WEBVTT - The Urgency of Now

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to woka F Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm recording this message to you after a weekend where

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<v Speaker 1>we all absorb the fact that white supremacist violence has

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<v Speaker 1>now become the norm in America, where ten people can

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<v Speaker 1>be gunned down, ten black people can be gunned down

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<v Speaker 1>on a Saturday at morning, going about their lives and

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<v Speaker 1>their business and be gunned down by a white man

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<v Speaker 1>that has decided to drive hours out of his way,

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<v Speaker 1>produce a hundred and six page manifesto and take their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Where we can spend the weekend pontificating on whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not these things are racially motivated, or whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans and their violent rhetoric has anything to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the outcome of where we are today. I am in

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with my friend and friend of the show, doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Christina Greer, Associate Professor of Politics at Fordham University, and

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<v Speaker 1>our conversation that you will listen to today came prior

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<v Speaker 1>to the shooting over the weekend. Folks, I can't express

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<v Speaker 1>to you that where we are as a country and

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<v Speaker 1>where we are going, and the path that we are

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<v Speaker 1>on is not good. It is dangerous, It is heartbreaking,

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<v Speaker 1>it is tragic, it is trauma inducing, it is triggering.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope that you will glean from this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with Christina some sense of honesty about the moment that

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<v Speaker 1>we are in, some ideas about how we move forward,

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<v Speaker 1>how we deal with our own emotions and the emotions

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<v Speaker 1>of this moment, how we stay sane and also recognize,

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<v Speaker 1>without putting our heads in the sand, the urgency of now.

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<v Speaker 1>So coming up next, my very in depth conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>our friend, doctor Christina Greer. Please do tell me in

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<v Speaker 1>the comment section below how you took the news this

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<v Speaker 1>past weekend. I was on TV but before the shooting

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<v Speaker 1>took place. If you're following me on TikTok, then you

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<v Speaker 1>know my immediate reactions. But I want to hear from

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<v Speaker 1>all of you, folks. I am so happy to welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to woke f Daily. It's been a long time

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<v Speaker 1>since we've had doctor Christina Greer, Professor of Political Science,

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<v Speaker 1>Associate Professor at Fordham University, and you see her very

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<v Speaker 1>often on MSNBC and other outlets talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the demise of our democracy and the constitutional crisis that

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<v Speaker 1>we're in Christina. I want to start off today just

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<v Speaker 1>asking you. We've had the Scotus leak that tells us

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<v Speaker 1>that abortion is going to be gone from this country

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time in fifty years. We have more

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<v Speaker 1>mounting evidence against this twice impeached former president of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. If I see one more breaking news headline

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<v Speaker 1>about more evidence of criminal wrongdoing of hiding documents at

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<v Speaker 1>Mara Lago of just I mean, lying, inciting violence, and

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<v Speaker 1>still nothing is happening with the Department of Justice. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you feeling about this moment that we are living in. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always great to be back to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know. You know, my grandma, who's from the

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<v Speaker 1>Deep South in town, a little town called yu LEI

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<v Speaker 1>was had some of ninth she finished some of ninth grade. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a PhD. My sister is an indeed. But

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<v Speaker 1>when I tell you she was the smartest woman I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever met. And I'm starting off this conversation saying that

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<v Speaker 1>she told me a long time ago when we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about kind of raise and white people. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>she grew up through a lot. She said, Chrissy, the

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<v Speaker 1>only time you should be surprised is when you're surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've stuck to that for a really, really long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not surprised. Abortion isn't going to be like, let

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<v Speaker 1>me rephrase, it looks like abortion will be outlawed legally,

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<v Speaker 1>what abortions will not stop? Right, So safe abortions will

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<v Speaker 1>be outlawed for most, but a lot of women will

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<v Speaker 1>still be able with meetings. We'll still be able to

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<v Speaker 1>find an abortion. Obviously, it's for women who are for

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<v Speaker 1>marginalized communities. They will still get abortions. It's just we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go back to the sixties and seventies and

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<v Speaker 1>a back room abortions, and we'll see some horrible effects.

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<v Speaker 1>But because I study American politics so deeply, I've always

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<v Speaker 1>seen this country ebb and flow with progress and regress,

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<v Speaker 1>and so when we're in a moment of regression, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a surprised. And even though it's very scary, I

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<v Speaker 1>will not lie the moment wherein it's very frightening on

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<v Speaker 1>a host of levels. We haven't even touched the environment,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's kind of like some irreversible stuff, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>I know that there are enough people who are working

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<v Speaker 1>in their various fields to sort of protect us. Still.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this country has been since its inception. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've had some really great strides because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people have worked really hard to move this country forward,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we have folks who work really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>pull it back. And so at some point, good meaning

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<v Speaker 1>white people will understand the capacity of white people. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't just yet. We do. Our mothers and grandmothers told

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<v Speaker 1>us what people are capable of in this nation. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of white people just fundamentally don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand what some of their own relatives will do to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of take away from others, which will ultimately affect

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<v Speaker 1>them too. It'll come around. And so part of me

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<v Speaker 1>just feels like I'm an ostrich where I'm like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic while we're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the glacier. But we kind of we've hit

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<v Speaker 1>the glacier before and we found rafts, and sadly we do.

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<v Speaker 1>We lose time, we lose people. But I think that

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<v Speaker 1>I can't stay in a perpetual state of rage or

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<v Speaker 1>panic because then I can't a do the work. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't stay focused on what the work is I can't

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<v Speaker 1>have clarity for young people where I need to be

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<v Speaker 1>a leader and help them devise new strategies. And also

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<v Speaker 1>it's like life is for the living. They're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>what they're gonna do, right, So we have to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out the tools to a keep ourselves healthy and sane

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<v Speaker 1>so that we can work in our various pockets to

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<v Speaker 1>move this country forward the way people have always done.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of where I am. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>so salient in what you're saying, and I'm listening to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm realizing that this country has been through a lot, right,

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<v Speaker 1>fortunate fortunate for us that we have lived through a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of progress, right. And I think that what I

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<v Speaker 1>find scary in this moment is that this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the first time in my adult life where

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<v Speaker 1>progress isn't even on the table, right, that we're in

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<v Speaker 1>a full on regression to times that I've only ever

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<v Speaker 1>read about. And so the fear for me is is

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<v Speaker 1>there enough strategy and tools to protect us at a

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<v Speaker 1>time when these radicalized white evangelical Christian fascists are not

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<v Speaker 1>only about turning back the clock on civil liberties, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're also about inflicting pain. That's the thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like people are not getting. This isn't just about

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<v Speaker 1>what they are taking away, which is serious. It is

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<v Speaker 1>about the kind of pain that they want to inflict

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<v Speaker 1>so people know that they are in charge. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>they've always done that. That's the history of this country.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know when I would give talks a

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<v Speaker 1>few years ago and I would talk about the Civil

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<v Speaker 1>Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, Immigration Act, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>say that they're triumphant of acts, and we cannot detangle

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<v Speaker 1>the three. And if you sort of start to erode one,

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<v Speaker 1>you erode all. We've seen this, right, we saw the

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<v Speaker 1>gutting of the Civil Rights Act or the Voting Rights Act,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we're seeing our civil rights and civil liberties

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<v Speaker 1>being yanked away. We've seen what's happening with immigration, which

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<v Speaker 1>is just abhorrent. But this country has never been welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to immigrants. You've got like eight different Chinese exclusion acts

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<v Speaker 1>on the books. You understand nothing about chattels to say

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<v Speaker 1>nothing about the genocide of Native Americans, say nothing about

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<v Speaker 1>what we did to you know, sort of Mexicans and

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<v Speaker 1>Spaniards coming from the South. I mean, like this country

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<v Speaker 1>is long and deep, you know. And I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>touch upon internment camps. And that's from FDR the good President, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that was like from one of the good guys. And

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<v Speaker 1>he put the internment camps in place. That also kept

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Italians and Germans in there too. So this

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<v Speaker 1>country has such a long history of inflicting pain, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think what was really key about what you

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<v Speaker 1>said is like we're adults now, right, Yeah, Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>time to put the big girl painties on, Like we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the luxury anymore of being girls. We are

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<v Speaker 1>grown ass women, and we're now in charge of protecting

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<v Speaker 1>the democracy. Right when we see all these stories about

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<v Speaker 1>black women, Fanny lou Hammer, Barbara Jordan, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the book that I'm working on right now. So those

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<v Speaker 1>two obviously refresh in my mind. But you know, countless,

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<v Speaker 1>countless black women how to be wells, aren't married church

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<v Speaker 1>terrelle who literally put their lives in their bodies on

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<v Speaker 1>the line to protect the people in this country, not

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<v Speaker 1>just black people, people in this country. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh shit, Mike, it's my time, Like I'm supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to use the tools that I have and

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<v Speaker 1>the thing maybe the reason why I feel so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not agnostic, and it's not immune, and it's not numb.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel a sense of calm in the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>I do feel prepared. I feel prepared intellectually. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>prepared with the community, the community that I've built in

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<v Speaker 1>the connections of especially black women, but you know others.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, let's just keep it black women right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The partnerships and the friendships and the sisterhoods that I

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<v Speaker 1>have people like present Company included. I am not fearful

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, I have tools, you have tools. You

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<v Speaker 1>know people who have tools. I know other people have tools.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like and we'll come together because we recognize

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<v Speaker 1>and like we can't count on the Democratic Party to

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<v Speaker 1>save us. I mean, they're just treading water. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as my grandfather, my dad's dad, you say, they're a

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<v Speaker 1>lost ball in high weeds. But they're just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Harrison, what are you doing? Where's your strategy? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it all, but like but that's real talk talk,

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<v Speaker 1>christ real talk. It's like, what what are they doing? Well? Right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>why do they seem so suckless? Love that word? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, here's here's the thing I said from day

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<v Speaker 1>one when Chuck Schumer became Senate Majority Leader, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>from New York, you know, I live in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>He is Senator. I was like, he ain't built for

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<v Speaker 1>this moment. He's not because he also doesn't understand his colleagues.

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<v Speaker 1>He and Joe Biden, you know, they were from the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate of a different time. Yeah, where the agenda was different,

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<v Speaker 1>but the pain, the level of pain that Republicans wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to inflict on people was ever so slightly different, it was,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they don't understand fully the moment they're in.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're removed, and it's it's interesting, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the older we get and we we go on vacations

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, we do certain things and you realize,

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<v Speaker 1>I just went on vacation with my family and we

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like rented a house. We sort of did

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<v Speaker 1>something that really kind of celebrated, you know, my niece

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<v Speaker 1>is about to go to college. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have a little pocket change, you actually don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to interact with people. It's true, you don't. You

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<v Speaker 1>can like we stayed we didn't stay hotel in my house,

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<v Speaker 1>right like it. So we didn't do like a tour.

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<v Speaker 1>We just like rented a boat, you know, like we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't and it's in it's COVID. So we did it deliberately,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're like but we also we didn't hang

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<v Speaker 1>out with people. We hung out with our saves, nine

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<v Speaker 1>of us. We hung out with our family. But we

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<v Speaker 1>spent money to do that. And I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these elected officials, they're not in gen

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<v Speaker 1>pop yep. Yeah, you know, they come and give speeches,

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<v Speaker 1>but they went in, they got their their talks and like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they are seeing the people that they represent, but are

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<v Speaker 1>you really with people? So when Katie Porter makes you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a speech and says, let me walk you through the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that like women can't buy groceries because you're know,

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<v Speaker 1>women buying large are the ones who buy groceries for

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<v Speaker 1>their family. Let me explain to you what inflation is

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<v Speaker 1>doing to a family. Because if I in my PhD

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<v Speaker 1>tenured full salaried self goes to the grocery store and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, fifty dollars barely gets me one bag of groceries,

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<v Speaker 1>and I call myself, Yeah, I don't understand what people

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<v Speaker 1>are doing with yeah, real families, and they got to

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<v Speaker 1>make this check last if they have a check, right, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if they have a job. So I think that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of our representatives because it costs so much money

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<v Speaker 1>to get into office. And you know, we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this for years, and you've come to my classes and

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about because the type of people who can

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<v Speaker 1>even think about running for office are already a certain

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<v Speaker 1>level of elite. We don't have very rarely. Every now

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<v Speaker 1>and again you have pockets, and you know someone can

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<v Speaker 1>get through. But by and large, our representatives are not

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<v Speaker 1>representative of the populaces. We don't have someone who's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a single mother, owned food stamps and I am

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<v Speaker 1>your new congresswoman. We have people who went to university

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<v Speaker 1>have graduate degrees by and large, you know, when we

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<v Speaker 1>look at sort of our senators and members of the

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<v Speaker 1>House disproportionately, you know what Richie Torres from the Bronx,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe is like one of the few, if not only,

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<v Speaker 1>members of Congress who doesn't have a college degree. Most

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<v Speaker 1>Americans don't, right, most college age Americans do not have

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<v Speaker 1>a college degree. Why is he either the solo or

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<v Speaker 1>one of a handful, Right, right, And so when we

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<v Speaker 1>think about who is actually representing us, it makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a whole bunch of lawyers and even some PhDs, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but like the vast majority of people are like, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's be real, you and I also don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>real poverty looks like. We don't We genuinely don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so oftentimes when I'm in these meetings and at

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<v Speaker 1>these tables, and my question is always where are the

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<v Speaker 1>people who we're talking about? Why are they not at

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<v Speaker 1>the stable? Why are we sitting here scratching our hands

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<v Speaker 1>trying to come up with solutions, and the people who

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<v Speaker 1>could tell us what the problem is and most likely

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<v Speaker 1>tell us what the solution is aren't even at the table.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is where we have our representatives, especially Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>who in their hearts might want to do something great,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like, you don't even know what the real

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<v Speaker 1>problem is. So this is why Alexandrea Castio Cortez, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>resonated and still resonates with so many people because it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like and Cory Bush, right, Corey Bush being one

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bush Yeah she's and what you said, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're You're so right, because they are not representative,

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<v Speaker 1>like they don't know real people, right and like and

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<v Speaker 1>so if I'm pretty sure that if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>ask those in Democratic leadership right now how much how

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<v Speaker 1>much a gallon of milk costs, they wouldn't be able

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you, so right like that, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the reality. And you know, and everyone's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>gallon milk. It's like I care, right, A woman who

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<v Speaker 1>has to be four children, she cares. I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>for an example, Danielle, you know, if you remember the

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<v Speaker 1>mayor's race, the New York City mayor's race last year,

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<v Speaker 1>when they asked the various candidates what was the average

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<v Speaker 1>price of a home in Brooklyn? These kids eighty thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty thousand dollars, But my grandparents in Florida, Like, who

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<v Speaker 1>is buying anything in Brooklyn for eighty thousand dollars? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>then I don't think you can get a parking space

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<v Speaker 1>for eighty thousand exactly, or your Honda civic, right because

0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you know that they charge more for like SUVs. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the numbers that these candidates gave Sean Donovan,

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<v Speaker 1>who you know Obama's yeah, yeah, he was he was

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<v Speaker 1>find he was the HUD secretary, that's right, And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I was just like, sir, sit on down, he

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<v Speaker 1>said something. I mean literally, he was like one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. I mean, you were the Hunt secretary. So

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be mayor of New York and you

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea, not even the fact that people are

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<v Speaker 1>priced out and can't buy anything. But that means you

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand what renters are going through. You don't understand

0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:14.080
<v Speaker 1>people can't even get a place with one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars down payment, let alone you think that's the price

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<v Speaker 1>of a home in Brooklyn, Like, sir, come on. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I'm I'm eerily zen because I think

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<v Speaker 1>that I understand just how long the road ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>us is going to be. And when I played sports,

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<v Speaker 1>I never liked doing that long distance run. I was

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<v Speaker 1>always like, coach, can I please just do sprints while

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's doing the mile, you know, around the field. Can

0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I just do sprints until they're done? And the coach

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<v Speaker 1>was like, no, you have to learn how to have endurance, Christy,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, yeah, yeah, but I'm really good

0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.280
<v Speaker 1>at sprinting and I can just do that, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>can just do the burst, do the birth, and then

0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.439
<v Speaker 1>I'll rest at the end of the game. And I

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<v Speaker 1>never understood I hated long distance running. I am not

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<v Speaker 1>a runner. Every time I see runners in my neighborhood,

0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what are you doing? But I recognize that

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<v Speaker 1>there is something to be said about resting so that

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<v Speaker 1>I can be ready, you know, like the best way

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<v Speaker 1>to be ready to stay ready. Sure, But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, I believe in rest because, especially in academia,

0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.160
<v Speaker 1>black women aren't lasting long. And we've got a good

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<v Speaker 1>job relatively speaking. You know, we're not cleaning floors at

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<v Speaker 1>three am in an office building and we're sitting here

0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:36.080
<v Speaker 1>thinking and writing on our laptops. Yet we're dying at

0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:40.560
<v Speaker 1>these disproportionate rates. So I am not going to let

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<v Speaker 1>this country take me out. And I understand that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually have a lot of tools and a lot

0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.760
<v Speaker 1>to give this moment and this movement where I actually

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing I can do is take care of

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<v Speaker 1>who were doing this work and and still do work.

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<v Speaker 1>find myself on a regular basis, which is oscillating between

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<v Speaker 1>rage and rest, where I am so filled with rage

0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:54.600
<v Speaker 1>that people are so asleep at the fucking wheel right

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<v Speaker 1>are So you know, I just posted Joy Behart on

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<v Speaker 1>the View just said like, I don't know what Americans

0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:08.320
<v Speaker 1>are thinking right now, Like we are losing our rights

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<v Speaker 1>every single day. She's like, I get that people are

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<v Speaker 1>focused on gas and inflation because those things matter, but

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<v Speaker 1>like at the end of the day, we're about to

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<v Speaker 1>lose everything, and y'all ain't paying attention, right, And so

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's the it's the anxiety. I have to stay

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<v Speaker 1>on screaming into the microphone, you know, every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I'm just like, well, shit, they gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>what they're gonna do, like and I can't I can't

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<v Speaker 1>be taken out by this. I can't be I can't

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<v Speaker 1>carry the emotional weight of this moment on my back.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, Danielle, some people will only learn

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<v Speaker 1>when they have nothing. Girl. They don't see it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some people don't see how the immigration crisis is linked

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<v Speaker 1>to them in their daily lives. They don't care. It's

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<v Speaker 1>brown children, it's Longitian children at the border. They are unbothered.

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<v Speaker 1>But they don't see how it's connected to a woman's

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<v Speaker 1>right to choose. You don't see how it's connected to

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the environment. They don't see how it's connected to their

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<v Speaker 1>job right. So it's like, okay, so now we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>it sucks, but we gotta wait until you catch up,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what we are used to doing. So while

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<v Speaker 1>you're sitting there knitting a pink hat, we gotta wait

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<v Speaker 1>for you to catch up, girl, and understand the severity

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<v Speaker 1>of the issue. But here we are. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>you come to the party, you're late. You're lad as hell,

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<v Speaker 1>but you came, and then we're gonna get you up

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<v Speaker 1>to speed and then we'll have progress and regrets. What

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<v Speaker 1>are your students? You they You know, I gotta tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was sitting in my poly side class, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all that I was dealing with was you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>precedent that got to blow job and lied about it, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like saying that seems like a marital issue to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that did not seem like I needed ken stars investedation

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:03.440
<v Speaker 1>and like an impeachment trial. It seemed like you probably

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<v Speaker 1>should get a divorce, right, um, And I'm not and

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<v Speaker 1>again I am. You know, there were major things that

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<v Speaker 1>were happening, but I'm talking about as a young person,

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 1>that was the biggest thing, literally, And so these these

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<v Speaker 1>young people that you're educating day in and day out,

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<v Speaker 1>what like, what are they thinking about the world that

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<v Speaker 1>they are being handed right now? The politics that they

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:37.399
<v Speaker 1>are coming to understand. They're disgusted. They're disgusted that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the people who are their age don't vote

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<v Speaker 1>because they're just starting to vote in you know, now

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:44.679
<v Speaker 1>they're in a policy class. Like, I can't believe all

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<v Speaker 1>these people don't vote, you know, when I explained to

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<v Speaker 1>them that, like, you know, during Obama's election two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and eight, that was like one of the most participatory

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<v Speaker 1>elections we had seen in modern history. Into the sixty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the voting eligible population showed up. That was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a barn storm, and they were like, wait. I was like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>where's that other forty percent? When all we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about was we could have the first black president forty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the voting eligible population. It was like, yah,

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<v Speaker 1>set this point out. So there are a few things.

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<v Speaker 1>One obviously, Roby Wade is something that they're just like,

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<v Speaker 1>and they now see the connection between you voting for

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<v Speaker 1>your senators and Roby Wade and the Spirit Report, and

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<v Speaker 1>so now we can now Federalist fifty one separation of

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<v Speaker 1>powers and checks and balances makes a lot of sense

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<v Speaker 1>to them because it's like, well, the President nominates somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Senate confirms them, and then they have a

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<v Speaker 1>job for life, and it's only nine of them representing

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred forty million people. So they're like, wait, I

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<v Speaker 1>admit it. So they are now seeing the connections from

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<v Speaker 1>the text to the front page of the New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times when it comes to say Ukraine. And now, granted,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an American politics professor, and that's even though I

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<v Speaker 1>teach interroid to politics, I teach it through an American

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<v Speaker 1>politics lens. We all teach it through the lens that

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<v Speaker 1>makes the most sense for us. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>my examples are American politics examples because we live in America,

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<v Speaker 1>but we read the paper and we talk a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about current events. So when it comes to Ukraine, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of my students, last majority of my students were like, listening,

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<v Speaker 1>this is real, and this is dangerous, and Putin's a

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<v Speaker 1>mess and we should pay attention. But a few things.

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<v Speaker 1>We just found eighty billion dollars under the couch cushion,

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<v Speaker 1>and another thirty billion, and now another forty billion, And

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<v Speaker 1>you tell me that you can't cancel these student loans.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one two. And maybe these are just the types

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 1>of students I attract because I am who I am.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're like, we get it. What's happening in the

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<v Speaker 1>Ukreane is terrible, and we should send some sort of aid,

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<v Speaker 1>we should figure it out. But when we started this semester,

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 1>things were popping off in Yemen and Afghanistan and Syria,

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<v Speaker 1>and ain't nobody really say a peep? And we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>find eighty billion dollars in the couch cushion, and didn't

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:03.159
<v Speaker 1>have a whole American like, let's bring all the refugees,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's open up. We have space for one hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>How we have space for one hundred thousand, one thousand,

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 1>but didn't have space for fourteen thousand Haitians at the border.

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>But who are just flood a country whose prime minister

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>was assassinated and it's being ravaged by COVID and you know, oh,

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and we're responsible for the economic disaster that their country

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>is in Boom and that earthquake that took out way

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>too many people and storytowns. It's like, well, that's also

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>an environmental crisis because they've had to cut down trees

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>to sort of say all these things. Right, So they're like,

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>so now they're scratching their heads. It's like, well, so

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 1>for the white refugees, we got all come, all the

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>money and all the time, all the money and all

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.360
<v Speaker 1>four time and all the open arms, right, we got

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the flags. We got peopleting their nails like we have everything.

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:49.919
<v Speaker 1>But it was crickets up in this piece when it

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>with Syria, Afghanistan, Haiti, you name it. So they're also

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>seeing that and they're like, this doesn't make any sense

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>to me. I'm like, because it doesn't make anything. But

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>if you know the country, it makes totals, it makes

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 1>all the sense in the world. It makes absolute and

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>total sense. And so then we talk about, you know,

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the project of whiteness and how it's tied to this

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>anti abortion movement, how it's tied to allowing in Ukrainian immigrants, right,

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:16.160
<v Speaker 1>because it can't make any more white people. So now

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.640
<v Speaker 1>we either got to like bring them in import them. Right,

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>You've already let the Greeks and the Italians and the

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Portuguese become white and Jews and Germans slowly, maturely, begrudgingly,

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.120
<v Speaker 1>but you allowed that. But now it's like, okay, so

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>now we've just got to make sure because of how

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>we structured our racial dynamics, unlike Brazil and other you know, say,

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Latin American countries, it's like only a white lady can

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 1>make a white person. Y'all structured it that way. You said,

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>one drop makes you not not in the game anymore.

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 1>So a woman's right to choose is intrinsically attached to

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>our white and the project of whiteness and the threat

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>that Latinos will take over is the number one group.

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>You know that twenty thirty two deadline, and you know

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>whites will be come the second one. And I was like,

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>first of all, we've seen what apartheid is, Like Latinos

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>could be the number two group. It's not that Latinos

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>will be in power, like we can still have an

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 1>apartheid regime. Whites could be the fifth largest group and

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>could still maintain power in various ways. And so how

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 1>they're seeing how we've taken away parts of the Voting

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Rights Act that's gonna limit people at the polls, which

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>will assist the Republican Party, and the corruption and as

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 1>you stated, all of the thuggery that we've seen. So

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>it's all interconnected. And I think what's been even in

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>the midst of a global pandemic, keep them keep that

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>in mind. We're still in the middle of a global pandemic.

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 1>But what I've been really happy about with these students,

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and I really really like gen Z. I like them

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot. I've said that from day one, more so

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>than the millennials, and I've said that one day two.

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I like the way they connect the dots. They don't

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>have as much, their parents don't have as much, so

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>they're not as entitled and they're sort of like, we

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 1>got to figure this out. We ain't got anhing. So

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>there's a work ethic that is there in this new

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:13.479
<v Speaker 1>generation that did not exist with millennials. Yeah, um, you know,

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:21.959
<v Speaker 1>it's just also fascinating and depressing at the same time.

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I feel about gen Z I'll

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>be honest, like, because I'm like, they are the softest

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>group of people I think I've ever heard and seen

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 1>in my life. Everything can't be a breakdown, like everything

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>like some things, you must be resilient four you know

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I think those are still Millennials.

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I think I honestly think that the gen Zers are

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>getting folded into the sort of like I was triggered child,

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you're at work, Like, right, girl, everything be agger right.

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the Millennials. I don't think that's the

0:30:54.520 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 1>gen Zers. Yeah, um, you know. I I worry for

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>this generation coming up because I think that they are

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>going to feel the brunt of all of the things.

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 1>They're going to be living inside a Banana Republic. They're

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>going to be hit with environmental historic environmental disaster after

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 1>historic environmental disaster, And I'm like, what did their lives

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>look like? What I have been educated in three years?

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Like real, half of them have not really been in

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>school for three years. But you know, it's like though,

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and this is where my optimism comes in. That's sometimes

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>when we get the most creative solutions. Like I'm really

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>wondering if this is what we needed as a nation

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>to shake us up, to get us back on track,

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>because we were in some status quote les fair, and

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 1>it's like and we weren't perfect before this pandemic and

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>before Republicans really started wilding out. I think Donald Trump

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>just exposed just how embedded this diseases in our country.

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>But we were just kind of cruising along like it

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there. It was there. He didn't create these people.

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>These people were always there. They were just sort of

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>in the shop. As he said, we are the silent majority.

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, oh snap, I don't think they're the majority,

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>but there's a lot of them. And I think it's like,

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what, it's I do think that at a

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 1>certain point in time, and I hate, you know, sort

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>of it's scary to say this, but it's like this

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>country needed to turn the lights on. Yeah, we have

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>finally just turned It's like, all right, now we see it.

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 1>What's up. It's twenty twenty two. We were actually we

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>got a lot more folks that are that one nineteen

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 1>fifty two, and we were just pretending that they didn't exist,

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>and we kept telling ourselves, Oh, they'll die off, they'll

0:32:55.880 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>die off, right. I was, It's like, why do people

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>keep saying like they'll die off? As if the people

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>that were marching in Charlottesville in twenty seventeen were eighty five?

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>They were they were twenty, right, Like do you know? Also?

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 1>And then I think Democrats fooled themselves to think, like,

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, demographics is destiny. It's like, oh, well, we'll

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>get all these immigrants and you know, then we'll have

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the numbers. It's like, well, first of all, not if

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>you get the Voting Rights Act, And second of all,

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 1>you can look at voting patterns and say a place

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 1>like Arizona, where you know there are a lot of

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Latino Republicans who are like, yes, I was an immigrant,

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes I may have been an undocumented immigrant. I am

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>up the ladder and I'm pulling it up, and I

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>want to make Mosttonian rules for all the immigrants out there.

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>So it's just like, you know, we've seen we've seen

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>it now with the growing Asian American Republican population. We

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>see it with all these black folks, you know, who

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 1>were sort of skyrocketing to the front of the Republican

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>party because it's like, well, if I'm a Democrat, then

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I got to wait in line behind all these people.

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>If I just say negroes are too stupid to you know,

0:33:57.640 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>have jobs and homes and you know, excelling this kind,

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 1>you can run for governor and get all the money.

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at you, mister Kentucky. So I think that,

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, democrats underestimate the allure of the policies that

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Republicans sell to people. Yea, how there's a lot of

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 1>money to be made in taking away There's a lot

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>of money to be made in taking things away from people,

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and they get it. They get it, and I think

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Democrats are still just like, well, shucks, let's you know,

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:34.760
<v Speaker 1>let's be kind and nice. It's like a last question

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>for you, Christina. This conversation has just been so as always,

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>so so invigorating, so so many, so many morsels, so

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>many pieces are so filling for me because you make

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 1>me feel not crazy. It's like, where where do I

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 1>go to feel like I'm not crazy? I come to

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you with all that is happening though with all of

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 1>this pressure, with all of this regression, to me, I

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>only see this leading to one place. Right, Like when

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you turn on all the lights, all of the cockroaches

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>don't go away, right, They leave eggs, And so sometimes

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:21.439
<v Speaker 1>you need to bomb the home that has become infested

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:25.320
<v Speaker 1>in order for there to be the possibility of actually

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 1>living there. That is how I feel about America. Are

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>we headed towards a revolution? Towards an uprising? Because I

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know how you control how nine people control three

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:41.879
<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty million and think that like we're all

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>going to go quietly into the good goddamn night, back

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>to nineteen fifty two, right. I think I'm of two minds.

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 1>So one mind is, listen, of all the guns in

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:57.360
<v Speaker 1>the world, We've got a quarter of them in America,

0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:59.760
<v Speaker 1>And of the people who have guns, the vast majority

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>of them belong to one party. So let's just say

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 1>we take the violent route. I prefer not to because

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:11.840
<v Speaker 1>we are we are outnumbered and unarmed, and we also

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 1>know that people in our armed forces and our military

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>forces by and large, have white supremosis tendencies. So I

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 1>would prefer not to not to broach that that road,

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 1>because I think that it's it's not a road that

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:30.280
<v Speaker 1>ends up well for people like us. The other road

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:34.879
<v Speaker 1>is the more optimistic road. There are ways we've changed

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 1>the Constitution several times. Think about thirteen, fourteen, fifteenth Amendment,

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>think about the nineteenth amendment, the women white women. We

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 1>can think about the twenty sixth amendment that you know,

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>let younger people vote. We can think it about amendment.

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Think about an amendment to increase the size of the court.

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 1>That's one of my final exam questions some years. You know,

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:58.719
<v Speaker 1>do we increase the size of the Supreme Court? And

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 1>if so, what's the number? You know, if we were

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 1>increased it to thirteen, will we just have a six

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 1>seven majority and just basically instead of five fours, we'll

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 1>just have you know, seven sixes. Do we make it

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty one? Do we make it fifty? We know that

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 1>they're transaction costs and conforming costs, and the more people

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 1>you got, the harder it is, and so you know,

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 1>things take longer. So there's some pros and cons to

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 1>changing the system, but that doesn't mean that we can't

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 1>do it. And as my incredibly brilliant grandmother, you still

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 1>always say, if we could put a man on the moon.

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 1>We can figure this out. I mean, I gave a

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 1>talk once at a transportation equity forum, and I was

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about how we can figure out a way to

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>make transportation cheaper, if not relatively free, for poor people.

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:44.400
<v Speaker 1>We can find some metrics to sort of measure what

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>is poverty and all these other things. But you know,

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 1>we figured out for students and we get them a

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 1>metric card and senior citizens. So it's basically saying, like

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 1>there can be some sort of means test for marginalized

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:57.319
<v Speaker 1>communities to help them pay for a public transit. This

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 1>man in the audience just, no, that's impossible. You know,

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:02.760
<v Speaker 1>we can't do we can't. We can't, we can't, we can't.

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:04.840
<v Speaker 1>And so I gave him the line of, like we

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 1>put a man on the moon, I think we can

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 1>figure out how to give a poor person a bus pass. Right.

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>It's not that deep. And I think that there are

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of ways in this country. Going back to

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>your point about like this this new generation, I think

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>that they will come up with some creative solutions that

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you and I just can't see. We've been in this

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:25.280
<v Speaker 1>institution our whole lives. We have been institutionalized me, especially

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 1>in graduation, for so long, you know, and now I

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 1>work in an institution like Trust and Believe. I talked

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:32.359
<v Speaker 1>to my therapist about this all the time, like, why

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:34.880
<v Speaker 1>is it that I've chosen to be in institutions my

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 1>whole life, the whitest of the white, the sort of

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, elitist, of the most elite and the most unwelcoming.

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Yet I signed up to keep doing it for a

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>future generation purposes. So I think though that this I

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:56.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I'm just feeling really good about some of

0:38:56.920 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 1>the young many of the young people who we're like,

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:04.320
<v Speaker 1>we're passing over a shit sandwich and they're like, okay,

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Like all right, we'll figure it out. I really hope

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>that they do. And I hope so that you continue

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 1>to educate them and inspire them to do something create

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:21.759
<v Speaker 1>and innovative with that a ship that we are giving them.

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>That's my job, and I take it really seriously, you know,

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 1>And I think the reason why I am not filled

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<v Speaker 1>with rage, I am, you know. I'm definitely worried, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have my days where I'm like, ah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think because I have the privilege of seeing of

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<v Speaker 1>a planting seeds and seeing sort of things bloom. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't always bloom in that three and a half months

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<v Speaker 1>that they're with me, but sometimes they bloom in three years.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes sometimes I'll get an email from you know, Stupero

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. I was like, Hey, that thing you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I finally it finally clicked. I finally get it, and

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm doing X with my life. And so there's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the beauty of being an educator. I think that's like,

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<v Speaker 1>that is the secret when people are like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand why these teachers, you know, you make no money

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<v Speaker 1>relatively speaking, right, you were not respected by your principle

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<v Speaker 1>or your school district, and like academics, it's like you

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<v Speaker 1>won't went to all this extra schooling to make a

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<v Speaker 1>few extra dollars more than a regular teacher, Like why

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<v Speaker 1>do you do it? It's like, because there is nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that compares to planting a seed and a young person

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<v Speaker 1>and then seeing it grow in front of your eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like oh snap, and recognizing you are then

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<v Speaker 1>changing literally the course of history. So that's why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like, all right, well, yeah know we are

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<v Speaker 1>where we are, girl, We're gonna be where we at However,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna I think we're gonna be okay. You keep planting,

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<v Speaker 1>you keep planting, I'll keep oscillating between rage and rest,

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<v Speaker 1>and we need that now. We will make it to

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<v Speaker 1>the other side. Dear friend, doctor Christina Greer, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much, thank for this lesson, for this time. I

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