WEBVTT - S1 Episode 12: Black Lives Matter

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<v Speaker 1>Drafted as a production of tree Fort Media, Clutch Sports Group,

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<v Speaker 1>and I Heart Radio. It's been ten days since George

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<v Speaker 1>Floyd was brutally murdered. How many times do we need

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you to listen to your players? What will

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<v Speaker 1>it take for one of us to be murdered bout

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<v Speaker 1>police brutality? What if I was George Floyd, If I

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<v Speaker 1>was George Floyd, If I was George Floyd, if I

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<v Speaker 1>was George if I was George Floyd, George Floyd, I

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<v Speaker 1>am Brian, I am About, I am Eric, I am

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<v Speaker 1>Tamir Right Marker, I am Walking Scott, I am Michael Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>I am Samuel the Boys. I am Friend. I'm find

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<v Speaker 1>of wife Jordan Baker, who will not be silent in

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<v Speaker 1>the protest. It shouldn't take this long, Love, then so on,

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<v Speaker 1>behalf of the National Football League. This is what we

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<v Speaker 1>the players would like to hear you. Stay. We National

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<v Speaker 1>condemn racism and the systematic oppression of black people. Be

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<v Speaker 1>week National admit wrong and silence in our players from

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<v Speaker 1>peacefully protesting. We believe black lives matter. Black lives matters.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Drafted. You just heard the biggest stars

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<v Speaker 1>in football from Super Bowl m v P Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>Rookie of the Year sa Kwan Barkley, to this year's

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<v Speaker 1>number two draft pick, Washington rookie Chase Young, all of

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<v Speaker 1>them featured in a rogue viral video demanding change in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL and our country. In previous episodes, we've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>a unique look at the lives of eight athletes entering

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League, and now in the final installment

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<v Speaker 1>of this season of Drafted, these players are joining their

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<v Speaker 1>teams and beginning their careers in the middle of a

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<v Speaker 1>pandemic during a social revolution denouncing racial injustice, police brutality,

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<v Speaker 1>and systemic oppression. People are protesting everywhere, during sporting events

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<v Speaker 1>and in the streets. For the first time in their careers,

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<v Speaker 1>the eight NFL rookies we've been hearing from will have

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<v Speaker 1>a major platform for their voices, one that has been

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<v Speaker 1>shrouded in political controversy since two thousand sixteen. It's almost

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<v Speaker 1>a three sixty going back to Kaepernick. That's Damarius Bilbo

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<v Speaker 1>from Clutched Sports Group, Like when you have a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that was as talented as he is and he stood

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<v Speaker 1>up for something and our our neil for something and

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<v Speaker 1>end up not being employed anymore. You know, it puts

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<v Speaker 1>fair in these guys. What began as a debate about

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<v Speaker 1>kneeling during the national anthem turned into worldwide outrage over

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<v Speaker 1>officers taking a much more horrifying knee on the neck

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<v Speaker 1>of another man. I won't justice for my brother, my

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<v Speaker 1>big brother. That's Big Floord. Everybody know who Big Floyd is.

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<v Speaker 1>Now everybody gonna remember him around the world. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to change the world. In death, George Floyd has become

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<v Speaker 1>the symbol for action everywhere. His final words I can't

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<v Speaker 1>breathe have been displayed on signs and chanted by crowds

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<v Speaker 1>in solidarity protests across the globe. A world already turned

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<v Speaker 1>upside down by the novel Coronavirus, became further disrupted by

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<v Speaker 1>the tragedy in May, affecting politics, business, culture, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course sports. The George Floyd videos one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>disturbing things that I've ever seen personally. That's cornerback Bryce

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<v Speaker 1>Hall now with the New York Jets. The reality is

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<v Speaker 1>just that, you know, I haven't experienced something to that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of depth, and to see that for myself and

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<v Speaker 1>internalized that was shocking, And it's a different thing when

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<v Speaker 1>you hear about things um, when you are taught things

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<v Speaker 1>from other people or in school, when you learn things

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<v Speaker 1>UM versus actually being present during in a situation and

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<v Speaker 1>environment where you see the whole thing infold and manifest

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<v Speaker 1>with your own eyes. You know, it's just it's just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of awakening and come to realization that this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is real. My dad he grew up in Louisiana and

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<v Speaker 1>he's kind of been exposed to some things along those lines.

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<v Speaker 1>And some of the things that my dad talks about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's not just saying it just to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's very real. Bryce's father wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>shield his children from the racism he experienced in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>repeating occurrence. He was certain his kids would also be

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<v Speaker 1>subjected to. I have so I have two older brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>my blood brothers, um there, and their names are Derek

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<v Speaker 1>and Philip, and obviously my name is Bryce. But he

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<v Speaker 1>had named us these names because he never wanted us

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<v Speaker 1>to have a disadvantage if somebody were to look at

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<v Speaker 1>our names and they couldn't tell if you know who

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<v Speaker 1>we are, but they just looked on paper and they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be able to racially profile you know, they sound

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<v Speaker 1>just like any other name, so they couldn't discriminate on

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<v Speaker 1>the name. And I thought that was something that I

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of blew my mind. Was very interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>I never knew that, and that's something that he shared

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<v Speaker 1>with me recently. I grew up in the South and

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<v Speaker 1>we's in Dad Michael Hall, So my exposure to racism

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<v Speaker 1>or a feeling of blacks being inferior or treated differently

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, I mean, that was a reality there. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're a black person, you defer to white people. In

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<v Speaker 1>particularly older black people were trained that way. One world,

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<v Speaker 1>all I had was a band director, Mr. Wilhide in

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<v Speaker 1>sixth grade. Um, he was a black man. If he

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<v Speaker 1>would come from the different he would go to a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of different schools and teach a band. He came

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<v Speaker 1>to school late and we were messing around and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as kids cutting up. He basically thanked all

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<v Speaker 1>of us and he told us, I want you all

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<v Speaker 1>to learn this lesson and never forget it. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be treated, if you want to get equal

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<v Speaker 1>treatment this world, if you apply for a job or anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to be twice as good just to

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<v Speaker 1>get equal. Right, cognition and you never forget that. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's why you can't afford to be wasting time not practicing,

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<v Speaker 1>not working, not doing your homework. And that lesson stuck

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<v Speaker 1>with me. So I always realized, as a black person,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to try twice as hard just to get

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<v Speaker 1>a fair break. And that's the injustice, that's the unfairness,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we've had to deal with. And Bryce and

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<v Speaker 1>he always felt like, well, things are different. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>getting treated differently. That was your world. That's not my world.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you see what happened to George Floyd Nor,

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<v Speaker 1>my world is still exists. That world has never gone away.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that was like a bucket of cold

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<v Speaker 1>water in his face to realize that, you know, things

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<v Speaker 1>have changed, but they haven't changed that much at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Has been taught to stand up for yourself and stand

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<v Speaker 1>up for what you believe in. That's Denver Broncos cornerback

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<v Speaker 1>is saying, Bassie, if I see somebody treating my teammate,

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<v Speaker 1>my classmate a different way, you know that's gonna affect

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<v Speaker 1>me because they could easily turn that that hate towards

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<v Speaker 1>me or something. You know. So when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 1>my parents would always be like, you know, not everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>your friend. Be careful what you say around these people

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<v Speaker 1>who are act the third way around these people because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't. You don't want them to think something else

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<v Speaker 1>than what it is. Similar to how Bryce didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>or experience the overt racism his dad warned him about

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<v Speaker 1>on a day to day basis, is saying also didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think the warnings applied to his daily existence, at least

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<v Speaker 1>not until one night this past summer, while he was

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<v Speaker 1>home waiting to join his new team for training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Atlanta, uh Lily around the corner down

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<v Speaker 1>the street from where Brookes was shot and killed at

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<v Speaker 1>that Wendy's Um. Less than the while away I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was right there, and I remember having that conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with my parents, the fear and their voices, and like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, those things, when you see those things happen,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you start to realize, Oh, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>she was trying to tell me. This is what my

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<v Speaker 1>dad was telling me about when I was growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what he means. This is what he meant

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<v Speaker 1>by you don't talk back to a police officer. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>do this, don't you know carry yourself a certain way,

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<v Speaker 1>So do everything in your power that no harm comes

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<v Speaker 1>to you. And that's just how it is growing up

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<v Speaker 1>as an African American. These are things that black people

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<v Speaker 1>have been enduring for four years, these social injustices. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's like a it's like that bad dream that

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<v Speaker 1>you keep having. It's just you keep having that same nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>Tragon Martin was the first time that I really felt that,

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<v Speaker 1>And then you have all these Philando Castile, Alton Sterling,

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Gardner, Like I said, that bad dream keeps happening

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<v Speaker 1>and happening and happening. George Floyd, you know, keeps happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Brianna Taylor, it keeps happening. That was an accident. It

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<v Speaker 1>should have never happened. They were at the wrong house.

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<v Speaker 1>She was not supposed to be killed. This is Garmet,

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<v Speaker 1>Mama Lou, another member of Clutched Sports Group. So why

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<v Speaker 1>didn't Why has no one done anything about that? That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's what makes you feel like the experience of a

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<v Speaker 1>black woman and a black man are different. The cops

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<v Speaker 1>in that situation, in Brianna Taylor's situation have yet to

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<v Speaker 1>be arrested. Garmet is part of the team representing many

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<v Speaker 1>of the top rookies joining the NFL, and she offers

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<v Speaker 1>a rarely heard perspective in this predominantly male sports world.

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<v Speaker 1>When you talk about in dissect the safety of what

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<v Speaker 1>it means to be a black woman in this place,

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<v Speaker 1>when you don't feel protected one because of your sex,

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<v Speaker 1>because the people that should be protecting you, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>worry about them harming you. You see cops body slamming women,

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<v Speaker 1>You hear about cops raping women that are taken into custody.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't feel valued when you are constantly shown video

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<v Speaker 1>of your life meaning nothing. You feel insignificant. You feel helpless.

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<v Speaker 1>When you are a woman and you're sleeping in your

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<v Speaker 1>bed and you die, and your cops are your killers,

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<v Speaker 1>your murderers are still walking enjoying their life, you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like nobody cares. So in the same way we are

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<v Speaker 1>enraged and making sure what happened or whatever will happen

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<v Speaker 1>with George Floyd's murderers, whatever happened to the men that

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<v Speaker 1>murdered mad Aubrey, I just want us to have that

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<v Speaker 1>same concern and compassion for Brianna Taylor and every other

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<v Speaker 1>woman who has lost her life at the hands of

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<v Speaker 1>the same social injustices and the same needs on next.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of times, sorry, a lot of times black

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<v Speaker 1>women are encouraged and forced to be strong, and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't always seem like people see that we need to

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<v Speaker 1>be soft too, and we need to be protected, and

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<v Speaker 1>we need to be cared for, and we need justice.

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<v Speaker 1>We go and march for our brothers. We go and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that their lives are never forgotten. That who

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<v Speaker 1>killed them, whoever her harm them, we go and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that they go to court, go to jail. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>needs to happen, we make that happen. As a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>as a black woman, I would love to see us

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<v Speaker 1>make that happen for us. I'm sorry, I was not

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<v Speaker 1>expecting to cry. We'll be right back. When you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the word hate, it doesn't have a color. Hate

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<v Speaker 1>is a mindset Rich Paul had of clut sports. It's

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<v Speaker 1>something that's taught to you based upon an environment that

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<v Speaker 1>you grew up in a situation that you're going through.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's the other layer added to where colors

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<v Speaker 1>added because as an individual, you have to have someone

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<v Speaker 1>to take that hate out on. So here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the first time I feel like people are

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<v Speaker 1>listening and the right steps are being taken. Is well

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<v Speaker 1>things happen overnight. No, can you expect people to feel

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<v Speaker 1>sorry for you? No, but we can take two steps

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<v Speaker 1>for me. It starts with better educating yourself all the

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<v Speaker 1>way around the board. The only way this system could

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<v Speaker 1>change is its leaders has to be willing to listen

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<v Speaker 1>and want to change. I think seeing lives being taken away,

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<v Speaker 1>they've been taking us almost like it's become so second

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<v Speaker 1>nature to see these type things. To marry his billbo again.

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<v Speaker 1>It puts the fear of God and me when I

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<v Speaker 1>get pulled over, when I even see a police officer

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<v Speaker 1>come behind me, And you don't want to live like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I found this topic just occupying. It affects the

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<v Speaker 1>way I raised my son. It affects, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>way I moved, Like the way I jump. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>literally when I jump in my car. Now I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>around in the car, I'm making I'm checking my lights,

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<v Speaker 1>making sure lights because I don't want to get pulled over.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I'm just it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it completely changes everything and how you move. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, I love being a black man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you know, but it's some days that

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<v Speaker 1>I wake up and I'm just like, when is this

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hit home? You know what I'm saying, When is

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<v Speaker 1>it gonna you know? Because like I, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been pulled over by cops and I've seen and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big dude, I've seen the fear and I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get emotionally even talking about it because it sucks. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's something that you know, like you have kids,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even want to raise kids, Like I we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about having another kid at one point. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even want to bring another kid in the world. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>For to Marrus, it's not just the fear of what

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<v Speaker 1>might happen. It's about what has already happened and what

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<v Speaker 1>continues to happen the community I live in. I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>only African American family in my community. It was hard

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<v Speaker 1>for me to move into this neighbor hood. Million dollar

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<v Speaker 1>homes in this neighborhood and see everybody. I moved my

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<v Speaker 1>family here for a reason, and then all the windows

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<v Speaker 1>in the front of my home were busted. To have

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<v Speaker 1>my home vandalized to that extent, and uh, to see

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<v Speaker 1>the camera pick up the white kids faces, multiple white

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<v Speaker 1>kids faces, and no arrest being made, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like goes away. But it's hard for me

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<v Speaker 1>to walk this neighborhood and blame everybody for that right,

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<v Speaker 1>for that one person's actions, because I have, for for

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<v Speaker 1>a moment, I was better, I was mad. I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I moved my family here because it's a beautiful neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>grade school systems, and we have a lovely home just

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody else on the block, you know, But why

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<v Speaker 1>my home? And then you start to kind of look

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<v Speaker 1>at yourself and they don't know me, they don't know

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my heart, they don't know my family, And

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<v Speaker 1>this is how we welcome to this neighborhood, if that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it was. But it was hard for me to

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<v Speaker 1>leave that someone didn't intentionally do this to my home

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<v Speaker 1>because I had just been here for a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>months and um. But again, I don't judge a whole

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<v Speaker 1>race of people for one person's actions, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>how that feels to be pre judged before you even

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<v Speaker 1>get in the room with people. Uh, And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>coming from mass point allowed me to do it allowed

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<v Speaker 1>me to see very diverse people. Damarius grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>Moss Point, Mississippi, a place where he earned high school

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<v Speaker 1>All American accolades and football and baseball, but that athletic

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<v Speaker 1>success didn't change how people in the area saw him.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in Masspow, Mississippi, really small town on

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<v Speaker 1>the Gulf coast of Mississippi. I mean it's a hop

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<v Speaker 1>from Mobile, Alabama, and I had my fair share of

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<v Speaker 1>running with people with Confederate flags on their trucks and

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<v Speaker 1>throwing bottles out of a window at me when I

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<v Speaker 1>was running just trying to get the work out in,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, being in the middle of a baseball

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<v Speaker 1>game and second baseman calling me the inn word, and

0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:01.439
<v Speaker 1>you know things like that. So I seen my share

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<v Speaker 1>of racism, but that doesn't breed hate in my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>After the George Floyd thing, obviously there were a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of situation from Trey von Martin, Philando Cashier to all

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<v Speaker 1>these people who have before George Floyd. But to finally

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<v Speaker 1>see it and have that that moment where that could

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<v Speaker 1>have been a friend of brother, a cousin and made

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<v Speaker 1>it more realistic. What it made it real because that

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<v Speaker 1>man life was taken right in front of all our eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I've had players again going back to

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<v Speaker 1>that that that John Lewis quote. You know, that's not fair,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not right, that's unjust. You know, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>do something about it because it's a more obligation. Just

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<v Speaker 1>five weeks after George Floyd's death, we lost Congressman John Lewis,

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<v Speaker 1>the trail blazing civil rights legend from Georgia, a leader

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<v Speaker 1>in this movement and many of the others that came before.

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<v Speaker 1>The late Congressman, often referred to as the conscience of Congress,

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<v Speaker 1>regularly spoke on this inherent obligation stand out, speak up

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<v Speaker 1>when you see something that is not right, not fair,

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<v Speaker 1>not just. If you have a moral obligation to do something,

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<v Speaker 1>to say something and not be quiet. As Dr Martino

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<v Speaker 1>the King Jr. Said, hate is too heavy a burden

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<v Speaker 1>to bed. Yeah, we have come a distance. We made

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of programs as a nation and as a people,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're not there yet. Congressman Lewis participated in this

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<v Speaker 1>fight since the nineteen sixties, when Americans last experienced protests

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<v Speaker 1>of this magnitude. Let at the time by Dr Martin

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<v Speaker 1>Luther King Jr. You know, as I looked too, people

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<v Speaker 1>who have been through so much adversity but have made

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<v Speaker 1>a huge difference. That's Bryce Hall again, Martin Luther King.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things he's famous for saying is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>darkness can't drive out darkness, only light can do that.

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<v Speaker 1>In the same with hate. You can't drive out hate

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<v Speaker 1>with hate. It takes love, and so I truly believe

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<v Speaker 1>that's the answer. You know, what I'm trying to model

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<v Speaker 1>is having to move with love first. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the easiest thing, but you know it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a commandment because you know, that's what one thing we

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<v Speaker 1>are called to do. And if we could ever get

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<v Speaker 1>that right, I think we will see a huge impact

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<v Speaker 1>and a huge difference on everything that we're seeing. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back. As bad as it sounds, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that conversation is being had. I'm glad people

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<v Speaker 1>are starting to realize that change needs to happen once again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's saying Bassie football was taken away. People are starting

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<v Speaker 1>now to focus on things outside of just what they

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<v Speaker 1>can go through in their daily lives, their daily routine,

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<v Speaker 1>and are trying to realize that other people around them,

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<v Speaker 1>even the people closest to them, could be going through

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<v Speaker 1>things and and are affected by these these events, and

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<v Speaker 1>people are starting to be more considerate towards that, and

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<v Speaker 1>conversations are being to have that that haven't happened before,

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<v Speaker 1>and people are trying to implement change into how we operate.

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<v Speaker 1>So just like I said, I've been growing up with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been living it like my whole life. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>people's eyes are starting to open up. And now other people,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like other people are starting now to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>see into what's been going on. It's not always easy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not gonna sit here and say that

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<v Speaker 1>I've always done that and I've always even though that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's been in my heart. But that's something I'm learning,

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<v Speaker 1>like as a leader, and some something that um needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be done is understanding that, you know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the I think one of the things I'm really learning,

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<v Speaker 1>especially during the times, is no matter what you do,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, you can be the most kind person,

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<v Speaker 1>you can smile, you can just care for people, but

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<v Speaker 1>work through all less of that, there's gonna be some

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who just this. You're not always going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to please everybody is what I'm trying to get at.

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<v Speaker 1>And so then it comes down to standing for your

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<v Speaker 1>core and what you believe and to your point of

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<v Speaker 1>saying when you see something, say in something. And that's very,

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<v Speaker 1>very true because like a lot of times we don't

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<v Speaker 1>because of the you know, it's easier to avoid timeflict

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<v Speaker 1>and it's easier to let something slide. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>part of being of leadership is stepping outside that comfort

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<v Speaker 1>zone and understanding that you got to stand for your

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<v Speaker 1>convictions and if you don't, you know, um my, my

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<v Speaker 1>wife loves to remind me that wife is Nzelville Yun

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<v Speaker 1>who said yes to Bryce's proposal last episode. They're now

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<v Speaker 1>happily married. My wife loves to remind me, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't stand for anything, you'll fall for everything. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the areas that I'm growing in. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's absolutely something I believe in. My core is is

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<v Speaker 1>is that it is if you see something, you say something,

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<v Speaker 1>do something, say something, don't stay quiet in the face

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<v Speaker 1>of injustice. John Lewis's message is more important than ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Our four mothers and our forefathers wrote us to this

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<v Speaker 1>place maybe our four mothers and our forefathers all came

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<v Speaker 1>to this great land in different ships. But as the

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<v Speaker 1>late E. Philorandolv said on one occasion, we are all

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<v Speaker 1>in the same boat now, and we must look out

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<v Speaker 1>for each other and care for each other. You're never

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<v Speaker 1>too young or too old to lead, to speak up,

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<v Speaker 1>to speak out and getting good trouble necessary trouble you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot afford to stand on the slideline. We're seeing history

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<v Speaker 1>unfold to marry his billbo again, and things are are changing.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing about the civil rights movement wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>weak thing. It wasn't a month thing, it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>year thing. It went on and on and on until

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<v Speaker 1>things changed. And I think that's what we have to understand,

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<v Speaker 1>that we have to keep the consistency going. You know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it might start off with with riots and marches and

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. At first, that's the attention grabber, but

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<v Speaker 1>at some point, what do we drive all that momentum

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<v Speaker 1>towards getting things changed and find a solution. Here's Garmet

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<v Speaker 1>Mama Loo again on what she sees firsthand from NFL

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<v Speaker 1>players and what needs to happen next. Those black men,

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<v Speaker 1>those strong black men that I know that are in

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<v Speaker 1>the league, the ones that stand for something, that want

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 1>to use their platform to highlight those things. They haven't

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<v Speaker 1>let up. They're not They're always going to be vocal

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<v Speaker 1>about injustices. You have people like Eric Reid who has

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<v Speaker 1>not stopped. He was right there kneeling with Colin Kaepernick,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has not stopped using his voice, using his platforms,

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 1>using his social media, whatever is necessary to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>Black Lives Matter message going. The importance of understanding and

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<v Speaker 1>highlighting social injustices until they are no longer injustices. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of situations that I unfortunately we can

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<v Speaker 1>go back in history and like it's like it's repeating itself.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of my favorite quotes is lessons are repeated

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<v Speaker 1>until lessons are learned. We haven't learned our lesson yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that we should still be like, out there,

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<v Speaker 1>you do whatever that means for you, whatever protesting means

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 1>for you. If it means marching, if it means not

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:10.360
<v Speaker 1>spending money in certain places, if it means signing petitions

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and organizing petitions, if it means posting links, if it

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<v Speaker 1>means going out and making sure the the protesters have water.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it means for you to make sure that this

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<v Speaker 1>message and this mission does not die down. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you should still be doing that. Every two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty NFL rookie faces a decision do they want

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<v Speaker 1>to carry the torch of protesting and activism and professional

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 1>sports Beyond the well known examples like Muhammad Ali fighting

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<v Speaker 1>against war and racism and for civil rights, there's Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>Smith and John Carlos stand at the Olympics waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>their medals on the podium, fists clenched above their heads

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and protest against racial discrimination. Jackie Robinson calling out Major

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<v Speaker 1>League Baseball for its lack of black managers on the

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary of his day you with the Brooklyn Dodgers and

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Colin Kaepernick bona fide star striving to use his new

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<v Speaker 1>found platform to call attention to police brutality and racial

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<v Speaker 1>inequality and losing his career as a result. But the

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<v Speaker 1>tide may have turned. We the National Football League condemn

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<v Speaker 1>racism in the systematic oppression of black people. This is

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Commissioner Roger Goodell. On June five, We the National Football

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<v Speaker 1>League admit we were wrong for not listening to NFL

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:36.679
<v Speaker 1>players earlier and encourage all to speak out and peacefully protests.

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 1>We the National Football League believe black lives matter. The

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:45.120
<v Speaker 1>NFL's brightest stars stood up and said something, and their

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 1>league responded and what is being described as a stunning

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 1>reversal of policy at a bell Weather for the national

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 1>conversation and movement, the NFL changed its position and this

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<v Speaker 1>novel support creates an opportunity and a huge responsibility for

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<v Speaker 1>these young players entering the league because we look at

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<v Speaker 1>our athletes as role models and we listen to their

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<v Speaker 1>voices in the media. Because sports can bring us together,

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 1>they can help pave the way forward. We all have

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>a platform, no matter how big are small. Demarious Bilbo again,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you can go to war with your

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>brother in the football game for four quarters and you

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>can play a nine inning baseball game with me, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you should be able to fight this fight with me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's when people will start seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>change with NASCAR, right when they decided to remove the

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<v Speaker 1>Confederate flag, a scene as an all white sport being

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<v Speaker 1>really diversifying. We're bringing a guy like Alvin Kamara and

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<v Speaker 1>you got a young kid from Atlanta with Dres and

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<v Speaker 1>a nose ring, you know, out there waving a flag

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>at NASCAR. It's a beautiful thing to see. And I

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>think what we need to do is just share a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of our world with with different people. Just bring

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>them in our world as we're going in their world.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think when you have that perspective, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a different understanding. You have to tear some of those

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<v Speaker 1>walls down to to build some positive things back up.

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<v Speaker 1>And from what I've been saying that it looks as

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<v Speaker 1>if it's going in the right direction. The future depends

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<v Speaker 1>on the Alvin kamara is waving a green flag at

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<v Speaker 1>Bristol Motor Speedway. It depends on the Patrick mahomes Is

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<v Speaker 1>and Deshaun Watson's demanding change in a viral video. It

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<v Speaker 1>rests on the Bryce Halls, that Chase Young's, the Saying Bassies,

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<v Speaker 1>the Tremaine Anchrums and Jeff Okudas, the Leviscus Chelts and

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<v Speaker 1>the Keyshawn Vaughans and the Mackay Beckton's. Because we look

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<v Speaker 1>to our athletes as role models and we listen to

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<v Speaker 1>their voices in the media, sports can bring us together

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<v Speaker 1>and help pave the way forward and can inspire young

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<v Speaker 1>people all over the country to stand up, speak up,

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<v Speaker 1>and speak out, refusing to remain on the sidelines. We're

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<v Speaker 1>at a time where our country and our world is

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<v Speaker 1>really getting shaken. And when that happens a lot of times,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I relate this to my own life, and

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<v Speaker 1>when storms of life come, you really have to rely

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<v Speaker 1>on your foundation, and that's what you've what's inside you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe America is a strong country. But whenever

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<v Speaker 1>you go through things that shake you at your core

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<v Speaker 1>and shake your foundation and shake everything that you know

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<v Speaker 1>and you believe, it takes something like a crushing before

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<v Speaker 1>we can get to the point of where we can

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<v Speaker 1>grow and and get better. And you know, that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons I feel like I've been put on

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<v Speaker 1>this earth is to help um be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the hope and be a part of a difference being made,

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<v Speaker 1>because I truly believe that, like everybody was born for

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<v Speaker 1>such a time as this, nobody's here on accidents, And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe there's hope. I absolutely believed his whole

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