1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: You should hit the road more often. Hey, you know 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: that the quality of life around here definitely diminished from 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: that around Hopefully whatever we talk about here hasn't happened 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: by the time that you're listening to this. Check the phone. 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: Oh as it texting? You said he cut you. You're out, 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: You're out. Down, Welcome into the lounge. I'm Ryan Mink 7 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: and I'm Garrett Downing. Back in the lounge after a 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: week in Chili, Indianapolis scouting. Yeah, it's nice to be back, 9 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: come mines nice. I enjoyed the week. I enjoyed the 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: trump cocktails, say almos and all that stuff. But by 11 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: the end of the week it was it was time 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: to go. Did you cry from like? What is it? Sauce? 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: I like it. Some people think it's too much. I 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: like it. It's like incredibly potent for like five seconds, 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: but then it goes away, just clears you out and 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: is kind of like a whoof you know that feeling? 17 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: What was the temptate like in uh India? Oh, it 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: was supposed to be nice. I thought it was going 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: to be like in the forties and fifties, which is 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: nice this time the year in Indianapolis, So I packed 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: kind of light light jacket and then it was like 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: low twenties the intern we were there, Windy. I made 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: really good use of the indoor tunnels. They're nice. Well, 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: it was beautiful in Baltimore. You missed out, and I 25 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: was really nice while you were gone the office. The 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: lounge was really nice too. It's kind a little quieter. 27 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: Didn't have you yapping at me all the time. You 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: should hit the road more often. Hey, you know, you 29 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: know that the quality of life around here definitely diminished 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: when I'm that around. All Right, Well, we're gonna dive 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: heavy into the combine and kind of some year takeaways 32 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: from that read first, Yeah, we're gonna do that, but 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna do that. And free agency we are going 34 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: to do but we are going to do both. Yeah. 35 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: So we're gonna try not to date this thing because 36 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: things are gonna happen really quickly. Seriously, we might sign 37 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: somebody while we're taping this. It really could happen. I mean, 38 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: people who have been asking like one or moves gonna 39 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: happen when you guys gonna cut guys or any of 40 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: that stuff. It could happen. We've been saying it now 41 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: for like ten days, but it really could happen at 42 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: any point. Yeah, I got my cell phone out on 43 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: Twitter as we see. So yeah, but the email we 44 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: want to get to, Uh, this is pretty awesome. This 45 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: might be one of our best emails yet. Uh. And 46 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: loyal Lounge listeners remember back to the last podcast not 47 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: too long ago, our interview with Crockett Gilmore, in which 48 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: I pitched him my spectacular idea of like a construction 49 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: zone kind of business in which average Joe's like us 50 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: could operate heavy machinery and just bullows rack and blow 51 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: up and all that kind of stuff. Right, And I 52 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: said I was going to start this with Crockett. He 53 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: turned me down, unfortunately his loss. But it turns out 54 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: this already exists. Well, I knew it existed. I told 55 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: I had to break the news to you that it 56 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: did exist. I've seen it elsewhere, but this email revealed 57 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: But you said I don't think it exists in Baltimore 58 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: in Maryland, right, Well I was wrong about that too. 59 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: For two, this comes from Mark even Us and he says, gentlemen, 60 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: we have had numerous people reach out to us after 61 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: hearing your podcast where you wanted to start a business 62 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: that people could play on heavy equipment. To answer your question, 63 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: it does exist here in Maryland. My name is Mark 64 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: Stevens and I am owner operator of Heavy Metal Playground 65 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: based in Frederick, Maryland. So the whole thing it exists. 66 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 1: He invites us out to do some cool stuff, maybe 67 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: wreck a Steelers car. Just a little preview. Alright, we 68 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: got something's gonna happen here. I'm not sure if I'm 69 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: going to destroy something. Maybe we can get like Wettle 70 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: out there. I don't know, something cool. Can we put 71 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: you in the Steeler's car and I'll dry the rockeyball? No, 72 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: hell no, I used to have a yellow car. That 73 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: was the closest I can would ever come to a 74 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: Steelers car. But anyway, that's yeah, that's a good email, Mark, 75 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: and I really can't wait for that opportunity, maybe a 76 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: corporate outing. I like that idea to be really cool. 77 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: We gotta find some some ways to use this, Yes, definitely. 78 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: So with that mind, or moving on from that, I 79 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: should say, Garrett, who are we drafting this year? You 80 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: just got in the combine and I don't want to 81 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: hear who we're taking in the first round. Your opinion? 82 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: Now I have to go in the combine. All right, 83 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: So obviously I don't know who we're gonna draft, but 84 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: I will say this a couple clear themes. One, we're 85 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: gonna draft a cornerback at some point early in the 86 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: first in the first two days. We're gonna draft the 87 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: corner in the first first two days, first two days round. 88 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: So one maybe could be multiple corners in that in 89 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: that span and that. But how did that change from 90 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: the combine. Well, I think what's become more clear from 91 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: the combine is that there's really really good corners that 92 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: you'll be able to get in the second and third round. 93 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Mike Mayo spelled it out pretty well, and he basically said, 94 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, historically speaking, the average is twelve corners in 95 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: the first three rounds. It is like around that range. 96 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: And he broke it down he had like seventeen or 97 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: eighteen guys with first three round grades this year, So 98 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: you could have you know, that's eighteen guys that have 99 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: really high grades on them. You can get somebody, Ravens 100 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: can realistically get somebody in the second round who most years, 101 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: without question, would be first round talent. Now, you know, 102 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: you don't want to like wait too long, but I 103 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: think that, like, after seeing these guys on the field, 104 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: the general consensus is, Okay, we thought this class was 105 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: gonna be good, and now he saw him on the field, 106 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: and we know it's really good from what the workouts 107 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: showed us. So really good corner class. I liked some 108 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: of the pass rushers. I'll give you a couple of 109 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: guys that stood up to me, Tech McKinley, outside linebacker, 110 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: U c l a film. This is your guy, this 111 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: is my guy. He just has this Like I liked 112 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: his overall story. He's got someone who came from a 113 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: really hard background. He was sharing during his media session, 114 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: which there's probably I don't know, say seventy five reporters there, 115 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: and he was just so forthcoming about the final moments 116 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: of his grandma's life when she passed away in the 117 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: last Yeah, and he was just very open, and um, 118 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, that's kind of like the difficult 119 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: thing to share. Um. So I really kind of liked 120 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: the story. He's he's big into Ramen Noodles. And the 121 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: funny thing is is like he basically said, I didn't 122 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: have much growing up and Ramen Noodles was always there 123 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: for me. Someone before therefore rom noodles forever. He's lining 124 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: up as endorson versus deal. Is he shrimp gut? You 125 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: got to ask the tough follow up questions, Is he 126 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: a shrimp rumbing guy? He like rattled off ten different ones, 127 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: and he was like, I like him, all I like him? 128 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: All right, I'm a chicken guy. Yeah, and so he um. 129 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: He's an outside linebacker pass rusher type. Played the last 130 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: two seasons with the torn labor and his shoulder said, 131 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: no big deal. I just played through it. Minds me 132 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: of like a Marshal Yonda. Yeah, a guy like that 133 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: plays through an injury. That sounds like a Raven. Now, 134 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: the issue with him is that he's having surgery on 135 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: Monday to repair it. By the way, he went through 136 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: the entire combine, including bench press, with the torn labor 137 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: and said, I've been playing for it for two years, 138 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: No big deal. So now he's having surgery on Monday 139 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: to repair it. It's a four to six month for 140 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: covery time. So now he misses his entire first off season, 141 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: which is a critical offseason. So maybe that puts him. 142 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: Maybe he falls into the second round. Some mock drafts. 143 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: How the Ravens taking him in the first round at sixteen. 144 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if the shoulder thing would push him 145 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: all the way to the second But someone I really liked. 146 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: I like Taco Charlton from Michigan because of the name, 147 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: because the name. There's a theme here, the ramen tacos. Yeah, 148 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: I'm all food guys. That was my first question. All 149 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: those guys, you have any interesting food stories names, Yeah, 150 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: food names, anything like that. So Taco Tuesday, big fan 151 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: of him. I think that he would be like a 152 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: ideal outside linebacker that the Ravens could use as a 153 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: pass rusher Um alongside Terrell Songs eventually long term replacement there. 154 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: I also like guys a little bit of swagger, and 155 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: both these guys had a little bit of swagger. Um 156 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver is an interesting like I like that Juju 157 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: Smith Schuster yeah, usc yeah, yeah yeah. The Bolden guy, 158 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: he's like he it seems just like Bolden, big, strong, physical, 159 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: not that fast. So he's somebody that I really you know, 160 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens could maybe second round pick for him. 161 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: There's a lot of like second round guys here. That's 162 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: the thing. Like, I feel like it's gonna keep being like, 163 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: oh yeah, this guy is really good. Man. They can 164 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: probably get this guy in the second round. It's like, damn, 165 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: I wish we had like five second round picks I 166 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: know well, and and they're gonna take so many in 167 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: the first round two, you know. And so who could 168 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: that be? Like I think Derek Burnett from Tennessee, Yeah, 169 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: I think he could be good. I also really like 170 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: Sydney Jones from Washington. He measured in six fight six 171 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: round of four four seven. Yeah, so like not huge, 172 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: but like that's a long lean quarter um and you 173 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: over six under. I'm over six ft. I'm not over 174 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: six but I am over six ft based on the way. 175 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: You haven't seen the gym in months. You've got you 176 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: got to be pushing two these days. I'm tony. It's bad. Yeah, 177 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: you're the five eight, You're like the landed for net. 178 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: You're the landed for net of the water. Yeah, water 179 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: weight two of water. I got to stay hydrated from 180 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: my job. And by the way, I don't think there's 181 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: any way that Marshawn Lattimore from Ohio State probably the 182 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: best corner in the class. He's not fallen to the rate. 183 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: He run a fourth three six right. Let me ask 184 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: you this, so, like, if do you think the wide 185 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: receivers Mike Williams and Corey Davis, were they impressive enough 186 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: and Davis didn't go through a lot of stuff, right, 187 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: were they impressive enough to be for the pike at sixteen? 188 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: You know, could you see the Ravens taken Mike Williams. 189 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: It's so hard to say. Mike Williams didn't run a 190 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: fort yar dash And that's like the question on him, right, 191 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: are you fast? He can make the big tough physical catches, 192 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be gone. You would have to think 193 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: that there's going to be a receiver taken in the 194 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: top fifteen, he's probably gonna be first. But if he's 195 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: there looking at the place that I saw him making college, 196 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, he would be worth that pick. There 197 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: are questions about a speed and those won't get answered 198 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: for the next couple of weeks until he runs. Corey 199 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: Davis didn't run anything because he had a high ankle 200 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: spring and had two torn ligaments that he had surgery 201 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: to repair, and he's not even gonna be able to 202 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: run maybe at all before the draft. So he says 203 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: that he'll be in April at some point, but his 204 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: pro days in two weeks, he's not going to be 205 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: able to run and do those workouts. He said he 206 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 1: might exactly from private workouts. Teams might I want to 207 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: get a look at him. He scares me a little 208 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: bit because he's a Western Michigan and guy, and you 209 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: just wonder about making that jump, especially as a first 210 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: round pick. So to answer your question, I think Mike 211 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: Williams would probably be worth it. I had my invitations 212 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: about Corey Davis, even though people that what can the 213 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: tape say that he is? Mike Mayoich has him, is 214 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: his top overall drack prospect, Who wide receivering prospect? Who 215 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: else at cornerback? If you're not talking about Sidney Jones? Like, 216 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: who else? Kind of draw a lot of it, drew 217 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: a lot of attention to combine who kind of stood out? 218 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: Who do you think could be in play at sixteen? Well? 219 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: Teas Tabor from Florida. He was somebody that he made 220 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: no bones about it when he came into the media 221 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: room and said everyone that he told everyone that he's 222 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: the best cornerback in this year's draft and the best 223 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: player in this year's draft. And every team is interested 224 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: in him. He went on that whole thing. Then he 225 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: ran a four six two not very good questions. The 226 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: question on him was how fast you're going to be 227 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: and he wasn't very fast, and so a lot of 228 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: people thought he could be in play for the Ravens 229 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: in the first round. Maybe he's another guy that slides 230 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: down into the second round because of the questions about 231 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: his speed. And he's like the big playmaking guy, like 232 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: had like a bunch of picks, he had touchdowns all that. 233 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: That's his calling card. Yeah, playmaking. The other guy that 234 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: kind of went the other way. And actually I did 235 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: him and the two players at two corners, so I 236 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: think would be good fits the Ravens. I did Gary 237 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: and Connley from Ohio State. He's the guy on the 238 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: other side of Marshall latin War. I said that maybe 239 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: he's the second round option. He might be a first 240 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: round pick. He had a great workout, ran in the 241 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: four fours. He's somebody that seems to be going up 242 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: wards while tees table might be sliding. Now boards this 243 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: is like one of those times every year before the 244 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: draft where everybody who performs well then they're like, well, 245 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: he might be a first round pick, and all of 246 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: a sudden, like how many first con picks do we 247 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: have here? Fifty guys like the Hassan Reddick kid, you know, 248 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: definitely and Temple the linebacker. Now he was he's the 249 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: first round pick. I was at the Senior Bowl and 250 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: people didn't know who the hell this guy was. Now 251 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: he was like a third round pick, fourth round pick, 252 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: and now it's oh, you go first rounds round. You know, 253 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: It's just it's kind of crazy, but it definitely is. 254 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: And like, look, I don't think that the combine should 255 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: be the end all be all by any means. It 256 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: is a piece that's a percentage probably a when you're 257 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: looking at building an overall draft board and grade against prospect, 258 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: Like at the end of the day, they put on 259 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: pads and they play football. They don't run in straight lines, 260 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: and you're underwear, so you have to take all of 261 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: that in perspective, right, but you're you're you fall in 262 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: love with Tech McKinley. Tech McKinley. I like him that 263 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: I think he would be you know, I was looking 264 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: for two days one players too, just like physically look 265 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: good good stories. You know, we're suckers for good stories. 266 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: Is always getting duped into that. Yeah, swagger. I want 267 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: somebody with a little personality. I will love that. So 268 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: anybody that came in there and just answered generic questions 269 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: with kind of simple answers, I don't want. I don't want. 270 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: To give me a little swagger, give me a little confidence. 271 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: We wouldn't have drafted Ronnie Stanley if if that were 272 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: the criteria. And he's turned out pretty good. I know. 273 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: That's why I'm That's why I'm sitting in the lounge 274 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: and not making draft picks. Yeah exactly. So, uh, move 275 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: into story time a little bit. You know, we kind 276 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: of lost track of story time. We gotta bring storytime. 277 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: You ran in Steve Smith interview at the combine. Just 278 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: how Steve doing. Give us a little update on Steve 279 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: from your perspective. I mean, he seems that he's loving it. Um, 280 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: he's having a great time with the NFL network. I 281 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: think he's good. I think he's going to be good 282 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: on TV. Um. He said he's gonna come to our 283 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: game in London next year. He worked it with the 284 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: NFL network so that he's going to be able to 285 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: come to our game in London next year. Get a 286 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: point with him there? We go. He seemed to be 287 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: pretty excited about that. Um, he's not coming back. He's 288 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: not gonna play football anymore. Gather that. Yeah, he's done. 289 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: And you guys like traveling the world and stuff too. 290 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: I mean, before all this started, he was going all 291 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: over the place. Yeah, and I think he still has 292 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: plans to do that. I think he's going to Japan. Um. 293 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: It was funny. I was talking to Janiel Daniel Jeremiah 294 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: from the NFL Network because him and Steve were on 295 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: set the entire day together, and he was just talking 296 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: about how like Steve is great. He said, Steve is 297 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: really good, and he said maybe some of the best 298 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: stuff is actually a self off camera. He said that 299 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: would be more of an HBO special. But he loved it. 300 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: I mean, it was good to see him. The other 301 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: thing too, that I was joking with Steve about is 302 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: like he just seemed like there was like a weight 303 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: lifted off his shoulders. The chip on his shoulder is 304 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: kind of like gone gone. You've played sixty years, you've 305 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: accomplished what you've accomplished, and now you're moving on and 306 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: you don't have to like try to prove everyone wrong again, right, right, 307 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: And then have that edge. Yeah, it's a lot easier. 308 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: Like now it's he gets to relax. I said, I 309 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: finally gets relax and I could see that that's awesome. Yeah. 310 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: I thought it was funny because he was on the 311 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: mic on John Ross Is four to two forty right, 312 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: like he wouldn't stop talking, Like it was really funny 313 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: because like Eisen is like he runs the four two 314 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: two right, and Eisen is like or may I first 315 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: like wow that just happened or something like that, and 316 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: then Eisen is trying to give like I mean, it's 317 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: a forty yard dash, but it's a historical moment, like 318 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: he just broke the record, and Eisen is trying to 319 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: be like, folks, we have just seen history made right. 320 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: And Steve's just being Steve. He's just like Scott. I 321 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: was like, wow, he just ran into an injury, Like, 322 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, man, if if that were me, I 323 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: just pack up and fly home right now, you know. 324 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: And he just kept cutting off eyes and and eyes 325 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: and was like letting him talk. I was like, it 326 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: was just great. It was classic Steve. It was he 327 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: was just very real reacting to that moment. Yeah, and 328 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: he just he was having fun he was, he was 329 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: having fun and the other thing two on him. It 330 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: was funny because everybody wanted to talk to him, and 331 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: there was a scout from another team. I don't even 332 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: know who he was. I think he was a scout. 333 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: After we did our interview with him, this guy came 334 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: up and just said, Hey, it's either his mom or 335 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: his wife or somebody is always a huge fan of 336 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: He loved you, and the guy wanted to get a 337 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: picture with him. So this is somebody that's like works 338 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL, is around these guys all the time, 339 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: but Steve Smith was significant enough to him that he 340 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: wanted to get a picture with him. You know, like 341 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: that tells you about the kind of respect that he 342 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: has in that room. Did you ever wear you got 343 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: some of his onesies? You got the Darth Vader onesie? 344 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: You got the Darth Vader. I became his onesie guy. 345 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: You were You were his onesie guys. He has some 346 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: Steve Smith collectible onesies? Have you worn him? I have not. 347 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: I was collecting him for a onesie party. So when 348 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: that one party happens, I'll be ready. I'll be ready 349 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: to break him out. You know, I'm gonna have to 350 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: say one party hasn't happened. I'm gonna start hosting one's 351 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: de hardsy parties because I'm gonna I just have a 352 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: collection of Yeah, did you give me back to you 353 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: at one? You did? Yeah? Yeah, I give it back. 354 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: I gotta find it. Sure, I definitely get it back too. Alright, 355 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: So moving on, let's talk a little free agency, because 356 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: I think that's obviously something that a lot of fans 357 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: are talking about, thinking about what's gonna happen, And hopefully 358 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: whatever we talk about here hasn't happened by the time 359 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: that you're listening to this. Check the phone exactly. Yeah, 360 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: let's check the check Twitter. Yeah, I don't think anything 361 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: has happened. I got to see text me and told 362 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: me you cut anybody yet? Oh as he texted me, 363 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: you said he cut you. You're out, You're out down. Well, 364 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: I guess I'm taking over the podcast. Um So, I 365 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: think the biggest issue obviously is are the Ravens gonna 366 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: keep Brandon Williams. That's their biggest thing, as everybody wants 367 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: to know about his fan favorite all that stuff. Uh, 368 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: and it's not looking great in terms of getting the 369 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: deal done before he hits the open market right now, 370 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: because you would think, I mean, I guess deals happened 371 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: in the eleventh hour sometimes, and we're coming right up 372 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: against it, and starting Tuesday at four pm, I think 373 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: Tuesday at noon, he can start talking to other teams 374 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: and stuff. His agent Kent. Yeah, it's really difficult to see. Like, 375 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: once these guys sit the market, once they're they're knocking 376 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: on the doors. One as well, you've waited this long, exact, 377 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: you might as well go test the waters, right like, 378 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: unless they're just gonna get bowled over by some deal 379 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: that the Ravens offer them, you know, and they just 380 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: are like one of those guys like I don't even 381 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: want to deal with free agency, Like yeah, sure it's good, 382 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: I'll sign it, but that is rare, right, And you 383 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: know that they've already been negotiating, and so if there 384 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: was a deal from the Ravens that he felt like 385 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 1: was worth taking, probably would have signed it already, rightly. 386 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: So I think he's probably gonna hit the market. And 387 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: then when you hit the market, it's tough to keep 388 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: guys because it's cliche it only takes one. But you 389 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: can have a team that decides to make him the 390 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: highest fade defensive tackle in the game with a ton 391 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: of cap space. I mean, the Browns have like a 392 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars in cap space. And if they want 393 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: to make him the highest faide defensive tackle in the game, 394 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: well I can do it. Right any team, any team 395 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: that looks at their roster and says, you know what, 396 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: if we can stop the run, then I think we're 397 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: a playoff team and a championship contender. And if they 398 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: see him as the one guy and they say all 399 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: of our answers can be solved by signing that guy, 400 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: and they have a lot of cap space, it's not 401 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: good for the Ravens. Now. With that said, uh, you know, 402 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: I do genuinely believe that the Ravens are making every 403 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: effort that they can without just absolutely crushing themselves. And 404 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: I genuinely believe that Brandon Williams wants to be a Raven. Um. 405 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: You know, I think I think Collecchio assembly wanted to 406 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: be a Raven. He would have liked to have stayed, 407 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: but he was going to take the biggest payday and whatever. 408 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that Brandon will turn down the 409 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: biggest money um, but if it's like anywhere close I 410 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: think that Brandon would come back to the Ravens. Yeah. 411 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: The thing that's so interesting to me right now, and 412 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: this is not just about Brandon Williams, but it's about 413 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: everything that's happening. It's it's like the duck that's float 414 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: it's on the water. There's a lot happening beneath the surface. 415 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: Like everyone's like, why is it so quiet right now? 416 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean free agency kind of opens tomorrow, you know, 417 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: because that's Whendy We're gonna start seeing a lot of 418 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: reports to us and so follow schefter, right, And the 419 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: Ravens haven't at the time of recording this podcast, they 420 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: have not extended restricted free agent tenders. They have not 421 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: cut anybody, they have not traded in anybody, they have 422 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 1: not extended anybody. So like, there's a lot that's still uncertain, 423 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: and I just think that there's so many moving pieces 424 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: and a domino has to fall, Like, well, I don't 425 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: know what that domino is, but at some point, a 426 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: domino has to fall, and there needs to be some 427 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,719 Speaker 1: sort of ripple effective as a result of that, Like, 428 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with all these players that have been 429 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: speculated as potential guys that could take pay cuts well, 430 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: and Brandon's obviously. I mean, if you resigned Brandon to 431 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: a big deal, that's gonna affect how aggressive you can 432 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: be on the open market with other guys. If they 433 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: don't resign Brandon, you know, then we're gonna here, will 434 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: not bring Brandon back, allowed us to get X, X, 435 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: X and X. You know, that makes makes us better 436 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: in in these various ways. Um So, to me, I 437 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 1: think that's the biggest domino. And and the ravens Brandon 438 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: and and if you know, maybe if they don't bring 439 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: back Brandon, maybe that means okay, well, we're gonna increase 440 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: our offer to Rick Wagner and we're gonna get that 441 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: done and our right tackles set and or Kyle us check, 442 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: you know, and we're gonna be a better team on 443 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: offense than we then we would have otherwise been. And 444 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: will roll dice with Michael Pierce. You know, that to 445 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: me is the big domino that has to fall, because 446 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: I I have a hard time imagine that you can 447 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: bring back Brandon Juice and Ricky act so so to me, 448 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: that has that has to be the thing that's decided. 449 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: But There's also then's just still those guys that people 450 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: have mentioned as potential salary cap cuts, like where did 451 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: all those stand? Um, Brandon Marshall, is that kind of 452 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: our own right to the Ravens try to get guys 453 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: to take take us? Do they just cut certain players? 454 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: Like where what happens with all of that then dictates 455 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: exactly how much money did they have to go out there? 456 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: If they don't sign Here's the here's an interesting possibility 457 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: that nobody's really talking about. Say they don't sign Rick Wagner, 458 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: they don't sign Brandon Williams, and they don't sign Kyle 459 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: hush Check. Now all of a sudden, they cut some 460 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: of their own players. Now they've got some bush, you know, 461 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: like they could have twenty some million dollars to go 462 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: out there and try to get some players. Maybe they're 463 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: right in the middle of the Brandon Marshall sweepstakes or 464 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: Nick man Goold Pire Garson. Do they try to jump 465 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: in on like a sweepstakes with a big guy like 466 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: Tony Jefferson, the safety from Arizona or maybe he's going 467 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: to be getting some big money. Do they even venture 468 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: in to the alshon Jeffrey Torrell party territory. That doesn't 469 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: seem like moves that they typically make. But if they 470 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: don't sign any of those other guys that they don't 471 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: keep their own, then maybe they have the money to 472 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: go out there and try to do something like that. 473 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: That's an interesting possibility that could happen over the next 474 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: few days. Yeah, I mean, when you're talking about guys 475 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: who could be cut, I mean there's a lot of 476 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: rumors out there and we don't know who could be 477 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: cut and whatnot. But I mean, you have the possibility, 478 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: just looking at the numbers, to free up like eight 479 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: point five million in cap space right in addition to 480 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: the about fourteen million that's in place, right, that would 481 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: that would be that scenario. If you're freeing up twenty 482 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: eight and a half million dollars, that scenario would be 483 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: releasing Kyle Arrington, Elvis Dummerville, Kendrick Lewis, Dennis pit A, 484 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: not picking up Mike Wallace's option, Ben Watson Laterarious web 485 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: shreets right in Jeremy's Utah. Now, I don't think that 486 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. That's nine players, nine players. That would 487 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: be a massis like we've never seen. I don't think 488 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. But that's just I say that just 489 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: to say doing that would free up almost thirty million 490 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: dollars in cat suits, which is a lot, right, And 491 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, maybe you are in the 492 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: Alshon Jeffrey sweepstakes. Like I don't think Ashton Jeffrey is 493 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: gonna be the guy. I don't think he will either, 494 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like now things need, things can change, 495 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: like like a lot can happen, and where the Ravens 496 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: sit now, like you just you just have no idea. 497 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: They could go in so many different directions right now. 498 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: And I think that maybe why they're kind of quiet 499 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: is because like they're kind of letting the I think 500 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: they're trying to to get Brandon resigned, but if that 501 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: doesn't happen, they're going to let the field kind of 502 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: come to them, you know. Um. And I'm just saying, 503 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: don't mistake quiet for lack of activity. Having been in 504 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: Indianapolis last week, They're meeting with agents, they're trying to 505 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: make stuff happen. You know, it's busy behind the scenes, 506 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: and so you just don't know exactly how all those 507 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: conversations go and the other thing that I've learned is 508 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: like I don't buy into any of the all they're close, 509 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: they're far apart. Like all that is really conjecture, Like 510 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: until a deal is done, you're not close or somewhat 511 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: close or very close, like you are close when the 512 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: deal is done and you put the ink to the paper, 513 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: that's it, and so all the other like you know, 514 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: calculating where you are in the process is pretty worthless. 515 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: Let's do let's do a little I have a fire 516 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: free agent talk here, okay, real quick, guys who have 517 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: been linked to the Ravens as possible free agent editions, 518 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: and you give yea nay? And why okay? Brandon Marshall, Yeah, 519 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: I think it'd be great. He's a dynamic player, uh 520 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: he I think still has a lot left in the tank, 521 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: and he's exactly the kind of receiver that the Raiders 522 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: could use. So I would say, if you can get him, 523 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: that would be a huge free agent signing, similar to 524 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: what it was one of the Ravens got Steve Smith. 525 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: I can I think he could be a similar kind 526 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: of player as Steve Smith was. I give it a 527 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: yea as well as long as he has turned his 528 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: life life around from the past off field issues and 529 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: you're confident in that, which he's done a good job 530 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: of in recent years. Um, it's a big yeah. I've 531 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: liked that guy and thought that he was like the 532 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: missing piece or somebody like him for quite some time. 533 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: We need somebody to go up and make contested, big 534 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: catches down the field and not just to speed guy. Right, 535 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: that's what he does. So I'm a big ye on. 536 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: That carried Garth sl well. If you're assuming it's one 537 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: or the other, so I would be fine with Pierre Garson. 538 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, I think that he's If if 539 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: the option is to have Pierre Garson or not have 540 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: Pierre Garson. If the option is Pierregar Summer, Brandon Mischal Marshall, 541 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: then I would say Brandon Marshall. Now, if it's Pierre 542 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: Garson or not, then I would say, yeah, I'm Pierre Garson. 543 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: I think he's he's been highly productive. He had over 544 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: thousand yards last season. He would come in here and 545 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: assuming that Mike Wallace is back, that's a pretty good 546 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: once to punch with. Pshad Perriman also in the mix. 547 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: Garson reminds me like he reminds me a lot of 548 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: of Steve what Steve was like in terms he doesn't 549 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: have like the edge and the attitude that Steve does does. 550 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: But I think like what he does in the field 551 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of what Steve does. He's reliable, 552 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: He's gonna, you know, make all the catches, all that 553 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: run great routes and all that. But he doesn't add 554 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: any to me, doesn't add something new to the offense 555 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: that wasn't there last year, where Brandon Marshall does. So 556 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: you would say nay, Pierre Garson, No, I would say, well, 557 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: I would prefer Prior over him. Jeffrey Obviously he's gonna 558 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: get bigger money. Probably, Yes, I agree. So if I'm 559 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: not getting any of those guys just one. Yeah, I 560 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: don't think he's like a bad option. He just doesn't 561 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: excite me like the other guys do because I don't 562 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: think that he takes the offense the next step four. 563 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: He's almost like, we just we replaced Steve, you know 564 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: what I mean. That's my feeling there. But if you 565 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: replace Steve, that's a pretty big hold of film. And 566 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: if you can replace the offense has to get better. 567 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: The offense doesn't can't stay the same from last year. 568 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: It has to get better. Yeah, but if you if 569 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: the option again is Pierre Garson or nobody, well then 570 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: that would get worse, get worse. Uh, if you can 571 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: have any guy in free agency, who are you taking? 572 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall more so than Tal Prior Or? Maybe? Maybe? 573 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: I think Brandon Marshall has like three very good years 574 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: left probably, And I think that like Prior like excites me. 575 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: He's going to be a lot more expensive. I think, Um, 576 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: but he's and he's just a lot less proven. I mean, 577 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that, like I know absolutely that Arle 578 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: Prior is going to be a stud. Right, Yeah, that's 579 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: that's the question. He's only played receiver for a couple 580 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: of years now, like his second season playing receiver, he's 581 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: a thousand yard guy with Brown's quarterbacks throwing to him. 582 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: That's a pretty good indication that he could be a playmaker. 583 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: But your point, I think it's well taken. Uh what 584 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: about Mangolds? Your feeling on nickmake I think Nick Mangold 585 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: would could be a Matt Burke type addition, like he 586 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: seems to me, uh like a raven, you know, like 587 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: just in terms of his work, ethic, his attitude, how 588 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: he was revered in the community. You know, it clear. 589 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: It was clear that getting cut by the Jets or 590 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: something that hurt him. He wanted to finish his career there. 591 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: So a lot of disappointment, a lot of Steve Smith comparisons. 592 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: They're motivated, motivated, proved people wrong, spent his entire career 593 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: their borderline Hall of Fame career. I mean, I think 594 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: he's made seven Pro Bowls. Um, so he's on that verge. 595 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: And then there's the potential there, assuming he's healthy to 596 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: I think have a Matt Burke, you know, final three 597 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: years in Baltimore. Apparently some people are talking to him 598 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: about playing guard. Some NFL teams are talking to him 599 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: about such a guard if they're going to sign him, 600 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: but a center. I don't like it either, Yeah, especially 601 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: not for the Ravens. Yeah, I mean pretty set it guard. 602 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: Um and his meme game is on bloy. Yeah, that 603 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: sweet that he had was fantastic. I'm almost I'm a 604 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: fan just because of that. So you you're on board 605 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: with what I'm saying. We who do we disagree on? 606 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: That's a good question. What about Princess A Muka mora yah. 607 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: I take him all right now he disagree, This feels right. 608 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: I would take him, give him if sure. It depends 609 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: on the money. Everything does right to come out here 610 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: and play next years six pack, six pack of Flying 611 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: Dog Baby, come on out, absolutely, But yeah, he doesn't 612 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: excite me that I like the draft. Give me to 613 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: draft two corners, I know I would Sidney Jones, my boy, 614 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: Sidney Jones, Garry calmly first and second round. All of 615 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: a sudden you're and then Tavon Young still out there. 616 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: Pretty filthy now. Also, you have a really good secondary 617 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: that is not gonna happen, but not anyway. Thank you 618 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: all for listening, and I hope we kind of answered 619 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: a few of your free agency and draft questions from 620 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: the combine. What do you want? Sat on? Well, I 621 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: gotta give a shout out to the common man coming through. Well. 622 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: If you notice that the sound quality on the podcast 623 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: is improved, is because the common man hooked it up 624 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: with a really nice pair of bows headphones. Yeah, where 625 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: the hell am I? You don't do any editing, You 626 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: just show up, You spew your gums, flap your gums. 627 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: For however long we do this, probably spew garbage, flap gums. 628 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: You spew garbage and you flapped your gums, and then 629 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: leave me to clean up your entire mess and the 630 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: editing process, which is the most difficult part of this 631 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: entire podcast. And so I went to the common man 632 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: and I said, look, I'm tired of listening to make 633 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: spew garbage with these with these bad headphones that I had. 634 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: So he hiked it up with a nice pair of 635 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: Bows headphones. And the audio quality this thing should be 636 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: much approved. Are we getting paid by Bows for this 637 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: or anything? I got a pair of iPhones, So you 638 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: worry about yourself, all right, Well, com man, I'm looking 639 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: to you from my hair everybody else. Thank you so 640 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: much for listening. Make sure you hit it up. 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