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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What's up, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire, Thursday, November twelve. Almost there too. Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: It's on the horizon. I can see it. I can

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Speaker 1: taste the food on my Thanksgiving table. But uh, in

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Speaker 1: a bit of a shocker. I know it's November, it's

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Speaker 1: college football season, NFL, NBA Draft on the horizon. Next week.

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Speaker 1: We had big, big news Wednesday night. Uh, late afternoon,

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Speaker 1: early evening. The news came down Russell Westbrook once out

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Speaker 1: of Houston. I mean, you know, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I laughed the first text I got about this, or

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Speaker 1: um if I just like kind of shook my head

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Speaker 1: and in mockery of Russell Westbrook. Now, listen, I've had

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Speaker 1: a long, checkered history with Russell Westbrook. One of the

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Speaker 1: first things that I said when I got to f

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Speaker 1: S one that went viral. I was really fortunate I

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Speaker 1: got there in June of and July was when Kevin

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Speaker 1: Durant bolted and went to the Warriors. And my big

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Speaker 1: takeaway was, listen, Russell Westbrook is the new Dwight Howard. Okay,

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Speaker 1: nobody wants to play with this guy. Okay, Sergeon Bacca

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Speaker 1: and him had beef. See you later, Kevin Durant. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if Russ's such a star, why is Durant Bailey? Why

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Speaker 1: would Durant leave? And it kind of it was a

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Speaker 1: big deal at the time, and Enis Canter, who was

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Speaker 1: on okay see like, went after me on social media

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Speaker 1: and it became like a little a little tiff, if

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Speaker 1: you will, and I was like, oh, helly, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the big time. And I've you know, listen, I'm not

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Speaker 1: a Russell Westbrook basher. I will tell this small story.

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Speaker 1: After moving out here to l A. You know, you talked,

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Speaker 1: you get your kids some basketball coaches to work out

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Speaker 1: with drills and stuff, and I play pick up game

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Speaker 1: with pickup game at the gym with this guy. He's awesome,

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Speaker 1: and of course I want to be friends with the

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Speaker 1: good guys who are good athletes and who are cool.

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Speaker 1: And it turns out this guy was Russell Westbrook's backup

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Speaker 1: point guard in high school and obviously I'm like watching

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Speaker 1: his handle and everything. This guy is amazing. So he's

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Speaker 1: teaching my kids and we became friends, and um, I

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Speaker 1: was like, so tell me about Russ. He's like, man,

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Speaker 1: you're killing Russ all the time, and he had seen

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Speaker 1: my social media, so I'm like, just as an observer,

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Speaker 1: he's a pound the ball fifty million times ball Hogg.

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Speaker 1: It can't shoot threes. And if Kevin Durant doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to play with him, why should anybody? And this guy says,

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Speaker 1: you know, listen, Russ is one of the hardest workers.

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Speaker 1: His story is a good one, undersized throughout high school grows.

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Speaker 1: I think it's like six inches junior senior year, something

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Speaker 1: crazy and just starts yammut on. Everybody couldn't get an

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Speaker 1: offer from U C. L A until his senior year.

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Speaker 1: When he gets big, they get in the offer and

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Speaker 1: like the rest is history. Um. That being said, I

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Speaker 1: don't want Russell Westbrook on my team if I'm the

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Speaker 1: New York Knicks, and that was the first team that

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Speaker 1: came up, because the Knicks are desperate. Okay they are.

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Speaker 1: They've been so irrelevant in the last twenty years, I

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Speaker 1: mean totally nothing. Jeremy Lynn was a bigger deal with

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Speaker 1: my Knicks than Carmelo Anthony was. And I hate to

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Speaker 1: say it, but Russell Westbrook would be an unmitigated disaster.

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Speaker 1: If I'm R. J. Barrett and Russell Westbrook comes to town.

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Speaker 1: The writing is on the wall. It's similar to when

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Speaker 1: D'Angelo Russell was with the Lakers and a Lonzo Ball

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Speaker 1: is like the number two pick and the Lakers got

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Speaker 1: to move on from Russell and you're like, oh, well

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Speaker 1: they're getting the number two pick. I'm out of here

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Speaker 1: if I'm r J. Barrett, what am I sticking around for.

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Speaker 1: I know you're on the rookie contract, but you're not

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Speaker 1: getting the ball. You're not gonna improve, You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: have the ball in your hands because Russ is gonna

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Speaker 1: be dominating the ball. The Nick should not want to

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Speaker 1: get in the Russell Westbrook business. That would be a

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Speaker 1: terrible move. Chris Paul, as we talked about a little

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Speaker 1: bit yesterday, makes much more sense. He's a point guard.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna make other people better. You don't improve around

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Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook. You simply don't get the basket ball. And

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Speaker 1: I want to quickly go back to what the hell

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Speaker 1: happened in Houston that got Russell Westbrook so heated, And

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Speaker 1: apparently James Harden is like, do I want to play

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Speaker 1: And the first thing when I asked about what's cool,

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Speaker 1: why does everyone went out of Houston? Apparently the story

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Speaker 1: I got was it really goes back to the owner.

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Speaker 1: Uh Tilman, for Tata, for Tito, however you pronounce it. Um.

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Speaker 1: This guy was a immense billionaire as recently as two

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Speaker 1: years ago. Okay, he was the most He was the

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Speaker 1: and his business has been decimated. This is a guy

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Speaker 1: an owner of the Golden Nugget casino in Vegas and

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Speaker 1: he was not allowed to be the owner of the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans, Which shows you how far gambling has come

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Speaker 1: in the last like twelve years. And for Tita has

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Speaker 1: all this money tied up in gambling. You know the

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Speaker 1: Golden Nugget in Vegas restaurants, I'm sure you've eaten at

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Speaker 1: the chart House. I know that was where we had

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Speaker 1: our prom dinner back in the day. When I was

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Speaker 1: in high school, the Rainforest Cafe. Who hasn't eaten at

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Speaker 1: the Rainforest Cafe, Morton Steakhouse, all restaurants, his portfolios, restaurants

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Speaker 1: and gambling, and COVID has decimated him. And take a

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Speaker 1: close look, guys at what the Rockets have done post Bubble.

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Speaker 1: Mike D'Antoni, you're not gonna make me an offer for

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Speaker 1: a contract piece. I'm gonna give the news to my

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Speaker 1: agent that I'm leaving, and we're gonna release it while

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Speaker 1: I'm on the plane back from Houston to I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: from the bubble to Houston. That's what Mike D'Antoni it.

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Speaker 1: The owner didn't I don't even think he lobold and

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Speaker 1: he never made an offer to Mike D'Antoni. What are

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Speaker 1: the more respected coaches in the league. A guy who

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Speaker 1: knows offense. I know he's ever won a title, but

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Speaker 1: he knows offense. Go look at what he did with

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Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns. Okay, D'Antoni knows basketball. And then Darryl

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Speaker 1: Morey looks around and says, oh, jeez, I gotta hire

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Speaker 1: And at least the story I've got for for Tita.

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Speaker 1: It's like, hey, we got to do it on the cheap,

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Speaker 1: And Darryl Morey is looking around on the cheap. I

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Speaker 1: mean if you hear on the cheap from a billionaire

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Speaker 1: and you see his portfolio is going down, and then

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Speaker 1: you look at your cap and you have Eric, Gordon,

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Speaker 1: Harden and Westbrook making million dollars. Those three guys can't

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Speaker 1: get out of the first round of the bubble this year?

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Speaker 1: What do you? I mean, like, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Sorry? Second round? Second round?

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Speaker 1: They got to the second round of the playoffs. They

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Speaker 1: get to the second round. Three guys. Darryl Morri looks around, says, yo,

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Speaker 1: I'm out. Did you guys see who Fretita hired as

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Speaker 1: the new head coach and the new GM. Okay, a

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Speaker 1: billionaire who says he's gonna go into the tax We

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Speaker 1: all show me, don't tell me. Okay. His new GM

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Speaker 1: is a guy named Raphael Stone. I'm sure you guys

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Speaker 1: have no idea who he is. I had no idea

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Speaker 1: who he was until I looked into him. Stanford Law

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Speaker 1: School obviously a smart guy. He was a lawyer before

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Speaker 1: he was hired as the Rockets general counsel. He was

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Speaker 1: like them. He was on the Rockets law law team

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Speaker 1: for the last fourteen years handling legal issues, then last

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Speaker 1: year executive VP of basketball operations. What a lawyer, all

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Speaker 1: player transactions and identifying talent. That to me is a

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Speaker 1: red flag. That's who your new GM is. What does

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Speaker 1: he know about NBA talent? And then your new coach

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Speaker 1: and I can't kill the guy Stephen Silas. His dad,

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Speaker 1: Paul Silas was was a coach. But you know, listen,

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Speaker 1: Steven Silas was an NBA assistant for twenty years. Now

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Speaker 1: he gets his job as a head coach. Uh do

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Speaker 1: you think they got him on the cheap? I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go ahead and guess yes. So now Harden and Westbrook

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Speaker 1: to succeed here. I don't know this coach, This GM

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Speaker 1: And now they both apparently want out. Westbrook beat hardened

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Speaker 1: is probably gonna look to not pay the tax. Trade

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Speaker 1: Harden for whatever the hell you can get. Trade Russ

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Speaker 1: for whatever you can get, and let's operation tank in Houston. Now,

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Speaker 1: Rob g you are a big Russell Westbrook guy. I

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Speaker 1: know you. You want a hashtag future Laker on Russ

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Speaker 1: um If the Lakers can get him on the cheap,

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Speaker 1: you want him. Stop it. No, you just can't do it.

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Speaker 1: His contract is too big. You'd have to negotiate a buyout,

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Speaker 1: which he's not gonna do and he shouldn't do. So

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Speaker 1: he's thirty six and broken down and he's chasing a ring.

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Speaker 1: That'd be great. But I feel like you're a little

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Speaker 1: too hard. I know this is your brand. You don't

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Speaker 1: like Russell Westbrook. You've been haiding on, haiding on him

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Speaker 1: for like four and a half years now. To me,

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Speaker 1: this whole thing screams James Harden, not Russell Westbrook. Because

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Speaker 1: I read the athletic piece that Sam Amick did after

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Speaker 1: the Seam's News broke and the big theme that came

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Speaker 1: out of that article was a lack of accountability within

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Speaker 1: the Rockets organization. And it referenced the specific disagreements between

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Speaker 1: accountable because Mike D'Antoni wasn't doing it, no one else

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Speaker 1: had the cachet to really do it. And just going

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Speaker 1: uh Woe was put out a long column about how

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Speaker 1: both Westbrook and Hardy before we knew Westbrook had requested

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Speaker 1: a trade, um, we're unhappy or uncertain about the future

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Speaker 1: of the team. And in that article, and I think

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Speaker 1: long enough, the way article is written, you know who

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Speaker 1: And in that article it referenced by Woes. You know

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Speaker 1: James Harden was involved with the hiring Steven Silas. He

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Speaker 1: had a He had a saying that James Harden was

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Speaker 1: being consulted on possible the team acquisitions this offseason. James

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Speaker 1: Harden helped recruit Dwight Howard to the Rockets, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you remember, but they tried to get

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Speaker 1: Harden was the one who wanted Chris Paul traded to

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Speaker 1: get Russell Westbrook. And now you have Russell Westbrook who

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Speaker 1: that you don't like Russell Westbrook, and you have Valerie's

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Speaker 1: were not liking him. But at what point do we

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Speaker 1: put this on the one common denominator in all of this,

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Speaker 1: these these issues that Houston has had over the last

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Speaker 1: better cases you've built, Rob G. But listen, as you

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Speaker 1: can tell Rob G and I we do text about ideas,

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Speaker 1: going to be playing UM and it's affecting all of

422
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Speaker 1: college football. What's interesting to me now, it's not so

423
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: much of how many tests or how many players are

424
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: are getting positive. It's the contact tracing that's really starting

425
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: to hurt the teams. And you know, for instance, there

426
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: were teams in the SEC to where let's say that

427
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: if a player had had got it in July, right,

428
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: got it, they beat it in a couple of days, asymptomatic,

429
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 1: no problems. Well, they didn't have to test for ninety days, right.

430
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: And not only do they not have to test for

431
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: ninety days, they were not part of the contact tracing pool,

432
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: which means that hey, listen, even if your roommate ends

433
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 1: up getting it, you're fine because for ninety days you

434
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: were clear, you didn't even have to be part of

435
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: the protocol. So now what we're seeing is not only

436
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: an explosion of cases throughout college football and across the

437
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 1: country right now, but you're also seeing guys that may

438
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 1: have got it back in June, July, August, that ninety

439
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: day window that they were quote unquote exempt, all of

440
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: a sudden they're no longer exempt. So if you gotta

441
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 1: walk on player who who ended up getting it, but

442
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 1: he he traveled with the team, and all of a sudden,

443
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: these guys are no longer that ninety days safe window, Well,

444
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: now there you go. There there's an issue, and that's

445
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: why we're seeing so the explosion of so many cases

446
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: aro out college football. How how close are we to

447
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: having to shut down the season because it's not like

448
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: the weather is going to get better in a large,

449
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: large porcess in these countries, sorry, in the cities in

450
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: the SEC and then Peter, then you've got Thanksgiving break

451
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: where a lot of people are probably gonna go home

452
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: to their family, um and then be around you know

453
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,719
Speaker 1: who knows extended family older about Halloween. I mean, we're

454
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: we're about two weeks removed from Halloween and think about that.

455
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: That's where a lot of players and and listen, let's

456
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 1: be honest. If if you and I were a part

457
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: of Ohio State or Alabama squad and everything is great, Hey,

458
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: we're rolling, man, we're undefeated. This is my chance to

459
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: get to the NFL. I'm not letting another five star

460
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: take my spot. I am not going to anything. But

461
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: if you're James Franklin in your your Penn State squad

462
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: and you're a backup, you know, quarterback that may not

463
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: play in your oh and three, or you're some player

464
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: a Mississippi State in the season is just bacle and

465
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: you're like, I don't know. I mean, Hallyween is kind

466
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: of fun. I'm gonna go out and party a little

467
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: bit and then sure enough, then somehow they catch it.

468
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you're seeing just a massive fatigue.

469
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 1: And it's not just in college football, it's across the country.

470
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: And I think I think they're gonna have to to

471
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: really take a look at if you're looking at the

472
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: NC double A doing some type of bubble, can you

473
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: do that in college football? And what that looks like?

474
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: And of course, you know, nobody really wanted to do it.

475
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: Until they saw how successful it was with Adam Silver, Right, Like,

476
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: the NBA just crushed it, okay, but they also crushed

477
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: it at a heavy cost. The question is will n

478
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: C double A do it? And the big difference is, Hey,

479
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: NBA players can do it because they receive a pretty

480
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: damn hefty salary. What's the you know, are you gonna

481
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: do that for college football players who aren't getting those rights? Um,

482
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: it would have been really intriguing had all of this

483
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: happened next year. And the only reason why I say

484
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: that is becauld name, image and likeness is coming right

485
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: the players now, Um, they don't really have a whole

486
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: lot of leverage in this whole situation. What would have

487
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: happened had this happened next year where the players are like, no, man,

488
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm I've got I've got quote unquote my deals as

489
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: well that I need to stay on the team and

490
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: I need to be a part of it. How that

491
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: would have factored into it? May it may not have,

492
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: but it's going to add an interesting wrinkle going forward. Yeah,

493
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a little disturbing that the NFL

494
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: announced this week that hey, we're gonna come up with

495
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: a contingency plan of sixteen playoff teams just in case

496
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: we aren't able to finish the regular season. I started

497
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: thinking instantly about college football, like, okay, guys, what's the

498
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: backup plan? And you know, I'm just curious. What has

499
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: been the pushback against an expansion from four to eight

500
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: this year? Um? I mean so here, I mean, honestly,

501
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: as a matter of all right, if you if we

502
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: can't even get to the end of the season, we're

503
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: only worried about four, how the hell are we gonna

504
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: worry about eight or sixteen teams? Right? Like? You know?

505
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: And then again, if you're talking about all right, so

506
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: if you're saying, all right, well maybe we can build

507
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: some type of bubble situation for these four teams, will

508
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: exponentially it grows if you're gonna go to eight or

509
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: to sixteen, And are you willing to do that? I mean,

510
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: it's different when you're only doing it for you know,

511
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: eleven twelve basketball players on a team. You're talking about

512
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: creating a bowl situation for what a hundred twenty some

513
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: odd football players. I mean, the numbers just don't add up,

514
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: just you know. I Mean, now, the thing is is,

515
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: would you be willing to just say we're going to

516
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: scrap everything and say let's just keep it indefinite, right,

517
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: let's move it back a little bit more time. I'm

518
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: not sure if they're willing to do that, because the

519
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: NFL Draft has already said we ain't moving. The NFL

520
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: has stuck their flag in the ground and said nope,

521
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: we're not doing it. And so once that was the

522
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: decision was made. You couldn't have this real hybrid fall

523
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: season that bleeds into spring football and declare a champion

524
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: in some time of mid February or whatnot. It's also

525
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: difficult to do that and then say we're gonna start

526
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: again in August, you know, like it just don't know. Yeah,

527
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: it's just not safe. Um. College football is just in

528
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: a real tough spot. Um, so let me go to

529
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: golf real quick, Peter, you did play college golf. I'm

530
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: just curious how good were you? And throw all the

531
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: audience like, first of all, we like the number one

532
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: seed on your high school team, you're the best player,

533
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: and then you get the scholarship or I was. I

534
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: was a good player. I played for Churchill High School

535
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: in San Antonio, Texas. We were five a which is

536
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: the biggest classification in in the state of Texas, which

537
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: had some incredible golfers, right, Um, and so I was good.

538
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: I was probably the number two or three guy on

539
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: our high school team. But every single person on our

540
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: high school team got Division one scholarships to you know,

541
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: Texas or other places. So we were we were good. Um.

542
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: And so ultimately I went to UH. I wanted to

543
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: play for LS Shoe because I'm die hard L s

544
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: U fan. As you know, I'm from Baton Rouge. Everybody

545
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: in my family went to bat Or went to L.

546
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: S Shoe And I remember the golf coach worked UM

547
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: wrote back to me one time and he's like, we

548
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: appreciate your interests, Um. We have plenty of walk on positions.

549
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: And my parents are like, we're not gonna do a

550
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: walk on situation, Like you're gonna get a scholarship get

551
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: money elsewhere. No, So I went to I played golf

552
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: at University of Texas, San Antonio for two years to

553
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: fighting roadrunners, um, and then basically drank and party myself

554
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: off the team. And yeah, So I grew up like

555
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,719
Speaker 1: really like in a like structured like you can't even

556
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: watch MTV, like like over to parents like other friends

557
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: house because you're like real sex seventeen is on. I'm like,

558
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 1: what did I watch this? Right? Like? And so when

559
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: I went to college, I was living in a four

560
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: bedroom apartment all by myself and it was just yourself.

561
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: Uh it just roommates had moved out, one transferred, one

562
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: went to go move the girlfriend. So there I am

563
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: in college is eight year old kid who's never really

564
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: been exposed to the world. I'm like, I'm like like

565
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: Johnny Menzel times three my freshman year and just had

566
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: to you know, I wouldn't do anything different, and at

567
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: the time of my life. But so long story short,

568
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: had too much fun there. Transferred to St. Mary's University

569
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: in San Antonio, private university. Played a couple of years

570
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: a golf one a tournament there I was. I was good.

571
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: I shot like sixty six seventy one the Corpus Christy

572
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 1: Men's Championship one year. But then I played golf against

573
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: guys like Jimmy Walker, who is incredible on tour, and

574
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: Charles Hall the third and all these guys that are

575
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: coming up now, and it was obvious whenever you would

576
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: see them play, It's like, I mean, come on that

577
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: that those guys are so much better than than than us.

578
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: You think you had a shot at at going bro.

579
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: My parents thought I did, and I knew I was like,

580
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: no way in hell. Like these guys are just on

581
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: such a such a different level, Like like it's it's

582
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: the same thing. Like if you go to the y

583
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden there's a guy the y

584
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: that's just like he plays pick up ball and he's

585
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: just a baller right and just kills it. You're like, dude,

586
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: you should give it a run, but you could try

587
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: out and you realize that if he went out to

588
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: and actually tried out for a team. I was kind

589
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: of like we were. How master P tried to play

590
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: NBA basketball, That basically was would have been the equivalent

591
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: of my golf career. And that's the first time you

592
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: over here master P and Peter Burns ever used in

593
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: the same sense. Master P real sex. We are off

594
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: to a great star. I love that straight fire. So

595
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: let's go. Let let me let me back up a

596
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: little bit. So were your parents golfers? How did you

597
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: get into because like where I am now out here

598
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, a lot of parents are pushing their

599
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: kids into golf. And I brought my kids to the

600
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: range and they were like, yeah, that this is this

601
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: is tough. I don't know dead and they don't want

602
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: to go back. They have other shoot hoops or soccer.

603
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: Well it's tough. It's tough because I think that along

604
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: with baseball is an attention span thing, right, Like you know,

605
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm forty one now, so growing up, I mean you,

606
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: this is kind of what you did. This was the

607
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: American pastime of baseball or or you go play golf. Now,

608
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: my dad was a golfer um to a certain extent,

609
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: but he did it more to get me out because

610
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: he wanted to play golf. So he's like, all right,

611
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: I'll take Peter out there and hit balls, and then

612
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: I I fell in love with it. Um. But I

613
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: think it's tough for a lot of younger kids now

614
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: because they're so used to you know, boom boom boom,

615
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: and we're so a d D as a as a

616
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: society that it's hard to have your kid go play

617
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 1: baseball and he doesn't get a ball hit to him

618
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: for three innings and he doesn't bat until two innings,

619
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: so forty five minutes he's just kind of drifting off.

620
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing with with golf to a

621
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: certain extent, it takes a dedication and um, you know,

622
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: I want my kids to play to play it, of course,

623
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: but um, it's you know, it's it's a great game.

624
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm interested in the Masters this weekend

625
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: because you know, Tiger was that big part of the

626
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: game that grew the game, right, Like he was so

627
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: much into um, you know, expanding it to so many

628
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: different lifestyles and people all of a sudden, the casual

629
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: fan viewed it. And I think COVID in a weird way,

630
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: has kind of created a new wave of golfers because

631
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people there wasn't anything to do, so

632
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, well let's go try golf. And

633
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, this is why I think it's important that

634
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Speaker 1: you do have the Masters and getting people, you know,

635
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: involved in it this year. It's weird you bring up Tigers,

636
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: so we're around the same age, and I'm I'm curious.

637
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: Were you one of these guys who saw a lot

638
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: of Tiger and was just like, I gotta play golf.

639
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: Uh No, because I was already in So I was

640
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: I was in I mean basically, my dad told me

641
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: at high school. He's like, all right, here's you could

642
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: play college baseball, but you're probably not gonna go anywhere good,

643
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: or you could be good at golf. You're gonna have

644
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: to choose one of the two, right, And I was like, well,

645
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: I think I could be really good at golf. I'll

646
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: never be you know, I'll never bat three seventy five

647
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: playing SEC baseball. So I chose golf. But so I

648
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: was already in. But I know so many casual golfers

649
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: that got into it. And that's why I think the

650
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: wave of like I said, Tiger and Covid are gonna

651
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: be interesting because so many people just got bored and

652
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: brought their kids out, like you just said. And if

653
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: they're they're into the game. So um. And even the

654
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: stars now, like I love Justin Thomas, he's a great guy.

655
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: Even Ricky Fowler, Rory mcelroyd. The difference is now I

656
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: feel like all of the guys on tour that are

657
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: the stars, Jason, they they they they're boys with each other. Right.

658
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of like to a certain extent, the n

659
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: b A and like it always feels like there's not

660
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: that like Bird, right Jordan's or you know Bird or

661
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: Magic Hatred, where you're like, oh my gosh, this is

662
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: guys just hating each other that it almost feels friendly.

663
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: And I think that's why Bryson intrigued so many people now,

664
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: is Bryson is just kind of not a bad boy

665
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: of golf because that's such a cliche term. But he

666
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: adds a different element that people don't like to where

667
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: we always need villains and sports, and Bryson has become

668
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, DCMO has become that villain in the game

669
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: of golf right now. Yeah, I don't get. I got

670
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: a plead ignorance here. I don't totally get why people

671
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: don't like him. Is it because he got jacked and

672
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: he's got a cool nickname which I said on the

673
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: podcast and Rob g could not stop cracking up Disham

674
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: swoll Right, So he's he's jacked, he's ripping everything, And

675
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: why do people not like that? I haven't read any

676
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: of the stuff I've seen the chatter on social media,

677
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: but why do people not like the guy? Yeah? I

678
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: think it's just one I think tour players and there's

679
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: a certain envy of it, like the fact that he's

680
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: hitting the ball four hundred yards. There's an envy level

681
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: that he hits it that far and hits it that

682
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: straight right, It's it's it's incredible what he's doing. I

683
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: think he's had some run ins with the media to

684
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: where he's he's kind of made it seem like, hey, listen,

685
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of the end all be all, and

686
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: I need you, I don't need you kind of I

687
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: don't need you in the background taking pictures of of

688
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: me or whatnot. Um So, I think that's a little

689
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: bit a part of it. And I think honestly, golf

690
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: was yearning for somebody to kind of dislike, right. I mean,

691
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: like I said, all the guys right now are on

692
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: tour and they all go hang out at Baker's Bay

693
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: and there on Instagram together, and it's like the tour

694
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: was waiting for that vacuum to be filled. And I

695
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: think Bryson's just a quirky enough guy to where he's like, yeah, okay,

696
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I mean, even Dustin Johnson was kind

697
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: of disliked, but I think people looked at it's like, well,

698
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: what was in Paulina. Yeah, I think it was just

699
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: his his behavior and Paulina, but that that that kind

700
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: of has has subsided and Kepco could have been that guy.

701
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: I but Brooks kind of as a guy that doesn't

702
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: seem like he's that interested in golf anyway. He just

703
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: happened to be extremely good. And his wife is kind

704
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: of Instagram famous as well. Right, Yeah, I think that

705
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: whole that whole little crew there between Paulina and then

706
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: uh and then I think it's Dustin Johnson and his brother,

707
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: and I mean that that whole little posit right there

708
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: that they've got a couple of followers. So let's back up.

709
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: Why do you think Tiger didn't just try to say,

710
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna embrace it and be the

711
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: bad boy after the strippers and the porn stars and

712
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: the drugs and all that. He could have easily gone

713
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: that route, And I still think people would have liked him.

714
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, I think like Tiger to me.

715
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: And there's a great book, Jason, if you get it,

716
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: if you get a chance, even if you're not a

717
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: huge golf fan, the book that armand Catalan wrote about

718
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: Tiger is one of the most incredible reads. And I

719
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: even if you aren't a golfer. I highly recommended because

720
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: it really talks about how Tiger was in such a

721
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: different stratosphere that his mind clicking about all right, now

722
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: I should pivot and be the bad guy or this

723
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: like that. I don't think that ever entered his mind.

724
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: Like you know, if if you're someone trying to rebrand yourself,

725
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: then I think you're in that stratosphere going all right, well,

726
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: let me maybe I can pivot to being a bad

727
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: guy or doing this to get more headlines. Tiger was

728
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: already so far above in that stratosphere where he never

729
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: even thought about it. He just acted that way and

730
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: nobody ever told him no. I mean, it's no different

731
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: than like Brittany going crazy when she shaved her head,

732
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: because because you dominate the sport, no one's gonna tell

733
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, you get away with it, and then at

734
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: some point there's a certain high of what you can

735
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: get away with um that you're not supposed to do,

736
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: and that ultimately led to his fault. And I think

737
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: Tiger's pivot to being an a pretty accessible, open, honest

738
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: dad and guy that kind of seems to genuinely enjoy

739
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: it has really been refreshing to watch him and kind

740
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: of this Tiger, I don't even call it to point oh,

741
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: I think it's three point oh now, um, and I don't.

742
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be in contention any longer. But

743
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be the fact that he, you know,

744
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: one at Augusta and even one again after everything he's

745
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: been through. Like my Tiger bucket list is is checked off.

746
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: I don't need anything else from Tiger other than maybe

747
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: he'd making like a run like Nicholas did in eighties

748
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: six of the Masters, where he wanted out of nowhere.

749
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: So give me like another five years and give me

750
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: that Tiger Wood storyline. Until then, I'll take all the newcomers.

751
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: It's funny. So a buddy of mine, I got to

752
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: know this guy out here in l A. He went

753
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: to Stanford. I was in the same fraternity with Tiger,

754
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: and Tiger used his fake I D and their friends

755
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, he tells all these stories about

756
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: Tiger and it just sounds like exactly what you said.

757
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: He's he just could never consider that. He was never

758
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: like a badass. He was just like a nerdy kind

759
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: of guy. Yeah, I mean that's he's just like you

760
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: can't even fathom him going totally the opposite way. And

761
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: even with all the stories you hear from these dancers

762
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: in Vegas and whatever, it was like, you know, Tiger

763
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: was kind of nerdy, right, And I think, I mean,

764
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: that's just what we do to athletes, right, And I

765
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: think that the I think we in the past, we

766
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: always built these athletes up to be these deities, right,

767
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: like they were just these special guys that that just

768
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: lived this unbelievable life that they were. They were wired differently,

769
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: and ultimately it's kind of like the saying like stars

770
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: they're just like us, Like, yeah, they're They're kind of

771
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: that way. And I feel like where we've pivoted in

772
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: social media and us being available to see inside their

773
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: lives where we realize that they're extremely flawed people as well,

774
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: and they were always flawed Jordans. I mean, can you Jason,

775
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: you you know this as much social media as you do,

776
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: can you imagine what Jordan would have been like? After

777
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: watching Last Dance now and and for those people understand it,

778
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: like had Jordan's played in twenty nineteen and twenty like

779
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: the years of Lebron, we would have hated Michael Jordan

780
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: absolutely destroyed Michael Jordan for the person that he was

781
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: in the hot takes, and yet he gets kind of

782
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: a past because he was we we weren't allowed that

783
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: access to him. And I'd love to have flipped it

784
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: headed Lebron played in Jordan's time and Jordan played in

785
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: Lebron how we would have viewed those two characters. And

786
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: I think we would have viewed him completely different. And

787
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: that's just the sign of the times. By the way,

788
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: where are you on that? Are you Jordan better or

789
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: Lebron better? I think they're just I know my straight

790
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: And the hottest take of that is that they were

791
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: both amazing and that they both changed the game. Like

792
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: j Cole has a great line. Jacole has a great

793
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: line about what you know, um what it is. It's

794
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: about Lebron and Jordan. He's like both came through and

795
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: changed the game, but they weren't in the same you know,

796
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: at the same time. Like each of them brought something

797
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: unique to the game, and in a weird way. I

798
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: mean Tiger Tiger brought something unique to the game of

799
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: golf as well too. I mean that's it's it's just

800
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: strange times that I it stinks because sometimes I wish

801
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: we could go back and like a time machine and

802
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: take the unbelievable athleticism and storylines we have now, but

803
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: get rid of the crap of social media and the

804
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: turning into you know, the Jeremy leonization of of athletes,

805
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: to where all of a sudden something happens and boom,

806
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: we snap our finger, going, is this guy the next

807
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: greatest thing? Like that used to take months and sometimes

808
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: years from our storyline to developments, and now it's it's

809
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: legitimately forty five minutes, like you know, and and and unfortunately,

810
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: as we continue to erode the stars that quickly, how

811
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: are we, ever, how is every any kind of flame

812
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: ever going to stay lit if we continue to just

813
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: kind of just burn and turn them that that quick

814
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: right now, it's weird quickly. On Tiger, I was a

815
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: I think I was in college when Tiger popped, or

816
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: I was like right out of college in New York

817
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: City and you know, you're trying to be a playboy

818
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: and make things happen. I did not consume a lot

819
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: of Tiger Woods golf action. Uh when he would like

820
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: ascending what was that early two thousands, Yeah, I'd say,

821
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: I mean ninety seven is when he wanted and kind

822
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: of really got on the scene. But if you do golf,

823
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: you were watching him probably like ninety five and US

824
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: AM s and stuff like that, I'd say probably I

825
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: missed all this one. And I was a big sports guy.

826
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: I just you know, I my weekends were like with

827
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: my buddies. You know, we were, you know, trying to

828
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: hook up with girls and we were trying to have fun.

829
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: Should have been hanging out with Tiger a little bit,

830
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: and I really I kind of missed it, and I

831
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: just yeah, anyways, but it is so what's interesting about

832
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: Tiger and coming back is I don't know if we'll

833
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: ever see and I'm sure maybe we will, because we

834
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: never thought we'd see a Tiger or even a Lebron.

835
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: I wonder sometimes, will we ever see an athlete completely

836
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: transcend a sport? Right, even Lebron hows good as Lebron is.

837
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: We saw what Jordan did, right, and then even we

838
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: saw what Kobe did, and now we saw what on

839
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: like there were there were people that had kind of

840
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: built up these chapters to where we appreciated Lebron. But

841
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if we'll ever see somebody like what

842
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: Tiger did to the game of golf. Even Mahomes is incredible, right,

843
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: but we saw incredible play from Tom Brady. It's just

844
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: a different style. But I just don't know in the

845
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Speaker 1: in the games that we have, in the sports we

846
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: have now, if someone will ever come through to through

847
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: and be like you, like, even if you're not a fan,

848
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: you have to watch what this guy is doing because

849
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: it's absolutely out of control and Tiger might be one

850
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: of the last kind of transcendent sports figures whatever happened

851
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: right before social media happened. Any winners this weekend? Do

852
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: you have any do you have? Do you bet on golf?

853
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: Very rarely? I mean, so what I end up like,

854
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: like I like to do is I'll take maybe one

855
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: or two flyers, and you know guys that I kind

856
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: of like. I mean, obviously, I've got a personal relationship

857
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: a little bit with Justin Thomas, so I always put

858
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: a couple of dollars on him just because I'm like,

859
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: you know what, he's an Alabama guy. He is talking

860
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: trash about my LSU Tigers this week, so I'm like,

861
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll still put us some money on him. Um,

862
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: But but it's august is such a tough place right

863
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: now to pick against Bryson and what he's doing. I mean,

864
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: I still think that there's some value in the odds

865
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: that you get just because the field is so big.

866
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: I mean, what he's doing right now is Realistically, I

867
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: think after this week it won't be just Augusta. But

868
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: I think the game of golf itself is going to

869
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: have to look at is how how do we change

870
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: it up? Because remember when Tiger one Jason, they started

871
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: quote unquote Tiger proofing Augusta right in other so, all

872
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden it was, hey, now these courses which

873
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: are normally seven thousand yards are gonna be seventy six

874
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: hundred yards, right, well, Tiger proof it. Well, actually that

875
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: made it easier for Tiger to win because with it,

876
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: with it being a longer course, it favored a longer hitter.

877
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: And so I think in a way that in order

878
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: to contradict what Bryson is doing, I mean, the way

879
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 1: he's hitting the golf ball is it's not even human.

880
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: It's like playing golden tea. Right now, they're gonna have

881
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: to go back to actually a lot shorter golf courses,

882
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: and that way it brings more of the field together

883
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: because he's not it's I mean, he's doing well. He's

884
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: not utterly dominating and eviscerating like Tiger did it. It's

885
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 1: it's it's I mean, if you saw but but we're

886
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: only seeing Bryson to you know, this is the new Bryson.

887
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: Bryson two point oh and after what he did with

888
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: the US Open, and and you go back to Augusta.

889
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: The years that you've had people that have had success

890
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: that drive the ball extremely well, like Bubba Watson led

891
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: the tour in twelve he ended up winning and driving

892
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: distance he did it in teen, Dustin Johnson, J. B. Holmes, Mcarroy,

893
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: all these guys, they're almost guaranteed top ten, like any

894
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: person in the last what twenty years that has led

895
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: the tour in driving distance has finished top ten at Augusta.

896
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: You combine that with the fact that I'm sitting here

897
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: just down the road from it, and it is storming

898
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be wet as hell. The guys that

899
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: have hit the ball long, they the amount of the

900
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: amount of more success that they'll have on a wet

901
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: golf course is gonna be exponential. So it's hard for

902
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: me to bet against. I mean, I think, I think

903
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: right now, if you go like top twenty, you'll probably

904
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: get like minus to fifty odds on Bryson. I feel

905
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: like that is an incredible, incredible use of your major,

906
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: all right, I hear I put a little bit of money,

907
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: pizza money on a few guys to win it. Uh.

908
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: I took a super long shot on Zack Johnson. I mean,

909
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: that's a pipe dree. But Tony finn ou plus I

910
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: got him over plus three thousand, cantile A plus undred

911
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: and Zander plus Sanders been playing so well. I mean,

912
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: but Xander's play probably is a little bit better because

913
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: he strikes the iron so well. He's such a good

914
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: ball striker, but I don't know if he has the distance.

915
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: Like for me, the money play for anything is anybody

916
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: who drives the ball consistently within one of the top

917
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: twenty on tour. And that's why I do like Justin

918
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: Thomas and how far he hits it. Feed now is

919
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: interesting because fee now, earlier this season he started kind

920
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: of messing around with different drivers and wanted to see, hey, listen,

921
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: if I got crazy, how fast can I get my

922
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: swing speed? Like if I did the equipment just to

923
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: kind of see female has got a different gear to

924
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: them as well. Now a lot of golfers don't do

925
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: that because they can't control it the way that they do, right,

926
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: and they control it as much as they want. But

927
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: feenwe is intriguing to me. I think there's some value

928
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: and feenale, But I honestly wouldn't put anything more than

929
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: pizza money on somebody who's not within the top fifteen

930
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: a driving distance because it's gonna be so wet this week. Yeah,

931
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: I just put twenty five bucks on Justin Thomas. I

932
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: don't who know pizza money? You know what's what happened? Listen.

933
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: It gives us. And I think that's the other explosion

934
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: of of of sports that we've seen during this pandemic, right,

935
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like people are bored as hell they

936
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: want to put a couple of dollars on it. And

937
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: I remember the NFL for the longest time, you know,

938
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: when you and I were probably doing these segments in

939
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: Denver back in the day, the NFL would be like,

940
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: God forbid, there's no gambling, will never be a part

941
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: of it. And now it's like the fan duel sports

942
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: book Player of the Week, and you know it's just

943
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: it's hilarious. Desperate times calls for desperate measures, and now

944
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: they fully have unlocked that potential. So all right, folks,

945
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: Peter Burns, you gotta follow him on social media. He's

946
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: a he's a good How many kids you got? Now

947
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: you got five? Two that I know of. So, and

948
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: how about this. They're both born on Halloween on Nick

949
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 1: Saban's birthday. We got My daughter bow was turned three

950
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: on Halloween, and my son Thomas turned one on Halloween,

951
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: so you can tell. You can tell. Right after college

952
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: football season is over, my wife and I go to

953
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: like some exotic vacation for a couple of days, and

954
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: then nine months later we end up having any food.

955
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: So I'm like, pop them out, not gonna have any more.

956
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: We're no more. Uh no, not yet, but kicking the nuts.

957
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: If I ended up having another kid, I'm like, why, dude.

958
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: They're fun, but I like a lot of work. One

959
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: was amazing, okay, and I love too because now I

960
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: got the boy and girl. So I'm oh, that's what

961
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: I got. Yes, So now I got I don't want

962
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: to go back to playing like I want to want

963
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: to be outnumbered at all. Like right now I'm playing bandaman.

964
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 1: It is fine, but if I gotta go play zone

965
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: against three on two. But the experiences you've got anyways,

966
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: all right, Peter Burns SEC Network golf star. Uh, and

967
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: he watched Real Sex when he was at his friend's

968
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: house when he was like twelve years old. Like everybody else.

969
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: I love how that's how we started and ended the podcast.

970
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: I feel like it was we are young men. We

971
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: you know what's on our minds. All right, everybody, thank

972
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: you Peter, and uh, we'll see you tomorrow. The only

973
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: thing better than sitting on your couch watching the game.

974
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: He's making money while he's doing. Here's your best bet.

975
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: Great stuff from Peter Burns. Good guy and you know,

976
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: terrific announcer, just a smart voice in the sports space.

977
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: I like his work a lot. Alright, it's time for

978
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: the best bet. I haven't liked the work recently of

979
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 1: the best bet folks. Let me give you the record

980
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: thirty nine, thirty two and five. I know it doesn't

981
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: sound bad, but holy oh, what a losing streak run

982
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: and and you know, listen, you own it. When you're hot,

983
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: you enjoy the riches and the victories and you got

984
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: to own the losses. This is staggering. Are you ready

985
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: for this? I have lost Monday Night Football, Thursday Night Football,

986
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football and Monday Night Football consecutively. That streak

987
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: needs to end. It's been a blood bath in cosa

988
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: day McIntyre and listen. Obviously we've given back some of

989
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: the winnings. But if you've been on board of this

990
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: podcast from the jump, we've won you a lot of money, NBA, NFL.

991
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: It's been a good run. We will get back. Listen.

992
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: If you've been gambling along enough, you know there's gonna

993
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: be down down periods. Uh. There was a movie that

994
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: I really liked. Um, She's the one. Um. The guy's

995
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: married to Jennifer Aniston and he's cheating on her with

996
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: Cameron Diaz and he keeps not wanting to have sex

997
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: with Jennifer Aniston. So he's like, we're just in a

998
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: down cycle. He keeps saying that I hit a down

999
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: cycle this last week. It's gonna be fine. We're bouncing

1000
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: out of it. Thursday Night Football Colts at the Titans. Now,

1001
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: if if you bet this earlier and you like the team,

1002
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: I like, you got plus two with the Colts. I

1003
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: am taking the Colts, but sadly, as we record this,

1004
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: the line is pick up. Now why is it pick up?

1005
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: If the Colts are coming off that bad loss and

1006
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans are coming off a victory, a curb

1007
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: stomping if you will, of uh the Chicago Bears. Well

1008
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 1: this this is not that difficult, folks. When you look

1009
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: at the Colts, they are the better team, well rounded. Obviously,

1010
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: Tennessee's got the better receiver in A. J. Brown. However,

1011
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton is back. He missed the Ravens game.

1012
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: You know, without t Y Hilton that offense can't do

1013
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: Jack squad, nobody, vertical. You don't have to respect it.

1014
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: Second half, Baltimore totally shut them down there one yard

1015
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. Um in a issue. Indianapolis really

1016
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: good running the football, Tennessee bad run defense, Tennessee bad

1017
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 1: past defense. Yes, they did add Desmond King from the Chargers,

1018
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: and he picked up a scoop and score against the

1019
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: Bears in his debut. Not bad. But but the Colts

1020
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: have dominated this series, and I know Frank Greik hasn't

1021
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: been there for all these the Colts have won fourteen

1022
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: of sixteen against the Titans. This is a regional matchup.

1023
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: The entire Titans team has been throttled for a considerable

1024
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: time here in the division. Now, I don't love the

1025
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: Colts here. I do like the Colts here. I give

1026
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: an advantage to Frank Reich. I know Rabels had a

1027
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: good year, but I still think the side here is

1028
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: the Colts on the road. Now, let me give you

1029
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 1: a couple of interesting numbers here Divisional underdogs twenty eight

1030
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: and fifteen against the spread this year fourteen and four.

1031
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, twenty nine and fifteen after the Jets cover

1032
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: twenty nine and fifteen against the spread fifteen and four

1033
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: the last three weeks, Divisional underdogs are playing well. Chuck

1034
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: it up to whatever you will, but this is a

1035
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 1: good spot for a team with a lot of familiarity

1036
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: of this Tennessee running offense. And the last note, I

1037
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 1: will say Darius Leonard is one of the best linebackers

1038
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: in the league. He is a tackling machine. I think

1039
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: he had fifteen tackles against the Ravens. They couldn't move

1040
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: the football, by the way, the Ravens could not move

1041
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: the football on the turf against his Colds defense. Darius

1042
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: Leonard is healthy and playing now. So for some reason

1043
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: he's out. I'm telling you right now, do not bet

1044
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: on the Colds. Derrick Henry will have another two yard game,

1045
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: but with Leonard in there t Y Hilton returning, there

1046
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: is some injury concerns on the Tennessee offensive line. Obviously,

1047
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: we know Taylor Lawan is out for the season. Uh

1048
00:52:55,360 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: and you know he's he's their best, uh best offensive lineman,

1049
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: their second best offensive lineman. Saffold, he was hurt in

1050
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: the last game. He looks like he will play. He

1051
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: has been practicing this week. UM, so that's the good news.

1052
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 1: But overall, I think the side here by the way,

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Speaker 1: a Doory Jackson, the guy that Titans have been waiting

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Speaker 1: on all season, their best cornerback out again, will not play.

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Speaker 1: Looks like his season maybe over Um, I am taking

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Speaker 1: the Colts, pick them to snap the losing streak. Everybody

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Speaker 1: enjoyed Thursday night football. We'll see you tomorrow.