Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. I feel like that we needn't do
Speaker 1: play Sta Cowboys victory. Yes, yeah, you know why. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's for me because that kind of parking space. Hey man,
Speaker 1: when you have the most popular team in the world
Speaker 1: a time, there's a lot of more people down here
Speaker 1: at the Star. Everybody's coming out going. Well, Tuesday's a
Speaker 1: busy work day here, absolute Tuesday. Busy work day that
Speaker 1: not everybody. Monday. Tuesday is the slowest day in the world.
Speaker 1: But it's like for other people working in the in
Speaker 1: the building here, other outside the Cowboys because it's not
Speaker 1: a busy work day for Cowboys players. No, it is
Speaker 1: an off day for Cowboys players, but it is a
Speaker 1: busy day as far as the buzz around this team,
Speaker 1: don't you know, Everson Walls, welcome back that we missed
Speaker 1: you yesterday. I missed you guys. What did you think
Speaker 1: of the game? I love it? I loved it, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's typical of NFL games from a
Speaker 1: team headed up versus a team headed down. You know,
Speaker 1: they came in with a great game plan. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the Colts, I really did. I thought they came
Speaker 1: in with a great game plan. They did what they
Speaker 1: were good at. They ran that ball, and I was
Speaker 1: kind of proud of our defense. Yes, we gave up
Speaker 1: a lot of running yards, but we were never threatened.
Speaker 1: I never saw us panicking on the field, and I
Speaker 1: think we were always poised to make the plays to
Speaker 1: stop their drives. Yeah, because if they didn't hand them
Speaker 1: those easy scoring opportunities, they would have never scored. And
Speaker 1: we handed them a couple of more, but they didn't.
Speaker 1: They couldn't captivate on it because we are balling like
Speaker 1: we're balling defensively. I see no panic in this team.
Speaker 1: You know last year we were panicking because there were
Speaker 1: certain teams that didn't just come in here and surprise us.
Speaker 1: They came in here and crushed us. Yeah. I can't
Speaker 1: get that on my head. I'm sorry, but that to me,
Speaker 1: the Denver game was typical of how this team was
Speaker 1: and you know, being insensitive front runners. Defensively, we were
Speaker 1: front runners. That is not this team. That is not
Speaker 1: this defense this year. We give up yards, but it's
Speaker 1: not in chunks, and we always seem to be able
Speaker 1: to make the play to get us off the field.
Speaker 1: Did go Did the Cowboys really blow out the Colts?
Speaker 1: Did they really blow them out? For one quarter? One quarter? One?
Speaker 1: Thirty three to nothing in the fourth quarter? It was
Speaker 1: twenty one to nineteen through three quarters, But at twenty
Speaker 1: one to nineteen, I thought we were still in control.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a twenty one. It wasn't. It didn't look
Speaker 1: like this is gonna be fifty four to nineteen that came.
Speaker 1: But that's what happens when they exhaust all efforts and
Speaker 1: by that time the cup is empty. Okay, let me
Speaker 1: ask you put it in this context. You saw did
Speaker 1: you see the Ohio State Michigan game and everyone's talking
Speaker 1: about how Michigan blew out Ohiston? I mean, and they
Speaker 1: did in the fourth quarter fourth quarter of that game.
Speaker 1: It was a no contest. It was. It was the
Speaker 1: Ohio State Michigan equivalent of a thirty three to nothing
Speaker 1: Cowboys on slought against the Colts. Okay, but but Ohio
Speaker 1: State had the lead at halftime of that game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was a close game all the way to
Speaker 1: the end of the third quarter. And so people were
Speaker 1: talking about, well, how State doesn't deserve to be in
Speaker 1: the playoff because they just got humiliated by Michigan. They
Speaker 1: got humiliated for one quarter against most of the people
Speaker 1: that don't watch the games. That's right. But I think
Speaker 1: what you see as as as a guy that you know,
Speaker 1: you can see the doom and gloom coming because Ohio
Speaker 1: State still they couldn't stop what Michigan was good at
Speaker 1: that day, and that was the big place, and I
Speaker 1: think Michigan knew they could make those big plays all
Speaker 1: day long. It's happened in a certain extent with Southern
Speaker 1: col in Utah. Southern Cal got off to that was
Speaker 1: what they were fourteen doesn't start the game, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was like seventy three. Yeah, I want to watch this,
Speaker 1: And then as I did, it's like, yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to watch yeah. And so when it relates to the Cowboys, um,
Speaker 1: and we've we've got enough of a track record of
Speaker 1: this team now and this isn't the first time that
Speaker 1: they've getted a like a fourth quarter on slot and
Speaker 1: just uh. And now they've got three of the last
Speaker 1: five games, so they've scored forty or more points and
Speaker 1: some of that is defense as well. But yeah, but um,
Speaker 1: it's from a coaching standpoint, especially when you're facing a
Speaker 1: one ten and one Texans team this week and then
Speaker 1: Jacksonville the following week, I think you make every point
Speaker 1: in the world that this was a twenty one nineteen
Speaker 1: game the third quarter. This wasn't the blowout that everybody
Speaker 1: is talking about at home. If you're away from home, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got to context. You have to keep it in
Speaker 1: context as as a team to make sure they don't
Speaker 1: get the big head that you know and start listening
Speaker 1: to everybody who's saying, oh man, what a not too
Speaker 1: dismiss Houston at all. But what really scares me is
Speaker 1: when you're on the vote, how do you how do
Speaker 1: you perform on the vote in that fourth quarter? Because
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if Jacksonville lets us go in there
Speaker 1: and just push them all over the place. They would
Speaker 1: fight like college kids, you know, they would fight like
Speaker 1: in a college game to where anything can happen that
Speaker 1: kind of environment. By the way, Jacksonville had the same
Speaker 1: kind of game where they lost to Detroit forty to fourteen. Yeah, first,
Speaker 1: wait on the road for Jacksonville. When they get home,
Speaker 1: it's crazy out there. And so we need to be
Speaker 1: as a team. We need to be poised enough to where, Okay,
Speaker 1: this was a game at home, when we go on
Speaker 1: the road, we put those same ingredients in there. How
Speaker 1: does that fourth quarter play out on the road versus
Speaker 1: a younger quarterback and a more dynamic offense. And this
Speaker 1: gets a little bit inflated by this last fourth quarter, right,
Speaker 1: But I just had this notion, and I look in
Speaker 1: the second half, the Cowboys have outscored their opponents one
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety eight two, one hundred ninety to eighty two.
Speaker 1: And they've outscored their opponent in every quarter except the second,
Speaker 1: when it's a ninety to ninety time go figure, right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's pretty remarkable. And then the only unfortunate
Speaker 1: part of this is in overtime they got outscored three
Speaker 1: to nothing. Otherwise you're looking at a two ten and
Speaker 1: two team right now. So they've done something right. So
Speaker 1: no one can come in and say they don't know
Speaker 1: how to make halftime adjustments. Yeah, right, And and we
Speaker 1: we seem to come out of halftime with momentum, not
Speaker 1: just the knowledge. Yeah, and if it's not, the third
Speaker 1: quarter ends up being the fourth quarter, and we we
Speaker 1: just lay on them. I remember being with the Giants
Speaker 1: and there I heard plash and say something like, people
Speaker 1: are just afraid of us. Yeah, he said, they're really
Speaker 1: afraid of us. I could see that in New York
Speaker 1: they weren't afraid of meet They're afraid those big old
Speaker 1: foods seven and I can see that they were afraid
Speaker 1: of them. And so we were never in a position
Speaker 1: to wear in a panic situation, and so that poise
Speaker 1: helped us. I think these guys feel the same way. Defensively,
Speaker 1: they have pois Even even when the coach were threatening,
Speaker 1: they still had the poise. They still didn't make silly plays,
Speaker 1: they didn't have the huge plays they made them still
Speaker 1: work for it offensively. But that defense, to me, they're
Speaker 1: always poised to explode at the right time. They only
Speaker 1: had one really bad play defensively. It was the forty
Speaker 1: five yard completion that set up there only touchdown until
Speaker 1: the third quarter. So, yeah, I saw you bod Digs
Speaker 1: peeping people around the people around the corner. He was
Speaker 1: he was playing a plant one. I mean by by
Speaker 1: the huddle, he was five yards inside. I saw you
Speaker 1: you have a veteran quarterback. He looks over there. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's obviously playing the slant. He didn't even have to
Speaker 1: get him a good inside. See. I thought when I
Speaker 1: when I resaw that play, I thought they were in
Speaker 1: zone and he was supposed to be inside because he
Speaker 1: was so far inside, and then he jumped inside. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: it's funny because that is just typical greed by defensive back.
Speaker 1: It just got greedy. I thought, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you could do it from that play. You never even
Speaker 1: saw Digs and the game, that entire game, and he
Speaker 1: never they never threw his way. And Michael Pittman until
Speaker 1: the very end of the game, you never saw Michael Pittman. Really,
Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna say. He was covering Pittman. Yeah, absolutely, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was you know, all's well, that ends well, and
Speaker 1: they and they continued it end very well. I mean
Speaker 1: we're talking defensively as well. But you know, I like
Speaker 1: to give a credit by credit, this dude Ceee Lamb
Speaker 1: is trying to become that leader on this offense and
Speaker 1: at a young age. He's gonna have to do it,
Speaker 1: and he's doing well, what is the last at least
Speaker 1: three games. And it's not just the yardage, it's the
Speaker 1: extra things he's doing, you know. I see him trying
Speaker 1: to break tackles him. Boy, he's not trying to be cute.
Speaker 1: He's out there playing a real man's football game. And
Speaker 1: that's what I saw in Oklahoma. And he's finally showing
Speaker 1: it here. Can't be cute out there. You got a
Speaker 1: ball out and he is doing it. I like it.
Speaker 1: So they have held their opponents now nine of twelve
Speaker 1: times to no more than twenty points. You should have
Speaker 1: a chance to win when you do that. That's why
Speaker 1: that first game still sticks in my crop. Held Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay to nineteen points, he got beat. Did you watch
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay last night? I did not. I fell asleep.
Speaker 1: I hope you woke up with three minutes. No. I
Speaker 1: fell asleep with seventeen three and I woke up and
Speaker 1: it was over, and I go, what are they talking about?
Speaker 1: This game was over? Long time? Sixteen to three sixteen? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because seven three minutes the last three minutes of that game. Wow, typical.
Speaker 1: The roof caved in. Well, I mean by the time
Speaker 1: they beat them. Jeez, that's true. That's true. They have
Speaker 1: a street going against Brady. It's the first time in
Speaker 1: the regular season in Tom Brady's career that he has
Speaker 1: come back from a deficit of more than thirteen points
Speaker 1: in the or thirteen points or more in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter to win a game. That's it. Yep. One other
Speaker 1: time in his career he has done it. That was
Speaker 1: in a Super Bowl Atlanta. That's right, the guy. It's
Speaker 1: it's like, it's like the Aikman deal. You know, when
Speaker 1: Aikman was playing. Everyone everyone's talking about all these great
Speaker 1: John Elway comebacks, and well, if you're ahead all the time,
Speaker 1: they don't have opportunities for comeback wins. But so Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay is sitting there by winning that game, they're six
Speaker 1: and six now, and they're in command in the afc
Speaker 1: SE Devastated by the way command They are saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: well two games lead on everybody. If two account how
Speaker 1: devastating that loss was for New Orleans. Yeah no, I mean,
Speaker 1: you aren't even thinking a chance to make the playoffs. Playoffs,
Speaker 1: all right, pet, But they're sitting there last night, Okay,
Speaker 1: they come into that game and they are what four
Speaker 1: and eight on the season, okay. Tampa Bay is five
Speaker 1: and six on the season, Atlanta five and eight, Carolina
Speaker 1: four and eight. Okay. If they win that game, they
Speaker 1: are five and eight, tied with Atlanta at five and
Speaker 1: eight in second place in the division, a half game
Speaker 1: behind Tampa Bay, which is at five and seven. Okay.
Speaker 1: But because Tom Brady throws a touch stem pass with
Speaker 1: three seconds left in that game and comes back from
Speaker 1: that thirteen point deficit in the fourth quarter, instead they're
Speaker 1: four and nine. Instead of being a half game behind
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, they are now two and a half games
Speaker 1: behind Tampa Bay and have no chance in that division.
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to believe. I five and you
Speaker 1: still have any chance, exactly exactly, And that's how crazy
Speaker 1: it is. But it's crazy that as that is here
Speaker 1: they are. If they just hold on for three more seconds,
Speaker 1: they are a half game out of first place in
Speaker 1: a division. I can take you back to nineteen ninety chance,
Speaker 1: the whole way, even if even at seven and nine.
Speaker 1: Who was quite back in that game? Which one the
Speaker 1: last one? Last? I think it was babe, Babe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it was Babe. I think it was you.
Speaker 1: It was the last two the last two games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know what, no one else showed up for
Speaker 1: that game either. It was in Atlanta, it was raining cold.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody wanted to play in that game.
Speaker 1: Anybody playing in that game is now a power five
Speaker 1: head coach. Yeah, Colorado, try the odd Why you show
Speaker 1: your head everything. Oh no, I'm not gonna say. We might,
Speaker 1: we might get we might be able to get you
Speaker 1: a defensive back coach. No, you won't, not in Colorado,
Speaker 1: you won't. They probably had me out there just cold,
Speaker 1: out there smoking a bunch of weed, you know, just
Speaker 1: laying down all every all day, trying to stay out.
Speaker 1: It's a recruiting bonus, the weed. Yeah, that is funny.
Speaker 1: I never thought about that. That let's you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not old. Yeah, the fact that that's a recruiting bonus,
Speaker 1: so transfer portal it played up. Yeah, you know what's happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's taking anybody named Sanders is going with him to Colorado,
Speaker 1: including the starting quarterback, well including or including his daughters.
Speaker 1: He probably go with him as well. Yeah, that's a
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Speaker 1: how much do you think oh b J enjoyed his
Speaker 1: trip to the Mavericks game last night with Michael Parson
Speaker 1: and Treyvon Diggs. I bet he had more fun in
Speaker 1: Dallas than he had on any of those other trips.
Speaker 1: Let's just you don't think he in Buffalo. He didn't
Speaker 1: get in Buffalo. In Buffalo, he did not go to
Speaker 1: an NBA game and have the fans chant ob j obj.
Speaker 1: So does that lower his asking price because he's appreciated.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he would raise it considering the support
Speaker 1: he thinks he has. So, yes, did you go and
Speaker 1: get your I was not there. I was not there.
Speaker 1: We okay, But yes, So he did the walk and
Speaker 1: talk down in the hall boys, I was not there. No, okay. No,
Speaker 1: he did not say much. No, he did not, although
Speaker 1: he did tell Tim McMahon of ESPN he reported. McMahon
Speaker 1: reported that, well, maybe I'll find them afterwards. This was
Speaker 1: during the game, during the game, or he went over
Speaker 1: and said something to him or whatever. Let me find
Speaker 1: McMahon's tweet, So I get it right, exactly what he's tweeted.
Speaker 1: We do appreciate accuracy on this show. That's right. Yep, yep, yep?
Speaker 1: Or is it? Or is it? I asked that, Tim said,
Speaker 1: I asked Obj what the Cowboys chances are of signing him.
Speaker 1: It's a good possibility, Odell said, with a million dollars smile. Well,
Speaker 1: to give us more, Mickey, did you listen to Jerry?
Speaker 1: Did you tell us what Jerry is saying? He basically
Speaker 1: said what we've been saying here we said this show
Speaker 1: for quite some time, that there's still a lot of
Speaker 1: things to be considered, including health when he's available to play.
Speaker 1: And then I'm sorry, I would looking to celebration that
Speaker 1: was I didn't think I said anything funny and comes
Speaker 1: down to finances. So it's pretty I think it's still
Speaker 1: pretty cut and dried, you know. And and there may
Speaker 1: be a little what Jerry talked about, because he sounded
Speaker 1: like the voice of reason this morning, that he was
Speaker 1: putting a little doubt in Obj's mind about how much
Speaker 1: I will pay you because I've got other things to consider.
Speaker 1: So and and he didn't say this, but he was
Speaker 1: thinking it your number. When Jerry says, when you sign
Speaker 1: a player to a big contract, how many players does
Speaker 1: that preclude me from signing? Like, if I sign him,
Speaker 1: does that mean I can't sign two other guys? And
Speaker 1: I think. I think the medical people and the personnel
Speaker 1: people have He listened to them and basically said, Okay,
Speaker 1: we got to decide when he can play. And he
Speaker 1: also went to the point of saying he's got to
Speaker 1: play this year. Okay. And here are the specific quotes
Speaker 1: that Jerry had on the fan of this morning. See
Speaker 1: how well I did. Okay, we had. We had pretty
Speaker 1: extensive meetings yesterday. We spent quite a bit of time together.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed every minute of it. We'll get back together
Speaker 1: today and see where we go from here. A lot
Speaker 1: of variables. It has to fit for both parties. On
Speaker 1: being confident in a player he hasn't seen work out,
Speaker 1: he said, I'm not confident at all. That's the issue.
Speaker 1: We've got a good beat on that, We've got a
Speaker 1: great read on his career. It all has to be addressed,
Speaker 1: and that's when you see if you can make a
Speaker 1: deal or not. He had a long pause before responding
Speaker 1: when asked if ob j has given any indication that
Speaker 1: he thinks he can play this year. Okay, long pause.
Speaker 1: I'm going to kind of keep that one at Bay.
Speaker 1: That was very dramatic. Billy, thank you. It's like he
Speaker 1: was doing reading. But now that sounds good to me.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta be smart. Yeah, we're out scoring
Speaker 1: teams a lot of points. Ever since. If let's say
Speaker 1: he's ready to go, okay, and they signed him today,
Speaker 1: how long before he will play would play in a game?
Speaker 1: Even if he's ready to go right now, how long
Speaker 1: would it take? If I have not seen him work out,
Speaker 1: then we're gonna do the ramp up. We're gonna stick
Speaker 1: with what we do, what they always do with every
Speaker 1: player that comes in here. There's a ramp up. There's
Speaker 1: no need in panicking right now. Why should we panic
Speaker 1: right where we need to be. So therefore, even looking
Speaker 1: at that without seeing him work out, looking at all
Speaker 1: of that, then I'd be just as core as Jerry's
Speaker 1: being right now. Like well, think about if he hadn't
Speaker 1: shown me, if I haven't seen him work out, then
Speaker 1: I can't go with confidence saying when we go to
Speaker 1: the playoffs, he's gonna make a difference in this, particularly
Speaker 1: him against the Eagles or the Titans. If I can't
Speaker 1: say with confidence he can make a difference in that game,
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna be core just like that. And we're
Speaker 1: doing well, Bro, how are you doing? You know, how
Speaker 1: how are you doing? But you get good over that
Speaker 1: will be Jake, well, because we're good over here. You know.
Speaker 1: I just can't. I can't see his panicking. It's all
Speaker 1: cute and he's having a great time. I think he's
Speaker 1: a great guy from Texas, if I'm not mistaken, and
Speaker 1: so all of that's good. But man, we are in
Speaker 1: the driver's seat. We are in the job. I don't
Speaker 1: care even what happens next week with the Texans. We're
Speaker 1: still in the driver's seat in regards to our wide receivers,
Speaker 1: in regards our passing get because obviously no one's made
Speaker 1: him an offer to preclude him coming here for the interview,
Speaker 1: and he may have said, well, I'm going a Buffalo
Speaker 1: or Giants right the tour. By the way, he's from
Speaker 1: New Orleans. I thought it from high school high school
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Yeah, ye's high school? Ye go back
Speaker 1: so born in Baton Rouge. Oh, I thought he was
Speaker 1: in Texas. Does that change whether you want to get Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want any players who played college college ball in
Speaker 1: that Louisiana do I. So here's any different from Texas.
Speaker 1: And if he's looking, if he's looking for a long
Speaker 1: term deal, which means he wants a signing bonus, I'm
Speaker 1: giving him a moving bonus. That's it. And then the
Speaker 1: contract is going to be structured as a per game
Speaker 1: roster bonus. You play this game, you make fifteen thousand. Well,
Speaker 1: however the amount, Yeah, that's the tricky part on it
Speaker 1: is not is structuring a contract that takes into account
Speaker 1: what he's able to actually do this year, right, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and and for next year. If it's a two year deal,
Speaker 1: the likely to be earned will be very few games
Speaker 1: because that's based on how many games you played the
Speaker 1: year before. Like, if you play thirteen games last year
Speaker 1: and you had likely to be earned this year, then
Speaker 1: thirteen games of the seventeen will count against the cap immediately.
Speaker 1: But if you've played only five games and then the
Speaker 1: next year you you get the likely to be earned
Speaker 1: is only five games that charges against the cap and
Speaker 1: the rest of it ends up getting paid the next year.
Speaker 1: So against the cap you get the money, but against
Speaker 1: the cap. So that's what's important. It's not you know,
Speaker 1: I heard somebody say, Jerry's just got to open up
Speaker 1: his pocketbook or his checkbook, and it's like, no, it's
Speaker 1: the Cowboys checkbook. Because you've got guys and we've talked
Speaker 1: about it. You've got to sign next year. So I
Speaker 1: just I was glad to hear that He's it sounds
Speaker 1: like they're all being very sensible. What I like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: being sensible because right now Odell's he's having a good time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like being recruited out of high school, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So from Odell's standpoint, all right, he
Speaker 1: wants a multi year contract, but if he doesn't have
Speaker 1: the money he thinks that he should get for next year,
Speaker 1: does it behoove him at all? Everson to go ahead
Speaker 1: and sign for this year, show what he can do,
Speaker 1: and then if he falls out like he did with
Speaker 1: the Rams and the playoffs last year, then he's more
Speaker 1: marketable as a free agent in March. Well, if you're
Speaker 1: going to be marketable, then you better show him what
Speaker 1: you can do. And he just hadn't shown anything. So
Speaker 1: here's here's my point on that. If he doesn't play
Speaker 1: for anybody right now. How marketable is he in March
Speaker 1: compared to if he plays in the playoffs for any
Speaker 1: of these teams and plays well. He's got to show
Speaker 1: something this year because his value will go down the
Speaker 1: older he gets, and the more he can't keep shrouding
Speaker 1: the mystery. Eventually, you gotta get out there in sweat.
Speaker 1: You know the two is great, but you don't get
Speaker 1: the sweat. You hadn't showed me anything. Yeah, but the
Speaker 1: risk is if he's not ready now, then the risk
Speaker 1: for him is not playing well. And then if he's
Speaker 1: not ready now that he's not gonna little better in March.
Speaker 1: That tight And if he's not ready now, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna play. They will not put him on the right.
Speaker 1: And from his own standpoint, if he thinks he's not
Speaker 1: ready now, then he shouldn't. Then he should just base
Speaker 1: wait until March. Wait till March. Sounds like he's it
Speaker 1: sounds like he says, milking this as long as he
Speaker 1: can milk get now against what he might be able
Speaker 1: to get. He seems like he's in part of his life.
Speaker 1: Let's be real, guys, this is social you know, this
Speaker 1: a selcial thing. You know, online stuff and all of that.
Speaker 1: That's what he's you know, doubling up on. Okay, of course, yes,
Speaker 1: he's ode. He knows eventually he's gonna have to show something.
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, his marketing team is working twenty
Speaker 1: four seven, you know, doing whatever they do for him,
Speaker 1: saying he's almost got a better chance of hooking up
Speaker 1: with a team that's not desperate. I mean, somebody that's
Speaker 1: out of the thing and they're saying, Okay, we're going
Speaker 1: to sign you, but we'll have you for next year. Right.
Speaker 1: Is he thinking this way though? Okay, but if I
Speaker 1: get with the Cowboys, or if I get with Buffalo,
Speaker 1: R had a chance to go all the way to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, right, and then I play well and
Speaker 1: aside from this contract, my marketing ability, endorsements and stuff
Speaker 1: kick in as soon as Super bowls over. But his
Speaker 1: point several weeks ago was I want a long term deal.
Speaker 1: I want to go somewhere where I don't live out
Speaker 1: of a suitcase. And that's what he said, and buy
Speaker 1: a house, that's what he said. He wants to go
Speaker 1: somewhere away, he can buy a house and settle down. Well,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't do that, so you know, play
Speaker 1: on the scene. I can't offer that, and Nate Newton
Speaker 1: must we must have hit a broad. He got something
Speaker 1: to say. I speak, gentleman, gentleman of the table. Listen
Speaker 1: to this here. If this guy does not play this year,
Speaker 1: he has to come and work out for someone next year. Right,
Speaker 1: he had all leverage leaves. The last bit of leverage
Speaker 1: he has is when the last game is played in
Speaker 1: this regular season and he's not on somebody's team. Then
Speaker 1: next year, like you guys have said, he is whatever
Speaker 1: age and you have not worked out for anyone. He
Speaker 1: just turned he turned thirty November fifth. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: don't care who pump him up and who think he's
Speaker 1: the greatest dude in the world, which I think he's
Speaker 1: a great, big time player. If he does not play
Speaker 1: this year, it's valuable. Its value goes down if you
Speaker 1: if you say, oh, man, we're gonna bring you in.
Speaker 1: Every every gym will bring you in, but hey, we
Speaker 1: need to work out. He's gonna have to work. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm living to be Johnson, this president of this president. No,
Speaker 1: it ain't working home me. You're the president now, you
Speaker 1: don't want to be the president next year, you would
Speaker 1: be another guy that's that's in the mix. So you
Speaker 1: know I mean, and that's the way the contract will
Speaker 1: be structured. Yes, yeah, yes see. I listened to mister
Speaker 1: Jones who were at the stadium, and he said, a
Speaker 1: young lady asked me, will you be uncomfortable? Yes, I
Speaker 1: will be uncomfortable trying to sign him without working him out.
Speaker 1: But understand, I like for both parties to be uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I don't do Jerry speak of mister Jones speak, but
Speaker 1: that he clearly told mister you know whatever y'all call
Speaker 1: him Odell Beckham because I don't know whatever it is,
Speaker 1: not LBJ whatever, whatever it is, this great player that
Speaker 1: we're talking about, not you direspecting because I don't want
Speaker 1: him to come out of this camp that we're disrespecting him.
Speaker 1: But what you by missus Jones saying that a lot
Speaker 1: of people wanted to ignore that because that wasn't hype.
Speaker 1: But he's telling this young man sensible. I've ever heard
Speaker 1: Jerry talk about something like you're gonna feel uncomfortable too,
Speaker 1: because if we sign you, you're gonna feel uncomfortable. And
Speaker 1: I and I promise you what they're saying is even
Speaker 1: if we give you fifteen to twenty million dollars a year,
Speaker 1: if you miss any games, we're gonna we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna get a chunk of that back. He missus Jones.
Speaker 1: One thing about him now, he'll excite the crowd, and
Speaker 1: he's a marketeer and he's the best thing since Ringland Brothers.
Speaker 1: But he ain't no dummy. That's why he's got so
Speaker 1: much money. Yeah, I don't know why he got some
Speaker 1: more money, but I want some of it because it
Speaker 1: just amazes me that, first of all, everybody I've talked
Speaker 1: to who was close to him, Brady James M. Broadest
Speaker 1: knows a lot about this kid. Just people in general
Speaker 1: that come from the LSU makeup. And I understand that
Speaker 1: they're alum nine and they all banded together. But a
Speaker 1: lot of guys, by saying what they're saying in a
Speaker 1: positive light, don't want to lose their credibility too. So
Speaker 1: this kid is a great asset, you know, to the
Speaker 1: point where you throw him five targets and I heard
Speaker 1: somebody else say this where he'll catch for three first downs,
Speaker 1: but that fourth one be for a six or seven
Speaker 1: yard bomb or one of the greatest dread zone players
Speaker 1: you've ever seen. Yeah, but will you see that this year? Okay,
Speaker 1: we got five games left, Am I correct? How many
Speaker 1: games we have left? Five? Five? You ramp him up
Speaker 1: for two and a half three, so now we got
Speaker 1: two games left. Now, you got to get him in
Speaker 1: the game, and you can't mess around. You got to
Speaker 1: throw him the ball. Yeah, you gotta get him in
Speaker 1: dak On some type of waveleng So you got to
Speaker 1: throw in the ball. Ever some disagree or agree, Now, okay,
Speaker 1: they have to have some type of reporting into the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and so now you go to your first playoff game.
Speaker 1: You can't be messing around. You got to throw him
Speaker 1: enough balls where the defensive be like, oh he's back,
Speaker 1: he's back, Because if you don't, they're gonna sit out
Speaker 1: there and make you prove it. This the NFL, Now,
Speaker 1: this ain't this ain't Texas. Oh you at the States
Speaker 1: for the Yeah, yeah, they ain't gonna ain't gonna be
Speaker 1: scaring you. So if you go out there faking and shaking,
Speaker 1: they're gonna know. Yeah, so they're gonna back up and say, okay,
Speaker 1: until you throw it to him, we're gonna take cde
Speaker 1: Lamb out of the game like ever since said this,
Speaker 1: dude is growing by leaps and bounds. You can say
Speaker 1: what you want, Bill, you can say what you won't
Speaker 1: make you And I know me and Everson feeling this.
Speaker 1: If that dude don't want no, don't don't. What's his name? Obj?
Speaker 1: You know he finally calling the s ob you know what.
Speaker 1: But I'm going, Yo, that's a good one name. Hey,
Speaker 1: we all have. He don't want no questions? There you
Speaker 1: go talk about you know what I'm talking about, Dan
Speaker 1: want to? I want you to. All right, let's do
Speaker 1: We'll do that in the next segment. One more thing though,
Speaker 1: Producer Supreme mentioned Dez Bryant to me in my ear.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he said it on the ear
Speaker 1: when we were talking about OBJ. Dez Bryant Okay, twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: his birthday November fourth. Obj's is November fifth. I'm my
Speaker 1: wife's fifth Okay. Dez Bryant in twenty eighteen just durned
Speaker 1: thirty years old. Remember, he signed with the Saints and
Speaker 1: he uh injured his achilles or whatever. He did not
Speaker 1: play and then play in the next season and then
Speaker 1: wrapped up his career with Baltimore in twenty twenty. Whatever
Speaker 1: exact same age is what ob J is right now,
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Speaker 1: Star this holiday season. Okay, Mickey pointed out in the
Speaker 1: break we didn't answer the question that I posed, when
Speaker 1: would be the earliest that OBJ or LBJ could play?
Speaker 1: And Mickey, you say, even if he's healthy right now,
Speaker 1: ready to hit that practice field running right now, the
Speaker 1: earliest would be after Christmas Tennessee, Tennessee to me and
Speaker 1: and to the most oneful time of a year, Tennessee
Speaker 1: christ And think about it. Because Mike McCarthy pointed out
Speaker 1: on Monday that there's no padded practices this week, so
Speaker 1: that that was in reference to Tyrn Smith because he
Speaker 1: said he has to have a couple padded practices before
Speaker 1: we play them. Well, then if he starts practicing on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: this week's out. So now you've got two weeks, he said,
Speaker 1: a couple one in each week. That's two Philadelphia. That
Speaker 1: gets you to Philadelphia at the earliest, right because it
Speaker 1: could be Tennessee two. Okay, Um, Nate, how's Don doing?
Speaker 1: He's doing great? Uh, you know they paid for Don
Speaker 1: and I would just hate to be one of those
Speaker 1: kids at Colorado. Here come the great Dion. Sam was
Speaker 1: walk in and say the first words, Hello, gentlemen, Hey,
Speaker 1: coach Helly, coach Bryan, I'm here to make you quit.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the parents that saying, wow, they're all excited.
Speaker 1: On on Saturday night, they all excited. We got d
Speaker 1: before that, he got express conference and then you know,
Speaker 1: he talking about his son, his oldest son Junior. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: this is the guy that hands my social media and
Speaker 1: the profanity they he's responsible for that. And oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to introduce y'all quarterback my son. It was
Speaker 1: some people hot about that, but I called Dion this morning.
Speaker 1: He responded promptly. He was on the field, you know,
Speaker 1: getting to get guys ready for the game, in amounted
Speaker 1: for his last game at Jackson and uh and he
Speaker 1: said I expected all of that. And he said, but uh,
Speaker 1: I know what I'm looking at and it's nothing better there. Uh.
Speaker 1: If they were that great, they want to call DA
Speaker 1: and so, uh, same thing's going on other places. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oklahoma had five or six guys into the transfer portal
Speaker 1: yesterday and it wasn't because they wanted to enter transfer portal.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you the coach told them, you saw what
Speaker 1: you did this year, it wasn't enough in your own
Speaker 1: best interest. There's a transfer portal. See. It's so funny
Speaker 1: because we as NFL staff and members over there are
Speaker 1: starting to adapt a lot of the college ways of
Speaker 1: how they run their offenses. But it's amazing how college
Speaker 1: coaches are turning into NFL coaches with their you know,
Speaker 1: because they got a guy a turk like we always
Speaker 1: have for years and years, the Churk. Now they have
Speaker 1: a church signs portal's best name fighting. We're going a
Speaker 1: different direction. You know, these kids are getting a quick
Speaker 1: wake up. Those scholarships are one year deals you want. Oh,
Speaker 1: they've always been that way, but now more than ever
Speaker 1: now this business Dion has it's forty forty twenty, forty
Speaker 1: percent portal, forty percent graduation peak kids that already graduating
Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, Jackson State everywhere. Okay, forty forty twenty
Speaker 1: and twenty percent. If you can get a top one
Speaker 1: fifty kids, if you're if you fall one fifty one,
Speaker 1: you might as well get into a junior college and
Speaker 1: get in there as quick as you can so you
Speaker 1: can show yourself worthy. And uh, because it's forty forty,
Speaker 1: you can get forty out of the portal forty percent
Speaker 1: of grad transfers. You know, he did not prime prefer them, boy,
Speaker 1: than anything. He wants close to to grown men as
Speaker 1: he can get. Right, So it's ugly. He's excited about it,
Speaker 1: and and and just talking to him, man, he just
Speaker 1: I just feel bad for what he's leaving. Yes, you
Speaker 1: know what he's built, what he's put in place. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's no d N. I don't care who you
Speaker 1: bring behind him. If you ain't bringing Nick Saban, because
Speaker 1: that's the bigger than Dan in this world. Who do
Speaker 1: you bring? Because he got him back to where Jackson
Speaker 1: State used to be. Yes, right, and so he's taking
Speaker 1: four or five kids with him, and uh, Jackson States
Speaker 1: has never been as successful as they are with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they happened even when Walter Payton was there. They had
Speaker 1: good players. I don't think they were winning champ I
Speaker 1: don't think that. Yeah. See the thing that's you know,
Speaker 1: I had a couple of people to text me, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, tell Dan called me. You know,
Speaker 1: he don't want the Colorado job, and it's too cold,
Speaker 1: and it's this, and it's it's that. And my answer
Speaker 1: to everybody, it's this right here, this ain't I don't
Speaker 1: have to step in one high school ever as a
Speaker 1: as a college coach. Them days are over unless you
Speaker 1: are right top twenty five kid, I ain't waste in
Speaker 1: my time flying to get you to develop you. The
Speaker 1: portal opened up, and kids are calling coaches because they
Speaker 1: are They moms and dads and friends are doing that. Hover.
Speaker 1: Hey man, they ain't got two guards over here. You
Speaker 1: may want to call such and such, such and such,
Speaker 1: And this goes to the black colleges as well as
Speaker 1: the power of five college people. It's coming. Man. Look
Speaker 1: at Sonny Dikes. Yeah, Sonny Dikes did it at SMU.
Speaker 1: When he got the SMU job. He put Dallas on
Speaker 1: their jersey. Yeah yeah, and he got his coaches. They
Speaker 1: looked at rosters all across the country, every Dallas kid
Speaker 1: across the country. Those are guys that we're picking up
Speaker 1: in the transfer port. And I'm gonna tell you. And
Speaker 1: they didn't do the same thing at TCU. Now you
Speaker 1: know who's who's hurting because he thought he was getting
Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. Is the my man at Texas
Speaker 1: A and M. He built this big old deal so
Speaker 1: he can recruit the top high school kids. Okay, go
Speaker 1: develop them so you can say they can run off
Speaker 1: everywhere else. I'm being honest. It is so if you
Speaker 1: want to be a university known for developing folks and
Speaker 1: you just send out an insurance claud Hey man, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna develop this kid for you here at my college
Speaker 1: and we'll send them to you, because that's what you're doing.
Speaker 1: If you don't get a top one fifty kid, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? I mean, it ain't like me and
Speaker 1: you Everson coming out of the out of the college
Speaker 1: draft and being missed, but somebody knew who we were.
Speaker 1: That ain't happening in college. No more, that ain't happened.
Speaker 1: They know everybody. Yeah yeah, So why was Colorado a
Speaker 1: fit for him? Because if they it's about power Mick's,
Speaker 1: it's about do you have a quarterback? And if you don't,
Speaker 1: can you get a quarterback? And what can I really run?
Speaker 1: Because what what? And I'll use Alabama since everybody knows
Speaker 1: about the great Nick Saban. You gotta understand who Alabama
Speaker 1: was when they had the great bab Brian and how
Speaker 1: he built the culture there, but once he left, the
Speaker 1: alumni became the culture. Like Texas, the alumni is the culture.
Speaker 1: And when the alumni become the culture, this is what
Speaker 1: we got to have from our coach. This is he
Speaker 1: loses all sense of power if he's if he puts
Speaker 1: something in place where we're not doing, we can't do
Speaker 1: that at this time. Well, we can't practice that. We can't. No,
Speaker 1: your coach has to have full authority to take Okay,
Speaker 1: if we get fine for this, something go wrong for this, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can take it. You know what I saw an interview.
Speaker 1: It was a couple of months ago and it was
Speaker 1: with Lane Kiffin. Yes, and he said the exact same thing.
Speaker 1: He goes coaches used to have one boss. Yes, he says,
Speaker 1: now I've got fifteen bosses because I got to answer
Speaker 1: to the alumni. Yeah, they're my bosses now. And and
Speaker 1: he was and he was right, because that's what's controlling things.
Speaker 1: One of Nick Saban's most famous speeches was one of
Speaker 1: the biggest, most powerful boosters. So he went to a gather.
Speaker 1: You know how new coach come in and he go
Speaker 1: to different areas because they have all these big steak dinners.
Speaker 1: I guess you know these million dollars steak dinners every fish.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and so that's recruiting class money can buy.
Speaker 1: So just what happened when they asked when they asked
Speaker 1: coach Saban, they said, coach Saban, coach Saban, when are
Speaker 1: we gonna How far are we out from national championship?
Speaker 1: He looked to do red and Isai. First of all,
Speaker 1: we got to win a game. You asked me about
Speaker 1: the national championship. Nigue guys can't even win a game.
Speaker 1: He said, check back with me. I'll let you know.
Speaker 1: And that insulted this this, this, this big dog. But
Speaker 1: he let them know. This is how things are gonna
Speaker 1: be ran. And so when I would try to set
Speaker 1: up something, set up something, he would he would be
Speaker 1: with Vito up before he even say anything. And he
Speaker 1: gave the as the director, this is my schedule for
Speaker 1: me and my players fit it around it. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: See when you when you got that type of power,
Speaker 1: then you are running things, you know, But when you
Speaker 1: got to be hey, hey a d okay, I want
Speaker 1: to do something December thirty, if can we get it done? Well,
Speaker 1: the alumni don't want to hear that in the middle
Speaker 1: of the season. Well, and the coach said, well, remember
Speaker 1: when I tried to get the kids to practice, y'all
Speaker 1: wanted to do this. They'd be like, man, you're gonna
Speaker 1: you should have took control. And that's why I believe
Speaker 1: that as if I was to ever coach anything, us
Speaker 1: to boss anything like. And I give a perseam of
Speaker 1: my wife. I say, baby, do you want to help
Speaker 1: me with this? She say no, she no, Right, then
Speaker 1: I don't need no more. You have no authority, no more.
Speaker 1: If you want to help me, I'm listening. If you
Speaker 1: don't want to help me, say out right, And that's
Speaker 1: how I gotta be. Do you think we'll have that
Speaker 1: kind of you know, I'll tell him if he don't,
Speaker 1: won't be that long. Yeah, he won't be that long
Speaker 1: cut They won't him not askingly, he'll find a way
Speaker 1: to hell. I think he's got a good ad one
Speaker 1: who thinks outside the box. Rick George, he was with
Speaker 1: the Texas Rangers prior to Colorado when he was on
Speaker 1: the floe. You know how to entertain, Yeah, PGA tour
Speaker 1: before that and stuff, so you know, and I understand celebrity.
Speaker 1: I can give you my hands on example of just
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. When I was in Jackson covering
Speaker 1: Old Miss the alumni after Johnny Vaught left, right, the
Speaker 1: alumni took over. Who is Johnny Vaughton? You got you
Speaker 1: gotta help me there. Johnny Vaught was the guy that
Speaker 1: won big time at Old Man. Okay, okay, okay, I
Speaker 1: just remember jack A share that with our with our brand,
Speaker 1: and they all thought that's the way things needed to
Speaker 1: be when the new coach came in, Okay, wasn't. And
Speaker 1: by the way, that was before they allowed black players
Speaker 1: at the university, right, so now with uh SEGRE with integration,
Speaker 1: it was like they were way behind everybody else. And
Speaker 1: it's like, well, we won with Johnny Vaught, why can't
Speaker 1: we win now, right because now you're coaching against the
Speaker 1: Barry Switchers of the world. Now now you Alabama went
Speaker 1: Bryan real quick, they did, that's right, yea, all right,
Speaker 1: We're a way out of time, way yeah. But this
Speaker 1: was real era time. And by the way, the rest
Speaker 1: Tuesday ever, by the way, D one in Colorado opened
Speaker 1: the season and Fort Worth TCU Wow, and that game,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you will be in prime time, especially if
Speaker 1: TCU does something in the playoffs. I hope they do
Speaker 1: as much as I'm rooting for Michigan. I'm so glad
Speaker 1: the committee letting them in. And I'll be glad if
Speaker 1: the Committee start with twelve teams as quick as they
Speaker 1: because it is so bad to fight that hard and
Speaker 1: to get you the championship game and lose and get
Speaker 1: kicked out. We got one one more year of this nonsense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then let everybody in man. Yea, even Missouri have a shot.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yea. It took five downs, but Missouri, Missouri
Speaker 1: scared of playing Kansas in the little ransfer portal is open,
Speaker 1: all right, and we'll chat at it getting tomorrow on
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