1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm Royal Oaks. Next time, on Too Many Lawyers, we 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: take on a couple of villains to sort out whether 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: bad stuff is also illegal stuff. George Santos want a 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: seat in Congress by lying to voters, but is that 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: a crime? And Kanye West made it clear he hates 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Jews in England, he'd go to jail for that. Here 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: in America, did he commit a hate crime? Listen to 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Too Many Lawyers on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: Kenny Florian, I fucking love him. 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him. 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 4: Let's hear that both tonight. 14 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 5: The job there, Craik bears Hondu. There are a couple 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 5: of absolutely self involved bullshit. 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian. 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 6: Oh, back in your life, Back in your Life. Sunday, 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 6: March twenty, twenty twenty two. My voice sounds terrible today, 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 6: Ken Flow. It is episode three hundred and forty two 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 6: of the Anecan Florian podcast. Sunday, March twenty seventh, one 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 6: forty pm Eastern Time. Ken Flows out in California, We're 22 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 6: not gonna tell you what he's doing obviously, because he's 23 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 6: a close to the best type of guy. But uh, 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 6: PFL Challenger series for you Friday and then Metal Tube 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 6: to California. Is it going to be back out west 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 6: kid or what it is? 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 5: It was a long flight, you know. 28 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 7: I know you've been doing a lot of talking last night, 29 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 7: so let's pace ourselves today. 30 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 5: All right, So a lot to get to Obviously. 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 6: It was a huge UFC fight night in Columbus, Ohio, 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 6: and you know, as an American, we talked about this 33 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 6: a little bit on the program last week, like I 34 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 6: was really hoping the crowd would bring it after what 35 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 6: we saw in London. 36 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 5: And I can't thank the Ohio fight fans enough. 37 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 6: And I just think, big picture, it's a great fight town, 38 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 6: it's a great sports town. Those fans were loud as hell, 39 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 6: even though I could have done without some of the booze. 40 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 6: So I have to acknowledge the Columbus crowd off the top. 41 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 6: But let's get into the main event, man. I mean, 42 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 6: Curtis Blades had a fucking agenda and you could tell 43 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 6: in the fighter meeting and he said, really for three 44 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 6: or four fights now, like y'all got to stop sleeping 45 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 6: on my hands and nobody gives me a modicum of 46 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 6: credit for my boxing. Yeah, he was gonna go in 47 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 6: there and try to win a fight by knockout without 48 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 6: attempting a singular takedown, and fuck if he didn't do it, Ken. 49 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 5: Flump mission accomplished. You know. 50 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 7: Again, I think Curtis Blades is one of the more 51 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 7: difficult guys to bet for or against because there's certain nights. 52 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 5: Like last night, Well, he looks like a world beater. 53 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 7: You know, he's light on his feet, he's accurate, like 54 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 7: there's an educated jab, he's setting up his punches, his angles, 55 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 7: everything was looking really really good. And then there's other 56 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 7: times where you know, maybe he looks like he's not 57 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 7: really connected in the fi. Yeah, he's a little aloo 58 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 7: for you know, maybe a little too stiff. He looked 59 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 7: phenomenal last night, and again, a lot of people consider 60 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 7: his wrestling game as ground and pound the best part 61 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 7: of his game, and I think he's right. I think 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 7: we kind of on his striking skills. If he's able 63 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 7: to put together a night like that, that's gonna give 64 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 7: him way more options and way more pass to victory 65 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 7: because not only was he effective offensively, I'm not sure 66 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 7: he really got hit with many shots, one or two 67 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 7: maybe that I counted, but I thought he looked phenomenal. 68 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 5: It was great when for him. Excited for that guy. 69 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 7: And again the confusion continues for me as to what 70 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 7: Curtis Blades is all about and how he's going to 71 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 7: compete on fight night, But it all connected for him 72 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 7: last night. 73 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 6: And it's also hard because you don't know exactly what 74 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 6: a guy's going through, you know, I think he's going 75 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 6: through some sort of separation. He has moved to Colorado, 76 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 6: which he thinks is obviously a great thing to just 77 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 6: be there year round and training at altitude and all 78 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 6: of that stuff. And just to clarify, he did not 79 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 6: say in the fighter meeting that he wasn't going to 80 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 6: attempt to take down, but I sort of insinuated to 81 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 6: him in the fighter meeting. I said, hey, man, like, 82 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 6: if this is a kickboxing match, I'm not convinced you 83 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 6: don't win this thing going away, With all due respect 84 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 6: to Chris Dock, It's like, shouldn't you be able to beat. 85 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 5: This guy at a kickboxing match? 86 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 6: And he sort of said absolutely, so, he said after 87 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 6: the fact that, yes, the game plan was absolutely to 88 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 6: go in there and not wrestle. And I saw Cody 89 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 6: Donovan at the airport this morning and I was on 90 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 6: the phone but he just screamed, no wrestling, you know. 91 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 6: So they're very happy, obviously with this result. And Curtis 92 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 6: is a really good guy and I think he's responded 93 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 6: well to adversity in the past. There's a Dacas side 94 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 6: of this that we will get to. But ken Fall, 95 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 6: I just can't wrap my head around the fact that 96 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 6: Derek Lewis last December was a betting underdog against Chris Daccas. 97 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 6: Now it doesn't matter if you picked him or somebody 98 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 6: else picked him, that's not the point. R Curtis Blades 99 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 6: closed a north of five to one underdog against Chris Doccas, who, 100 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 6: not all that long ago, was a full time police officer, 101 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 6: you know. And you know, I'm encouraged by Doccas insofar 102 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 6: as I think he can still be relevant in the 103 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 6: top fifteen or so. 104 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 5: But you know, this is an appreciable setback. 105 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 6: And it's just amazing to think that, you know, a 106 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 6: knockout of Shamil up or Ahimob three months later can 107 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 6: make you favored against a guy and Derek Lewis, who's 108 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 6: the most decorated knockout ours in UFC history. 109 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 5: I just think that Dacas got fast tracked a little 110 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 5: bit too soon. 111 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 7: I think you're right on that it's not always clear 112 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 7: because you know, you get certain fights, you get certain wins, 113 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 7: or you have certain losses for that matter, that can 114 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 7: skew the perception of the fighter and what they're capable of. 115 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 7: Right And as you mentioned, there's a lot of personal 116 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 7: problems that happened. There are a lot of injuries that 117 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 7: happened that we don't know about, and we look at 118 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 7: a you know, fighter's performance and we say they're done 119 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 7: or they don't have it, or man, that ten second 120 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 7: knockout is crazy, this is gonna be the new star, 121 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 7: when in reality we still don't know a whole lot 122 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 7: about them. This was one of those fights for me unfortunately, 123 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 7: where for me, I think Chris Doccas was downgraded I 124 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 7: think a little bit because he couldn't find a way 125 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 7: to really be effective. He seemed like he was just 126 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 7: confused as to how to approach someone like Curtis Blades. 127 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 7: And it is a problem because if you do go 128 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 7: aggressively forward. Not only are you susceptible to counter strikes 129 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 7: or running into a jab in Curtis Blades, but also 130 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 7: in moving forward it allows them to hit a reactive takedown, 131 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 7: which Curtis Blades is known for as well. So he 132 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 7: was in a tough spot and I could see it. 133 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 7: He wasn't able to make the proper adjustments and was 134 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 7: getting hit with hard shots before that knockout, and to me, 135 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 7: it showed that he's not at the skill level to 136 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 7: be elite just yet. Doesn't mean he won't be, but 137 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 7: where he's at, I think we found out a lot 138 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 7: about Chris Daccas in this fight. 139 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 6: And for you and Michael Bisping and Daniel Cormier and 140 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 6: Joe Rogan, you guys are paid to be analysts, you're 141 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 6: paid to be critical. And Michael Bisping sometimes will say 142 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 6: I don't mean to be critical when in actuality, we're 143 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 6: not here to make friends. Now, for me, as a 144 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 6: play by play guy, you'll see me at times be critical, 145 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 6: but I try to do it in a soft way 146 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 6: and to that end, like it's hard for me to 147 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 6: criticize the Dawcas brothers, I do think the ceiling is 148 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 6: higher for Kyle, maybe that it is for Chris right now. 149 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 6: But I like all these fighters so much that it's 150 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 6: hard for me to crack a mic here on Sunday 151 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 6: morning and be super critical of Chris Dawcas. But I 152 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 6: do believe at times like his confidence sort of outweighed 153 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 6: his skill set a little bit. I do believe frame wise, 154 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 6: he could be a great light heavyweight. I do think 155 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 6: that he's committed. I don't know if he is as 156 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 6: all in as Kyle is in terms of his obsession 157 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 6: three hundred and sixty five days a year. But do 158 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 6: you think there is anything to Chris dawkas pushing the 159 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 6: reset button on his career right now despite the fact 160 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 6: that these are lots of Julia elite guys, uh, and 161 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 6: maybe try to see if his body can, you know, 162 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 6: get down to two twenty comfortably and go for that John. 163 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 5: I think that's. 164 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 7: Always a possibility, you know, as skill set wise, and 165 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 7: I also think it's a possibility for Chris, not that 166 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 7: you know everything about his weight cutting process, but for 167 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 7: looking from the outside in, I certainly think he can 168 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 7: compete at two hundred and five pounds and do extremely 169 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 7: well in that division as well. 170 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 5: But I do think. 171 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 7: There needs to be a little bit more of a 172 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 7: different approach striking wise and how he integrates and puts 173 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 7: everything together. So yeah, he's gonna have to look into 174 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 7: things and see how he can adjust and see if 175 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 7: that moved to two hundred five pounds makes sense. 176 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 5: Now that might take six months, right, twelve. 177 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 6: Months, and my prediction is that he is not going 178 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 6: to do that. And I think from a matchmaking standpoint, 179 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 6: I'd like to see mcmahonard be a little bit strategic 180 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 6: with Chris Dawkins to try to sort of help build 181 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 6: him back up because the Derek Lewis fight, it was. 182 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 5: Just like whoa man? 183 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: You know? 184 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, and then they gave him a huge opportunity to 185 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 6: sort of right that wrong. And it is what it is. 186 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 6: But obviously this was the best version of Curtis Blades. 187 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 6: I mean, these guys are just raving about the work 188 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 6: that he has been putting in and it certainly paid 189 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 6: dividends as we spin it forward. I can tell you 190 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 6: John Jones training really hard, and I think that there 191 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 6: might be some news on the John Jones front at 192 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 6: some point in time. John Jones and Steve A. Miachich, 193 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 6: to me makes a whole lot of sense for an 194 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 6: interim UFC heavyweight championship. I don't know if sieedle Ghan 195 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 6: is going to get that opportunity immediately, you know, the 196 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 6: former interim champion. I think that Gone Blades fight makes 197 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 6: all the sense in the world. I said it immediately 198 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 6: after Gone thought Francis and Ghano, and then of course 199 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 6: that would leave Tom aspinall and tie to Ivasa. I mean, 200 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 6: heavyweight's intriguing right now. Cam Global, what are your thoughts 201 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 6: on on Curtis Blades and who they might lock that 202 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 6: octagon door with him behind him with next? 203 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I think you said it, Cyril Gone, Curtis Blades, 204 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 7: I think is a fight that makes a lot of sense. Now, 205 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 7: if I'm Curtis Blades, I'm kind of licking my chops here, 206 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 7: given that we saw Gon on his back and he 207 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 7: seemed like he really didn't have the skills to be 208 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 7: effective there. So Curtis Blades I think has the ability 209 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 7: now if he's able to put together a strikes and 210 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 7: move his feet like he was in that fight against 211 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 7: Dacas to be effective on the feet, and absolutely can 212 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 7: be very effective if he's able to put Gon on 213 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 7: his back. I think those are two real strong possibilities. 214 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 7: Curtis Blades looked phenomenal. If this is a sign of 215 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 7: things to come, I love that fight for him. That said, 216 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 7: Gone is also a master when he's at his best 217 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 7: in determining the range that he wants to fight at. 218 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 5: So that's a fight that makes sense. 219 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 7: I don't think Gon should just go right in there 220 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 7: for an interim belt at this stage. I think Jones 221 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 7: and Steve A makes more sense in my mind, based 222 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 7: on their pedigree and what they've accomplished in their career. 223 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 7: They've been around a very long time, and I think 224 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 7: you could absolutely sell a big fight between John Jones 225 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 7: and Steep. 226 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 6: Steve might be bigger in Ohio than you are in Boston. 227 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 6: I say that respectfully. I mean he is huge there. 228 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 6: Like he walked into the arena last night, and you know, 229 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 6: Joe Burrow, the Cincinnati Bengals quarterback, was in the building 230 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 6: last night and by the way, shout out to Joe 231 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 6: Burrow first Freedom. 232 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 5: I mean, he is all about it. 233 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 6: But I was like, who just walked into the arena 234 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 6: and they're like Steep A And I'm like, man, he's 235 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 6: even more popular around these parts than I thought that 236 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 6: dude has the entire state of Ohio eating out of 237 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 6: his hands. So very exciting to see, you know when 238 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 6: I think back to you and me calling his main event, 239 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 6: in nodding him against Steep b. A. Miachich, And now 240 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 6: the dude's like an International Sports Hall of Famer. 241 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 5: It's crazy, so cool. 242 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 6: All right, heavyweight division in a good spot. And you know, 243 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 6: you gotta feel good for Curtis Blades too. I just 244 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 6: have to say, you know, spending a lot of time 245 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 6: around him, and you know, as a professional athlete in 246 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 6: fight sport, when you're charged with entertaining and you have 247 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 6: a speech impediment, not that fucking easy, right, you know, 248 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 6: like you. 249 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 5: Got to crack a mic. 250 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 6: And I thought he did a great job with the 251 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 6: post fight interview, but it's hard, you know, you're constantly 252 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 6: asked for sound bites and your brain and your mouth 253 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 6: just don't want to fire. 254 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 5: You know. I got a lot of respect. 255 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 7: For him, Yeah, absolutely, And it seems like he was 256 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 7: in a much better are placed mentally. 257 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 258 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. 259 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 5: Excited to be there. 260 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 7: It seems like he has a genuine passion for the 261 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 7: sport and he's been fighting for a long time, and 262 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 7: he's experienced a lot of those ups and downs already 263 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 7: throughout his career. And sometimes we see fighters who aren't 264 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 7: able to deal with those ups and downs very well. 265 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 7: You know, volatility can mess with a person's brain a lot. 266 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 7: But for Curtis Blades, I think he believes in the process, 267 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 7: he believes in himself. Seems like he's in a good place, 268 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 7: and that was one of one of his best performances 269 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 7: by far. 270 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 6: And you start producing knockouts like this, people won't mind 271 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 6: seeing you fight Francis in Ghana a third time, even 272 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 6: though you're two against him. I mean, huge, huge weekend 273 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 6: for Curtis Razor Blades. I will circle back to the 274 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 6: Komain Evan, Alexa Grosso and Joanne Wood, but I want 275 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 6: to talk to you about Brian Barberina and Matt Brown. 276 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 5: It goes to Barberina by split decision. 277 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 6: It was the fight of the night, certainly one of 278 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 6: the more memorable fights that I've called over the last 279 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 6: several years. I know you thought Matt Brown won the fight, 280 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 6: as did a good segment of the base, of course, 281 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 6: as did the assembled masses there in Columbus, Ohio. But 282 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 6: what did you make of what was an absolute war 283 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,119 Speaker 6: as we expected it to be between Brown and Barberina. 284 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we talked about it, but it's brilliant 285 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 7: matchmaking for both of those guys where they're at in 286 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 7: their career. 287 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 5: Absolutely amazing fight. We saw a lot. 288 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 7: You know, I'm always fascinated by Matt Brown, a guy 289 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 7: who has been around forever, and those are the kind 290 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 7: of guys that it could be hard to kind of 291 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 7: teach them new tricks. 292 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 5: Now, He's always had, i think, a. 293 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 7: Versatile skill set from that clinch position, but he is 294 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 7: getting better, He's getting more confident in what he's doing, 295 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 7: and I'll put him up there, I'm telling you. With 296 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 7: guys like Anderson Silva, when it comes to being effective 297 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 7: in the TI clinch of combining knee elbow combinations, something 298 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 7: that many fighters do not do well, even at the 299 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 7: highest levels in the UFC, Matt Brown is absolutely elite 300 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,479 Speaker 7: in that regard. His foots, his knees, and his elbows 301 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 7: will always fire because one of those things are you're 302 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 7: gonna be vulnerable to one of those things. Matt Brown 303 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 7: knows how to set that up. You know, if you 304 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 7: posture up and you try to protect yourself from elbows. 305 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 7: You know, he's throwing knees to your body. If you're 306 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 7: trying to protect yourself from knees, he's going upstairs with elbows. 307 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 5: Again. 308 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 7: If you're trying to protect both, he's footsweeping your ass. 309 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 5: It was just amazing. 310 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 7: And Brian Barberina, like Matt Brown, is one of the 311 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 7: toughest individuals I have ever seen compete. Just when you 312 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 7: think he's hurt and you're gonna take him out, he 313 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 7: fires a shot that hurts his opponent. It's just unbelievable, 314 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 7: both of their durability, their heart, the determination, their conditioning. 315 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 5: So I was blown away by the fight. 316 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 7: No one lost that fight, As you know, you hate 317 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 7: to say that, that is absolutely the truth. I thought 318 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 7: it was a brilliant performance from both men. It was 319 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 7: an absolute classic. I'm happy for Matt Brown that he 320 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 7: had to have that. He he got a chance to 321 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 7: have a legendary fight like that again in Ohio and 322 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 7: but I guess we'll get into it. 323 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 5: But I guess that's all I have to say about that. 324 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 7: Brian Barbarina was landing huge shots, Matt Brown was landing 325 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,479 Speaker 7: huge shots. I thought Matt Brown had the better grappling exchanges. 326 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 7: But this was a back and forth affair that I 327 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 7: don't think was so easy to score. But I did 328 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 7: have for Matt Brown, so that's what I have on that. 329 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 7: I guess we can get it. 330 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean it was interesting, Kenny to see the 331 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 6: scorecards because the judge who did score the fight for 332 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 6: Matt Brown gave him the third round. 333 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 5: He didn't give him. This so interesting. I thought it 334 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 5: was interesting. 335 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 6: But Matt Brown thought he had banked a couple rounds 336 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 6: as Mark Coleman did the hammer. Mark Coleman came over 337 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 6: to broadcast booth immediately, and it's hard for us because 338 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 6: you know, we got a lot of stuff going on. 339 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 6: I mean, I thought it was a close fight. I 340 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 6: guess ultimately for me, I did have a two to 341 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 6: one for Barberina. But as I say every week, you 342 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 6: can toss out my scorecard, you know, I guess I 343 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 6: take exception. And I love Matt Brown, but him saying 344 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 6: that he felt like he got robbed, I think it's interesting. 345 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 6: In Columbus, Ohio, you know that there wasn't a little 346 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 6: bit of a lean from a judge to Brown. And 347 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 6: I'm glad there wasn't because you gotta not factor that 348 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 6: stuff in. But yeah, you just mentioned three words that 349 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 6: I wrote down, like heart determination, conditioning. Like I'm sitting 350 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 6: there watching this fight, and I'm thinking, like in my 351 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 6: inner monologue, like you fat fuck can't run a six 352 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 6: mile on the treadmill when these guys are doing this, 353 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 6: you know, like seriously, you know, like if they're men, Kenny, like, 354 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 6: what am I? 355 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: Like? 356 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 6: If they are men as a species, what am I? 357 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 6: Because they're different than I am, They're built different. Maybe 358 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 6: maybe maybe not, but listen, I think that here's the other. 359 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 5: Change for Matt Brown. 360 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 7: Because Matt Brown sometimes and we see it, you know 361 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 7: that you can call it pacing or whatever, but I 362 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 7: think at any level, you know, whether it's uh, you know, 363 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 7: nature right or a fight, we're looking to be as 364 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 7: efficient as possible. That to me is like the ultimate 365 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 7: sign of a beautifully moving machine. 366 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 5: Uh. 367 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 7: Matt Brown, to me seemed like he was the most 368 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 7: efficient he's been in a very very long time. 369 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 5: I agree. 370 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 7: The way he was grappling, he was leaning on uh 371 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 7: you know, barbarina instead of squeezing and like wasting energy 372 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 7: you're freaking out like uh, I thought he showed more techniques, 373 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 7: whereas Barbarina might have been landing like the shots that 374 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 7: he did land were all heavy, they were all effective, 375 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 7: and I think that might have swung the judges the 376 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 7: way of Barberina. And absolutely there's there, There's no doubt 377 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 7: about it. He was landing a lot of effective shots. 378 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 7: But when I'm looking at the full picture, for me, 379 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 7: and again I know this isn't a criteria for judge 380 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 7: for judging a fight, but Matt Brown's overall mixed martial 381 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 7: arts skill, I thought he showed a better display of that. 382 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 7: It wasn't just overhand, right, it was knees, it was elbows, 383 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 7: it was grappling, and some of those some of those 384 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 7: rounds were close striking wise, But I thought Matt Brown's 385 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 7: attempts and his control with the grappling and in his 386 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 7: aggression moving forward was the difference in my mind. I 387 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 7: had the first two rounds from Matt Brown. I thought 388 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 7: the rap Leau exchange just put him over the top. 389 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 7: And the third round I clearly had for Barbarina. So 390 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 7: either way, amazing fight. I was thoroughly entertained and I 391 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 7: was happy for both those men who just continue to 392 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 7: deliver exciting action. 393 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's all fair and you put it well. 394 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 6: And when I hear you set it up like that, 395 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 6: it kind of makes me lean a little bit that 396 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,719 Speaker 6: way when you think about the overall mixed martial arts 397 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 6: skill set that was sort of put on display by 398 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 6: Matt Brown there. I got a couple notes on both 399 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 6: of these guys before we move on. So, Brian Barberina 400 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 6: fought out his contract. He now wants to fight Robbi Lawler. 401 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 6: He says he's going to retire if he doesn't get 402 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 6: a new deal from the UFC. He tried to renegotiate 403 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 6: with the UFC to get a new deal before this fight, 404 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 6: and they kind of went dark on him. So obviously 405 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 6: with a I mean, he'll fight anybody any time. Maybe 406 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 6: not any time, needs a training camp, but he literally 407 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 6: will fight anybody on the roster that you put on 408 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 6: the contract. 409 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 5: You know. 410 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 6: So that's a good guy to have in the welterweight division. 411 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 6: You know, he's gonna entertain. I hope he gets a 412 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 6: new contract. But just in terms of what he's doing 413 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 6: in his life, right, he left Arizona, Right, it's the 414 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 6: bamfam farm in Tennessee, the Barberina family farm, and it's 415 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 6: him and his wife and the three kids are really 416 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 6: leaned upon heavily on the farm. And I don't know 417 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 6: if you heard us say this on the broadcast. I 418 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 6: think we were in commercial right. But if I went 419 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 6: downstairs after this podcast and said to my daughters, hey, guys, 420 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 6: we want to sort of live a more sustainable life, 421 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 6: and you know, whatever it is, I can't put it 422 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 6: well in terms of helping the invit what we're gonna 423 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 6: we're gonna, you know, because farming is like hard shit. 424 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 5: My daughters would be like, where's the dad's store. I 425 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 5: need a new dad. We're not doing any of that, 426 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 5: you know. 427 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 6: And I just have so much respect for Brian and 428 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 6: his wife and the family, you know, and it makes 429 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 6: me think about some of my parenting, right, Like my 430 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 6: daughters would be like, no fucking way, I'm not gonna 431 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 6: dig a ditch. I'm not gonna milk a cow, like 432 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 6: fuck you dad, you know. So I need to harden 433 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 6: up my daughters a little bit. But you know, Barbarina 434 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 6: named one of his son's jail you gotta love him 435 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 6: all right on the Matt brown side, if I may, 436 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 6: Unless you have anything on the Bamfam farm, you no. 437 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 5: I think I think it's amazing. I think it's amazing. 438 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 7: We're actually building gardens now in our backyard, so. 439 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 5: We're we're trying to start early. 440 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 7: I think that's the key is we're having our daughter 441 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 7: kind of you know, water stuff and help around and 442 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 7: then you know it comes like a normal life. But 443 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 7: uh yeah, man, that's crazy farm. There's always work to do. 444 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 7: We oh yeah, yeah. 445 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 6: The Barbarina family literally got in the car from Columbus, 446 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 6: Ohio and drove home to take care of the animals 447 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 6: in Tennessee right after the fight. 448 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 5: Amazing. 449 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, so, uh yeah, my daughters want a dog, they 450 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 6: want a garden. They just don't want to take care 451 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 6: of any of it. And I really hope my store 452 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 6: is closed right now. Getting fucking blasted on the Aedneic 453 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 6: and Flooring podcast, Love you all right. On the Matt 454 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 6: Brown front, he's forty one years of age, and Matt 455 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 6: Brown is very dismissive of age as a factor in 456 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 6: any of this. And you know, I'm forty three years 457 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 6: old and it's harder, you know, I think in terms 458 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 6: of working out and you know, just your body, and 459 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 6: you know, my wrists are even getting bigger, Like I 460 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 6: need to get my watches resize. There are just certain 461 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 6: things that happen as you get older. So here's Matt 462 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 6: Brown of forty one years old. I thought, by and large, 463 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 6: this was a sensational performance. But he wants a new 464 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 6: eight fight deal. You know, he was talking a lot 465 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 6: about a new eight fight deal. He wants to fight 466 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 6: until he's fifty, and really was hoping that a win 467 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 6: last night might have helped him work his way into 468 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 6: the top ten because he still has championship aspirations and 469 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 6: it is amazing what he has accomplished since he was 470 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 6: eleven and ten and on the back end of three 471 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 6: straight losses in the UFC at twenty ten we were 472 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 6: filming MMA Live. We thought he got cut. You know, 473 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 6: he was eleven and ten. Yeah right, Sorry about that 474 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 6: erroneous porting back in the day. Hope you'll forgive us. 475 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 6: But I just think that it's not that there's delusion. 476 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 6: You know, far be it for me to put anything 477 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 6: past Matt Brown. But you can't just outlast the clock forever. 478 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 6: And you know, the wars I don't think are going 479 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 6: to help him fight. 480 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 5: Until he's fifty. But I guess we'll see. Yeah, No, 481 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 5: it's really doesn't help Matt Brown's amazing. You know, the. 482 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 7: How he was able to turn things around at that 483 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 7: point in his career is something that really should be commended, 484 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 7: and it's something that's very rare in the fight game 485 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 7: in general, no matter if boxing, MMA, kickboxing, and that 486 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 7: takes an insane amount of mental fortitude. He certainly has that, 487 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 7: and I think believing in your age has certainly has 488 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 7: something to do with it. But the reality is is 489 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 7: are you know how you feel and what your body 490 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 7: has gone through will have an effect on you. I 491 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 7: hope that for Matt Brown's sake that you know, he 492 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 7: doing a great job of securing his money and putting 493 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 7: that away. I know he's in a bitcoin which is 494 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 7: freaking awesome. But yeah, we can't fight forever, right, we 495 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 7: just can't physically. But you know, I know Matt's kind 496 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 7: of a quiet guy. But I think there's other opportunities 497 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 7: for him in the mixed martial arts game. I think 498 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 7: especially as a coach, you know, I mean that dude 499 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 7: has an insane amount of experience and obviously knows what 500 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 7: the hell he's doing as a fighter in a lot 501 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 7: of aspects that I think he could help a lot 502 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 7: of fighters out there as well, and I think his 503 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 7: story would be amazing as far as a book. 504 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 5: You look at his personal Oh yeah, he's at now. 505 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 7: But anyways, I love watching him fight, man, but I agree, 506 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 7: you can't fight forever. I would hate for him to 507 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 7: get injured to the point where now he he's. 508 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 5: Forced to retire. 509 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 7: You know, it's always good, I think when you see 510 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 7: a fighter kind of go into his retirement on his terms. 511 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 5: Right, it's tough. 512 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 6: I mean, he's got a coffee company, he has his 513 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 6: Immortal Martial Arts Center, but he's just so obsessed with 514 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 6: martial arts and training. 515 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 5: Hardest working room. 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I tried 564 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 4: to get him to He wants nothing to do with you. 565 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 4: I don't know why. Why that is? 566 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 5: I join in Columbus, Ohio about eight hours ago. 567 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. You're You're amazing. That's not easy, right, I. 568 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 5: Mean you just know I'm I'm hurting. 569 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 6: And we were burning it deep into the night, drinking 570 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 6: Jamison there in Columbus, Ohio. 571 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 4: So you even worse. You were drinking and your flight 572 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 4: got delayed and. 573 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 5: Oh it did some candlepin bowling actually in Columbus, Ohio. 574 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 5: Can't flow. Reminded me of a spare way bowling on 575 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 5: route birthday party there. 576 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, probably lost on our fan base. Rate's 577 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 6: good to see you, man, Houston, Texas. 578 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 4: Huh yeah, yeah, yeah, we got Nauseem Saudi cuff to 579 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 4: night in the co main event UFC Fight Pass. Let's 580 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 4: fucking get behind his kid. He's gonna have a great 581 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 4: night tonight and he looks great, so expect to see 582 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 4: a lot of him. 583 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 5: And he's managed by Danny Rube. Is that correct? 584 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, yeah? 585 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 5: Did you get a haircut or did you just look 586 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 5: particularly good today? 587 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 4: No? I got a haircut, But thanks for noticing, John, 588 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 4: I appreciate that I combed it. 589 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 5: I'm pretty obsessed with men's hair if people haven't. 590 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 4: But you know, I heard you talk about Matt Brown. Man, 591 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 4: I mean, at forty one to fight that type of 592 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 4: fight is absolutely insane. But man, what a I mean 593 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 4: if there was ever a time for a goddamn home 594 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 4: field advantage or what that was? It? I would have 595 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 4: had no problem with that. No. 596 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 5: I was just saying. 597 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 6: I was saying, like I thought, this is going to 598 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 6: be the situation if you're a judge, where you're like, 599 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 6: you know what. But the problem is the third round 600 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 6: clearly wasn't his. You know, yeah, the so anyway, Ray, 601 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 6: how did you score that fight? 602 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 5: Did you see? 603 00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 9: Well? 604 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 4: I had listen, I just went through this, you know, 605 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 4: we were just talking about it. You know, there's certain 606 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 4: fights when you want somebody to win, you just start 607 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 4: looking at every hang. That's that's the problem. And I 608 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 4: feel like that's why I could never be a judge, 609 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 4: because I couldn't be fair. You know, I'm always gonna 610 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 4: lean towards the guy and then you start coming up 611 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 4: with shit. So I thought for him being in Ohio, 612 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 4: the way he fought, right, I go, I'm giving I 613 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 4: don't give his ship. I'm giving that fight to him, 614 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 615 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 6: Judges, the judge who scored it for Brown, I think 616 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 6: adopted that philosophy because he had it. 617 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 5: One one through two. 618 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, he gave Brown the third round because he's probably 619 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 6: like fuck it, man. 620 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah that's it. 621 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 4: Man. If there's any time, let's get the crowd going crazy. Yeah, 622 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 4: you know, but uh, Barbarina did a great job and 623 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 4: he finished really strong, and I think that was a 624 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 4: huge part of what you saw. The last part of 625 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 4: what you saw was an exhausted Matt Brown but still pushing. 626 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: Man. 627 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just a great story with Coleman screaming 628 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 4: his lungs out in the corner. I mean, it was, 629 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 4: it was. It was great, man, it was great. So 630 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 4: if there's ever a time for that, I'm one hundred 631 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 4: percent behind it. I go, that was the time. 632 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 6: I don't know how much you heard of what we 633 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 6: were saying, but the ability to push through the wall. 634 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 6: For Matt Brown, obviously he can lean on the conditioning, 635 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 6: but for me, it's the guy who works out six 636 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 6: or seven, seven days a week, Like I can't. I 637 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 6: wish like this would inspire me to be better, Like 638 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 6: I just can't relate to just the mental and physical toughness. 639 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 6: I was truly in awe watching Matt Brown in particular, 640 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 6: like how he just pushed through every fucking wall. 641 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 4: Yeah no, now, really really impressive and uh yeah no 642 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 4: it was. 643 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 9: Uh. 644 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 4: I don't think it gets any more entertaining than that fight. 645 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 4: And I just I'm blown away by his age. I'm 646 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 4: putting everything into the you know, into the conversation. It's 647 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 4: just a forty one to get into a wall like 648 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 4: that is nuts, you know what I mean. It's not 649 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 4: like you could relax on the wrestling maybe still or 650 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 4: like Henderson had that one bomb. If he hit anybody 651 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 4: was going down. So he was always in the fight 652 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 4: no matter what. But this was a grueling, taxing fight 653 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 4: against a younger guy and you know who's very durable. 654 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 4: So it was I thought it was the fans got 655 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 4: what they wanted. I hope, I hope they take care 656 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 4: of him. I really do. He deserves it. 657 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 5: I agree. 658 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 6: So we were talking about Curtis Blades off the top 659 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 6: of the show, and in our fighter meeting, I said 660 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 6: to him, like, if this is a kickboxing match, how 661 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 6: do you handicap it. I didn't know at that time 662 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 6: that he wasn't going to attempt a singular takedown, but 663 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 6: kind of thought, if this was just a striking match 664 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 6: up under the glory kickboxing banner, that Curtis Blades beats 665 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 6: Chris Daccas in that setting. What were your thoughts on 666 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 6: Blades's approach and the fact that he didn't attempt a 667 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 6: single takedown and still got the biggest knockout of his career. 668 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 4: Well, I think, you know, it was funny because we 669 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 4: I think everybody probably thought he was going to get 670 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 4: that fight to the floor. He makes he makes it 671 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 4: pretty clear that that's what he wants to do, and 672 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 4: he doesn't care what anybody thinks. Right, But I think 673 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 4: as Corner probably told him in between, let's go in 674 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 4: to the guy, you know, like, let's let's do it. 675 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 4: And I think that's probably what he did. Very a 676 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 4: lot of respect on both ends, right. I think you 677 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 4: got to give the first round of Dorcas just on 678 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: inactivity of Blades maybe, but he came out and he 679 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 4: made sure that wasn't gonna happen. I think, uh, you know, 680 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 4: as much as I was pulling for Dorcas because he's 681 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 4: an East Coast guy, it was a great win for 682 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 4: Blades coming off, you know, a knockout laws to the 683 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 4: other guy. So that's why I say, in the first round, 684 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, man, is he apprehensive because of what happened 685 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 4: to him the last fight, or does he really respect 686 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 4: you know, Dorcas is striking, so maybe a combination. 687 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 5: Of aucas won the first round. 688 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 4: Well, there was what happened in the first round? It 689 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 4: was nothing. 690 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 6: No, I think Curtis like bloodied up tacas. If I'm 691 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 6: not mistaken. I think it was. 692 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 4: One one, one one punch. I think he hit them. 693 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't a ton of volume, but yeah, yeah, 694 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 5: it was. 695 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 4: Definitely not a vibe. I don't know who, I don't 696 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 4: know who to give it, but I'm just saying it was. 697 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 4: It was very inactive. 698 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 6: So I just wanted to get your thoughts on Chris 699 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 6: Doccas real quick before we move on. Right, goes from 700 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 6: four and oh as a UFC heavyweight and then favored 701 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 6: against Derek Lewis last December to now four and two 702 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 6: and on the back end of two just vicious knockout losses. 703 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 6: So you're Chris Doccas's head coach, Will Martinez, are you 704 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 6: pushing the reset button trying to see if physically he 705 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 6: can get himself down to light heavyweight? 706 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 5: Like? What are you doing with Chris Doccas right now? 707 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 6: Because he left his career as a police officer, went 708 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 6: all in on MMA, and now all of a sudden, 709 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 6: just four months after being undefeated in the UFC. You 710 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 6: can argue he's in a must win situations next time. 711 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, he's a he's in a really tough spot 712 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 4: right now. It's funny. I was on the bus with him. 713 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 4: I forget where the hell we were, but I was like, 714 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 4: you know, we were talking about being a police officer 715 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 4: in Philly, and you know they were you know, what 716 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 4: was going on, and you know they were all the 717 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 4: changes and you know, to fund the police type of crap. 718 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 4: And I was like, man, never lose that job, because 719 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 4: I know on Long Island it's a it's a home run. 720 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 4: I mean, the benefits are crazy, the pension is crazy, 721 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 4: the money is craized. So I was like, man, if 722 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 4: you could both, it's like it's like found money, Like 723 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 4: you know that you don't, you know, when you don't 724 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 4: have to make money, it's easy to make money, right. 725 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 4: So he I don't even think. I think he quit. 726 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 4: Like a month after I talk to him, I go, 727 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 4: I guess that conversation, I say, the guys, yeah, I 728 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 4: three A month later, he just retired. Yeah. I was like, 729 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 4: hotly cry, I guess I'm good at what I do 730 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 4: because he didn't listen to me. But I always like 731 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,239 Speaker 4: those jobs, like you know, the teachers and stuff like that, 732 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 4: they get set up. I think in the long run, 733 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 4: they end up better than a lot of other people 734 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 4: that don't have uh you know, even an entrepreneur who's 735 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 4: making money but doesn't invest it right or whatever something 736 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 4: like that. These guys are steady, Eddy, and after twenty 737 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 4: five years, twenty years, there's this set man. They got 738 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 4: a nice income coming in and I thought that's the 739 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 4: way to go for him. I thought, you know, he's 740 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 4: he was doing great, he was winning, and it seemed 741 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 4: like a good combo. So where do you go with him? Yeah, 742 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 4: you got to hit the reset button and look for 743 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 4: the right type of fights to get his confidence back 744 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 4: and you know, let him, uh you know, work on 745 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 4: new things without being under extreme amount of pressure. But unfortunately, 746 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 4: in the USC, it doesn't work like that. You know, 747 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 4: he's going to get another tough fight and uh, he's 748 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 4: gonna have to dig down deep. I think he's he's 749 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 4: gritty as hell, and I think he could do it. 750 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 4: But you know, look Derek Lewis and Curtis Blades at 751 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 4: the top of the top, and now we see Derek 752 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 4: Lewis even having problems, right, But he's always going to 753 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 4: have that ability to get you out of there with 754 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 4: one punch. 755 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 8: So I will here right away on the stool, like 756 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 8: he was right back, And he was in a really 757 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 8: good place mentally on the shuttle to the airport this morning. 758 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 6: I mean, I that's one of the harder navigations for me, 759 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 6: right with losing coaches and fighters on the bus the 760 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 6: morning after, and und. 761 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 5: He was in a really good place. 762 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 6: And I think, speculator, if I speculate, I would say 763 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 6: he's in a much better place now after going through 764 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 6: the Derek Lewis experience, Like all right, I'm just gonna 765 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 6: dust myself often do this again. I think he'll be 766 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 6: able to come out of this one a little bit 767 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 6: quicker than the last one. A couple other performances I 768 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 6: want to highlight before we talk about Al jamn sterling. 769 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 5: You getting anxious for April ninth or what? 770 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I love it, love it? 771 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 5: So are you and Danny Rube? You know Danny Rube 772 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 5: manages pyodor Yan. 773 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 6: I mean, you guys are obviously on AL. 774 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 5: I mean Danny Rue like that dude. That dude will 775 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 5: talk some shit too. 776 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 6: I mean, how are you guys sort of mingling in 777 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 6: Houston when in two weeks you're going to be rivals. 778 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 4: So look, I have no idea. He was Peteyn's manager 779 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 4: and we're talking and he's telling me, you know, like 780 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 4: the ref blue to cool. I'm like, what are you 781 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 4: talking about? It goes well, then was never meant to 782 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 4: be illegal? 783 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 5: Like how to fuck do you know that? 784 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 4: Look, I have no idea, and I'm like, wow, this 785 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 4: is somebody's bringing up like another point. I'm like, ten 786 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 4: minutes goes by and he starts talking about he's booking 787 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 4: Peter f p flight. Wait, I go manager. 788 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 5: I couldn't. 789 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 3: I couldn't stop laughing. 790 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 5: I I'm going to even know that. 791 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, well he was making a case for that 792 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 4: illegal me and I'm like, I never heard anybody say 793 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 4: this before. That's really fucking sid do it. It was hysterical 794 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 4: when I found out I had no idea, and I 795 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 4: was like, it's definitely a different way of looking at it. 796 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, but we have we had fun 797 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 4: and it's looking that's the that's the beauty of, you know, 798 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 4: being on opposite side. You could argue and then you 799 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 4: have breakfast with your jail and that's the way it 800 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 4: should be instead of you know, what you say everybody, 801 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 4: you know, the divisiveness even in this country, right, nobody 802 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 4: get along, but have the argument, go out and have 803 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 4: lunch man. That's it. That's it, that's end the story. 804 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 4: It's the way it should be. 805 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 5: How much more time do you have today? 806 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 4: Now? I'm gonna have all right, So. 807 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 6: Alexa Grosso real quickly and the co Maine event against 808 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 6: Joanne would masterful performance. She showed us a lot on 809 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 6: her wrestling, her jiu jitsu. As we said on the 810 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 6: broadcast first career submission, win found the right weight class. 811 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 6: You know, Kenny and I called some of her early fights, 812 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 6: if memory serves maybe not. I think her debut happened 813 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 6: just after Kentville left. But so much has been acted 814 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 6: of this woman, and she's just worked so hard and 815 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 6: it's all coming together and I'm just really happy for her. 816 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 6: And I know there's a Joanne woodside to this, but Ray, 817 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 6: I just want to get your thoughts on Grosso and uh, 818 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 6: you know her chops now as a UFC women's flyweight content. 819 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 4: Look, she's got everything it takes right, she's got she's 820 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 4: got the looks, she's got the talent. I think her 821 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 4: boxing is is spot on she is hot. 822 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 5: She's hot. Yeah, you know what I mean, Well, you 823 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 5: lead with the look. 824 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 4: I mean, she's I mean, look at a personality. Man, 825 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 4: she's a she's a sweetie. 826 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 5: No, you led with her looks though, yeah, you know 827 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 5: you don't. 828 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 4: Have to be like a creepy old guy. She's got 829 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 4: the look, Kenny, She's got the look. And I hear this. 830 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 5: John doesn't get out much, you know. 831 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 4: Ship po poor, poor Chrissy, Chrissy, my condolences. 832 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I'm telling you, Yeah, she's gonna go 833 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 5: to the husband. 834 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 4: But anyway, I think she's uh, it's just looking great 835 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 4: to me. She looks really good and she's like again, 836 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 4: she's always learning. And last night I was talking to 837 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 4: TJ on Extra rounds if anybody gives you shit. But 838 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 4: but you know, Mazuki fought her and Invictor that's right, yeah, 839 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 4: and he said it was a great fight. I didn't 840 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 4: really remember it. But she's really come a long way 841 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 4: based even on that. So yeah, yeah, she's in the 842 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 4: right spot, right where she wants to be. 843 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 6: And of course she's one of the few women at 844 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty five pounds that has yet to 845 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 6: face Valentina Shipchanko and she's perfect in the weight class. 846 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 6: So yeah, certainly big things ahead for Alexa Grosso and 847 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 6: uh Brandon. Moreno obviously was the first to break through 848 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 6: for Mexico, but she is just so proud of her 849 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 6: Mexican heritage and being a homegrown fighter that if she 850 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 6: could break through, it would just be absolutely enormous. Not 851 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 6: unlike Moreno, I think in terms of her star power, 852 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 6: finances and everything else, she's she's on the way. 853 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 4: And look, both of them have their personalities are just 854 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 4: really yeah, unbelievable, right. This' just you can't dislike either 855 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 4: of them, Like more even Moreno's just that nice people 856 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 4: that fight, would fight with heart and bulls and just yeah, 857 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 4: you know, it's just it's great, man, I'm not I'm 858 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 4: happy for both of them. 859 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 6: That's my favorite word to hear Race say the way 860 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 6: New Yorkers say balls. 861 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 5: Yno Moreno especially fights with balls. 862 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 6: I find yeah, I would say so, Joanne Wood, Perhaps 863 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 6: the submission defense left a little bit. 864 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 5: You never know these days, right. 865 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, right, who knows? You know? I identify as 866 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 4: a kangaroo right now. 867 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 5: Yeah. If you go to Ray long A on Instagram, 868 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 5: that is exactly what exactly. 869 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 6: So would submission defense left a little bit to be desired. 870 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 6: I just didn't think she was urgent at all in 871 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 6: terms of fighting the hands. And you know, she was 872 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 6: supposed to fight Valentina for the title that UFC two 873 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 6: fifty one of the rare instances in which Valentina had 874 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 6: to pull out the injury. 875 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 5: And now it's three straight losses for Joe Anne Wood. 876 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 6: And you know, I think she's a little bit conflicted 877 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 6: because she loves her steps on Mavericks so dearly. She 878 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 6: wants to be a mother, and she still works hard. 879 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 6: She's still you know, as ken Flow says, like a 880 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 6: nasty prick on fight night, like the main streak is 881 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 6: still there, the desire is still there. But I think 882 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 6: at this point, you know, the title contention goes away 883 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 6: with three straight losses. 884 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 5: You know, I don't know how many more times we 885 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 5: see each other. 886 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 4: And yeah, and think about that, that's got to stink. 887 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 4: You're right there for a title shot which could be 888 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 4: life changing. Yeah, and then this happens, and you know, 889 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 4: she is a you know, she seems like another sweetheart 890 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 4: and that's it stinks. But yeah, she was very close 891 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 4: and now she probably couldn't be further away, so mentally, 892 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 4: who knows how that's playing on a two? 893 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 6: All right, Ken Flow, I know I've been wrong, probably 894 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 6: more than I've been right, but I could not understand 895 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 6: why Kai Cara France was a near plus four hundred 896 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 6: underdog against Oscar oscarob And as much as I love 897 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 6: Oscar rob and again everybody when I would say that 898 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 6: to during fight week about Ky, They're like, dude, you 899 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 6: just don't know how good Ascar is, right, Everybody who 900 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 6: has seen him in the gym just absolutely fucking raves. 901 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 5: But Kay's just a dog. 902 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 6: Kenny, you know, and you know you're not gonna out 903 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 6: condition him, and he's very well coached. And you know, 904 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 6: Eugene Barman was not in his corner for the Garbrand fight. 905 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 6: He's a very calming influence for him. Your thoughts on 906 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 6: Car Front's potentially taking Oscarov's number two ranking. 907 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 5: Kenny KKF is a jude, Okay, He's he loves to 908 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 5: fight too. 909 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 7: Like there was a point where Askaroff after the first 910 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 7: round kind of like sunned them, like pushed him out, 911 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 7: and it was an Askaroff round and I was like, huh, interesting, 912 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 7: let's see how he responds. 913 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 5: And dude, he pepped up. 914 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 7: He basically said, in his mind, it looked like he 915 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 7: was like, I know everything that he can do to me. 916 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 7: That was everything that this guy has. I'm gonna make 917 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 7: the proper adjustments and I'm gonna beat him up. And 918 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 7: that's exactly what he did. He made the adjustments. He 919 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 7: kept him on the outside. There was, you know, one 920 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 7: time where he did get back taken. He did the 921 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 7: little hula hoop escape, got on top and stuck to 922 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 7: the game plan. And you see, he loved to be 923 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 7: there that night, even when he was in the tough spots, 924 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 7: he loved to be there. He stayed present, he was 925 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 7: firing back, and I had the feeling that things were 926 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 7: starting to shift and we're gonna go kay car Frantz's way. 927 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 7: And absolutely he did that. And this was you know, 928 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 7: and maybe this was why the odds were so much 929 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 7: in favor of Askarov was this is a terrible matchup 930 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 7: for him. This was a terrible matchup for him, and 931 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 7: we saw a little bit of why that was the case. 932 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 5: But this is a different KKF. This guy is really tough. 933 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 7: Watch out for that guy in that division because not 934 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 7: only are his skills coming together, it's probably coming together 935 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 7: because of what's going on in here in his head. 936 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 7: He believes in the process, he believes in himself, and 937 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 7: when those things come together mentally, physically, spiritually, technically, watch 938 00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 7: out for that dude. And that dude right now is 939 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 7: Kai Car France. 940 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent agree. What a beautiful fight, Just 941 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 4: a beautiful fight, and for reasons, Kenny said, Man, he 942 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 4: gave him a shove at the end of the round. 943 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 4: He had to have that guy on his back for 944 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 4: five minutes, and man, he just are you cut out? 945 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 4: Checking your cut out? 946 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 6: Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you, but somebody was 947 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 6: suggesting that maybe Oscar pushed him off because Kai was 948 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 6: like raking his eyes or I didn't see any of that, 949 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 6: but it seemed like some people were suggesting that maybe 950 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 6: there was something that Oscar. 951 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 5: Took exception to and that's why the shove got happened. 952 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I bet I don't know, but he still shouldn't 953 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 4: have shoved him. And I'm just so happy that Kai 954 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 4: came back and just pushed those next two rounds and 955 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 4: unequivocally won that fight. I think Danny was saying that 956 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,799 Speaker 4: breakfast that was split like people thought Oscar of when 957 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 4: I had that fight one hundred and fifty for Kai 958 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 4: caira France, he had the moment them and he h, 959 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 4: I thought he did a great job in that, And 960 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 4: you're right, he took the best that guy had to 961 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 4: n and he came back and he he he he 962 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 4: wobbled him a couple of times. And uh and to 963 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 4: to Askarov's you know credit too, he he shook it 964 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,439 Speaker 4: off and he came back. 965 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 5: You know. 966 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 4: But what a great fight for that kid. He definitely 967 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 4: one hundred deserves the title shout. I don't think there's 968 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 4: anybody that wouldn't want to see him fight moreno or uh, 969 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 4: you know the guy, I think he earned it with that, 970 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 4: with that shot, I'm sure they would have given Askaroff 971 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 4: the title fight off for that. 972 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 7: Kai was so effective that he was forcing Ascroft to 973 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 7: stand up and trade with him. Now, Askroff is he's 974 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 7: not you know, he wasn't shy there, but he certainly 975 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 7: had the advantage there. He was way more technical as 976 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 7: a striker than Askroff was. Askroff hits hard, but you 977 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 7: could see Ascroff was very frustrated and was forced into 978 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 7: Kay's game, and so I think that's kind of what 979 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 7: made it so beautiful that the adjustment for the first 980 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 7: round to where he was at the last round. 981 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 5: It was just a masterpiece. 982 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. Great. 983 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 6: Yeah is eighty percent deaf and just a tremendous individual. 984 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 6: For all of his perseverance, he had a pretty invasive 985 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 6: risk surgery, so he was out for a year, you know, 986 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 6: so perhaps that was a factor. But yeah, Kai car 987 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 6: Franz is the total package, right, like tuned in enough 988 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 6: to do the ohio on the microphone. 989 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 5: You know, he can promote a fight. 990 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 6: He has a crowd pleasing style, he's got the look right, 991 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 6: He's an attractive man, right if I can say that, 992 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 6: ran Yeah, you know, totally. 993 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 4: No, He's He's on a fricking roll every which way possible. 994 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 4: He's right where he wants to be, and I think 995 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,439 Speaker 4: he's got a lot of support behind him. Now, look, 996 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 4: I'm a huge based on even that fight, I'm I'm 997 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 4: a big fan of Kai Caraphrance. I think he's I 998 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 4: just like everything about him. His attitude, the way he 999 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 4: handles himself in the octagon, on the microphone, just a 1000 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 4: great It seems like a great kid, and he's got 1001 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 4: a great future in front of him. 1002 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 6: Man, So in twenty fourteen, if you would have told 1003 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 6: me that Neil Magne would one day tie George Saint 1004 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 6: Pierre for the UFC welterweight wins record, I would have 1005 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 6: probably said, Hey, if Magne ties GSP, I'll get the 1006 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 6: Canadian flag tattooed on my forehead. You know, nineteen wins. 1007 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 6: He started zero to two in the UFC. Kenny, I mean, 1008 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 6: Magne getting it done now. I happen to think Max 1009 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 6: Griffin had banked a couple of rounds, but I guess 1010 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,959 Speaker 6: that's either here nor there. It was a close fight, 1011 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 6: split decisions for Neil Magne. Ray, you got any thoughts 1012 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 6: on that. 1013 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I would have probably I like Neil Magnet, 1014 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 4: but I probably would have given a fight to Griffin. 1015 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 4: I thought he I thought he won the first two rounds, 1016 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 4: but the other guy was coming back towards the end 1017 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 4: of the second round. So maybe that's what. Yeah, shaded 1018 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 4: it a little bit, but. 1019 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 6: It's kind of really sting for Max. Right, instead of 1020 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 6: waking up Sunday as the number nine ranked welterweight in 1021 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 6: the world. You know, you may not get another shot 1022 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 6: at a ranked guy. 1023 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, he had such a good first round too. It 1024 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,399 Speaker 4: looked like it was just going all his. 1025 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 5: Way kind of, yes, a little bit. 1026 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Magni's just he's a dog and he 1027 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 4: does what he always does. He's steady and he's consistent, 1028 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 4: keeps putting the pressure on you. And yeah, I mean 1029 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 4: so it was I think a little bit of a 1030 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 4: tough fight to score. But either way, it was good. 1031 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 4: But I thought they were going to give that to 1032 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 4: Griffith for sure. But yeah, if you would have talked, 1033 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 4: I would have I would have been with you. I 1034 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 4: would have never thought he'd accomplish what he's accomplished, So 1035 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 4: power to him. 1036 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, before we let you go, a couple 1037 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 6: of notes on your guys, and we wish you all 1038 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 6: the best there with NAS and everybody else in Houston, 1039 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,280 Speaker 6: Texas tonight. 1040 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 5: But Chris Widman starting to move a little bit. I throw. 1041 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 6: I saw him throw a kick in training with the 1042 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 6: broken leg, albeit softly. By the way, Tom Lane was 1043 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 6: there with Brian Barberina in Columbus, Ohio. Yeah, he's working 1044 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 6: hard swim and sana, but uh yeah, anything on Wiman 1045 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 6: that's pretty encouraging. 1046 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 5: It's crazy to think that was almost a year ago. 1047 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 5: Eleven months. 1048 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's coming up. Yeah. 1049 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 6: Uh. 1050 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 4: And it was Jacksonville too, so I hoped there's not 1051 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 4: a curse in Jacksonville. But yeah, I haven't really talked. 1052 00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 4: I talked to him briefly last week. I think yet 1053 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 4: even know if I spoke to him while he was 1054 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 4: texting with him. No, I think I spoke to him, 1055 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 4: but he didn't. We really didn't talk about training, so 1056 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 4: I really don't know. You guys know more than me. 1057 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 4: I don't follow anything on anybody's story or anything like that, 1058 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 4: so I have no clue. 1059 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 5: So you have no idea that my minivan got totaled? 1060 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,879 Speaker 4: Uh? Last now I have no idea. All right, Yeah, 1061 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 4: all right, I heard something though. You guys were talking 1062 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 4: about sucking. Yeah, I saw comments. I think that. 1063 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 5: That's my bruise. 1064 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 4: Sorry, are you okay, buddy? 1065 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 5: I'm okay. Thanks, Ray. 1066 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 4: I appreciate how much damage? How much damage on the car? 1067 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 5: Total? They get totally four thousand dollars? 1068 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 4: Wow, big enough? 1069 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, problem is get a new one. 1070 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 6: It's fucking fifty so I lose twenty six yes on 1071 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 6: the exchange pretty much? All right, Last thing, of course, 1072 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:54,800 Speaker 6: you know what it is, This fucking guy man sterling 1073 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 6: kama al Jamine Cody. 1074 00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 5: I don't know if you can get me a betting line. 1075 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 6: I'd imagine he's pretty big underdog against Pyotr Jan, but 1076 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 6: these are the final days counting it down. 1077 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 5: What do you have for us on Alja before we 1078 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 5: let you fly? 1079 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say the sparing I saw on Thursday night. 1080 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 4: If that al Joe shows up, he's winning the fight. 1081 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 4: How's that? Is that good enough for you? That guy 1082 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 4: is point on right now mentally and physically, and you 1083 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 4: know it's still to bewitching two weeks, but as of 1084 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 4: right now, couldn't look better. Yeah, mentally he's mentally locked 1085 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 4: in no different fight. 1086 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, you know he's a plus three fifty underdog 1087 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 6: right now. So perhaps that's juicy to Uh. 1088 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 4: That's gonna close. I think that closes a lot towards 1089 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 4: the fight, all right, probably up to like four ninety, 1090 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 4: but who knows. 1091 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 5: May we do a little Anik Longo side wager on this? 1092 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 4: Wow? You sa, I'm just we're not gonna that was 1093 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 4: your guy, al Jo? 1094 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 5: Still, my god, I have fun with you. 1095 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,240 Speaker 4: Oh my god? Poor you know, because a guy loses 1096 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,760 Speaker 4: a fight or wins a fighter. 1097 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 5: People come on, it's just for the show. 1098 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 4: Oh okay, the show. So we're doing a sidewage. 1099 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,800 Speaker 6: We'll just do a bet for something silly. No tattoo 1100 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 6: is not going to make you shave your head, you 1101 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 6: know right. 1102 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 5: We still we still got we. 1103 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,839 Speaker 4: Still got other business to do. What I see in Jacksonville. 1104 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 6: Now you're scaring, like, I want to hear what you 1105 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 6: have to say? Can we talk about ray Longo's gold rollie? 1106 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 5: By the way, can we talk the sunglasses o? 1107 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 4: My man? 1108 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 7: See, so for those that say we're not giving him 1109 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 7: any money for the T shirt, that all is just 1110 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 7: T shirt money, guys. 1111 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 5: Okay, so just look at you. 1112 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 4: Know what, you know what? 1113 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:44,919 Speaker 3: I cool? 1114 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 4: That cool that metts Sarah versus met us. 1115 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh man, I love it. That think. 1116 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 4: I think, uh het he fought him on my fiftieth birthday, 1117 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 4: I think, and I was down in Vegas. 1118 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, so that's what I did, hear loom item my 1119 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 7: friend beautiful. 1120 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,760 Speaker 6: Yes, Rolexes just continue to go up in value, speaking 1121 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 6: of which actually going down in value. Right, I'm walking 1122 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 6: out of the arena and some fan asks me to 1123 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 6: sign his Rolex, and I'm like, really with a permam, 1124 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 6: aren't you want me to do this right the inside 1125 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 6: of it? 1126 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:21,359 Speaker 4: Right? 1127 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 9: Like? 1128 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,240 Speaker 6: So, I get a message on Instagram this morning He's like, uh, 1129 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 6: hey man, thanks for signing my uh my rolex. I 1130 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 6: was a little bit browned out. You know, I don't 1131 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 6: know if he was regretting the decision. 1132 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 5: I'm sure. 1133 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 6: I'm not Joe Rogan, you know, like what like that 1134 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 6: it's going to depreciate significantly. 1135 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 5: But all right, I'll sign it. 1136 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 4: I mean, that guy's got to know sello watch with 1137 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,239 Speaker 4: your name on it. 1138 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 6: Or he's he and his wife spent all day trying 1139 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:53,760 Speaker 6: to get the magic eraser my fignuture off of the rolex. Yeah, 1140 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 6: all right, Ray, great day, better evening. Wish you all 1141 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 6: the best. You're flying home tomorrow morning. 1142 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 4: I soon tomorrow morning. Made a little crazy. 1143 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 5: Let's go, let's go. 1144 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 4: I's gonna have been in the UFC Fight Pass Fury Championships. 1145 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 4: Be there tonight. 1146 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 5: I will, I will, And I guess the silver lining 1147 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,359 Speaker 5: is pardon the voice crack. 1148 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 6: The silver lining though, is that if Noz loses, at 1149 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 6: least he's one of Danny Rube's guys, you know. 1150 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 4: So that the pon thing was priceless this morning. Crazy, 1151 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 4: I'm sitting there going, I've never heard anybody come up 1152 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 4: with this ship before this. 1153 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 5: If he was speaking, he'd be asking you things about algae. 1154 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,839 Speaker 5: So how's Aljols training? What's he doing? 1155 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 4: What's I hope he did? I might have, might have 1156 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 4: I don't even know I was. I was. 1157 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:43,760 Speaker 5: We got double agents everywhere. 1158 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 4: Ray watch it on real. 1159 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 6: All right, Well, don't spend too much time with Rube, 1160 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 6: have a great night, and uh, we will talk to 1161 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 6: you next Sunday. 1162 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,439 Speaker 5: Man, all right, man, take it alright? By what a guy? 1163 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 5: What a guy? 1164 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 6: The Ray Longo minute every week here on the Anna 1165 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 6: and Florian Podcast. I quickly want to shout out a 1166 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 6: few other performances, and then we're gonna bring on our guy, 1167 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 6: Brian Petrie, not to make predictions, but just to see 1168 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 6: how he, uh, what he felt about the Columbus show, 1169 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 6: because he was in the building last night and I 1170 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 6: got to meet him for the first time. 1171 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,760 Speaker 5: But uh, Chris. 1172 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 6: Gutiera's performance bonus for a spinning backfist knockout. I was 1173 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,240 Speaker 6: surprised Kenny only only the ninth knockout in UFC history, 1174 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 6: stemming from a spinning backfist. I thought it was more 1175 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 6: than that, but really feel good for him to get 1176 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 6: that bonus and the signature win. Ali oskop Kiriev a 1177 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 6: real problem at middleweight, looks like he's gonna move down 1178 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 6: to welterweight and myn O fure with a big win 1179 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 6: over Jennifer Maya and Matteus Nicolao as well with a 1180 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 6: big win at flyweight over David Devorakienz's sixteenth fight winning 1181 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 6: streak and also Marcha Casey fucking man. I mean, that's 1182 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 6: exactly how you need to approach that fight, and I 1183 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 6: thought he really uh passed the test in a big way. 1184 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 6: All right, let us bring on our guy. Brian Petrie 1185 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 6: from the MMA Takes podcast had to see your face today? 1186 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 5: But how you doing? Is that in a Ditus Equipment sweatshirt? 1187 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 2: It is? 1188 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 3: But I almost ran and got my fossil watch, but 1189 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,360 Speaker 3: I didn't want to embarrass Ray with this fucking roll out. 1190 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 5: Jesus, So how tall are you? 1191 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 3: Six? 1192 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 4: Two? 1193 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1194 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:13,439 Speaker 4: Hell? 1195 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:13,960 Speaker 5: Yeah? Man? 1196 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 3: Right, but my head, my head is like a nine, 1197 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 3: so my head is a giant. So I saw the 1198 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 3: comments through were like, dude, how fucking tall I was like, 1199 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 3: well I was on a platform. Well, my head's fucking enormous. 1200 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 6: So yeah, well it was great to see you, and 1201 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 6: you know, a lot a more serious note, we really 1202 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 6: appreciate everything you brought to the show. I mean, it 1203 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,840 Speaker 6: is so clear that you have been watching the sports 1204 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 6: so closely since you were a very young man, and 1205 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 6: obviously it translates to our audience, and uh you just 1206 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 6: have a great ability to communicate it with comedy and 1207 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 6: uh so it was nice to be able to shake 1208 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 6: your hand last night, and we thank you for your contributions, 1209 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 6: which we know we'll continue on the show. But overall, 1210 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 6: just thoughts on being in the building last night. You know, 1211 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,720 Speaker 6: I have a whole newfound respect for Ohio sports fans, 1212 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 6: you know, just in terms of the volume. But what 1213 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 6: were your thoughts on being in the building last night. 1214 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 5: It's great we showed. 1215 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 3: Out, I mean Ohio showed on. I mean, I'm from Cincinnati, 1216 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 3: but Columbus is only an hour and a half of 1217 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 3: the road. Oh Ahhio. I mean, listen, Kai car France 1218 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 3: might want to buy a house in Ohio. That dude 1219 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 3: is royalty. 1220 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 4: Now. 1221 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 3: I only heard a couple punch him in the faces 1222 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 3: and then kick his ass Sea Bass, which is from 1223 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 3: like ninety four. Let's get some new bits, guys, just 1224 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 3: some new material. But the section I was in, everyone 1225 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,319 Speaker 3: was like pretty hardcore, they're pretty good seats, and no 1226 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 3: one really kind of acted up or anything. It was 1227 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,279 Speaker 3: it was pretty nice, you know, and uh, I thought 1228 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 3: we were allowed. My buddy texted me said, dude, Ohio said, 1229 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,359 Speaker 3: well he's not electric. I mean, I don't know if 1230 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 3: we're London, but I mean, listen, we're you know, Columbus 1231 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 3: is a higher state that we brought it out and 1232 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,399 Speaker 3: I met a lot of people from Cleveland, so people 1233 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,399 Speaker 3: from Cleveland drove down. 1234 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 5: I drove up. 1235 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 3: So uh it was awesome, Yeah, it was. 1236 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 4: It was. It was great. 1237 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,439 Speaker 3: It was a fucking love being there. 1238 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 6: I didn't realize quite how popular Steepe was around those parts. 1239 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 5: I thought I knew. 1240 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 6: I mean, you would have thought that, uh, I mean, 1241 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 6: who's the who's the most glorified Ohio athlete of all time? 1242 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 6: Because you would have thought that fuck guy walked out 1243 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 6: the sure. 1244 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 3: Uh I mean right now, Joe Burrow, who was there 1245 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,359 Speaker 3: that you met, and he walked right by. I was like, oh, 1246 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 3: she is that Joe Burrow. I didn't yell at any 1247 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 3: fighter all night. It just clapped. Joe Burrow walked down. 1248 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:11,319 Speaker 3: I'm like a little girl. 1249 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 5: He threw me at Deuce. 1250 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean listen Burrow right now, I mean 1251 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 3: you probably got you know, Eddie George probably brings house 1252 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 3: down back in the day. 1253 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 4: Uh you know. 1254 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 3: But fighter wise, I mean rich As Franklin was the 1255 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 3: man for a while. I mean, Matt Brown got a 1256 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 3: huge pop. But steep a like step as fun and 1257 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 3: he you know, you know, Cody Garbrant moved away. He 1258 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:33,240 Speaker 3: wraps Cali. 1259 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 4: Now. 1260 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 3: Steve a is like, I'm a fireman. I live in 1261 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 3: you know, independence of Heart right by Cleveland. I'm not 1262 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 3: going anywhere. And we love him for it. 1263 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1264 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,279 Speaker 3: And he was sitting there fucking drinking, slamming beers, doing 1265 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:46,720 Speaker 3: the ohs in the middle of fights. 1266 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 5: He loved it. 1267 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, Jim Brown, Lebron James, a couple of other AIO athletes. 1268 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 6: I would say for Kai Cotta France though, if he 1269 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 6: is gonna buy real estate and Ohio got to figure 1270 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,240 Speaker 6: out who Joe Burrow is pretty quickly. 1271 00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 3: Oh that's so funny. But listen, I know, I get it. 1272 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,479 Speaker 3: I getred I get my buddy's like, this fucking guy 1273 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 3: doesn't know who Joe Burrow is my buddy. All my 1274 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 3: friends are collegiate soccer players, so they don't watch himm A. 1275 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, listen, they fuck He's from New Zealand. It's 1276 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:14,319 Speaker 3: rugby over there. 1277 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,400 Speaker 5: That's their football court, and I can know this guy is. 1278 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 3: But props with Concard France. He looked great. Uh, I 1279 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,919 Speaker 3: actually scored it. No one shoot me for escar Rough. 1280 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 3: But that's just that's just because I had him. I 1281 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 3: thought he won the third round. I thought Kai threw 1282 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 3: a lot in the third round. I just don't think 1283 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 3: he did much. But I'm glad Kai won because he's 1284 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 3: you know, he's the bigger promotional star, in my opinion, 1285 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 3: more pleasing fight. He's only lost you goddamn fights in 1286 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 3: the UFC. Brandon Marino in a wild scrap of revolt 1287 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 3: like I myself. John was trying to sway us there 1288 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 3: last week when we're picking our fights, Kenny and we 1289 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 3: both were like, we know what we're doing. Johnny's the sharp. 1290 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 6: Uh. 1291 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 3: I gotta stop. I gotta stop this disrespecting Kai Kar 1292 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 3: France because he's really good. 1293 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 5: Well, and I think there was a lot. 1294 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think there was a time where I 1295 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,600 Speaker 6: thought his ceiling was maybe lowered, and I think it 1296 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 6: is now. 1297 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 5: But he's just getting better mentally physically. 1298 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 3: What I noticed I saw you guys talking about the 1299 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 3: one thing I noticed. I love is a rough first round, right, 1300 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 3: and it was a slick back take by Asker, but 1301 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 3: he stayed so fucking calm. I mean that kid that 1302 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 3: Asker's death on the back, and he stayed calm. He 1303 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 3: was like, I've been here before. I'm good. After the 1304 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 3: second round the little shove, he shook his head. I'm like, oh, 1305 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 3: this is good. This is about start turning here. 1306 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 4: This is gonna be good. 1307 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 3: My wife was all into it. 1308 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:27,280 Speaker 5: It's great, it's great. 1309 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 6: So if Alil Latifi had lost to Alexiolnic, the fight 1310 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 6: did not happen. 1311 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 5: Alil la tf he woke up with a stomach bug. 1312 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 6: But if Alexeolinic was able to spring the upset, you 1313 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 6: were gonna have to shave your head. 1314 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:37,080 Speaker 4: Is that right? 1315 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 3: Put a big put a big old ray here. Why 1316 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 3: Scott Clippers. I was ready to do it hat on 1317 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:43,959 Speaker 3: for a week. 1318 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 5: I don't care. 1319 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 6: Well, just let your wife know that they could rebook 1320 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 6: that one in short order said that that night resurface. 1321 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 3: It's it's on until the fight happens. I'll tell you 1322 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:52,959 Speaker 3: that right there. 1323 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 6: All right, brother, two more things before we left to fly, 1324 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 6: and we appreciate you stepping up today. Barberina, Matt Brown. 1325 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 6: Did you have a scorecard on that fight? What were 1326 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 6: your thoughts on Brown? 1327 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 3: So in the building it was very loud, and I 1328 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 3: picked Barberina obviously, but and uh, I only had the 1329 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 3: bat fight not going to decision, so I didn't pick 1330 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 3: money line on that. But in the picks we did, 1331 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 3: I thought Matt Brown won. I did. The third round 1332 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 3: was rough on him, but I thought he did enough 1333 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 3: in the first two. But a lot of my buddies 1334 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 3: back at home or text me, I do I think 1335 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,959 Speaker 3: Barbarina got that? I think Barbarina got that. I'm like, man, 1336 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 3: maybe the crowd swayed me or something. I thought Brown 1337 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 3: did enough. You know, the third round was the toughest round, 1338 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 3: but it was the funnest round. And those guys are 1339 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 3: fucking going my gassing and just throwing. I loved it. 1340 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 3: I mean it's not the most technical, but it you know, 1341 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 3: I saw visiting jump up and clap. It was fun. 1342 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,880 Speaker 3: But I did have Matt Brown winning that fight. I 1343 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 3: thought he I thought he did enough. He landed five takedowns. 1344 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 3: He was mixing up really well. I mean he was. 1345 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 3: He was taking shots, but he's also giving shots. It 1346 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 3: was very, very competitive fight. But I did think Matt 1347 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 3: Brown won enough, won enough rounds to do on my cart. 1348 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 5: Man, what a fight like. I don't even know how 1349 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 5: to call the round, you know, I don't know. 1350 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 6: Sick sick all right, last thing BP before we let 1351 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 6: you go back to the family. Curtis Blades over Chris 1352 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 6: Daccas in the main event. Just want a few thoughts 1353 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 6: on both guys, right, because this is an appreciable setback 1354 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 6: for Chris Daccas and a monumentally enormous win by knockout 1355 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 6: for Curtis Blades. 1356 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:20,040 Speaker 4: Your thoughts. 1357 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 3: So, I love the approach Curtis Blades took in this. 1358 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 3: He blew me away right. His boxing looked really good. 1359 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 3: He's not the fastest guy, but his counters and timing 1360 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,360 Speaker 3: were just on point. And that's what he needs to do. 1361 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 3: And he said it perfectly in his post fight. People 1362 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 3: expect me to wrestle so that that slows them down 1363 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 3: and lets me strike a little bit. He's a big 1364 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 3: fucking guy. He can obviously hit hard. Doccas he walked 1365 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 3: right by me. And I'm a big sick guy, and 1366 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 3: I'm looking at this dude like this is a heavyweight, Like, 1367 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 3: you know, I feel like he's a little like I 1368 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 3: know he's six y three, but I'm like a little 1369 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 3: bit of belly wade or whatever. He's two fortyish or whatever. 1370 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 3: I don't know how big of a cut that was is, 1371 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 3: you know, But I don't write him off. I know 1372 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 3: a lot of MMA fans are gonna be so negative. 1373 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 3: I'm not doing. I think he's gonna guy. It was 1374 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 3: a competitive first round. I gave it the Blades second round, 1375 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,960 Speaker 3: though I thought his corner priably I didn't hear. I 1376 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 3: haven't heard it back yet. His corner probably told him, like, 1377 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 3: let's open up a little most he's not wanting to 1378 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 3: wrestle us, open up, Litim Moore, And he opened up 1379 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 3: and Curtis Blaze land at the right hand. I think 1380 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 3: Curtis Blades is again a guy I disrespect just because 1381 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 3: of the inconsistency I see sometimes. But he lost two people, right, 1382 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 3: He's beating everyone and he's a legit dude. And if 1383 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 3: he keeps learning these skills and comes in shape like 1384 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 3: he does, he's he's a fucking issue. I like to 1385 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 3: call out too. I like the steep bit call out, 1386 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 3: very respectable. You know, he didn't go crazy because he 1387 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 3: had got fucking booed because we were they were going 1388 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 3: a little bit. And then I like the intern because 1389 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 3: I mean Francis is out, you know for what you know, 1390 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 3: nine months with the knee surgery. You gotta have someone 1391 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 3: in there, you know. I think tom Ospeall's gonna be 1392 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 3: thrown around. Obviously he called out Gone, but uh yeah, 1393 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,920 Speaker 3: Kurtz Blades blew me away. I thought he would lose 1394 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 3: the striking match, and he won, and he won devastating me. 1395 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 5: So yeah, that's prevailing wisdom. 1396 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 6: Seems to be uh that that interim championship is gonna 1397 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 6: come down to steep A and either John Jones tru 1398 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 6: Curtis Blade It Gone is probably not going to be 1399 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 6: in that mix. But I think Blades he's either getting 1400 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,960 Speaker 6: Gonner or Steeve Bay. I just feel like Steve Ba's 1401 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 6: holding out for Johnny Bones. But we shall see. 1402 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 5: Uh. 1403 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 6: And last thing, I'll just say, like when we asked 1404 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 6: the Blades camp about Chris Daucus. To your point, one 1405 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 6: of the first things they said was like he's small, 1406 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 6: Like he's really small for heavyweight. 1407 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 5: You know, yeah he did. 1408 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 6: But yeah, all right, Well, great to have you with 1409 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 6: us for a few minutes at MMA Takes podcast. If 1410 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 6: you want to follow Brian Petrion, why would you not now? 1411 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 6: But thank you brother for everything, and thank you. We 1412 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 6: will talk to you in the not too distant future. 1413 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 3: Awesome, I'll see you guys. Good meeting you, John. Thanks guys, being. 1414 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 6: All right, have a good rest of your Sunday. Brian 1415 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 6: Peter with us here on the Anak and Florian Podcast. 1416 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:39,880 Speaker 6: I would like to see Cody Merra before we get 1417 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 6: on out of here. Hey, Sean Prickland's gonna fight Alex Padda, 1418 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 6: Is that right at middleweight? 1419 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,440 Speaker 5: Yes he is. You have two seventy seven. 1420 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 6: Sean Strickland doesn't turn down opponents, you know, because he's 1421 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,440 Speaker 6: on the short list of guys you could put in 1422 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 6: a title fight right now, and instead he's fighting a 1423 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 6: guy who correct me if I'm wrong, does need to 1424 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 6: app a number next to his name? 1425 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 4: Cody? 1426 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,000 Speaker 5: I mean not as a stand now, things will change. 1427 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 5: Things will change, you know, that'll be that's gonna be 1428 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 5: a beggar. But here's the thing. I know Sean is 1429 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 5: a savage, but we may see him grapple in this one. 1430 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's the way, that's what he should do. Yeah, 1431 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 6: try anyway, Yeah right, I don't know Cody anything else 1432 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 6: before we get out of here. 1433 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:21,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, a couple of couple of points here with the 1434 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,440 Speaker 9: Marrow seconds, you know, a little duality words is he 1435 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 9: Cannoneer isn't booked yet, so an update at middleweight. So 1436 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 9: that's the direction everything is trending. Ireny al Donna is 1437 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 9: out at UFC two seventy three. Sources say Rocky Pennington 1438 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 9: is in against aspen Ladd. I think that's actually a 1439 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 9: better fight, you know, winnable fight for Rocky. I think 1440 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 9: she's ninth in the rankings. Uh Casey O'Neill versus Jessica 1441 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,360 Speaker 9: I slated for UFC two seventy six. 1442 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 3: So moving a prospect along there. 1443 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, that loves women's MMA. This producer Han. 1444 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 3: Jesus got anything all about it. 1445 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 5: We're all about everybody. 1446 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,680 Speaker 3: The next one is about two of the Smash bros. 1447 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 9: I don't know if you guys seen Hamza and Till's 1448 01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 9: content lately, but they went in and trashed the tar 1449 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 9: Get like the other day. Like just two dudes being boys, 1450 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 9: like two boys being dudes, like just interesting stuff on 1451 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,400 Speaker 9: their social media. And last, but not least, UFC fan 1452 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 9: future MVP candidate thirty for thirty perennial player, Welcome to Boston, 1453 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 9: Trevor Story. 1454 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:21,520 Speaker 5: Oh thank I gotta say so, and again, thank you, Cody. 1455 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 5: You know. 1456 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,000 Speaker 6: Sometimes and while the majority of our listenership is in 1457 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,680 Speaker 6: the United States, we do have a huge portion of 1458 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 6: our listeners who are international. And when we talk about 1459 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 6: the Boston Red Sox or Joe Burrow, they don't know 1460 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,479 Speaker 6: what we're saying. But Trevor Story, who the Red Sox 1461 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,000 Speaker 6: just gave one hundred and forty million dollars, is a 1462 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 6: huge UFC fan, you know, And so it's sort of 1463 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 6: unique being an announcer for the UFC because so many 1464 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 6: of these high profile professional athletes are rabid UFC fans. 1465 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 6: So Trevor Story signs with the Red Sox, I go 1466 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,960 Speaker 6: to his Instagram page and it says follow back. I'm like, 1467 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,280 Speaker 6: this dude's following me, you know, And then I'm able 1468 01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 6: to have a conversation with the guy who just signed 1469 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,160 Speaker 6: with the baseball team that just dominated my formative years. 1470 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,680 Speaker 6: So very excited to get my Trevor story Jersey and 1471 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,840 Speaker 6: that will put a bow on that. One other thing 1472 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,520 Speaker 6: before we go to the fans in the United Kingdom, 1473 01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 6: We obviously have so much appreciation for you listening to 1474 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 6: the show, watching the show, all that you brought to 1475 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 6: the table in London. But I heard from a few 1476 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,200 Speaker 6: fans and I just can you imagine what these fans 1477 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 6: have to do every week to pull all nighters to 1478 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:24,920 Speaker 6: watch these fights? 1479 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:25,360 Speaker 5: Oh my god. 1480 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 6: And I don't know if there's anything that we can 1481 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 6: do to affect change, because a lot of these fights 1482 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,000 Speaker 6: are going to be primetime in the US. But if 1483 01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 6: you're a UFC fan in the United Kingdom, you're you're 1484 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 6: staying up all night like forty one times a year. 1485 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:39,320 Speaker 5: And as someone. 1486 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 6: Who does that regularly, like it's hell on your body, 1487 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 6: So you all have my respect. 1488 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 5: I just wanted to say absolutely. 1489 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,120 Speaker 7: In fact, I'm looking at a car myself, John and 1490 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 7: the sales managers from Scotland and he's, you know, talking 1491 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 7: about how he grew up watching UFC and that was 1492 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,080 Speaker 7: one of the things he talked about, he'd have to, 1493 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 7: you know, stay up to like five am with his friends, 1494 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,040 Speaker 7: you know, and you're drinking. He's like, you can't stay up. 1495 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 7: But that's commitment, dude, that's awesome. 1496 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 6: It's really hard, like at two am start time for 1497 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 6: the main card, like if you have children, I mean, 1498 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 6: I guess maybe your nap or something. I don't know, 1499 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 6: But again, I know sometimes for American fight fans, we 1500 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:17,360 Speaker 6: have some you know. 1501 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:19,760 Speaker 5: Cards in the middle of the night. 1502 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 6: But I just think for the Europeans who watched this 1503 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 6: sport at all hours of the night, I just wanted 1504 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:25,920 Speaker 6: to shout you guys all out all right, thank you 1505 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 6: to everybody for watching, for listening. Don't forget Anna florianpodcast 1506 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,600 Speaker 6: dot com for everything you need to know about the show. 1507 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,840 Speaker 6: If you want to buy this T shirt where Keflo 1508 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 6: just looks so goddamn tough and that show promo code 1509 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 6: AF ten one more sleep merchandise at millions dot co. 1510 01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 6: And we are back with you next week as we 1511 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:45,480 Speaker 6: get you ready for UFC two seventy three. We thank 1512 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,240 Speaker 6: Ray Longo and Brian Petrie, our executive producer Cody Merrill. 1513 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 5: For Kenny Flora and I'm John Anick. 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