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Speaker 1: we are the podcast presented by When That the Official

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Speaker 1: Colts Podcast. I'm Matt Taylor, JJ Stangovitz is along Larah

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Speaker 1: Overton as well. We're here talking about the Colts, the

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Speaker 1: Colts Arenda. Do it? Do it? Lara? Do it? How

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Speaker 1: many times did you listen to this song as a

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Speaker 1: freshman in high school? Oh? Many times I went to

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Speaker 1: Thank god, like smartphones didn't exist. Where is this? Can

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Speaker 1: that store venture? Oh yeah, like the three slashes? Yeah yeah, yeah, Lara,

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Speaker 1: Give give me some name because I'm drawing a blank

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Speaker 1: talking about nineties pop culture here. One of them was

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Speaker 1: really liked Debbie Gibson. Now, when when did you become cool?

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Speaker 1: this has been let's just say, there's no better time

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Speaker 1: for years. Well, no one's experienced a fourth quarter like

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Speaker 1: not challenging it because our own Matt Bowen got this

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not like the post mortem process. At

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Speaker 1: the end of the season. They're gonna be some really

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Speaker 1: hard conversations that are going to go on in this building.

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Speaker 1: I just think this season it's crazy to think. I mean,

429
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a rhetorical question, I guess, but

430
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Speaker 1: I mean, if the Colts have half the turnovers on

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Speaker 1: the season, yeah, I mean, if you go from twenty

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Speaker 1: six to thirteen, well there, yeah, that's what four or

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Speaker 1: five more wins. I mean, at least at least three

434
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Speaker 1: or four that's what the Colts are one six and one.

435
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Speaker 1: When they have multiple turnovers in a game, in three

436
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Speaker 1: and two. When they don't, I mean, yeah, they're probably

437
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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, if you have multiple turnovers in a game,

438
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Speaker 1: you don't really expect to win a lot of games.

439
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Speaker 1: But if you have, if you have just more of

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Speaker 1: those games, or you only have one turnover, yeah, uh,

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Speaker 1: you're probably looking at a team that's right around five hundred,

442
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Speaker 1: if not slightly over all. Right, let's go to quarterback.

443
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Speaker 1: Is it is it time for a change at quarterback

444
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Speaker 1: after Matt Ryan again continues to leave the NFL and

445
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: interceptions and total turnovers, Larrah, Quarterbacks like power steering in

446
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 1: a car. If you can't turn the wheel and drive

447
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: the car, it's gonna be hard to keep the car

448
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Speaker 1: on the road. It's obviously been a very wild ride

449
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Speaker 1: this year for the Colts a quarterback. It was Matt Ryan,

450
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Speaker 1: then it was Sam Ellinger, back to Ryan. Nick Foles

451
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Speaker 1: now the number two. At least as of Sunday night,

452
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Speaker 1: Ellinger not dressed. He was inactive with four games left

453
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Speaker 1: and the likelihood of not making the playoffs. Lara, what

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Speaker 1: do you do at quarterback? I think you roll with Matt.

455
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Speaker 1: I'd really think that you do. I don't know, you

456
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Speaker 1: really know who Nick Foles is, and you're well experienced enough,

457
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Speaker 1: well versed enough, and what he gives you, and he

458
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Speaker 1: came in to be the backup. I don't know that

459
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Speaker 1: necessarily it's going to change a whole lot or going

460
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Speaker 1: to give you much advantage or great benefit to put

461
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles in there for any situation. If anything, I

462
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Speaker 1: get the thought of giving Sam a little more experience

463
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Speaker 1: and seeing what you've got in him. But I think

464
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Speaker 1: you've inevitably reached a point where you know what you've

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Speaker 1: got to do moving forward. And I think you give

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Speaker 1: Matt the opportunity to close out the season and you know,

467
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Speaker 1: see what he can give you, see what he can bring.

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Speaker 1: And then I also think for a lot of for

469
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Speaker 1: such a young offense, so many young pieces that you have,

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Speaker 1: young guys on the offensive line, young receivers, I think

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Speaker 1: they can still benefit and grow and learn a lot

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Speaker 1: from having a veteran like Matt Ryan to help set

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Speaker 1: them up moving forward. I mean, here's the other part

474
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Speaker 1: of it. The most popular player on every losing team

475
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Speaker 1: is the backup quarterback. That's just that. It's It's why

476
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: you're always going to hear about when a team is losing,

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Speaker 1: should they change quarterbacks because not because you know, it's,

478
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Speaker 1: oh well, let's just see what the backup can do.

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Speaker 1: That's it's honestly, I went through it a lot in

480
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Speaker 1: Chicago where the Bears had a lot of quarterback issues

481
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Speaker 1: when I covered that team, and it doesn't always work out.

482
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Speaker 1: Seeing what the backup can do does not always work out.

483
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Speaker 1: I mean, the Colts did it. They saw what Sam

484
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Speaker 1: Ellinger can do, and you know, to Sam's credit, he

485
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Speaker 1: battled hard, but the Colts got stomped by the Patriots

486
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Speaker 1: in that second game, and then they went back to

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. So I think you ride with Matt Ryan

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Speaker 1: for a lot of what Lara said that you know

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Speaker 1: that veteran presence that he has that's important for a

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Speaker 1: guy like Alec Pierce, for a guy like Jilani Woods,

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Speaker 1: you know, to have that fourteen year veteran back there

492
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Speaker 1: who can keep everything on the tracks even if the

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Speaker 1: results are not where you want it to be. And

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Speaker 1: then the other part of it is, I mean when

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Speaker 1: the Colts traded for Matt Ryan, they did make it

496
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Speaker 1: to your commitment to him. So if you're if you're

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Speaker 1: benching Matt Ryan for good, what does next year look like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think your best case scenario is that

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. I think that comes out of the bye

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Speaker 1: and he plays well down the stretch, you can go

501
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Speaker 1: to twenty twenty three with him as a strong option

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Speaker 1: to be your starting quarterback. I think that's your best

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Speaker 1: case scenario down the stretch. I think it is a

504
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Speaker 1: little bit different because you are sitting here with this

505
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Speaker 1: late bye and you are four eight and one, and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play Devil's advocate just for the sake of

507
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Speaker 1: doing it on the show, because you only have four

508
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Speaker 1: games left and you are where you are record wise.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it's it's easy to wonder if the

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Speaker 1: Colts are going to go into evaluation mode, but Jeff

511
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Speaker 1: Saturday said on Monday that's not the goal. He said,

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Speaker 1: the final four games are going to be about playing

513
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Speaker 1: guys that give the Colts the best chance to win.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not so sure that some of these moves

515
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Speaker 1: might do both. If you go to Sam Ellinger and

516
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Speaker 1: that would allow you to evaluate him, and I think

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Speaker 1: also maybe at this point of the season, he might

518
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Speaker 1: also give you the best chance to win, considering you've

519
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Speaker 1: lost six of the last seven games. Yeah, it's tough

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Speaker 1: right now. I mean if Matt Ryan, unfortunately within this offense,

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Speaker 1: is not able to produce and the turnovers are continuing

522
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Speaker 1: to be prevalent, I think you kind of go back

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Speaker 1: to that idea of you see where you are and

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Speaker 1: you see what you have in Sam and where he

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Speaker 1: factors into the equation of how urgent you need to

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Speaker 1: be in the off season and getting the franchise quarterback

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Speaker 1: of the future. I am intrigued. Two when you look

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Speaker 1: at the situation in because okay, the two games that

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Speaker 1: Sam started it was Washington at home, and then you

530
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Speaker 1: had on the road at New England, and then in

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Speaker 1: New England, remember there was that rotation on the offensive

532
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Speaker 1: line throughout the course of that game that they were

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Speaker 1: battling as well. It would be interesting to see what

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Speaker 1: Sam can do now with having that offensive line seemingly established,

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Speaker 1: with what they've been able to do in these in

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Speaker 1: these last few games. That's intriguing to me right there,

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Speaker 1: that that situation in particular. But you know, Washington, uh,

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00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: you know that a very very winnable game that should

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00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: should have been another one then. And again, so from

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Speaker 1: a Devil's advocate standpoint, I'm not sure if if if

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Speaker 1: two games is completely enough to really tell you, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what you have in Sam Ellinger and whether or not

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Speaker 1: he can be a starting quarterback or a viable backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the future. You know, maybe you treat these

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Speaker 1: final four games as if let's again, let's see where

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Speaker 1: Sam Ellinger factors into that equation at quarterback and how

547
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Speaker 1: much urgency we need to have in the offseason to

548
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Speaker 1: get you know, the guy in here wherever and however

549
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Speaker 1: that comes to fruition. But I think you're also you're

550
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 1: it's a slippery slope and this has nothing to do Oh,

551
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it tifically with Sam here. But

552
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: if you make that move just to a young and

553
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: inexperienced quarterback, are you potentially sacrificing some of the development

554
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Speaker 1: of Alt Pierce and Gelanni Woods and some of the

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00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: other guys in this offense. This is not a comment

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Speaker 1: on Sam, because I think Sam has some good qualities

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Speaker 1: to him as a quarterback that you maybe wouldn't be

558
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: making as big of a trade off there. But a

559
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: lot of teams when you get to this point in

560
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: the season and you say, all right, we're just gonna

561
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Speaker 1: play the young guy, I mean that that might not

562
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Speaker 1: always be the best thing for the entire team. It

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Speaker 1: might be the best thing to silo off and figure

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Speaker 1: out at quarterback, but the other guys on the team

565
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: that might not be the best thing for them. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's a good transition. Let's talk about Colts tight ends.

567
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Speaker 1: Is it time to see you know, if we're making

568
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: that analogy in the car, is it time to see

569
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: more of Jilanni Woods over other tight ends and spark plugs.

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Speaker 1: Is Jilanni Woods the spark plug to the Colts offense needs?

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Speaker 1: Because the Colts tight ends have been a very up

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00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: and down group this season. You know, some big games

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Speaker 1: and then you don't hear from them for a while. Moile,

574
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: they Cox, as we said, lost that fumble, and some

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Speaker 1: of that due to injury as well. With like that's

576
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: one of the situations since he's come back with that

577
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: shoulder right in the last two games, ten catches one

578
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six yards the last couple of times out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean what Woods to me has playmaking ability.

580
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: He's an athlete, he's fast, he's big, he can make

581
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Speaker 1: big plays, chunk plays. He's got a lot of talent

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Speaker 1: and a lot of upside. He also has a presence

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Speaker 1: like he doesn't draf like he came in with a

584
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Speaker 1: thing about just a Kansas City game like alone. He

585
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Speaker 1: doesn't have that kind of like awe struck nature sometimes

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Speaker 1: that Rokies can have early in their careers. And when

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00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: I asked Delanie about, you know, the point to which

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00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: he'd been able to have so much success early on

589
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: in the season and if he envisioned that he would

590
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Speaker 1: have the type of production he had, he said, yeah, absolutely,

591
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Speaker 1: that's why I'm here, That's why I was drafted here.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what Matt and I've been And it wasn't

593
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Speaker 1: like this, oh you know, no, you couldn't have imagined it.

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00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: He totally owned it that that's his role, that's how

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00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: he wants to be utilized. So I love it. He's

596
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: very bold, he's very confident, and I do think he

597
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: brings a bit of swagger in a very good way

598
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: to this offense. Yeah, I totally agree. And on getting

599
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: him on the field more, I do think last week

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Speaker 1: he missed two practices. He had a couple, but you know,

601
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: he's a little bit banged up after that Steelers game,

602
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Speaker 1: so he missed two of the three practices last week.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's probably why you didn't see him out

604
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: there as much. He only played fifteen snaps twenty one

605
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Speaker 1: percent of the Colts offensive snaps. That was his lowest

606
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Speaker 1: rate since Week two of the season. But I think

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Speaker 1: you'll probably see him, especially after the bye, get a

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Speaker 1: little bit healed up. You know, no one's one hundred

609
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Speaker 1: percent at this point. No one will be one hundred

610
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Speaker 1: percent coming off the bye, but you know you'll probably

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Speaker 1: see him get a little bit higher share of the snaps.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean part of it. Part of it

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Speaker 1: is he still has to earn it. I mean, I

614
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Speaker 1: think it's it's easy to say at this point of

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Speaker 1: the season. Again, this goes for all positions. Now I

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Speaker 1: just throw the young guys in there, but like, they

617
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Speaker 1: still have to earn it. I mean, you can't tell

618
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Speaker 1: some of the veterans on this team, you know, all right,

619
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Speaker 1: we're just gonna play the young guys and see how

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00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: they do. If they're seeing him in practice every day

621
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Speaker 1: and they're like, they're not ready for this. So Gjilanti

622
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: still has to continue to earn it. But I absolutely

623
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Speaker 1: agree with Lara that that playmaking trait that he has.

624
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Speaker 1: It's sort of like that it factor for skill position players,

625
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, I think Gilanti's got it. Yeah,

626
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Speaker 1: and he's not. I mean, he's not on the level

627
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: of like a Jack Doyle right now in terms of

628
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: a blocker in the running game. I don't think anyone

629
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Speaker 1: was well, no, no, that's just not on this team. No,

630
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Speaker 1: But but I think that he can turn into a

631
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Speaker 1: good blocking tight end, especially on interior runs for the

632
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: Colts in their zone running game. I don't think he's

633
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: afraid of contact. I think he's a willing blocker. I

634
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: mean that that dates all the way back to the

635
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: start of training camp. I saw that. Now he's not

636
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: on that level yet, but he's got that in him

637
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: where he wants to be good at that aspect of

638
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: his game. So maybe you try to develop that part

639
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: of his game this last month going into the offseason.

640
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Speaker 1: And that's something I asked mo Aali Cox about when

641
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 1: I had him in studio last week, was how interesting

642
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: it is and how high the ceiling is for this

643
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: group of tight ends, because it's not a group that

644
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: has really played the tight end position that long. When

645
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: you look at Kylan converted from wide receiver. Jelani converted

646
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: from a quarterback to a tight end in college. Drew Ogletree,

647
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw into that mix as well. Wide receiver

648
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: to tight end now, Yo, Mo. Of course, you know

649
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: we've covered it well, college basketball player to tight end

650
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: and the time it's taken him and the seasons and

651
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Speaker 1: the study and you know, his body and all the

652
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Speaker 1: investment that he's made. So he said, the sky is

653
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Speaker 1: the limit. There is no ceiling on what this group

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Speaker 1: can do because they are still really figuring out this

655
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Speaker 1: position at the NFL level. All right, that's a good

656
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: conversation there on Gilanni Woods. It kind of morphs into

657
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Speaker 1: the next part of the podcast here, segment wise, let's

658
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Speaker 1: talk about rookie growth rookie progress reports. Because thirteen games

659
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Speaker 1: in the Cults have played seventy five percent of the season,

660
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Speaker 1: four games left. Where do some of the culture rookie

661
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Speaker 1: stand in terms of development, progress and roles for the

662
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Speaker 1: remainder of this season and what they can be next

663
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Speaker 1: season in twenty twenty three in their sophomore campaigns. We

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Speaker 1: talked about Jilani Woods there in kind of a different context,

665
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Speaker 1: but J J. Bernard Riemann at left tackle. I think

666
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Speaker 1: he's been pretty good. He started the last five games,

667
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: hasn't missed a snap in that time, twelve games total

668
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Speaker 1: on the season. In terms of participation, he's allowed four sacks,

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Speaker 1: he's committed five penalties. He's obviously had some growing pains,

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Speaker 1: but I think he's done a nice job. I think

671
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: there's more positive than growing pains. That's certainly been there.

672
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Speaker 1: But I think he's going to be able to continue

673
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Speaker 1: to stack good performances on top of one another with

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Speaker 1: four games left, and situational football I think is his

675
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: biggest development right now or where he needs to improve

676
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Speaker 1: the most. But by and large, a third round pick

677
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Speaker 1: that's still relatively new to football and playing left tackle,

678
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: all things considered, I think he's done a nice job,

679
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Speaker 1: and I think he's shown enough to be, you know,

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00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: for the Colts to be optimistic about him being the

681
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: cornerstone left tackle of the future along that offensive line. Yeah,

682
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: I completely agree, you know, and he still is a rookie,

683
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: so we need to we need to make sure that

684
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Speaker 1: we acknowledge that. In this conversation, like it's not perfect

685
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: from Bernard Ryman, there is a play against Dallas where

686
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Speaker 1: he tried to set against DeMarcus Lawrence, and to Marcus Lawrence,

687
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: who's been in the NFL for a decade, got his

688
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 1: hands on him first and shoved him over. Those plays

689
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: are going to happen to any rookie left tackle. I

690
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: don't care if you're Charles Cross in Seattle as a

691
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Speaker 1: first round pick or Bernard Ryman in Indianapolis as a

692
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Speaker 1: third round pick. They're going to happen when you're facing

693
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Speaker 1: veteran pass rushers. But for the most part, Bernard's been good.

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know again, it was like last week

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Speaker 1: against the Steelers. He handled Alex Highsmith, who's a double

696
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Speaker 1: digit sack guy, pretty well. In that game. There was

697
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Speaker 1: the one play at the end of the game or

698
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,479
Speaker 1: Highsmith got him. I think that goes to your point,

699
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Speaker 1: Matt about situational football. In this game, Michael Parsons didn't.

700
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Speaker 1: I didn't notice Michael Parsons when he was lined up

701
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Speaker 1: against Bernard Ryman. Yeah. And I went back and I

702
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 1: watched the film and and Bernard did a good job

703
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: against Michael Parsons, who is second in the NFL and sacks.

704
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: He did, for the most part, a good job against

705
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Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence. He didn't allow a quarterback hit when either

706
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Speaker 1: of those guys were rushing the passer against him against

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, So that's a good test. He had a

708
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Speaker 1: good test against Chandler Jones back in Week ten. Again,

709
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: a veteran pass arsher. Maybe doesn't have the production he's

710
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Speaker 1: used to this year, but a veteran pass rusher. Good

711
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Speaker 1: test in Week eleven against that Eagles, and he's getting

712
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: to face some really good edge rushers. Yea veterans over

713
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks and he's held his own.

714
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Speaker 1: And then the run game. Bernard's been really good in

715
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Speaker 1: the run game all year long. That is an area

716
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Speaker 1: of his game that looks like it can be a

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Speaker 1: strength if the pass pro comes along. Yeah, I absolutely

718
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: think next year you can go into the season. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna go into the season

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Speaker 1: saying there's no competition, but I think he is your incumbent,

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Speaker 1: and you feel good out where he is as your

722
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Speaker 1: incumbent going into next year. I brought this up last

723
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Speaker 1: week in a conversation with one of the writers for

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00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: reporter NFL Network reporter for Dallas Cowboys, in that think

725
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: about just a year ago, I mean Bernard Ryman was

726
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Speaker 1: playing in the MAC like you were preparing for ball

727
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: State and and I mean, okay, it's a lot different

728
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Speaker 1: than Ryan Kelly playing at Alabama and Quentin Nelson playing

729
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame and Brandon Smith playing at Auburn. I

730
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: mean that's a huge leap when you go from the

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Speaker 1: Mac to then facing DeMarcus Lawrence in your rookie sea.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is there. It's going to take growth.

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Speaker 1: And I do think that Bernard has shown a huge

734
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Speaker 1: upside in particular in this latter stretch of games that

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Speaker 1: we have seen from him. But yeah, I mean that's

736
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Speaker 1: that's just a significant factor, you know, to account for

737
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Speaker 1: the guys that you're going up against. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: guys on the Akron defensive line aren't looking at anything

739
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Speaker 1: like the Dallas. But here's the other thing, though, is

740
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Speaker 1: that Bernard now will get a full offseason in the

741
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: Colts strength and conditioning program. That's where it is right

742
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: that that is going to be critical. And I and

743
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: again this is the case for every NFL rookie tackle

744
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 1: where the the you might face some athletes here and there,

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Speaker 1: you know, yes, and the MAC probably more so in

746
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Speaker 1: the sec UM, but you know, you're not going to

747
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Speaker 1: face the strength the like that like I've been in

748
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: the NFL ten years, grown man strength that you're facing

749
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: now in the NFL level and that and that football

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Speaker 1: savinus and I too that those guys might have on Ryman,

751
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: whereas Ryman's played twelve games and to your point to

752
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence played twelve years, right almost, so yeah, and

753
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: you know, learning on how to get your hands on

754
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: those guys first and just getting you know, honing your technique.

755
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: Rum but you're seeing Bernard do enough good things that

756
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: again you feel good about him as you're incumbent going

757
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: into next year. I think the cults are doing the

758
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: right thing, letting him be the guy, letting him grow.

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00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: These last four games are really really big for him,

760
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: important as a jump start for him heading into the offseason.

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Speaker 1: And I think he's going to take This is a

762
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: prediction that I have. I think he's going to take

763
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Speaker 1: the biggest jump from year one to year number two

764
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Speaker 1: among these rookies within this rookie class. And I think

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Speaker 1: you know that kind of starts this week with a

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00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: week off around the bye Lara, you talked about the

767
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: vertical passing game and the biggest piece in that vertical

768
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: passing game this year for the Colts is Alec Pierce.

769
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Speaker 1: He ranks fifth in the NFL and receiving yards among rookies.

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Speaker 1: He also has six catches over thirty and owns the

771
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Speaker 1: three longest catches this season on the year for the

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Speaker 1: Colts over forty yards. He had a forty five yarder

773
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Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. He's got two touchdowns on the season.

774
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Speaker 1: He's not afraid to go up after those go after

775
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: I should say, those fifty fifty balls. He makes contested

776
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: catches against veteran cornerbacks in this league. Already is Pierce

777
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: contending to be the Colts top target next season? Can

778
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: he take that jump in the final four games? Lara,

779
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: Absolutely he can. One of the things that's interesting about

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00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: Alex pierces, it's almost the more difficult to catch, the

781
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,479
Speaker 1: more accurate he is with it. It's almost the better

782
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: it is when he's watching open. You have seen, you know,

783
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: some some stumbles here and there, but then in the

784
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: situations where it's contested and he's got to go, you know,

785
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: battle for a ball, he's there. So I yeah, I

786
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: certainly think that he can. I love moving forward the

787
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: vision that you can have with Michael Pittman Junior and

788
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: Alec pierced together as well with the compliment of Paris

789
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: Campbell and the speed the elusiveness that Paris has also.

790
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm really interested in seeing what this team does with

791
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: the head coaching position moving forward and the offensive mindset

792
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: that you're going to build with whatever they decide to do,

793
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: you know, moving forward at quarterback, and what that offensive

794
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: identity is going to be. But yeah, I think certainly

795
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: that you need a one two balance. You need that

796
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: one too combination, and that's something that you didn't get

797
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: as much in the last two years with t Y Hilton,

798
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: right just due to injury. So I think that this

799
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: is a great thing for Michael Pittman as well to

800
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: have that other compliment within this offense. Yeah, I mean

801
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: Alec is the outside the numbers ball winner and Pitt

802
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: is between the numbers ball winner, and that's a really

803
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: good compliment. And they can do both. You know, pitt

804
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: can win outside the numbers, We've seen it. Alec can

805
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: win inside the numbers. Two All right, let me throw

806
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Speaker 1: out two blind sets of numbers for you guys. This

807
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: is rookie wide receivers player number one. Thirteen games, forty

808
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Speaker 1: nine targets, twenty seven receptions, no touchdowns, three hundred forty

809
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Speaker 1: five yards. Player two twelve games, sixty targets, thirty two receptions,

810
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: five hundred ten yards, two touchdowns. Those two numbers, the

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Speaker 1: first one was Reggie Wayne, second one is Alec Pierce. Oh,

812
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: that's fantastic. And Reggie I caught up with him last

813
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: week to talk about Alec and he was basically like,

814
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Speaker 1: you got to learn and Alec understands this that you're

815
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: not as a rookie. You're not the number one target,

816
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: You're not even the number two guy on this offense.

817
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: And he said, Alec understands that. He understands that they

818
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: are going to be times there are going to be

819
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: stretches where the ball doesn't come your way. And he's like,

820
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: I had to learn that. And he said that's really

821
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: where the rookie learning curve is for a lot of

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Speaker 1: these guys. Because Reggie came in, he's a first round pick,

823
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: he was a star at Miami and he comes in

824
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Speaker 1: and he's behind Edrin James and Marvin Harrison on the

825
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: pecking order, right, And he was like, I had to

826
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Speaker 1: pick up the scraps my first couple of years in

827
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Speaker 1: the league, and Alec is behind Michael Pittman Junior and

828
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor on the Colts pecking order. And it's not

829
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Speaker 1: that he's picking up the scraps because they I mean,

830
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: they certainly devise plays to go to him, but he's

831
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Speaker 1: he's doing a good job of you know, he has

832
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: that lull where from you know, weeks nine to twelve,

833
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: you know, Alec really wasn't very involved four catches fifty

834
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: one yards in that stretch you're switching quarterback, right, But

835
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: then he goes out in he his four for eighty

836
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Speaker 1: six in a touchdown against the Cowboys because he kept

837
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Speaker 1: his play at a high level. In getting to know

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00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: Alec more and more, I also think he kind of

839
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: feasts on that in the sense that he's a guy

840
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: who cut his team in college, like playing special teams.

841
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: Was almost was almost a linebacker before deciding to play

842
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: wide receiver. So I do think that that's part of

843
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: he doesn't always have to have the ball in his

844
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: hands to contribute to this team and to find value

845
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: in this team and to love being a part of it.

846
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: And I think that he's just also a fantastic teammate

847
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: in addition to just being a stellar talent. And that's

848
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: something Reggie told me real quick that, Yeah, when he

849
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Speaker 1: looks at the film, he you know, he's like, you know,

850
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: if you don't get the ball on the play, we

851
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: still see what you're doing. And he said, what he

852
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: saw Alec do in that four game stretcher, he wasn't

853
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: getting the ball much, was still very encouraging that Alec

854
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: was still on his assignments, he was running his routes properly,

855
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: he was getting good releases. The ball wasn't coming his way,

856
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: but when the ball was going to come his way,

857
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: he knew Alec was going to make plays like he

858
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: did on Sunday. And I think what he's doing and

859
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: what he gives you is so important for the Colts

860
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: because right now, I think Pierce is the target that

861
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: probably puts the most stress on the defense in the

862
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: passing game, and because he's really the only player that

863
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: the Colts have right now that they are attempting to

864
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: push the ball down the field with. You know, it's

865
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: been well chronicled. We've we've talked about the vertical passing game,

866
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 1: but Pierce is your guy on those fifty fifty balls

867
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: contested catches in the red zone. We saw that in

868
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: the touchdown against the Cowboys. You gotta be able to

869
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: hit more of those shots in the NFL because it's

870
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: hard to move the ball. I mean, obviously the Colts

871
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: have displayed that this year. It's hard to move the

872
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 1: ball down the field in ten twelve play drives, getting

873
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: four or five first downs per drive. I mean, the

874
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: most successful teams in the league get chunk plays in

875
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: route to scoring touchdowns and putting up you know, routinely

876
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: thirty points per game and some of these more explosive

877
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: offenses in this league. So that and you also get

878
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: safeties to back off, which helps him the run game. Yeah,

879
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: it all works hand in hand. All right, Let's go

880
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: our last one. Nick Cross LERA. He's only played two

881
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: defensive snaps since Week two. He was the starter, he

882
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: was the guy in training camp, those first two games,

883
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,479
Speaker 1: he was the guy against Houston and Jacksonville, But since

884
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: then he's been relegated to just basically special team's duty.

885
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: Since then, where does Nick Cross factor in to next season?

886
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: As a rookie? Seventy five percent of the way through

887
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: his rookie season, I don't think I have enough base

888
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: of knowledge to tell you right now with what we know,

889
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued. I think he is certainly one who when

890
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: you looked at the tape, when you looked at why

891
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: the Colts were infatuated with him in the draft process,

892
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: you got it. So to have seen his role so

893
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: drastically decline this season is it's a bit baffling. And

894
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: remember and remember the Colts moved up big time to

895
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: get him, Yeah, in their I do think that here's

896
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: another part. This is all what scheme are you going

897
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: to have defensively? Does Gus Bradley remain the offensive coordinator?

898
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: Does Gus Bradley get a shot to become your head coach?

899
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: Is this going to be the same defense you have

900
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: moving forward? Because I think that that has great implications

901
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: for the future of a guy like Nick Cross and

902
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: his play and where you know he is going to

903
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: be and how he's going to be valued, because we've

904
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: heard guys talk about the difficulty in transitioning their specialties

905
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: to this defense. Kenny Moore was really honest with me

906
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: about kind of how difficult it's been for him to

907
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: have as much of a role just because of how

908
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: different it is in particular for him. I think that

909
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: he certainly has a huge upside. There are a lot

910
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: of things that you like about Nick Cross, Like you know,

911
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: we talk about the get off the bus test, you know,

912
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: the eye test, Like that guy steps off the bus

913
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, football player for sure. I think

914
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: that it's going to be a big test this offseason

915
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: and how he grows and how he embraces his rookie

916
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: year and utilizes an opportunity to grow from this and

917
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: to see how opportunities escalated for a guy like Rodney

918
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: Thomas and you know, obviously playing in compliment to Julian

919
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: Blackman and Rodney McLeod. My god, what a win that

920
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: has been for the Colts this year bringing him in.

921
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: And so I think this will be a big test

922
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: for Nick Cross and how he embraces the position that

923
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: he's in and uses guys around him. So two things

924
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: to kind of hone in on here. The first is,

925
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: Larry you mentioned it. Ronny McLeod Junior has been awesome

926
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: this year against the run. He's been one of the

927
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 1: best like run defending safeties in the NFL. His ability

928
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: to get down into the box and know exactly what

929
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: to do on his assignment play behind that defensive line,

930
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: playing tandem with the linebackers has been great. So it's

931
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: not like Nick Cross is not playing over just some guy.

932
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: He's not playing because Ron McCloud's playing really, really well. Yeah.

933
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: The other thing, Nick Cross turned twenty one a day

934
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: before the season started. He is still a very young

935
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: football which is really important to note here. But on

936
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: that same note, so Nick Cross gets demoted out of

937
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: the defense, Bubba Ventrone says, hey, I need you on

938
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: special teams. We need your skill set on special teams.

939
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: Do you want to know the highest graded player on

940
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: Pro Football focus on special teams on the Colts this year?

941
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: It is Nick Cross? Yeah. Interesting, eighty four point nine

942
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: special teams grade whatever, who cares, whatever you think about

943
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 1: these grades. That's twenty first in the NFL, and Nick

944
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: Cross has consistently been among the Colts core special teamers

945
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: this year. That is not an easy thing for someone

946
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: to take who has pretty much been a starter his

947
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: whole career, and who starts the season as the starting safety,

948
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: who is a young football player at the age of

949
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: twenty one, to be told we need you to go

950
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: do the dirty work on special teams yea. And Nick

951
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: Cross has not only done it, he's done it at

952
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: a very high level. Credit to him for the maturity

953
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: it takes. Nick is one of those two you'd see

954
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: him you you know, you engage with him around here,

955
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: and he is very much like locked in. It's I

956
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: don't get the sense at all that he has been

957
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: vocal or you know, has had any sort of discontentment

958
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: with anyone regarding this situation. He just like he literally

959
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: puts his head down. He heard anything from that Cross.

960
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: Nick Cross leads the Colts with eight special teams tackles

961
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: this year just for the sake of doing it for

962
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: the for the show. I mean, Devil's advocate again. And

963
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: I'll throw it to both of you. With four games left,

964
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: and you talked about and I agree with you. Ronney

965
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: McLoud has been very very good, a very solid free

966
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: agent pickup. He's going to be a free agent again

967
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: though in the upcoming off season. Do you throw Cross

968
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: in there to get him more run and have a

969
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: better evaluation primarily mentally, because that's been the problem, right,

970
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that was to a degree why Rodney

971
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 1: Thomas was able to kind of leap frog him into

972
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: the starting lineup, or play a lot more within the

973
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: defense at least rotationally. Do you throw Cross in there

974
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: in these last four games to see where you are

975
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: in terms of evaluation going into the off season, I

976
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, again, he's got to earn it,

977
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: you know. I don't think you can go in and

978
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: tell those dudes on this defense that, all right, we're

979
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: just gonna throw the young guy in there, when again,

980
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: they see it in practice and as it has nothing

981
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: to do with your play. If your guy like Rodney McCloud,

982
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: yeah right, you know. And yeah, I mean especially for

983
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: a guy like Rodney McLoud who has earned this opportunity,

984
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how you go to him and you say, hey, man,

985
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: we're playing the young guy, you know, when when he's

986
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: played at such a high level, and you know, Rodny

987
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: McLoud probably has extended his NFL career by a year

988
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: or two because of this season. Yeah, I mean that

989
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: that's just the fact of it, that you've got a

990
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: guy who's been in the league for ten years, who's

991
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: playing at a high level. Someone's gonna go pick up

992
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: Ronny McLoud if it's not if he doesn't stay here

993
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. He's gonna go somewhere else next year and

994
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: probably be a starter. And he's handled himself very well. Yeah,

995
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: very professional, right because he was the number two guy

996
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 1: all of training camp. Probably didn't think he should have been,

997
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: but you did. You never heard him say that, I

998
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: mean just assuming, I mean with his competitive edge. I

999
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: mean we all have that. I mean as as you know,

1000
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: every Colts player has, you know, the thinking that they're

1001
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: going to be in the starting lineup or they should be.

1002
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, great discussion right there. That kind of puts

1003
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: a bow on the Colts talk. This week, as the

1004
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: Colts head into the buy a look at car troubles,

1005
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: we called triple A on the Colts car. It was

1006
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: broken down on the side of the road there, so

1007
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: we got the who's your helper pulling the Colts car?

1008
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: In the midas um we've talked about the rookie report

1009
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: j J. I tasked Lara this week with the random

1010
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: thought of m felt more pressure about it such a

1011
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: long time, Okay, So headed in the bye week, it's

1012
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: the holiday season, so I wanted to do something kind

1013
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: of holiday related. You guys have all heard people talk about,

1014
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: you know, your your spirit animal, Like you know, what

1015
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: is your your spirit animal? Okay, So I combined the

1016
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: holidays and the spirit animal with the thought of if

1017
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: there were a holiday movie character that would be your

1018
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: spirit animal, who would it? Oh my gosh. Okay, So

1019
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: I can lead this because I've obviously had more time.

1020
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: You guys are getting this so so for everyone listening,

1021
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: I thought of this just last night. These guys this

1022
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 1: is the first day are hearing of it. So mine

1023
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: would be part Kevin mcconalister from Home Alone and part

1024
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 1: Buddy the Elf from the movie Elf. Okay, So I'm

1025
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: part Kevin McAlister because I grossly overestimate my independence and

1026
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: my ability to like be self sufficient. Okay, and I

1027
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: totally I have to fail at things or struggle at

1028
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: things before I realize how much I appreciate the people

1029
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: around me, mainly my family because I take them for

1030
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: grant all the time. And then I've also Buddy the

1031
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: Elf because I'm so easily excitable and I can really

1032
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: I can really quickly I get jacked up and I

1033
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: will go like all into something and I have like

1034
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: a bit of like reckless abandonment where I'm just like

1035
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: forging ahead like, you know, I get excited and I

1036
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: am darting across the street and I'm doing the hot

1037
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: Scotch to get there, and then you know, the yellow

1038
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: ones don't stop. You gotta double back, like yeah, yeah,

1039
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: you know you walk into the diner. Congratulations, You've done it.

1040
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: World's best cup of coffee. Like I'm you know, I'm

1041
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 1: overly caffeinated. Like how Buddy is about like candy cane,

1042
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 1: candy corn like all those things. That's like, you know, what,

1043
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: what are your favorite food groups? Like it's coffee, it's

1044
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: diet cocon it's chocolate, and it's like, oh is there

1045
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: caffeine and those things? Then yes, so yeah that's um man,

1046
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna this is a complete stretch here, right, I'm

1047
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: a combination of cousin Eddie. Yea cousin Eddie because like

1048
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of I do my own thing. I

1049
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: got a unique personality. I'm an acquired taste. So I'm

1050
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: a combination of cousin Eddie. And then this is a throwback.

1051
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys will pick this one

1052
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: up because it's claymation. Half combo of cousin Eddie, half

1053
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: combination of Yukon Cornelius remember him like he's from He's

1054
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: part of the claymation cast of characters from Rudolf. Oh

1055
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: I remember? Is he like the snow guy. He's the

1056
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: guy that's like helping Rudolf in a in a pinch.

1057
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: Oh you know it now, But he's gonna but he's

1058
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: gonna be a helping hand. He's gonna be there. So yeah,

1059
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: I mean that's a complete I'm making up that up

1060
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: as on the fly here, so I know that's a

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00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: really crappy ends. No, it's very specific. I love that. Yeah,

1062
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: but I buying two different characters that immediately came to

1063
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 1: mind there, Yukon Cornelius, google them. I'm googling it right now, jays.

1064
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: Let me so all right, so I've only had a

1065
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: couple of minutes to think about this, but oh oh, okay,

1066
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: I believe I've got him. Yeah, he kind of You

1067
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: know what's funny is he kind of looks like a

1068
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: guy that's probably like served you a beer at like

1069
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: like well, I was just gonna say, like a microbrew

1070
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: like you know, the wood fire. This guy definitely likes

1071
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: a hoppy I pa, you know, Okay, No, he's got

1072
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: a case of Millar light in his garage. Fresh that's

1073
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: ukon Cornelius Jays, which you got. All right. I'm gonna

1074
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: go with Rizzo the rat from him up at Christmas Carol,

1075
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: because I'm helping chronicle the story, but I'm also falling

1076
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: into things all the time. Rizzo, nicely done. There there,

1077
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: that's that's a Niats character. There at Christmas Carol is

1078
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: the best Christmas movie that's my been a while since

1079
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: I've seen it, but good, so good, all right, because

1080
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: Michael Caine plays Scrooge like so straight. He apparently he

1081
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: took the role of playing Scrooge in a Muppet movie

1082
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: only if he could play it like he was playing it,

1083
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: if for like a legitimate theater, like it was incredible

1084
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: and and like it's all the Muppets just being the

1085
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: Muppets around him, and he's playing it like it is

1086
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: a real likes going for the Oscar. It's so good,

1087
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 1: it's so good, he's a He's so good in it.

1088
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: It works so perfectly. It's one of my favorite movies.

1089
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: Here you go, Michael came circa what nineteen eighty eight?

1090
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 1: When can I throw a random thought in here? Please?

1091
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: Before we get eyes were, um so, my my late

1092
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: mentor John Muonmullen on the Chicago Bears beat. Uh. Every

1093
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: time we hit the bye week on the podcast I

1094
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: did with him, he would always go on this rant.

1095
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: So I'm going to honor him with this rant. It's

1096
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: not the bye week, it's an off week. The bye

1097
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: week is something you earn. You earn a bye by

1098
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 1: being good and making the playoffs and earning a first

1099
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: round bye. A bye implies you don't have to play

1100
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: because you earned it. An off week, this is just

1101
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: the off week. It's part of the schedule. It's not

1102
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: the bye week, it's the off well the schedule says

1103
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: by yeah, and he's really fighting to change that. Like

1104
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: to the point where we were in sounds like he

1105
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: just hates in sync and what we were probably this

1106
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: is to the point that we were in. We were

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00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: in I think it was Ryan Now Sorry, We're in

1108
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: Ryan Pace's office and he's on the schedule. Ryan had

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00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: a magnetic schedule up and one of them said bye week,

1110
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: and I was like, Ryan, you gotta take that down

1111
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: because Moon's gonna come in here, and Moon's gonna yell

1112
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: at you about it. Man, Pet Peeves city. Right, Yeah,

1113
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: I guess we all have our things, so that's up there,

1114
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: all right. It was a thing well done. All right, Lara.

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00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna be talking about the off week this week

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00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: on three sixty Yes, yeah, yeah, he got on the show.

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00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: This week we have interim head coach Jeff Saturday talking

1118
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: about his directive to the guys as they all kind

1119
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: of go their separate ways and enjoy some time off.

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00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: It is very much not a week off. I'll tell

1121
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: you that he as much as he wants guys to

1122
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: take care of their bodies, they're not checked out exactly exactly.

1123
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: And then we have a fantastic conversation you and I'm

1124
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: at with our Walter Peyton Man of the Year honorary

1125
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: Shaquille Leonard. Wonderful conversation with him in which he touches

1126
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: on his involvement within the community, where that desire comes

1127
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: from to have such a you know, a servant mindset

1128
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: and such an investment in giving back. And then he

1129
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: also updates us on the progress in his rehab and

1130
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: where he is moving forward and the frustration that off

1131
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: the field it's been hard. It has been for him,

1132
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: so really appreciate him. But yeah, special, a little bye

1133
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Speaker 1: week edition, and then you know, it's a quick week

1134
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: coming back because we get a little Saturday game a

1135
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: little Saturday after you go, I love it. I like

1136
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: it a lot. I'm excited for that Minnesota game for sure, Saturday,

1137
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: one o'clock. By the way, December seventeenth, right, it was

1138
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: either be the seventeenth or eighteenth. So it is Saturday,

1139
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: December seventeenth, Colts at Vikings one o'clock Eastern time on

1140
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: a Saturday afternoon. That game's going to be broadcast at

1141
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: TV wise on the NFL network, and then you can

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00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: watch it locally in the Central Indiana area on Fox

1143
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: fifty nine. So if you don't get the Nation or

1144
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: the NFL network, you're taking care of locally. JJ, what

1145
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: are you writing about going into the off week? So

1146
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: you can go, thank you, You can go read about

1147
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: Shaquille Leonard and him being the Walter Paintman of the Year.

1148
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: Had a chance to talk with, you know, some of

1149
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: his teammates, but also had a really interesting conversation with

1150
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: Patrick Moore, who's the band director of South Carolina States

1151
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: Marching Band. Yeah, and um, you know just about how

1152
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: Shaquille invited the South Carolina State marching band to Indianapolis,

1153
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: gave them a twenty thousand dollars donation. Surprised them with that.

1154
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: Those back and it was all expense stayed. But just

1155
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: the the impact I included it in the story. Just

1156
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: the impact that Shaquille still has at South Carolina State

1157
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: as we know, the impact he has in Lakeview, South Carolina,

1158
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: his hometown, and in Indianapolis. It's really really incredible. One

1159
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: quick thing, can I tell you guys? Just back to

1160
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: Dallas really quickly. So I forgot to mention. Do you

1161
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: know who I got to meet on the field. Pregame

1162
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: Lee Greenwood. Craig Nelson, the father of one Quentin Nelson,

1163
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: and he is as awesome as you think he'd be

1164
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: and even better. Oh Lee Greenwood was there too, right, Well, yeah, yeah,

1165
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: he's not Craig Nelson. OK. He can't take responsibility for

1166
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: tangent here. So I've been on the you know, with

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00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: the Golts for eleven years here and I literally have

1168
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: seen I counted it in my head. I've seen Lee

1169
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: Greenwood eight times and American he started singing like one

1170
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: of his other songs. I don't don't think he has

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00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: any man I'm sure. I don't think he had just

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00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: reported more than one song. I don't know if any

1173
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: though that's the problem. Great guy, I'm sure, But man,

1174
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: I've I'm Lee Green what out I really am? But also, um,

1175
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: speaking of things that are silly, I'm finally running that

1176
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: story on colts dot com about what, yes, what sport

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00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: would Colts players play if American football never existed? That's

1178
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: going to go up on Tuesday. Um had a lot

1179
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 1: of fun with it. Got some crap from Bryan Kelly

1180
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: about it, which is included in there. Uh, really stressed

1181
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: out Jonathan Taylor in it, which I feel kind of

1182
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: bad about. Wait, Jonathan Taylor overthought something. Come on, of

1183
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: course he did, but that's how he There's no quick answers.

1184
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: He is like fully celebral in any really really overthought it. Um,

1185
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: But it was great. It was It was a fun

1186
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: story to do. What's the most obscure response you got

1187
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,959
Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmore saying tennis? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. His wife

1188
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: Gabby Gilmore is a big tennis player as well. Their

1189
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: kids are kind of tennis tennis A little a little

1190
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: peek into it. I'm it's essentially like players response. And

1191
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: then it's our conversation just transcribed basically, and Stefan's is

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00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: the s artists because Stefan says I'd probably say tennis.

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01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: Me why tennis, Stefan, it's one on one and it's like,

1194
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: I literally shut up our card. I was like, that's

1195
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: that's so like, thank you. And then we talked a

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01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: little bit more about how he's got the kids into

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01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: tennis and how you know, it's a difficult sport to

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01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: get into, you know, if you you know, because it

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01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: costs a lot of money and it's you do a

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01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: lot of training. But um, I love that one, and

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01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 1: you know, some other good ones got Rob was trying

1202
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: to get my Ryan to say golf, like Matt Ryan's

1203
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: scratch golfer. Yeah, And I was like, you're the best

1204
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: golfer on the team, and he's like, hah, there's a

1205
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: big difference between being a professional golfer and being a

1206
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: you know, you know, scratch golfer. And I was like, okay.

1207
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: And then he picked baseball and then he mimicked Derek

1208
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: Jeter's jump throw as he was leaving the locker room. Nice, oh,

1209
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: I love it. So I bet he could throw a

1210
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: wicked slider well he said he would play middle infield though. Okay, yeah,

1211
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: well maybe he comes in like in the eighth or

1212
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: ninth inning when his team's down by like six runs

1213
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: and they don't have to burn the bullpen when they

1214
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 1: do that in baseball now, the guys throw at forty

1215
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: miles an hour. It's the dumbest thing ever. That's a

1216
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: stupid rant that no one wants to listen to. H

1217
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of time in this lot. Meanwhile, meanwhile,

1218
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: audio Wise Colts Roundtable Live from last night, we got

1219
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: daily updates. We're gonna have that conversation with Shaquille Leonard

1220
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: on one of the updates and then we'll have it

1221
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: on Friday night as well. And full on Colts Happy

1222
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: Hour Inside Football this week with Rick Venturrey. That's gonna

1223
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: take a full snapshot of where the Colts are at

1224
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: right now. Thirteen games in kind of ricks thoughts for

1225
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: the last four games of the season, So a lot

1226
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: to consume this week, as always audio Wise on the

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Speaker 1: Colt's Audio Network, Guys, enjoy the rest of your bye week. Lara,

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Speaker 1: send us some picks from the beach. Enjoy yourself. Thank you,

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01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: Jay Jay, enjoy those Costco Tires from the Costco let

1230
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: us know how the great vacation. Hey man, you gotta

1231
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. This is the time to

1232
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: do it with a with no game coming up this

1233
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: weekend for the Colts, and so we will talk all

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01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: about the fallout from the week off and then get

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01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: you said ready to go next week when we come

1236
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: back next Tuesday, getting you ready for Saturday afternoon football

1237
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: between the Colts and the Vikings. For Lara over tim

1238
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: JJ stangup. It's I'm Matt Taylor. This is the official

1239
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: Colts podcast, brought to you by Win Bett, and we'll

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01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Thanks so much for following