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Speaker 1: afford to do as another episode. Absolutely, I'm really excited
Speaker 1: about this. This is a this is a great day.
Speaker 1: This is a great episode. Um god, this guest, what
Speaker 1: a fucking I don't think I saw you know what?
Speaker 1: She laughs in her chair, But there was not a
Speaker 1: more iconic image than her floating on that fucking pretzel.
Speaker 1: And you knew it, and you knew and you knew it.
Speaker 1: You were siling. We're musling her now, but she's going
Speaker 1: to speak to this later, you guys. She's um the writer, creator,
Speaker 1: executive producer, star of Crazy Ex Girlfriend, Golden Globe Award
Speaker 1: winning t c A Award winning and you know what,
Speaker 1: I think the t c A is is a gag.
Speaker 1: I love the t c A because and we'll get
Speaker 1: into it, but listen, come on, come on, give it up.
Speaker 1: It's Rachel Bloom. Rachel, do you you fucking knew what
Speaker 1: you were doing with that pretzel? Um? Yeah? And you
Speaker 1: know who else did is Mark Webb, who directed it.
Speaker 1: He was like, that pretzel is going to be iconic,
Speaker 1: and then but then we might here we go give it.
Speaker 1: Right before I started this, you have to know, it's
Speaker 1: been a long day and I got stuck on the
Speaker 1: our train and I got here and demanded food from Ronnie.
Speaker 1: But in such a great Ronnie is our new tech.
Speaker 1: Everyone little taps for Ronnie and he looks amazing and
Speaker 1: what I believe to be sembre and Ronnie is paying
Speaker 1: tribute to the new divas. Ronnie was playing some Carlyon
Speaker 1: Charlie Xacs Grimes, Kalani, Ronnie, did you do that on purpose?
Speaker 1: Was your playlist on purpose? Because you knew there were
Speaker 1: some gays coming in here? You know what? You have
Speaker 1: great tastes, Grimes a diva. I mean, you know, we
Speaker 1: can't even refer to Carly Ridge as I'll quote Gloria
Speaker 1: steff On here. She said this at the seven, She goes,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't belong up here. If anything, I'm
Speaker 1: a divette Rachel, would you would you just scarf down
Speaker 1: like some toast toast and almond butter. It was good,
Speaker 1: but now my stomach is like it actually has things
Speaker 1: to process. So the gases are coming up, and which
Speaker 1: is fine, the iconic gases, which ties back into the
Speaker 1: food that she rode into our hearts on. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: pretzel also, so Mark Webb, who directed that, was like,
Speaker 1: we need to make the pretzel look amazing, and that
Speaker 1: whole thing costs like a ton of money. Um, And
Speaker 1: then when they tested the pilot, like the dials went
Speaker 1: slightly down during the West Covina number, which like broke
Speaker 1: Mark's heart because I think, look, when you test a show,
Speaker 1: it's random people coming in. You don't know what they're
Speaker 1: about to watch. So when they were like, ah, fuck,
Speaker 1: this is a musical from it's like, yeah, it is
Speaker 1: getting get on board. Also, I thought potentially it went
Speaker 1: down because people didn't like image of a pretzel. So
Speaker 1: that's like I thought that could have been it. Or
Speaker 1: was it that you stepped out of the car and
Speaker 1: then the dial went down just the whole the second
Speaker 1: the musical number. Well, the thing is those people, I'm
Speaker 1: willing to say those people don't matter. Well. But then
Speaker 1: on the flip side, like once they were used to
Speaker 1: the music, they were like all right, this is a musical. Uh.
Speaker 1: And there was apparently live this like Big I wasn't
Speaker 1: allowed to be at the testing because they didn't want
Speaker 1: actors there, but it was apparently this like big biker
Speaker 1: dude who they were like going around asking like what
Speaker 1: they liked about the show. This is when we were
Speaker 1: still a showtime and the biker who was like, she's
Speaker 1: on a journey. He gets it, he gets it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Joseph Campbell. He mentioned George Joseph Campbell's I rewatched the
Speaker 1: pilot recently. It is so incredible. Um, it's great, and
Speaker 1: I fucking love the show. I want to say this
Speaker 1: season finale is I think, come on, not even being hyperbolic,
Speaker 1: I think it's my favorite season finale of anything. Wow,
Speaker 1: thank you. I mean it was great because it really
Speaker 1: it got it did what a season finale should do,
Speaker 1: which is like it tied up enough and then it
Speaker 1: gave you so much more to look forward to, because
Speaker 1: now you know, we're getting the new iteration of crazy
Speaker 1: exc Yes, Oh my god, you guys, you guys get
Speaker 1: it so hard. My co creator lean Brush McKenna, who's brilliant,
Speaker 1: wrote the Devil Worse product. Come on, We've praised that
Speaker 1: on this show many times, voted about a fourth of
Speaker 1: the movie. She's she's she's amazing. And I get to
Speaker 1: say being a boss. Now, being a boss makes you
Speaker 1: feel for Miranda Priestley, the one line of details of
Speaker 1: your incompetence do not interest me. That's yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I really feel that. And I've told her that and
Speaker 1: she's like, oh yeah, like you sympathize with Miranda when
Speaker 1: you're a boss, and those are all things that I
Speaker 1: could picture Elene is uh. Some of the things Miranda
Speaker 1: says are like things I was walking through work today
Speaker 1: and the like, and we're doing this like spring campaign
Speaker 1: that has florals, and just what popps into my head
Speaker 1: was force for spraying ground break. Elena has a pillow
Speaker 1: in her office that says that by all means move
Speaker 1: at a glacial paste. There's so much. Also, I must
Speaker 1: meet her one day because I have to ask her,
Speaker 1: like if the that's all was because we were talking
Speaker 1: about Meryl and we were talking about how any actress
Speaker 1: looks at that script and they see that's all and
Speaker 1: they deliver it like that's all. But Meryl Streep fucking
Speaker 1: takes that and and goes. And I wonder if that
Speaker 1: was Eileen's intention when she wrote that, for it to
Speaker 1: be this small dismissal, or if that was and how
Speaker 1: she felt when when Meryl interpreted it that way. If
Speaker 1: I had to guess, I would guess that is her intention,
Speaker 1: because Eileen likes writing for like people being natural and small,
Speaker 1: and especially the way that Miranda's she's so quietly dismissive.
Speaker 1: She never really she never explodes. Uh, she said that,
Speaker 1: I mean she is the best things to say about
Speaker 1: Meryl Streep and was basically, Meryl Streep is a brilliant
Speaker 1: improviser too. And the last line of go was a
Speaker 1: direction in the script because sometimes a lean style of
Speaker 1: writing is she'll put stage directions that seemed like they
Speaker 1: should be lines or whatever, just to give intensition. And
Speaker 1: so Merrill actually just went go, like, oh, that's great,
Speaker 1: come on, leave it, leave it. Wait, I want to
Speaker 1: talk about the finale. Um and so the finale Aleen
Speaker 1: wrote the finale and directed the finale. She directed it
Speaker 1: to was on her first episode that she directed the
Speaker 1: last season finale too great. Yes, she's brilliant, and there's
Speaker 1: just so much there and also like guess that's so
Speaker 1: much to look forward to. The last images of it
Speaker 1: are just great, like okay, and like I remember pouring
Speaker 1: over like all these like just like the A V. Clubs,
Speaker 1: the vultures, like there are those recaps and the A
Speaker 1: V Club pointed out, I don't know if this is intentional,
Speaker 1: but that last shot of just the four women was
Speaker 1: that evocative of the craft. Okay, it wasn't. The weird
Speaker 1: thing is it wasn't a lot of people asked, but
Speaker 1: it no, it and I haven't seen the crafting years.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think what it was is evocative of
Speaker 1: things about women scorned getting revenge, which the Craft obviously
Speaker 1: like masters, but it wasn't a specific take on the Craft.
Speaker 1: But what a fun alignment anyway. I mean, yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's like it just it turns that whole premise on
Speaker 1: its like on its head, but it's still like it
Speaker 1: makes it we're crazy ex girlfriend, but now she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to destroy you because it meant something in
Speaker 1: the first season, and meant something in the second season,
Speaker 1: and now it'll mean something new in the third season.
Speaker 1: Can you reveal this and if you can't know worries
Speaker 1: is Robert a thing in season three? Or no? Um, okay,
Speaker 1: oh my god, don't don't, don't don't say it. Don't
Speaker 1: say it. Okay, I'm not I won't. Yeah, I won't
Speaker 1: reveal anything, but I just I love it anyway, just
Speaker 1: that whole Okay, that whole fucking thing. And the finale
Speaker 1: was brilliant. I thought, Yeah, I loved it. Yeah. We
Speaker 1: always knew from the beginning that she'd had some sort
Speaker 1: of affair with a professor um from pretty early on
Speaker 1: because we were like, this is not the first time
Speaker 1: she's gotten two into something. There's no way that she
Speaker 1: just lived in a vacuum and never fell in love again,
Speaker 1: and so we've been waiting to do We were actually
Speaker 1: going to, oh I can say this, yeah, because it's
Speaker 1: not happening anymore. I just realized this. We were going
Speaker 1: to open season two, um with Rebecca in bed like
Speaker 1: cuddling zone, saying I love you, and her turning over
Speaker 1: and it would be Robert and there would be a
Speaker 1: chiron that' say would say like six years earlier in
Speaker 1: the beginning to then yes, But then what happened was
Speaker 1: it just um, there was so much else we had
Speaker 1: to do with the season. Robert wasn't pertinent until the
Speaker 1: end of the season because because she wasn't being stockery
Speaker 1: to like we were going to maybe let it trickle
Speaker 1: out throughout the season and kind of have it be
Speaker 1: a slow burn breaking bad um you know where you
Speaker 1: see that Teddy verything. But it, um, we just had
Speaker 1: so much else to do, especially getting Greg out the door,
Speaker 1: Like putting Robert flashbacks would have been like wait, huh,
Speaker 1: like there it was just too much. I also love
Speaker 1: the misdirect of Greg leaving and the ship the ship
Speaker 1: show song, and then coming back at the end and
Speaker 1: they got that amazing fucking tap number, which you know,
Speaker 1: who fucking blows me away is Vincent Rodriguez, Like he
Speaker 1: he I didn't know he was such a dancer. And
Speaker 1: then I watched the second season and I'm like, not
Speaker 1: only just that tap number, but also that that number
Speaker 1: where you visualize the ballet. Fucking amazing. Vinny was working
Speaker 1: as like a musical theater dance guy, like that's what
Speaker 1: he was earning his and it's it's funny because he
Speaker 1: seems like, at least to me when he's acting, like, oh,
Speaker 1: you are a serious actor. But no, he was like
Speaker 1: in the on the Tour of White Christmas, he was
Speaker 1: he's basically worked as a dance guy and then became
Speaker 1: the dance captain. He was the dance captain of Hunchback,
Speaker 1: of Notre Dame and in LaToya like he primarily yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a dance captor. Okay, youances, then you got your
Speaker 1: dance captain's all right, here we go. He is a
Speaker 1: dance He's a captain of dance and it's so funny
Speaker 1: because he's not really like well, there are elements of
Speaker 1: him that overlap with this character, but he based the
Speaker 1: character kind of on friends he grew up with in
Speaker 1: northern California. So wait, hold on, I have a question
Speaker 1: about the show because I was thinking about this. So
Speaker 1: you have writers on your show and then when the
Speaker 1: music comes in, now is that does the writer of
Speaker 1: the episode have a hand in writing the lyrics or
Speaker 1: do you kind of like write the lyrics with Aileen
Speaker 1: and Jack? The songs are pretty separate. Basically, all the
Speaker 1: songs are written by either me, Jack Dolgin, or Adam
Speaker 1: Slessinger who also co produces the songs with this guy,
Speaker 1: Stephen Gold. Generally, what happens is the songs come from
Speaker 1: like Adam and I were just talking about this today,
Speaker 1: the songs will nine times out of ten come from me,
Speaker 1: Like I'll kind of spearhead the general direction of the songs,
Speaker 1: but the the actual like writing of the songs. It
Speaker 1: varies song to songs, and there have been songs that
Speaker 1: only Adam wrote. There have been songs that only Jack wrote.
Speaker 1: There have been songs that mostly like I mostly only wrote.
Speaker 1: Although Adam and up always getting credited because I write
Speaker 1: so much musical theater stuff and Adam is just so good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was thinking about this because the first number
Speaker 1: is so like a musical theater Was there, ever, did
Speaker 1: you always want to go really into like a specific
Speaker 1: genre just to vary it up, or was there ever
Speaker 1: a version of the show that was like, this is
Speaker 1: like a music this this lives in the world of
Speaker 1: musical theater. What do you mean, like, for example, like
Speaker 1: every song would kind of be like that, like it
Speaker 1: was essentially like a Robbie musical on screen in that
Speaker 1: kind of grand style. Or did you know we also
Speaker 1: want to do like a kind of like UM R
Speaker 1: and B song or like or sort of like this
Speaker 1: is going to be a rap number or like a
Speaker 1: very popular team. It was always going to be different
Speaker 1: genres because of because it was a lean discovered me
Speaker 1: through my music videos, which so it was always going
Speaker 1: to be pop and and yeah, I mean the pilot
Speaker 1: is I mean the West Covina came before Sexy Getting
Speaker 1: Ready song, But originally there was going to be there
Speaker 1: was going to be another song called something like I'm
Speaker 1: Batchet Crazy for Your Love, which which which we replaced
Speaker 1: with Sexy getting Ready sauce. Yeah, my friend I sing
Speaker 1: all the time dream Ghost. I listened to dream Ghost
Speaker 1: all the time. And Michael Hyatt, who sings that song
Speaker 1: is it's just her voice is unbelievable. She's amazing. And
Speaker 1: also just Amber Riley and Fricky Lake being on it
Speaker 1: is Hey, we want to come on the show, and
Speaker 1: we were like, great, oh my god, Math of Love Triangles.
Speaker 1: I think I'm really really proud of that one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Anyway, Um, Rachel, We're gonna ask you
Speaker 1: what we ask all of our guests. What is the
Speaker 1: culture that shaped you? What is the culture that made you? Say?
Speaker 1: Culture is for me? Yeah, I want to step into
Speaker 1: a cultural direction. Um. I mean I'm just such a
Speaker 1: musical theater kids, so musical theater culture. I mean I
Speaker 1: met my best friend when we were both in UM
Speaker 1: Community theater production of Crazy for You and he was
Speaker 1: holding court, um, dissecting rent this fifteen year old he's gay,
Speaker 1: but we dated because of course, um you got and
Speaker 1: so I just think musical musical theater culture really shaped me.
Speaker 1: And then and then when I got into comedy, sketch
Speaker 1: comedy culture specifically like around you see be the kind
Speaker 1: of collaborative, the collaborative theatrical nature of comedy theaters. Those
Speaker 1: two things lovely, um crazy for you was interesting because
Speaker 1: then you came full circle with that moment with that
Speaker 1: with the continent, and he was there. He was there. Wait,
Speaker 1: I so that was my I think that's I think
Speaker 1: it's a great I think that's one of my favorite
Speaker 1: shows and musical. I think it's like pretty pretty solid.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think it's great. How was the concert?
Speaker 1: What did you saying? Like were your Well, I was
Speaker 1: it wasn't. Look it's so they said it was a
Speaker 1: stage reading. We did the Broadway showed you guys doing
Speaker 1: the number. You know, we did. We literally the Laura
Speaker 1: fucking Ozma's Laura and my god Laura's first names law Laura,
Speaker 1: Osna and um Tony yasbec had the week before along
Speaker 1: with the dancers to learn it, and then a lot
Speaker 1: of us, a lot of us other principles came in
Speaker 1: the next week, but which gave everyone two weeks at
Speaker 1: most to learn an entire show. An entire show concert.
Speaker 1: It's not it was THEO just with like concerty costumes.
Speaker 1: Let's let everyone know it was the show it was.
Speaker 1: It was the Broadway show. They out um and then
Speaker 1: my number I sing the song naughty Baby, which was
Speaker 1: so fun. I mean I had just come off of
Speaker 1: having very bad vertigo. I was sick and then my
Speaker 1: like inner ear nerves got swolen and so I was
Speaker 1: on like vertigo medicine, which is good because my number
Speaker 1: was me dancing on a table being lifted in the
Speaker 1: air by a bunch of men at ben Mare. Always
Speaker 1: top of my class. All the boys were under me.
Speaker 1: Dirty lyric, dirty lyric. I don't know the show, which
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, I mean I have many questions based
Speaker 1: on I had many questions about my character. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: I had a lot of questions, Uh it is it is?
Speaker 1: Um yeah, there were because it's you know, it's written
Speaker 1: in this kind of old school style there there literally
Speaker 1: the motive of my character was telling Tony Asbec's character like,
Speaker 1: we're engaged and we're gonna get married, and he's like, no,
Speaker 1: we're not. I've never met you. And so the justification
Speaker 1: that I came up with was that they like kept
Speaker 1: hooking up and he kept like fucking er but then
Speaker 1: being like no, but this isn't a thing, and she's
Speaker 1: like but you're sucking me, and and that one time
Speaker 1: she had a pregnancy scare but it's but it wasn't
Speaker 1: and then but like that that's and I think I
Speaker 1: told Tony at one point I was like, so I
Speaker 1: think what happens is they hook up and and she's like, well,
Speaker 1: we're getting married now, and he's like, no, we're not.
Speaker 1: But but but he kept kinger because that's what people do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is actually those men and I and I came
Speaker 1: up with the idea that Bobby Child is not very
Speaker 1: good in the sack, that he was very very vanilla,
Speaker 1: and that uh, Jerry O'Connell play the guy who I
Speaker 1: end up with is like a fucking beast. Love it.
Speaker 1: So it was a happy ending, really happy ending, lovely,
Speaker 1: really good for everyone. He just sucking. He just gives
Speaker 1: it to her, He just lays it in the end. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. So you study musical theater at college
Speaker 1: and also simultaneously were hammerkats n y U director. Now
Speaker 1: did you ever feel because I also have we're we're
Speaker 1: in a musical sketch group popular lat and we kind
Speaker 1: of fused the two as well, like sketch comedy and
Speaker 1: musical theater or whatever. But we have some friends who
Speaker 1: were also in CAP twenty one and like didn't discover
Speaker 1: comedy till later, almost because they felt like they couldn't
Speaker 1: because the musical theater world is so different it. Did
Speaker 1: you feel ever like like how am I gonna like?
Speaker 1: Like you obviously had too strong interests? Like did you
Speaker 1: ever feel like that was very hard to get satisfied
Speaker 1: in what you were doing? Absolutely all the time. I
Speaker 1: mean I felt that, um and I yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I didn't felt like I fit in in the musical
Speaker 1: theater program. I resented the fact that like a lot
Speaker 1: of musical theater is like not amazing and that a
Speaker 1: lot of it's dated. And then, but simultaneously, although I
Speaker 1: loved Hammer Kats, I felt like there was a lack
Speaker 1: of emotion that was missing. And I felt like I
Speaker 1: felt like when I first got into comedy. This is
Speaker 1: all testament to also a testament to the people who
Speaker 1: were the directors at the time. I felt like in
Speaker 1: order to go into comedy, I suddenly had to like
Speaker 1: become a dude. I had to be like sad my jack,
Speaker 1: you know, and um, yeah, and it's funny. I was
Speaker 1: just sitting why are you talking about this today? So
Speaker 1: it's fresh in my head. But I don't know if
Speaker 1: you knew this. I'll try to be vague. But um, So,
Speaker 1: when I was young, I was I was going to
Speaker 1: be director of Hammercats. My sophomore year, I got involved
Speaker 1: in a love triangle with um a couple of the
Speaker 1: older guys, some of whom were alumni, not my current husband,
Speaker 1: who is an alumni, but he's a different alumni. That's right, Hi,
Speaker 1: I love you so much. We never met, dam but
Speaker 1: I love you too, know, and I would love to
Speaker 1: think you've got my husband right. I've met Dan and
Speaker 1: he started danger Box too. Let me give social media
Speaker 1: love every now and then to each other. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: laying my hands on your man. He's he's the best.
Speaker 1: He's the best. So anyway, I got involved in a
Speaker 1: love triangle. I was nineteen years old. I lost my
Speaker 1: virginity to one of these guys, and then like his
Speaker 1: other friends started hitting on me, and again, I was
Speaker 1: nineteen and I basically it was a whole kerfuffle where
Speaker 1: like they were all in like a comedy group together,
Speaker 1: and basically I got removed as director and head writer
Speaker 1: of Hammercats, which is which is which is a little
Speaker 1: thing called sexual harassment, and then I was so then
Speaker 1: I was named like assistant director the next year by
Speaker 1: the people who replaced me. I was replaced with two men. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then I became like director senior year because like
Speaker 1: one of the guys quit because he wasn't happy. It
Speaker 1: was a whole thing, but it was, here's the thing
Speaker 1: I I should have. I should have quit. I should have,
Speaker 1: you know, And I didn't because being on the sketch
Speaker 1: group was my identity in school and I loved comedy
Speaker 1: so much. But I didn't have to be on the
Speaker 1: sketch group to do comedy. But I don't necessarily regret it,
Speaker 1: because we created our own sketch groups. Ever. We created
Speaker 1: our a new sketch comedy show every month, and it
Speaker 1: trained me and like when I and it trained me
Speaker 1: to write a lot, and it's how I got good
Speaker 1: at writing. But like, man, the lack of self respect
Speaker 1: I had for myself in college makes me want to puke.
Speaker 1: You know. It's so interesting because you look back and
Speaker 1: you're like, man, what a warp situation. I went into
Speaker 1: my audition for hammerck Ats, I didn't do my hair,
Speaker 1: and I made sure I wore a shirt with Heath
Speaker 1: Ledger as the joker on it because I was like,
Speaker 1: I must be perceived as straight. They will not allow
Speaker 1: me into that group. You you weren't all my senior year.
Speaker 1: You had just and um, but you were in the
Speaker 1: room for my audition. And I went in and I
Speaker 1: was like, and I look back at it and I
Speaker 1: was like, I can't believe that I have shown in
Speaker 1: that audition because I was being the opposite of myself.
Speaker 1: I played like very agro like dad character and those
Speaker 1: old old auditions, things, Olderian things I went to. And
Speaker 1: now it's like, I feel like what makes me special
Speaker 1: as a performer is so different than that. But I
Speaker 1: was literally like fighting for my life to get on
Speaker 1: that group because I had just come out of the
Speaker 1: closet and I was like, I must do comedy. It's
Speaker 1: what I must do. I had just been cut in
Speaker 1: the first round of Danger Box the day prior Danger Boxes,
Speaker 1: the improv group, and yeah, the last culture is this.
Speaker 1: Listeners have heard us talk about these groups before, but
Speaker 1: this is this is we have hammer cuts. But this
Speaker 1: is the family in the in the room, so we
Speaker 1: must talk about it. This is a deeper layer. We
Speaker 1: haven't talked about this, but yeah, this was really hard
Speaker 1: because I was like, and it's still when I got
Speaker 1: on the group, I was like, Okay, at what point
Speaker 1: do I really start being myself? And it was really tough.
Speaker 1: And then we continued to be objectified. Do you remember
Speaker 1: when they threw us a wedding? Okay? I do, well
Speaker 1: you sent us you were like wedding? Well, okay, how
Speaker 1: much do we want to? Okay, So here's what you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, what happened was you were the I mean
Speaker 1: basically the only two gig guys on the two main
Speaker 1: sketch groups, and everyone was like, you guys should get
Speaker 1: married because you're gay. There is this person who was
Speaker 1: involved in the comedy groups, who has quite a lot
Speaker 1: of money, who is eccentric, and this person literally was like,
Speaker 1: we should throw them a wedding, and you guys were
Speaker 1: like ha ha right, and then she, she she them
Speaker 1: fake threw you a wedding like spent money. Wasn't it
Speaker 1: a Rassic Park themes park theme wedding? And you know
Speaker 1: what looking back on it, and and then we were
Speaker 1: of course we wrote our own vows. What was your
Speaker 1: how did you when did you Did you know this
Speaker 1: was going to happen? I had, we knew that there
Speaker 1: was going to be an event. I just didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't know how much it was going to go into it.
Speaker 1: And what you have to understand is how humiliating that is,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that you're trying to have fun with
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know what, like we have a
Speaker 1: sense of humor about this, like and I think that's good,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, like we both know this
Speaker 1: is fucked up right where we were like, but no one,
Speaker 1: I think everyone else thought it was Oh, you know what,
Speaker 1: I remember this. My friend was there, Danny was there,
Speaker 1: and he was texting me updates and I was like,
Speaker 1: wait a second, what right? I remember being harried And
Speaker 1: basically this is one of our friends, like probably got
Speaker 1: stoned one night and made a fake wedding website through
Speaker 1: like then not the wedding, a full wedding registry for us,
Speaker 1: Like honestly, it was funny, like in the way that
Speaker 1: like ha ha, gay is funny when you're admittedly one
Speaker 1: and not the best version of yourself. That's no shade
Speaker 1: to anyone at the time, Like, seriously, we're fine. Did
Speaker 1: it was there like a tenth of me that was
Speaker 1: like funk, still dealing with this, like still this is
Speaker 1: like how you guys see me a little bit, but
Speaker 1: like I'm not a humorless I got that it was
Speaker 1: funny the event that like literal thousands of dollars that
Speaker 1: were being thrown into this event, thousands of dollars a
Speaker 1: bizarre and like honestly, at that point, I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: well we have to at least have the opportunity to respond.
Speaker 1: So Bowen improvised quote unquote his vows because he was
Speaker 1: as an improviser. You guys had to do a ceremony,
Speaker 1: walked down the Bowen wore a vail. It was, um,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's all coming back to me, all
Speaker 1: these text messages because I was in l A and
Speaker 1: I was like, what's going on? Yeah, So then I
Speaker 1: wrote my vows and I was like, you know, this
Speaker 1: night is about so many things. It's about love, it's
Speaker 1: about friendship, but mostly it's about money. And I thought
Speaker 1: it was so I thought I was justified, and then
Speaker 1: the person got very upset and I was told by
Speaker 1: the person that made the wedding registry that I had
Speaker 1: to make it right. And I'm like, let me tell you,
Speaker 1: didn't this person say you ruined the wedding or am?
Speaker 1: I don't really know what was said. All I know
Speaker 1: is that we had to then deal with this person's
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, this is ridiculous because like,
Speaker 1: and their justification was they just wanted to do something nice.
Speaker 1: So Matt I had to walk outside while they were
Speaker 1: like sitting on the stoop basically just like we despondent.
Speaker 1: And then Matt and I were just like, hey, we
Speaker 1: just want to make sure everything is okay. But also
Speaker 1: and I will never forget this, Matt literally, we were
Speaker 1: both everyone involved was very hammered, and Matt just screams
Speaker 1: to the person, we didn't ask for this, which is
Speaker 1: kind of perfect. I actually, um, does this person listen
Speaker 1: to the podcast? I have no idea, you know what.
Speaker 1: I reached out to this person recently to kind of
Speaker 1: uh Men's fences because I saw this person in the
Speaker 1: show and thought they were fabulous, and you know I I, yeah,
Speaker 1: in a show and a show a person an uh
Speaker 1: and it was a prop show, and I reached out
Speaker 1: and I thought it was it was reacting, which was acting.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so I reached out and was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think we've been through our ups
Speaker 1: and downs, but I just wanted to tell you like
Speaker 1: that you were great. I just wanted to at least
Speaker 1: like reach out and put a button on that because
Speaker 1: we had a weird moment after the show and I
Speaker 1: was just like, I don't really want to be thinking
Speaker 1: about this anymore. Like like I said, I truly I
Speaker 1: funked up so many times when I was that age,
Speaker 1: Like I said, nasty, maybe this is still me this
Speaker 1: person is it was older than you though, yes, But
Speaker 1: the thing is like it just meant something to me
Speaker 1: to reach out and men that bridge. And I think
Speaker 1: maybe I think everyone had regrets about it. This person
Speaker 1: say like, oh yeah, like I've thought about that and
Speaker 1: that was so weird. They just kind of thanked me.
Speaker 1: It's fine, you know what. I don't expect that person
Speaker 1: to be the bigger person. It's okay. I think maybe
Speaker 1: they're you know, it's just it's just it's all fine.
Speaker 1: But looking back on it, I was like, yeah, that
Speaker 1: was a little bit of a fund up night to
Speaker 1: begin with. That for me at the end of the
Speaker 1: night to feel like I was the one who funked up.
Speaker 1: That's gas lighting. Yeah, And it was a homophobic night.
Speaker 1: It was a night of it's the problem that it's
Speaker 1: the problem that happens, you know what bothers me is like,
Speaker 1: because there are some women who really, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: am dealing with like my stomach processing all of the toast.
Speaker 1: I just ate it like pains. So anyway, there's some
Speaker 1: like I hate I hate it when there are some
Speaker 1: girls who are like where my gaze at and it's
Speaker 1: like they're not your gaze. They're they're all individual people.
Speaker 1: And there is a tokenism with the way people, especially
Speaker 1: straight women act towards gay men that I'm very cognizant
Speaker 1: of because I used to do it because I and
Speaker 1: I don't know why, I naturally really get along with game.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but there but like I could
Speaker 1: totally see a world. There's probably a world in which,
Speaker 1: like in college, I was like my game and it's
Speaker 1: just like, um, I'll never forget I read Elliott Glazer wrote,
Speaker 1: um an amazing it was like an op ed. This
Speaker 1: is like six seven, eight years ago about how like
Speaker 1: there was a woman who like wrote a humorous op
Speaker 1: ed that had been going around that was like I
Speaker 1: need a gay best friend. And he responded to that
Speaker 1: and was like, we're not your accessories, We're not your purse.
Speaker 1: Were people right? I know we had a sense. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if you felt it this way, but like,
Speaker 1: because I was on the team, I was gay, I
Speaker 1: was like, well there, they won't add another one, and
Speaker 1: they be That was unfair of me to think. And
Speaker 1: I always think, you know, like RuPaul says, how much
Speaker 1: of this is the calls coming inside of the house.
Speaker 1: Um calls coming from inside the house. But you know,
Speaker 1: it makes you think a little bit, like it was,
Speaker 1: it was much harder for women to become directors of
Speaker 1: that group. Uh. And then when I think we had
Speaker 1: I mean fabulous David Sirov was amazing. I mean he
Speaker 1: ran such an amazing group. And the group really changed.
Speaker 1: And then I was director, and then Sudi was director,
Speaker 1: Jenny Jaffey was director, and it became it felt it
Speaker 1: felt like a different atmosphere, like a much more accepting.
Speaker 1: It was a great when I was on there, it
Speaker 1: was not great, And I yeah, I have many thoughts
Speaker 1: and regrets and it's partially what shaped my comedy now.
Speaker 1: Is my I dated my mentors. They completely turned on me.
Speaker 1: Uh and I was at a certain point trying to
Speaker 1: be like them, and then I was like, funk these guys.
Speaker 1: And I my comedy began to get more emotional feminine
Speaker 1: is the wrong word, but more specific two things that
Speaker 1: affected me as a as a woman, and it shipped
Speaker 1: and then I started to write more musical comedy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's fabulous, And there wasn't this but this kind
Speaker 1: of like masculine passing is so real and it didn't
Speaker 1: really fully dawn on me until now that like you
Speaker 1: had to, like I feel like you had to grow
Speaker 1: up in order to like fit in, or that you
Speaker 1: had to like wear specific teeth. That's really upsetting and
Speaker 1: funked up that you felt like you had to just
Speaker 1: because you knew the comedy community was so like kind
Speaker 1: of like what you know it was half that well
Speaker 1: it's a boys club, and I knew that it was
Speaker 1: a boys club, but like I had gone to UCB
Speaker 1: shows all year. Also all that summer, I had taken
Speaker 1: a one oh one at uc B, And you know
Speaker 1: that's how I know that when you walk into those
Speaker 1: classes that you see be like you're all anxious because
Speaker 1: it's like improv and you know, am I going to
Speaker 1: be funny or whatever? But when you walk in and
Speaker 1: you're the only one, no matter what that means, like
Speaker 1: if it means due to your race, to your sexual orientation,
Speaker 1: maybe you're the only woman in a class. Um you
Speaker 1: take that class differently, your experience is wildly different. And
Speaker 1: so maybe, But I think a lot of it also
Speaker 1: had to do with my upbringing because I'm from Long
Speaker 1: Island and it's a very like toxic kind of masculine
Speaker 1: um culture there, and you know, they just don't even
Speaker 1: really know that it's happening. They don't know that the
Speaker 1: minorities on Long Island field the way they do that.
Speaker 1: I believe that if they did know, and if they
Speaker 1: knew that people grew up this way and we're so
Speaker 1: hurt this way, like maybe they would change. And also
Speaker 1: maybe I'm giving them too much credit. Um yeah, did
Speaker 1: you ever feel like that um mine is more ethnicity based?
Speaker 1: I think like walking into the danger box audition, I'm
Speaker 1: sure I pulled out like ten Asian jokes, and that
Speaker 1: is because what I was used to, the moments I
Speaker 1: was used to were um uh, it was it was
Speaker 1: just having to make people feel comfortable and appease them
Speaker 1: by like playing this caricature Asian person, so by like
Speaker 1: and so yeah and like yeah, I even regret that,
Speaker 1: Like thinking back on that, that's kind of really upsetting
Speaker 1: and makes me want to puke. But like probably I
Speaker 1: don't know, but that's the history of that's so that's
Speaker 1: especially in America, the history of how anyone who is
Speaker 1: in a straight white male has been in in art
Speaker 1: and culture and media is is often playing up a
Speaker 1: straight white male gaze version of themselves or or playing
Speaker 1: a stereotype because that's only what you'd be cast as.
Speaker 1: And then you know, and then Mickey Rooney takes your job.
Speaker 1: And then I tried to watch I had actually never
Speaker 1: seen Breakfast to Tiffany's and Gregor and I tried to
Speaker 1: watch it, and we were like, oh no, we were,
Speaker 1: we were we could, we couldn't watch it. It's awful.
Speaker 1: It's bad. I mean, yeah, it's good for the fashion,
Speaker 1: but you know what, Okay, I want to mention this.
Speaker 1: I want to mention talking about Mickey Rooney's adorable that
Speaker 1: was all gardens like kimono. I want to mention this,
Speaker 1: um welcome we show sophomore Yere, I like just laid
Speaker 1: those Asian jokes on thick and then Andrew Farmer pulled
Speaker 1: me aside before the nuxt show went up, and he
Speaker 1: was like, hey, this year and hopefully for the rest
Speaker 1: of time, I don't want you to make another Asian
Speaker 1: joke on stage over oh God blessing. And I was like,
Speaker 1: at first it really made me nervous, and then I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, but he's so right, and then I
Speaker 1: like that was a moment for me and I have
Speaker 1: Andrew to think, but like, I'll still make an Asian joke,
Speaker 1: and like I get to pull that card out whenever
Speaker 1: I want now, But like that was like him telling
Speaker 1: me to lean off the crutch, don't use it anymore.
Speaker 1: And then it just took me to the next You're right,
Speaker 1: it becomes it's like it's anything, and I say, this
Speaker 1: is like a Jewish person, which growing up in l
Speaker 1: A and living in New York is not really, but
Speaker 1: it's like you you begin to it's a defense mechanism.
Speaker 1: You you turn what you're insecure about into your sword.
Speaker 1: But then but then that sword becomes a crutch. What
Speaker 1: were the Asian jokes she made about had to do
Speaker 1: with like laundromats and like fro Yo places and places yeah,
Speaker 1: Barry and like just every f places like operated by agents.
Speaker 1: Actually I never clocked that. I never see I've pulled
Speaker 1: that out in my stand up a couple of times,
Speaker 1: and it has like a fifty percent hit, right, so
Speaker 1: maybe yeah, you know what, Yeah, that's that's fair. But
Speaker 1: it's so it's so funny that you say that when
Speaker 1: you when you started to get angry, that's when you
Speaker 1: started to get musical, because the same like when I graduated,
Speaker 1: we started to do pap Roulette, and that's when I
Speaker 1: really started to feel like, oh wow, I'm really writing
Speaker 1: what I want to write well, And maybe there's something
Speaker 1: to that thing where they say when you can no
Speaker 1: longer speak, you sing. But it felt like me too.
Speaker 1: It felt like it felt like I remember one of
Speaker 1: the dudes in fact, who I was in the trigle with,
Speaker 1: it was like, when you're gonna stop the musical theater
Speaker 1: thing and just do comedy, and it's like and so
Speaker 1: when I turned against these guys a little bit, I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna do what I want, and I
Speaker 1: fucking love musicals, and I went I took a musical
Speaker 1: theater writing class at the Graduate Musical Theater Program over
Speaker 1: the summer, and I really started to like because the
Speaker 1: guys that ever discouraged me from writing musical sketches even
Speaker 1: it just like I had discouraged myself because I wanted
Speaker 1: to fit in. I wanted to do the type of
Speaker 1: things I thought they thought were funny because it's a
Speaker 1: feminine slash gay impulse, and that means it can't be mainstream,
Speaker 1: or it can't be cool, or it can't be whatever.
Speaker 1: And it's such bullshit because who the funk said that? Right?
Speaker 1: But then it came full circle. This is another full
Speaker 1: circle moment that I'm just like dragging out with your
Speaker 1: Golden Globe speech. It was like, and now there is
Speaker 1: a musical like comedy on Network and we I don't
Speaker 1: know if you saw the Instagram, we screamed we were
Speaker 1: so proud of you, and we are so proud of you.
Speaker 1: Have to oh, I want to see that. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: knew you were going to win when when you got nominated.
Speaker 1: I said to everyone, I was like, she is gonna win.
Speaker 1: I was like absolutely, because Gina Rodriguez had one the
Speaker 1: year before, and I felt like I was like, they're
Speaker 1: gonna want and I knew. I knew. I was like,
Speaker 1: you're so charming. She's killing it with with every buddy
Speaker 1: that that talks to her. I was like, let me
Speaker 1: tell you something, There was absolutely no way that anyone
Speaker 1: watches this show or even meets her and checks off
Speaker 1: Another box for me was that the first for me
Speaker 1: first season after the Doctor Phil episode where you just
Speaker 1: like Rebecca starts to like fully unravel, I was like,
Speaker 1: she's gonna win, She's gonna win some awards this season.
Speaker 1: And then it came trip, it came true. I can't
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see that instagram. We'll show you.
Speaker 1: We were screaming and actually the instagram was the second.
Speaker 1: We didn't like film it like the first time because
Speaker 1: we were watching with bated breath, but we filmed, we
Speaker 1: rewound it and like we watched it again, re reacted.
Speaker 1: But um, okay, so we should take a quick breath.
Speaker 1: I have. I don't know if it's like up to
Speaker 1: something's happening, whatever's in Rachel. We're going to get out
Speaker 1: of her. I need to bend over like a dog
Speaker 1: and just like someone needs to give me, like we're
Speaker 1: gonna exercise, and we're going to be right back to
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Speaker 1: All right, that's enough, let's get back to the Come on,
Speaker 1: let's go, and we're back with Rachel Blade. You know
Speaker 1: why we're going to jump back in because I'm sticky.
Speaker 1: We talked about this in the break. So Rachel Blue
Speaker 1: came into town last year to be on Late Night
Speaker 1: with Seth Mine with Seth Meyers heard of it um
Speaker 1: and afterwards we were hanging out and then Rachel was
Speaker 1: telling me about how Vinny Rodriguez was telling you all
Speaker 1: about Rice queens. And then I informed you about the
Speaker 1: concept of okay, So Rice Queen's first of all, are
Speaker 1: any gay man, regardless of ethnic city, who fetishized as
Speaker 1: Asian men is almost exclusively into Asian men. So then
Speaker 1: I told Rice Queen is a Rice Queen. I told
Speaker 1: Rachel about the concept of sticky Rice or being stick
Speaker 1: which is Asian on Asian fetishism, which and and so, Rachel,
Speaker 1: I think you were very shocked at this revelation. Well,
Speaker 1: because the idea that that it's a comment that there
Speaker 1: are Asian guys who don't want to date other Asian guys,
Speaker 1: so they'll be like, sorry, I'm not sticky, right, And
Speaker 1: we were just talking on during the break about how
Speaker 1: that is also casually racist, but I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's interesting, like at what point is your you know,
Speaker 1: what your dick wants or what your vagina wants, Like
Speaker 1: is that diserting race racism or is that just what
Speaker 1: your dick wants and your what your vagina wants. But
Speaker 1: it's like, and I, as a white person, have no
Speaker 1: opinion on this, and then should have no opinion. There's
Speaker 1: also no such thing as preferring one. I don't think
Speaker 1: so anyway, because like you're attracted to, like there's no
Speaker 1: limit on attraction, Like it's you not admitting to yourself
Speaker 1: that you're attracted to certain people or thinking you should
Speaker 1: be attracted to someone else. Like honestly, like if I
Speaker 1: saw fucking Chris Evans walk in this goddamn room, I
Speaker 1: cannot promise you that I'd be attracted to him because
Speaker 1: I haven't my body isn't in the same room as him. Yet,
Speaker 1: I like, it's all fake. It's all fucking fake. But
Speaker 1: even then, it's like the gay men who say they're
Speaker 1: not into Asians, like if they saw Vinny, like, would
Speaker 1: they change their minds? Like it's that kind of thing works. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like what do you what are you saying you're
Speaker 1: not into Asian people because that's what your idea of,
Speaker 1: whatever you think, whatever, like you think you might be
Speaker 1: into that a person of Asian descent doesn't fit that. Yep,
Speaker 1: that's it, That's what it is. I mean people, I
Speaker 1: would say, like the big the most comments we get
Speaker 1: on our show are like god, no, no, no, no, no
Speaker 1: no no. I was just like saying no now now
Speaker 1: now I'm just talking about attractive Asian, attractive Asian man.
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, I mean I feel like the people, well, no, no,
Speaker 1: the purpose person who's objectified most is David Hall's white Josh,
Speaker 1: but but Vinnie's is objectified quite ant. Vinny Vinnie's very hot,
Speaker 1: and then and then Rene and then Renee has been
Speaker 1: there is quite I mean, father Bris a fan favorite,
Speaker 1: but women are like, oh my god father, Brise so
Speaker 1: freaking sexy. I mean because because he's a priest too
Speaker 1: hot show. Also, did you know Vella? No? I never
Speaker 1: knew her. That is insane to me, because you know
Speaker 1: how I know Vella. I don't know her personally, but
Speaker 1: she's been Facebook married to Preston Martin for a decade. Hilarious.
Speaker 1: And I was like, when I saw that she was
Speaker 1: on the show, I was like, Oh, I wonder if
Speaker 1: Rachel has been friends with her. It's the weirdest thing.
Speaker 1: Plays Heather and I she she was two years above
Speaker 1: me at the experimental theater Wing and n y U.
Speaker 1: We never met. I never knew each other. We have
Speaker 1: all the same mutual friends. And when we cast her
Speaker 1: on the show, it was just from her audition. She's
Speaker 1: so good. I must have met her. And then I
Speaker 1: was like, she came to a hammerketch show. But I
Speaker 1: think just doesn't remember me, which is fine. And I
Speaker 1: I saw her in in a show The Dibbic, and
Speaker 1: I don't remember her either, so it's weird. That's I'm
Speaker 1: kind of glad because I was a mess in college.
Speaker 1: I'm really glad she's getting Rachel and this is a
Speaker 1: real thing. Here we go Bowen and I are. First
Speaker 1: time we ever met was our friend Munk took us
Speaker 1: to a Hammercats show and we sat in silver and
Speaker 1: watched a Hammercat show and there was like thirteen people there.
Speaker 1: And you were the reason I wanted to audition for
Speaker 1: the group, because you said you you delivered a line
Speaker 1: so good, so perfectly. It was a show where, um,
Speaker 1: it was speed dating, but all the dates were with voiceovers,
Speaker 1: and you played the sex in the City of voiceover
Speaker 1: and you turned out to the audience and said, I
Speaker 1: had to wonder, are we really speed dating or is
Speaker 1: the speed dating us? And I was like, that is
Speaker 1: so funny. Hold on a second. This is a group
Speaker 1: at my school, Like I have to be in this.
Speaker 1: And it was that moment that I think I decided
Speaker 1: not only to like next year, I was gonna come
Speaker 1: out next year. I was gonna try to do comedy.
Speaker 1: I was gonna admit to myself all my interests. And
Speaker 1: it was like at that show that I was like,
Speaker 1: I was going to transfer to Tish, Like I I
Speaker 1: decided at that show, I was like, this is definitely
Speaker 1: what I have to do and that I never knew
Speaker 1: that that yeah, that was And also the fact that
Speaker 1: that's the first time I met you. Wow, what's and
Speaker 1: here we are in this room. Here we are years later,
Speaker 1: ten years later, Rachel, you know us when you probably
Speaker 1: you knew me when I was still in the closet,
Speaker 1: and yeah, well I remember having a really in depth
Speaker 1: no no, no no, But this is when you were
Speaker 1: out because we remember we went out for dinner USC
Speaker 1: and you were on the fence about you were going
Speaker 1: to be a doctor. There was a time when he
Speaker 1: was going to move back to Denver and I was like, whoa.
Speaker 1: Rachel took me out to dinner after the show at
Speaker 1: USC and it was I still remember to this day.
Speaker 1: That was the nicest thing, one of the nicest things
Speaker 1: anyone's ever done. I mean, but we had that long
Speaker 1: conversation where yeah, I was you were like I don't
Speaker 1: You were like, I love comedy, but also I'm premed right,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was like, what did I say?
Speaker 1: I was like, don't help people. I mean, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to remember. I think I was like she was a
Speaker 1: huge cigar. I was like, that's don't help people. You
Speaker 1: just sounded like medicine wasn't your passion at all. And
Speaker 1: I was like, why would you be a doctor if
Speaker 1: you don't. I was like, being a doctor's really hard.
Speaker 1: You have to like, you have to like it, you
Speaker 1: know what. That was the moment where I realized that
Speaker 1: being a doctor was going to be really hard and
Speaker 1: it wasn't a star A star. Yeah. I think that's
Speaker 1: also like you were just so distinct and your voice
Speaker 1: has always been so distinct, and I was like, oh, huh,
Speaker 1: doctor doesn't really know I mean, you'd be the funniest doctor,
Speaker 1: best best singer. Oh doctor, um no, but that that
Speaker 1: no for real though, real talk. That was actually probably
Speaker 1: like one of the first moments where like someone was
Speaker 1: saying to me, like, well, maybe that's not the right
Speaker 1: thing to pursue, and did you did you change majors?
Speaker 1: And change majors? Rachel? I had a full depression era
Speaker 1: personal depression. I shouldn't I shouldn't pair those words together.
Speaker 1: It was after college, like I didn't realize, Like I
Speaker 1: remember being at graduation at Yankee Stadium and Matt was
Speaker 1: sucking on the field singing with all reality show so
Speaker 1: I sang learned to love and live on the field,
Speaker 1: and I remember feeling sad in that moment. I was
Speaker 1: like I don't want to do this thing where I'm
Speaker 1: going to go to med school, and so I like
Speaker 1: pulled out on my my applications and then just like
Speaker 1: I didn't follow through and then spent like the year
Speaker 1: after that, the intervening year between college and doing Papuarlett
Speaker 1: and like doing comedy shows like temping and trying to
Speaker 1: survive and like all of that. You really made the
Speaker 1: right decision, I think. So I took into Bapiano on
Speaker 1: university and I was like please being I was like,
Speaker 1: grace us with you because he had heard to the
Speaker 1: grapevine that you were thinking about moving back home, and
Speaker 1: I was like, that's not acceptable. And we had been
Speaker 1: talking in Papulette about like because how much we loved
Speaker 1: you and how much you wanted you to be on anyway,
Speaker 1: this is getting a little too inside. When did you
Speaker 1: When did you come out again? It was the middle
Speaker 1: of sophomore year. Was the weekend before the groups went
Speaker 1: to Skidmore our sophomore year, talking on the table, right,
Speaker 1: wait were you a year I was a freshman where
Speaker 1: when you were graduating? Yeah? Okay, um, so anyway, and
Speaker 1: then that was and then I remember screaming to Neil
Speaker 1: Casey at the after part. Oh, this is the best
Speaker 1: story ever. Was the after party of skid More. Bowen
Speaker 1: came out at Skidmore screamed in Neil Casey's face, I'm
Speaker 1: a big old fan. Oh my god. And He's like,
Speaker 1: that's great, man, that's fantastic great. Like Neil was so
Speaker 1: cool about it. I was fucking and I stormed over
Speaker 1: and I was like, what that was? Yeah? That was anyway. Wait,
Speaker 1: Rachel speaking of fun nights, and I secretly want okay,
Speaker 1: but first, Matt, you go, here's here's what I think
Speaker 1: the Golden Globes is. Like, okay, oh right, let's get
Speaker 1: into it. Well, you wake up in the morning and
Speaker 1: your eyes open and you say this is the day,
Speaker 1: and someone hands you a mimosa, and so then they
Speaker 1: say it's time and you get in the chair, and
Speaker 1: of course you get your glam squad. Now, I would
Speaker 1: get beat to the gods. And I've already thought about
Speaker 1: if I ever go to the Golden Globes what I
Speaker 1: would wear. I would wear a canary yellow tuxedo top
Speaker 1: brings out the olive tones and the black pants because
Speaker 1: I would be positive that I wouldn't win right, so
Speaker 1: then um, when um, when the camera cuts to me
Speaker 1: from what I'm nominating, I would just do the kind
Speaker 1: of phrase of like you can't see but he's it's
Speaker 1: like he's, um, come on a little, it's like he's
Speaker 1: he's he's someone just he's in a business meeting and
Speaker 1: someone just like pitched that they all go home early.
Speaker 1: Come on. Really, there's no way, by the way, I
Speaker 1: should backtrack. So I get all glammed up. I'm literally
Speaker 1: contoured like Kim Kardashian. Oh you you'd get like I
Speaker 1: show up now when you're saying like you get done,
Speaker 1: like are you going to get work like botox before
Speaker 1: this or would never? Just like you know, like just
Speaker 1: like a full face of sup I look like Kimchi. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I I step out of the limousine and immediately
Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio is heading on me. It's just like get
Speaker 1: out of here, leaving alone. I'm with my friends. I
Speaker 1: bring Bow into the ceremony plus one and my plus one.
Speaker 1: He'll be nominated next year the same category. I'm your
Speaker 1: busy phillips. No, actually, I'm busy in your Michelle Williams
Speaker 1: take busy phillips every every every award show, it's always
Speaker 1: Michelle Williams and Busy is always right there. And that's
Speaker 1: why I keep seeing Billy Busy Phillips places. Yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: Busy Phillips is always where Michellilliams is. The award shows
Speaker 1: their dates always, So anyway, I I win and it's
Speaker 1: like this incredibly shocked moment and then the rest of
Speaker 1: the night is just a blur, even in my retelling
Speaker 1: of it right now. So I do want to know,
Speaker 1: can you just walk us through what that is? What
Speaker 1: what is it like to go to the Golden So well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I did this year was um
Speaker 1: because I went to Okay, so the first year I
Speaker 1: was nominated, we were invited to this fancy schmancy fashion
Speaker 1: party at the Chateau Marmont the night before and I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be amazing. I'm nominating and sure enough,
Speaker 1: like I get out of the car, someone immediately takes
Speaker 1: my picture like this great. My husband and I go up.
Speaker 1: No one gives a ship. No one gives a fucking ship.
Speaker 1: The chateau is crowded, by the way. I have to say,
Speaker 1: like these parties that are thrown at the Chateau Marmont,
Speaker 1: which is like it's a tiny space, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of bodies. I I moderated an event for like
Speaker 1: this nonprofit at the chateau, and there was at one
Speaker 1: point a little girl was on stage playing guitar, and
Speaker 1: I literally people were outside talking and I literally went, hey,
Speaker 1: oh god, I went put down the cocaine and shut
Speaker 1: the funk up. Out down a girl. He's playing guitar.
Speaker 1: And it was great. Oh my god, it was great.
Speaker 1: So so we went to the chateau. We ended up
Speaker 1: just being the only people eating the food, which is
Speaker 1: great when you're at like a party in l A.
Speaker 1: There's no line for the food. It was great. And
Speaker 1: so the night before we're like housing food. So so
Speaker 1: then come this year, I get invited to like a
Speaker 1: ton of events, but the night before the Golden Globes,
Speaker 1: and then I get an email from my friends saying,
Speaker 1: and it's half a bit, saying, hey, guys, the Pomona
Speaker 1: Reptile shows in town. Do you want to go? And
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, yeah, because I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm nominated for a Golden Globe. I'm not gonna like
Speaker 1: get more nominated for a Golden Globe going to these events.
Speaker 1: I'm already gonna be on TV. I'm going to the
Speaker 1: Reptile Show. And so by that point that day, I
Speaker 1: had already had my nails done because this year to
Speaker 1: the Globes, I went with um nail art of all
Speaker 1: of the cast members faces. And so I'm at the
Speaker 1: Reptile Show and I'm holding get Gos with my fancy
Speaker 1: nails and just like falling in love with tortoises. And
Speaker 1: and then after we went out for Chinese food because
Speaker 1: we went to Monterey Park for Chinese food because that's
Speaker 1: where all the good Chinese food is um. And then
Speaker 1: so like I just because I just knew, I was
Speaker 1: like all these pre events, like I'm already nominated for
Speaker 1: the big thing, which is the Golden Globe. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: meet some lizards. So so the thing that I I
Speaker 1: want to say the last two years ago I got
Speaker 1: like a facial but like, honestly don't have to, like
Speaker 1: I go to the Globes kind of in the middle
Speaker 1: of filming or like I had just come back from
Speaker 1: vacation this year. So all right, you wake up, your
Speaker 1: eyes flight open, and you're like today's day. No one
Speaker 1: hand you a momissa. I guess you can hire someone
Speaker 1: to do that, take a shower, you eat normally. I mean,
Speaker 1: to be honest, my days have been pretty normal. Like
Speaker 1: glam they called glam, which is hair and makeup. Glam
Speaker 1: squad comes a couple hours before and you sit in
Speaker 1: a chair and they um put the things on you.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing is, I'm not one to like blast
Speaker 1: music while getting here and makeup. I like taking the
Speaker 1: quiet time. So when I get hair and makeup on,
Speaker 1: I meditate. Um. But oh well, we have to know
Speaker 1: is both years I got a dress custom made for
Speaker 1: me by Christian Siriano. He's great. So so I did
Speaker 1: fittings before that, which feels glamorous. But you're also like
Speaker 1: in the fittings and there isn't like music playing. I
Speaker 1: mean I could play music. I guess in all of
Speaker 1: these scenarios, I could be playing music and it would
Speaker 1: make it feel more like But the hair and makeup,
Speaker 1: it's it's beautiful. And then you here's the thing is,
Speaker 1: like you get to the globes and it's just so
Speaker 1: ironically glamorous. It really is, and the red carpet ship
Speaker 1: is is really it's really crazy. I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a skill to learn how to be on it
Speaker 1: because there's people shouting your name and you actually have
Speaker 1: to turn around and kind of stretch out your face
Speaker 1: because you're smiling so much. You start to like twitch
Speaker 1: and oh my god, you don't even think about this ship.
Speaker 1: And well, the first time I did it, I was
Speaker 1: so confused. No one told me what to do, and
Speaker 1: so I thought, I literally everyone who shouted my name.
Speaker 1: I thought I had to just look at them, and
Speaker 1: so I spent all this time looking at each individual camera.
Speaker 1: And then someone was like, no, you just look in
Speaker 1: the general direction and you do whatever the funk you
Speaker 1: want to. Yeah. Um, So that's like a chaotic moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then it's really cool. And then but then like
Speaker 1: you're waiting in line for the red carpet and there's
Speaker 1: like waiting in line and everyone just like waits in line,
Speaker 1: and so then you go in and you sit down
Speaker 1: and it does everyone actually get drunk? Um? I you
Speaker 1: kept it together? Did this year? I got I got
Speaker 1: a little drunk this year. The first year I didn't
Speaker 1: because I was so nervous. And then I won and
Speaker 1: I didn't have time to drink. But this year, Like
Speaker 1: I was pretty sure I wasn't gonna win, and then
Speaker 1: when I didn't, I was just like time to get plastered. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the first year, when you're there, like did you think,
Speaker 1: like I think I might win? Uh? Two days before
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone come out with came out with their predictions
Speaker 1: and they predicted me. And that's when my writing partner
Speaker 1: Rolne was like, baby, you might win, and so I
Speaker 1: wrote a speech was positive. I mean, getting to the
Speaker 1: Globes of the first year was crazy because I step out,
Speaker 1: it's so glad. I'm overwhelmed with how glamorous it is.
Speaker 1: You know, the handy champagne, you're doing, all this red
Speaker 1: carpet stuff you're doing, You're doing entertainment tonight, and like
Speaker 1: you're next to all these celebrities who were like finishing
Speaker 1: up their interviews and I just remember them being like,
Speaker 1: now you're this year's it girl or whatever, and I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I guess. And then you know, you
Speaker 1: win the Globe and then immediately your whist off to
Speaker 1: press and so there's a video online of my press conference,
Speaker 1: but you have You've just won a Golden Globe and
Speaker 1: suddenly earning a press conference and luckily my press conference,
Speaker 1: I talked about diversity and then Israel. So when they
Speaker 1: call it, they call your name, and that's a ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It was overwhelming and I was like maybe expecting it,
Speaker 1: and then when they said it, I was like, oh
Speaker 1: holy and I just my husband screamed like someone had died.
Speaker 1: I I and then I had memorized my speech because
Speaker 1: like I wrote it, I had written it up and
Speaker 1: so that's why, like I had I think in the moment,
Speaker 1: I spoke so fast. I wanted to make sure to
Speaker 1: get everyone's name in. But of course I forgot to
Speaker 1: thank the Hollywood for impressed you did. That speech was great?
Speaker 1: It was, yeah, it was. It was crazy. And then
Speaker 1: the rest of the night I just like walked around
Speaker 1: holding the Golden Globe, which is heavy, and I am
Speaker 1: not fit. Um When you're up there, though, do you
Speaker 1: I guess was Meryl Streep there that year? Did you
Speaker 1: clock the celebs in front of you because you're looking
Speaker 1: you know, I was just kind of looking out into
Speaker 1: the crowd. Yeah, you know what, you know what it was.
Speaker 1: I went into stand up bit mode. The thing is,
Speaker 1: when you're up there, you want to do a bit
Speaker 1: because it's safe. Well, well, it also just feels like
Speaker 1: you're doing a big show, like a big stand up show,
Speaker 1: and so you kind of go into that mode and
Speaker 1: you don't realize, oh no, I'm also on TV. Like
Speaker 1: the Like watching myself on TV after the fact was
Speaker 1: so weird because I remember it being just like you're
Speaker 1: in a not massive room with a group of people
Speaker 1: and you're like, Okay, I gotta play to the room
Speaker 1: a little bit, yeah, a little bit, yes, yes, and
Speaker 1: you have that high from performing. It feels like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think what made that speech so great and so
Speaker 1: genuine and so earnest was you just screaming oh my
Speaker 1: god like that. I don't know. I don't know how
Speaker 1: anyone doesn't, Well, how do you give a composed Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, look, Jennier Lawrence is like won an Oscar
Speaker 1: or whatever. But like you know, when people ask me,
Speaker 1: people ask you. The morning you get nominated is really
Speaker 1: nerve racking because they announced it at five am the
Speaker 1: night before. There's very few things in life where it's
Speaker 1: like you will know at this particular time when a
Speaker 1: massive thing is about to happen. There just aren't things
Speaker 1: like that, especially in actual show business. You don't know
Speaker 1: when someone's gonna call, if they're if you're gonna get apart,
Speaker 1: if they'll ever call, but you're like, Okay, at five
Speaker 1: am tomorrow I will know this. And the same thing
Speaker 1: with the Emmy's where it's like at seven am, I
Speaker 1: will know this and it's fucking nerve wracking. You're adrenaline
Speaker 1: so high. I couldn't sleep. Yeah, the night before the
Speaker 1: Emmys this year was bad. I could not um. It
Speaker 1: feels like the Emmys has a, guess, a little bit
Speaker 1: of a bias towards shows on maybe the c W,
Speaker 1: like the Emmy's doesn't like the Emmys eighteen thou people.
Speaker 1: So it's it's whatever the most kind of I think,
Speaker 1: And that's saying that stuff doesn't deserve it, but like
Speaker 1: it is more known stuff of course because it's the
Speaker 1: Hollywood form presses ninety people the Emmys. Well there you go, so, um,
Speaker 1: what was I gonna say? Uh No, It's like, well,
Speaker 1: at that moment of like knowing the time, it's sort
Speaker 1: of like sort of like theater Camper High School. It's
Speaker 1: like when the Castles goes out, that's exactly That's exactly
Speaker 1: what it feels like. It feels like the cast list
Speaker 1: is going up, and so the morning I got nominated
Speaker 1: for the Globe felt like I won because that was
Speaker 1: just no one saw it coming, and I kind of
Speaker 1: did because I felt good about the press conference that
Speaker 1: I did, but I didn't know. And so when that happened,
Speaker 1: I was, I mean hearing it was. It was Dennis Quaid,
Speaker 1: our friend Jack's dad, and like I was the first
Speaker 1: one because of my name alphabetically. And then this year
Speaker 1: was Don Cheatle and that was that felt like I won.
Speaker 1: Hearing my name. I was like, I'm from chet because
Speaker 1: because of the no but that was huge, I mean
Speaker 1: that was and then unlike this year, we were done filming.
Speaker 1: But the first year, I was in the middle of
Speaker 1: filming and so I had a film later that day
Speaker 1: and everyone gets you drunk because they're handing you champagne.
Speaker 1: I remember you posting about that or something. I remember, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were still shooting. Oh man, I really want to
Speaker 1: bring you to the Golden Gloves now, and you're so
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna like literally step out and Lee I
Speaker 1: was going to be like, hey, I just want to
Speaker 1: really know someone that went to her. She was a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Oh quick, Jamie Fox's daughter close.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it, Soci Bacon, Kevin Bacon. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always the child of a celebrity, which I'm He's like,
Speaker 1: that's trouble. When she told him out old he was
Speaker 1: she was how three young? But you know whatever, He's
Speaker 1: Leo DiCaprio. I just want to can I quickly describe
Speaker 1: my my Golden Globes day. It's super short, because amazing.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that was the firsthand account primary sores. Um,
Speaker 1: I wake up. I put on a sheet mask. I
Speaker 1: let it sit on my face. I'll put on like
Speaker 1: my electric blue suit. I'll walk out. I'll forget my
Speaker 1: sheet mask is still on. I'll bring a huge vat
Speaker 1: of cuticle oil with me and just like dip my
Speaker 1: hands in it in the limo and then I'll just
Speaker 1: pull it out. And then I want to do this
Speaker 1: is like if this is kind of an Amy Streamer
Speaker 1: crawling on the red carpet kind of moment, but I
Speaker 1: want to do a red carpet with a sheet mask
Speaker 1: on my fucking face. That's great, My fear would be
Speaker 1: because that's the one where you can drink. I would
Speaker 1: be a camera ye because knowing my history, it's like
Speaker 1: I was the one that was drunk at every sweet sixteen,
Speaker 1: Like like, yeah, it happens, but it's okay. If you
Speaker 1: get drunk, you're here's the thing, the idea, the idea.
Speaker 1: You know, there's so much composure, like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: they asked you on the They asked me the first
Speaker 1: year I was nominated. They were like, so, what were
Speaker 1: you doing this morning? And a lot of people are like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I didn't even know. I got a
Speaker 1: phone call from my agent or I was at the gym,
Speaker 1: and it's like, fuck, you know, I was up watching
Speaker 1: the broadcast that like the idea, Oh, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: play cool I do. It's for the art, guys. This
Speaker 1: is a show where you're getting a hunk of metal
Speaker 1: for saying things like it's it's all, it's any it's
Speaker 1: it's entertainment. We actually ran into Lena and I went
Speaker 1: to the Vanity Fair Oscar party and we ran into
Speaker 1: one of the producers of the Oscars and they felt
Speaker 1: bad about the whole La La land And here's what
Speaker 1: I and what I said was and this is so
Speaker 1: like my dad. I became my dad. But I was
Speaker 1: like Hey, this is a television show. It's great TV,
Speaker 1: it's great entertainment. It sucks and it's weird, but at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's it's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a it's a show about entertainment. And so the idea
Speaker 1: that like, oh I better not get too drunk, it
Speaker 1: might not be civilized. It's it's like, let's look at
Speaker 1: the Oscars. You know where the Oscars even come from.
Speaker 1: I read about this. Uh, I'm gonna butcher this. But basically,
Speaker 1: Louis B. Mayer in the twenties thirties UH wanted to
Speaker 1: hire people who worked construction on his movies to build
Speaker 1: his house, and people refused because they were like, we're
Speaker 1: in the union. We're not just going to build you
Speaker 1: a house. And the union started to get stronger with
Speaker 1: the teamsters and they were afraid that the actors and
Speaker 1: directors were going to unionize, and they said, well, let's
Speaker 1: distract everyone. Let's have an award show. Let's we'll start
Speaker 1: a thing. We'll call it, m hmm, what's something fancy?
Speaker 1: The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences the OSCARS
Speaker 1: were founded to distract people from unionizing by teamsters, but
Speaker 1: no no, no, just like just like by by the studios. Sure,
Speaker 1: but it's sparked by these teamsters union. But you know
Speaker 1: what you if you really think about, of course it
Speaker 1: was there there could like yeah, it's an industry giving.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing is the critics giving awards is interesting
Speaker 1: because and maybe I'm biased because because you are critically claimed,
Speaker 1: well yes, but also if there's anyone who in the
Speaker 1: Hollywood form press does watch a lot, but but if
Speaker 1: there are people who really watch everything, it's Chris the
Speaker 1: idea of like, because the Television Academy is just everyone
Speaker 1: who's in the industry, it's interesting. This is why the
Speaker 1: t c A is a gag because they give one
Speaker 1: person the award for Drama and one person the award
Speaker 1: for Comedy. And they gave you the award for comedy
Speaker 1: and that is big and they don't make mistakes. They
Speaker 1: always give it to someone who's super deserving. It was
Speaker 1: you and Sarah Paulson for people v o J to
Speaker 1: give you a fucking idea. It was It was a
Speaker 1: really it was really amazing. Um yeah, that was really cool.
Speaker 1: Cool That night was really cool. That's just I always
Speaker 1: watched the Critics Choice Awards and and like I always
Speaker 1: like Clark when I see who they've given that award to,
Speaker 1: and I always make sure to seek that out. And
Speaker 1: of course I had already been watching in Crazy X,
Speaker 1: but I was just like it was, it's just incredible.
Speaker 1: And I want to give a shout out to watch
Speaker 1: you on screen and a show that you created. It's
Speaker 1: your brainchild. And also know that my Palpatel writes for
Speaker 1: your show and I went to school to learn how
Speaker 1: to write with her, and she's amazing. She's fantastic. The
Speaker 1: second lane read script, she's like this, I want this person.
Speaker 1: This person is brilliant. I'm so proud of her, and
Speaker 1: I I don't because I'm in New York still and
Speaker 1: she's in l A obviously doing her thing. I don't
Speaker 1: see her enough. But it's crazy because Billy Domino and
Speaker 1: me and so No and my friend Alice Roth, who's
Speaker 1: a writer producer in New York now we all went.
Speaker 1: We were in like every class together, and then to
Speaker 1: see them going to this great success, it's just it's
Speaker 1: so wild. It makes you think, I said to this
Speaker 1: when when you started to really check off, and when
Speaker 1: my friend's study got hired by Usanella. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I said to you, I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: this community that we had a feeling was special, really was.
Speaker 1: And that was very emotional for me. I was like,
Speaker 1: I just was It's just so great. Yeah, oh my god, surreal.
Speaker 1: Should we move on to I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: think it's time. Oh yeah, and I want you to
Speaker 1: give me something to rant about it. I think, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll dig into the trouble for you. Then, so guys, um,
Speaker 1: oh wait, can I say one more thing? So I'm
Speaker 1: making my network television debut. What on April I will
Speaker 1: be a contestant on who Wants to Be a Millionaire? What?
Speaker 1: Chris Harris Who? I shot this back in August. I
Speaker 1: went on a fucking whim. I went after work one
Speaker 1: day still I'm waiting tables. I get an email from
Speaker 1: like UCB or the Pit or whatever like hey, they're
Speaker 1: casting for for a Millionaire. And I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I knew all these people, Kristin Bartlett, John Bander, Duffy Duffy,
Speaker 1: Kevin McClean, all these people who had been on fucking Millionaire,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, how are they getting this? I guess
Speaker 1: they want like personalities, right, So of course they reat
Speaker 1: out to the comedy theaters. I get this email that's like,
Speaker 1: we're going to be auditioning for contestants for Millionaire. I'm like,
Speaker 1: my one friend won a hundred k on it. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm definitely going. So I go down there.
Speaker 1: I like, pass the test, get interviewed by the producer.
Speaker 1: I guess they like me enough. Pass me on, do
Speaker 1: this like fake screen tests? Passed me on. Finally I
Speaker 1: get an email, You're going you're going to be a contestant. God,
Speaker 1: So I shot it in August. I can't say anything
Speaker 1: about how it went, but I was going to be
Speaker 1: your So do you get a phone of friend? But
Speaker 1: now it's not phone a friend, it's you can bring
Speaker 1: a friend in the audience. So I said, because Bowen
Speaker 1: is very much the other half of my brain, Like
Speaker 1: I'm very like, you know, like, what is it, right, brain?
Speaker 1: You don't want to you don't want to bring that.
Speaker 1: You don't want to bring someone who's the other half
Speaker 1: of your brain because it's going to tell you what
Speaker 1: you already know. The thing is like the reason I
Speaker 1: want somehow it will tell you. This thing here is
Speaker 1: very scientifically mathematically minded. And also Bowen is genuinely the
Speaker 1: smartest person right now, you really are anyway, and so anyway,
Speaker 1: he couldn't go. So I chose the second smartest person
Speaker 1: I know, Sudy Green. So she comes with me to Vegas.
Speaker 1: We go, Oh my god, let's just say you're gonna
Speaker 1: want to tune in and it's going to be a
Speaker 1: wild episode. I wish you were in l A because
Speaker 1: we would all have a little screening party. Let's have
Speaker 1: a screening party. I'll be into it. We had plans
Speaker 1: to go to Disneyland that day, but I feel like
Speaker 1: we gotta have a screen We gotta have screen you
Speaker 1: know what. I volunteer my house. Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: would love We'll do it in my house. Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: double check my schedule. I get back the sixteen and
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna work. But I wanted to say
Speaker 1: it now because this episode will come out I think
Speaker 1: than twelve. So you guys, and I'll say it again
Speaker 1: for the episode. We're gonna have Miss Darcy Cardon on
Speaker 1: the next episode of Cultures. We're so excited and um
Speaker 1: so I'll say it again on that episode. But you guys,
Speaker 1: for twenty. Matt Rodgers is on Who Wants to Be
Speaker 1: a Millionaire? And I don't want to tune in because
Speaker 1: there might be some good moments. You kept this, kept
Speaker 1: things very close to the best, because not even I
Speaker 1: know what happens in this Wow and Chris Harris, I
Speaker 1: gotta say, I'm I'm I'm pretty curious about this. I
Speaker 1: will gladly, I'll host. I'll host the doing Alright, alright,
Speaker 1: Good's noon. Whenever airs like ABC, it like, oh maybe
Speaker 1: see the thing is Yeah, you think it's still like
Speaker 1: a prime time show, but now it's like it's like
Speaker 1: on every day at noon on ABC. I think it
Speaker 1: comes on after the View there, so all my all,
Speaker 1: my fan base will be already watching ABC. Of course,
Speaker 1: my demographic is women who watched the view like me.
Speaker 1: Remember when it was weekly and you had to wait
Speaker 1: until the next week. It was television events. I remember
Speaker 1: when I remember his name. I remember when John Carpenter
Speaker 1: one a million dollars was the first one and the
Speaker 1: question was how far away is the sun from the Earth? No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it was it was who was on? Who was the
Speaker 1: first president to be on network television? The answer was Nixon.
Speaker 1: On laughing that was on. Well okay, Well then there
Speaker 1: was another episode which was the answer was the sun
Speaker 1: is ninety three million miles away from the Earth. You
Speaker 1: remember that, nu, I remember it very clearly. So maybe
Speaker 1: maybe we're maybe both of us are. One of us
Speaker 1: is right, one of us is right. Okay, So guys,
Speaker 1: who's right? Me or Golden Globe winner Rachel? Take your
Speaker 1: take your sides, multiple choice quests. Remember that I will
Speaker 1: go to the Golden Globes one day and I'll be
Speaker 1: wearing canary. So, um, that's fantastic. Um, you guys, I
Speaker 1: cannot wait to watch. I'm so excited. I also think
Speaker 1: I possibly might look dumb, but um, don't spoil. But
Speaker 1: I'm not spoiling. I'm just saying I'm definitely on. And
Speaker 1: Sudie Green is my plus one and oh my god,
Speaker 1: she was one a million dollars and you were keeping
Speaker 1: it like this close to the vest this whole time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm not a good secret keeper, so it's been very
Speaker 1: hard for me to not tell, especially because I shot
Speaker 1: it a long time. I didn't tell anyone, and I
Speaker 1: didn't tell well, I did not tell anyone, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was hard. Have you noticed him fanning himself with money.
Speaker 1: I have a case full of money behind me, calling
Speaker 1: people in Switzerland. I don't know. Yeah, he's been like change,
Speaker 1: he's changed. Um, but you guys watch Yeah, so listen
Speaker 1: this next segment we have, it's the one you've open
Speaker 1: fucking waiting for. Um, we had our live show lost
Speaker 1: coature racist, I don't think so, Honey. Again, I want
Speaker 1: to say thank you guys so much for making it
Speaker 1: such a success. We're so excited about it, and there's
Speaker 1: gonna be. You should definitely stay tuned because I think
Speaker 1: we're going to be maybe doing another live show very soon.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, maybe even one in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Everyone that features Rachel Bloom have but try
Speaker 1: to get you. You let me know what you do it.
Speaker 1: I heard you're doing the story parts benefit. I'm so
Speaker 1: excited your story part. No, but I just I'm friends
Speaker 1: with a lot of story parts. Yeah. So honestly, you
Speaker 1: got it and you guys both story parts were both
Speaker 1: story parts. No god, I have so many friends in
Speaker 1: story part. It's the best for those of you who
Speaker 1: don't know story parts. Amazing collective of people. We take
Speaker 1: stories that kids right, making mental shows and there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a benefit this year, one in l a one
Speaker 1: in New York there in May, early to mid May.
Speaker 1: Got to check it out. I don't know this dates,
Speaker 1: but looking up story parts and Rachel's going to perform um.
Speaker 1: But you, guys, I don't think so, honey. It's one
Speaker 1: minute to rail against culture, something that's really been bugging.
Speaker 1: I've really been sucking us up, and we get takes
Speaker 1: sixty seconds to really go for it here, Um, do
Speaker 1: you have something I do? Okay, here we go. I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna go first. And I got my eye
Speaker 1: on the time bo when Yang starts now, I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. People at Soul Cycle steal your umbrellas
Speaker 1: when it's a rainy fucking day. We went yesterday morning
Speaker 1: for a Gaga versus Beyonce soul Cycle themed ride. I
Speaker 1: got my life. My endorphins are coursing through my fucking body.
Speaker 1: And guess what. I walked to the front door, check
Speaker 1: the bucket. What was not there? My twelve dollar black
Speaker 1: umbrella from Mooji that is durable and has lasted me
Speaker 1: months and munch. I don't think so my months. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. People it's souls who think that
Speaker 1: it's action, that there are a rock star soul, a
Speaker 1: rock star athlete, warrior, whatever the fucking things on the
Speaker 1: posters saying that they they have that that they have
Speaker 1: the right to steal people's umbrellas in people's protections from
Speaker 1: the elements. I don't think so, honey. You cannot take
Speaker 1: when I am trying to just live my life in
Speaker 1: the city and walked work down Spring Street. Honey, I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. I am dressed a soul warrior
Speaker 1: who needs sol umbrella and don't you dare fucking touch
Speaker 1: my my fucking power of Louis. There's some French for you.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. That's one minute bow and passion.
Speaker 1: You had the fire in your thank you. I'm um,
Speaker 1: you know what that that wasn't my strongest, but I
Speaker 1: really meant it. But you know what I could tell
Speaker 1: and I want to let everyone know listening at home,
Speaker 1: that he meant it. I thank you, thank you so much. Um,
Speaker 1: So don't you dared? Just don't this happened to be
Speaker 1: a d c M. Last year someone stolen umbrella. Fuck
Speaker 1: you d c M. Motherfucker's just as we talked about it.
Speaker 1: You did. I gotta listen to that episode. It's fun. Okay,
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers, are you ready for I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: I'm ready. This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so
Speaker 1: many time starts now, I don't think so, honey. Lake Michigan.
Speaker 1: I went with my boyfriend Henry to visit his parents,
Speaker 1: and bitch, I rolled up on Lake Michigan, and you
Speaker 1: look like a ocean. Let me tell you something. If
Speaker 1: I'm seeing waves caress the sand, I'd better be looking
Speaker 1: at the Long Island Sound. You're telling me you are
Speaker 1: fresh water, and you still look like an ocean. Don't
Speaker 1: funk with me. Also, you could never compete with an
Speaker 1: ocean because the ocean has much cooler marine life and
Speaker 1: they're much more dangerous. What's going to be in your lake?
Speaker 1: Some fucking fat Guess what? In the ocean we have octopus,
Speaker 1: In the ocean, we have seals, and the ocean we
Speaker 1: have a whale. And what do you have? Not even sharks?
Speaker 1: Some of you have alligators and not you like Michigan,
Speaker 1: because guess what all yours too fucking cold. When I
Speaker 1: see a big gest body of water and I look
Speaker 1: out and I can't see the other side of the land.
Speaker 1: I better smell salt, and if I don't, I'm not
Speaker 1: gaged five seconds. Let me tell you something like Michigan.
Speaker 1: Fuck you, I don't think and that's one minute. Wow,
Speaker 1: this is a historic never before has there been and
Speaker 1: I don't think so. When he gets the body of water,
Speaker 1: that's that was that was fantastic. Was just with mac
Speaker 1: Garring and he says, Hi, by the way, Hi man,
Speaker 1: and I was telling He asked if I had ever
Speaker 1: been to Michigan, because I told him Henry was from Michigan.
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, and might tell you. I
Speaker 1: went to see Lake Michigan and I was shocked because
Speaker 1: it looked like an ocean, it didn't look like a lake,
Speaker 1: and because the waves like the way that they appear
Speaker 1: on the land. I was just like very confused. And
Speaker 1: so he was like, wow, that sounds like you're upset,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, that's my I don't think.
Speaker 1: So it's fantastic and I was gonna do my I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey about straight men who come for
Speaker 1: big little because I see you, I see you, I
Speaker 1: see you saying you don't like Granada. I don't give
Speaker 1: a funk if you don't like Granada. I don't like
Speaker 1: any character and always sunny in Philadelphia. I put up
Speaker 1: with your ship anyway, coming for all the need to
Speaker 1: watch it. I gotta come for the Straits. But wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, before you do this, Big Little Eyes finale
Speaker 1: has aired, you guys, and it was really amazing, and
Speaker 1: you gotta watches and Rachel when you haven't been, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do I mean, you know what. I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: it all on here. You should. It's all on HBO,
Speaker 1: all right. So I'm particularly angry at anything right now,
Speaker 1: which is weird for me. I'm just I think I'm
Speaker 1: too tired because I flew in today. So I want
Speaker 1: you to give me a topic to rand about and
Speaker 1: I will get angry at it for you. So you guys,
Speaker 1: I'm digging into the troll Ball, which is a new
Speaker 1: introduction for Rachel Bloom and I have to give credit
Speaker 1: to and Dresden who came up with the idea for
Speaker 1: the troll Ball. Um. But here we go. I'm just
Speaker 1: digging through. Okay, I got it, all right, I have
Speaker 1: a good one. Okay, Okay, Well, I don't really know
Speaker 1: if I should do this, because she's another public figure,
Speaker 1: So I don't know if I should do this. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say Mariska hergot but I don't want you
Speaker 1: to come from Ariska heart attack. I don't know much
Speaker 1: about Mariska. Okay, So, Rachel Rachel Bloom, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: He let me just get the time set up. This
Speaker 1: is going to be good your Rachel Rachel Blues. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Is kindergarten go? I don't think so, honey. Kindergarten?
Speaker 1: What are you? Are you a grade or are you preschool?
Speaker 1: I thought I was done with this nebulous grading ship
Speaker 1: in preschool. I think that's what I went to fucking
Speaker 1: sorry for. When I go to an elementary school, I
Speaker 1: want to be given a great kindergarten. Also, what's with
Speaker 1: the German name? I'm Jewish? What are we a bunch
Speaker 1: of fucking Nazis? Kindergarten? Why don't you just call it
Speaker 1: like child time? I would much rather go. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. I don't
Speaker 1: go to an elementary school to be eating brat wars
Speaker 1: and drinking a rottler, which is what Germans do when
Speaker 1: they mix beer in sparkling lemonade. I want to eat.
Speaker 1: I want to eat American food at my child time,
Speaker 1: and preferably call it grade zero if you're gonna like
Speaker 1: not number it. And also it's not a garden but
Speaker 1: child garden child time. I don't think so, honey. Also
Speaker 1: epic and I never realized kindergarten. It's a German word
Speaker 1: kinda kinda. I live in America, Yes, I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: my family is fled Europe. If I wanted kindergarten, I
Speaker 1: I would have stid honestly. Wait. Speaking of change dot org,
Speaker 1: I started one as a joke and it became a thing.
Speaker 1: Don't let the Donald trump animatronic in Disney World speak.
Speaker 1: I heard this one. Did you did it? Catch team
Speaker 1: has signatures not nearly enough to change anything, and that
Speaker 1: animatronic will speak. But I felt good that enough people
Speaker 1: were like on my side about it. Can you fucking
Speaker 1: believe that it's disgusting? It's fully gross, terrible, But let's
Speaker 1: start the change or petition. Now change kindergarten to child time,
Speaker 1: child time. It's just child Tiid's gonna understand what it
Speaker 1: means child time, child time, and I think there should
Speaker 1: be more singing. I think it should be more child time.
Speaker 1: It's child times town, b it's to the tune of
Speaker 1: its quiet uptown of town. It's child town. There are
Speaker 1: moments that that the toys don't read. There's a nap time,
Speaker 1: impossible to bed. You put your coat up on hook
Speaker 1: and then you do some um listen, guys, barely ever read? Yes,
Speaker 1: you can barely ever read, barely ever read? You, guys.
Speaker 1: I feel like I could talk to you forever. I honestly,
Speaker 1: Rachel is the best. And if you're not watching Crazy
Speaker 1: Ex Girlfriend? I mean, what's the overlap of people listening
Speaker 1: to this podcast and not watching Craziest Girlfriend? You know what?
Speaker 1: I don't know that that that compliments my show too much.
Speaker 1: I don't know who's I don't know what. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know? Well, okay, so have you started season three?
Speaker 1: We've started kind of. Aleen and I have started writing
Speaker 1: it ourselves, like before the room. You mentioned on your
Speaker 1: Facebook live a couple days ago that you guys had
Speaker 1: written the first song, yes, which is very exciting. I
Speaker 1: just can't wait to find out what it is. I
Speaker 1: can't you find out what the theme song is. Is
Speaker 1: there going to be a whole new theme song? Yes,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, balls to the wall, bonkers with how
Speaker 1: Rebecca is now? Um, that's so exciting. You don't know
Speaker 1: what your target demo was, the target demos, I just
Speaker 1: don't know, Like it's overlapping, like people who listened to
Speaker 1: this podcast, like I don't, I don't know, like the
Speaker 1: Ranchers in the Person on the Street. You know what,
Speaker 1: if you listen to this podcast and you know, watch
Speaker 1: Craziest Girlfriend, don't you dare fucking listen to another episode subscribed?
Speaker 1: We don't want you. We don't want you your review, honey,
Speaker 1: we are growing, we're moving on from you. Also, I
Speaker 1: want to end this was one thought. It's fascinating to
Speaker 1: watch Big Little Lies and Feud at the same time.
Speaker 1: There you go. I was going to mention something about
Speaker 1: Feud being a show about entertainment, which is what we touched.
Speaker 1: You know what, that's what I want to watch both
Speaker 1: of them. You should watch both of them because, let
Speaker 1: me tell you, actually is fascinating to watch them both
Speaker 1: because we have big Little lies, which is this, like
Speaker 1: you know, just like I think crowning and treatment of
Speaker 1: television right now, which is giving all these incredible women
Speaker 1: these incredible parts. And then to watch Feud, and a
Speaker 1: central topic of the show is like, there are no
Speaker 1: roles for us, we must make this work, and to
Speaker 1: watch them like companion pieces, and so there are companion
Speaker 1: peoples in the way because you know, Feud discusses that
Speaker 1: topic so much. And then they're so all the actresses
Speaker 1: are so amazing, and they're all going to be competing
Speaker 1: in the same category at the Emmy's and you go
Speaker 1: online and it's like, no, she's better, No, she's better
Speaker 1: by the way. Oh that's so interesting. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Nicole and Rees are both so amazing.
Speaker 1: I love Big Little Less, I love female friendship. Now
Speaker 1: who should win? It's so there's this movie um with
Speaker 1: Kevin Klein called In and Out for many years ago.
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it in many years, so I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if it's offensive. Here we go. I watched it
Speaker 1: about a year ago and it's not. Okay, great. There's
Speaker 1: a line from it it's Christian who plays who plays
Speaker 1: Cameron Drake? Matt Dylan, Matt Dylan, Matt Dylan plays Cameron Drake.
Speaker 1: He's at the Oscars and they go, what do you
Speaker 1: think of the Oscars? And he goes, I think it's
Speaker 1: wrong the actors be forced to compete against each other
Speaker 1: like dogs, and they go, so why are you here
Speaker 1: in case I win? Yes, it's so good. That movie
Speaker 1: is great. It's a great movie. Right now? What movie
Speaker 1: is home? Apho book looking Back? Oh no, Miss Congeniality.
Speaker 1: With Michael Kane's character, Michael Caine is like his cold
Speaker 1: character is like gay and like Benjamin Brattol characters like dude,
Speaker 1: I'm not gay. It doesn't hold up, but Sandra Bullock
Speaker 1: does hold up in it. Sandra Bullock queen, that movie
Speaker 1: is great. Although they did steal a line from a
Speaker 1: League of their Own eyebrows, there should be too, Michael
Speaker 1: Kane goes, eyebrows, that should be too, And that is
Speaker 1: a line from a League of their Own in the
Speaker 1: finishing school scene. And I know what if you listen
Speaker 1: to this podcast and you like Miss Congeniality, we don't
Speaker 1: want to, we don't want you to take your view
Speaker 1: off iTunes. But if but League of their Own is
Speaker 1: the truth, there you go. My husband and I watched
Speaker 1: that movie a couple of months ago and we in
Speaker 1: the marl Of scene, wept. We both wept and and
Speaker 1: and I'm not I used to be a crier when
Speaker 1: I was depressed, and now I'm on pros X, I
Speaker 1: don't cry as much. Um and I wept. Honestly, that
Speaker 1: movie makes me cry. And this is a little known movie,
Speaker 1: and we should wrap up. But this We're gonna wrap
Speaker 1: up with this, the three movies that make us cry,
Speaker 1: all right. It's a film called Heart and Souls with
Speaker 1: Robert Downey Jr. And Curius Sedgwick and Alfrey Woodard Alfrey
Speaker 1: Queen Queen Alfrey. And it's about four people who die
Speaker 1: in a bus accident and becomes souls in the fifties.
Speaker 1: And they get attached to Robert Downey Jr. When he's
Speaker 1: a baby, and they become his guardian angels. And they
Speaker 1: have to leave him when he's a child because they
Speaker 1: realize he's they're distracting him. But then they they are involved.
Speaker 1: When he gets he becomes like an obnoxious adult, and
Speaker 1: they realize that they can only move on to their
Speaker 1: afterlife when he helps them fulfill their unfinished business. But
Speaker 1: he's also got a lot of problems. It's a wonderful movie.
Speaker 1: It's really kind of cheesy and campy, but let me
Speaker 1: tell you it will make you weep. Queen Alfrey water
Speaker 1: rule number one culture Queen and Alfrey waded amazing a
Speaker 1: top of mind. And I've just been coming up with
Speaker 1: these basic answers on the last few episodes, like with
Speaker 1: these quin kinds of questions like finding Nemo gets me
Speaker 1: every time. I'm sorry, it does. It really truly does,
Speaker 1: especially when he leaves Dory. Again basic. But I'm owning
Speaker 1: up to it and that, of course you must, you
Speaker 1: simply must, Rachel. You know what I well, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen it in the years, but you know a movie
Speaker 1: made me bawl my eyes out, the Adam Sandler movie Click.
Speaker 1: Actually it's snuck up on me and I bawled my
Speaker 1: eyes out. But I want to add a secondary addendum,
Speaker 1: which is a redundancy a thing that always makes me cry.
Speaker 1: Uh is um It's not a movie. It's the episode
Speaker 1: of Futurama about Fry's dolls. Yes, people talk about that
Speaker 1: dog looks like my dog, and like, literally just thinking
Speaker 1: about it, like I get you, truly had a moment
Speaker 1: like this dog, oh my god, this dog waited for
Speaker 1: him and literally the spoiler alert, the episode ends with
Speaker 1: fries dog back in your two thousand, just like it
Speaker 1: turns out the dog waited for him every single day,
Speaker 1: and then one day the dog just like lays down
Speaker 1: and close his eyes, and then the episode. You don't
Speaker 1: expect that from I am not a crier. But if
Speaker 1: you talk, if you, if you talk about dead dogs,
Speaker 1: I can't handle dead dog shit. Don't see Marley and me.
Speaker 1: I've actually never seen Mary. Yeah, here's I have a
Speaker 1: dog and it's my She's my first dog. Was this
Speaker 1: the one that you took in that one time? No,
Speaker 1: because I remember one time you took in a dog
Speaker 1: and you like wrote something in Facebook like, hey guys,
Speaker 1: we found a dog. We found a dog and then
Speaker 1: we found the owners that night. Good kid. Um No,
Speaker 1: but but my dog is a rescue and she's like
Speaker 1: seven and a half now, and and my writing partner
Speaker 1: very expressly I grew up with dogs and was like,
Speaker 1: I don't have dogs my own because I can't deal
Speaker 1: with when they get like old and die. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: my dog will never die. So do you follow old
Speaker 1: friends sancs very on Facebook? No? What is that? It's
Speaker 1: a senior Dog. No, No, they're so happy and they're
Speaker 1: they're having a good time. It's going to make you
Speaker 1: cry old friends, and they're also sweet guys. Um, I
Speaker 1: want you all to shut your eyes and I want
Speaker 1: to say thank you so much for listening to this
Speaker 1: episode of Last Colture says, and I want to thank
Speaker 1: Rachel Bloom than you be on our show and that's dying.
Speaker 1: Um My, guys, my name is Matt Rogers. Thank you, Rachel.
Speaker 1: We love you. Bye. This has been a Forever Dog
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