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Speaker 6: just never thought it was.

444
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: I thought that's what all couples do, is argue about

445
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 2: what we're gonna eat tonight, And shit, I didn't think,

446
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: like it really never passed my mind that it would

447
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: be taking us more than a joke.

448
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 3: But you never know what triggers people.

449
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 2: Like that night, some dude probably just told her like,

450
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 2: but I don't want pizza, you know what I mean?

451
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: She was like, you know what I'm gonna be fire

452
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 2: off this hot fire straight up the rod and let

453
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: him know.

454
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 3: This is a societal endemic problem.

455
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 4: Okay, I told you I file a decide of what

456
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 4: I want to eat, and ignoring me.

457
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 3: The impression of the oppression of women has started ever

458
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 3: since the eighteen hundreds when the first pilgriom asked a

459
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 3: woman what is for dinner tonight?

460
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 4: And she said stu And he said.

461
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 3: Really because I want pizza and that's what I knew.

462
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: But noah, we uh, we appreciate you, right then, do Yeah,

463
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 2: I'll make sure to be more mindful of my stereotypical jokes.

464
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 2: Please let us know what you think about women be

465
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: shopping okay, because I.

466
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 4: Do be shopping.

467
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 2: Women do be shopping, but I don't know, is that

468
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 2: like because the historical lens of consumerism and the oppression

469
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 2: that women have always experienced, and even though they never

470
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 2: really received a full one hundred percent to one hundred

471
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: percent of what a man earns, they have received a

472
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: reputation of being shopping okay, which is to be within

473
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 2: the state of a verb of two shops. So please

474
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 2: break that down. We appreciate that, we do learn us,

475
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: he says, I love Serena. That is all you know

476
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: what ev I can get behind that. Aj D engineer says,

477
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: Ray is easily one of my favorite people. I'm always

478
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 2: happy to hear that she's doing well. For the past

479
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 2: few months, I've been hoping her and Alex were making

480
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 2: appearance on the show, and damn was it good.

481
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: I know it's just a small thing and most white

482
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 3: folks won't.

483
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 2: Understand, but knowing the White House bathroom has a drawer

484
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,959
Speaker 2: containing a wave cap and a bonnet has been one

485
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: of the greatest things about the Obama presidency.

486
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 3: That segment on the show was hilarious. Yeah, we just

487
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: stumbled into that one. Yep.

488
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 2: On the more serious shit, I've made it a point

489
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 2: to not start any post on my Facebook saying how

490
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 2: the officer and dollars shouldn't have been killed. Anybody who

491
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 2: follows me and knows how I feel about black lives,

492
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: black lives matter, and police brutality should already know that.

493
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 3: I hate that those attacks happen.

494
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 2: Fuck anybody still thinking that being against police brutality means

495
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 2: you hate police. You mentioned it on the show later

496
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: this week, But any person saying all lives matter or

497
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 2: we just need love or actively avoiding the true meaning

498
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: the Black lives matter and choosing to stay ignorant.

499
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 3: I ain't got time for that.

500
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: The past two weeks, I've watched my black friends trying

501
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: to have civil conversations about black lives matter and their

502
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: take on police brutality. I think I then see their

503
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: white friends bust up with the black on black crime

504
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: and trying to tell black people how they should be

505
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: responding to these police in these police in interactions. I

506
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 2: know I'm mixing shows, but I'm very happy you made

507
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: that posts saying black people don't have to educate the

508
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 2: ignorant or take some time and to take some time

509
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 2: for ourselves. Lastly, y'all see how quiet the NRA has

510
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: been about this Filando murder. Interesting how the man has

511
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 2: all the required permits necessary to carry a weapon that

512
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 2: still ends up dead. If there's been nothing to discuss,

513
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: fuck them forever. He even took the classes like he

514
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: took police interaction classes like that, dude should not be dead.

515
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: Y'all in the chat room, have a great weekend. Thank

516
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 2: you so much, aj uh And the poll was simple.

517
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: Do you prefer what simple? Nothing that's ever simple?

518
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: Do you prefer that white celebs speak out on racial injustice. Yes,

519
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: we need their voices as well, or no, it's none

520
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 2: of their business.

521
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 4: Uh.

522
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: And it's because people do have mixed feelings around us,

523
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: you know. On the one hand, people like I've seen

524
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: it every single every way you can think of, I've

525
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 2: seen it. I've seen the white celebrities that don't get

526
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 2: involved in black culture and they never speak up on stuff,

527
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: and people resent them for that. I've seen black people,

528
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: white people who do get involved in black culture and

529
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: they never speak up on stuff and people resent them

530
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: for that. I've seen white people who do get involved

531
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: in black culture and they speak out on certain issues

532
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: in blackness, and people resent them for that. I've seen

533
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: white celebrities that don't really get too involved in black

534
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: culture and speak out on black issues.

535
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 3: And I've seen people present them for that.

536
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: Like it really, like there's so much animosity and anger

537
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: at this point in the United States and the evolving race,

538
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: and everyone has their factions in their camps. I don't know,

539
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: I don't know that anyone can step into this round

540
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: without catching some flag for it.

541
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Speaker 6: Yeah, because it's sad, but for a lot of white people,

542
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 6: it's almost to lose lose. You know, you want to

543
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 6: do the right thing and you want to help, but

544
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 6: there's no book, there's no general there's no instructions on

545
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 6: the things that you going to experience from the particular group.

546
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 6: And it's one of those things where you have to

547
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 6: consider the context of history. It's like, for black people,

548
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 6: all y'all look alike, just like y'all claim all us

549
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 6: look like all y'all look like because we can't decipher

550
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 6: the difference between.

551
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 4: A good white person and a bad white person.

552
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 6: And when you step in these groups, it's almost like

553
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 6: you have to form trust and everybody comes in and going,

554
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 6: I don't trust you until you prove yourself otherwise, because

555
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 6: too many white people have stepped into the ram and

556
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 6: the second nigga any animosity, this second niggaive attitude, they're out.

557
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 6: It's almost like for some white people, they come in,

558
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 6: won't pass on the back, want you.

559
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 3: Just to be grateful that.

560
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 4: They took the time out to be concerned about your

561
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 4: black ass and shit like that. Like black people have.

562
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 6: Went through a whole lot of white people when it

563
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 6: comes to this, to these type of things. So it's

564
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 6: one of those things where I know, I personally don't

565
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 6: mind you being here, I don't mind you learning, and

566
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 6: you haven't being understanding. And it's very difficult because it's

567
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 6: a learning curve for everybody. Because you do have some

568
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 6: black people it was like, fuck all white folks, I'm

569
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 6: not like that. But there are people out there that go, nah,

570
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 6: I've been through too much. I've seen through too much,

571
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 6: and I just don't want to deal with it period.

572
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 6: Just like y'all gonna fuck us, will fuck you too.

573
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 6: And that's very, very unrealistic because the thing about movements,

574
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 6: no movements can be done without.

575
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 4: The help of everybody across the board.

576
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 6: And on top of that, people outside of the oppressed

577
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 6: group that are not directly oppressed have to speak up.

578
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 6: And it's also one of those things too for a

579
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 6: lot of white people when they step into these drims,

580
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 6: it's not about you, and that's been very difficult when

581
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 6: society has always taught you that it is about you.

582
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 4: Because the thing is a lot of.

583
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 6: Times a lot of white people have to unlearn the

584
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 6: things that they've been taught directly and indirectly, and that's

585
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 6: those are very very hard changed to break in this country, and.

586
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 4: You have to look outside of what you normally see

587
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 4: every day.

588
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 6: You have to learn how to phrase your words and

589
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 6: what to say and what not to say, and how

590
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 6: not to make people upset. And you don't know these

591
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 6: things going in. So you also need the time and

592
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 6: opportunity to grow. And I think sometimes, in my opinion,

593
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 6: black people don't allow white black people that the room

594
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 6: for error, because errors are going to be made. But

595
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 6: you have to allow them the room for error out

596
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 6: of their lack of knowledge. They're ignorance, them not understanding,

597
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 6: and somebody has to be like, hey, dog, that's not

598
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 6: always cool and here's why. And when they say that,

599
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 6: white people have got to understand that, you have to

600
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 6: be open minded enough to know that it's not about

601
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 6: your ego.

602
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 4: You know, it's not about you, and it's very, very difficult.

603
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 6: And also it's one of those things too where a

604
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 6: lot of white people step in these moves and they

605
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 6: want to take over.

606
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 4: They want to be the voices, they want to be

607
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: the forefront, they want to be the faces.

608
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 6: And the thing is is that now I'm not trying

609
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 6: and funny, you have to earn those spots. And the

610
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 6: thing is, sometimes those are spots that you will never

611
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 6: earn and nobody can.

612
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 4: Speak clearer or can speak more.

613
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 6: In detail about a black person's life other than the

614
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 6: black person period. Even though you might be educated, even

615
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 6: though you might can speak the truth, even though you

616
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 6: might can go educate your family and friends, at the

617
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 6: end of the day, you're not black.

618
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: And that's something that you've got to understand too.

619
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 6: So just because you have an understanding, just because you

620
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 6: can walk in these circles, not one day in your

621
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 6: life where you ever understand what it feels to be black.

622
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 6: And that's something that you've got to understand too.

623
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 4: And also it's one of the things.

624
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 6: Where you can be in these circles and be allies

625
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 6: to these circles and not try to appropriate these circles,

626
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 6: which is you know, people.

627
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 4: Have a problems with that too.

628
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 3: Just what appropriate though, that's the thing.

629
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 6: Everybody has their own definition and ways of what appropriation is.

630
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 6: Some people is a just be yourself. Some people say,

631
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 6: don't come here and talking black. Some people, ay, don't

632
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 6: come in here using slang, And a lot of that

633
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 6: comes back to we all all all people come from

634
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 6: different backgrounds, all people have had different interaction with white people.

635
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,239
Speaker 6: So to me, something that might be cool for one

636
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 6: person might not be cool for another for somebody else.

637
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 4: So it's one of those things where it's almost like

638
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: a It's like you have.

639
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 6: To constantly shift, you have to constantly change, you have

640
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 6: to constantly evolve, you have to constantly adapt and adjust,

641
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 6: which is very, very hard. And it's one of those

642
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 6: things where for a lot of white people, they're not

643
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 6: willing to do that. They'll just say fucking and walk

644
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 6: away because they don't want to actually deal with the

645
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 6: reality that I want to help. But my helping is

646
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 6: more than just my dollars. My helping is, you know,

647
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 6: sometimes more than just my vote. My helping is actually

648
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 6: understanding and having empathy and having sympathy and understanding that.

649
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: Brown people are people.

650
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: Well, I'll just say this, all that is, I understand

651
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: all that. I just think the real truth of the

652
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: matter is as a divide that warranted or unwarranted, there's

653
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: a lot of animosity uh from black people that this

654
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: country has put into us via our treatment here, and

655
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: some some of it will never be bridged. It doesn't

656
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: matter how well meaning a good white person is. Some

657
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: when you speak on our ship, you step into this realm,

658
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: you are going to catch some ship from some black people.

659
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: You know, it's like and this, and I relate to

660
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: this on some levels because you know, when I talk

661
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: about things like when I talk about feminism, when I

662
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: talk about you know, when I talk about LGBTQ issues,

663
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: there are some people that I'm sure like this ain't

664
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: ain't gay, or this ain't ain't LGBTQ.

665
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: Fuck you know about that? Or you know who cares

666
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: about your opinion?

667
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: You know, uh that I know there's one dude that

668
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: you know has completely spread lies about me on Twitter

669
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: Who's who's gay? So like, there's going to be some

670
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: people that are just like, I don't fuck with you

671
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: no matter who you are. You really just have to

672
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: hope that the majority of people can see the work

673
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: you do, know your heart, see your words and understand.

674
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: And then some people are never going to fuck with you.

675
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: And it was it wouldn't have mattered how it happened,

676
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying, Like life and every interactions

677
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: have broken the trust so much that they'll never come around.

678
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: That's why you see some people angry at Maclamore. I

679
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: remember one time I tweeted, like, wait, why are people

680
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: even mad at white Macamore's White Privileged song, it's just

681
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: not for black people.

682
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: It's not in as long.

683
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: It's probably educational for white people who don't think about

684
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: this shit, but for everybody else, we're like, I already

685
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: knew it, no need to listen. And there were people

686
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: mad at him, mad at him, like and well he's

687
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: in why is he in our culture? Then I'm like,

688
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: but if he respects the coaching and spreads the word

689
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: and uses it as a medium to enrich and educate

690
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: these kids, what's wrong with that? Well, we need to

691
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: center black voice in it. Well, he has black people

692
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: on the song that also read the message, Like, he

693
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: didn't have to do any of this shit. He could

694
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: have just kept putting out music and been like, fuck y'all,

695
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: I'm in this coach and I'm making money. It's just

696
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: I don't think the animosity and whatnot will ever go away.

697
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: And that's the cost of taking on these issues. And

698
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 2: that's before you get into the cost of just white

699
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 2: people that don't want to hear this shit. You know,

700
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: your white fan base that is like, man, fuck Macamore

701
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: and fuck Justin Timer, like and fucks on. So for

702
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: even attempting to talk about this shit. So it is

703
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: kind of a lose lose, as you said from the beginning.

704
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: But you can do everything that you said when you

705
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 2: initially talked about it, and people will still there'll still

706
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 2: be some people that don't want you talking about it correct,

707
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: you know, and there's never gonna be a happy balance

708
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: because if you don't talk about it, it's gonna be

709
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 2: people be people like, why you ain't using a platform

710
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 2: to talk about it? If you do talk about it, well,

711
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: why are you talking about it? Why aren't you just

712
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: retweeting other people talking about it? Okay, so you retweet

713
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: what other people say, and then they're like, how come

714
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: you just retweet what people say and you don't say

715
00:34:59,480 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: shit yourself.

716
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: We don't even know how you really feel about it.

717
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 2: You're just putting these other people up like we're supposed

718
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: to just read that shit instead, you know, Like it

719
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: is important to me, and it's one of the reasons

720
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: that I don't try to like sublet out our opinion

721
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: on this show, Like I don't try to bring in

722
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: a quote unquote expert when we talk about some of

723
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 2: this shit, because it's like, no, this is my opinion.

724
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 3: It's important to me that people know that you don't

725
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: have to be.

726
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: LGBTQ to be like you know, I empathize that community,

727
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 2: and I know when injustice is being done to people. Correct,

728
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: you know, I empathize the women. I know when injustice

729
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: is being done to women. You know, I am a

730
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: black person. I know when injustice is being done to

731
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: black people.

732
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: Like I don't need.

733
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: You don't have to be part of these groups to

734
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: have a passionate heart. But you know, at any rate,

735
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 2: I think I prefer that white so let us speak

736
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 2: out when they see things. I prefer that they use

737
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: their voices. But that's my preference. Not everybody's on that.

738
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: Ninety percent of people work on it. They said, yes,

739
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 2: we need their voices as well.

740
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: Seven percent said no, it's none of that business.

741
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: You ain't got the answer, says, this is such an

742
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: interesting poll because many of us who are part of

743
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: the movement are divided personally. I think everyone should speak out.

744
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: We live in two different Americans despite what people think.

745
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: But for me, silence means you support what's going on.

746
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: Period. There isn't a gray area with things like this.

747
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: People do not understand that being silent when you see

748
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: injustice makes you just as complicit as the person delivering

749
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: the injustice. Sure, famous people say dumb shit all the time,

750
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 2: but if they didn't say anything, those same people telling

751
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 2: them to shut up will be saying they can steal

752
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: our culture but can't speak up.

753
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. Everybody needs to speak up, everybody. What do

754
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: you think about that?

755
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 6: For me, like, I say, I'm more on that boat,

756
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 6: but I know a lot of people are like no.

757
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 6: They it's almost like and to me that boils back

758
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 6: to I'm just like and I will forever feel like this.

759
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 6: Just like you have people that are racist, you have

760
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 6: black people that hate white.

761
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 4: People, so in their minds, anything they do is just wrong.

762
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 4: And I'm not of that group.

763
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 6: I'm not going to criticize you for taking an effort

764
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 6: to speak up, because the way our society is designed,

765
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 6: you can opt to ignore it if you want to.

766
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 6: For the fact that you don't, to me, that means something.

767
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 6: I know for a lot of people that go with

768
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 6: no no, it actually means something. But once you acknowledge

769
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 6: it and speak out, you need to continue to do

770
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 6: it regardless of the response to you doing it, because

771
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 6: that's the thing.

772
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 4: A lot of people act like it's very easy. Simple,

773
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 4: It's not easy.

774
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 6: When you come out and you speak, people are constantly

775
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 6: belligerent at you.

776
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 4: They're constantly telling you how.

777
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 6: You're doing it wrong, what you're doing it wrong, You're

778
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 6: not doing it the way I want it, You're not

779
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 6: doing it the way I like it, And it's just constant.

780
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 3: Boom boom boo boo boo boom boom.

781
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 6: So for a lot of people that are like, why

782
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 6: should I even care because I'm trying to care and

783
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 6: I'm constantly getting bashed and beat upside the head by.

784
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 4: Everything that I do and everything that I say. But

785
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 4: the thing is for black people that's reversed.

786
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 6: When we walk into these other circles, we get this

787
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 6: same response and reactions. I'm not I'm not trying to

788
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 6: say it's fear and right or anything like that, but

789
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 6: we get the same reaction where we come out and

790
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 6: we try to speak out and we constantly are told

791
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 6: how we're never enough and how everything that happened to

792
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 6: us is our fault.

793
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think it takes a lot of.

794
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: It's just takes a lot of trust that isn't developed

795
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: that and honestly, I just think I wish people would

796
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: be a little more honest. It's never gonna happen for

797
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: some of this, Like some people are never gonna trust

798
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: you no matter what because you're in your circle. You

799
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: can always use your privilege to exit. And also it's

800
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 2: a learning process. Every time you say something wrong, people

801
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: are gonna assume the worst. It's a lot, it's a

802
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: high wire act. I get why people don't want to

803
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: do it correct, but I love that people do.

804
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: I'm not. And that's not to give anyone an extra

805
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 3: bump of like, well, you didn't have to when you did.

806
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: On some like like it's put it no, no, no, no,

807
00:38:59,560 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: I take that.

808
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 5: No.

809
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: I absolutely do give you an extra bump because you

810
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 2: didn't have to when you did. I don't give you

811
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: a bump over black people. I don't give you up

812
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: because no one has to when they do. Like but

813
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: but yes, everybody period gets a bump for speaking up

814
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of people that don't have to

815
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 2: speak up, and they do. You know, nobody has to.

816
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 2: There's so many black people. Look at Charles Barkley, they'll

817
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 2: just coast by on that racism that people have and

818
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 2: just ride that wave. There's like you can be black

819
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: opted out of this. You make enough money, right, you

820
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: can like a lot of people opt out of talking

821
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: about equality because of this. So Drake three Dubb says,

822
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: I think they should speak up due to the fact

823
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: that it does seem like it seems that who delivers

824
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: the message. It does seem that who delivers the message

825
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: it's more important than the message. Why does the victim

826
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: need to be perfect in the protests and need to

827
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: identify more than saying something or or is or is

828
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 2: or isn't right. I know that's a simple way to

829
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: encapsulate the problems, but believe, I believe in society says

830
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: a person has been deemed as someone who is worth with.

831
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 3: Listen to society. Does society worship celebrities?

832
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: Mark says White people should speak out, but they need

833
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: to be more sincere and confident in what they're saying

834
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: because there should be pushed back.

835
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: They could be pushed back.

836
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: If they're going to fold like a cheap suit at

837
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 2: the first negative comment, then they do no one any good.

838
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 3: I agree, that was.

839
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: Really like I said, I didn't even mind justin Timerlateke's

840
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: original comment, but that O U sweet soul thing is

841
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: what he fucked up because I was like, yeah, dog,

842
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: someone criticized you. You need to internalize that and think

843
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 2: about that. You know, some niggas are going to defend

844
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: you just out of some straight up like he trying y'all.

845
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: But a lot of black people are like, yeah, what

846
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: about that, and just going, well, we're all the same,

847
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: aren't we. That's too many people I've heard that color

848
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: blind bullshit to know that it is. You know, you

849
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: can retreat away from it the way you ran away

850
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: from Jenna Jackson.

851
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 6: That's true, And I think for a lot of people

852
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,959
Speaker 6: when it comes to this, a lot of black people

853
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 6: get tired of when white people fuck up. You have

854
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 6: black people that swoop in and try to quote unquote

855
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 6: say yes versus letting them deal with the reality of

856
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 6: what the what they said, because honestly, the only way

857
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 6: you're gonna learn you have to face the reality of

858
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 6: the repercussions of what you say.

859
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 4: Because a lot of times.

860
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 6: When you've always been in a safe space and you

861
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 6: can say these things, you never challenged and nobody ever.

862
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 4: Tell you this.

863
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 6: Certain phrases are wrong and certain stereotypes are wrong, and

864
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 6: how you do things are not right. And somebody about hey, doll,

865
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 6: you're wrong, and because a lot of times, initially in general,

866
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 6: people don't like to be told they're wrong people because

867
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 6: they feelings, they get defensive, they want to bark back

868
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 6: and they don't and they don't want to listen. And

869
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 6: sometimes you have to let that discussion be had, and

870
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 6: there's nothing wrong with that discussion because that's how everybody learns.

871
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 4: And you always have some.

872
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 6: Super negro that wants to come in, but hey, don't,

873
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 6: don't do this to this white person, and that causes

874
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 6: conforlict too, for the hey nigga, I'm here trying to

875
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 6: help and you destructing the learning.

876
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 3: Processos with that stuff all the time. So you know

877
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 3: what I mean, what are you gonna do?

878
00:41:59,719 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 5: Right?

879
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: Like people people come like they don't defend Iggy, but

880
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 2: they'll defend justin you know, you still picked which one

881
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: you're defending, you know, based on how much you like

882
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: their music or whatever you feel about them personally.

883
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 3: I just I try to stay out of that shit.

884
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, if they gonna fold like a chief suitis

885
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: this person said, didn't what they didn't do anybody any good?

886
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: It would probably help if they had some good will.

887
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: For example, have they been around people at different races before.

888
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: Are they known the frequent activities, what people of different

889
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: races might be. It's a community in question familiar enough

890
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: with them. Are there people of the racing question that

891
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: could if it came to a vouch for them in

892
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: a way that would be accepted versus a nice but

893
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: insincere act to say someone from figuratively drowning. The first

894
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 2: few occasions are speaking up should probably be in audio

895
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: or video form so that people don't misinterpret the tone

896
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: or what the celebrity is saying. I would recommend to

897
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: talk show a podcast format with people who has credibility

898
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: and might guide them through the bumpy patches and what

899
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 2: they're saying. Once the training wheels come off, the celebrity

900
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: to do should be good to go solo comment and

901
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: knowing that at.

902
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: Least some people will have his or her back.

903
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

904
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 3: I think a lot of times too.

905
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: What happens is people don't pay attention to social media

906
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: because social media is really a free class on how

907
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: to fucking talk.

908
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, they ignore that, like it's a lot of shit

909
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 4: that pop up. Black my thing. If I've runed this,

910
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 4: people will tell you how they feel.

911
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 6: It's up to you on whether you want to accept it,

912
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 6: and yeah, it's like you said, it's literally a freedom.

913
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 6: That's almost like when women come out but like, hey,

914
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 6: I don't like to be street harassed.

915
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 4: Right, they're telling you flat.

916
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: Out you can absolutely learn how to talk to people

917
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: through social media.

918
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 4: You just be like, hey, I'm gonna do this anyway.

919
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 4: Why because you don't give a fuck?

920
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Evie, he says, I think white celebrities who speak

921
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: out on injustices in the black community are damned that

922
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: they do. Damn that they don't so when they do

923
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: in a respectful so they so if they don't do

924
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: so when in wait, when they do it in a

925
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: respectful way, I actually appreciate it because they risk alienating

926
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: their white fans. I've seen several post when Matt McCrory

927
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: sorry Matt McGrory, Matt McGrory of how to get Away

928
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 2: with Murder in Orders the New Black Fame has posted

929
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: from woe ass tweets, and each time one of his

930
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: white fans tells him how the vice if he's being yeah,

931
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: he continues to do it. We need white people to

932
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: speak up because sometimes black people can educate. Protests until

933
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 2: and protests until we're blue in the face with some

934
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: white people will only listen to other white people. And

935
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: as fucked up as that is, that's how it is sometimes, right,

936
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: that's the reality of it. Is, Like I see a

937
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: lot of black people who feel idealistic, almost like this

938
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: is a violation of my integrity to even address the

939
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: idea that.

940
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 3: I need some white person to say the same shit

941
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: I say.

942
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, then either you have no historical

943
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: lens that you're viewing this through, or you're so worried

944
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: about the unfairness of it or being able to point

945
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: out the problem that you're not looking at what the

946
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: solution is. Because the solution is white racism is a

947
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 2: white person's problem to solve in this country. Your black

948
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: ass can't do, you know what I mean, Like, you

949
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: can stop the freeway and stuff, you can make it inconvenient,

950
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: but all that can really do is put the battery

951
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: in the back for white people to handle their own shit,

952
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: because it ain't us.

953
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: We ain't the problem on.

954
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 6: This because racism was a starter about us, so it's

955
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 6: not our problem to fix.

956
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

957
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: So, I mean, at some point people are gonna have

958
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: to get over the uncomfortable moment that is white people

959
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 2: have to speak out on this shit.

960
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 3: Yes they do. You know your favorite white person.

961
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: Hopefully they listening and being guided and absorbing information and learning,

962
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: but they are gonna have to be the ones that

963
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 2: do it. So why I didn't watch any of those

964
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: townhalls on race this week because there's nothing I can

965
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 2: be educated on from those town halls.

966
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 3: Zero.

967
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: And the fact that we have to capitulate and compromise

968
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: with the white lens to have those discussions on national

969
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: TV is already a huge turnoff to me.

970
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 4: You serve because, in my opinion, is not a real discussion.

971
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 2: Episode twelve forty two is the South Terns. This is

972
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: a fun episode. Talked about all kinds of stuff, the

973
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 2: time with Layla and whatnot.

974
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 3: Ao Right said.

975
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: In this episode, Rod talked about how he don't have

976
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: the time or see it as his role to be

977
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: a teacher for those who don't know. I think he

978
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: may have been making a point that everyone has a

979
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: role and that's just not his. I'm afraid that in

980
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: the resoluteness of his comments that point may have been

981
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: lost or made. Maybe that is not what he meant,

982
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: in which case I respect his perspective and offer up

983
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: another way to think about this work, the work of

984
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: liberating black people in all marginalized groups. In the nonprofit

985
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: philanthropy world, there's an idea that assistants can come in

986
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: onf forms and anyone can help as a door donor

987
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: or door opener. I'm glad that you have positive positioning

988
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: yourself to provide respite and perspective through this platform. That

989
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: is not my talent, and I'm not a protester, so

990
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: I give and take up the man of educating those

991
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: who are less conscious. Barbara Love talked about the role

992
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: of the oppressor and the oppressed to both learn and educate.

993
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: In her role on Anti Oppressure, she basically says to

994
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: white people, those in power knew better, they would do better.

995
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: This makes me appreciative of the Tim Wises and the

996
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: Peggy McIntoshes and the jesse More of the world. In

997
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: such instances, they are better messengers, especially for pre novice,

998
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: fragile white people who don't see color. Whatever role we

999
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: play is necessarily step back and engage in self care

1000
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: because fighting racism is exhausting. Listening to this podcast and

1001
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: being able to laugh at the foolishness, it's part of

1002
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 2: my self care. I'm so glad this is here now.

1003
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: I actually responded to this comment because this happened on

1004
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: like a Monday or something, and I was like, hold up,

1005
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: I gotta at least explain what I meant, because you know,

1006
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to be taken out of context. And

1007
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: to sum up, I absolutely do believe what I said originally,

1008
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 2: which is that it is not any black person's role

1009
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 2: or responsibility to educate white people on this racism and shit,

1010
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: and especially those of you guys who are being demanded

1011
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: of you pejoratively in your free time on Facebook and

1012
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: social media will educate, meaning well, I think all lives matter.

1013
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: It is it is an attack, it is harassment. It

1014
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: has the horse has left the barn on this one.

1015
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: Like no matter how quote unquote well meaning it is disguised.

1016
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: I have watched it happen and the pattern is the same.

1017
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: I look in our Facebook group. I challenge anyone to

1018
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 2: look in our Facebook group over the last two weeks.

1019
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 2: Every day I see multiple posts where people just basically

1020
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: took screenshots from white people that they thought they loved

1021
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: Black people, that they thought loved them vice versa. You know,

1022
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: like they and where they are just upset because they're like, Yo,

1023
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: my friend from high school just said all lives matter

1024
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: on my post and then they said, well what about

1025
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: black on black crime? And then they said and I said,

1026
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: I am sick of seeing us abused. It is abusive,

1027
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: It is mentally draining. I'm not telling anyone what they

1028
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: can't do. Keep in mind, and no point did I

1029
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 2: say don't do it.

1030
00:48:59,080 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 5: You.

1031
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is you don't have to and in general,

1032
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 3: it ain't help it anyway.

1033
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: Okay, some people, people that want to be educated, typically

1034
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 2: going to spaces where they can be educated. The vast

1035
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 2: resources of fucking Google and every essay that has ever

1036
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: been written about race is out there for this person.

1037
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 3: They don't want to know. Campaign zero got a website,

1038
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: Black Lives Matter got a website. They can learn if

1039
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 3: they want to learn. We see so much media that

1040
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 3: we share on our Facebook and Twitter pages and stuff

1041
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 3: where it is education.

1042
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 2: It is education for people who want to learn. It

1043
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 2: is spreading the word and awareness for people who want

1044
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: to learn. You know how many people don't even click

1045
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: on that shit. They see the title and they just

1046
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: start fighting with you in your comment. Yes, you don't

1047
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 2: have to give in to that. And I want you

1048
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: black person listening to this to know you are more

1049
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: valuable than that. Okay, you don't have to do that.

1050
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: A lot of these people know exactly what they're doing

1051
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: to you, Okay, And I see the suffering that people go.

1052
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: Through, and it ain't worth it.

1053
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 4: Give up.

1054
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it ain't worth.

1055
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 4: It, man.

1056
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying, and it does.

1057
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: Like I said, this isn't saying that that there's not

1058
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: a space for people to be educators. This isn't saying

1059
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 2: there's not a space for people to be resources. This

1060
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: isn't saying that if you want or you like some person,

1061
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 2: or you believe in this person and you want to

1062
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: educate them, we take the time out. This isn't discouraging

1063
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: you from doing any of that. What I do want

1064
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: you to know is absolutely, without questioning, you ain't got

1065
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: to do a fucking thing. So if they say something

1066
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: to you and you're like, I don't feel like educating.

1067
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 3: Your ass on this. This is just how I feel

1068
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 3: the fuck about my space.

1069
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: You're justified and you should never be ashamed of that

1070
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: cause you're a human being too, and you are worth it.

1071
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: And they run us up out of spaces when they

1072
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 2: aint tired of us. They run us up out of

1073
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 2: spaces when we disagree, and when we dissent, Okay, they

1074
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 2: run us up out of spaces constantly for the wrongs.

1075
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: Shit all right, Like you wear a Black Lives Matter

1076
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 2: shirt to work, See what happens. Like they run us

1077
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 2: up out of space when we're one hundred percent right.

1078
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: So in your free time, you can run them upout

1079
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: for your face with paid don't even feel bad about

1080
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: that shit.

1081
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 4: It's your time. You're not paying me to be here.

1082
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 4: This is my fucking time, and I choose not to

1083
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 4: goddamn argue with you.

1084
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I understand.

1085
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: Keep in mind that same episode I said later in

1086
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: the episode, Yo, I do understand that, And it is

1087
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: unfortunate that it's left up to black protests to fight

1088
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: racism because if not, white people just wouldn't do it.

1089
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 3: I do understand that the that you have to make some.

1090
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: You have to show some difference to to to the

1091
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: to oppressors, whether no matter what the power structure is, right,

1092
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: women have to make some sort of concession to men

1093
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 2: if they want to get equality, because men are the

1094
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 2: only ones in position to truly grant them what they deserve.

1095
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 3: And the and the and to step back and be like, Okay,

1096
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: this is the wrong thing that we're doing, so I

1097
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 3: understand it.

1098
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 2: But at the same time, don't feel no pressure that you,

1099
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: personally person with a nine to five and kids and

1100
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: the life and all this other shit trying to be

1101
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 2: happy on a daily basis getting an all lives matter friend.

1102
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 2: Hey man, don't take make it a life's mission to

1103
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: educate them. I've seen some many of those exchanges that

1104
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: they never end good. You know, the best you can

1105
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 2: hope for is they go, oh, okay, well I guess uh,

1106
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: I'll see what you're saying.

1107
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 3: That's the best you can hope for.

1108
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 6: Times that does not happen in my whole purpose too,

1109
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 6: when I spoke on it, Go to these fucking places

1110
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 6: where these people get paid and they desire to educate you,

1111
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 6: don't harass me.

1112
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: And Ao went on to talk about how that is

1113
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: basically their job, like part of what they do is

1114
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: doing this stuff and they understand that it's frustrating and whatnot.

1115
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: Let me let me see. Yeah, thanks for replying, Rod.

1116
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: This is a real tension I feel daily, especially because

1117
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: my work is centered in this, so it's hard to

1118
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: disengage from work work from person. It should not be

1119
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: any appressive person's job, and the onus for understanding should

1120
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: be put upon the pressers. But we're talking about the

1121
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 2: difference between philosophy what people should do, in psychology what

1122
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 2: people do.

1123
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 3: The burden is heavy and un equally shared. It's hella frustrating,

1124
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 3: for sure, but in justice is not just.

1125
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: There are days when I feel just like you, and

1126
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: I'm frustrated and absolutely done with white people and I

1127
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: can't take it anymore. I think it's okay for you

1128
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: not to show to this burden because you're doing other work.

1129
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 2: I will engage in these conversations because of not to

1130
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: not would frustrate me more. Well, yeah, that's just you,

1131
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: and that's also your work. What I'm like, and this

1132
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 2: happens a lot, man, and I want to say this

1133
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 2: in a way that is.

1134
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 3: Understanding.

1135
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 2: But to me, what this person is doing is that

1136
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 2: thing where I'm talking about a general topic and they're

1137
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 2: personalizing it to just them and by doing so kind

1138
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,479
Speaker 2: of making themselves the center of attention when it ain't

1139
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 2: about just you.

1140
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 3: Like clearly, my.

1141
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: Comments were to the ninety nine point nine percent of

1142
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 2: black people that are just going about that fucking day.

1143
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 3: When some white person goes all Lives Matter.

1144
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 2: On their Facebook page, you know what I'm saying, like,

1145
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: if your work is within this field, I didn't say

1146
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: anything about people who work in this field or that

1147
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: they shouldn't do it, or that you know, that's not

1148
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: their job. I'm saying for people who are just going

1149
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: about their goddamn day, it ain't your job.

1150
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 3: It really ain't.

1151
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 2: And it's okay if you want to block that person.

1152
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 2: It's okay. If you want to disengage from that person

1153
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: because they're not helpful to you. They're not that it

1154
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: is harmful. It is mentally harmful to be put on

1155
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 2: the defense of your own humanity on a daily basis.

1156
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 3: It's not okay. And I want you to know here

1157
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 3: that my what I say, what I think is that

1158
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 3: it's not okay and that you don't owe anybody shit.

1159
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 2: So that's how I feel about it, you know, And

1160
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: that's as clear as I can get it. If you

1161
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: want to go work in spaces where you do that,

1162
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 2: I understand you know those right. This has never been

1163
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 2: a show where I'm like, fuck all white people, they

1164
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: ain't shit. This is not that show. You know what

1165
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 2: I mean, so you know, keeping it within the parameters

1166
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: of what I said. There are some people that are

1167
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 2: abusive under the auspices of I'm trying to be educated.

1168
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 3: When they're not. They're just the center of attention and

1169
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 3: that is not tolerable to me, and you don't have

1170
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 3: to tolerate it.

1171
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 2: H This is also why I do fuck with white

1172
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: allies who are trying to help with their own interrogate

1173
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: their bosses, and then then helping the message, helping to

1174
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 2: message to the unbelievers drew from NIO. Rachel John had

1175
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 2: a really good post number ninety eight, where he talked

1176
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: about the active work he must take to raise his

1177
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: consciousness and continually work for the betterment of oppressed peoples,

1178
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: especially in those times where he doesn't get it or

1179
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 2: starts to make it all about himself. I really do

1180
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: believe it takes a collective effort and that change will come.

1181
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: Changes come, but we're just not done yet.

1182
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 3: If not for that.

1183
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 2: Belief that hope for a better day, most days, I'd

1184
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 2: really just curl up and die because this nation is

1185
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: so brutal and unloving to people who look like me,

1186
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: and that hurts more than the pain I feel from

1187
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: having the same conversation over and over and trying to

1188
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 2: convince people of my humanity. And I said, I agree

1189
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: with everything you said. I only want black people on

1190
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: other marginalized people to know they don't have to be

1191
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 2: abused by explaining that humanity to people on social media

1192
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: over and over for.

1193
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 4: Nothing, for nothing, for nothing. And that's the thing.

1194
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 6: It's one of those things when and I know everybody

1195
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 6: looks at the word allies differently, but it's a lot

1196
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 6: of times I'm kind of like Roger, I don't really

1197
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 6: look at white people as quote unquote allies. I just

1198
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 6: look at them as carrying human beings. Because the thing

1199
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 6: about quote unquote allies a lot of times when you

1200
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 6: use that phrase of words a lot of times, for

1201
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 6: a lot.

1202
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 4: Of black people, these quote unquote allies.

1203
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 6: Have left them holding the bag, left them by themselves,

1204
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 6: they walked out, They've got to the point where it

1205
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 6: became too hard and they did not care anymore. So

1206
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 6: most black people just want you to be a caring

1207
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 6: human being, just care about my humanity. And these people

1208
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 6: that attack people on social media constantly be like all

1209
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 6: lives matter, they do not care about your fucking humanity

1210
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 6: and they're telling you they don't care. Believe people when

1211
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 6: they tell you the truth, and don't waste your time.

1212
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 6: And it might be because I have a group that

1213
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 6: we see the pattern. If I have to approve one

1214
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 6: more post, I'm gonna scream of just hey, man. So

1215
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 6: I was talking to my friend. I think, you know,

1216
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 6: maybe he gets to that the end.

1217
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I guess this is as

1218
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 3: good as it's gonna get.

1219
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yo, I've approved this same post one

1220
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: hundred times in the last two weeks, just from different people.

1221
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 4: Because it's just heartbreaking.

1222
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 3: This is a pattern of people abusing you.

1223
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 2: And that's like I said, there's some people that get

1224
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: paid for this right direct them to them, you know

1225
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1226
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 3: That's like you shouldn't have to take up the mantle

1227
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 3: to do that.

1228
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: That's not your burden, man, and it's really fucked up

1229
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: to do It's it's like if every time a person

1230
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 2: talked to every time someone posted something about being gay,

1231
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 2: I was just like, well, can you explain to me

1232
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: why that's okay?

1233
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 4: Like, no, nigga, this is all I am.

1234
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: Leave me alone.

1235
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: I can go Google it right, Like you don't get

1236
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 2: on here and have to explain your whiteness to people

1237
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: every fucking day, Like, oh they gotta sell at the gap.

1238
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 3: Explain to me why that's okay? Like funk out of here?

1239
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 2: Uh think ms mart right saying Wiskey wanting the moonshine.

1240
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 2: Thank you for talking about the good cop poster boy

1241
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 2: Tommy Norman. At first I didn't realize it was the

1242
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 2: same guy. This is a pr stuff, and I wonder

1243
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: how he feels about being used this way.

1244
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 4: Yep, you have nobody's asking him.

1245
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 2: Look, man, that dude and his videos hagging black kids

1246
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: make people feel better.

1247
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 4: And that's all it is.

1248
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna just leave it at that, because everybody

1249
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: else tried to accuse or at least throw something like

1250
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: what y'all, y'all you know why y'all hating on this man.

1251
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody hating on that man? Stop, don't put words

1252
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: in my mouth. Ain't nobody ever said a word, Nobody

1253
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: even doubted his sincerity. Do not if you can't, if

1254
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 2: you can't have this discussion on the two oh one level,

1255
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: you know, if you if you if you're still on

1256
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: racism one on one stay the fuck up out of

1257
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 2: my face, because it.

1258
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 3: Was extremely It was extremely.

1259
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: Annoying the people who tried to turn it into an

1260
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: indictment on him, because I said, they are using him

1261
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 2: as propaganda to distract from the fact that they keep

1262
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: killing us. Right, don't get mad at me fucking for

1263
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: not being distracted. I'm willing to say, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1264
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 2: that's adorable. The fuck does that have to do with

1265
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 2: You're killing innocent black people for no fucking reason. Nothing,

1266
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: because you're not gonna make me have quote unquote hope,

1267
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: and you don't get to legislate hope to me and

1268
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 2: tell me you have to be hopeful, Rod, I'm not

1269
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: hopeful when I see people falling for the banana and tailpipe.

1270
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: When they throw this dude's face up, you know, like

1271
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: it's like if the dude that was a swimmer and

1272
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: a rapist, remember that dude. Yes, it's like if they

1273
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: had him. But then they also show a video of

1274
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 2: a kid and sleeping with a dog and being like,

1275
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 2: isn't this funny to y'all? I mean, this is adorable,

1276
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 2: this video. It's like those two things don't have shit

1277
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: to do with each other, you know what I mean?

1278
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 2: Adorable kitdting video. Okay, well, I guess everything made me

1279
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 2: feel better.

1280
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1281
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: Let me know how the people on the forest feel

1282
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: about Tommy. How to other cop streat Tommy? Let me

1283
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: know about that. Kradign says, I just want to say

1284
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: that the Five Star Chicks song started this episode. I

1285
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 2: nearly started singing along in the middle of my office.

1286
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 2: So glad these groupy telling these groups are telling stories again.

1287
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 2: Katie kate B says, I'll literally scream when the song

1288
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: came on. Glad I was driving in my car rather

1289
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: than a work or something. Dark Gable One says Wendy

1290
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: invited rolling on her program to be educated, respect the

1291
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: fact that she's willing to admit that she was wrong.

1292
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 3: Uh you, yeah, that's sure.

1293
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're saying you respect the fact

1294
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 2: or telling us to respect the fact. But either way, whatever,

1295
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: shouldn't have said that shit, right, But good on her.

1296
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: Really Dark Knight says I love this episode. I got

1297
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: three things. One educated and explaining racism to people is exhausting,

1298
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 2: so I limit that in my interactions. I found that

1299
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: it's just another opportunity for some of them to say

1300
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 2: that black people are racist for calling out racism. Sometimes

1301
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: I want to tell them to go fuck themselves. Yeah, basically,

1302
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 2: Like I almost caught myself about to do it the

1303
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 2: other night because I was going on a message board

1304
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: and for one of my favorite podcasts, KTG, and I

1305
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: was talking to what the Brother Michael of him, and

1306
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 2: he was like, you know, he's been doing this thing

1307
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: where he's just been talking about he don't understand nothing

1308
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 2: with black lives matter, no matter how much information he gets,

1309
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Speaker 2: no matter what people say to him, no matter how

1310
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 2: many times people explained it to him. And I just

1311
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: went in the message board and looked at all those

1312
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: people explaining shit to him, and I was just like, Yo,

1313
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 2: you don't want to know, Like you just don't like

1314
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: to day stop traffic or whatever the fuck, and you

1315
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: know what, you just gonna have to not like that

1316
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 2: you were ready to vote for a candidate with Bernie

1317
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: Sanders who fucking did sit ins and shit. I've never

1318
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 2: heard anybody admonish his protesting at all or use it

1319
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 2: as a knock against him, you know, like it's always

1320
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: kind of being like a positive thing from the people

1321
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 2: that fuck with him. But whether it's positive or not,

1322
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 2: I've never seen it be a negative thing.

1323
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 3: No one's ever been like.

1324
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 6: Uh.

1325
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 2: Only issue I had with Bernie is that he used

1326
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 2: to do these protests back in the day where he

1327
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 2: would sit in and make it inconvenient for people that

1328
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 2: just want to get something to eat.

1329
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm not your enemy. I'm just coming to get

1330
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 3: something to eat. YO. Real talk, And there's really no

1331
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 3: nice way to say it.

1332
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 2: If you don't care, and if you're not, if you're

1333
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 2: more worried about being inconvenienced in traffic, you are the enemy.

1334
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 3: That's how it is. It's not a nice thing to say,

1335
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 3: but it's the truth.

1336
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,919
Speaker 2: Until you give a fuck more about black people dying

1337
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 2: than you care about getting to work on time, you

1338
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: the enemy because that's what keeps things going.

1339
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 3: The status quo is that you.

1340
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: Don't really care until you're inconvenient and we'll see if

1341
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: the tactics work or not. But I know this much

1342
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 2: a lot of people that weren't talking about Black Lives Matter,

1343
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: that weren't talking about black protests, that weren't talking about

1344
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: black people being killed by the cops, are talking about it.

1345
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 2: Even if they're angry, they're talking about it now because

1346
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 2: they're like, Yo, this this must really be a problem.

1347
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 2: You know, they stop traffic because now you're worried about yourself.

1348
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 3: Well guess what.

1349
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 2: I worry about myself every time I leave this house.

1350
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: So you know there's one way to shut me up,

1351
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 2: you know. And the thing also is that a lot

1352
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 2: of people imply like, well, then voting in November is

1353
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 2: the way to fix this, right, We'll just wait to

1354
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 2: the polls, to go to the post one. People are

1355
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 2: galvanizing to vote, people are encouraging folks to go out

1356
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 2: and vote.

1357
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. I didn't vote for this bathroom

1358
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 3: bill in North Carolina.

1359
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 4: Didn't get a chance.

1360
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: I also didn't vote for this new law where the

1361
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 2: cops do not have to disclose that their videos from

1362
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 2: dash cams and body cameras.

1363
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 3: I didn't vote for that.

1364
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 4: Now one fucking ballot.

1365
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: Now, how did that change happen? How did that change happen?

1366
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: Because no one voted for it? There, It wasn't on

1367
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: any ballot. No one campaigns on these issues. How did

1368
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: this change come about? You see what I'm saying. So

1369
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: if change can happen in times that aren't November without

1370
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 2: anyone voting, you got damn right. Maybe you got to

1371
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 2: protest and get in some people's faces so that you

1372
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: can get changed, not in November. Some people can't wait

1373
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: till November. By the time we get to November, another

1374
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 2: one hundred or so black.

1375
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 3: People will be dead. We don't have time to wait.

1376
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 3: So somebody got to get out there and stop some

1377
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 3: traffic sometimes.

1378
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 4: Right, and it might be your black ass. You might

1379
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 4: not have a time chance to vote somebody out of.

1380
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 2: Office, right, so you have it's privileged to even say

1381
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: it that way. Well, just get our damn vote. It's

1382
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 2: privileged to even think that way. You know, that's the

1383
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: that's how you should. You should be patient and have

1384
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: to wait for that to solve your problem, because a

1385
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: lot of people are gonna get out there protests and

1386
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 2: they're gonna vote. Now what anyway, you know, some same

1387
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 2: black people that made sure Bernie ain't way by the way.

1388
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 4: I'm an of'm saying black people he didn't cater to.

1389
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 2: Two Wendy Williams got her ass red and I'm here

1390
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 2: for it. Three fifty ain't shit. That is all the

1391
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 2: comments for the poll, which was how do you feel

1392
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 2: about Tommy Norman and about the stories on Tommy Norman? Right,

1393
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 2: now inspiring, indifferent, or insulting. Eleven percent said it was

1394
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 2: inspiring to see the story of this white cop that

1395
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 2: has a great relationship with the neighborhood he's in. I

1396
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: love seeing the videos for the record, Like, when I

1397
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: see the videos, I'm like, that's that's cool. I'm glad

1398
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 2: today those people like him. Insulting eleven percent say it's insulting,

1399
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 2: and in different seventy eight percent just don't give a fuck.

1400
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 2: I'll say this, I love seeing the videos. I just

1401
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 2: hate the Tommy. Don't show it to me right now,

1402
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: you know. Don't wait till some fucked up shit happens

1403
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 2: and then be like, hey, but look at this guy.

1404
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 5: You know.

1405
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: I hope he gets all the money from game and

1406
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 2: the people that raise money for him and stuff. I

1407
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 2: hope he does as much good as he can with it.

1408
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: But I wish everyone in his department looked up to

1409
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: him and not just the kids on the street. Come on,

1410
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 2: Ali says, yeah, I'm more like man, Okay, so does

1411
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 2: he want a cookie? I do follow Officer Tommy on Instagram,

1412
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 2: and while some of his post a hard warman, there

1413
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 2: are others that come across like a peep show. For

1414
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 2: not only whites, but anyone who doesn't know what it's

1415
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 2: like to live in inner city neighborhood. And his attempt

1416
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 2: to humanize these people, sometimes he further otherises them because

1417
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 2: there's only so much of a.

1418
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 3: Person's life that a picture or fifteen second video can tell.

1419
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 3: I agree with you, Rod, I'm happy he is doing

1420
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 3: the work that he does. It seems to come from

1421
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 3: a sincere place, but I'm not ready to give him

1422
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 3: the medal honor for doing what he is supposed to do.

1423
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 2: There's another officer I've come across on Twitter at Michael A.

1424
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: Woods Junior, who is a former Baltimore officer. He was

1425
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 2: fired or maybe he quit, I'm not sure, who actively

1426
01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 2: speaks out on corruption and policing.

1427
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 4: Have you heard of him?

1428
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 3: You should check him out. So, yeah, there you go.

1429
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 2: That's a hero, because that motherfucker can't work there as

1430
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 2: long as he's like yo, y'all look covering.

1431
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 3: Sit up and being dirty.

1432
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 2: Dre three Dove says, I see no, I see no

1433
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 2: big deal about Officer Tommy because personally, I already know

1434
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 2: officers like him. My time has resource officers, policemen who

1435
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 2: patrol schools, come to games and kind of first responders

1436
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 2: when things break out of school. Whenever I go home,

1437
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 2: I see those guys and they are cool as hell

1438
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 2: because they remember me. But the larger issue is the

1439
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: police incorporated have an issue. Most of them are not

1440
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 2: Officer Tommy, my, school resource officers or shack. They don't

1441
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 2: relate to the people they police would unless you interact

1442
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 2: with them outside of that badge. So they seem stan

1443
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 2: daffis and actors that they are the only ones that

1444
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 2: take care of the community.

1445
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 3: Who watches the watchmen? Yep? Who police the police? All right?

1446
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 3: We also had episode twelve forty three Memphis Broke question

1447
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 3: Mark uh and we had six comments? So many comments

1448
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 3: this week? Oh, let's see what we had here, Katrina. Wait, no,

1449
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

1450
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 2: Al says, when it comes to white people who are

1451
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 2: willfully ignorant and not interested in learning, that are absolutely

1452
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: one hundred percent degree trolls are toxic, and that is

1453
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 2: not doing the type of engagement I was talking about.

1454
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 2: My response to twelve forty two, I as glutely agree

1455
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 2: with your words here. Not my job to help people

1456
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 2: who are actively trying looking to be harmful. It's always

1457
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 2: thanks for pushing my thinging, Hey, Ao, that's what I'm

1458
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 2: talking about. Al came around, Thank you, sweetie. Yeah, that's

1459
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 2: all I was talking about the whole time, all right,

1460
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 2: Like people that want to be educated find a way.

1461
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that much.

1462
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 6: And you can tell their sincere in their interaction with

1463
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 6: you and then and going back and forth with you,

1464
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 6: versus the people that I just strictly trolled.

1465
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 2: Send them a link, they go somewhere, they'll be like, Okay, cool,

1466
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 2: I'll be back.

1467
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 6: You know, like, oh, they'll come back and like, you

1468
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 6: know what, what you said make a difference. So I

1469
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 6: read the link, or I educate like that day. We

1470
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 6: will come back around if they're willing to do. But

1471
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 6: the people that are quanstantly belligerent and always have these

1472
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 6: pinpoint excuses that are very generic.

1473
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 3: M m mm hmm. Katrina right saying.

1474
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 2: Katrina Pavela writes saying, thank you for your discussion regarding

1475
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 2: which black lives are worthy of remembrance.

1476
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 3: I just felt mood of comment.

1477
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 2: The problem you hit upon resonates with me is I

1478
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 2: find internet culture to be as frustrating as it is

1479
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 2: hilarious and powerful. We now seem the lack of ability

1480
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 2: to find grace for people and two quick uh and

1481
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 2: are too quick to summarily dismiss people folks if they

1482
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 2: are not in complete alignment with what I believe politics,

1483
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: et cetera aka fuck you forever. Funnily, we always wait

1484
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 2: for the grace for ourselves when we fuck up or

1485
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 2: our attack.

1486
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 3: We remember our person's humanity when it is ours right,

1487
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 3: but we.

1488
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 4: Don't extend that empathy and sympathy out to other people.

1489
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one thing that was interesting about that

1490
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 2: dude who was like, you know, Sundra Bland's a homophobe

1491
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 2: and I'll never say her name and fuck her. And

1492
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 2: then he called her a bitch, and then people called

1493
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 2: him out and he was able to say, like, yo,

1494
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 2: I shouldn't let that happened. I apologize, I'm sorry about that,

1495
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And I thought, Yeah, the sad shame

1496
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 2: is Sondra Blaine never got a chance to apologize and

1497
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: to give a better person than to be called out.

1498
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 2: And yeah, like to me, I wish she was alive

1499
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 2: to at least have the chance to reconcile with that.

1500
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 2: Maybe she would have understood that she was wrong, but

1501
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 2: we'll never know. As you said, finding fault pointing to

1502
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 2: problems is easy. Too Many people think that they are

1503
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,879
Speaker 2: showing critical thinking when they can do that. From opinions

1504
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 2: to entertainment to politics, this kind of practice is evident

1505
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 2: all over the place. Maybe it's our ability to google

1506
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: everything we ever wanted to know in every opinion on

1507
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 2: that thing.

1508
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1509
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 2: I think finding a solution to the problems we see

1510
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 2: is definitely a great thing, But solutions don't come EASi

1511
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 2: or quick. Yeah, it's a lot a lot easier to

1512
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 2: describe a problem in depth than it is to say

1513
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 2: and this like you solve it, because a lot of

1514
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,919
Speaker 2: times what I realized when I talk about.

1515
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 3: These issues is there's no easy or quick or sometimes

1516
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 3: there is no answer right.

1517
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 2: And I think that scares people to get to the conclusion,

1518
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 2: so they revel in the problem more than they revel

1519
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 2: in the fact that there's not an answer that's gonna

1520
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 2: come and there's not gonna be a right way to

1521
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 2: get it done. And I think that scares people because

1522
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 2: they don't want to think about that shit, which is

1523
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 2: essentially it's depressing, you know what I mean. Nobody want

1524
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 2: to feel that depressing wave of like, yo, this shit

1525
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 2: has been fucked up my whole life and before my

1526
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 2: life and generations before that, and it's not gonna get

1527
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 2: fixed by the time I die.

1528
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 3: So what do we do as we work towards that?

1529
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 2: Because speaking for myself, the fuck you forever attitude is

1530
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 2: burdensome and takes too much investment that I'd rather be

1531
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 2: putting towards creating or progressing. Maybe we should think more

1532
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 2: about reconciliation along the way, the ability to hold the

1533
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 2: good and the bad and the ugly and dynamic tension,

1534
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 2: or maybe just stop thinking in such binary terms when

1535
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 2: it comes to people. Again, I'm searching, by the way,

1536
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying this as a black that queer woman. Hey man,

1537
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 2: I don't have any easy answer cause like one of

1538
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 2: the things I say, like think about where we go,

1539
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 2: or sometimes she says shit that I'm just like, I

1540
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 2: can't believe you think that right, And then sometimes she

1541
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: says shit, well, I'm just like that is so on

1542
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 2: point D L.

1543
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 3: Hughey.

1544
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 2: Sometimes he'll say shit about black women that I found

1545
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 2: like inflammatory, disgusting and just so much hate, Like I

1546
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 2: can't believe a person would go on the radio and

1547
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 2: be proud of themselves to say that shit, and you know,

1548
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 2: sometimes he apologize.

1549
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 3: Sometimes he hasn't.

1550
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 2: All this stuff, but then he'll go on Fox News

1551
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 2: or something and speak so eloquently and whatnot.

1552
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 3: People are complex, right.

1553
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 4: We're very, very complex.

1554
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 6: And the thing about it, in the society of fuck

1555
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 6: you forever, you don't allow people to grow, people to change,

1556
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:55,839
Speaker 6: people evolve, people to get educated.

1557
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 4: That's that's not allowed.

1558
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 6: It's like if people take a snapshot and that's you

1559
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 6: for the rest of your life, and you're like, but

1560
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 6: I don't even think the way I thought when I

1561
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 6: was twenty two, and people go, nah, fuck you and

1562
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 6: you're like, Okay, this makes no sense.

1563
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 2: Flee says, is that bull semen sniff sniff It is

1564
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 2: a good gracious my reals, my cheeks, Rod, you would

1565
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 2: be the death of me. So glad I discovered this podcast.

1566
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:22,719
Speaker 2: Karen Hay, sweetie, what's happening?

1567
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 3: Then they put what's happening here? Lol? Yes, Air Hugs.

1568
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 2: I appreciate all that you both do with the podcast.

1569
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 2: Your much need to voice in the space, Mark says.

1570
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 2: Once again, Rod challenges people on the limits to their activism.

1571
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: When you asked whether people would support the former Clueless

1572
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 2: actress and currently clueless human if she were inappropriately killed

1573
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 2: by the police, it really caused me to think about it. Ultimately,

1574
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 2: you and Karen made valid points. I would be outraged

1575
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 2: by the action even if it happened to her. Speaking

1576
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 2: of challenge, what kind of research with Bernie Sanders getting

1577
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 2: to think black people were so loyal to Hillary?

1578
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 3: All those times he showed up on a nightly show?

1579
01:13:59,040 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 3: Did he even watched?

1580
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 4: Was he right?

1581
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 3: Niggas?

1582
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 2: Was chim on like he was like the kid that

1583
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 2: never wins in basketball, but he was trying to hit

1584
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 2: a shot, like and it was senior night. Like everybody

1585
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 2: was like, come on, Ernie, we know you could do it.

1586
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 4: Pulling there right?

1587
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:18,560
Speaker 3: Was he too scared to be in a room with

1588
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:19,759
Speaker 3: too much melon in the summit.

1589
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 2: It reminds me of how television and movie executives had

1590
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 2: to be reminded every ten years or so that Black

1591
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: people watch a lot of TV and go to a

1592
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 2: lot of movies. All kinds of researcher is available, but

1593
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 2: they insist on thinking that black people just sit around

1594
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 2: and watch judge maths and only eat at Popeye's and

1595
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 2: pay for with their rush cards.

1596
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:38,879
Speaker 3: When they work right, when they work.

1597
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 2: Aj the engineer said, So if I like PlayStation and

1598
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 2: get killed by the cops, but woul an Xbox support

1599
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: to have a valid reason to not post anything about me,

1600
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: That's how petty I see this going. If people were

1601
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 2: getting to pick and choose who they support based on

1602
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 2: their own beliefs. Yes, Alton Sterling didn't have the best record,

1603
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 2: but none of us knew that when we first saw

1604
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 2: the gas station video. Sondra Bland has some bad thoughts

1605
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 2: on gay people, but I don't think that gives any

1606
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 2: validity to that asshole cop yanking her out of the car.

1607
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 2: I think it'll lower to impact the Black lives matter

1608
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 2: if we pick and choose who the morning after these killings.

1609
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 6: I agree that people can say what they want to

1610
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 6: about that, but I one hundred percent agree.

1611
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 4: Do all lives matter or they don't?

1612
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mean all black lives.

1613
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 4: All black lives matter or they don't, That's what I

1614
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 4: mean by that.

1615
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1616
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 2: I don't know how you solve it, and I don't

1617
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 2: know what to say because it ain't simple for me,

1618
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 2: Like I feel like, I feel like in order for

1619
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 2: that to be a cause, simplicity is needed when it

1620
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 2: comes to these hashtags.

1621
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 3: And shit, but it clearly is not what everybody else

1622
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 3: is at.

1623
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: So once I see that, I feel like I would

1624
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 2: be lying to just be like, well, y'all just get

1625
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 2: over it. Apparently people ain't even using the hashtags that

1626
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 2: way the entire time. I just I just got hip

1627
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 2: the game seventy two hours ago.

1628
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 4: Right that. And also, just because.

1629
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 6: You say black lives matter, you're not saying that they

1630
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 6: didn't make errows, didn't make mistakes and have fun like,

1631
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 6: You're not saying that, And it does not excuse them

1632
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 6: for the fucked up shit that they did. I think

1633
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 6: a lot of people go, well, just because you said,

1634
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 6: you're excusing it, no, no, no, I'm saying.

1635
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 4: The way they died was fucked up.

1636
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 6: How they lived it was a whole nother thing. But

1637
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 6: the way that this person lost their life unjustly is

1638
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 6: the problem.

1639
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:29,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

1640
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 2: I agree, Like that's how I use my Twitter and

1641
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 2: my social media and when we talk about it on

1642
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 2: the show. But at the same time, I understand if

1643
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, I understand because I've seen

1644
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 2: people say like that we're talking bad about this guy

1645
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 2: that when I was like, well, what about if it

1646
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 2: was Stacy dash I'm not fucking marching for Stacy Dash

1647
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 2: fuck her. Oh well then yeah, Well then it's the

1648
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 2: same principle, this person not. You can't call this person

1649
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 2: wrong if you believe some similar shit, you can't. So

1650
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 2: if most of y'all people really do believe like certain

1651
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 2: black lives like that you don't fuck with because of

1652
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 2: their opinions, yeah, then yes that does apply.

1653
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 3: And you can't deny that it's a thing. I won't

1654
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 3: deny that it's a thing.

1655
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 2: If Alton Sterling is a rapist that has sex with

1656
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 2: a fourteen year old when he was twenty, some people

1657
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 2: might have an issue with that. Yes, some people might

1658
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 2: want to talk about that, and you can't silence them

1659
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 2: and shut them down on some like well, you're trying

1660
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:30,759
Speaker 2: to distract and be divisive.

1661
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 3: No, some people are capable of holding two thoughts and

1662
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 3: they add at the same time. Though.

1663
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 2: The thing for me is I'm capable of saying, yeah,

1664
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 2: that was fucked up and the cop shouldn't have killed him.

1665
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 2: But at the same time, some people aren't, and you

1666
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 2: just gotta deal with that. Man, some people ain't never

1667
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 2: gonna come around, And that's what it is. The poe was,

1668
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 2: would you promote the name of a black person who

1669
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 2: was killed by police. If you handed to things they

1670
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 2: said when they were alive, yes, no.

1671
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:58,799
Speaker 3: Or I don't use hashtags already.

1672
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 2: Four percent of people don't even use the hashtags period,

1673
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 2: so you know, maybe they're not on social media, maybe

1674
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 2: they just don't like that, like say their name blah blah.

1675
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 2: Fifteen percent said no, I would not promote the name

1676
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 2: of some person that you know got killed. Then I

1677
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 2: don't and I didn't agree with what they did when

1678
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 2: they weren't lie and forty percent said yes. So basically,

1679
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 2: if you just take the forget the nose, I mean

1680
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 2: the people that don't ever use hashtags, but take the

1681
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 2: people who who do use hashtags, there's basically about twenty

1682
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 2: six percent of people that say I don't hashtag people

1683
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 2: I don't fuck with period dead or lie or dead.

1684
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 3: Really, you can only be dead. Ali says this one

1685
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 3: is weird for me.

1686
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 2: On one, I had had out on the one hand,

1687
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 2: had I think, oh, On the one hand, I think

1688
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 2: maybe I could promote a hashtag for Stacey Dash she

1689
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 2: was killed by leads, because I could see how and

1690
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 2: why she was internalizing white supremacy to make her say

1691
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 2: the ignorant things she says. I don't agree with what

1692
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 2: she says, and like you all pointed out on the show,

1693
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 2: maybe she can change.

1694
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 3: Keep my fingers crossed.

1695
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: But then, when I think about Bill Cozzy, I absolutely

1696
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 2: could not promote him if he were unlawfully killed by

1697
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 2: the police. It doesn't mean that I think the police

1698
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 2: should be allowed to get away with killing him. I

1699
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 2: would still want him and his family have justice, and

1700
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 2: I would want those police officers try to put in prison.

1701
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 2: But in no way would I personally feel right about

1702
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 2: my using my online space and platform, no matter how

1703
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 2: small it may be to sympathize with a man who

1704
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 2: calls so many women so much harm. There you go,

1705
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 2: So can somebody be down with the movement but not

1706
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 2: down with the person being upheld At the moment, I

1707
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 2: think the person who was bashing signed to blaind messed

1708
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 2: up because they went out of their way to muck

1709
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 2: up her name when that's not even the point in

1710
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 2: promoting it. Promoting his bland was a personal conflict they

1711
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 2: could have said. They could have very well said nothing.

1712
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 2: But then again, I do think about the way the

1713
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 2: mainstream has basically alienated the lgbt Q community from the movement,

1714
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 2: and as a straight black woman, I can admit that

1715
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 2: I don't know what that feels like. So hey, maybe

1716
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 2: they were in the right, but speaking out against Sandra Blain,

1717
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess there's no simple answer here. Yeah,

1718
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 2: ain't no simple answer. Dog, it's not because I mean

1719
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 2: you did, like you just said yourself. Man, you couldn't

1720
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 2: do it for Bill Cozy. You couldn't see yourself doing it.

1721
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 2: I could see somebody feeling that way about Sondra Blanne.

1722
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,799
Speaker 3: You know, like, yo, the shit you said was horrible,

1723
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 3: And as far.

1724
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 2: As I'm concerned, I only do this shit for people

1725
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 2: that I respect and love when they were alive and

1726
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 2: that loved me back and stuff, and so I won't

1727
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 2: do it for you.

1728
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 3: That being said, I don't know what the line.

1729
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 6: Is because.

1730
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 3: Freddie Gray could have could have been calling people all

1731
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 3: kinds of names. We just ain't no, you know, I

1732
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 3: don't know.

1733
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, But shit, that's something to think about,

1734
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 2: right If it was Bill Cosey, would y'all be using

1735
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 2: Bill Cosey's would y'all.

1736
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 3: Be they say his name? I don't think. I don't

1737
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:00,080
Speaker 3: think of y'all, will.

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01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,719
Speaker 2: Amani says, for me, this is no different than police

1739
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,560
Speaker 2: or media telling us the next black person who was

1740
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 2: murdered by the police was no angel and dragging their

1741
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 2: name through the month.

1742
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 3: I'm not telling other people what to do or how

1743
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 3: to handle it.

1744
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 2: But I can't think of any situation where a white

1745
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 2: person was extra judiciously killed by the state that I

1746
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 2: wouldn't feel like a hypocrite if I didn't a man

1747
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 2: justice in due process. That doesn't mean I'm holding them

1748
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 2: up for praising their name, but I can't let the

1749
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 2: system out the hook when the person is a piece

1750
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Speaker 2: of shit.

1751
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he says, if it was an outspoken.

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01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 2: Coon like Charles Rockley and Stacey Dashed, I'd be like

1753
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 2: Mariah Carey, I don't know them because number one, if

1754
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 2: the cops killed them according to their logic, they deserved it, right?

1755
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 5: Is that wrong?

1756
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 3: Probably? But my petty is too strong, And.

1757
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate you being honest about it, all right,

1758
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: And let's see twelve forty four and White People News.

1759
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 2: We had Brandon and Justin on a medium popcorn we

1760
01:21:54,600 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 2: yall too nig Us falling move and Rosalie says, pronounced

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01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 2: just like the Underground character Get it Oh, Rosalie, get

1762
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 2: it Robbed. That's that's their whole name on this on

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01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 2: the website, Rosalie pronounced just like the Uh wait it

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01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 2: is Rosalie.

1765
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 3: Rosalie pronounced just like the character on Underground, Get It

1766
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 3: Robbed as their whole name.

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01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 2: Uh, where's the neither button? For today's pole? I know right,

1768
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 2: I voted for. Oh yeah, the poll was who you

1769
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 2: with Katie Perry Taylor Swift. Adrian says, I know right,

1770
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 2: I voted for. I voted for Katie just because I'll

1771
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 2: never trust Taylor Swift with her crafted cracker ass Uh

1772
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 2: and Big Daddy too, says fuck Charles Barkley. He is

1773
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 2: a modern day Sam Jackson on Jango. When he says

1774
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 2: the black people I know died from other black people

1775
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 2: he means, he means racy, trash and don lemngrab because

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01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 2: they are the only black people who ride with him.

1777
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 2: All he needs to add was massive being so good

1778
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 2: to us. You know you fucking up when you sound

1779
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 2: like Gollin from Lord of the Rings. Ooh, Massa Frodo

1780
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 2: is a wise and good master. He only killed goblin

1781
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 2: because goblins kill each other.

1782
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 3: That was my golum h.

1783
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 2: Mark says, thank you for bringing in the medium popcorn. Guys,

1784
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 2: my podcast list has been getting darker and darker since

1785
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 2: discovering TVGWT, and I'm great with that. Meanwhile, though, I

1786
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 2: can't decide whether Barkley's problem is that he's been white

1787
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 2: people's favorite analyst for way too long or it's because

1788
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,679
Speaker 2: he's older and disn't realized that the respectable Negro playbook

1789
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 2: is no longer required and never fully worked. If we

1790
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 2: are being honest, not every black person with status appears

1791
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 2: on Capitol One as and Jimmy fallon sketches Chuck, Hey,

1792
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 2: white people love some Charles Barkley man. I mean, remember

1793
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 2: he was gonna run as a Republican when he was

1794
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 2: gonna run for office, even he says, Charles Barkley has

1795
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,560
Speaker 2: been Stacey dashing before Stacey needed to check, So it

1796
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 2: comes to no surprise that he'd make those bullshit comments.

1797
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 2: That's why he never want to ring because the universe

1798
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 2: hates HIMISOA white hashtag Petty on fleet Her Petty week

1799
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 2: has been petty powers have been super saying in a

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Speaker 2: j Injine says, thanks for continually letting us know about

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01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 2: the other good shows out here in podcast land. After

1802
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 2: this show, subscribed to start listening to Medium Popcorns Star

1803
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 2: Wars episode with Chris Lamb that was laughing out loud

1804
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: at how much they loved those white starlets, doesn't he

1805
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 2: Chris Lamber, m M, it's a shame.

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01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 4: Uhh? Who you with?

1807
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 3: Taylor Swive for Katy Perry? Was the poll?

1808
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 2: Ninety one percent y'all voted for Katy Perry, and now

1809
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 2: I'm persenting y'all vote for Taylor Swift. Mark says, all

1810
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 2: it takes is for someone to be in the spotlight

1811
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 2: for too long before people started tearing down with the

1812
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 2: people they built up. Oh well, bye, take take even

1813
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,719
Speaker 2: He says, I have hated Taylor Swift for a long time.

1814
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,560
Speaker 3: I believe I even wrote in about her once to

1815
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:53,600
Speaker 3: say how much I disliked her.

1816
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 2: I haven't liked her since Kanye the Kanye incident, and

1817
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,600
Speaker 2: I'm not really that big a fan of Kanye. I

1818
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 2: think he ripped the mic out of her hand. I

1819
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 2: think when he ripped the mic out of her hands

1820
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 2: was uncool.

1821
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 3: But how she's seen the milk the hell out of

1822
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 3: it ever since just kind of struck a nerve with me.

1823
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 2: There's something extremely funny about her, like that fake shock

1824
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 2: when she wins an award, and how she cheers for

1825
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 2: her friends when they win awards, like she's happy for them.

1826
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 2: That squad bullshit, and that weird dancing to hers. A

1827
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 2: lot of it also has to deal with how she's

1828
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 2: held up as the perfect feminist and she has this, uh,

1829
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 2: she has this. Women who don't help each other are

1830
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 2: real feminist mentality. Fuck her, fake as phony Tea and

1831
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 2: Katie all the way. She's another one who could take

1832
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 2: a long walk off a short pier, all.

1833
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 3: Right, stumbling onto something with this white people know, well,

1834
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 3: you know you guys felt so passionately.

1835
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 4: I know we might have to bring y'all more.

1836
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 3: I know about the folks.

1837
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 4: All right, let's get into two comments.

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01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 2: On Those are the comments on the poe, wasn't it then?

1839
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 2: I just read the comments on the pone.

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Speaker 6: Oh, the two comments on the pole, like, I know

1841
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 6: you had it open, but did you go into the

1842
01:25:58,800 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 6: pole itself?

1843
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was exactly what I just read the comments

1844
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 3: on the phone.

1845
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I wanted to be showing.

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01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 3: Two people love comments, And those are the two comments.

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01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:08,560
Speaker 4: I just read okay, no time. I wanted to be

1848
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 4: sure because ive seen and I.

1849
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,879
Speaker 2: Know if you clicked in my bad Back the Backseat

1850
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 2: podcast and look at you, that's all good.

1851
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 3: It's all good. We had a couple of voicemails. Let

1852
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 3: me play those for the folk.

1853
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 8: Hey, we start Ron and Karen. This is uh jay Full.

1854
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 8: I've always loved the show. I just found out that

1855
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 8: you can call the show from the show notes on ours.

1856
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 8: That's radio, so I don't have to rememberize the number,

1857
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 8: and I can always leave a voicemail. So I was

1858
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 8: listening to the Presidential Clippers episode with Ray Honi and

1859
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 8: Alex and loved it. But you got just talking about

1860
01:26:55,439 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 8: Obama and his barber. A fun little fact. You know,

1861
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 8: a Walker and Company, the people that do Bevil, they

1862
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 8: have a pair of clippers that they're that it came

1863
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 8: out with are slowly you know, rolling out and they're

1864
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 8: fulfilling pre orders. But President Obama's barber actually uses those clippers. So,

1865
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,799
Speaker 8: just in case his barber situation couldn't get any blacker,

1866
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 8: he is using black owned and black created clippers. And

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01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 8: for the people listening to this, to this voicemail. If

1868
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 8: you haven't seen the promos for the Walker and Company clippers.

1869
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 8: They look pretty amazing. They are expensive, but from everything

1870
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 8: I've read about them, they are worth the money, so

1871
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 8: I'm definitely gonna check them out once once they go live,

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01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 8: totally once the pre orders are fulfilled. But you just

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01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 8: wanted to drop that tidbit on you guys. Anyway, love

1874
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 8: the show. Can't wait till tomorrow's up. So I'm kind

1875
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 8: of mad that I listened to the Sunday episode on

1876
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 8: Sunday because now I got to find out what I'm

1877
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 8: going to do at work today on Monday. But uh, anyway,

1878
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 8: keep up the good work and love you guys.

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01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 2: Peace all right, pee, thank you, and yeah, we did

1880
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 2: know that everybody told us throughout the week, but we

1881
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 2: appreciate you telling us again.

1882
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 3: Can't ever hear that enough. Thank you.

1883
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 8: Last voicemail, Hey guys, this is Charlotte.

1884
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 1: I am here in Oakland, California. It is about six

1885
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 1: point forty in the morning because this is the only

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01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 1: time that I have to myself until about four o'clock

1887
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 1: when when my little one goes to sleep. Hey, I'm

1888
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 1: calling just to say that I really love you guys, ahole.

1889
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:04,799
Speaker 1: Watch the moments that I listened to you guys about gosh,

1890
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:09,719
Speaker 1: maybe about a year and a half ago Christmas twenty fourteen,

1891
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 1: just till now, and just the impact that you guys

1892
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: have had on my mental health and my actual physical being.

1893
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 1: I went through an extremely rough time in my life,

1894
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 1: was basically homeless, and I posted a plea to everyone

1895
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: on my personal Facebook. Rod saw that took upon himself

1896
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 1: to set that information, of course, asked me very politely

1897
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 1: if it was all right, and I said yes, And

1898
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 1: I was actually able to have a home and have

1899
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: some piece of mind because of Rod and Karen and

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01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 1: fun and really thank you.

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01:29:58,520 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 5: For that.

1902
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: It's I can't find the words to express the importance

1903
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 1: that you all.

1904
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 8: Have in my life.

1905
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 4: My entire.

1906
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 8: Everything is just.

1907
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 1: Here for Queen, Karen and Rodin is prime and uh,

1908
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 1: I'll fight y'all. I'll fight for the streets y'all. Anyway,

1909
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 1: I am just enjoying the latest podcast and I hope

1910
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 1: this voice too long, and I hope I can talk

1911
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 1: to you again.

1912
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 3: And black lives matter, and no, you do not have

1913
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 3: to fight in the street for us. Okay, we are

1914
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 3: going to try to keep very peaceful.

1915
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 6: Uh.

1916
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 3: We are more like peacetime army people, Okay, we we

1917
01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 3: prefer diplomacy. Okay, no, no, no fighting in the streets streets.

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01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 2: Everyone, but yeah, thank you, and uh yeah, I didn't

1919
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 2: mind sharing that information at all. Uh you know, try

1920
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 2: to use our audience to do positive things. I know

1921
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 2: there's only so much and that people can do, and

1922
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 2: I don't want to make people like exhausted.

1923
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to turn our.

1924
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 2: Facebook group into like the charity of the day type thing,

1925
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 2: because I'm sure that'll bum a lot of people out.

1926
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 2: But in general, you know, sometimes people go through some

1927
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 2: really hard times or they go through like crisis and stuff,

1928
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 2: and you know, I don't mind, you know, at least

1929
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 2: spreading the word that way.

1930
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 3: And I think people help what they can.

1931
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 2: Man, you know, like we fans and friends and shit,

1932
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 2: but you know it's also kind of family, so true.

1933
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 2: All right, now, we will probably have to extend this

1934
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 2: session to a new one so we can get through

1935
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,600
Speaker 2: the emails. But you just let me know when it

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01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 2: gets the one twenty and I'll switch over. Okay, Okay,

1937
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 2: so fans will started in a session in the second,

1938
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 2: but just like I'm gonna try to read as much

1939
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,679
Speaker 2: as I can real rights saying for the Feedback show.

1940
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 2: When you mentioned that you would be doing a sport

1941
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 2: move review on the Secret Life of Past with your niece,

1942
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 2: I was excited to listen. I took my son and

1943
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 2: a few family members to see it last weekend. We

1944
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 2: really enjoyed it. Also, after hearing the show, I had

1945
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 2: to write and to tell you guys how much I

1946
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 2: loved hearing your niece. What a smart, funny, quick witted girl.

1947
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 2: She is a great sense of humor. Must running tomorrow,

1948
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 2: bloodline Listen.

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01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:26,839
Speaker 4: She got that from her grandpa.

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Speaker 3: She is so funny, y'all, Like real she is. I'm

1951
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 3: not just saying that because she can.

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Speaker 5: No.

1953
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 4: She is a funny little girl, and I think she's

1954
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 4: been funny for a very very long time. Ever since

1955
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 4: she was small. She would just say jokes and everybody

1956
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 4: would crack up laughing.

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Speaker 6: And when she was young, she didn't have the concept

1958
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 6: of joke and comedy instruction and things like that, so

1959
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 6: she would bust out crying that we was laughing at her.

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Speaker 4: But now she understands the concept of jokes. She can

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Speaker 4: craft her own jokes. She been on five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, comedy is a you know, I think a form

1963
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 2: of until, you know, because you have to be creative

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Speaker 2: and stuff. She's very creative and very smart, and we'll

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Speaker 2: have conversations and we joked back and forth, and you know,

1966
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Speaker 2: we watched Teen Titans.

1967
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Speaker 3: Her favorite character is Raving, and she really does fit.

1968
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Speaker 2: She's Raving, Like her attitude is just like Raven sarcastic, smart, witty, you.

1969
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Speaker 3: Know, always like always reading. Yeah, I always got something

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Speaker 3: to say, man, and uh yeah you know that.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's also enjoyable to be around her as

1972
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Speaker 2: well because I share that same kind of sense of humor.

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Speaker 2: Her mother's funny like that as well, you know, so

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Speaker 2: I know she gets a lot of that from her

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Speaker 2: mom and my dad and my brother. So like, you know,

1976
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Speaker 2: she's surrounded by a bunch of funny people. She's damn

1977
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 2: near a comedian at this point, because sometimes I'll say

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01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 2: something funny to her and instead of laughing, she'll say,

1979
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 2: that's funny, which, if you guys know anything about comedians

1980
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Speaker 2: that like comedians even when they're like, oh, that's really good,

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Speaker 2: like I instead of a spontaneous if you know, only

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01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 2: get that's funny.

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Speaker 3: Trip.

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Speaker 2: As a relations to social media and current events I've had,

1985
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 2: I've decided to take a break. I just don't have

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01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 2: the ability or desire to deal with the Facebook foolishness

1987
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 2: right now. I started dancing in my seat when I

1988
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:14,599
Speaker 2: heard the intro the five Star check on Monday Show.

1989
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 2: Then my next thought was, oh good, we get to

1990
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Speaker 2: hear hate nas Terrell Jones thoughts on the matter. Last

1991
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,559
Speaker 2: thing I got in my daughter's car recently, and guess

1992
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 2: whose versus voices I heard? Yep, Robin Lady Karen Jay

1993
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Speaker 2: I am, I am out here looking. I'm out here

1994
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 2: doing the lord's work, building up y'all's numbers. But seriously, though,

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Speaker 2: thank you for putting in work to keep me entertained

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Speaker 2: while I work on my only TPS support signed the

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Speaker 2: official grandmother of the show for real.

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 4: Oh thank you, sweetie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. Soing on Twitter also told me that

2001
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 2: I'm not doing this session, But so on Twitter told

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01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 2: me like my eight year old son loves y'all.

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01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 4: I was like, what.

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01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 3: Should he be listening?

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01:34:57,920 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 4: I know he's still need efpijacks. What's happen?

2006
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,560
Speaker 3: All right? I feel like I feel like this is

2007
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 3: not okay.

2008
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 2: So all right, I'm gonna create a new session, invite

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Speaker 2: everybody over to take a second.

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Speaker 3: Guy, So see here do you know and don't forget

2011
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:16,559
Speaker 3: you are still listening to the Quiet Storm?

2012
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Speaker 7: Watch yeah, body roll, body.

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Speaker 3: Roll, watch.

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01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 4: Very real long.

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Speaker 3: Trying to get my curtains up to be so strong.

2016
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 3: I really want to meet you, okay, c sure kind

2017
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 3: of way that it was so much class thinking of

2018
01:35:56,160 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 3: your job in my thomp together Verna to day when

2019
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 3: I see your thing, I forget what to say, Yo,

2020
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 3: eyes and such. Up you the boat.

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Speaker 4: The way.

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01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 3: Loom we really turns me on.

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01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 4: Come on, come on, come on, come and talk to me. Hey,

2024
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 4: I really all right? All right this was dedicated Dion right,

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Speaker 4: yeah to Keisha.

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01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 3: This goes, This goes after Keisha. Marcus says he'll be

2027
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 3: out of prison soon, and when it is, it's on

2028
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 3: because he wants to come and talk to you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you won't know your name, maybe your friends do.

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Speaker 2: Episode twelve forty three Mephis broke tony're right saying, dear

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Speaker 2: Rod and Karen, thank you for taking time to record

2032
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Speaker 2: your podcast.

2033
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 3: You're truly your lifesaver.

2034
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 2: I'm always traveling on the road due to my job,

2035
01:36:57,920 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 2: and therefore I'm always in my car, my second home.

2036
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,600
Speaker 2: Thank goodness, I could tune in and listen to your podcast.

2037
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 2: On another note, as Rod says, I have to respond

2038
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:09,799
Speaker 2: to the very insensitive, ignorant, and arrogant comments of Martha Stewart.

2039
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,600
Speaker 2: I know you guys said to ignore ignorant comments, but

2040
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:13,680
Speaker 2: I just couldn't let this go.

2041
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:14,759
Speaker 4: You couldn't.

2042
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 2: I've received my BA and m A from a private

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01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 2: college and private university. Upon graduating, I crewed nearly two

2044
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 2: hundred Wait a minute, for the record, I said, ignored

2045
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 2: the ignorant comments of your friends and people that harass

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01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:30,720
Speaker 2: you on social media. We wouldn't have a show if

2047
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 2: we ignored ingnurant comments. What the fuck are we were

2048
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 2: doing for a week? Can you imagine the show would

2049
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 2: be born as fuck? I'm ready on the show because

2050
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 2: it was ignorant, I ain't.

2051
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 3: Ignoring it, so yeah.

2052
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 2: Upon graduating, I crew nearly two hundred thousand dollars a

2053
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 2: student loan that after receiving my BA m A from

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01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:51,680
Speaker 2: a private college and private university. After a few years,

2055
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,719
Speaker 2: I consolidated my federal loans, which made my life somewhat easier. However,

2056
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 2: I still have a private loan and that offers no

2057
01:37:57,120 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 2: flexible loan repayment plans. I eat income based paid as

2058
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 2: you earn income contingent plans. Regarding my monthly bills, I

2059
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 2: pay about six hundred dollars a month.

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Speaker 3: On my student loans.

2061
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 2: I damn baby not to mention my car, no consurance,

2062
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 2: cable bill, cellphone bill, food gas, and of course church offerings.

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01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 3: Yes, the lord needs his chin. My bill is high,

2064
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:21,640
Speaker 3: and my bills are high, and thankfully I don't have

2065
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 3: to pay rent, although I did one time.

2066
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 2: My mom looked at me like I lost my mind. However,

2067
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 2: I do contribute to other household bills. Absolutely. Yes, I

2068
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,679
Speaker 2: reside with my parents. I'm quite thankful to have parents

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01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 2: who are very willing to continue to open their home

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01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 2: to me. There's no way I will be able to

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01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 2: survive renting in the apartment at this time in my

2072
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 2: life unless I had a roommate, which I do not want.

2073
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 2: I experienced roommates in college, and I'm not looking back.

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01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 2: My mom said I could live with her forever and

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01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 2: if needed now. Of course, eventually my salary regrowd and

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01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 2: as I continue to grow within my chosen career field,

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01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 2: and I'll be.

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Speaker 3: Able to avoid a place on my own. I have

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01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 3: to put in my dues, just like my fellow colleagues

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01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 3: who have been in the field for ten plus years

2081
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 3: and now have a comfortable salary.

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01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 2: Although I had to share a little background info so

2083
01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 2: you have a better understanding where I'm coming from. Now,

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01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 2: getting back to the point, this statement is for Martha

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01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 2: Stewart and anyone else who thinks recent college graduates millennials

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01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 2: are too lazy to move out of their parents has

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01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 2: to get a good job. Please do not tell me

2088
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 2: that I'm lazy and I don't have the initiative of work.

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01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 2: That remark was so offensive and degrading for her to say.

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01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 2: Doesn't she know that college grads want a place of

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01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 2: that I own the call home. Doesn't she know most

2092
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 2: college grads have an extensive and overwhelming amount of student

2093
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 2: loan that doesn't she know that a recent college grad

2094
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:32,639
Speaker 2: who enters a workplace, hopefully in their chosen career field,

2095
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 2: will start at base salary. Doesn't she know a recent

2096
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 2: college grad who may have a master's degree can possibly

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01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 2: be unemployed for a period of time due to a

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01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 2: lack of work experience. Again, please don't tell me that

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01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 2: I'm lazy. I didn't spend six and a half years

2100
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 2: in college to be called lazy. It takes time to

2101
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 2: build a stable and strong career, and I know I'm

2102
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 2: doing my very best to make sure that happens.

2103
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:53,639
Speaker 3: I have life goals or career goals. I have a plan.

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01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:55,640
Speaker 2: I don't need anyone critique and the criticize of my

2105
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 2: college degrees, my career field, or whom I live with.

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01:39:58,439 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 2: Thank you for reading my response to Thank you for

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01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 2: providing the outlet that allows people to voice their concerns

2108
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 2: and opinions.

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Speaker 3: Have a beautiful and blessed day. PS. I can't wait

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01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:06,600
Speaker 3: till the Walking There returns and.

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Speaker 4: Hear your recap show no hand clapping emotions in that.

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01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 3: I feel like it was.

2113
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 2: All like they were just uh, you just assume like

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01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:17,560
Speaker 2: they are in there you're feeling in yourself, feel like

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01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 2: everyone listening was clapping the whole totel.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and baby, thank you for the book. What

2117
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:24,200
Speaker 4: books you sent that comic book?

2118
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 2: No, that's not that, No, this is Tonya Tanya W

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01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 2: sent us a comic book, right, and my man Hustle

2120
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 2: send us some Mumbo sauce and we got some Trio

2121
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 2: tea which you've been drinking.

2122
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:39,679
Speaker 3: I think you haven't even talked.

2123
01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:45,560
Speaker 4: About it's good. It smells wonderful.

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01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 2: All right, we're talking about it tomorrow and depth on

2125
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 2: the show. But you they they sent us some trill

2126
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:53,599
Speaker 2: tea and Karven drinking it up and they ain't even

2127
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 2: said the word, just been drinking the tea.

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Speaker 3: Just the people was like, you know, if you like

2129
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 3: the team, maybe you can mentioned on.

2130
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 2: The show Canvas every episode drinking your tea sipping in

2131
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 2: the background.

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01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 3: I'll say this man for Arthur Stewart, the.

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01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 2: Millennials, she know, probably her kids and don't live and

2134
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 2: don't then maybe they are lazy because they her kids.

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01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 3: I don't know, what does she know? You know what

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01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 3: I mean?

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01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 2: People do that ship through the lens of age. They

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01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 2: judge the current generation. It's worse than them. But man,

2139
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 2: I'm in When I was in college, checking the mail

2140
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:28,320
Speaker 2: was a day, you know what I mean. I gotta

2141
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 2: check them hell the post office.

2142
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:33,679
Speaker 4: I gotta walk a half a block.

2143
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:36,600
Speaker 3: I gotta go that class now, you know.

2144
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 2: Right, why summer break out. I'll be so short, like

2145
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:43,759
Speaker 2: we all come from the same ship.

2146
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:45,680
Speaker 3: And it's not fair.

2147
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 2: Somebody call you lazy, and it's funny because you one

2148
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 2: of these advice people like her probably.

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01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 3: Would have said that people living with their parents to

2150
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 3: save money with smart you know correct, pay your loans

2151
01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 3: back and ship. Rob Wright saying the song is back.

2152
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:03,680
Speaker 2: Just glad to hear the guest ray song the way

2153
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 2: it was intended, with the butter with the button boom

2154
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 2: that makes the work day better.

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01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:13,680
Speaker 3: Y'all keep doing what you do, care and that's all

2156
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 3: you you so man, you know.

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01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 2: Brandon says feedback, Hey, Rod and Karen b sayings here,

2158
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 2: just wanted to share some general feedback about the show.

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01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:24,679
Speaker 2: When you recently traveled at Awesome Con, Rod, you mentioned

2160
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:26,720
Speaker 2: the positive impact that the show has had on so

2161
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 2: many people and how much is needed. You couldn't have

2162
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 2: been more accurate, and I want to say thank you

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01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 2: for all the amazing work you both do.

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01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Last year was probably the most difficult year of my life,

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01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 2: losing my grandfather and brother within six months of each other.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Sorry to hear that, But it was through this podcast

2169
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 2: and countless others I found through this show that I

2170
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 2: was able to find positive moments on some of my

2171
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 2: toughest days. I found new interest in comics that I

2172
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 2: never knew about. Shout out to the nerd. Hey keep up,

2173
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 2: keep up on sports and ratchetness through Ballsy Sports and

2174
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 2: I just saw the Secret Life of Pet Pet spoil

2175
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 2: movie reviews and many men any more things. Because of

2176
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 2: the show, you both feel like family even though we've

2177
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 2: never met. Loel is definitely an NC thing. Again, Thank

2178
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:09,880
Speaker 2: you for all you dude. Keep bringing quality content like

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01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:11,519
Speaker 2: I know you will, and I'll be here to laugh,

2180
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 2: listen to certainly learn.

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01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:15,680
Speaker 3: Love you guys. Be saying rest and peace, CJ and

2182
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 3: j L. Rest and peace man.

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01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:23,640
Speaker 2: And then last email, Joe writes in Joe in California,

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01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 2: No spoilers, Leslie Jones performance and Ghostbusters. Hi, Roder Karen

2185
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 2: love your show been listening for over a year now.

2186
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 2: I just wanted to give Rod some major credit for

2187
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:35,599
Speaker 2: calling it wright. About the reception of Jones by critics,

2188
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 2: I've read and watched a few reviews of Ghostbusters, and

2189
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:41,599
Speaker 2: pretty much everyone is saying Leslie is the best thing

2190
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 2: in the film. I saw the film myself, and I

2191
01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 2: think Jones, without a doubt, kept this film from being

2192
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 2: yet another failed reboot. Despite not being a scientist, she

2193
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:52,600
Speaker 2: is portrayed intelligent, capable, and important to the team. But

2194
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 2: most of all, she is hilarious and for the haters

2195
01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 2: who don't like her type of blackness, there is in

2196
01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 2: any moment one can honestly label tuning or playing up

2197
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 2: for a white audience.

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01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: I didn't love the film, but it's totally a fun

2200
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 2: and watchable movie. If you two end up seeing the film,

2201
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 2: please share what you thought. I especially want to hear

2202
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 2: what Karen thinks about the film because I love her

2203
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 2: unique perspective. Joe and California, well, we did share we

2204
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:19,760
Speaker 2: thought on the premium side, you know, on.

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01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 3: That board review.

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01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 2: We definitely talked about what we thought about the film.

2207
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 2: But yeah, on Thursday. But I mean we both gave it. Wait,

2208
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 2: I think I gave it a four and you gave

2209
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:34,720
Speaker 2: it a five, Right, Yeah, I loved it. Yeah, So,

2210
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:38,040
Speaker 2: I mean, and we talked about it in depth on

2211
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 2: the Nerd off with me, Chris and Sterling.

2212
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 3: I don't want to offend anybody, I really don't.

2213
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 2: But a lot of people's problems with Leslie Jones's problems

2214
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 2: they have with blackness and anti blackness within themselves.

2215
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:56,800
Speaker 3: And it ain't even all that deep for me, like

2216
01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 3: real talk with her.

2217
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 2: People talk a good game about wanting inclusion and wanting

2218
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 2: every kind of black woman to be celebrated as beautiful

2219
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 2: and talented and all that shit. But when the push

2220
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:10,600
Speaker 2: came down the shove, they didn't see any value in

2221
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 2: her or her character as long as she wasn't living

2222
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:16,560
Speaker 2: up to those white standards of not just beauty, but

2223
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 2: also in the movie, of having a certain level of education,

2224
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 2: as far as being a scientist or or speaking a

2225
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:26,200
Speaker 2: certain way or any of this shit. And as far

2226
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:30,719
Speaker 2: as I'm concerned, I think those people were just absolutely wrong.

2227
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 2: You know, there's nothing to be concerned about with her

2228
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:36,200
Speaker 2: role in the movie. I still stand behind what I said,

2229
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 2: which is I wish that universe, that movie universe. I

2230
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 2: don't understand why it's always got to be one of

2231
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 2: one thing, you know what I mean, Like, Okay, we

2232
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 2: got one of them's gay, one of them's black, one

2233
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:50,720
Speaker 2: of them, like, I don't understand why he couldn't, you know,

2234
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 2: be more black people in the universe, even if they're

2235
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:58,840
Speaker 2: not Ghostbusters. You know, they don't have a black friend,

2236
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:02,000
Speaker 2: they don't have a you know, no black love interests. No,

2237
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 2: you know, it's just the one black person in all

2238
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 2: of New York that joined the team. But and this

2239
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 2: isn't a knock on the movie, which we both thoroughly enjoyed,

2240
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 2: but it's just to me, that's where the problem lies

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01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 2: when it comes to blackness and representation. It's not that

2242
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 2: something's wrong with Leslie Jones, because ultimately, what a lot

2243
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:22,720
Speaker 2: of those people are saying is that Leslie Jones has

2244
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 2: a limitation to what she should be quote unquote allowed

2245
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 2: to do in Hollywood because after she gets to a

2246
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 2: certain level, they don't want to see her represented. But

2247
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 2: what people aren't really willing to understand and give deference

2248
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 2: to when they start talking that way, Leslie Jones isn't

2249
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 2: just a check mark on your fucking sheet of what

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Speaker 2: the latest big budget.

2251
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 3: Thing you hate is.

2252
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,960
Speaker 2: Okay, a lot of nerd culture is about hate and

2253
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 2: disliking things and breaking things down and telling you why

2254
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 2: it's not good and why it doesn't work. What I

2255
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,439
Speaker 2: do know is Leslie Jones, a forty eight year old woman,

2256
01:46:57,520 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 2: has fought her way to the spot and she deserves it, Okay,

2257
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 2: And if you were cool with her in Top Five,

2258
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:07,720
Speaker 2: ain't no fucking reason you shouldn't be cool with her

2259
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 2: in this movie. I'm sorry, because at that point, what

2260
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 2: you're really saying, is well, now white people are gonna

2261
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:14,640
Speaker 2: see this, so.

2262
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:20,679
Speaker 3: You know, white people listening to the show, so still

2263
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:22,720
Speaker 3: gonna be me every day. I'm not gonna come on

2264
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:24,920
Speaker 3: here and code switch and change up because of that,

2265
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 3: Like you old, get that up out of you.

2266
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 6: Man.

2267
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:33,879
Speaker 3: You don't owe anybody anything, you know, do you be yourself,

2268
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 3: celebrate yourself.

2269
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 2: And when I see Leslie Jones, I see a tall,

2270
01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 2: dark black woman with natural hair that people you know,

2271
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:46,679
Speaker 2: have given a hard time that it's forty eight years old.

2272
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 2: That makes me laugh so much, that loves herself so much.

2273
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 2: I don't know how anybody can't love her real talk,

2274
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 2: like something might be wrong with you know, Like.

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01:47:57,160 --> 01:48:01,759
Speaker 3: She's funny as fuck to me, and you know, funny

2276
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:02,520
Speaker 3: and subjective.

2277
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:05,360
Speaker 2: But one thing that I think is a subjective is

2278
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:08,559
Speaker 2: saying whether or not she can be in a movie.

2279
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:13,759
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, man, it's been real bad listening

2280
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 2: to certain people talk about it.

2281
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 3: I'll just put it that way.

2282
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 2: Like like I said, I've left certain groups and stuff

2283
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 2: and nerved them because of that, you know, Like well,

2284
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:26,919
Speaker 2: I was just like I don't want to be involved

2285
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:31,520
Speaker 2: in a group that sees Leslie Jones and gets ashamed

2286
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:34,560
Speaker 2: or embarrassed or feels like she's not she shouldn't be

2287
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:36,719
Speaker 2: in this movie, or the movie is gonna be problematic

2288
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:37,639
Speaker 2: because she got the role.

2289
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 3: Because in my heart of hearts, if.

2290
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 2: They would have cast a different looking black woman in it,

2291
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 2: or different type of black women, a lot of people

2292
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 2: that claim to have.

2293
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:52,680
Speaker 3: An issue wouldn't have had as much an issue, right,

2294
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 3: you know.

2295
01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 2: And also in my heart of hearts, I believe what

2296
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 2: Leslie said, which is that if she would have got

2297
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 2: the role as a scientist, because I don't want to

2298
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:03,640
Speaker 2: spoil anything for the movie, but she adds a lot

2299
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:05,720
Speaker 2: of that. She's indispensable to the team. And it's not

2300
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 2: just because she's uh, you know, it's it's and she's

2301
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:11,160
Speaker 2: not a scientist. But they couldn't have they couldn't have

2302
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 2: said the city without her.

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01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 3: Right.

2304
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:17,560
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, I think if she would have

2305
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 2: been put in there as a scientist, She's right, a

2306
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 2: lot of people would had a problem with the type

2307
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:25,559
Speaker 2: of scientists she would have been. Of course, why why

2308
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 2: she I talk like that, she's a scientist, but she

2309
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:30,320
Speaker 2: don't talk like the white people on the show. So

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01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:34,559
Speaker 2: and then to leave on a happier note, because Karen,

2311
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:36,040
Speaker 2: did you I'm sorry, did you want to add anything

2312
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:36,240
Speaker 2: to that?

2313
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I don't know. Okay, Uh to lev On

2314
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:40,040
Speaker 3: kunt of happier note.

2315
01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:42,599
Speaker 2: We did put out a spoil movie review ninety three,

2316
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:46,679
Speaker 2: The Secret Life of Pencil with our kid correspondence Layla,

2317
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:48,719
Speaker 2: my niece, our niece.

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01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:51,120
Speaker 3: We got two comments.

2319
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 2: Jay Dad says, I've been Premium for almost three years

2320
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:54,599
Speaker 2: and this is one of my favorite episodes.

2321
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 3: And we all know why. Layla.

2322
01:49:57,080 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 2: She was adorable, informative and funny. She's point our easter

2323
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 2: eggs from previous movies. Ten year old Jeremy's review. You

2324
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 2: better you remember when the little dog and the big

2325
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 2: dogs fighting?

2326
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was funny. Then sit there quiet for twenty

2327
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 3: more minutes.

2328
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, Layla Laylor was dropping the voond

2329
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 2: of knowledge bombs on us.

2330
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 3: It was like, old, what, no, where do you see that?

2331
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 4: It was in the back?

2332
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 3: Okay, well then you know I didn't know.

2333
01:50:24,439 --> 01:50:26,599
Speaker 2: Oh y'all did excellent work as well, but we all

2334
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:30,439
Speaker 2: know the starters review a to the star power of Layla.

2335
01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, because after we finished, she say what they.

2336
01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:35,599
Speaker 3: Say thing about right?

2337
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:38,360
Speaker 2: I said, I was like you know, I will let

2338
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 2: you know what the people say about you, because they

2339
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 2: definitely gonna love you.

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01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:43,439
Speaker 6: Uh.

2341
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 2: And then Tasha p says, come through with the Easter eggs.

2342
01:50:46,439 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 2: Layla can't wait for more reviews your extra special kids corresponded, well,

2343
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:54,160
Speaker 2: thank you, and uh, I think next up we probably

2344
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:55,160
Speaker 2: have to see the BFG.

2345
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, so we can review that with her. So

2346
01:50:58,680 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 3: that's the plan.

2347
01:50:59,479 --> 01:50:59,639
Speaker 6: Man.

2348
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:03,639
Speaker 3: She loved being on the show, and we love having

2349
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:04,200
Speaker 3: it on the show.

2350
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 5: Man.

2351
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 3: It was so good to be able to spend that

2352
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 3: day with her.

2353
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 6: You know, that day was so much fun. And the

2354
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:13,680
Speaker 6: thing is about BFG. She's read the book years ago,

2355
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 6: because like I said, the girl has probably read you.

2356
01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 6: What she said, do a two hundred books.

2357
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:19,680
Speaker 3: Listen, Laylor be reading.

2358
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 4: Like she'd be reading. She reading to the point I

2359
01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 4: had to get her grandma and grandpa. I'd be like, hey,

2360
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 4: do y'all let her read on her tablet. Her grandma

2361
01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:26,680
Speaker 4: was like no.

2362
01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 6: I was like, please let her read on her tablet.

2363
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 6: Y'all will save so much money. So I didn't notice.

2364
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:32,719
Speaker 6: But at the public library now.

2365
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 3: But the tablet thing is a little harder to control.

2366
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:40,120
Speaker 2: Though sometimes stuff is free, but you might not want

2367
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 2: your kid reading that stuff.

2368
01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:44,240
Speaker 3: The library might think it's available to everybody.

2369
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 2: But you know, you still had to control what kids

2370
01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:51,000
Speaker 2: we Yeah, but the best filter is I can buy

2371
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:54,719
Speaker 2: you a book. You're able to buy your own books

2372
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 2: until you're able to get to an age where I

2373
01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:59,599
Speaker 2: feel like you can discern between you know, I don't

2374
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 2: want stave Bitch is on Layls's tablet.

2375
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:04,080
Speaker 4: But you know, like you get that from the library.

2376
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:06,800
Speaker 4: What's happening to you? It's on candle like that was

2377
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:08,040
Speaker 4: public library.

2378
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:10,880
Speaker 3: You don't know that it's not at the public library. Okay,

2379
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:13,200
Speaker 3: I'm not about to sit up here and slaving my

2380
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 3: black literature. Okay, we got to go. Okay, this is

2381
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 3: just I tried to make it problematic.

2382
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but yeah, is out there your stuff?

2383
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 3: Oh just oh god, just let's get out of here.

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01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 3: You worse.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for all your feedback, everybody, and we'll be

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01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 2: back in the morning or afternoon tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. We had a long day today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll talk about day to day tomorrow.

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01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 3: Sure, okay, all right, well.

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Speaker 2: Ship, it is tomorrow's twelve three in the mother fucking

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01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:47,680
Speaker 2: Eastern time's up.

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Speaker 5: To you.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know.

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01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 3: No, I'm not talking about it right now. This is

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Speaker 3: the end of the show. We'll talk to y'all to

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Speaker 3: to today.

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Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, I gotta edit this. We'll talk to y'all soon.

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Speaker 2: Until then, love, I love you, Ah.