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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club flowing out of the backfield.

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Speaker 1: Next flumbing down the sidelines, he is hanging with the Boys,

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Speaker 1: presented by wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now

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Speaker 1: your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Thursday,

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Speaker 1: eleven thirty and I can't hear myself in my headphones,

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Speaker 1: There we go, eleven thirty Thursday, Central Time. It is

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Speaker 1: the plaza camera and put it in the war room.

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Speaker 1: So there's a live look at the Dallas Cowboys war

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Speaker 1: Room and there's nobody in there. There's a phone, and

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Speaker 1: there you go. That's the non action war room. And

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Speaker 1: I've got I've got gifts today, fellas. I have gifts

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Speaker 1: to commemorate this this draft that we have. I have

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Speaker 1: draft caps and Chris Beam, I need you to come

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Speaker 1: in here real quick because you know, everyone that participates

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Speaker 1: in this show in person is getting a gift today.

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Speaker 1: And because Jesse Jesse Holly failed to participate, he does

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Speaker 1: not get to part Insipatient Awards. Yeah, Chris, that's yours. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you get Jesse's hat. Look there's Chrispan and Jesse's hat.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. Wow wow, I'm wow, wow wow.

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Speaker 1: How time did you get? I got a large media

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Speaker 1: you might need You might need this one, Nate, because

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Speaker 1: this is this is a double X. You ain't gonna

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jesse. Sorry, sorry for your luck if you'd

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Speaker 1: been here. Wow where are you at today? Jesse? Why

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Speaker 1: are you studio? Just just just like my dad, man,

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Speaker 1: said said, Jesse, you need to continue to give more,

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Speaker 1: and you need to surround yourself with people who are

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Speaker 1: giving people. And then I'm thinking, like, wow, hanging with

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Speaker 1: great giving people like Kurt Daniels, like Nate Newton. So

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Speaker 1: the trauma again, here's the trauma again, happening all over again.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. And then Kurt, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I Kurt, Chris Bean, you don't. You don't help it.

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Speaker 1: You should be like, nah, you know, Jesse's my guy,

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Speaker 1: that's my dude. I love him, you know. But you

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Speaker 1: came in. He was like what what? Thanks man forget

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Speaker 1: Jess god lea, just just just what. I think. I

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Speaker 1: got a good supporting group around me. Hey, I'm I'm giving.

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Speaker 1: I gave everybody a hat except you because you're not here.

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Speaker 1: Where are you? Where are you? Jesse? I am in

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Speaker 1: the Casa um well because I have to quarantine. No,

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Speaker 1: But because I told you guys last week, I was

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Speaker 1: and one of the parents of talking about being a giver, right,

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Speaker 1: three picks were they were all h reaches, that they

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Speaker 1: were taking too high, especially the nine nine picked it. Now,

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Speaker 1: Sean Wright, Um, so where you got did that kind

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Speaker 1: of throw you off a little bit? You know what?

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Speaker 1: I think you got it in your notes when we

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Speaker 1: go to your section that they let Will McClay have

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Speaker 1: a lot to say in this trap because they were

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Speaker 1: the ones that's watching film. You couldn't visit a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys when a lot of putting hands on, So

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Speaker 1: you had to kind of look at the film and

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Speaker 1: determine what these coaches like. They're like long players, they

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Speaker 1: like players that are supposed to be having some intelligence

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Speaker 1: to them. So I'm liking it. I'm gonna trusting Will

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Speaker 1: mcclin's I see different. But we don't have two or

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Speaker 1: three years. We have a year or two two or

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Speaker 1: three years. If it's two or three years, we're back

441
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Speaker 1: in the same boat. We need guys that can play.

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Speaker 1: These guys have to come in and play, and I

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Speaker 1: think they drafted guys that can come in. I think

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Speaker 1: Coach Quinn knows what they want. We have to help

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Speaker 1: help the offense. And we cannot every year be what

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Speaker 1: is it nine and nine and whatever the wreck going

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Speaker 1: to be, you know, because it's an extra game now,

448
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Speaker 1: So nine and eight we can't beat that every year

449
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: and saying were almost there, We're almost there, and we

450
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Speaker 1: never addressed the black hole that sits on the side

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Speaker 1: of our defense. We gotta address it. They addressed it,

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Speaker 1: you know. I think we might really see just how

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Speaker 1: good or hopefully not bad. Will McLeay and his staff

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Speaker 1: are at this because, like he said, you know, in

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Speaker 1: the past, because of all the restrictions, they didn't have

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Speaker 1: a combine, they didn't have the protas they could go to,

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Speaker 1: they couldn't scout as much. But that leads to it,

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Speaker 1: you know a lot of what word he used was

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Speaker 1: a group think, where you have all these scouts going

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Speaker 1: to one place and then they all go to the other,

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Speaker 1: and then they all go to the other and they're

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Speaker 1: talking the whole time, and so they kind of form

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Speaker 1: almost a combined opinion on players. They talk each other

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Speaker 1: into yeah, yeah, oh yeah, this guy's good, this guy well.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't do that this year. McClay and his staff

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Speaker 1: had to rely on their own people. They had to

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Speaker 1: watch film, they couldn't go out as much. So it'll

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see if this may really show what

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Speaker 1: great evaluators. Yeah, they have a year. Here's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Here's gonna be the biggest thing that the Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: lacked for a very long time. It's not the Will

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Speaker 1: McClay factor. Yes, you want Will McClay to bring in

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Speaker 1: the guys. The biggest thing that the Cowboys have lacked

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Speaker 1: in and we see it happened in other places development.

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Speaker 1: Can these coaches get the most out of the players?

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Speaker 1: Can they squeeze out all of the juice out of

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Speaker 1: these players? This football club has lacked a consistent level

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Speaker 1: of development of his players. Yeah, when you get guys

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Speaker 1: like a Murray Cooper, when you get guys in the

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Speaker 1: first round, when you get when you get those level guys,

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Speaker 1: those guys are supposed to be NFL ready in the

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Speaker 1: sense of they don't need much development to get what

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Speaker 1: they have to get. It's when you get guys in

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Speaker 1: that third round, fourth round, fifth round. How can you

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Speaker 1: develop them? This team, this franchise, this organization has been

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Speaker 1: pissed poor and prior years of getting whether it be

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Speaker 1: draft picks or unsigned guys or whoever, it is the

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Speaker 1: ability to develop players, to have a stable of players

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Speaker 1: that can go out there and play. We've always been

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Speaker 1: super top heavy. We've always had all of the bells

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Speaker 1: and whistles on the outside, but our engine and our

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Speaker 1: core has been weak. And that is the biggest thing

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Speaker 1: for me when it comes to getting all of these players.

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Speaker 1: Can Dan Quinn, can Mike McCarthy, Can this group as

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Speaker 1: a whole? How can you develop them? How can you

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Speaker 1: get them ready to go and play right now, Bradley

497
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Speaker 1: and I who was drafted last year, should be ready

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Speaker 1: to go. Nevill Gallimore should be ready to go. Tristan Hill,

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Speaker 1: my god, you gotta be ready to go. Young fella

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Speaker 1: like you gotta be able to get some of these

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Speaker 1: guys that you've brought into your system developed and ready

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Speaker 1: to know, you gotta get them on the field. So now,

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Speaker 1: as you're growing these other young draft picks, right as

504
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Speaker 1: you're growing the Parsons, as you're growing the Jabril Cox

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Speaker 1: in the world, as you're growing the Nashans and those

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Speaker 1: other players, you're saying, as you guys are developing, I

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Speaker 1: got these other group of guys that I know can

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Speaker 1: go out here and give me some stuff. That's been

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Speaker 1: the problem. We've been so top heavy, Like, oh man,

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Speaker 1: if if Sean Lee goes down, it's a roup. We

511
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Speaker 1: can't function. If Jayla Smith can't play, we can't function.

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Speaker 1: If so So us out, we can't function because we've

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Speaker 1: been so top heavy. And you see it across the

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Speaker 1: league the level of development that happens in good football

515
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Speaker 1: programs that if guy a guy or two may go down,

516
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Speaker 1: they plug the next guy in. I'm not saying the

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Speaker 1: next guy has to be a pro bowler at all,

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Speaker 1: pro Hall of Famer. What they they're able to plug

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Speaker 1: those gaps and allow those guys to be placeholders to

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Speaker 1: set player gets back into the fold. The Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: lacked ability to develop players for a very long time,

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Speaker 1: and that's going to be key, dan Quinn. You want

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Speaker 1: the long arms and the big guys, you got them.

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Speaker 1: You got them, You got all of them. All the

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Speaker 1: guys that you got drafted up front, got long arms,

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Speaker 1: got what you what you want size ability. Can you

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Speaker 1: develop guys that are going to be giving you layers

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Speaker 1: and levels to your defense. If you can't, we'll find

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Speaker 1: ourself in the same place if you've been find ourself.

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Speaker 1: Every single year, one guy goes down, one guy's not

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Speaker 1: performing well, the rest of the rest of the rest

532
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Speaker 1: of the car won't work. You gotta be able to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: here's the next guy in line, here's the placeholder, here's

534
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Speaker 1: guys that we have. Here's our rotation of quality players

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Speaker 1: that we can put out there on defense to help

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Speaker 1: this football team out. Fellas, this is a monumental moment

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Speaker 1: in the history of the show. Okay for them, come

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Speaker 1: on the first time. Come on, come on, over a year,

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Speaker 1: let's go, we have a caller. Let's get the phone

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Speaker 1: rang so much coming, but it's coming to agree with me?

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Speaker 1: No coming, Yeah, because I was gonna blow it up,

542
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Speaker 1: but I knew we had a call, so I was

543
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Speaker 1: gonna blow up what you said, Jess, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: let it go. Oh, let's blow it up. After the

545
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Speaker 1: call for the first time in the year. We're gonna

546
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Speaker 1: go to the phone. Chris said. The phone was ringing

547
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Speaker 1: off the hook and he really just a somebody, so

548
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: we stopped ringing. It's Josh and Maryland. Josh, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show, and congratulations on being the first caller in

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Speaker 1: over a year. How I like it? I like Star

551
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Speaker 1: was playing. I had the call that I had that

552
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: was really blowing up the line, man, because I just

553
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Speaker 1: wanted to tell y'all I appreciate the show and all

554
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: that good stuff. I don't roll with y'all throughout the

555
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: whole pandemicicity to be an FPN show for real, for real.

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Speaker 1: Now I've watched that up. It was kind of damn. Man,

557
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Speaker 1: that was damn And I'm like, I'm hype about this, friends,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand we gotta let me layers to come

559
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: get competition to the defense, and that's the thing that

560
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: we was missing. You got all the top heavy players.

561
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Speaker 1: They already start things on the Super Bowl. I liked

562
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Speaker 1: this draft. I mean from the first pick to the

563
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Speaker 1: last pick. I think that they kept saying we got

564
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Speaker 1: hot floor. Guys hot floor. Got so many guys twenty

565
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: twenty one years old. How know they ain't gonna get back.

566
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Speaker 1: You know. I think it's your two much three judge.

567
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Speaker 1: I think we should have these guys at because I'll

568
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Speaker 1: tell you about them. Talk now they cut. It's gonna

569
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Speaker 1: be a deafer season. So I just wanted to come

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Speaker 1: in and say that and appreciate jobs. Yeah, man, that's great.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your listening to it. I love that you came

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Speaker 1: with that fire man help. You showed up. They got

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Speaker 1: Jesse going in the right direction. Jesse hearing. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you Jesse can't hear me. That's great,

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Speaker 1: that's great, Josh, Josh got it going on. So Nate

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Speaker 1: blow Jesse up. The thing is you can't. You can't.

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Speaker 1: I love you. You can't develop what you don't play

578
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Speaker 1: when you have coaches deciding on this player, that player,

579
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Speaker 1: this player, and all of a sudden, you get here,

580
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Speaker 1: Oh this guy can't play. Oh wow, this guy can't

581
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Speaker 1: learn the defense. Whoa, We can't do this with this guy.

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Speaker 1: You don't drop Jesse. You know the rule on defensive players,

583
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Speaker 1: anybody that's a full frowned pig and hire your own defense.

584
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Speaker 1: You have to play unless your defense is a first

585
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Speaker 1: top rated defense. We don't have a top rated defense.

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Speaker 1: These guys will learn, they will be developed. Quinn has

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Speaker 1: his hands all over this. Uh. Will McClay has his

588
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Speaker 1: hands all over these guys have to play. Okay, let

589
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Speaker 1: me ask you. You got all right? Well, Nate, you

590
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Speaker 1: just made my point. You just made my point. You

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Speaker 1: thank you for thinking you're blowing me up. But I'm

592
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Speaker 1: not blowing you up to the other guy blew you up.

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Speaker 1: I'm just you made the you made you made the

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Speaker 1: very critical point. But you just said development is a

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Speaker 1: part of that that we haven't done that in the past,

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Speaker 1: not just last year with with that coaching staff, and

597
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: the year before that and the year before that. So

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Speaker 1: playing these guys, finding a role for him, developing them.

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Speaker 1: You can't keep these guys on the sideline and just

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna just happen all of a sudden. They're

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Speaker 1: just going just by ostmosis. These guys are gonna turn

602
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Speaker 1: into players. No, you have to put together a plan

603
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Speaker 1: on how to get them to become a player. The

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Speaker 1: problem that we had before, we had this level of

605
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Speaker 1: entitlement and guys would just show up and saying, well,

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Speaker 1: I was the start of last week, I'm the start

607
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Speaker 1: of this week, and no coaches challenge them and bade

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Speaker 1: them have to earn their spot. I think that is

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Speaker 1: changing with what dan Quinn has drafted this year and

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Speaker 1: his philosophy. He wants guys to go out there and compete.

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Speaker 1: He comes from a place where guys had to go

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Speaker 1: out there and compete under Pete Carroll in Seattle. So

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Speaker 1: to your point to helping make my point is it's

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Speaker 1: now time to develop these guys. Play them, find places

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Speaker 1: for them to play, fine roles for them to go

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Speaker 1: and and and allow their games to flourish as you're

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Speaker 1: building them. So they thank you for for So how

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Speaker 1: are they gonna? Okay, they have five linebackers. Now you

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Speaker 1: got the two rookies and Parsons, and in uh Cox

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Speaker 1: you've got obviously Jayon Smith, Layton vanderih and they've signed

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Speaker 1: Can O'Neill, who's supposed to play linebacker. Seventy percent of

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Speaker 1: the time, they're two linebackers on the field. How are

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Speaker 1: you gonna develop? How are you gonna balance the development

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Speaker 1: of the young guys with baby? What about? I mean,

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Speaker 1: how are you gonna David David Hellman. David Hellman had

626
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Speaker 1: had an amazing tweet. It was from the movie Uh Batman,

627
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Speaker 1: and he had the joker where he said, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have tryouts and he took the pool stick and he

629
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Speaker 1: broke the pool stick, and he had two sides of

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Speaker 1: the bank, and he said, whoever whoever comes out of

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Speaker 1: who whoever comes out of this room, that's who's on

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Speaker 1: the team. Yes, that's how you do it. You go

633
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Speaker 1: out there and you let God you got guys go

634
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Speaker 1: out there and compete. Ain't nobody, nobody's a starter. We're

635
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Speaker 1: gonna split these reps. Guys are gonna play, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give a fair shot to each one of these guys. Now,

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Speaker 1: part of development is on the players side of it

638
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Speaker 1: is you gotta go and study, you gotta go and learn,

639
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: you gotta go and prepare yourself so that when you

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Speaker 1: get your opportunity on the field in practice, in OTAs,

641
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Speaker 1: in mini camps, in training camp, that you show improve

642
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Speaker 1: But the days of we're just gonna march this on

643
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: this first group out and they're gonna have Oh, I

644
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: think we lost Jesse. You know what, Let's hang on.

645
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Speaker 1: We we gotta do something real quick, Kurt, because we

646
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Speaker 1: have a long Chris started something. He answered the phone

647
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: and now the phone won't stop ringing. Hold on, Chris

648
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Speaker 1: makes we have good calls now. Yeah, but we got

649
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Speaker 1: a special call that we have to take because it's

650
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: gonna be really expensive if we keep him on hold

651
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Speaker 1: any longer. It's our old buddy Philip from France. Philip,

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Speaker 1: how are you? I'm fine, and it's a great pleasure

653
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: and it's great to talk to you again. You know,

654
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: I missed a lot all of you talking with with you.

655
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Speaker 1: Just one thing for Jessy. I love your T shirt Jessy,

656
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Speaker 1: and I remember that picture from the game in San Francisco. Great.

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Speaker 1: I love it. So my question is essentially for the

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Speaker 1: future of fame famer Nick Newton, I like to know

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Speaker 1: what what are your thoughts on the big guys they

660
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Speaker 1: select the couple we selected during the draft playing on

661
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Speaker 1: offense and defense. Thanks for taking Michael, take care, be safe,

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00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: Bye bye, Thanks Phillips. Let me let me say this.

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Speaker 1: I watched a couple of highlights. You know, you know

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Speaker 1: the highlights. Okay, highlights. The guys can run. These big

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Speaker 1: guys could move from tackle the tackle. And that's what

666
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Speaker 1: I look at. How quick can you get from tackle

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Speaker 1: the tackle? Can you stop to run? And these guys

668
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Speaker 1: from who they was playing against, they was able to

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Speaker 1: the highlights stopped to run. I'm excited about that. And

670
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: as Jesse was saying, it's gonna come down to this,

671
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: and y'all seen a movie Batman, right, whether Joker broke

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Speaker 1: the stickies down, you just threw it on the ground.

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Speaker 1: They had to get up there and kill somebody to

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Speaker 1: get up out of there to be on the team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who do you get thinks gets like the I don't know.

676
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Speaker 1: I say benefit of the doubt or who who has

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Speaker 1: the favored is let me say the high price second

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Speaker 1: round pick from a few years ago or the number

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Speaker 1: one pick from a couple of years ago. Is it

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Speaker 1: this year's number one pick? If you have a rookie

681
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Speaker 1: that's doing the same thing a veteran doing, and your

682
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Speaker 1: only fears that he gonna make a mistake. What played

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Speaker 1: a rookie? See, I remember several years ago Jimmy had

684
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Speaker 1: to make a say, I can't think of a guy.

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Speaker 1: It was a great scenario. Jimmy told one of the

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Speaker 1: defensive back coaches, hold on, this rookie can do the

687
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Speaker 1: same thing this dude doing. Who've been there for six

688
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Speaker 1: years and all in this rookie upside is greater, and

689
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Speaker 1: all we're gonna worry about him making a mistake in

690
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: the game. Were better than that. We're gonna play the rookie.

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Speaker 1: You you don't give a veteran he has to be

692
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Speaker 1: head and shoulders better than this rookie. And when we

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Speaker 1: lost a friend of the show and Antoine was, but

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Speaker 1: I love Antoine was, and my my thing to anton

695
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: was right now, Antoine, you are a run stopping machine.

696
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Speaker 1: You lost that over the years, over these few years,

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Speaker 1: you lost your ability and your mindset of what got

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Speaker 1: you here. Guess what now you're on the street, don't

699
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Speaker 1: lose sight of who you are and what you are.

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Speaker 1: And if you're a veteran and you're not doing what

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Speaker 1: you were brought here to doing it. Doing it at

702
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Speaker 1: a high level, you become a casualty. And so if

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Speaker 1: Jalen is not making plays just typical three yards of

704
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Speaker 1: less plays for tackles, why not play the other guy?

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Speaker 1: Why not? Why not give Parsons all the reps. It's

706
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Speaker 1: not a hard thing to figure out. It's not a

707
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Speaker 1: hard because you got a super offense over here, and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna keep keep playing these veteran guys. That's giving

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Speaker 1: up eight hundred yards a game, four hundred touchdowns a year,

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Speaker 1: and not that the young guys play. No, it don't

711
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Speaker 1: work that way, man, It don't work that way. Before

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Speaker 1: we go to our last break, Jesse Philip brought up

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Speaker 1: your shirt and he said it was a great shirt.

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Speaker 1: And you have a picture of you on yourself. Explain please, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what is the photo the coach? This is the photo

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Speaker 1: from San fran where Tony giving me his Chipotle order.

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Speaker 1: Uh right, man, he's giving me the Chipotle order right

718
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Speaker 1: before we go out for that final drive and winning

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Speaker 1: that game in overtime in San Francisco. Tony's a very

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Speaker 1: he's a stickler about you know, his his burrito bowl.

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Speaker 1: So listen, man's how I want what was he telling

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Speaker 1: if you forget that, if you forget, if you forget

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Speaker 1: the guawk, it's over for you, telling you if you

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Speaker 1: get the guas, pack your bags. So for I honestly

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Speaker 1: don't know because I kept over talking him like I

726
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Speaker 1: normally do everyone else. He was saying something and I

727
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Speaker 1: just kept telling him, Tony, I'm ready, I'm ready. I'm ready. Tone,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready. Tone. You can just see my

729
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Speaker 1: head shake and I'm like, I'm ready. Whatever he was saying,

730
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Speaker 1: I'm ready, let's go. I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: So I made sure I got the guak on the

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Speaker 1: side like he likes it. Uh, and uh, you know

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Speaker 1: he was happily. He was happy. All right, let's take

734
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: our last break. When we come back, it's corner saw

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Speaker 1: Are you? Have you been over to Cowboys Fit since

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796
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Speaker 1: the outlier there. I don't think you're the bat not

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Speaker 1: that old compared to those people in there. I am

799
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Speaker 1: you're old, but you're not that old. All right, Kurt, Kurt, oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, yeah, just man, we're losing all of

801
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: our social media allies on the team. We lost, you know,

802
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford earlier in the year to retirement. We we

803
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: just lost Antoine Woods. Don't know what's going on with

804
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Speaker 1: Joe Looney, Like, I gotta go make some new relationships.

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Speaker 1: I gotta get some some guys easy. All these new

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Speaker 1: kids coming in. Oh yeah, these young guys love social

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Speaker 1: media and they it's the older guys. It's like, dude, relies,

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Speaker 1: get away from me. These young guys they can't wait

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Speaker 1: to do a TikTok or video or something. So you do, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: get out Stanford. But stuff is he get out of Stanford? Jesse?

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Speaker 1: You on TikTok? No? No, okay, still just Twitter? Unto man,

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Speaker 1: what'd you say, Kurt? Just Twitter? You didn't lose much

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Speaker 1: when Sean Lee retired there Sean was not very active

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Speaker 1: on social media. He had an Instagram account that he

815
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Speaker 1: actually started posting on his Instagram account. But uh, you

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Speaker 1: know over there, just what's you call it for? You guys? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he did hast the phone he did us Kurt, this

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Speaker 1: is this time he'll every time he'll just let you

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Speaker 1: take off. I know, and I did not give him

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Speaker 1: like three minutes. Yeah, you have to actually have ten

821
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Speaker 1: whole minutes. Go, Kurt Amy Porter, let's go. I got

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Speaker 1: I got two questions they want to run by you.

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Speaker 1: One of them should be a pretty quick the other

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Speaker 1: one might take a little more time, but the first one. Then.

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Speaker 1: Will McClay had said in one of his post draft

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to find the exact quote here. He said

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Speaker 1: that the game, now, as I learned from the coaches,

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Speaker 1: all about space. That's why they chose you know, tall guys,

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Speaker 1: guys with long arms. Can you guys kind of break down?

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Speaker 1: What is he talking about by space? How is it

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Speaker 1: different now with space? You want to answer that with Jesse?

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Speaker 1: You want me, yes, sir. What he means by space

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Speaker 1: is when you look at what football used to be.

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Speaker 1: Everything used to be played in a box, right tight

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Speaker 1: end to tight end, a lot of twenty two personnel,

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Speaker 1: twelve personnel. Now when you look at it, football is

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Speaker 1: being played with every bit of that. Fifty three in

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Speaker 1: a third, four five wide receivers. Guys are being spread out,

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Speaker 1: concepts of being places where I want to lift a defense.

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Speaker 1: So now I get a match up with space without

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Speaker 1: running back in the linebacker. I want to create all

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Speaker 1: these different space where now I get guys with the

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Speaker 1: ball in their hands in different spaces. So the game

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Speaker 1: has expanded from being just in that little, any bitty

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Speaker 1: box of what it used to be to now they're

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00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: using the entire football field to run plays, for formations,

847
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: for configurations, for play calling, and so now you have

848
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: to have guys if I can't, if I can't put

849
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: a man in every single open space, then I have

850
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: to be able to use my size, guys with long arms,

851
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 1: guys with length, and guys with hype, because those windows

852
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: have now gone from this to this because guys are

853
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: spreading you out and using more of that fifty three

854
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: and the third on the football field. So you got

855
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: to now put players in places that they can cover

856
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: up that space, whether that be with speed, whether that

857
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: be with length, whether that be with hype, so that

858
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: you now can cover those areas where the team offensively

859
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: tries to stretch you in space with space with their

860
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: formations and configurations like you see the league doing now,

861
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: and just make real simple blocks. Don't play no more.

862
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: It's all about the athlete. You see it. In basketball,

863
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: it's all about athletics. If you if you were, they

864
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: will sacrifice a little bit for a better athlete, for

865
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: a tall athlete, like just to say, the closed space

866
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: you know to be able to before you know, I

867
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: had over the center, and I give you just a

868
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: sympathy over the center. I had right a yard to

869
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: his left, yard to his right. Now they run stretch plays.

870
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: Everybody's running some film of a stretch play where they

871
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: hand the ball. They act extra working back. At least

872
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: make your aim and point out to the tackle so

873
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: that stretches is out right there another yard or two.

874
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: So everybody has to have half lean. So when your

875
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: quarterback looking, he'll see a guy in a whole our gap.

876
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: When the running back looking, he'll see a guy in

877
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: the space. As you see and read, is mastered it,

878
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, when when I asked you, he's mastered it.

879
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: If he see an open space, he getting the guy

880
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: that he's like, heye, run the same formation, but we're

881
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna put a guy running the right in

882
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: this open area. So you have to not be a

883
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: block like guys like me on defense were obsolete. Now

884
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: them blocks them blocks ain't hand, ain't holding up no

885
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: more so like the Cowboys took Kelvin Joseph in the

886
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: in the second rounds considered, you know, kind of a job.

887
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's just under six foot, but

888
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, just after him, Um Sante Samuel was taken

889
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: by the Chargers, who's maybe an inch shorter, maybe his

890
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: arms or an inch shorter. I mean, does that really

891
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: make that big a difference when you've got just an inch?

892
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 1: You know, you know, it just depends on how great

893
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 1: an athlete you are. It just depends on how great

894
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: athletes you are. What this coach likes and what McCarthy

895
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: was trying to get to last year was that long

896
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: athletic guy that can play more than one position, that

897
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: can play right over the and then three to four

898
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: where you have your your end right over the tackles,

899
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So he wanted that long

900
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: guy that can fall down over that guard, you know,

901
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: and build and be longer than this guy. You want

902
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: leverage and leverage used to be short. Can I get

903
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: up under you and power drive you out? You know?

904
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: Could I stay with you? The little short, quick guy?

905
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: Now everybody's long, I mean you had the receivers this

906
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: year that didn't have a lot of tall receivers. But

907
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: everybody else is long, athletic, and they want that. Every

908
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: team is seeking that, every defense is seeking that. You know,

909
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: they don't want that old, stubby guy that you can

910
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: throw the ball over these days, you know that. I

911
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: mean like, if Layton was healthy, Layton Vanderesh at six three,

912
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: six four, that's nice bro, I guess. And at the

913
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: corner position, again, it goes back to what they run

914
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: in this defense. They run a lot of cover three,

915
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: a lot of man free. So I want to be

916
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: able to have that guy be able to have the long,

917
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: long arm to jam a guy at the line of scrimmage,

918
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: a guy who when sometimes when you gotta throw, when

919
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: that fair route seems tempting, you know, I got a

920
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: longer guy can get up there and deflect it and

921
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: make that throw a much more difficult throw than the

922
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: smaller cornerback. So I need a guy who can play

923
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: some press, who could play some zones. So it's like

924
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: if I can find those bigger athletic guys and I

925
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: can use them, because the range of these guys makes

926
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 1: that throw so much more difficult. Go back and watch

927
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: Seattle when they were in their prime, of how many

928
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: times you thought the fate route was there, and all

929
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: those guys Brandon Browner, Richard Sherman and guys like that,

930
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: they would just tip it up and you would see

931
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: them just tip it up in the air and hit

932
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: come a linebacker hit them earl timeAs hit them someone

933
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: else being able to come in and make a play.

934
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily that they will knock the ball down.

935
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: They would say, with my length, even though if I

936
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: can't get it, I'm gonna just knock it back up

937
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have two of the guys right into

938
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: the football who are long, athletic, and fast. And that's

939
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: how they created a lot of those turnovers and that

940
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: leasional boom defense. It was using their length in space

941
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 1: deflecting footballs being able to It's like a zone defense,

942
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: like like running the two three when you watch Syracuse

943
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: in college basketball runner two three. All those guys are

944
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: super long and athletic and they're able to cover a

945
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: lot of space with their length, and when you add

946
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: that to the mix of athleticism and speed, now you've

947
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: got something where you can run that defense that dan

948
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: Quinn wants to run. He said, Like I said, I

949
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: equated the basketball like you know short, excuse men, a

950
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: guy like Shannon who can just blow by Jesse, you

951
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: know yourself, you just call me short. I didn't you

952
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: go to lay that ball up? And the next thing,

953
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: you know, Jesse, like I got you. You know, he

954
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: don't battered the ball with because you you may have

955
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: gotten a step on him, but due to his long

956
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 1: arms and its athletic ability. See a lot of times

957
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: Richard shermanan would be beat, but if it was a fade,

958
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: they had enough speed to catch up and enough body

959
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: to get up. So it's it's all about recovery too.

960
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: Then Sean Wright, who everybody was really questioned. A lot

961
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: of people didn't you know they were didn't even have

962
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: them on their board or you know, yeah, it wouldn't

963
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: be drafted. I mean, he's the tallest corner in the

964
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: draft now is so he may be the prototype of

965
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: what we're we're hoping for that you know what. The

966
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: reason I said AA plus because I'm just glad they

967
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: went all defense. But like I said, second part is

968
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: that they got to get on the field. As Jesse said,

969
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: I made I reiterated his point of development, put them

970
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: on the field. Okay, they gotta get on the field.

971
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: If these if we have one of our defensive players

972
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: that is in the top four pigs and and they,

973
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: hey man, such ain't playing like the kid we got

974
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: last year that I can't the outside linebacker, Yeah, no,

975
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: that's him, couldn't even get on the field. Why who

976
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 1: was in front of him that was so much better

977
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: that had like ten or twelve sacks? Oh, we didn't

978
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: have a guy. We didn't have a team in ten

979
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: or twelve zacks? Did we as a team? So? Who

980
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: was this? Who? Who was not to put this guy

981
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: on the field? Yeah, you know that didn't say much

982
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: for the coaches. Yeah. The other question I was gonna ask,

983
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: and maybe we saved this from next week because I

984
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: think it's gonna take more time. Yeah, because we'll have

985
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: a minute now. Yeah, I mean that was gonna be

986
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: you know, they've drafted some guys with some questionable off

987
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: the field issues, and is that going to be a

988
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: big concern that might be a deeper discussion next Yeah,

989
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: let's get in that next. Um. The other one I had, though,

990
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: was one writer said that the really the key to

991
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: this draft, be life. It's a dog life, Jess second chance.

992
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: All right, yes, sir. Do you think one writer said

993
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: he thought that Calvin Joseph, the second round pick, is

994
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: going to be the key to this draft, that he's

995
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: the guy, same interview. Yeah, I mean do you agree

996
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: with that? I mean they've they've taken such chances at

997
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: the four and the second. Yes, he is he is

998
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: the guy. Yeah, he's LSU then he Canny in Kentucky.

999
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: This dude can ball. Now. I don't know what his

1000
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: off the field issues is, but you know what, just

1001
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: get a guy this twice his size and you can

1002
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: knock him out. Every time we get read to do

1003
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: some wrong, boom and taken back to the crib. Then

1004
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: wake up. I got a question before we get out

1005
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: of here for Chris. Chris, do you have sores on

1006
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: your butt? Why is that? Oh? Yeah, yeah, wow you did.

1007
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: I just want I just want to give you some props.

1008
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: Y'all did a hell of a job on the Draft show.

1009
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of the Draft Show. Dude, you

1010
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,479
Speaker 1: sat in that chair for how many hours over three days?

1011
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: Probably thirty plus hours? Gosh yeah, something like that, yall. Thursday,

1012
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: Friday Saturday. Yeah, dude, y'all cast during the day you

1013
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: had footage. Was there was there a guy you didn't

1014
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 1: have footage of that got drafted? No, weans say, it's

1015
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: pretty easy. We I had the deep snappers, the kickers.

1016
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: It was great. Man. Yeah, I'll tell you what if

1017
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: you if you don't watch our draft, I would put

1018
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: our draft coverage up against any of the national guys.

1019
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: They go through every pick. It's not just Cowboys centric

1020
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: like they brought us. Was on it, Dan, Dane was

1021
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: on it. Dane's amazing. Jeff Cavanaugh, you know, Kyle host

1022
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: it very sol like someone someone needs to make. Dane

1023
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: Brugal GM he knows his stuff. Something he knows. Yeah,

1024
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: but it's one thing to pick pick for free it

1025
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: y'all did. Y'all did a hell of a jobt man, congratulations,

1026
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: hell of a hell of a draft show. So so

1027
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: my one question is when you went home to the family,

1028
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: did you just say not tonight, I'm tired. You still

1029
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: played with that big old baby boy yours. Well, by

1030
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: the time I got home, it was so late every night,

1031
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: so they're already sleeping. Did you play did you play

1032
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: Call of Duty at all? Thursday, Friday or Saturday. Did

1033
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: not play call man. You know he was wiped out.

1034
00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: You know what, you should have got that apple on

1035
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: the shoulder saying listen up. That's an Endellas. It's been

1036
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: great Kurt Man, Nate, good scene, Chris, thanks you for

1037
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: the hat. Nice shirt, Chris, thanks for keeping us on

1038
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: the air. I want some quak on the side man

1039
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: side next week, and we got you, baby. We will

1040
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: talk about like a guat guy. We will talk about

1041
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: I got a new trailer pub the DNA of this team.

1042
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: Next Nobody listen anything I say next week. This has

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00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club.