1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huttle on Giants 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Giants Mobile the Giants Podcast Network. 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: Welcome to the newest edition of the Giant Subtle Podcast. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: John Schmoke with you today's guest three interior offensive lineman 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: for the New York Football Giants, Will Hernandez, Shane Lemieux, 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: and center Nick Gates. As a reminder, you can find 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: The Giant Subtle Podcast on your favorite podcast platforms, on 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: the Giants Mobile app and on giants dot Com slash podcast. Remember, folks, 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: tell all your friends that are Giant fans about it 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: to subscribe. It's how you spread the word and get 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: more listeners and subscribers to the podcast. All right, let's 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: start with Will Hernandez, entering his fourth year as a 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: member of the Giants, perhaps changing positions to right guard. 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: Here's my chat with Will, and now we're joined by 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: Giants offensive lineman. Maybe I should say right guard. We'll 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: talk about it. That's Will Hernandez. Well, it's good to 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: see you man. First of all, Hey, thank you man, 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. All right, so, what has been 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: this adjustment few you've been out there playing right guard 20 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more I went back, I couldn't find 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: the last time you played on the right side. So 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: let's start there. Why don't you tell me when was 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: the last time you really played primarily on the right side. Um, well, 24 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: it would have we would have to go back to 25 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: high school. I played right guard in high school. I 26 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: think it was about a couple of years. Um. But 27 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's it's a little bit of an adjustment, 28 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: but you know it's all good. Keep keeps it, uh, 29 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: keeps things interesting and uh it gives me a new 30 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: new skill set in and uh, you know, a new 31 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: way to like, you know, have fun with the sport. 32 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: Did you have any muscle memory left from high school 33 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: or was that all gone? Yes, it wasn't really there. Yes, Uh, 34 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, the transition wasn't as bad as I thought. Um, 35 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: and it wasn't as complicated. Um. You know the first 36 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: couple of days once you got to get some reps 37 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: in you and you know you kind of start, you know, 38 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: getting out there and moving around. It kind of slowly starts. 39 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: You know, you start adapting to it, just like you 40 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: would anything else. Interesting. So what has it been like 41 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: working with Rob Sell, your new offensive line coach and 42 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: how much is different than what you're being taught previously. Oh, 43 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: it's been great. You know he's a great coach, you know, 44 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: very attention to detail. You know, he makes sure you 45 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: asked a lot of questions, make sure you have things down, 46 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: and you know it just helps you out, especially you 47 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: know when you uh, when you when you like going 48 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: over things over and over like I do. You know, 49 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: he's he's great for that. And you know he's always 50 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: there to make sure you you you understand things. If 51 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: now you can give it to you three different ways 52 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: so you can so you can get it. And uh, 53 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: it's it's been great. We had a chance to talk 54 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: to Duke Maryweather you're offseason trainer. What has it been 55 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: like working with him and what are some of the 56 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: things you guys are working on together to try to 57 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: take that next step for you as an offensive line. Yeah, yeah, Duke, 58 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: you know, he's a great coach. You know, we we 59 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: had a lot of fun out there, got a lot 60 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: of good working and uh, you know I learned a 61 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: lot as well. Um, you know, it was it was 62 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: great working out there. Uh. You know we right now 63 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: we were focusing on exactly that the position change and 64 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, making sure one I moved smoothly to you know, 65 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: I have you know, all the plays down, you know, 66 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: and three I can put them put them together pretty much. Um, 67 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: and yeah, that's exactly what we worked on this whole time. 68 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: We've even cross training and uh, you know, I'm just 69 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: focused on being the best, uh the best football player 70 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: or whatever position they put me. So that's that switches 71 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: and mostly just like swapping the footwork in the hands, 72 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: what hand comes first, you know, staggering all that sort 73 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: of stuff. Yeah, it's pretty much everything. Everything is pretty 74 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: much just backwards. You know, the left card position, you 75 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: got your right foot up, left foot back, right guard. 76 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: It's left foot up, right foot back, and uh, you 77 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: know hands the hand that goes down is different. And 78 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: then basically pretty much what you do is you you 79 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: flip flop the playbook in your head as well. Um. 80 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean at the end of the day, 81 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, the five positions on the offensive line, they're 82 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: all connected somehow, so you're able to connect the dots 83 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: pretty easily. And you know that's another thing that you know, 84 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: the coaches do great is they make sure everybody knows 85 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: on the officsive line what the other guy is doing 86 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: so when there is a chance or when there is 87 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: an opportunity for a guy to move positions or has 88 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: to move positions, it's not a completely new world to them, 89 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 1: and they kind of know, um, a little bit of 90 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: how to start and how to play it. How tough 91 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: was it for you last year coming back from all 92 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: your health stuff that you've dealt with mid season and 93 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: trying to rebound and get back onto the field. But 94 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, it affects so many people differently, 95 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: was that How tough was it for you to kind 96 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: of get back to your normal self, to get yourself 97 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: back out there on the field. I mean, it was 98 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: a it was a crazy, crazy experience, you know, dealing 99 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: with the COVID stuff and all that. But um, I think, 100 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, I think at the time, I was just 101 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: so uh focused on coming back and you know, just 102 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: playing and and being you know, being being able to 103 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: play back to the level. But before I got sick 104 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: and all that, so I didn't really notice how bad 105 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: it was until a few weeks a few a few 106 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: months later after I recovered. You know, it took that long. Huh. Well, 107 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I was good to play, you know, 108 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: I was. Yes, it took me a while to like, 109 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, after you really are, your body really does recuperate, 110 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: and then you kind of think back on how you 111 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: were before. Then you're like, oh, yeah I was, you know, 112 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: I was pretty bad. But um no, I mean it 113 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: was it was a crazy experience, but you know we 114 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: pushed through it. We we we got through it, and 115 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm good as ever now. And you're fully healthy now yea, 116 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: being been being fully healthy for a long time now. Awesome. 117 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: Final question for you, then, what are your major goals 118 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: this year? For Will Hernandez? You know, you head into 119 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: your fourth figure now it's a big year, a few 120 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: position change, Um, what are your big time goals? My 121 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: first goal is being able to help this team as 122 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: much as I can. UM with the with the first 123 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: with the position change being playing you know, if I'm 124 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: playing right guard, being the best right guard you know, 125 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,559 Speaker 1: and then uh after that is winning. You know, winning 126 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: is always you know what everybody why we're all here, 127 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: why we all trained, why we all do what we do. So, um, 128 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: I would definitely say, you know, help the team out 129 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: with being the best right guard possible and then also winning, well, 130 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: good stuff and we look forward to seeing you on 131 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: the field. That's Giants guard Will Hernandez. 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All right, now, let's 138 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: turn our attention to Shane Lemieux, a rookie last year 139 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: out of Oregon, a fifth round pick played left guard, 140 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: will once again compete first starting guard spot this year. 141 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: Now we're joined by second year Giants offensive lineman Shane Lemieu. Shane, 142 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: you basically became the primary starter for the more than 143 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: the second half of the year. Uh, talk a little 144 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: bit about some of the things you think you learned 145 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: being able to get that valuable on field experience as 146 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: a rookie. Yeah, anytime you can get in game experience, 147 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: it's it's extremely valuable, just to learn the speed of 148 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: the game because it's a lot different than practice. And 149 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: we got to play, you know, in an important December 150 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: football games with it's a lot it's obviously to be 151 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: the game sped up. So just getting those in game 152 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: reps um just made me feel more comfortable out there. 153 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: Anything catch you by surprise for lack of a better 154 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: way of asking the question that maybe you were a 155 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: little surprised by when you hit the field for the 156 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: first time in a real regular season NFL game. Yeah, 157 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: you know, I think every single every single rep, you 158 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: have to be at your best. It is unlike college, 159 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: where um, um, you can you can take a playoff, 160 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: I guess, so to speak, in the NFL, you have 161 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: to be ready every single play because I could take 162 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: advantage of you. So, yeah, what are some of the 163 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: things that you're really trying to work on heading into 164 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: your second year, just you know, being a better professional, 165 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: you know, being a pro learning. I learned a lot 166 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: from last year and just taking the nutrition, recovery in 167 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: the weight room, film, study all that to heart and 168 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: just put it on the field. I know in the 169 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: NFL a lot of times for guards, teams try to 170 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: isolate you guys on these very athletic three technique defensive tackles. 171 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: Right when what are some of the things that you 172 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: look at that are the keys for you to try 173 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: to improve to become a best, better past protector in 174 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: those situations. Yeah, I think I think it is all 175 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: comes back to the athleticism and the technique. We have 176 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: a good coach with Rob Sale, He's teaching us a 177 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: lot of good tech niques um and just you know, 178 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: just put that all in the field you you can 179 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: do in practice and practice. Reps really turns into game execution. 180 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: So just getting it right and practice. So it shows 181 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: up on tape on Sundays. What has it been like 182 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: that You've been the three offensive line coaches to last 183 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: and now Rob Sales coming in? What has that been 184 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: like for you? You know, it's an adjustment. But at 185 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: the same time, I feel like offensive line in general 186 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: has the same kind of philosophy with you know, coach 187 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: to coach, and you know, you block tight zone the 188 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: same as tight zone, different differentiating through coaches and stuff. 189 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: So I think it's just just more techniques and verbage, 190 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: just getting adjusted to it. And you know, I think 191 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: we're we're we adjust well. So yeah, so I actually 192 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: I want to think of that a little bit. What 193 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: does actually change? Is it? Actually? Is it things like 194 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: hand placement? Is it how you guys you know, moved 195 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: together on an outside zone for example. What are actually 196 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: some of the things that changing. Mostly it's mostly like 197 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: combo blocks of combination blocks, um the different techniques and 198 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: how you want to fit. And then it's it's verbage. 199 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: You know what you call these combination blocks? Would you 200 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: call your slide calls? What you you know? Because a 201 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: lot of the times the online coach brings it from 202 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: where he was at previous Sure, so that's that's the 203 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: biggest adjustment, honestly, but that's it's verbage. How value has 204 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: been actually be able to get on the field with 205 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: him and your whole offensive line group this offseason as 206 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: opposed to last year when you guys who do everything 207 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: on a computer screcture. You know, I think it's a 208 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: head started and before training camp, because training camp last 209 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: year we had a new line coach. Plus I was 210 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: new to the NFL, so everything was an extreme adjustment 211 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: coming in and I was, you know, I felt like 212 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: I was drinking water out of you know, a fire firehouse. 213 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: So it's good to be out here and learn the 214 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: techniques to get a jump start before training camp. How 215 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: important is it for you? And maybe you've developed it, 216 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: are ready to have that really good relationship with Andrew Thomas. 217 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: So many of these teams and Nick Gates for that matter, 218 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: run these stunts in these twists, the t ease eats 219 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: all that stuff for you guys to be able to 220 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: pass those off. It looked like you guys were really 221 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: getting a pretty good groove doing that at the end 222 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: of last year. Yeah, you know, I think it's the 223 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: more I know about Andrew, the more I picked Andrew's brain, 224 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: and the more I I know what he's thinking. You know, 225 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: when when stuff gets tough, I think it's it's better. 226 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: You know, I think, um, I Andrew and I got 227 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: some chemistry going. Nick and I got some chemistry going. 228 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: And it's just getting reps together because you know, you 229 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: have to you have to realize how deep Andrew sets 230 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: and you have to match that level. And then Nick 231 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: has to know, you know, when when he needs to 232 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: help and when he doesn't. And so it's just it's 233 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: all about chemistry and just getting reps together. Final question, 234 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: what are your goals for this year? Goals? This year's uh, 235 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: let's get better every singer game and simple appreciate the time. 236 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: Then that's Giants guard Shane Lemieu don't miss it on 237 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: your chance to experience a prer mirror hospitality experience watching 238 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: Giant games world class concerts in one is a Giant 239 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: Sweet partner. Limited full season locations are available or a 240 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: place at deposit for individual games called eight eight n 241 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: y give of hisit Giants dot com slash Sweets for 242 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: more information. All right, let's finish it off with Nick Gates, 243 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: Giants center. He started at center for the first time 244 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: last year, first time ever playing the position. We talked 245 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: about that and more with the Giants starting center in 246 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: and how would you run by Giants offensive lineman Nick Gates? 247 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: Nick last year and I don't want you to take 248 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: the store away, but in some ways did it feel 249 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: like a rookie year for you since it was your 250 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: first year at center? Or is that maybe a step 251 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: too far? Um, I'd say at the center position, definitely. 252 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: I mean I was learning, you know, a whole new 253 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: position coming into the season, and you know, the first 254 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: five games you can I mean, everybody watched it wasn't 255 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: They weren't great on my part, but you know, there's 256 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of learning curve in there for me. 257 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: But once I you know, kind of felt figured it 258 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: out and got comfortable. I was I was ready to roll. 259 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to get technical. Now. What were some 260 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: of the things that that you figured out that you 261 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: think helped you kind of flip that switch and become 262 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: better as the season went along. I think the basically 263 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: is just becoming comfortable at center and just snapping the 264 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: ball and making the calls, and just mentally, I think 265 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: the biggest thing was mentally for me, just you know, 266 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: making sure me and Daniel on the same page, and 267 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: you know, watching the film every week and making sure 268 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: you see the right things and you know, just seeing 269 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: the different things that that the defense starts actually making 270 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: the right call. Yeah, I'm not sure our fans have 271 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: quite the grass and how important it is. What do 272 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: those pre snap calls impact when you're when you're making 273 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: Daniels doing all the point that you guys are communicating. 274 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: How does that impact what happened on the actual plot 275 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: impacts the whole play. If we don't you don't get 276 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: everybody on the right guy, you're definitely not gonna be 277 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: able to get the ball out. Or if you know 278 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: you can't, you don't get everybody pointed the right way, 279 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to run the ball well. 280 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: And this is in terms of like either sliding protection left, 281 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: sliding right and everything the mic all that stuff right exactly, 282 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: I left right, I mean you got a slide side. 283 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: That's three you guys, usually the man side back side, 284 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: and they need to know who's who's who, and who 285 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: the left side has and who's who the back has 286 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: and everything interesting. So and then then I will impact too. 287 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: So let's take the next step now, once you get 288 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: the pre snap done and then snap comes and let's 289 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: say we saw this a lot earlier in this season, especially, 290 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: teams run all those stunts, right, the T T twist 291 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: and the T E twist and all that stuff. At 292 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: what point does the communication kick in for you guys 293 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: where you pass those off correctly and you have the 294 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: right depth and all that sort of stuff. Um, A 295 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: lot of that is just you know, pre snap stuff, 296 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: just being up to see what alignment they're in and 297 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: see which where the defense is rotated along with the 298 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: safeties and stuff like that, and what you know, what 299 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: kind of technique the defense got defense linemen are using, 300 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: and you know, just a little the like where their 301 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: hands placed or which flits up which flits back, and 302 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: that's just a lot of things you see on film, 303 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: so it's not so much like after this snapp it. 304 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: So you're just reacting at that point, you know, you 305 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: just you know, you did a lot of your work 306 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: up front, and you know, watching film and doing things 307 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: like that. Interesting, how much an impact you then and 308 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: the line when you guys had to have that mid 309 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: season coaching switch on the old line, how much how 310 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: much really changed for you guys or or did they 311 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: really try to just make it a smooth transition given 312 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: how important old this stuff is you're talking. Yeah, it 313 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: was definitely difficult. It's always definitely difficult to lose a 314 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: coach that you know, ever we loved in the room, 315 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: and it just it is what it is. You know. 316 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: It just stuff happens and you just gotta roll with 317 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: it and you know, the business. So it's just the 318 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: way it is. And uh, they didn't really try to 319 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: do too much with this playbook. Stayed the same, call, 320 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: stayed the same, and you know, just a little technique, 321 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: a little tuning here to a little tuning there that 322 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: you know the new coach wanted to have. Well, now 323 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: the good news you have Rob Sale now, but you 324 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: get to working on for a whole off season and 325 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: actually you're having spring practice. Who knew this was a thing, right, 326 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: It's all right, it's crazy. I'm happy to be act. 327 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: You know, we're young offen SiGe and we definitely need it. 328 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: So what has it been like working with Coachell? Oh? 329 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: He's awesome. He's a good coach, good teacher. You know, 330 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: you learn, you're learning something new with them every day 331 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: and he's he's just a good person too. So what 332 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: are some of the things that he's focusing in on 333 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: you guys so your young offensive line can grow together 334 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: like you talked about and kind of take that next step. 335 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: Just trying to like simplify and make everything easier. I 336 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: would say, just like calls and just you know, teaching 337 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: technique just simpler and just making it easy, like less, 338 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: making sure we could just play faster. Basically, how much 339 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: what types of things change? Is it in more individual 340 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: technique how you set your feet, where your hand placement is, 341 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: or is it more how you guys are working together 342 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: on like outside zones and combo blocks, second level stuff 343 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: both there's you know, there's definitely things you need to 344 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: critique and and fine tune and technique wise, and that's 345 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: what he's doing right now. I think that's a big 346 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: thing right now, just tuning your technique and then once 347 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: the season comes, I think it's more like, you know, 348 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: communication and calls and making sure everbody's on the same 349 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: page when it comes to that stuff. From the outside 350 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: looking in, it looked like from our perspective that after 351 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: that by the offensive line really seemed to lock in 352 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: right and the play really improved. Did you guys get 353 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: that same feel being on the field together and watching 354 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: did you guys go through this tape methodically after every game? 355 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: Was it much better? You guys think after the buy 356 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: as well? That four game win streak we went on 357 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: last year, I feel like we really came together right there. 358 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: I can't remember that was before. I think it was 359 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: a couple of game before a couple after we started 360 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: to come together and everything just started to click. And 361 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, once you start winning, it's contagious. And you know, 362 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: the building was fun to be around and just everybody 363 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: was having a good time and winning winning ball games. 364 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: How much room still is there to grow for this 365 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: young offensive line? As you you know, do more together, 366 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: you might have will now on your right hand side. 367 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: He was on your left hand side previously. You know 368 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: Matt will have a chance to win that right tackle spot. 369 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: So what's not the growing process? What's what's the ceiling 370 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: for this group? As you guys play more together. I 371 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: feel like there's no ceiling to us. You just gotta 372 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: go out there and play the football kind of football. 373 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: We know how to put a and you know, we're 374 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: a young group and if we can figure it out 375 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: all together, we could we could be playing together for 376 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: a long time. And I feel like that's the best 377 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: best for offensive line is when you get together and 378 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: you play for three or four or five years together 379 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: and you guys, you just you guys know know what 380 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: to do with each other without even communicating it. And 381 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: is that mostly individual improvement or is that I hate 382 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: that we use the word chemistry. It's so overblown, But 383 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: just your ability to to work together so you work 384 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: properly as a five man unit to protect together. Yeah, 385 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: it's just just knowing what to do on every plane, 386 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: usually knowing you know what the person next to you 387 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: is going to do. And it is chemistry. It's just 388 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, maybe working together basically, so and the only 389 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: way you can get better that by is doing it right. 390 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: It's all reps and that's a big thing about offensive 391 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: line play. It's all reps and you know, just being 392 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: able to just do it over and over and over 393 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: and over again. And finally, I'm sure you guys are excited. 394 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: Look like you kind of got the run blocking figured 395 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: out a little bit as you moved along. Unfortunately, I 396 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: think by that time healthy anymore. How excited you to 397 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: kind of keep this, you know, more of that gap 398 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: scheme downhill running style you adapted and now inserts Kwon Barkley. 399 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, it's um. We's definitely starting to pick 400 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: it up there towards the end. And you know, we're 401 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: we're a good Russian team there. I think we went 402 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: on like I think it was like six or seven 403 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: games in a row we rushed over a hundred yards, 404 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: which is just pretty good. But it'll be it'll be 405 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: good back he's just a freak athlete and he it 406 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: looks like the hole is blocked up, and he'll he'll 407 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: find a way and pop it out the backside or 408 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: take it out the front side, and it just it 409 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: just pops for yard runs sometimes and that's just what 410 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: Kuan can do. Let me I see this too, because 411 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: I think it's when I see it on Tim. I'm 412 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: curious if you guys see the impact on the field too. 413 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: Once Daniel became that running threat, right and teams had 414 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: to keep that backside defender there so he doesn't keep 415 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: it and go. Did you see that have a real 416 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: impact on how defenses can load up and try to 417 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: stop you guys in the run game. And definitely that 418 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: definitely helps out with the cutbacks and things like that 419 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: opens that hold up a little more and instead of 420 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: making and making an arm tackle now it's uh, you know, 421 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: there's usually none of that there. And there's a guy 422 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: that asks to respect Daniel because you can pull them 423 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: all and run and run a long way too. Oh yeah, 424 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: definitely make good stuff. Appreciate it, appreciate thanks. We thank 425 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: the Gates for joining us, and we also thank Shane 426 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: Lemiue and Will Hernandez on the Giant Hubtle podcast, which 427 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: you can find at giants dot com, slash podcast at 428 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: Giants Mobile app, and on your favorite podcast platforms. Find 429 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: the subscribe. If you're on an Apple podcast, please leave 430 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: a five star positive review. It helps the podcast. 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