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Speaker 1: It'll be more uplifting, I promise. But as much as

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Speaker 1: on a killing spirit of crowded Beach in China before

426
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: Stratham saved the day. There you go, I just saved

427
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: you a few hours. You're welcome and that is that

428
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: movie was. And then Dwight Shrewt is his side Yes,

429
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: Dwight shoot is the sidekick. Yeah. So I just will

430
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 1: go on record and say when the previews dropped, just

431
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: for the hell of it, because I'm such a Jaws fan.

432
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: I had every intention of seeing it in Imax, just

433
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: because like I have to, because I'm a shark movie guy.

434
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: And then I never got around to it. I have

435
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: still never seen the meg From what I can do,

436
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: I haven't either, but I had to research it for this,

437
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: and I think you're glad you didn't, and I just

438
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: gave you the whole plot, so you're done. It's fine.

439
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: And as bad as that movie sounds like it was,

440
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: and according to the reviews, it was really bad. That

441
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: plot it actually mirrors and this is getting to your

442
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: your belief like the fact that some people still believe

443
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: there around that plot mirrors. A fake documentary that aired

444
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: several years ago on Shark Week. And notice I did

445
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 1: not say mockumentary. This isn't like an intentional we're making

446
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: a joke. Fake. I said fake documentary, as in a

447
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: totally bogus film that tried to pass itself off as legitimate.

448
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: So they got Yeah, they kind of got in trouble

449
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: and not trying to say trouble, but they caught a

450
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: lot of flak because there's a there's a famous image

451
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: from that documentary. It's like a coastguard extraction. Like there's

452
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: a dude hanging off a ladder, off a chopper and

453
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: like under the water you see this shadow and this

454
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: was Uh. They did this after they did the same

455
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,239
Speaker 1: thing with the Killer Mermaids documentary, remember that one, And

456
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: then they did I also found this out. It wasn't

457
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: in what I wrote up, But they did one another

458
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: fake documentary of what might have happened if the Mermaids

459
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: and the Megalodon fought. Yes, that's the one, if you're

460
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: gonna pick one. But in the one that I'm we're referencing,

461
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: just for everybody ever knows, it's called Megalodon Monster Shark

462
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: Lives and the ever creative Shark Week brain Trust claimed

463
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: they had evidence that Megalodon might not be extinct. After all,

464
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: we just hadn't noticed a giant shark ever. And they

465
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: paraded through a series of quote unquote scientists, but all

466
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,479
Speaker 1: the scientists in that film Joe actors reading a script totally,

467
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: and none of it was true. It's the same thing,

468
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: you know with the Mermaids. And you know, people have

469
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: loved to cling to the sela canth like they're always like, well,

470
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: there's an example of a fish that we thought was

471
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: extinct and it wasn't. Fine, I get that, but I mean,

472
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: for how many generations was the or fish a sea

473
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: monster of mythology? The giant squid? Does that really exist? Well,

474
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: we've found all that stuff since. And even though they

475
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: say the ocean is we we know more about outer

476
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: space than the ocean. Dude, if there was a mega

477
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: or several out there, one would have washed up in

478
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: Fiji or wherever this ship washes up by. Now, I

479
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: don't I don't believe it's out there. It's definitely not.

480
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: It's I mean, let's just it's not. It's not a thing. Okay. Agree.

481
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: People like to point to the mega mouth shark too,

482
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: But one of the major differences here is that those

483
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: fish actually or shark excuse me, did live in very

484
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: very very deep water where we can't go. All the

485
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: evidence of Megalodon is that it was actually a shallow

486
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: water predator. So we would have found it. Uh, we

487
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: would have found it. And and fun little fact that

488
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: I hadn't put in there, the the state fossil of

489
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: North Carolina is the Megalodon tooth. Okay, two things. They're

490
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: the mega mouth shark was always included in my shark

491
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: coloring books as a young kid, and I never colored

492
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: it because I'm like, that's a lame shark. It looks

493
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: it looks like a bluga whale, it has no teeth.

494
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: So I was never into the mega mouth. But it's

495
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: funny you say that about North Carolina state fossil being

496
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: the Megleton tooth. That is a dream of mine. And

497
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 1: I I know a handful of people that live some

498
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: in Florida, some in the Carolina is specifically, if you

499
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: know where to look, it's not that uncommon find megletus.

500
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: That's what they do. Yeah. And in fact, one of

501
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: the old editors at one of the old magazines I

502
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: worked for when he was younger, he was a mate

503
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: on a party boat. I think it was in Georgia

504
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: and there was a spot out there that was known

505
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: for him, and like people would snag a bunch of

506
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: seaweed on the party boat and bring it up and

507
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: there'd be a freaking full meg tooth like glued to

508
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: the seaweed that he had one. I'm like, God, I

509
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: want that, and that's like that's my dream. Yeah. No,

510
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: I like I said, I know folks who do it,

511
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: and we're getting way off off script here, but I

512
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: I have also wanted to do a but the guy

513
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: who I know who's serious about it, like his mentor

514
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: who taught him how to do it, died diving for

515
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: those teeth, So it's it comes with some risk. I'll

516
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: just say that. It's not like, oh, you just dive

517
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: down and grab some some giant shark teeth. Here we go.

518
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: But to get back to my initial point, like I'm

519
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: annoyed about the fake documentary and people just kind of

520
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: like trying to play up this this megalodon thing because

521
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: we're just selling people on the fear of a creature

522
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: that a has not existed in millions of years, and

523
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: be it ain't whales, not people, not you, this is

524
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: not a thing that's like hunting. You it ate whales.

525
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: You were not even a cheeto. Yeah, I was gonna say,

526
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: you're not even like a poppy seed in the damn

527
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: things teeth. But having said that, if if you are

528
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: one of those folks who just loves the shark horror genre,

529
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you Joe, I got good news. The rumor,

530
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: the rumor mill has it that Meg two the trench

531
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: is in development. So there's another coming. I'll have to

532
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: get caught up. That's yeah, I'll get caught up. All right.

533
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a good segue here. We'll

534
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: go from the from sharks that don't exist to getting

535
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: in trouble on Instagram. There's a ship. Say if it

536
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: still is factoring segues? And I just lost today because

537
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: that was total brain for anyway. Look, here's a classic

538
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: tale about how the inability of many fishermen to simply

539
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: keep their mouth shut and photos to themselves can swing

540
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: around and bite you in the ass. And this comes

541
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: from the Miami Herald headline. He caught a big fish

542
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: near Key West, but he went to jail after bragging

543
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: about it. And this is the story, and this is

544
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: the story of Joshua David and Zesky, eighteen years old,

545
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: and says he was jailed after State Fish and Wildlife

546
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: officers said he removed a goliath grouper from the water

547
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: so he could pose for a to with it. He

548
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: was arrested on a misdemeanor charge of possession of a

549
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: goliath grouper, booked into the Stock Island Attention Center, and

550
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: released the same day after posting a seventy five hundred

551
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: dollar bond. Now, to catch you guys up in case

552
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: you are not familiar, goliath grouper have been protected in

553
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: the US since which means harvest and possession of these species.

554
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: It's it's completely outlawed um. And this also explains I'm

555
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: sure you guys have seen this. When you see somebody

556
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: posing with a goliath grouper, the fish is usually boat side, right,

557
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: it's still in the water. Or the even cooler thing

558
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: to do now is jump in the water with your

559
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: goliath grouper c as it catches his breath yep, and

560
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: then you get splashed as it kicks away, and then

561
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: you get a ton of uh comments when you post

562
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: that video on your Instagram account and all of that

563
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: is perfectly okay, right, Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission says

564
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: it's okay to snap some picks with your goliath as

565
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: long as it doesn't get in the way of a fast,

566
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: healthy release. But young Mr Anzeski just made so many

567
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: wrong terms. He just he strayed so far, and I

568
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: kind of don't feel bad for him. So if you're

569
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: out there thinking like, come on, man, you know, give

570
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: the kid a break. He was proud of his fish,

571
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: all right, listen and I read on. Anazeski said he

572
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,719
Speaker 1: caught the twenty pound juvenile in the lagoon on the

573
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: campus of the College of the Florida Keys on Stock Island.

574
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: According to the rest the arrest report by f w C,

575
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: the lagoon where the goliath came from is the college's

576
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: dive training lagoon, and there are signs posted there that

577
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: indicate fishing is prohibited. The lagoon is a classroom space

578
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: where we teach diving in marine science classes, said Amber

579
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: Ernst Leonard, the colleges spokeswoman. It is filled with wildlife

580
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: that we value and respect. So I read that as

581
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: kind of like aquarium, which means lame move bro. That's like,

582
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: that's strike two. All right, that's yeah, that's lame, okay, um.

583
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 1: And the story goes on to say Anisky said he

584
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: caught the fish, took it out of the water, and

585
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: was quote messing around with it. F w C said,

586
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, and that's like such a teenager thing, like,

587
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, you get picked. We're just messing around, man.

588
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: He removed the hook from its mouth before taking the photo,

589
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: and the police said it's a problem that Annazeski took

590
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: the fish from the water and traveled at least a

591
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: hundred feet from where he car take the photo. I

592
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I saw the picture online that it's just

593
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: like a dorm room building behind It's it's a totally

594
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: okay you know what. I was like, Bro, I gotta

595
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: show my roommate this. Yes, you don't believe what I

596
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: just called. Out of the aquarium out front, he can't

597
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: really tell what's behind him, but it's like it's like

598
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: the building that would be at a community pool or

599
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: something like the locker room building. Um, you know. But

600
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: now here's the funny thing. Right. You might assume he

601
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: got pinched because he posted his catch on social Nope,

602
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: he was smart enough, I guess to not do that.

603
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: But he did send the shot in a group text

604
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: to a bunch of buddies to brag about it, and

605
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: one of them, clearly it was a person Josh piste

606
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: Off because they snitched. One person on that group text

607
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: sent that shot to F. W. C Um. And you know,

608
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: a few thoughts on this first, what's jail like on

609
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: stock Island? And the keys? You know, the keys are

610
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: like such a happy, carefree, relaxing environment. Are there poorly

611
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: done fish murals in the cells like on every other

612
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: building down there? Leaping ma he he's and smiling sea turtles?

613
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's probably not that different from Duvall Street

614
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: after bar closed time, Like I would assume it's the

615
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 1: same cast of characters. They're just a little bit more

616
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: penned in, shall we say? Yeah, it's probably pretty rowdy.

617
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: You're right, I've seen some rowdy stuff down there. I

618
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: just always wonder, it's like, what's jail like in Paradise? Maybe?

619
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: I bet it's hot, That's what I'm gonna bet. I

620
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: bet it's really hot and sticky. Probably probably, so, you know,

621
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: I will say, bad move, okay. Even before he caught

622
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: the group er just fishing in the training lagoon, However,

623
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: I have to admit I did something similar one time,

624
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: but completely unknowingly, and this was a truly innocent mistake.

625
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: But I went to a Ruba for spring break one year,

626
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: which is a terrible island. So if you're an angler

627
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: considering a Ruba for a fishing destination, stop considering it.

628
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: And anyway, this resort were at had this private island

629
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: with these little boats that would run guests out to

630
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: the island to lay on the beach, and they had

631
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: their tennis courts and all that junk out there, but

632
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: they left one end of the island wild and scenic

633
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: so you could do nature walks and junk. So one

634
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: morning I catched the first boat out six am. Super

635
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: there's like super hot Danish girls on the boat or

636
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: whoever whatever country owns a Ruba and like me, the

637
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: dork with like the rods and the flats booties, and

638
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm making my way to the end of the island.

639
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: I spot this monster barracuda in a little lagoon and

640
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: I cast at him. He bites, he cuts me off,

641
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: so I'm like, I'll fix your ass, dude, And I

642
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: put wire on and metal and uh, I'm just about

643
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: to cast and around the corner comes the first nature

644
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: tour group of the morning, which I did not know

645
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: they had, and the tour guide is like, over here

646
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: you'll see Charlie, our resident. And there I am standing

647
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: there with a rod on a little bridge, and thank

648
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: god I didn't cast because Charlie was angry that morning. Dude,

649
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: forty five seconds later, I would have had Charlie shaken

650
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: on a bow cari if they would have got a

651
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: real good look at Charlie. But I just ran away

652
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: and didn't bother fishing anymore than the rest of the time.

653
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: You got lucky. They're very smart. I mean, there are

654
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: so many different stories that we could go through of

655
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: people getting pinched, particularly in our media space, for just

656
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: not being able to keep themselves from casting at that fish.

657
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: But they know they shouldn't. It happens all the time.

658
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: So hopefully lesson learned their kid, you know, take your lumps.

659
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: But like you know, you don't have to fish in

660
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: the dive pool. You know, there's a million bridges down there.

661
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: Like fishing at the bridge, dude, any any other place,

662
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: any other place, and I'm gonna I'm gonna move us

663
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: away from illicit fish toward fish that we should really embrace,

664
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: fish that we should should should celebrate really for for

665
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: reasons that have nothing to do with their sport. And

666
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: on this one, I've really just I've got great news

667
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: for you. I picked the story because I care about you, Joe,

668
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: That's really Yeah. I'm listening a little harder now, I'm

669
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: just a little I'm hoping. I'm hoping that, like, when

670
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: I do this, you'll feel just a little bit better

671
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: about your own life choices. All right, Wow, so you're

672
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: I know you have a you eat fish like me,

673
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: we're fish eaters, and and your regular fish consumption habit

674
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: might just be helping to counteract the fact that where

675
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: you live is killing your brain. That's right, Yeah, consuming

676
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: fish flesh may help prevent the brain shrinkage that can

677
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: come from living on the edge of a city and

678
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: huffing air pollution. It means, dude, you could you can

679
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: stay in Philly. Dude, you can move to Trenton if

680
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: you want. And as long as you eat fish or

681
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: shellfish at least three times a week, all that airborne

682
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: toxicity might not dissolve your white matter and hippocampus. I

683
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: practically live almost equidistant between Trenton and Philly, and I

684
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: actually lived directly under the power lines that connect them both.

685
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: See they run right over the home. So this is

686
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: good information, This is good news for you. I did,

687
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 1: I really did pick this for you. A study from

688
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: the American Academy of Neurology, which seems very legit, collected

689
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: information on fish consumption habits of people who live in

690
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: areas with air pollution, then scanned their brains and found

691
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: that regular fish eaters have an advantage over those who

692
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: skip the watery meats. And we've known for a long

693
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: time that that Omega three, the acids, and fish are

694
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: good for brain health and they fight inflammation that we've

695
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: we've known that that's not new, But this study specifically

696
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: looked at one of the known impacts of air pollution,

697
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: which I didn't know. This is an actual shrinking of

698
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: certain parts of the brain associated with memory and neural response.

699
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: So while eating fish won't actually make you smarter, it

700
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: might keep you from getting dumber. And that's something we

701
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: could all use. Really. I mean, I feeled my own

702
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: shrinkage coming on, and I would like to fight it

703
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: in any way I can. But before we get too excited.

704
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: I gotta say the study has a few limitations. All

705
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: the participants were older, white women, so it may or

706
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: may not translate to you and me, Joe. Also, since

707
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: this research only looked at exposure later in life, we

708
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: can't say for sure that feeding your kids fish will

709
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: protect them from air pollution. But my main gripe with

710
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: this study, and this is just a personal thing, The

711
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: main thing that kind of pisces me off is that

712
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: they completely discounted fried fish. Of fried fish did not count.

713
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: Oh so if you yeah, that means because you drop

714
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: it in the deep, yeah, would you count it? May

715
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: or may not be protecting my brain. We don't know,

716
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: because they like eliminated that as a variable from the study.

717
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, go back, redo this study, but keep

718
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: the fried fish in because I want to know if

719
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: the fried fish helps or not. What was it all steamed?

720
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: Like what do you gotta do? It was all it

721
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: was baked, broiled or yeah, or or boiled. I assume,

722
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: so no pickles, no onions, no fun and fried like

723
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: I think it was only deep fried, like pan fried, cool,

724
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: deep fried, You're out the way I pan fry fish.

725
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: The amount of butter that would would be cool. Well

726
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: that's kind of that's kind of a bummer. It's like

727
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 1: there's people who are like, well, potatoes are a great

728
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: source of iron or whatever. Yeah, the skin, but like

729
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: the middle will just make you fatter. Just sugar, so

730
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: just so just deep potato skins then yeah, if they're

731
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: not fried and covered in cheese, sure, but who eats

732
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: potato skins aren't fried and covered in cheese. Yeah, And

733
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: I hate to admit it, but I don't think I'm

734
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: in the minority here. Like literally, just just last week,

735
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: I came home with huge bags of mahi mahi filets,

736
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: so we're gonna eat some fresh the night after the trip.

737
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: And it's like I spend all day like coming up

738
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: with like what interesting new things can I do with this?

739
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 1: And then like the kids get crazy and like dinner's

740
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: gotta get made, and I'm like, just fry the ship

741
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: because that's really what I want. Anyway, It's gonna be

742
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: the I want lemon and old bay and deep fried

743
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: and maybe a dash of tartar sauce. So that's actually

744
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: what I want. American Academy Neurology, please redo this study.

745
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: Maybe expand your sample size and look at the fried

746
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: fish just for us, like, just just let us know

747
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: how that goes. So all right, this is great. This

748
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: is a good segue. Speaking of fried fish, I'm gonna

749
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: help you guys get more of those yourself in the

750
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: digital realm. So follow with me here because this next story, gosh, darna,

751
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: I still can't decide how I feel about it. It's

752
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: either the worst idea or it has the potential to

753
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: be the next big thing. I don't know. But this

754
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: comes from CBC Canada and the headline of the story

755
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: is video game developer from Norway hopes to lower players

756
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: with fishing simulation set in Nova Scotia. Okay, now here

757
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: we go. So when a Norwegian company needed help testing

758
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: its new video simulation game, Fishing North Atlantic, one of

759
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: the people that turned to was sixteen year old honor

760
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: student from a tiny fishing port in eastern Nova Scotia.

761
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: Because Dakota Keith knows video games, but he also spent

762
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: two months on the back of a lobster boat this

763
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: season fishing with his father and grandfather out of Little Dover,

764
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: near Canso on the province's eastern shore. Keith helped identify

765
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: bugs in the game while it was in development earlier

766
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: this year. Now he's one of the first to play

767
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: the latest version, weeks ahead of official release, and Keith says,

768
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: you could play the game and you could learn a

769
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: lot about all the different ports and how we fish here,

770
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: he said from the gaming desk in his bedroom. Now

771
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna skip ahead. Just what everybody wants out of

772
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: a fishing games are wait, wait, wait wait. So just

773
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: a quick note here that it took Keith six hours

774
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: to download the latest version of this game in the

775
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: rural town in which he lives, and I looked up

776
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: Canco to confirm that yes, in fact, there is nothing there.

777
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: So it does not surprise me, uh that when Dakota

778
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: isn't lobstering, he's gaming because pro Google maps. Other options

779
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: include walking the Chapel Gully trail, driving down Marine Drive,

780
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: or visiting one of three lighthouses. Could not find the

781
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: David Busters on the map in Canco, all right, so

782
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: I'll continue on here. In the game, players start with

783
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: a small boat harpooning swordfish in three kilometers of water

784
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: off of southern Nova, Scotia. As they land and sell

785
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: their catch at any one of five area ports. They

786
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: work their way up to progressively larger vessels, including lobster

787
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: boats and finally a factory freezer trawler for Nova Scotia audiences.

788
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: It features realistic waterfronts and familiar landmarks in Lunenburg, Lockport,

789
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: Yarmouth and Digby, and to a lesser degree, Dennis Point

790
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: in Lower Publico, although the warp side Dennis Point Cafe

791
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: is identifiable. Dakota says, since I was a kid playing games,

792
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: I always wanted something that we do. It's the only

793
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: thing that has anything to do with fishing on a

794
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: commercial scale anyway. It's great to be recognized as the

795
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: province in a game doing what we do here. And

796
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: I guess I sympathize with that. Growing up in so

797
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: I I had imagined Tony Hawk's pro skater doesn't really

798
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: speak to you, write paper Boy, they probably don't have

799
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 1: one of those. Even to that end, like the Rapple

800
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,959
Speaker 1: of Fishing game on PlayStation. I mean, this kid didn't

801
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: grow up with Shaw Griggsby and a used bass tracker.

802
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: You know, he had a dory, a south Western Hattan

803
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: corn cob pipe. You know, I I hear you, But like,

804
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: did you grow up in some like creepy world full

805
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: of magic mushrooms and giant green ogre's named Kopa's Like no,

806
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: the part of the fun of gaming is that you

807
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: get out of the real experience and into a world

808
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: actually existed. This would be like I was playing a

809
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: video game called editing Fishing Stories. There's a reason why

810
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: people commercial fish for work, not for fun, Like I.

811
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: I know a lot of commercial fishermen and and a

812
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: none of them are like, man, you know what I

813
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: wish I could be doing when I'm not out on

814
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: the boat hauling in thousand pound nets playing a game

815
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: out on the boat hauling in thousand pound nets and

816
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: never sleeping. But wait, here's the clincher, right. The maker

817
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: of this game, Hamma Crew, totally sees this going worldwide

818
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: and plans to expand fishing locations within the game to

819
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: the US and Japan. And the way I look at it,

820
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: Japan has to be like the last level, right, because

821
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: there's just nothing left. So like, once you've sold the

822
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: final tuning, you need to catch in the US to

823
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,959
Speaker 1: the Japanese. The digital Japanese buyer gives you the code

824
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: to get to Japan, where you have to catch exactly

825
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: one fish of any size to be crowned. Let's be honest,

826
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: you could you under spend. You're just you're just hunting

827
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: whales at that point, Like that's that's that's the the

828
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: final level of that game is like you're hunting whales

829
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: and you're trying to dodge the c shepherd that's coming

830
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: to kill you. Okay, all right, that's that's play. Yeah, right,

831
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: And in the beginning I said I might be wrong, right,

832
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: because I don't know, dude. Maybe like it's like battle

833
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: Ship or Strtigo. Maybe commercial fishing works. People still play

834
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: mind Sweeper. Remember Rolling Coaster Tycoon was the bomb the

835
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: sims and these are games and a lot of people

836
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: like me, you know, scoff tapp but people got sucked into.

837
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: So maybe it works somehow more as a game of strategy,

838
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: because obviously it can't be riveting gameplay. It kind of

839
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: like how people like flight simulators. But I will say

840
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: to the game developer log when you when you come

841
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: up with the US level, look basing it off. Wicked

842
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: Tuna might work, but the Swordfish, Life on the Line,

843
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: Pacific Crabbers, and that main Lobsterman show all tanked. All

844
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 1: those shows bombed we didn't like those, So you gotta

845
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: go deadly as catch, and I imagine it. I imagine

846
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: like a twisted Grand theft auto. Like you make it

847
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: a game of choice, you know, it's like the winches jam.

848
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: Will you climb out and free it or swing it

849
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: into the boat for repair and lose the next pot?

850
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 1: You know, you pick one? Oh, you suffered a skull fracture?

851
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Did you used to play

852
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: Blue Marlin on Nintendo? By any chance? Bass was my

853
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: jam on Nintendo. I'd ever got to. I still have

854
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: a working Nintendo, and I have Blue Marlin and Black Bass.

855
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: But the Blue Island it was always like the fish

856
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: is taking a hard run. Will you wet the reel

857
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: or put the boat in reverse and wetting the reel?

858
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: Never worked? So yeah, kids, this Christmas, I hope you're

859
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: ready for fishing North Atlantic. Oh man, that's a yeah.

860
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: I I honestly don't know where to go with that

861
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: other than as I hope it's better than it sounds.

862
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: Something that I know is going to be very, very enjoyable. However,

863
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: is coming right at you. We have one of our

864
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: favorite people coming up in one of our favorite segments.

865
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: It's time for smooth moves. Hold on pre ordering my

866
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 1: copy of Fishing North Atlantic. There can't wait. Despite pandering

867
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 1: to my hashtag gamer instincts, watch the Throne, Miles Notte

868
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: is the winner this week. Miles, congrats on your first win.

869
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Statham hive out there, and Miles,

870
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: thank you for showing such concern for your friend Joe

871
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: for breathing in all that horrible toxic East Coast air.

872
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: What a gentleman. Why. This is where we reach out

873
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: to a guide, or a charter captain or an outfitter,

874
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: basically anybody who pays their bills or part of their

875
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: bills by taking other people fishing. So today we're talking

876
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: with Mandy Yerick, one of my absolute favorite people to

877
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: fish with, even though I've only got to do it

878
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: on on the ice and not in open water, which

879
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: is I know where you really do most of your guiding. Mandy,

880
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: how long have you been guiding? I don't think I

881
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: even know how long you got it? About fifteen years

882
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: plus right on, So you know, I done it a

883
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: couple of times, just a few times. And I'm sure

884
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: you've seen some ridiculous ship happened on the water in

885
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: fifteen years a guiding. You couldn't have said it much better.

886
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: But so all right, I know you have a storyline

887
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: set up for us today. What do you got give

888
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: us your smooth move? Uh. I do a lot of

889
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: guests guiding, like volunteer trips that will donate for nonprofits, um,

890
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, or celebrities. We'll just lead into that. So

891
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: we're we won't name names, but we're all fishing, and

892
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 1: we're on a bigger body of water and the bite

893
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: is really good, and uh this clients like I have

894
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: to use the restroom, and I'm like, hey, alright. I

895
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: was like, we can pack up and and I can

896
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: run you back to the landing. Not snow problem, Oh no, no, no,

897
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: I'll be fine. So alright, like not a problem. Like

898
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm on the front deck, got my back turned or whatever.

899
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: Just kind of turn the music up on the radio

900
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: kind of a deal. And so we're fine. You know.

901
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: It's like yells at me like hey, we're good, you know,

902
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like yeah, all right. So you know, we

903
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: go back to fishing or whatever, and it's not even

904
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: a few minutes later we're walleye fishing, and uh, I

905
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: set the hook and it's a good one, you know,

906
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: and I don't keep fishing myself personally, but you know,

907
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, do you want do you want this

908
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: one too? And he's like, yeah, I have no problems.

909
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: I unhook the fish and I turned around to go

910
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: throw it in the life. Well, and you can't make

911
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: this up. The dude ship in my life well and

912
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: we fish and live. Well, he just that wasn't the

913
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: first one. You already had absolutely destroyed my life. Well

914
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: with these fish in it, no idea what to say.

915
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm like having this meltdown and I literally just dropped

916
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: the fish back over the side of the boat. I'm

917
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: like trying to be cool about it, right, like not

918
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: to embarrass him, but I'm like, what are you thinking, man,

919
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: Like we've got fish in the life. Well. The worst

920
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: part is so like we were close to like filling

921
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: out our limit right being done for the day, and

922
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm like for the rest of the day. I'm like

923
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: I didn't. I'm like, oh, this one's not big enough

924
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: to keep kept throwing fish back. Good for you for

925
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: playing that game, because I would have been like, dude,

926
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: like they're all the walleyes and now I'm who's eating those? Actually,

927
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't have played that up and I, oh, man,

928
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: good for you. I don't know how I would respond

929
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: to that other than to hand him like a net

930
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: and be like, you need to clean that out right now.

931
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: There wasn't anything you can scoop but no, okay, yeah,

932
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: so it wasn't solid. It means he was getting right

933
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: into the meat. Fish were brooding it. I was going

934
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: running through their circulatory system, just mainlining poop basically what

935
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: those fish were just like it's like it's like ships

936
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: right there. We get to the we get to the

937
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: here it gets better. So we get to the landing

938
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: and we have these invasive species people that you don't

939
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: check your boats or whatever. So you gotta pull the

940
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: drain plug and you gotta pull the the live bo

941
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: plug right the water run out gagging. I don't have

942
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 1: a glove or anything in there. I pull a creation.

943
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: They have to pull the plug in the live bul

944
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: The poor species like monitor that monitors the access is

945
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: standing behind my bowl. Water is like running on his

946
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: feet and I'm like, dude, back up back. I didn't

947
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: have the heart to tell him, so what do you

948
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: do with the water normally I do, like, you know,

949
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: I clean the fish for my package him up. It

950
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: depends how long they're gonna be in town. Sometimes will

951
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: you know freezer freezing form or whatever. So like we

952
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: get done with the inspection that like I like gets

953
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: in the truck and I have to like go drop

954
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: him back off at his resort. And I was like, so, uh,

955
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: what do you want to do with these fish? Do

956
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: you want to clean him or do you want me

957
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: to clean up? And he's like, well, he's like, could

958
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: you just clean him right out of the cabin. He

959
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: was like, we're going to do a big fish fry tonight.

960
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: So I did clean these We're a much nicer person,

961
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: So put your fish in a garbage bag, take them

962
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: if you want to. You you deal with your own

963
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: poop fish, thank you. The worst part isn't So they

964
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: have like this big dinner and they asked me to

965
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: stay and I was like, they started eating the fish

966
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, I gotta go, guys like every

967
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: morning tomorrow. So they ate they and he didn't he

968
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: didn't tell them. I still wake up dry heaving in

969
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: the middle of the night. Ever since Mandy told this story,

970
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: and we had to cut that interview down, because otherwise

971
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: we'd all still be dry heaving into our cheerios. But

972
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: what you don't necessarily get is that the dude who

973
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: be found her live well as an experienced angler, right, Like,

974
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: isn't like just the random random dude someone who works

975
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: in the fishing industry and he should know better. There's

976
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: no I mean, anyone should know better, but especially him.

977
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: But the part of that story that sticks with me,

978
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: it's not even the act, right because sometimes when you

979
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: gotta go, you gotta go, like we've all been there,

980
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: but she's well, she's your dold. Just open the bomb

981
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: doors anywhere. You gotta gotta know where you're dropping your payload.

982
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say. Don't you feel like if

983
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: you did that, and even like if as you were

984
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: doing it you were like, I shouldn't have done this,

985
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: you'd at least be mad enough to be like, I'm

986
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: really sorry. We have to throw out all those walleyes.

987
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have pretended nothing frigging happened. And then one

988
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: of them cleaned for the family, Like can you imagine

989
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: that dinner? Like you're sitting there like, first of all,

990
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: is that dude eating. Is he like shoveling it down

991
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: or is he like pushing them around the plate and

992
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: watching his his family and friends eat the ship? Walley, Yeah,

993
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: I think he was eating it. I think he was

994
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: diving in with Gusto. I think he just like scrubbed

995
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: it from his mind and he's like, well, you know,

996
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: it's all part of the cycle. It came from me

997
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: and it is going back to me. So it's it's, it's, it's, it's.

998
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: It's the most vile story we've had on Smooth Moves yet, Mandy,

999
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: you're winning right now for that. Yeah, So just consider

1000
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 1: this whole thing a public service announcement from us, your

1001
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: friends here at Bent never poop in the live. Well,

1002
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: all right, we're almost out of time, but I feel

1003
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: like we need a little, a little cleansing flush after

1004
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: that story. We wouldn't want to leave that particular taste

1005
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: in your mouth. So for this week's end of the line,

1006
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 1: Joe is going to school you up on a super

1007
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: secret bait that's damn near impossible to find these days. Well,

1008
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: it's not loud enough this week, let's talk about helgram mites. Alright.

1009
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: Helgram mites are Dobson flies, in their larval stage, and

1010
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: in that larval stage they live in water. And these

1011
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 1: are big, juicy, nasty segment a black Allien centipede looking

1012
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: suckers with these mean ass pinchers at their mouth. Right now,

1013
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: some of you are probably familiar with the Dobson fly

1014
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: right and I'll be honest, they scare the ship out

1015
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 1: of me. An adult Dobson fly is so big when

1016
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: you're on the river at night, like you think like

1017
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: a bat just came whizzing past your head. And by

1018
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: the time they reached that adulthood, those pictures are now

1019
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: like five times longer than they were when they were

1020
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: a helgram mite. I swear they will bite you in

1021
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: one time. This is no joke. A Dobson fly ended

1022
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: up in my truck, chomped on my buddy's neck while

1023
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: I was driving, and there was swerving and screeching breaks

1024
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: and and pandemonium Allah the dear scene in Tommy Boy. Anyway,

1025
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: I wish I had some helgra Mites to put on

1026
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: the end of my line. There's some reminiscing involved in

1027
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: this segment today. Truth be told, I haven't fished alive

1028
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: one since I was a teenager because back in the day,

1029
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: you could actually buy live helgra mites in a few

1030
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: bake shops around here. Now, not only are all of

1031
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: those bait shops gone, which I'm sure many of you

1032
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: can relate to the art of helgram mite collection at

1033
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: least where I live is sort of a thing of

1034
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: the past. It's a lost art and the saying of

1035
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: helgra mites. That's easy, right, get a piece of screen,

1036
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: you stretch it between two wooden owl's wedge that downstream

1037
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: of a rock, Lift the rock and let the contents,

1038
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: which hopefully includes helgram mites, flush into the screen. But

1039
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: the real art for the guys that used to collect

1040
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: for the shops wasn't the actual saying. It was knowing

1041
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: exactly where to go, and most importantly, when based on

1042
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: intimate knowledge of when they'd score the most helgram mites.

1043
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: You know, based on everything from the season, to temperatures

1044
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: to probably the moon phase who knows. But if you

1045
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: factor in all that went into getting enough helgram mites

1046
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: to sell, it made a dozen pretty pricey for a teenager.

1047
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: So we only bought them as kind of a special

1048
00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 1: treat or in some cases as an insurance policy. If

1049
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: you've ever fished live helgra mites, you can attest to

1050
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: the fact that no matter how goddamn locked y'alled or

1051
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: hunker down, the small mouths are. No matter how convinced

1052
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: you are that you're not catching a single one of them,

1053
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: that day you put down the rapela and send out

1054
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: a live helgra mite under a float. It gets eight,

1055
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: pure and simple. A live helgramte can suddenly make a

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00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: bronze back appear in a puddle of rainwater in the

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00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: parking lot at Walgreens. And as I've been told, that's

1058
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: all because of smell. The aroma omitted by a live

1059
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: helgrimte underwater is so intoxicating, so inviting, and so deliciously

1060
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: pungent that, regardless of conditions, small mouths can't not eat

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00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: one if they have the opportunity. And despite all the

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00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: soft plastic helgro mites there are out there, I've even

1063
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: seen some some helgra mite hard crank bits. Um, none

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00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: of them will even be a fraction as potent as

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00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: the real thing until science figures out how to bottle

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01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: that real deal helgram might be. Oh, you know, I've

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Speaker 1: seen a few helgram mites in my day, but any

1068
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: success I had was was all by pure luck. Right.

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01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: If I found two in five hours on a full

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01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: mile of stream, I was thrilled. It's really like panning

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01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: for gold. So if you do get your hands on

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01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: some live Helgramtes, treat them like gold, because I promised

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01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: they are. And you know, a few years ago, I

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01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: was driving through the northwestern hamlet of Buttsville, New Jersey,

1075
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: and there's this old post office that's been converted into

1076
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: a home and on the porch was a cooler on

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01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: a folding table next to a hand drawn sign that

1078
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: just read helgra Mites. And I was so curious that

1079
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: I had to stop in. The homeowner a guy named Paul,

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01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: who kind of kind of looked like Jimmy Houston. Right.

1081
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,919
Speaker 1: He came out in these jean shorts and this old

1082
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: white T shirt and he just said, ain't got any today,

1083
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: gone out tonight. And I asked him if I could

1084
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: come back up sometime to go with him, thinking maybe

1085
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: i'd pen a story about the last helgram might harvester

1086
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: in Jersey. And his response to that was simply hell now, okay,

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Speaker 1: So just a quick recap here. Western steelheaders are depressive,

1088
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: self righteous stoners. Dose Boat has a strong fishing pedigree,

1089
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: and you should never eat fish out of Mandy Uruck's

1090
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: Live Well ever forever on clean. That about sums it up.

1091
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: Please drop us a line at bent at the meat

1092
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: eator dot com. Let us know what's going on in

1093
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: your local fishery. Tell us what we got right, what

1094
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: we screwed up, what you wish we would do more of,

1095
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: and what you wish we would just stop doing altogether.

1096
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: We can take it. And while you're at it, if

1097
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: you're digging the show, please do us a favor and

1098
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: give us some stars in those Apple podcasts. Maybe leave

1099
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: us a review really matters, or best of all, introduced

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01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: this show to your fishing buddies. Play it on the

1101
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: on the ride to the the water, the river, the ocean,

1102
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: wherever you're going the lake, we don't care. Play it

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01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: for him, even those buddies that are not allowed in

1104
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: your house ever again. I think I'm gonna call up

1105
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: a couple of those buddies and and see if they

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01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: can get out on the water this weekend. Oh nice,

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01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: I'll be waiting for your call, Joe and Uh. I'll

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01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: talk to the rest of you next week.