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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast will Never Die. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Kansas, and I am joined by a

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes and I mean it. Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosatal. What's up boys? All right?

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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday to everybody? Uh oh, west did I was

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Speaker 1: just going through my tweets for a little exercise that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do in a few minutes. But I did

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Speaker 1: tweet yesterday on the On on the Conversation of all

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Speaker 1: Our Dad Rock Talk on Wednesday show that I overheard

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Speaker 1: someone in the newsroom got engaged at a third Eye Blind,

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Speaker 1: Third Eye Blind concert and then too smart Alex I'll

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Speaker 1: call them, replied, was it West And you replied one

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Speaker 1: word block. I'm legitimately curious. Did you actually block those people? No,

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Speaker 1: I was just having fun with them. I did not

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Speaker 1: legitimately curious if how how deep you're blocking? Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: vengeance goes well. I think it'd be fair if you

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Speaker 1: found out someone that you follow God engaged at a

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Speaker 1: Third Eye Blind concert that is worthy of blocking them.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that got engaged during the current incarnation

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Speaker 1: know who this is a recent engagement. Blindly, Third Eye

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Speaker 1: Blind is a weird career arc that they are kind

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Speaker 1: fact point where they're selling out the Hollywood Bowl currently.

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Speaker 1: It's a very strange situation with I mean, our show

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Speaker 1: could take the same exact true objectory um on the

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Speaker 1: subject of all our Dad rock Um conversation and chance

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Speaker 1: the rapper mark, which gives us our bona fides. You

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Speaker 1: know we're cool too. I listened. I listened. I Hey,

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Speaker 1: I told you that I would. Instead of just critiquing

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Speaker 1: you know, premature, I went and listened to quite a

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Speaker 1: here's some tweets. People will have their own opinions, okay. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Sam Shepherd tweets Aaron Rodgers equals Oasis came out huge

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Speaker 1: over fighting with family members. It's a terrible, terrible comparison.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers had the best season you know, maybe any

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks had years after his first Super Bowl win a title?

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Speaker 1: Isn't Sam Shepherd the One Armed Man? Sam Shephard the

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Speaker 1: actor slash playwright? Is that? Is that a fugitive joke? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think that the Wasn't that his name, Sam Shepherd?

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Speaker 1: Maybe because it did ring a bell there? I think

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Speaker 1: Harrison Ford, I don't know the television show. That's probably

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Speaker 1: what you grow up with based on one of the

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Speaker 1: great true crime stories of American history. The Fugitive is

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Speaker 1: my favorite movie of the nineties other than Showshank Redemption.

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Speaker 1: I love The Fugitive. What a movie. Tommi Lee Jones,

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Speaker 1: Harrison Ford, please see it? And Tropic thunder Right. I

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Speaker 1: to borrow it. Remember, Greg was born as a thirty

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Speaker 1: seen The Fugitive. This doesn't even make any sense. But

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Speaker 1: like I've seen just as many movies. Here's another one.

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Speaker 1: Eli is Jacob Dylan two hits and a lot of

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Speaker 1: for his last name. This doesn't make Peyton Bob Okay lousy.

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Speaker 1: Husband's the name of that Twitter handle? That's pretty good,

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Speaker 1: Andy Georgean rights. Joe Flacco is a limp biscuit. Tough

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Speaker 1: be a music fan. He's from Ohio. Steve Young is

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Speaker 1: Gannet Jackson is way better than Eli Manning. Janet Janet

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Speaker 1: Tom Savage comp is The Wonders, the Tom Hanks directed picture.

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Speaker 1: That movie. Yeah, great movie came out of nowhere to popularity.

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Speaker 1: Not real so fun, a fun little exercise. Uh and um, finally,

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Speaker 1: the list. I don't need to do expert. Thanks Bill Goodell.

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Speaker 1: get to we are what what are we? Two weeks

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Speaker 1: five tom Brady and then back to back Cowboys, which

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Speaker 1: should never be surprising, but especially this year. And I

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Speaker 1: would have thought one of these guys would have been

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Speaker 1: number one, Ezekiel Elliott, then Dak Prescott, Odell Beckham Jr.

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Speaker 1: Who will get to a little bit more in a second,

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Speaker 1: and then ground at number five and um, some fun

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Speaker 1: facts about the Jerseysbaldy likes fun facts, all right. Fun

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Speaker 1: facts are fun. That's what they calling fun facts. Buying

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Speaker 1: time over here, You're you're going to provide something. No

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Speaker 1: one's helping you out. Good job, guys. Um, here we go,

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Speaker 1: and do you still have an opportunity to anybody could

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Speaker 1: say anything they want right now about football or life

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Speaker 1: while I'm looking for something I would I would not

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Speaker 1: purchase a jersey right now if someone were to give

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Speaker 1: it to me for five dollars. Yeah, neither, Well, no interest,

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Speaker 1: and I would assume West would not either. Well, I

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Speaker 1: could get a jersey for five bucks, and I knew

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Speaker 1: someone someone who minus the three gifting aspect. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to say anything bad about my employer, but no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not carrying much respect for grown men walking around

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Speaker 1: with jerseys. Yeah, well it does. It starts to look

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Speaker 1: a little strange. I don't wanna s on anybody that

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Speaker 1: listens to the podcast that's an adult that wears the jersey,

447
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Speaker 1: but not everybody pulls it off. And some people pull

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. You only wear it going

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Speaker 1: to the game. That's that's that's fine. That's fine. I'm

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Speaker 1: fine with that at the stadium and stuff. Sure, just

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Speaker 1: don't wear it to like a christening, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, Like especially there, you know, don't wear it.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're going out to the bar with your buddies

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Speaker 1: and you're not going to watch the game. It's like

455
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Speaker 1: May and you're going to watch the Cubs. You know.

456
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Speaker 1: Don't wear your alshon Jeffrey jersey at the bar, even

457
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Speaker 1: if your name's Jeffrey. Yeah, plus a Sean Jeffrey jersey.

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Speaker 1: It really has no use anymore in Chicago. Don't show

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Speaker 1: up with your Tony Romo Mavericks jersey. By the way,

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Speaker 1: those talk about cash grabs, those were sold for like

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Speaker 1: a hundred dollars at the Dallas Mavericks Arena for that

462
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Speaker 1: that whole situation on Tuesday where he sat on the bench.

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Speaker 1: Uh sold out every Romo related uh uh merch there

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Speaker 1: everything so money anyway, three Patriots in the total. In

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Speaker 1: the top twenty five, Brady gront because I told you

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Speaker 1: Julian Edelman came in I think at fifteen, which is

467
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Speaker 1: pretty crazy too. But uh, and zero representatives from the

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Speaker 1: other three af C East team you could, Uh, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty accurate summation of the state of that division. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Defense may win championships, it's not really true. Offense drives commerce.

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Speaker 1: Only four of the top twenty top Jersey sellers play defense.

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Speaker 1: None in the top ten. Von Miller at eleven was

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Speaker 1: the highest. And a shout out to J. J. Watt,

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Speaker 1: who gives some heat around here. But hanging in the

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Speaker 1: top twenty five despite basically not playing last year, that's

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good. I wanna throw some shade at three

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Speaker 1: states in the Union, Okay, Brady original Union r the

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Speaker 1: that's just the yeah, the the entire Union. This is

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Speaker 1: the state of the Union dress on Jersey's more Brady fun.

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Speaker 1: He he was a top seller in all the New

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Speaker 1: England states, makes sense, but he also finished first in Nevada, Utah, Hawaii, Michigan, Illinois,

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Speaker 1: and Florida. Okay, those first three states, they don't have

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Speaker 1: an NFL team at least none of them do yet.

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Speaker 1: But the last three Michigan, Okay, Michigan went there, but

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Speaker 1: Illinois and Florida guys Florida a lot of transplants come.

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Speaker 1: That's a little embarrassing teams Florida, those three teams lately,

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Speaker 1: How is Florida grandparents buying their grandchildren online? Sales from

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Speaker 1: Florida are simply gifts going somewhere else in the country.

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Speaker 1: Patriots jerseys for kids somewhere else. Is that how this works?

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Speaker 1: It's not, it's not, it's not necessarily it's just store bought.

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Speaker 1: I think it's where like if you I would have,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I'm not. I'm not involved in this industry.

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Speaker 1: But like where you're you know, your computers coming out

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Speaker 1: of what city, what town, what region? That would be

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Speaker 1: sales for Florida, not some other stap looking for the

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Speaker 1: next the next face of the NFL. Keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on Dak Prescott, who had the best selling jersey in

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Speaker 1: nine states, including Maryland and Tennessee. How about that. But

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Speaker 1: there's a bunch of there's a bunch of people out

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00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: there that aren't fans of a certain team at all.

501
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: They just love a player and they love the Cowboys, Colors,

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00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: Raiders jerseys have sold uniformly across the country for years.

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Speaker 1: And it's not all because of these people are hardcore

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Speaker 1: Raiders fans. Uh. Moving on one other end around tibod

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham UH sent out an instagram on Wednesday of

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Speaker 1: a new tattoo. It covers basically from above just above

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Speaker 1: his ankle, his right ankle, all the way up to

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Speaker 1: right beneath his knee, so the entire span of his

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Speaker 1: calf a large um uh exquisitely rendered of Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Um looking it looks like Michael Jackson circa four range

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Speaker 1: around the Thriller album with the with a comment tatted

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Speaker 1: on me, but that ish is deeper than the surface.

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Speaker 1: Now I have a theory on this, but Mark, I'll

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Speaker 1: start with you. What do you think Odell Beckham means

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Speaker 1: when he writes tatted on me, but that ish is

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Speaker 1: deeper than the surface. Well, I saying the image is

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Speaker 1: on my skin. But my feelings from Michael Jackson since

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Speaker 1: I was very young, they come from He's affected my heart.

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Speaker 1: I love Michael Jackson. Odell Beckham is saying that's that's

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Speaker 1: pretty good, that's very good out and that's kind of

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Speaker 1: what I wrote about all there's an ego factor at

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Speaker 1: work here too, go on with, Well, he sees a

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Speaker 1: lot of similarities between himself, he identifies with Michael Jackson. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's what I hit at, that he sees

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Speaker 1: a lot of himself. He was, you know, a once

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Speaker 1: in a generation talent, universally praised for his gifts, but

527
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Speaker 1: relentlessly scrutinized by the publican press. That's checks it checks

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Speaker 1: out on a lower level. Though Michael Jackson was one

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Speaker 1: of the most famous people in the entire world, maybe

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Speaker 1: the most famous person in the world, Beckham can exhibit

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Speaker 1: odd behavior at times and feels that he's misunderstood. Michael

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Speaker 1: Jackson certainly was that way. Uh, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: get it. The guy that has it all Jackson, I

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Speaker 1: was an sees he sees a different man in the mirror.

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Speaker 1: He sees Michael Jackson. It's just it's people. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was very nicely done. People will Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: let's hear some Michael Jackson music. Let's right now if

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Speaker 1: you are and there are some kids out there listening

539
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Speaker 1: to the show. MJ hasn't had a number one hit

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Speaker 1: in twenty one years. I looked at twenty two years,

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Speaker 1: almost eight years since his death, so you might not

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Speaker 1: even be familiar with the King of pop. Here is

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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson or effects simile of Michael Jackson. Let's hear it.

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Speaker 1: Turn this up please. He was just a man, serve

545
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: the groove. But also you could hear that vocal acrobatics.

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00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: It's like a fac simile of jet sweat or something.

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Speaker 1: A lot of love making going out. After listening to that,

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Speaker 1: you know they have that Super Bowl babies, so they're

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Speaker 1: gonna have the Around the NFL Podcast April twelfth, episode

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Speaker 1: commerce nobody was asking for that analysis that was turned

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Speaker 1: back the clock to what was the seduction Fridays? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember seduction Fridays. I don't remember what our stitcher

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00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: looks like that. Um, And that's it. And finally in

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Speaker 1: the news, Jeff Cumberland, my boy, he signed a deal

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Speaker 1: I believe with the Chargers. They brought him back. Resigns

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Speaker 1: with the Charges Blues Achilles last year. Last time he

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Speaker 1: was in the news, the former Jets tight end was

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Speaker 1: getting booed at the Staples Center shortly after the Chargers

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Speaker 1: announced their move to Los Angeles. I've been believe at

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Speaker 1: a King's game or something really strange. Maybe it was Clippers,

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Speaker 1: but very strange. Come be one of your one of

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Speaker 1: your all time favorites. That's why he makes the show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he would not make the show. He was a rigidly

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Speaker 1: and this will tie back into something later on in

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Speaker 1: the show today, a rigidly uh middling tight end. But

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Speaker 1: he occasionally made a play and frankly probably was the

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Speaker 1: most productive tight end the Jets have had in five years,

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Speaker 1: or at least since Dustin Keller went bye bye. And

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Speaker 1: that is a dark, dark situation. That's what's happening in

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Speaker 1: the news. All right, here we go, let's talk about well,

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Speaker 1: get some of the m J light music underneath that commercial.

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Speaker 1: That feels a little more planning to wear my days

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Speaker 1: for the video show them all not not with nothing

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Speaker 1: else on, but saying underneath the rest of my work clothes. Also,

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Speaker 1: they're doing a photo shoot for the podcast tomorrow, so everybody,

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Speaker 1: lest you might want to put the flannel the way

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Speaker 1: tomorrow because the cameras. Excuse me, that looks good on

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Speaker 1: you though. Yeah, but he's gotta he's got a paramour

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Speaker 1: in his life that will not want that. I was

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Speaker 1: told by a the head of photography at NFL Media

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Speaker 1: that you know, be ready for the cameras to be

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Speaker 1: there because these pictures could end up on a wall

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Speaker 1: at NFL Networks. So what are you wearing? Not know that?

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Speaker 1: I don't that he might have to hit up an

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Speaker 1: a Republic, have to get a new shirt, certainly need one.

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Speaker 1: Maybe this is the occasion. I mean, I've got about

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Speaker 1: five or six to choose from, like most of us

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Speaker 1: in here, so I don't it's not going to be

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Speaker 1: that's spectacular. You're going to Banana Republic to buy a

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Speaker 1: shirt for this, and but West is the one to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on here because West has the man

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Speaker 1: cannon to choose from. You have several, uh of these shirts,

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Speaker 1: these plaid shirts. You have the shirts that you're paramore

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Speaker 1: kind of put on you if you will. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: used to have my own style. Now it's borrowed. So

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Speaker 1: maybe all right, this will be aren't you guys interested?

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Speaker 1: It almost will be a peek into where West's relationship

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Speaker 1: is what shirt he'll be wearing tomorrow. I would say

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Speaker 1: that this shirt might be the most loath loath shirt

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Speaker 1: in my collection. According to the paramore, it's a great shirt.

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Speaker 1: I like the shirt. I like. I think it's west.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna tweet it out. Okay, here we go. What

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Speaker 1: are the draft fits you want to see? Is the

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Speaker 1: talking point right now? Uh? The draft is a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks away, so uh, let's go around and talk

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Speaker 1: about it. Uh, And Chris, I'm gonna start with you. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I want to hear the man in the orange plaid

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Speaker 1: shirt what he has to say. What is a draft

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Speaker 1: fit that he would love to see in? Well, we

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Speaker 1: talked about this on Network Hit uh Tuesday about the

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Speaker 1: two thousand four draft class, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be smart for all of those teams, and

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, especially the Giants to get a quarterback

636
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: in a draft where the best quarterbacks are expect expected

637
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: to fall because they're not gonna be ready for a

638
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: year or two or three years. So I think I

639
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: would like to see Patrick Mahomes on the New York Giants.

640
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: That would be a fit that I like. I think

641
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: Mahomes and yeah, we don't dig into tons of draft

642
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: stuff draft prospects, but his name's his name has been

643
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: rising steadily and he's an he's an interesting guy's super

644
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: strong arm. I think any team that would that needs

645
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: a quarterback. If you were, if you were, if you

646
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: wasn't one of those top five picks, and you ran

647
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: into him, it would be very interesting. The Giants, I

648
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: could see the fit. I don't know if they need

649
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: to go invest super high this year if I'm the Giants,

650
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: but you are not any line manning believer, and you

651
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: see that career arc ending so well. In point of fact,

652
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: he held that team back last year. So if you

653
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: see yourself as a championship caliber defense and the surrounding

654
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: town on offenses right there too, it makes sense for

655
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: some protection in a Jimmy g kind of way where

656
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: if your quarterback goes sideways, not only or you protected

657
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: if he gets hurt, you're protective, but an extended slump

658
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: you might have to turn to something. I think you

659
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: gotta get in front of it. You can't wait. You

660
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: can't wait around until the point where you need a quarterback,

661
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: because then you're the Browns or the Texans, or the

662
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: Bear is paying too much, or Mike Glennon or the

663
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: Rams giving up way too much for Jared Gough. I

664
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: think quarterbacks are so much more valuable than the entire

665
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: rest of the team that what the Patriots have done

666
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: maybe it'll start a trend. Like take They've taken three

667
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: guys in the first three rounds during the last what

668
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: seven or eight years, Mallet, Garoppolo, and Brissette, And that's

669
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: the way to do it. You gotta plane ahead. And

670
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: it's okay if you blow on the pick slices off

671
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: that Jake brisk You you blow on a lot of picks.

672
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: You blow on half, you mess up half your picks anyways,

673
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: So if you have a one in three chance of

674
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: finding a quarterback that you end up really liking, like

675
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: a Jimmy Garppolo, those guys are so valuable that the

676
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: Patriots won't even trade him. And that's why I think

677
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: that the Steelers it makes a lot of sense for

678
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: them as well to make a to make a move here, because, yeah,

679
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: nobody was buying into Ben Roethlisberger retiring this year, and

680
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: he probably won't retire next year. He might not even

681
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: retire the year after that. But you know, it's good

682
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: to have somebody waiting in the wing, somebody you can develop.

683
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: So if you can trade up. Let's say that if

684
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: the Steelers traded up into the top of the second

685
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: round and and got one of these, like one of

686
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: the first quarterbacks off the board. I don't think it

687
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: means that the Steelers think it's that been big Ben's

688
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: gonna follow through on his threat. I think they're they're

689
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: being smart, just like the Patriots are smart, and they're

690
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: really they're reaping the benefits of them. But my only

691
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: caution is that it was accepted months ago that there

692
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: just is not a premier quarterback in this draft on

693
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: any level, and good teams, good teams should just draft quarterbacks.

694
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: Bad teams straft quarterbacks every year. I'd be fine taking

695
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: a quarterback every season for the sake if you never

696
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: know when you're gonna hit on someone up in the

697
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: middle rounds. But they're the idea that rivers manning in

698
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 1: Big Ben, who all were picked in the top eleven

699
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: picks in two thousand four, and it should have been one,

700
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: two and three. If you look what's happened that give

701
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: me a break. That's not an obvious era apparent to

702
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: these guys. It's still it's still a complete question mark.

703
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: It might not be a first round, but next year's

704
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: class has is by this point seems much much deeper

705
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: in your rock below was a late second round pick.

706
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: You know a lot of these guys. You know Andy

707
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: Dalton was a second pick. I think it could be

708
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: a third round pick. Maybe it's not even the top

709
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: names that we're hearing about. I think it's just just

710
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: start making some investments. What you said wasn't exactly what

711
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: we heard about the quarterbacks. It wasn't there there weren't

712
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: any good ones. Was that the best quarterbacks are not

713
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: ready to play right now. So in that sense, I

714
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: think it makes I think it makes a lot of

715
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: sense for a guy who's got talent but won't be

716
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: ready to play for a couple of years. It does

717
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: make sense for these times. I have no problem swinging

718
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: on a quarter like over and over and over. That

719
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: position should be as deep as you can make it.

720
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: But I just don't. I don't think any of these

721
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: teams are saying the air apparent is here, And maybe

722
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: that's that's not the argument, But I guess the counter

723
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: to that is just because people are talking at this

724
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: stage that there isn't a franchise quarterback in the in

725
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: this group of names, it doesn't mean that that's true.

726
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you never know if you if one of

727
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: these teams trust their in house guys and they and

728
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: they Stealers have secretly fall in love with some of

729
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: these got one of these guys are the Giants or

730
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: the Chargers or whoever. You know, it's more power to them.

731
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I don't if you're looking for someone

732
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: this year to be the guy you're you're in just

733
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: the same situation as all these teams in the top five, six,

734
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: seven that probably aren't going to take quarterbacks. I mean,

735
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: these teams have to realize looking at quarterbacks that those

736
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: guys don't really happen, and if they do, only the

737
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: top you know, two people, two teams get to take

738
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: them anyways. I mean, even great, very good rookie quarterbacks

739
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: like Jamis Winston and Marcus Mariota, like they could have

740
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: used it wouldn't have hurt them. I don't think necessarily

741
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: to sit out their rookie season. It's not like they're

742
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: lighting the world on fire. And those are the best

743
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: of the very best. The whole position could use more patients.

744
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're seeing some bad teams burned

745
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: through quarterbacks that go on to play. I'm not seeing

746
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: their starters, but they're going to have eight nine more

747
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: years in the league and they're mildly productive because they

748
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: burnt out his first and second round picks where there's

749
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: too much pressure and then coaches are getting fired. Like

750
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: the whole position. You look at how quarterbacks were groomed

751
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: thirty years ago, it is completely different. Um, Greg, what

752
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: do you want to see? What I want to see? Yeah?

753
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: I like running backs. Running Backs fun position to watch,

754
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: makes the team a little more interesting. And there's there's

755
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 1: two teams out there picking towards the top of the draft,

756
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: and I'm not breaking any uh news here that they

757
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: might be looking at running back. But what I would

758
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: really like to see number one the Carolina Panthers use

759
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: their number one pick on a running back, take off

760
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: some heat off of Cam Newton, make that offense more

761
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: fun to watch. Again. If Leonard four Nett fell there,

762
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: that just seems like a perfect fit. We don't know

763
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: if he's gonna get that far because the other team

764
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking about is that Jacksonville Jaguars. I want

765
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: to watch these Jaguars. I want them to be fun,

766
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: and this running back class is great at the top four.

767
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: NET could fit in Jacksonville. Maybe it's Dalvin Cook, maybe

768
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 1: it's McCaffrey. I don't really know like how it's gonna

769
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: shake out, but seeing those two of those three names

770
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: fall to those two teams, I think it's gonna those

771
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: two teams more fun to watch. And especially the Panthers,

772
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm with you West you you picked them as a

773
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: as a potential NFC power sleeper last week, and I

774
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: think they could get back there with just a couple

775
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: of fun moves, and this would be one of them.

776
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: I'd like to see them trade ahead of the Jaguars.

777
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: Take Leonard format for NET. That would be great. I

778
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: love the fit that you got a You got a

779
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: quality running back in Jonathan Stewart who no longer has

780
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: big playability. If you start mixing in Leonard for NETT,

781
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: and now you've got a guy who's compared to a

782
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: young Adrian Peterson, you're lighting defenses on fire. I have

783
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: a hard time disagreeing with the fit. The Panthers absolutely needed,

784
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: and don't get too smart. I'll throw in another team

785
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: and Greg, you're not gonna like to hear this, but

786
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: you have to understand that it's not personal. We're talking sports.

787
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: It's not something to take too seriously. Okay, I'm gonna

788
00:43:53,600 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: preface it. Okay, Okay, it's making eyes at It's time.

789
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: Is that what that was? It's time for the Colts

790
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: to do better than Frank Gore. Yeah, And and you

791
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: want to talk about taking heat off somebody. I talked

792
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: to Greg and the huddle about this about how how's

793
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: that Cults old line going? And like, if you're a

794
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: Cults fan, you're kind of talking yourself into it a

795
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: little bit. So Okay, then I won't. I won't. I

796
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: won't pound the table for them to get a top tackle,

797
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: which we might not have any in this draft anyway.

798
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 1: So how about the Cults get aggressive? And they've tried before, Mark,

799
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: you might remember the Cults trying before to find their

800
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: solution in the backfield calling up the Cleveland Browns. That

801
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: didn't work out with Trent Richardson. But how about they

802
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: get aggressive, get four net in there. Let Frank Gore,

803
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: who had a nice one thousand yards season, but didn't

804
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: even average four yards to carry. Uh, let's be fairies,

805
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: thirty four years old. Uh, and you know, let's make

806
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: some Let's make some magic and give Andrew Luck some

807
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: help back there West. You had something nice on your

808
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: paper too. I've gotten McCaffrey to the cults. Oh oh,

809
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: I think it's coming from a scientist to Greg. That's

810
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: that's gotta bother you. Frank Gore has had a fine career,

811
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 1: but he's a liability. At this stage you need a playmaker. Well,

812
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: what he did was help plug a hole that they

813
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: needed with professionalism and solid production. He should not be

814
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: their lead running back at this point. Of course, he's

815
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: thirty four years old. What they got out of him

816
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: last year is a lot better than any of you

817
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: jackals expected when you were panning that, and it worked

818
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: out for them. But you know, it worked out fine

819
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: for them. But I don't have any problem. Yes, he would,

820
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: he would probably be better off with with less carries.

821
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: I'd imagine the cults would fully agree. They can't have

822
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: big plans for Frank Gore. This and their backup right

823
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: now is who Robert Turbin. Robert Turbin, So I trust

824
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: the cult anything. I do trust the Ballard. Ballard I

825
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: think has a much better take on what to do

826
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: with this team. He's what does that mean? Give him

827
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: a chance. I like what we've seen out of old

828
00:45:49,480 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: Ballard so far. Does that include? I like what is happening?

829
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: And who knows? Who knows what these running backs. Part

830
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: of the reason I thought of the Jaguars was because

831
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: I was watching some t J yelled in tape for

832
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: for for a piece, yeah, and he was He was

833
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: supposed to be someone that was like, Oh, that's the

834
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: safe running back, like you know, plug and play. Maybe

835
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: he's not great, but that's the safe running back. So

836
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: you never know what these guys um. I'll get rid

837
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: of him. I'll throw it out there and I want to,

838
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, I canna talk about my team and New

839
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 1: York Jets. You know, they have not taken a player

840
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: on offense in the first round since two thousand and nine,

841
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez, number five overall. They traded up to get

842
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: Mark and it looked like it was gonna work out

843
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: for a couple of years and then it did not.

844
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: Uh And ever since then, every single year they have

845
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: gone defense defense, defense, which you know tells you a

846
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: lot about the their their internal structuring that they now

847
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: and after eight straight years of doing that, they don't

848
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: have a great defense. Uh, and their offense is stripped there.

849
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: So that's why and I love to move the sticks.

850
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: Brought it up as a possibility on Pay to the Draft.

851
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: Uh're gonna be ignored. Tripe down Daniel. Um the the

852
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: idea of O. J. Howard that the Alabama tight end

853
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: to the Jets uh with the sixth overall pick, and

854
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: that is the area where Howard's gonna go. He's gonna

855
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: go top ten. It sounds like and if you watched

856
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: him at all, and I my watching of him extended

857
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: not further than the college football playoffs, but I could

858
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: tell you that this is exactly the type of game

859
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: changer that the Jets desperately need right now, especially after

860
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: um they got rid of Brandon Marshall. And I think

861
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: Eric Ducker is gonna go to the way if you

862
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: read the tea leaves about where this team is going

863
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: and where Decker probably wants to go in his age

864
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: thirty one season. UM, the Jets need to start building

865
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 1: around somebody they're gonna In an ideal world, I think

866
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: the Jets play things um conservatively at the quarterback position

867
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: this year. We've talked about that scam for Sam and

868
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: looking ahead to a better draft class. But while you're

869
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: doing that, you, while you're waiting there patiently, you could

870
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: start to build the offense and getting O. J. Howard

871
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: at tight end, an offensive player at a position the

872
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: Jets have ignored like no other team maybe an NFL

873
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: history in the last couple of years. Chan Gailey had

874
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 1: no need for a tight end historically low level, low

875
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: levels of production in recent years. Get Howard in there,

876
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: start remaking this offense, and you get a top flight

877
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: tight end in a way they go. You were right

878
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: about ignoring the position. I I looking up and down

879
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: the tight end rosters of every single team. I can't

880
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: find one with a worse lineup than the Jets with

881
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: three guys that I would say, outside of US, Austin

882
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: Seferian Jenkins who flamed out in Tampa Bay, three other

883
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: guys who have no name recognition at all, the average

884
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: van would never have heard of the other three tight

885
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: ends there, and for a year at worked by the way,

886
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: the Jets had I think six catches total at a

887
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: tight end in two thousand and fifteen, and they were

888
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: a top ten offense in the whole league. But then

889
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: when things didn't click the way they were hoping last year,

890
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: it once again was it seemed like they were playing

891
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 1: in another generation with one hand tied behind their back

892
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: like that one. I believe that would be the highest

893
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: tight end has been drafted since the Browns drafted Kellen

894
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: Winslow over Big Band thirteen years ago. And before that.

895
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 1: I don't think they're Vernon Davis. Where did he go six?

896
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: I think? But right? But he was right. He was

897
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: a year or two after Winslow. You're you're absolutely right.

898
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: When was the last time t Ebron went tenth? But

899
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: the last two years? Is it like there hasn't been

900
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: any tight ends that people are getting excited about. For

901
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: a tight end to have this much hype, you know,

902
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: he's got to be pretty exciting. And the tight end

903
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: is one position where we've done this with making the

904
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: leap and other stuff where year one often does not

905
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: go well for tight ends. You're not gonna get big production.

906
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: But that may even worked for the Jets to some degree.

907
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: You don't have your quarterback yet, you don't you've you've

908
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: got exactly you've gutted everything. He has a little time

909
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: to grow. You have a time to get your next

910
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: quarterback in there, and then the production will grow with

911
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: the quarterback. But if everything goes well, this is the Jets.

912
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: We have no knowledge when they bring back gino Um,

913
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: he is the answer in New York after you by

914
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: the way, uh, Mark, why don't you talk about your

915
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 1: favorite team? Well, they're on the ropes with that title,

916
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: because there are reports now that well, no, I am

917
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: genuinely annoyed with with what's coming out and barring it

918
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 1: being some sort of uh, you know, strategy to confuse teams,

919
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: which I just simply don't believe, it is Adam Schefter

920
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 1: reporting yesterday that the Browns are you know, he's being

921
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: told there no lock to take Miles Garrett at number one,

922
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: that there's argument inside the building. An argument inside the

923
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: Browns front office or inside the complex in Cleveland has

924
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: been an ongoing three theme for two decades at this point.

925
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: So it's tiresome to anyone that is latched onto that

926
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,959
Speaker 1: club on any level. And listen. At the owner's meeting,

927
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson came out strongly in favor of taking Myles Garrett.

928
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: It just one of these home run picks, and if

929
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: you get it wrong, nobody can blame you for taking

930
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,479
Speaker 1: Myles Garrett. It is a head entails above the rest

931
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 1: type of athlete, and you don't mess around, you don't

932
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: get too smart, and you have to wonder where the

933
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 1: opposition is coming from. Is it the front office that's

934
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: thinking too hard about taking a quarterback? Well, I was

935
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: just talking with Connor or downstairs, who was a Browns

936
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: fan as well. Ring you passed up on Carson Wentz

937
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: last year, who was an ideal quarterback I thought for

938
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: the a f C North. So your answer this year

939
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: would be to come back around and skip on Miles

940
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: Garrett and say what you take Mitch Rabinsky, who is

941
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: a much lesser i'd say prospect than than Carson Wentz.

942
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 1: What are you doing at that point? You cannot outsmart yourself.

943
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: You have got to take this player and never look back.

944
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: And you know what, I don't even think you have

945
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: to go quarterback at number twelve. You take Garrett and

946
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: then you go get the best safety available, the best

947
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: other defensive players. Start to build a defense that Greg

948
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: Williams can build around. How do you tell that, Greg Williams,

949
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: You pull to Cleveland. We are passing on Miles Garrett

950
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: potentially for one of these quarterbacks. You know, I don't

951
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: believe in any of these quarterbacks personally to go number

952
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: one overall. Nobody does. DJ doesn't even have one of

953
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: his latest mock Nobody in the first round, a lot

954
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: of sex. It's just an unbelievable You have the ammunition,

955
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: you got all this ammunition. You can't keep all these

956
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: draft picks. Then you move up from number twelve to

957
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: number five or number four if you want to get

958
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback then ahead of in theory the Jets. That's

959
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: your one issue absurdity. I agree totally, Mark, and I

960
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: had that written down as well. Don't blow this Browns.

961
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: I know they they are feeling good about themselves right

962
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: now after the Ostweiler trade and some of the positive

963
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: buzz that brought about how they're different thinking than everyone else.

964
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: But geez, if this guy's as good as everyone says it,

965
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: say is, and if you do that, if you get

966
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: cute and you go analytics and you trade out of

967
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 1: that pick, and then and then Myles Gatt turns into

968
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: like a J. J. Watt level disruptor. How could you

969
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: be a Browns fan come in off the ledge. Browns fans,

970
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: this is lying season, smoke screen season, posturing season. I

971
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm believing every rumor about what the

972
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: Browns plan to do at number one when the obvious

973
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: move is probably the one that's gonna happen. Well, you're

974
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: I hope you're right, and you and and you're right

975
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: that it's not It's not time to overreact. That's how

976
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: I'm built with this team. But but it is the

977
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: first hint that we've heard of of discord between true

978
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: discord between the coach and the front office. And you

979
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: have to ask where that came from. Adam Schefter is

980
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: talking to someone, and it's not people outside the team.

981
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: I would imagine that's not where his sources. Now, that

982
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 1: would be the biggest concern because Mike Silver tweeted about that. Yeah,

983
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: he kind of tweeted around it, but he said he

984
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: didn't buy the presumption that Hugh wants a quarterback. And

985
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 1: obviously Mike Silver, uh, if you don't watch NFL network

986
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: is known to be very tight with Hugh Jackson. So

987
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: he's kind of putting it out there that that it's

988
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: not necessarily Hugh that wants the quarterback and they have

989
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: that number twelve pick. I mean to me, the ideal

990
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: situation is, if you really do like Drabinsky, you sit there.

991
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: You might not have to trade up. You just sit

992
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: there and take absolutely um and West is absolutely right

993
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: in his lying season. But Mark in Brown's face ends

994
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: and frankly, anyone else that follows the game closely knows

995
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: that the Browns know how to mess things up. So

996
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: when you hear see a report like this, you think yourself, yeah,

997
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: this could be a smoke screen, but this is the Browns,

998
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: and it makes you think. It made me think, are

999
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 1: they trying to get you know, San Francisco, who's at two?

1000
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: Have they you know, there's been some something talk about

1001
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: maybe they like Drabinsky and they're trying to get them

1002
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: to just move up one pick. Who knows this might

1003
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: be the most upset I've seen mark about the Browns

1004
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: since they refused to sign Chris Carter. So well, look,

1005
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: when you're on the when you're at the bottom of

1006
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: the league, if you're looking for anything, I'm trying to

1007
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: do anything to get to get the team of Spark,

1008
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: especially when you're best wide receiver can't stay on the

1009
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: field can't stay in the NFL. I mean Mark was

1010
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: on point with that. They ended up going one in

1011
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: fifteen after passing up and that's true. I know that

1012
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: was two seasons ago. So I will say the most

1013
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: anger I've seen Mark about the Browns was after they

1014
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: won their game. Well, and you know what, it's a

1015
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: send that. Hey, So you get the number one pick

1016
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: and you have a chance, like I said, maybe it's

1017
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: not a quarterback but a generational talent at number one.

1018
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: And now had they been at number two and someone

1019
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: else took Myles Garrett and you get that, there's other

1020
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: good players, but you get the number two. You're wondering

1021
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: what Miles Garre will become if you're at one and

1022
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: you pass on him. What is happening here? What is

1023
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: happening with this team? This isn't Eric Fisher and Luke

1024
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: jokel trying to decide to think number one. Apparently this

1025
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: dude is nasty either. There's let it have. There's two

1026
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: more weeks. Just figure it out. Get your headspace together, people,

1027
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: and get this thing done. I don't care if there's

1028
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: debate in the building, but give me a break. You threatened,

1029
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: belligerent activities upon this organization. What I threaten is total ambivalence. Uh,

1030
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,959
Speaker 1: we can't even read the quote that he that Mark

1031
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: uttered in the production meeting. Well, that's that's something I

1032
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: would say to anything. All the time I said I

1033
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: would At the second comment, I said I would drop

1034
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: kick someone in the face. So if it happens, you

1035
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: better want to be sitting near me. Uh, do not

1036
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: listen to Bill Barnes. He is a respected writer. I

1037
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: love reading his stuff, but don't do it. I like

1038
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: all these guys, get it together and make the right pick.

1039
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: I like Sashi, I like Hugh Jackson. Just get it done.

1040
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: It's not good when you know Bill Barnwell, who who

1041
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: are fans of? Had to you know, release a Twitter

1042
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: statement saying I do not work for the Brown I mean,

1043
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: after spec after some honestly outrageous silly speculation by a fellow.

1044
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: It's too much. It's too much for many of these

1045
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 1: fans to bear at this point. If this doesn't go well,

1046
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: you're going to start This is a very loyal fan base.

1047
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: There's two other good teams in that town. Attention is

1048
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: going to start to go elsewhere. Um, all right, we're good,

1049
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 1: all right, Hey, we said on the uh the beginning

1050
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 1: I believe of Wednesday show or Monday show. I should

1051
00:56:53,440 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: say that there was some controversy uh during Westlemania three,

1052
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: and it revolved around corn hole. And I didn't want

1053
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: to bring up the person by name because it was

1054
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 1: so hot, it was so controversial. Uh. And frankly, Uh,

1055
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: you know, some people would call it deplorable what happened

1056
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: on the boards. But then this individual West approached you

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00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: privately in the office today and what happened without naming names.

1058
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: Yet he approached me and said that if we wanted

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00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: to have him on the podcast to discuss the incident

1060
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: heard round the competitive sports world, the competitive parlor games world,

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00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: he would be happy to come in and speak about

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00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: it with us. The corn toss heard round the world. Uh.

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00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: And and now here he is. He's behind the glass.

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00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: He put on the headset. He took SIDS headset, a

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00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: headset he's familiar with because he is the producer of

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00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: the UH Fantasy Live podcast here at NFL dot com.

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00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: He has Alex Gelhar Alex, welcome to the Around the

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00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: NFL podcast. Thank you for for having the heroes it is.

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00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: It is good to be here. But I believe you

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00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: changed the name of the play in question from Saturday.

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00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: What was what was it on? Was it not? The shot? Not?

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00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: All right? So let me give a little background on

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00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: the throw. So it was corn It was West and

1074
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: I facing off against Alex Gelhar and John Gonzalez. Who

1075
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: is Greg? I don't Who is that guy? I don't

1076
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: Mark the husband of Connie Fox and a talented writer

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00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: in his own right and all that anyway, So West

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00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: and I had jumped out to uh an eighteen six

1079
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: lead game to twenty one. But in cornhole, if you

1080
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: know the game, it's not over till it's over. And

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00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: Alex was making his final throw of the round. I

1082
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: believe there were three Chris Westling bags circling the hole,

1083
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: and there was a Alex Gelhar bag that was kind

1084
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: of on the lip of the hole. And this is West. No,

1085
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: the taf in half in West will throw it to you.

1086
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: In terms of strategy here, um, what was the right

1087
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: play for Alex facing a twelve point need to mention

1088
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: I had two in the hole already to this is

1089
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: what really got me hot and bothered. First of all,

1090
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: one of my primary cornhole philosophies is you never worry

1091
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: about the other guys back. You're good enough that you

1092
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: can hit your own bag in And Alex's bag was

1093
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: right on the lip right and the right hander's alley,

1094
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: so where he if he hits it in the right angle,

1095
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: he can get four in the hole, which we call

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00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: a Jumanji, which puts you in that day's hall of

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00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: fame for Cornwall. You you don't see a Jumanji every

1098
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: day in Cornwall, all four bags in the hole. Not

1099
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: only do you that day hall of fame to often,

1100
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: not only do what shed me on that throw, you

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00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: get a Jumanji and put you in your teammate right

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00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: back in the game. To me, it was the only

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00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: throw you okay, And just to set it up one

1104
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: more time, eighteen six, Let's assume I don't remember, but

1105
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: assume West had one in the hole and three on

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00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: the board. If gelhard Jumaji is there, four times three

1107
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: is twelve points for eight point differential. All of a

1108
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: sudden would it would have been a six point differential.

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01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: Three on the board and one in right. So if I,

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01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: if I hit it perfectly, we gained six. Now you're

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01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: eighteen to twelve twelve, right, So what happens. Gelhar gal

1112
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: Hard tosses the bag like ten ft away from the board,

1113
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: away to the board and then shakes his head because

1114
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: it was not going to risk it. Now, I have

1115
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: to say, in the moment the world exploded. At that moment,

1116
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: I defended the move because Gonzo and I we played

1117
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: you guys in a tough game one and we were

1118
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: in this one. Gonza was starting to get us throw

1119
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: I had just hit it. I didn't want to risk

1120
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: it because well West said, had I hit it perfectly,

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01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: could have Jumanji would have been great. But you guys

1122
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: were also sitting at eighteen. If I hit it improperly,

1123
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: we lost. However, No, no, that was the details matter.

1124
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: None of these details matter. I had kind of life

1125
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: do you want to live? Do you want to live

1126
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: a life where you just throw the bag off to

1127
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: the side. Oh, I'll see you later. I'll just lose

1128
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: by a little. What kind of life is that? It's

1129
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: not a good one, let me tell you. In the

1130
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: days since Westlemania, because what's going on? Then, well, no,

1131
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: as as I've as I've thought about it, we Dan

1132
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: Dan aptly described it as Mike McCarthy in Seattle, so

1133
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: I've had to relive that horrific game as a Green

1134
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: may fan every day. It's also akin to Andy Reid

1135
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: taking a fourth quarter time out with roughly five or

1136
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: six minutes left in the game that he may or

1137
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: may not lead. Yet another comparison, Donovan McNabb throwing up

1138
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: on the field. So what it was is I was realizing,

1139
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, and it goes against all of my philosophies.

1140
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: I was on the road against in the lead opponent,

1141
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: one who was better than me. I should have taken

1142
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: the chance. I should have gone for the win. But

1143
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, when you're when you're in the moment, when

1144
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: you're when you're coaching on the field, it's a little

1145
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: different than when you're watching the game from the comforts

1146
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: of the NFL newsroom. So my heart goes out to

1147
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: those coaches in those times. But I should have made

1148
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: the throw. Are aren't Are you a little concerned? And

1149
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: it sounds like this is appropriately, you know, caused him

1150
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: self reflection, are you at are you? Are you at

1151
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: all concerned? Earned uh that this was a law reveal magnificent? No, No, No,

1152
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it was. I think I

1153
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: think not a lot of self reflection. Now there was,

1154
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: there was a lot, but as I said it, it

1155
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: was the moment I had hit the law reveal magnificence there.

1156
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: It is much more intense board than what we have. Well,

1157
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: I would just like to let the record show that this,

1158
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: this was never Monday morning quarterback. We were There was

1159
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: outrage on the spot. I believe I threw my hat

1160
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: down and started jumping on it up. Oh yeah, it was.

1161
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: Greg was bothered anybody. It was widespread, and it makes

1162
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: you feel better. I I don't even remember when this happened,

1163
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: and I had a delightful time. I mean, true to

1164
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: form with all those coaches that we've compared it to

1165
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: as well Gons when I did mount somewhat of a comeback,

1166
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: but we ultimately lost. You know you did, and that

1167
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: almost makes it a little more painful in a way

1168
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: because had you maybe been aggressive and then got hot,

1169
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: you could have stolen the game. But instead, when you

1170
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: got hot, you were still down three or four points

1171
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: close up. But I'll tell you what you were and

1172
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: that made it more fun. Frankly, you were adamant that

1173
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 1: you would had been strategizing properly when you decided to

1174
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:17,479
Speaker 1: throw the whips risky. In my defense too, I wasn't

1175
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: risky that while no, no, no, while it wasn't much

1176
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: more measured WrestleMania as you said, uh, Matt Harmon, and

1177
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: I had come from l a beer fest beforehand downtown,

1178
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: so also you were. I believe you were out throwing

1179
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: me for most of the day. I had been at

1180
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: least in the first game. I think you overtook me

1181
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: in the second game. So my point is is that

1182
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: you have now come around and you understand the foibles,

1183
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: and I believe that you are a very good player, Alex.

1184
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,919
Speaker 1: I would kid you appreciate that. I would. I would

1185
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: put you a little bit behind myself. Uh, I would

1186
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: put myself behind you as well, And but that is

1187
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: not a shot. I think you're well ahead of anyone else.

1188
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: I think you are firmly in the top three now,

1189
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: and what we need is a good, a true fourth. Um.

1190
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: I have to say, I wanted to take this chance

1191
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: to apologize to Gonzo. Hopefully he Here's this part of

1192
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: the podcast when Colleen's getting ready in the morning, was

1193
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: like Cam Newton, he was gonz Gonzo had some had

1194
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: some good tosses in that day. You know, we at

1195
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: least kept those games competitive with you guys apologize. He

1196
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: was pretty much like the Packers defense watching this guy.

1197
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: Um Gonzo wakes up every morning. He told me this

1198
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: at about eleven thirty am, and then a few hours

1199
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: later takes a nap. He is doing fine. He could

1200
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: care less about any of these parlor game intrigues. Dogs

1201
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: not kids. It's a it's a nice life that Gonzo

1202
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: was carved out for himself in southern California. All right, Alex,

1203
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: that was good. I was good to talk. I felt

1204
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: the listeners knowing how much they care about Westlemania. I mean,

1205
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: we had somebody show up one year to Westlemania. I

1206
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: felt they should know the truth. And being the one

1207
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: on the opposite side of that, I thought I should

1208
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: come in and explain myself and how I've been. You know,

1209
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: I've been like Mike McCarthy sipping off he at lambeau

1210
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: Field every day after wondering if I wondering if I

1211
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: screwed it up. A stand up guy, Alex gelhar uh.

1212
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: And we look forward to the next time we can

1213
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: get on the boards and see what's the next chapter

1214
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: and a budding rivalry potentially. I'm excited. All right, that's it.

1215
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: That's it for today's show. We'll be back on Thursday

1216
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: with a video show. Make sure you check it out

1217
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: streaming nine pm Eastern, six pm Pacific. We will also

1218
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: have we have another guest coming in on Thursday. We're

1219
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of fun, so check out the

1220
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: video show and the audio show will land as well.

1221
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: Uh and uh, that's it. We gotta go. We gotta

1222
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: do a network kit, so sounds say, by streaming at

1223
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: nine pm Eastern, So much responsibility on the listener. Dan

1224
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: Hands is signing off for The Quiet Store, The Mailman,

1225
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: The Boss, New Money, and gel Hard Behind the Glass

1226
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: till Thursday.