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Speaker 1: Hi, Darren, how are you today? Doing great? How are

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Speaker 1: you doing good?

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Speaker 2: What your relationship like thus far with Daniel and how

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Speaker 2: far can you guys take it?

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a relationship with Gelling.

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Speaker 2: We've got a few months under our belt of staying

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Speaker 2: in touch and just open dialogue.

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Speaker 1: Ego removed.

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Speaker 2: We can tell each other what we're thinking, what he

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Speaker 2: may want, what I things I've been comfortable doing and

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Speaker 2: things I like doing, and find a midpoint or be able.

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Speaker 1: To just learn about each other.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like it's it's paying off and just

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Speaker 2: trying to keep it going day by day and let

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Speaker 2: the results take care of themselves.

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Speaker 1: What do you like about him as a quarterback?

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Speaker 2: I just like it's even killed nature first and foremost.

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Speaker 2: He just has like a calm spirit about him.

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Speaker 1: It's not too high or too low. It's staying in

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Speaker 1: the middle.

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Speaker 2: And you can tell by the way that he's navigated

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Speaker 2: some of the adversity and the noise of his career

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Speaker 2: that that's something that he's focused and is paying dividends

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Speaker 2: for him.

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Speaker 3: Now, thanks for your time, no problem, Charlotte Carroll.

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Speaker 1: Hey Darren, how's it going doing great? How are you good?

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Speaker 4: Kind of a little bit of a follow up to

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Speaker 4: that you and Davis have both been open about kind

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Speaker 4: of that open communication and open dialogue when it comes

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Speaker 4: to your fit with the Giants. What's that look like

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Speaker 4: just these past few days of camp.

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Speaker 2: It looks like, you know, certain freedom on certain routes

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Speaker 2: to where it doesn't have to be super rigid or

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Speaker 2: a way that it's drawn up in a playbook, but

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Speaker 2: really like put your personality and your feel into how

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Speaker 2: you sell certain routes. I'm coming up with ideas of

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Speaker 2: concepts that he's used with tight ends in the past,

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Speaker 2: and I can offer things that I've done in the past,

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Speaker 2: but like, hey, let's let's try this, and you know,

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Speaker 2: it's just something that where you can bounce ideas but

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Speaker 2: also know like there's a standard of being prepared and

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Speaker 2: knowing what you're doing and growing your knowledge in order

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Speaker 2: for you to you know, participate in that dialogue. So

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Speaker 2: like it's it's fair. It allows me to learn, but

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Speaker 2: it also allows me to have.

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Speaker 4: Input that freedom that you kind of talk about and

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Speaker 4: giving that input. Is there something the last and it's

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Speaker 4: only been two days that you could pinpoint an example

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Speaker 4: of that that we might have seen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's not like a it's not like

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Speaker 2: a major detail, but it's the way like you may

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Speaker 2: set up routes on like a third and short situation

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Speaker 2: to where it's the paper and the playbook may tell

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Speaker 2: you to, Hey, you do this, and you run into

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Speaker 2: this landmark and you do this, but it's like if

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Speaker 2: you can put your own little sauce on it and

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Speaker 2: get open, like it's it's encouraged as long as like

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Speaker 2: the fundamentals are there and your knowledge of what the

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Speaker 2: defense is doing and your timing and the concept is there.

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Speaker 2: So it's just it's little things like that. It's not

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Speaker 2: anything drastic, but it's just really small details of a

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Speaker 2: route that probably can't even notice.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, no problem, all shorts.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Paul, Hey, some of your teammates have have I

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Speaker 5: don't know if they've started a fan club for you yet,

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Speaker 5: but they, you know, some of their comments about you

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Speaker 5: have been, you know, quite over the top in some ways.

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Speaker 5: You know, Zamuel mckinning saying you're basically unguardable. I think

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Speaker 5: Paris Campbell was saying the other day that, you know,

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Speaker 5: you're like a freak of nature. Have you heard that

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Speaker 5: before from teammates and and and what's your vibe you're

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Speaker 5: getting from these guys here?

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Speaker 1: About all this love you're getting.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's an honor for my teammates to speak

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Speaker 2: of me in that way because these are guys that

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Speaker 2: do it at a high level and have done it for.

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Speaker 1: A really long time.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I guess it's just like the for

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Speaker 2: try to be able to be comfortable running, and.

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Speaker 1: A lot of guys don't necessarily do that.

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Speaker 2: But it's just you know, coming in with a mindset

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Speaker 2: of like I don't want to be limited in any part

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Speaker 2: just be like, oh man, I'm not really that good

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Speaker 2: at that or I can't do that. I want to

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Speaker 2: be able to do everything and just present myself as

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Speaker 2: a viable option to the quarterback every time I run arount,

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Speaker 2: Like that's really the goal. Keep it as simple as that,

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Speaker 2: Like every single rep I go out there, like make

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Speaker 2: myself presentable, Like if you want if he wants to

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Speaker 2: throw it there, he could throw it there and throw

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Speaker 2: it to me. So that's just how I approach it.

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Speaker 5: You were comfortable with freak of nature?

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Speaker 1: You like that, I'll I'll take it to her.

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Speaker 5: I guess it's a compliment, right, I'm sure it's a compliment, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, sir, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Problem.

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Speaker 4: We have time for two more Tom Rock and then

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Speaker 4: Art Stable Ted.

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Speaker 1: If you only hit up two, I'll see my time.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, go on to the next one, Art, go ahead.

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Speaker 6: Hey Darren, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Man? Hey? I'm doing good? Or how are you doing good? Uh?

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Speaker 6: You know, you talk about the routes you're running. I

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Speaker 6: mean even from day one, you know, I know contact

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Speaker 6: is supposed to be a gradual thing, but it's certainly

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Speaker 6: you know, you were making catches in traffic. That one

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Speaker 6: on the goal line. You took a pretty pretty good

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Speaker 6: hit early. Did that almost help you get into this

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Speaker 6: camp even more so quicker maybe than you normally would?

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Speaker 6: And you know you kind of like that so far

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Speaker 6: early on that that you're really in it. It seems like, uh,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like as you get like acclimated to

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Speaker 2: like the different stages of football every year. Like the

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Speaker 2: contact kind of like wakes you up and reminds you like, okay,

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Speaker 2: like this is this is what it's about. And it raises,

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Speaker 2: you know, just your overall adrenaline and your energy. So

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Speaker 2: I feel like it does help you with like getting

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Speaker 2: back acclimated. So but yeah, I know, guys on defense

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Speaker 2: is trying to make plays in the ball and it's

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Speaker 2: been competitive so far, and I like what I'm seeing

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Speaker 2: in the energy I get from them going lining up

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Speaker 2: against them. So it's been a lot of fun and

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Speaker 2: it's definitely they've definitely raised my level of play.

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Speaker 5: Thanks man, No problem, that's fun here.

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Speaker 1: Pat Leonard Hey.

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Speaker 3: Darren a former teammate of yours, Josh Jacobson, a current

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Speaker 3: teammate of yours saque Barkley, both to kind of had

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Speaker 3: been frustrated throughout this offseason about their lack of positional

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Speaker 3: value contract offers they were trying to work on. You know, what,

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Speaker 3: what is your viewpoint on that. You know, you've seen

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Speaker 3: how important Josh was to the Raiders, and you know

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Speaker 3: how important Saquon is to the Giants. I just want

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Speaker 3: to know what your opinion is as a veteran I

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Speaker 3: know as a guy who kind of follows the entire league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like there's just two sides to it,

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Speaker 2: and there's there's truth on both sides. With the running

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Speaker 2: back position, it's like those guys take a beating. Like

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Speaker 2: just now, I haven't been around Saquan during the course

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Speaker 2: of a season, but being around Josh, it's like he

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Speaker 2: takes a beating as hard as.

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Speaker 1: He would run every week during the season.

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Speaker 2: And if you're in the front office, you take that

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Speaker 2: into account, and it's like the being that they take,

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Speaker 2: it's like you you don't.

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Speaker 1: Really know how long they may last or what may happen.

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Speaker 2: But also it's like you can't just go out on

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Speaker 2: the street and just find anybody that's like a Josh

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Speaker 2: Jacobs or Saquon Barkley, Right, those guys bring such value

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Speaker 2: and both sides have something to stand on. And I

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Speaker 2: don't necessarily know solution, but I know that you know,

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Speaker 2: people got they have a little bit of merit on

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Speaker 2: both sides. But uh, you know, it's a tough situation.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully that's going forward that running bas can feel valued

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Speaker 2: in front offices, can also make decisions they feel like

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Speaker 2: are right