Speaker 1: Suffice to say, questionable choices ensued. And I've been a
Speaker 1: little wary of drinking in the Mile High State ever since.
Speaker 1: You look at this boat, and you'll think this boat
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with mastering bass. How much of
Speaker 1: the deal's list you need smoke to get through a
Speaker 1: day like that? And these are big, juicy, nasty, segmented
Speaker 1: black Allien centipede looking suckers. And I'll be honest, they
Speaker 1: scare the ship out of me. Good morning, degenerate anglers,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Bent the Fishing Podcast. Not afraid to
Speaker 1: tell you that nobody takes you seriously when you show
Speaker 1: up to fish wearing a T shirt or hat and
Speaker 1: blazoned with the species of fish you're trying to catch.
Speaker 1: On it. I'm Joe SURMELI I'm Miles Nulty, and I
Speaker 1: want to take a minute and let you know what
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Speaker 1: Not only would Miles and I be utterly incapable of
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Speaker 1: your sinkos man, it'll get them all woke. Get get
Speaker 1: them and go on. Joe, I don't know how things
Speaker 1: are out your way, but I'm sitting here sipping on
Speaker 1: my mug, gazing out the window, and things just do
Speaker 1: not look right, you know, with all these fires just
Speaker 1: raging across this half of the country. Man, It's seriously,
Speaker 1: it feels like I'm living in more door. It's like
Speaker 1: dark all the time, and ominous, dude, that smoke, that
Speaker 1: smoke made it all the way to me. We got
Speaker 1: smoked out here in Pennsylvania. I mean, it's that bad.
Speaker 1: It's terrible, man. And usually usually by mid September things
Speaker 1: are looking up, like usually by this time, you're the
Speaker 1: the fires are out, the tourists are gone, all the
Speaker 1: bow hunters are up in the mountains chasing Olk and
Speaker 1: I've like kind of got the rivers to myself. But
Speaker 1: it's still warm enough that I don't have to wear
Speaker 1: waiters or freaking love September most of the time, but
Speaker 1: this year not so much. I kind of feel like
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like September has turned her back
Speaker 1: on me. September is my least favorite month out here,
Speaker 1: if I'm being honest, because it's like purgatory, Like September
Speaker 1: is neither here nor there. You know, it's not cold
Speaker 1: enough for solid salty stripers yet, but all the freshwater
Speaker 1: patterns from summer start to change, so you have to
Speaker 1: like think more, you know, put more effort in here.
Speaker 1: Ship think about it. I'm sure it's still good, but
Speaker 1: the windows get fewer, gets all windy and hurricaney. You know,
Speaker 1: False Abbey's might start, or they might wait till October.
Speaker 1: Who knows. It's like a month that just needs to
Speaker 1: be gotten through. It's like you're inching closer to steel
Speaker 1: Head season, but it's still eighty five degrees out right now,
Speaker 1: you know, hold hold of up. Just to clarify, by
Speaker 1: steel Head you actually mean Lake Run Rainbows, right, because
Speaker 1: according to the metal heads out here in the West,
Speaker 1: if it doesn't touch salt water, it's not a real
Speaker 1: steel head. Oh, I know. And hearing that for years,
Speaker 1: you guys are just bitter because you're steel head fisheries
Speaker 1: are dying, but the Great Lakes are still pumping out
Speaker 1: lots of fish, like literally on demand sort of, especially
Speaker 1: on the famed Salmon River in New York. It's like
Speaker 1: you're all ready for stammon and steel open end valves
Speaker 1: boys call them in is y'all? Is y'all common a
Speaker 1: turn of phrase that you guys us an upstate New York?
Speaker 1: Is that is that part of the terminology. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I use it personally a lot of
Speaker 1: I've heard some y'alls up there for it, some yalls
Speaker 1: in Western p A, you know. But I think it
Speaker 1: is when we're we're doing a damn release steelhead cattle drive,
Speaker 1: it just seems to fit. And I don't really give
Speaker 1: a ship what you call them, right, But when I
Speaker 1: go to the trips, I actually catch steel head instead
Speaker 1: of standing around like an asshole casting for days with
Speaker 1: some misguided sense of self importance. You know, I fished
Speaker 1: that the shoots one time. My life wasn't impressed. Sorry,
Speaker 1: sorry it wasn't. I spent more time trying to stay
Speaker 1: on my feet on that greasy ass flat rock they
Speaker 1: got out there than like paying attention to my swing. No,
Speaker 1: that's legit, man, That that that is some sketchy, sketchy
Speaker 1: lad rock on the the shoots. But to be brutal,
Speaker 1: it's clear I don't actually have a dog in this whole.
Speaker 1: Like steelhead, great legs, steelhead fight. I just like how
Speaker 1: piste off people get about fish semantics like that's just fun.
Speaker 1: I want to poke that bear. And for those of
Speaker 1: you out here have no idea what we're talking about,
Speaker 1: steelhead or migratory rainbow trout that people lose their minds
Speaker 1: over because I mean, well really, because they're just a
Speaker 1: lot of fun to catch. Their native to the West
Speaker 1: Coast but stocked in the Great Lakes. Unfortunately, the western
Speaker 1: populations have been declining big time for a while now,
Speaker 1: but the cult of anglers who live for them, they're
Speaker 1: a rare breed. As you're about to learn in this
Speaker 1: week's Regional Fishing Report. We got this coming to you
Speaker 1: from a legend of that scene and a pioneer of
Speaker 1: both the slap Tworld lean cast and the quarter turn
Speaker 1: class skate three technique. Those are some fancy two handed
Speaker 1: fly cast that we just made up. For those of
Speaker 1: you who are looking confused, settle up, steelheaders, it's time
Speaker 1: for the Western steelhead Report from your buddy Skadget Johnson. Well,
Speaker 1: it's late summer, so we're in the depths of the
Speaker 1: Jones and man, if you don't have the shakes and
Speaker 1: the sweats and you're not a real steelheater, those of
Speaker 1: us who get it or zombie to our computer screens
Speaker 1: all night staring at the seven day rolling fish count,
Speaker 1: try and interpret the data, hitt and refresh every fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: and praying that those fish counts start to rise. Zee.
Speaker 1: For those of you don't know, fisheries biologists are interns.
Speaker 1: They're called fish texts. Now. Those dudes they count every
Speaker 1: single fish that migrates passed the dams on the Columbia
Speaker 1: River and they upload those fish numbers to the Federal
Speaker 1: Fish Passage website in real time, man real time. For
Speaker 1: the past ten years, those numbers have been lower than
Speaker 1: the sperm count. Never since I got that shooting head
Speaker 1: wrapped around the sack while we'd nippled deep during the
Speaker 1: high flows on the d shoots. But for as bad
Speaker 1: as us real steelheads have it, I feel like we've
Speaker 1: got a kindred connection with those poor bastards who sit
Speaker 1: in the bowels of the damns, hitting that clicker each
Speaker 1: time a steel head Coho or chinook swims up the ladder.
Speaker 1: What a job, man, click click, clickity click, hours on end.
Speaker 1: How much of the devil's letust you need to smoke
Speaker 1: to get through a day like that? I don't know. Yeah, wait,
Speaker 1: I think what was I saying? All right, right, we're
Speaker 1: all in this together, man, those sad sack fish counters
Speaker 1: and those of us sitting on the other end of
Speaker 1: that WiFi signal praying the numbers will be higher than
Speaker 1: the text doing the counting. I'm even considering to go
Speaker 1: fund me to pay the fish counters to skew the data.
Speaker 1: At least we could get some hope. And that's really
Speaker 1: what this is all about, man, hope. This is the
Speaker 1: hopeful time, the time before we find out the truth
Speaker 1: and all our dreams are crushed again. Fish might come back.
Speaker 1: Maybe it'll be like two thousand nine, That was a
Speaker 1: good year. I was looking over my fishing spread eats
Speaker 1: the other night, trying to remember exactly which head length
Speaker 1: and grain weight works best. From my burke came across
Speaker 1: my ratio. It's a fish caught to hours fished. In
Speaker 1: two thousand nine it was one to eight. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine catching a fish every eight hours? God, that would
Speaker 1: be amazing. The truth is, man, the runs are probably
Speaker 1: gonna suck this year, just like they did last year
Speaker 1: and the year before that. Embrace the suck man. It's
Speaker 1: another season weeding out the trustafarians. Chaff will sink in
Speaker 1: the cream. It will rise, it will rise. Wait, I
Speaker 1: think it might a mix my old time he metaphor?
Speaker 1: Is there but any any anyway? Man? The point is
Speaker 1: us bona fides will be out there fishing still despite
Speaker 1: the terrible returns. And that's I find my ray of
Speaker 1: sunshine in the dark moss covered rainforest cabin. That is
Speaker 1: my life. Man. I can always rely on my own
Speaker 1: sense of superiority. My teletherapist says I should be more positive,
Speaker 1: so I'm trying that out. That's that's it for this
Speaker 1: week's Western steelhead Report. I'll check back in the fall. Man.
Speaker 1: By then, we should know if any fish at all
Speaker 1: are getting past the Bonneville, damn, they're all getting trapped
Speaker 1: in gillnets and eating by sea lions. God, I hate
Speaker 1: goddamn sea lions. You know, man, Great Lakes steelheaders are
Speaker 1: definitely a little less chill than your your buddy Johnson
Speaker 1: over there chill. He's pretty laid back, but they're an
Speaker 1: interesting crew into themselves. And look, stay tuned, east Side
Speaker 1: people for a steelhead report from over this way very soon.
Speaker 1: It'll be more uplifting, I promise. But as much as
Speaker 1: I as I enjoy the back and forth between east
Speaker 1: Side west Side steel I am genuinely bummed because I
Speaker 1: have never called a true salter like I feel like,
Speaker 1: if you're in the steelhead, you should at least catch
Speaker 1: one of those at some point in your steel heading career.
Speaker 1: But then I listen to reports like this, and my
Speaker 1: my mellow is fully harshed, as Johnson would say. And
Speaker 1: I decided to use those frequent flyer miles to fish
Speaker 1: in places that actually still have fish to catch. You know,
Speaker 1: I know, and I can't I can't actually blame you.
Speaker 1: The truth is I haven't fished for steel in in years,
Speaker 1: partially because I gotta go a long way to catch
Speaker 1: him from here, and partially because it's tough for me
Speaker 1: to justify messing with the few they're still around. Like
Speaker 1: I do feel some level of guilt. That's not a
Speaker 1: judgment on the people who want to do it. Those
Speaker 1: fish need advocates, but for me, it just kind of
Speaker 1: feels like, oh, I should probably let those ones. Yeah
Speaker 1: I get that, well, Yeah, that he that that sucker
Speaker 1: worked all, you know, for so long to get up
Speaker 1: through all those damns, Like, just let him do his
Speaker 1: thing now, Like I kind of get that, particularly you
Speaker 1: in top of those Idaho fish man, they've come a
Speaker 1: long way, and that's that's the to me, you know.
Speaker 1: But anyway, we will. We will keep all of you
Speaker 1: up to date on the state of steelhead here at
Speaker 1: bent as Uh as new ship comes to late Man.
Speaker 1: The truth, Joe is that I've actually never caught a
Speaker 1: Great Lake steel head. We could fix that. Well, we
Speaker 1: probably should, you know. Not that long ago both of
Speaker 1: us were actually over in the Midwest working on a
Speaker 1: little project for for mediator fishing, and even though we
Speaker 1: missed the steelhead season, we did we did catch some
Speaker 1: other species. Yeah, hopefully some of you out there have
Speaker 1: heard of doss Boat, where we take a beat up
Speaker 1: old boat, make interesting people accustomed too much nicer boats,
Speaker 1: take it out in questionable circumstances, film the whole thing
Speaker 1: and call it a fishing show. And one of those
Speaker 1: interesting people as a guy, you might be familiar with
Speaker 1: our boss, Steven Ranella. Steve's here today to talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about the history of doss Boat too, also
Speaker 1: known as dose Boat. In our first installment of who
Speaker 1: was on the boat? Never get out of the boat?
Speaker 1: Absolutely goddamn right. Okay, when you're watching doss Boat season two,
Speaker 1: dose Boat, you're gonna see old green vent three StarCraft
Speaker 1: bass master. Now, first off, you look at this boat
Speaker 1: and you'll think this boat has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: mastering bass. It's not like a contemporary bass boat. The boat.
Speaker 1: Here's the story of the boat. When I grew up,
Speaker 1: my mom still lives in the house I grew up in.
Speaker 1: But as I was growing up, if I looked out
Speaker 1: my bedroom window towards the lake that I grew up
Speaker 1: fishing on, lookers right, A couple of houses down is
Speaker 1: the house this old dude named John Gary. And John
Speaker 1: Gary was our fishing mentor when we were kids, meaning
Speaker 1: if my dad was gone. Pust John here is a
Speaker 1: lot nicer than our dad. So maybe if our dad
Speaker 1: was home and your fishing rod got tangled up, or
Speaker 1: you needed a bomber or you had a you know,
Speaker 1: hooking your finger or whatever, you could run down the
Speaker 1: beach to John Garry's and you'd be able to find
Speaker 1: him anywhere. From like ten in the morning on. He'd
Speaker 1: be fishing, and then he'd be home cleaning fish, drinking
Speaker 1: vodka whatever. He's just always there and he had all
Speaker 1: kinds of tackle, and he'd always get your stuff fixed
Speaker 1: up and squared away. And he always had this boat.
Speaker 1: I was born in seventy four and he bought his
Speaker 1: boat in seventy three. The boat still has all the
Speaker 1: registration stickers on it going back to the beginning, just
Speaker 1: s lined up in his long line and four year increments.
Speaker 1: And John Gary he also he kept his boat on
Speaker 1: one of those haulouts, and his driveway was a boat
Speaker 1: launch and he just fished his ass off for everything
Speaker 1: on the planet. Sixteen foot boat. He's a troll for
Speaker 1: salmon out in the Great Lakes with down riggers. He
Speaker 1: did everything. He's mostly a panfish specialist. When he died,
Speaker 1: this boat came to live outside of my mom pull
Speaker 1: barn and a lean to my mom's pull barn and
Speaker 1: sat there full of garbage, you know, for a lot
Speaker 1: of years now. So the story of this season is refurbishing,
Speaker 1: getting his boat back on the water, and getting to
Speaker 1: back out fishing around a lot of John Gary's old
Speaker 1: haunts in the Midwest. So it was pretty touching for
Speaker 1: me because I loved John so much and have so
Speaker 1: many fond memories of him and how fussy he was
Speaker 1: about his boat, and growing up thinking how great his
Speaker 1: boat was, and Everybody's like, John Gary's got such a
Speaker 1: nice boat, and everybody wanted to fish on John's boat.
Speaker 1: And then now you look at John's boat and it's
Speaker 1: like just looks like this little teeny old luminum boat.
Speaker 1: But my God, could catch a lot of fish out
Speaker 1: of a boat like that. So that's what you're gonna
Speaker 1: see when you tune in. You'll be uh elbow deep,
Speaker 1: armpit deep, neck deep, and nostalgia as we track around
Speaker 1: the Midwest and John Gary's boat. Check out Steve, Janice,
Speaker 1: cal Joe, Me, and a whole cast of other miscreants
Speaker 1: on the New season of Doss Boat available at the
Speaker 1: Meat Eater dot com. And while you're there, catch up
Speaker 1: on season one. It's good, it's worth your time. All right,
Speaker 1: that's probably enough self promotion for one episode. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about a business we have absolutely no stake in whatsoever.
Speaker 1: It's time for that's my bar, where we read a
Speaker 1: plug from one of you degenerates about your favorite fishing bar.
Speaker 1: You guys have been really we've been impressed. You've been
Speaker 1: sending us tons of good stuff, so it's good. Please
Speaker 1: keep your bar nominations coming. And this week's shout out
Speaker 1: comes from our very good friend and regular guest angler,
Speaker 1: not only on doss Boat, but also here on bann
Speaker 1: Aretti Frank Smithhurst, best god damn bar tender from tim
Speaker 1: buck to to Portland, Maine. The Portland argument. For that matter,
Speaker 1: Colorado is a great fishing state. Lots of people say
Speaker 1: so because I live in Montana. I'd be kind of
Speaker 1: an idiot to make a full day's drive to fish
Speaker 1: for Rocky Mountain trout when I can do that in
Speaker 1: my backyard. But I realized the state. John Denver serenaded
Speaker 1: about his trout famous for a reason. Though I haven't
Speaker 1: fished there much actually have done a pretty good bit
Speaker 1: of drinking during my limited time in Colorado. On a
Speaker 1: trip through Boulder when I was like twenty one, a
Speaker 1: friend introduced me to the red bomb. For those of
Speaker 1: you who are fortunate enough to have no idea what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, a red bomb is a shot of
Speaker 1: yeager nestled into a four ounce pour of red bull. Nothing,
Speaker 1: and I mean nothing encourages mature and responsible behavior like
Speaker 1: a group of barely legal drinkers combining hard alcohol with
Speaker 1: lots of sugar and caffeine. Suffice to say, questionable choices ensued,
Speaker 1: and I've been a little wary of drinking in the
Speaker 1: Mile High State ever since. My good friend Frank smith
Speaker 1: Hurst has been trying to convince me to reconsider his
Speaker 1: home states fishing and drinking opportunity for years. To that end,
Speaker 1: he recently wrote this recommendation for his favorite color Atto
Speaker 1: fishing bar. Though it has been renamed the Riverside Bar
Speaker 1: and Grill, everybody calls the place the Rainbow. Back in
Speaker 1: the seventies, The Rainbow was founded in Basalt, Colorado. It's
Speaker 1: right next to the fly Shop also known as Taylor Creek,
Speaker 1: and its outdoor deck hangs over the frying pan river.
Speaker 1: You can even feed the fish and they like fries
Speaker 1: The places wall to wall, anglers, guides, clients, and colorful
Speaker 1: folks fresh off a trip to the pan, likely warming
Speaker 1: back up with the toddy and fish tacos even on
Speaker 1: the snowiest day of winter. Thank you Frank for your submission.
Speaker 1: We will add The Rainbow to our list of top
Speaker 1: tier fishing bars. My only question is have you tried
Speaker 1: feeding fish tacos to the pet trout? Because I know
Speaker 1: I would. Thanks to all of you who have written
Speaker 1: to tell us about your favorite drinking establishments with a
Speaker 1: fishing problem. We have many, many, many more to come.
Speaker 1: But if you have a bar that you think we
Speaker 1: should shout out, let us know, absolutely send an email
Speaker 1: to bent at the Meat Eat your dot com and
Speaker 1: try to give us like a compelling paragraph that really
Speaker 1: sells the place. Now if you were you know, if
Speaker 1: it's been like I like, I like Mike's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it sounds cool. Haven't gotten a few of those like
Speaker 1: you go to bills bills is good. You gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta kind of tell us why it's so good, you know,
Speaker 1: just just a little bit we don't, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't need to write a novel, um, you know, and
Speaker 1: we're not really sure what we're gonna do with all
Speaker 1: these Maybe we'll make like an interactive heat map like
Speaker 1: they do for the RNA outbreaks, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like how much rona is in your county, how many
Speaker 1: cool fishing bars are in your county? Swipe right, um.
Speaker 1: But we'll keep you up to date on all happenings
Speaker 1: in the fishing bar scene here at bet Yes we will.
Speaker 1: That is one of our favorite scenes to uh stay
Speaker 1: abreast up and you know, considering that part of our
Speaker 1: job is keeping you up to date, it's time for
Speaker 1: fish news. Fish news. That escalated quick quick reminder. It's
Speaker 1: a competition, Miles and I have no idea which news
Speaker 1: stories the other dude is bringing to the table. That's
Speaker 1: kind of how this game goes. And if you've been
Speaker 1: following along, we now have our masterful engineer Phil at
Speaker 1: the end of every news segment to weigh in on
Speaker 1: who one news this week? And I have been doing
Speaker 1: well and that is because I send Phil Radio Shack
Speaker 1: gift cards. I was wondering what it was. I knew
Speaker 1: there was some kind of deal you guys had going
Speaker 1: to the back end. He's a podcast engineer. I figured
Speaker 1: he must spend a lot of time in radio shack,
Speaker 1: so those will come in handy. I've gotta I've got
Speaker 1: to I gotta figure out my bribery game. Man. My
Speaker 1: bribery game apparently sucks. But but this could be your
Speaker 1: week to shine. Uh. You get to lead off, and
Speaker 1: that's always, that's always. I got to lead off. Spot
Speaker 1: in case we both found the same thing, maybe I
Speaker 1: can leave you high and dry. We'll see. Bring it on, man,
Speaker 1: All right, there we go. For those of you out
Speaker 1: there who have been paying attention to fish News, not
Speaker 1: just you know, sleeping through it like like you do class,
Speaker 1: you'll know that we love shark stories because I mean sharks.
Speaker 1: Remember the shark stories were also partial to phish science
Speaker 1: and evolution and any chance that we can find to
Speaker 1: make fun of shark week. Well, I have a story
Speaker 1: that combines all three of those topics. I'm definitely pandering
Speaker 1: here because last week research was published about the largest
Speaker 1: shark ever to swim on this planet, at least as
Speaker 1: far as we know, the Megalodon or meg as the
Speaker 1: kids seem to be calling it and or as that
Speaker 1: movie that nobody went to see was called. Oh don't worry,
Speaker 1: we'll get to that movie. We're gonna throw some meg
Speaker 1: in there. Oh yes, be patient, alright, alright. Megalodon has
Speaker 1: been the subject of significant attention and debate, both in
Speaker 1: paleontology and pop culture. Researchers are pre de confident that
Speaker 1: Megalodon lived from about twenty million years ago until about
Speaker 1: three and a half million years ago, and that it
Speaker 1: was the biggest, baddest marine predator around. Megalodon evolved alongside whales,
Speaker 1: which were probably its primary food source. So picture a whale,
Speaker 1: like a humpback whale, and now think about now, think
Speaker 1: about a shark that would hunt whales and potentially be
Speaker 1: capable of biting one in half. And that's megalodon. All right,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a great image. Oh I've I've personally
Speaker 1: visited that famous Magleodon jaw set hanging in the Smithsonian.
Speaker 1: I believe it is it is. As a child, I
Speaker 1: saw lots of pictures. Yeah, And even though researchers have
Speaker 1: been able to figure out that much, they have not
Speaker 1: been able to agree on how big Megalodon actually was
Speaker 1: because the problem is that sharks, unlike dinosaurs or other
Speaker 1: large extinct land animals, have cartilaginous skeletons. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: not made of solid bones. They don't fossilize very well.
Speaker 1: The only evidence of Megalodon found intact have been a
Speaker 1: few scattered vertebrae and more importantly, their teeth, which are
Speaker 1: more than seven inches long. So scientists have been comparing
Speaker 1: those teeth with other living sharks and trying to extrapolate
Speaker 1: from there, but it's it's been kind of a problem.
Speaker 1: Size estimates have ranged from twenty five to eight ft
Speaker 1: and you know, that's a pretty big difference. Like they're
Speaker 1: they're they're they're not even close. Yeah exactly. But just
Speaker 1: this last week, new research from the University of Bristol
Speaker 1: claims to have figured this problem out, and they came
Speaker 1: up with an estimated length of about fifty feet, which
Speaker 1: would make Megalodon more than double the size of a
Speaker 1: great white shark with a dorsal fin more than five
Speaker 1: ft high. That's a big gass shark. Kay, that's frightening.
Speaker 1: And there's you know, there's people on this planet right
Speaker 1: now that still believe there are some out there. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: just just just hang with me here, Okay, I'll stop talking. No,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Your your your mind works the same
Speaker 1: way mind does, and I appreciate that. So so these
Speaker 1: are these were some big sharks, and that is like,
Speaker 1: that's some interesting research. But really, like, we wouldn't care
Speaker 1: about this if we were talking about a giant seal
Speaker 1: or a giant sloth or really any other extinct creature.
Speaker 1: This is only a story because we have this cultural
Speaker 1: obsession with sharks, and particularly with big sharks, and it
Speaker 1: kind of pisces me off. It kind of annoys me.
Speaker 1: How pop culture has just glommed onto the magalodon. Right
Speaker 1: because after after the Jaws franchise ran out of steam
Speaker 1: and Shark Nado turned the whole genre into a punchline,
Speaker 1: shark horror filmmakers had to get pretty creative. So that
Speaker 1: led to, just as you were thinking, the movie the
Speaker 1: Megen And for those of you who are not up
Speaker 1: on your terrible be movies, here's a quick rundown. Jason
Speaker 1: Street them is a rescue diver who threw an overcomplicated
Speaker 1: plot releases a few megaloton that were somehow trapped in
Speaker 1: the Mariana Trench for the past couple of million years.
Speaker 1: I don't really know, but one of them then goes
Speaker 1: on a killing spirit of crowded Beach in China before
Speaker 1: Stratham saved the day. There you go, I just saved
Speaker 1: you a few hours. You're welcome and that is that
Speaker 1: movie was. And then Dwight Shrewt is his side Yes,
Speaker 1: Dwight shoot is the sidekick. Yeah. So I just will
Speaker 1: go on record and say when the previews dropped, just
Speaker 1: for the hell of it, because I'm such a Jaws fan.
Speaker 1: I had every intention of seeing it in Imax, just
Speaker 1: because like I have to, because I'm a shark movie guy.
Speaker 1: And then I never got around to it. I have
Speaker 1: still never seen the meg From what I can do,
Speaker 1: I haven't either, but I had to research it for this,
Speaker 1: and I think you're glad you didn't, and I just
Speaker 1: gave you the whole plot, so you're done. It's fine.
Speaker 1: And as bad as that movie sounds like it was,
Speaker 1: and according to the reviews, it was really bad. That
Speaker 1: plot it actually mirrors and this is getting to your
Speaker 1: your belief like the fact that some people still believe
Speaker 1: there around that plot mirrors. A fake documentary that aired
Speaker 1: several years ago on Shark Week. And notice I did
Speaker 1: not say mockumentary. This isn't like an intentional we're making
Speaker 1: a joke. Fake. I said fake documentary, as in a
Speaker 1: totally bogus film that tried to pass itself off as legitimate.
Speaker 1: So they got Yeah, they kind of got in trouble
Speaker 1: and not trying to say trouble, but they caught a
Speaker 1: lot of flak because there's a there's a famous image
Speaker 1: from that documentary. It's like a coastguard extraction. Like there's
Speaker 1: a dude hanging off a ladder, off a chopper and
Speaker 1: like under the water you see this shadow and this
Speaker 1: was Uh. They did this after they did the same
Speaker 1: thing with the Killer Mermaids documentary, remember that one, And
Speaker 1: then they did I also found this out. It wasn't
Speaker 1: in what I wrote up, But they did one another
Speaker 1: fake documentary of what might have happened if the Mermaids
Speaker 1: and the Megalodon fought. Yes, that's the one, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna pick one. But in the one that I'm we're referencing,
Speaker 1: just for everybody ever knows, it's called Megalodon Monster Shark
Speaker 1: Lives and the ever creative Shark Week brain Trust claimed
Speaker 1: they had evidence that Megalodon might not be extinct. After all,
Speaker 1: we just hadn't noticed a giant shark ever. And they
Speaker 1: paraded through a series of quote unquote scientists, but all
Speaker 1: the scientists in that film Joe actors reading a script totally,
Speaker 1: and none of it was true. It's the same thing,
Speaker 1: you know with the Mermaids. And you know, people have
Speaker 1: loved to cling to the sela canth like they're always like, well,
Speaker 1: there's an example of a fish that we thought was
Speaker 1: extinct and it wasn't. Fine, I get that, but I mean,
Speaker 1: for how many generations was the or fish a sea
Speaker 1: monster of mythology? The giant squid? Does that really exist? Well,
Speaker 1: we've found all that stuff since. And even though they
Speaker 1: say the ocean is we we know more about outer
Speaker 1: space than the ocean. Dude, if there was a mega
Speaker 1: or several out there, one would have washed up in
Speaker 1: Fiji or wherever this ship washes up by. Now, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't believe it's out there. It's definitely not.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, let's just it's not. It's not a thing. Okay. Agree.
Speaker 1: People like to point to the mega mouth shark too,
Speaker 1: But one of the major differences here is that those
Speaker 1: fish actually or shark excuse me, did live in very
Speaker 1: very very deep water where we can't go. All the
Speaker 1: evidence of Megalodon is that it was actually a shallow
Speaker 1: water predator. So we would have found it. Uh, we
Speaker 1: would have found it. And and fun little fact that
Speaker 1: I hadn't put in there, the the state fossil of
Speaker 1: North Carolina is the Megalodon tooth. Okay, two things. They're
Speaker 1: the mega mouth shark was always included in my shark
Speaker 1: coloring books as a young kid, and I never colored
Speaker 1: it because I'm like, that's a lame shark. It looks
Speaker 1: it looks like a bluga whale, it has no teeth.
Speaker 1: So I was never into the mega mouth. But it's
Speaker 1: funny you say that about North Carolina state fossil being
Speaker 1: the Megleton tooth. That is a dream of mine. And
Speaker 1: I I know a handful of people that live some
Speaker 1: in Florida, some in the Carolina is specifically, if you
Speaker 1: know where to look, it's not that uncommon find megletus.
Speaker 1: That's what they do. Yeah. And in fact, one of
Speaker 1: the old editors at one of the old magazines I
Speaker 1: worked for when he was younger, he was a mate
Speaker 1: on a party boat. I think it was in Georgia
Speaker 1: and there was a spot out there that was known
Speaker 1: for him, and like people would snag a bunch of
Speaker 1: seaweed on the party boat and bring it up and
Speaker 1: there'd be a freaking full meg tooth like glued to
Speaker 1: the seaweed that he had one. I'm like, God, I
Speaker 1: want that, and that's like that's my dream. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I like I said, I know folks who do it,
Speaker 1: and we're getting way off off script here, but I
Speaker 1: I have also wanted to do a but the guy
Speaker 1: who I know who's serious about it, like his mentor
Speaker 1: who taught him how to do it, died diving for
Speaker 1: those teeth, So it's it comes with some risk. I'll
Speaker 1: just say that. It's not like, oh, you just dive
Speaker 1: down and grab some some giant shark teeth. Here we go.
Speaker 1: But to get back to my initial point, like I'm
Speaker 1: annoyed about the fake documentary and people just kind of
Speaker 1: like trying to play up this this megalodon thing because
Speaker 1: we're just selling people on the fear of a creature
Speaker 1: that a has not existed in millions of years, and
Speaker 1: be it ain't whales, not people, not you, this is
Speaker 1: not a thing that's like hunting. You it ate whales.
Speaker 1: You were not even a cheeto. Yeah, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: you're not even like a poppy seed in the damn
Speaker 1: things teeth. But having said that, if if you are
Speaker 1: one of those folks who just loves the shark horror genre,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you Joe, I got good news. The rumor,
Speaker 1: the rumor mill has it that Meg two the trench
Speaker 1: is in development. So there's another coming. I'll have to
Speaker 1: get caught up. That's yeah, I'll get caught up. All right.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a good segue here. We'll
Speaker 1: go from the from sharks that don't exist to getting
Speaker 1: in trouble on Instagram. There's a ship. Say if it
Speaker 1: still is factoring segues? And I just lost today because
Speaker 1: that was total brain for anyway. Look, here's a classic
Speaker 1: tale about how the inability of many fishermen to simply
Speaker 1: keep their mouth shut and photos to themselves can swing
Speaker 1: around and bite you in the ass. And this comes
Speaker 1: from the Miami Herald headline. He caught a big fish
Speaker 1: near Key West, but he went to jail after bragging
Speaker 1: about it. And this is the story, and this is
Speaker 1: the story of Joshua David and Zesky, eighteen years old,
Speaker 1: and says he was jailed after State Fish and Wildlife
Speaker 1: officers said he removed a goliath grouper from the water
Speaker 1: so he could pose for a to with it. He
Speaker 1: was arrested on a misdemeanor charge of possession of a
Speaker 1: goliath grouper, booked into the Stock Island Attention Center, and
Speaker 1: released the same day after posting a seventy five hundred
Speaker 1: dollar bond. Now, to catch you guys up in case
Speaker 1: you are not familiar, goliath grouper have been protected in
Speaker 1: the US since which means harvest and possession of these species.
Speaker 1: It's it's completely outlawed um. And this also explains I'm
Speaker 1: sure you guys have seen this. When you see somebody
Speaker 1: posing with a goliath grouper, the fish is usually boat side, right,
Speaker 1: it's still in the water. Or the even cooler thing
Speaker 1: to do now is jump in the water with your
Speaker 1: goliath grouper c as it catches his breath yep, and
Speaker 1: then you get splashed as it kicks away, and then
Speaker 1: you get a ton of uh comments when you post
Speaker 1: that video on your Instagram account and all of that
Speaker 1: is perfectly okay, right, Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission says
Speaker 1: it's okay to snap some picks with your goliath as
Speaker 1: long as it doesn't get in the way of a fast,
Speaker 1: healthy release. But young Mr Anzeski just made so many
Speaker 1: wrong terms. He just he strayed so far, and I
Speaker 1: kind of don't feel bad for him. So if you're
Speaker 1: out there thinking like, come on, man, you know, give
Speaker 1: the kid a break. He was proud of his fish,
Speaker 1: all right, listen and I read on. Anazeski said he
Speaker 1: caught the twenty pound juvenile in the lagoon on the
Speaker 1: campus of the College of the Florida Keys on Stock Island.
Speaker 1: According to the rest the arrest report by f w C,
Speaker 1: the lagoon where the goliath came from is the college's
Speaker 1: dive training lagoon, and there are signs posted there that
Speaker 1: indicate fishing is prohibited. The lagoon is a classroom space
Speaker 1: where we teach diving in marine science classes, said Amber
Speaker 1: Ernst Leonard, the colleges spokeswoman. It is filled with wildlife
Speaker 1: that we value and respect. So I read that as
Speaker 1: kind of like aquarium, which means lame move bro. That's like,
Speaker 1: that's strike two. All right, that's yeah, that's lame, okay, um.
Speaker 1: And the story goes on to say Anisky said he
Speaker 1: caught the fish, took it out of the water, and
Speaker 1: was quote messing around with it. F w C said,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's like such a teenager thing, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you get picked. We're just messing around, man.
Speaker 1: He removed the hook from its mouth before taking the photo,
Speaker 1: and the police said it's a problem that Annazeski took
Speaker 1: the fish from the water and traveled at least a
Speaker 1: hundred feet from where he car take the photo. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I saw the picture online that it's just
Speaker 1: like a dorm room building behind It's it's a totally
Speaker 1: okay you know what. I was like, Bro, I gotta
Speaker 1: show my roommate this. Yes, you don't believe what I
Speaker 1: just called. Out of the aquarium out front, he can't
Speaker 1: really tell what's behind him, but it's like it's like
Speaker 1: the building that would be at a community pool or
Speaker 1: something like the locker room building. Um, you know. But
Speaker 1: now here's the funny thing. Right. You might assume he
Speaker 1: got pinched because he posted his catch on social Nope,
Speaker 1: he was smart enough, I guess to not do that.
Speaker 1: But he did send the shot in a group text
Speaker 1: to a bunch of buddies to brag about it, and
Speaker 1: one of them, clearly it was a person Josh piste
Speaker 1: Off because they snitched. One person on that group text
Speaker 1: sent that shot to F. W. C Um. And you know,
Speaker 1: a few thoughts on this first, what's jail like on
Speaker 1: stock Island? And the keys? You know, the keys are
Speaker 1: like such a happy, carefree, relaxing environment. Are there poorly
Speaker 1: done fish murals in the cells like on every other
Speaker 1: building down there? Leaping ma he he's and smiling sea turtles?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's probably not that different from Duvall Street
Speaker 1: after bar closed time, Like I would assume it's the
Speaker 1: same cast of characters. They're just a little bit more
Speaker 1: penned in, shall we say? Yeah, it's probably pretty rowdy.
Speaker 1: You're right, I've seen some rowdy stuff down there. I
Speaker 1: just always wonder, it's like, what's jail like in Paradise? Maybe?
Speaker 1: I bet it's hot, That's what I'm gonna bet. I
Speaker 1: bet it's really hot and sticky. Probably probably, so, you know,
Speaker 1: I will say, bad move, okay. Even before he caught
Speaker 1: the group er just fishing in the training lagoon, However,
Speaker 1: I have to admit I did something similar one time,
Speaker 1: but completely unknowingly, and this was a truly innocent mistake.
Speaker 1: But I went to a Ruba for spring break one year,
Speaker 1: which is a terrible island. So if you're an angler
Speaker 1: considering a Ruba for a fishing destination, stop considering it.
Speaker 1: And anyway, this resort were at had this private island
Speaker 1: with these little boats that would run guests out to
Speaker 1: the island to lay on the beach, and they had
Speaker 1: their tennis courts and all that junk out there, but
Speaker 1: they left one end of the island wild and scenic
Speaker 1: so you could do nature walks and junk. So one
Speaker 1: morning I catched the first boat out six am. Super
Speaker 1: there's like super hot Danish girls on the boat or
Speaker 1: whoever whatever country owns a Ruba and like me, the
Speaker 1: dork with like the rods and the flats booties, and
Speaker 1: I'm making my way to the end of the island.
Speaker 1: I spot this monster barracuda in a little lagoon and
Speaker 1: I cast at him. He bites, he cuts me off,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, I'll fix your ass, dude, And I
Speaker 1: put wire on and metal and uh, I'm just about
Speaker 1: to cast and around the corner comes the first nature
Speaker 1: tour group of the morning, which I did not know
Speaker 1: they had, and the tour guide is like, over here
Speaker 1: you'll see Charlie, our resident. And there I am standing
Speaker 1: there with a rod on a little bridge, and thank
Speaker 1: god I didn't cast because Charlie was angry that morning. Dude,
Speaker 1: forty five seconds later, I would have had Charlie shaken
Speaker 1: on a bow cari if they would have got a
Speaker 1: real good look at Charlie. But I just ran away
Speaker 1: and didn't bother fishing anymore than the rest of the time.
Speaker 1: You got lucky. They're very smart. I mean, there are
Speaker 1: so many different stories that we could go through of
Speaker 1: people getting pinched, particularly in our media space, for just
Speaker 1: not being able to keep themselves from casting at that fish.
Speaker 1: But they know they shouldn't. It happens all the time.
Speaker 1: So hopefully lesson learned their kid, you know, take your lumps.
Speaker 1: But like you know, you don't have to fish in
Speaker 1: the dive pool. You know, there's a million bridges down there.
Speaker 1: Like fishing at the bridge, dude, any any other place,
Speaker 1: any other place, and I'm gonna I'm gonna move us
Speaker 1: away from illicit fish toward fish that we should really embrace,
Speaker 1: fish that we should should should celebrate really for for
Speaker 1: reasons that have nothing to do with their sport. And
Speaker 1: on this one, I've really just I've got great news
Speaker 1: for you. I picked the story because I care about you, Joe,
Speaker 1: That's really Yeah. I'm listening a little harder now, I'm
Speaker 1: just a little I'm hoping. I'm hoping that, like, when
Speaker 1: I do this, you'll feel just a little bit better
Speaker 1: about your own life choices. All right, Wow, so you're
Speaker 1: I know you have a you eat fish like me,
Speaker 1: we're fish eaters, and and your regular fish consumption habit
Speaker 1: might just be helping to counteract the fact that where
Speaker 1: you live is killing your brain. That's right, Yeah, consuming
Speaker 1: fish flesh may help prevent the brain shrinkage that can
Speaker 1: come from living on the edge of a city and
Speaker 1: huffing air pollution. It means, dude, you could you can
Speaker 1: stay in Philly. Dude, you can move to Trenton if
Speaker 1: you want. And as long as you eat fish or
Speaker 1: shellfish at least three times a week, all that airborne
Speaker 1: toxicity might not dissolve your white matter and hippocampus. I
Speaker 1: practically live almost equidistant between Trenton and Philly, and I
Speaker 1: actually lived directly under the power lines that connect them both.
Speaker 1: See they run right over the home. So this is
Speaker 1: good information, This is good news for you. I did,
Speaker 1: I really did pick this for you. A study from
Speaker 1: the American Academy of Neurology, which seems very legit, collected
Speaker 1: information on fish consumption habits of people who live in
Speaker 1: areas with air pollution, then scanned their brains and found
Speaker 1: that regular fish eaters have an advantage over those who
Speaker 1: skip the watery meats. And we've known for a long
Speaker 1: time that that Omega three, the acids, and fish are
Speaker 1: good for brain health and they fight inflammation that we've
Speaker 1: we've known that that's not new, But this study specifically
Speaker 1: looked at one of the known impacts of air pollution,
Speaker 1: which I didn't know. This is an actual shrinking of
Speaker 1: certain parts of the brain associated with memory and neural response.
Speaker 1: So while eating fish won't actually make you smarter, it
Speaker 1: might keep you from getting dumber. And that's something we
Speaker 1: could all use. Really. I mean, I feeled my own
Speaker 1: shrinkage coming on, and I would like to fight it
Speaker 1: in any way I can. But before we get too excited.
Speaker 1: I gotta say the study has a few limitations. All
Speaker 1: the participants were older, white women, so it may or
Speaker 1: may not translate to you and me, Joe. Also, since
Speaker 1: this research only looked at exposure later in life, we
Speaker 1: can't say for sure that feeding your kids fish will
Speaker 1: protect them from air pollution. But my main gripe with
Speaker 1: this study, and this is just a personal thing, The
Speaker 1: main thing that kind of pisces me off is that
Speaker 1: they completely discounted fried fish. Of fried fish did not count.
Speaker 1: Oh so if you yeah, that means because you drop
Speaker 1: it in the deep, yeah, would you count it? May
Speaker 1: or may not be protecting my brain. We don't know,
Speaker 1: because they like eliminated that as a variable from the study.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, go back, redo this study, but keep
Speaker 1: the fried fish in because I want to know if
Speaker 1: the fried fish helps or not. What was it all steamed?
Speaker 1: Like what do you gotta do? It was all it
Speaker 1: was baked, broiled or yeah, or or boiled. I assume,
Speaker 1: so no pickles, no onions, no fun and fried like
Speaker 1: I think it was only deep fried, like pan fried, cool,
Speaker 1: deep fried, You're out the way I pan fry fish.
Speaker 1: The amount of butter that would would be cool. Well
Speaker 1: that's kind of that's kind of a bummer. It's like
Speaker 1: there's people who are like, well, potatoes are a great
Speaker 1: source of iron or whatever. Yeah, the skin, but like
Speaker 1: the middle will just make you fatter. Just sugar, so
Speaker 1: just so just deep potato skins then yeah, if they're
Speaker 1: not fried and covered in cheese, sure, but who eats
Speaker 1: potato skins aren't fried and covered in cheese. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I hate to admit it, but I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: in the minority here. Like literally, just just last week,
Speaker 1: I came home with huge bags of mahi mahi filets,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna eat some fresh the night after the trip.
Speaker 1: And it's like I spend all day like coming up
Speaker 1: with like what interesting new things can I do with this?
Speaker 1: And then like the kids get crazy and like dinner's
Speaker 1: gotta get made, and I'm like, just fry the ship
Speaker 1: because that's really what I want. Anyway, It's gonna be
Speaker 1: the I want lemon and old bay and deep fried
Speaker 1: and maybe a dash of tartar sauce. So that's actually
Speaker 1: what I want. American Academy Neurology, please redo this study.
Speaker 1: Maybe expand your sample size and look at the fried
Speaker 1: fish just for us, like, just just let us know
Speaker 1: how that goes. So all right, this is great. This
Speaker 1: is a good segue. Speaking of fried fish, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: help you guys get more of those yourself in the
Speaker 1: digital realm. So follow with me here because this next story, gosh, darna,
Speaker 1: I still can't decide how I feel about it. It's
Speaker 1: either the worst idea or it has the potential to
Speaker 1: be the next big thing. I don't know. But this
Speaker 1: comes from CBC Canada and the headline of the story
Speaker 1: is video game developer from Norway hopes to lower players
Speaker 1: with fishing simulation set in Nova Scotia. Okay, now here
Speaker 1: we go. So when a Norwegian company needed help testing
Speaker 1: its new video simulation game, Fishing North Atlantic, one of
Speaker 1: the people that turned to was sixteen year old honor
Speaker 1: student from a tiny fishing port in eastern Nova Scotia.
Speaker 1: Because Dakota Keith knows video games, but he also spent
Speaker 1: two months on the back of a lobster boat this
Speaker 1: season fishing with his father and grandfather out of Little Dover,
Speaker 1: near Canso on the province's eastern shore. Keith helped identify
Speaker 1: bugs in the game while it was in development earlier
Speaker 1: this year. Now he's one of the first to play
Speaker 1: the latest version, weeks ahead of official release, and Keith says,
Speaker 1: you could play the game and you could learn a
Speaker 1: lot about all the different ports and how we fish here,
Speaker 1: he said from the gaming desk in his bedroom. Now
Speaker 1: I'm gonna skip ahead. Just what everybody wants out of
Speaker 1: a fishing games are wait, wait, wait wait. So just
Speaker 1: a quick note here that it took Keith six hours
Speaker 1: to download the latest version of this game in the
Speaker 1: rural town in which he lives, and I looked up
Speaker 1: Canco to confirm that yes, in fact, there is nothing there.
Speaker 1: So it does not surprise me, uh that when Dakota
Speaker 1: isn't lobstering, he's gaming because pro Google maps. Other options
Speaker 1: include walking the Chapel Gully trail, driving down Marine Drive,
Speaker 1: or visiting one of three lighthouses. Could not find the
Speaker 1: David Busters on the map in Canco, all right, so
Speaker 1: I'll continue on here. In the game, players start with
Speaker 1: a small boat harpooning swordfish in three kilometers of water
Speaker 1: off of southern Nova, Scotia. As they land and sell
Speaker 1: their catch at any one of five area ports. They
Speaker 1: work their way up to progressively larger vessels, including lobster
Speaker 1: boats and finally a factory freezer trawler for Nova Scotia audiences.
Speaker 1: It features realistic waterfronts and familiar landmarks in Lunenburg, Lockport,
Speaker 1: Yarmouth and Digby, and to a lesser degree, Dennis Point
Speaker 1: in Lower Publico, although the warp side Dennis Point Cafe
Speaker 1: is identifiable. Dakota says, since I was a kid playing games,
Speaker 1: I always wanted something that we do. It's the only
Speaker 1: thing that has anything to do with fishing on a
Speaker 1: commercial scale anyway. It's great to be recognized as the
Speaker 1: province in a game doing what we do here. And
Speaker 1: I guess I sympathize with that. Growing up in so
Speaker 1: I I had imagined Tony Hawk's pro skater doesn't really
Speaker 1: speak to you, write paper Boy, they probably don't have
Speaker 1: one of those. Even to that end, like the Rapple
Speaker 1: of Fishing game on PlayStation. I mean, this kid didn't
Speaker 1: grow up with Shaw Griggsby and a used bass tracker.
Speaker 1: You know, he had a dory, a south Western Hattan
Speaker 1: corn cob pipe. You know, I I hear you, But like,
Speaker 1: did you grow up in some like creepy world full
Speaker 1: of magic mushrooms and giant green ogre's named Kopa's Like no,
Speaker 1: the part of the fun of gaming is that you
Speaker 1: get out of the real experience and into a world
Speaker 1: actually existed. This would be like I was playing a
Speaker 1: video game called editing Fishing Stories. There's a reason why
Speaker 1: people commercial fish for work, not for fun, Like I.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of commercial fishermen and and a
Speaker 1: none of them are like, man, you know what I
Speaker 1: wish I could be doing when I'm not out on
Speaker 1: the boat hauling in thousand pound nets playing a game
Speaker 1: out on the boat hauling in thousand pound nets and
Speaker 1: never sleeping. But wait, here's the clincher, right. The maker
Speaker 1: of this game, Hamma Crew, totally sees this going worldwide
Speaker 1: and plans to expand fishing locations within the game to
Speaker 1: the US and Japan. And the way I look at it,
Speaker 1: Japan has to be like the last level, right, because
Speaker 1: there's just nothing left. So like, once you've sold the
Speaker 1: final tuning, you need to catch in the US to
Speaker 1: the Japanese. The digital Japanese buyer gives you the code
Speaker 1: to get to Japan, where you have to catch exactly
Speaker 1: one fish of any size to be crowned. Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: you could you under spend. You're just you're just hunting
Speaker 1: whales at that point, Like that's that's that's the the
Speaker 1: final level of that game is like you're hunting whales
Speaker 1: and you're trying to dodge the c shepherd that's coming
Speaker 1: to kill you. Okay, all right, that's that's play. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: And in the beginning I said I might be wrong, right,
Speaker 1: because I don't know, dude. Maybe like it's like battle
Speaker 1: Ship or Strtigo. Maybe commercial fishing works. People still play
Speaker 1: mind Sweeper. Remember Rolling Coaster Tycoon was the bomb the
Speaker 1: sims and these are games and a lot of people
Speaker 1: like me, you know, scoff tapp but people got sucked into.
Speaker 1: So maybe it works somehow more as a game of strategy,
Speaker 1: because obviously it can't be riveting gameplay. It kind of
Speaker 1: like how people like flight simulators. But I will say
Speaker 1: to the game developer log when you when you come
Speaker 1: up with the US level, look basing it off. Wicked
Speaker 1: Tuna might work, but the Swordfish, Life on the Line,
Speaker 1: Pacific Crabbers, and that main Lobsterman show all tanked. All
Speaker 1: those shows bombed we didn't like those, So you gotta
Speaker 1: go deadly as catch, and I imagine it. I imagine
Speaker 1: like a twisted Grand theft auto. Like you make it
Speaker 1: a game of choice, you know, it's like the winches jam.
Speaker 1: Will you climb out and free it or swing it
Speaker 1: into the boat for repair and lose the next pot?
Speaker 1: You know, you pick one? Oh, you suffered a skull fracture?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Did you used to play
Speaker 1: Blue Marlin on Nintendo? By any chance? Bass was my
Speaker 1: jam on Nintendo. I'd ever got to. I still have
Speaker 1: a working Nintendo, and I have Blue Marlin and Black Bass.
Speaker 1: But the Blue Island it was always like the fish
Speaker 1: is taking a hard run. Will you wet the reel
Speaker 1: or put the boat in reverse and wetting the reel?
Speaker 1: Never worked? So yeah, kids, this Christmas, I hope you're
Speaker 1: ready for fishing North Atlantic. Oh man, that's a yeah.
Speaker 1: I I honestly don't know where to go with that
Speaker 1: other than as I hope it's better than it sounds.
Speaker 1: Something that I know is going to be very, very enjoyable. However,
Speaker 1: is coming right at you. We have one of our
Speaker 1: favorite people coming up in one of our favorite segments.
Speaker 1: It's time for smooth moves. Hold on pre ordering my
Speaker 1: copy of Fishing North Atlantic. There can't wait. Despite pandering
Speaker 1: to my hashtag gamer instincts, watch the Throne, Miles Notte
Speaker 1: is the winner this week. Miles, congrats on your first win.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Statham hive out there, and Miles,
Speaker 1: thank you for showing such concern for your friend Joe
Speaker 1: for breathing in all that horrible toxic East Coast air.
Speaker 1: What a gentleman. Why. This is where we reach out
Speaker 1: to a guide, or a charter captain or an outfitter,
Speaker 1: basically anybody who pays their bills or part of their
Speaker 1: bills by taking other people fishing. So today we're talking
Speaker 1: with Mandy Yerick, one of my absolute favorite people to
Speaker 1: fish with, even though I've only got to do it
Speaker 1: on on the ice and not in open water, which
Speaker 1: is I know where you really do most of your guiding. Mandy,
Speaker 1: how long have you been guiding? I don't think I
Speaker 1: even know how long you got it? About fifteen years
Speaker 1: plus right on, So you know, I done it a
Speaker 1: couple of times, just a few times. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: you've seen some ridiculous ship happened on the water in
Speaker 1: fifteen years a guiding. You couldn't have said it much better.
Speaker 1: But so all right, I know you have a storyline
Speaker 1: set up for us today. What do you got give
Speaker 1: us your smooth move? Uh. I do a lot of
Speaker 1: guests guiding, like volunteer trips that will donate for nonprofits, um,
Speaker 1: you know, or celebrities. We'll just lead into that. So
Speaker 1: we're we won't name names, but we're all fishing, and
Speaker 1: we're on a bigger body of water and the bite
Speaker 1: is really good, and uh this clients like I have
Speaker 1: to use the restroom, and I'm like, hey, alright. I
Speaker 1: was like, we can pack up and and I can
Speaker 1: run you back to the landing. Not snow problem, Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'll be fine. So alright, like not a problem. Like
Speaker 1: I'm on the front deck, got my back turned or whatever.
Speaker 1: Just kind of turn the music up on the radio
Speaker 1: kind of a deal. And so we're fine. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like yells at me like hey, we're good, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm like yeah, all right. So you know, we
Speaker 1: go back to fishing or whatever, and it's not even
Speaker 1: a few minutes later we're walleye fishing, and uh, I
Speaker 1: set the hook and it's a good one, you know,
Speaker 1: and I don't keep fishing myself personally, but you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, do you want do you want this
Speaker 1: one too? And he's like, yeah, I have no problems.
Speaker 1: I unhook the fish and I turned around to go
Speaker 1: throw it in the life. Well, and you can't make
Speaker 1: this up. The dude ship in my life well and
Speaker 1: we fish and live. Well, he just that wasn't the
Speaker 1: first one. You already had absolutely destroyed my life. Well
Speaker 1: with these fish in it, no idea what to say.
Speaker 1: I'm like having this meltdown and I literally just dropped
Speaker 1: the fish back over the side of the boat. I'm
Speaker 1: like trying to be cool about it, right, like not
Speaker 1: to embarrass him, but I'm like, what are you thinking, man,
Speaker 1: Like we've got fish in the life. Well. The worst
Speaker 1: part is so like we were close to like filling
Speaker 1: out our limit right being done for the day, and
Speaker 1: I'm like for the rest of the day. I'm like
Speaker 1: I didn't. I'm like, oh, this one's not big enough
Speaker 1: to keep kept throwing fish back. Good for you for
Speaker 1: playing that game, because I would have been like, dude,
Speaker 1: like they're all the walleyes and now I'm who's eating those? Actually,
Speaker 1: I couldn't have played that up and I, oh, man,
Speaker 1: good for you. I don't know how I would respond
Speaker 1: to that other than to hand him like a net
Speaker 1: and be like, you need to clean that out right now.
Speaker 1: There wasn't anything you can scoop but no, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it wasn't solid. It means he was getting right
Speaker 1: into the meat. Fish were brooding it. I was going
Speaker 1: running through their circulatory system, just mainlining poop basically what
Speaker 1: those fish were just like it's like it's like ships
Speaker 1: right there. We get to the we get to the
Speaker 1: here it gets better. So we get to the landing
Speaker 1: and we have these invasive species people that you don't
Speaker 1: check your boats or whatever. So you gotta pull the
Speaker 1: drain plug and you gotta pull the the live bo
Speaker 1: plug right the water run out gagging. I don't have
Speaker 1: a glove or anything in there. I pull a creation.
Speaker 1: They have to pull the plug in the live bul
Speaker 1: The poor species like monitor that monitors the access is
Speaker 1: standing behind my bowl. Water is like running on his
Speaker 1: feet and I'm like, dude, back up back. I didn't
Speaker 1: have the heart to tell him, so what do you
Speaker 1: do with the water normally I do, like, you know,
Speaker 1: I clean the fish for my package him up. It
Speaker 1: depends how long they're gonna be in town. Sometimes will
Speaker 1: you know freezer freezing form or whatever. So like we
Speaker 1: get done with the inspection that like I like gets
Speaker 1: in the truck and I have to like go drop
Speaker 1: him back off at his resort. And I was like, so, uh,
Speaker 1: what do you want to do with these fish? Do
Speaker 1: you want to clean him or do you want me
Speaker 1: to clean up? And he's like, well, he's like, could
Speaker 1: you just clean him right out of the cabin. He
Speaker 1: was like, we're going to do a big fish fry tonight.
Speaker 1: So I did clean these We're a much nicer person,
Speaker 1: So put your fish in a garbage bag, take them
Speaker 1: if you want to. You you deal with your own
Speaker 1: poop fish, thank you. The worst part isn't So they
Speaker 1: have like this big dinner and they asked me to
Speaker 1: stay and I was like, they started eating the fish
Speaker 1: and I was like, I gotta go, guys like every
Speaker 1: morning tomorrow. So they ate they and he didn't he
Speaker 1: didn't tell them. I still wake up dry heaving in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night. Ever since Mandy told this story,
Speaker 1: and we had to cut that interview down, because otherwise
Speaker 1: we'd all still be dry heaving into our cheerios. But
Speaker 1: what you don't necessarily get is that the dude who
Speaker 1: be found her live well as an experienced angler, right, Like,
Speaker 1: isn't like just the random random dude someone who works
Speaker 1: in the fishing industry and he should know better. There's
Speaker 1: no I mean, anyone should know better, but especially him.
Speaker 1: But the part of that story that sticks with me,
Speaker 1: it's not even the act, right because sometimes when you
Speaker 1: gotta go, you gotta go, like we've all been there,
Speaker 1: but she's well, she's your dold. Just open the bomb
Speaker 1: doors anywhere. You gotta gotta know where you're dropping your payload.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say. Don't you feel like if
Speaker 1: you did that, and even like if as you were
Speaker 1: doing it you were like, I shouldn't have done this,
Speaker 1: you'd at least be mad enough to be like, I'm
Speaker 1: really sorry. We have to throw out all those walleyes.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have pretended nothing frigging happened. And then one
Speaker 1: of them cleaned for the family, Like can you imagine
Speaker 1: that dinner? Like you're sitting there like, first of all,
Speaker 1: is that dude eating. Is he like shoveling it down
Speaker 1: or is he like pushing them around the plate and
Speaker 1: watching his his family and friends eat the ship? Walley, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he was eating it. I think he was
Speaker 1: diving in with Gusto. I think he just like scrubbed
Speaker 1: it from his mind and he's like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: it's all part of the cycle. It came from me
Speaker 1: and it is going back to me. So it's it's, it's, it's, it's.
Speaker 1: It's the most vile story we've had on Smooth Moves yet, Mandy,
Speaker 1: you're winning right now for that. Yeah, So just consider
Speaker 1: this whole thing a public service announcement from us, your
Speaker 1: friends here at Bent never poop in the live. Well,
Speaker 1: all right, we're almost out of time, but I feel
Speaker 1: like we need a little, a little cleansing flush after
Speaker 1: that story. We wouldn't want to leave that particular taste
Speaker 1: in your mouth. So for this week's end of the line,
Speaker 1: Joe is going to school you up on a super
Speaker 1: secret bait that's damn near impossible to find these days. Well,
Speaker 1: it's not loud enough this week, let's talk about helgram mites. Alright.
Speaker 1: Helgram mites are Dobson flies, in their larval stage, and
Speaker 1: in that larval stage they live in water. And these
Speaker 1: are big, juicy, nasty segment a black Allien centipede looking
Speaker 1: suckers with these mean ass pinchers at their mouth. Right now,
Speaker 1: some of you are probably familiar with the Dobson fly
Speaker 1: right and I'll be honest, they scare the ship out
Speaker 1: of me. An adult Dobson fly is so big when
Speaker 1: you're on the river at night, like you think like
Speaker 1: a bat just came whizzing past your head. And by
Speaker 1: the time they reached that adulthood, those pictures are now
Speaker 1: like five times longer than they were when they were
Speaker 1: a helgram mite. I swear they will bite you in
Speaker 1: one time. This is no joke. A Dobson fly ended
Speaker 1: up in my truck, chomped on my buddy's neck while
Speaker 1: I was driving, and there was swerving and screeching breaks
Speaker 1: and and pandemonium Allah the dear scene in Tommy Boy. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I wish I had some helgra Mites to put on
Speaker 1: the end of my line. There's some reminiscing involved in
Speaker 1: this segment today. Truth be told, I haven't fished alive
Speaker 1: one since I was a teenager because back in the day,
Speaker 1: you could actually buy live helgra mites in a few
Speaker 1: bake shops around here. Now, not only are all of
Speaker 1: those bait shops gone, which I'm sure many of you
Speaker 1: can relate to the art of helgram mite collection at
Speaker 1: least where I live is sort of a thing of
Speaker 1: the past. It's a lost art and the saying of
Speaker 1: helgra mites. That's easy, right, get a piece of screen,
Speaker 1: you stretch it between two wooden owl's wedge that downstream
Speaker 1: of a rock, Lift the rock and let the contents,
Speaker 1: which hopefully includes helgram mites, flush into the screen. But
Speaker 1: the real art for the guys that used to collect
Speaker 1: for the shops wasn't the actual saying. It was knowing
Speaker 1: exactly where to go, and most importantly, when based on
Speaker 1: intimate knowledge of when they'd score the most helgram mites.
Speaker 1: You know, based on everything from the season, to temperatures
Speaker 1: to probably the moon phase who knows. But if you
Speaker 1: factor in all that went into getting enough helgram mites
Speaker 1: to sell, it made a dozen pretty pricey for a teenager.
Speaker 1: So we only bought them as kind of a special
Speaker 1: treat or in some cases as an insurance policy. If
Speaker 1: you've ever fished live helgra mites, you can attest to
Speaker 1: the fact that no matter how goddamn locked y'alled or
Speaker 1: hunker down, the small mouths are. No matter how convinced
Speaker 1: you are that you're not catching a single one of them,
Speaker 1: that day you put down the rapela and send out
Speaker 1: a live helgra mite under a float. It gets eight,
Speaker 1: pure and simple. A live helgramte can suddenly make a
Speaker 1: bronze back appear in a puddle of rainwater in the
Speaker 1: parking lot at Walgreens. And as I've been told, that's
Speaker 1: all because of smell. The aroma omitted by a live
Speaker 1: helgrimte underwater is so intoxicating, so inviting, and so deliciously
Speaker 1: pungent that, regardless of conditions, small mouths can't not eat
Speaker 1: one if they have the opportunity. And despite all the
Speaker 1: soft plastic helgro mites there are out there, I've even
Speaker 1: seen some some helgra mite hard crank bits. Um, none
Speaker 1: of them will even be a fraction as potent as
Speaker 1: the real thing until science figures out how to bottle
Speaker 1: that real deal helgram might be. Oh, you know, I've
Speaker 1: seen a few helgram mites in my day, but any
Speaker 1: success I had was was all by pure luck. Right.
Speaker 1: If I found two in five hours on a full
Speaker 1: mile of stream, I was thrilled. It's really like panning
Speaker 1: for gold. So if you do get your hands on
Speaker 1: some live Helgramtes, treat them like gold, because I promised
Speaker 1: they are. And you know, a few years ago, I
Speaker 1: was driving through the northwestern hamlet of Buttsville, New Jersey,
Speaker 1: and there's this old post office that's been converted into
Speaker 1: a home and on the porch was a cooler on
Speaker 1: a folding table next to a hand drawn sign that
Speaker 1: just read helgra Mites. And I was so curious that
Speaker 1: I had to stop in. The homeowner a guy named Paul,
Speaker 1: who kind of kind of looked like Jimmy Houston. Right.
Speaker 1: He came out in these jean shorts and this old
Speaker 1: white T shirt and he just said, ain't got any today,
Speaker 1: gone out tonight. And I asked him if I could
Speaker 1: come back up sometime to go with him, thinking maybe
Speaker 1: i'd pen a story about the last helgram might harvester
Speaker 1: in Jersey. And his response to that was simply hell now, okay,
Speaker 1: So just a quick recap here. Western steelheaders are depressive,
Speaker 1: self righteous stoners. Dose Boat has a strong fishing pedigree,
Speaker 1: and you should never eat fish out of Mandy Uruck's
Speaker 1: Live Well ever forever on clean. That about sums it up.
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Speaker 1: this show to your fishing buddies. Play it on the
Speaker 1: on the ride to the the water, the river, the ocean,
Speaker 1: wherever you're going the lake, we don't care. Play it
Speaker 1: for him, even those buddies that are not allowed in
Speaker 1: your house ever again. I think I'm gonna call up
Speaker 1: a couple of those buddies and and see if they
Speaker 1: can get out on the water this weekend. Oh nice,
Speaker 1: I'll be waiting for your call, Joe and Uh. I'll
Speaker 1: talk to the rest of you next week.