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: keep this for a week because it's it's very spread it.

559
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: They kept it for a week and I got a

560
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: call from him actually a few days ago, set him

561
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: with six They've driven it over a hundred miles. They

562
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: hadn't had the the problem reproduced. I went to get it.

563
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: They turned the key to bring it out to me.

564
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: It went back into reduced engine power mode, the same

565
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: things that was doing. So now it's in the GM

566
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: dealership now where there's a I assume a master GM

567
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: tech looking at it, and I'm at a loss of

568
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: where to go. Okay, so here, let's let's let me

569
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: let me tell you what I don't think it is,

570
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: but I just want to bring it, put it on

571
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: the table. They came out with a recent bulletin internal

572
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: service memo, however you want to call it, back in

573
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: March of this year, that talked about low power, reduced

574
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: power UM issues sort of what you're describing. I don't

575
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: think this is your problem. I just don't want to

576
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: overlook it. And it's UM. It's it's it's technical bulletin

577
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: or or internal memo p I T fifty two oh

578
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: six d S and David. That's easy for you to remember, right,

579
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: so you know you may want to read that. It

580
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: talks about the brake, pedal position, sensor assembly and some

581
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: of the issues and some of the things that can

582
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: cause I don't think that's what's going on here, but

583
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: I just want to mention it that being set all

584
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: right is an issue with this is drive by wire.

585
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: There's a throttle, the assembly out on the engine, there's

586
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: a pedal assembly inside the car, all right, when you

587
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: step on the gas pedal or the accelerator pedal to

588
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: be you know, terminally correct or terminal or term correct.

589
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: If you go halfway down and it's producing a zero

590
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: to five old signal and now it's two and a

591
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: half vaults because you're in mid midstride, it's looking at

592
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: two centers on that pedal assembly to say, hey, did

593
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: he actually go halfway? Yes? He did. Um, there's two

594
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: centers on that assembly. There's two centers on the throttle

595
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: body out at the engine, so they correlate. So it's

596
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: it's looking to see, um and I'm sorry, there's there's

597
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: there's one on this and one on that end. They're

598
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: looking to see, is everybody happy if this guy goes

599
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: goes down two and a half vaults? Does this guy

600
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: go up two and a half volts? Is there a correlation?

601
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: When thirty five sets, it says somebody's lying, all right,

602
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: it says somebody one guy says two and a half

603
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: volts have throttle and the other guy went one vault.

604
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: Somebody's lying. Somebody's not telling the truth. And they've got

605
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: all sorts of fold codes that will tell them a

606
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: PP throttle body, PCM, et cetera. There's there's there's more

607
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: than a half a dozen ways to look at this,

608
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: because obviously UM problems with acceleration is sort of an issue,

609
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of safety redundancy built into this.

610
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: That being said, all right, the simplest way to diagnosis

611
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: what I found is hook up a scan tool, bring

612
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: up the accelerator pedal position sensors, the throttle position sensors

613
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: in the throttle body, and and gently tap the throttle

614
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: body in the area of the sensors. Okay, you're looking

615
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: for a disagree agree signal to change on the scan

616
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: tool when you're not driving the car. If you see

617
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: that it's a throttle body. If you're gonna play law percentages,

618
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: what the heck they've changed the PCM, They've changed the

619
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: app down at your foot. Put a throttle body in

620
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: the car of the time. That's the issue. The only

621
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: thing left is the wiring harness, which is you're into

622
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: pens and connectors, and I have used a contact enhancer

623
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 1: on the connector terminals, especially out at the throttle body.

624
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 1: The heating, the vibration of the engine tends to beat

625
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: them up. I'm sure the GM tack will fix it.

626
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's seen this before. David. If you need me,

627
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: give me a shout. You know where to find me.

628
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: And even Ron at Car Doctor show dot com works

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00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: during the week eight zero zero The Car Doctor is

630
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: coming back right after this nothing can h shot with.

631
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: Welcome back the Car Doctor. Let's go over and talk

632
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: to Arry and Eureka, California. Larry, Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir.

633
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: What's going on? Got a two thousand and two miles

634
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: to six twenty six two point five leader, it's got

635
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: ninety two thousand, eight hundred miles on it. Um males

636
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: to recommends a timing belt change at a hundred and

637
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: six thousand. But I'm thinking after fourteen years, I might

638
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: start thinking about changing. Yeah, you were, you were due

639
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: after seven You know, Honda, as in their infinite wisdom,

640
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: is a pretty smart car company in some cases. And um,

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Speaker 1: they actually registered timing belts based on time and I

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Speaker 1: believe it's eighty two months. Uh, you know, time is

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Speaker 1: definitely a factor. Listen. If if tires are outdated after

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Speaker 1: eight to ten years, then what's that say about the

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Speaker 1: rubber of a timing belt? Right? So, by by all

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Speaker 1: means you're you're not due, your overdue. You know, we

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Speaker 1: had a We had a customer at the shop recently.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunate Lea. Her timing belt wasn't there by mileage, but

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Speaker 1: in terms of time, two thousand seven Toyota Highlander um

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Speaker 1: after what was it nine years old? Snapped on Route eighty.

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Speaker 1: It's sixty did it in? So believe me, you don't

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Speaker 1: want to have to deal with that mess. You're better

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Speaker 1: off doing the timing belt, water pump, the tensioners, the rollers,

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Speaker 1: you know, and UH deal with all of it. As

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Speaker 1: a matter of fact. Get out to OAP, get out

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Speaker 1: to a Riley Oto Parks dot com or Riley Auto

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Speaker 1: dot com and you'll be able to see what's going

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Speaker 1: on there. I'm an Any of the car doctor mechanics

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Speaker 1: aren't expensive, they're priceless. See it