WEBVTT - 104: Enemy of the State w/ Liza Weil 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.720 Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondoland Audio in 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:36.040 partnership with iHeartRadio Katie. My son today got his cast off. 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.640 Oh yeah, how does he feel? Is he happy? Well? 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.120 Now he has to be in a brace, but we 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:46.200 have a cast off party this afternoon. He's requested two 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:50.919 friends to be a Pokemon trading company. Were you ever 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:54.200 into Pokemon? Hell no, yeah, I still don't understand it. 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.960 I still didn't even understand what Pokemon is. Boys. Pikachu 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:01.000 is the a cat, is the mouse? What is he? 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:03.680 It's a bunny. I think it's a bunny. I have 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.880 no idea. I literally have no cluthes going on. But 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.560 my son is so into it. And for the first time. Okay, 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:14.840 he's only the cards. He gets our shit ass knockoffs 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.319 that are like five cents because I'm not spending money 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.600 on this show. And some of these cards are like 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.880 five hundred dollars. It's like collecting baseball card, like limited edition, 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.120 you know, Pokemons being around for thirty years or something. 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:27.760 So when he got his cast off, I got him 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:32.760 his first like real it was like sixteen dollars card. 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:35.160 Oh and as big fear is that he's going to 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.959 like still be into this in like ten years and 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:42.600 try to trade these knockoff piece of shit card They're like, kid, 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:48.320 this is this is a fake. Like this is a fake. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.600 You're a fake, You're a phony, you're parents phones. Yo. 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.800 The only time I loved Pikachu is when when Pikachu 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.200 was a fucking happy meal box? Do you remember that? 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.160 Just a few months ago? And all I listen, I 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.760 don't love anything more than I love a good happy meal. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.160 It makes the food taste better. Well, you could either 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.440 have a hamburger or cheeseburger, and then it comes with 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:13.240 small fries, apple slices, or yogurt, and that's pretty much. 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:16.200 I always get the hamburger with the fries. But y'all, 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.680 for a stint, for a little for a period there, 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.920 the Happy Meal boxes were an actual Pikachu and you 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:25.160 could fold the ears up and it looked like That's 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.480 the only time I was interested in Pikachu, the only 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.680 time we were into it. It It is so annoying, but 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.160 he loves it so much, and he was very brave 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.919 and actually surprisingly have you ever had a broken bone? 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.720 Uh in my foot? Yeah? I have? Oh did you 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.520 have to have a cast? Uh? No? You know you 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:43.200 know what in my hand too. Yeah, I had to 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:45.360 have a I had to have a cast. So I 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.000 remember when I was a kid, I broke my leg. 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:48.960 I remembered them taking the cast off and it hurt 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.280 so so so badly, and it was so scary. And 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:54.520 I feel like the thing like touched my skin and 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:58.040 it was like a saw. Now, it's things have come 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.280 so far from when way we were kidding. I have 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.799 this like saw machine that takes off cast now and 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:07.480 kids for in literally under one minute. It tickles their 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.359 skin as it's doing it. I don't know how that's possible. 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:15.160 But and Albi was husterical laughing. Are you serious? Yes, 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.920 he's so ticklish and he's stile laughing and had the 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:19.959 best time of his life. Like he wasn't scared. I 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:21.639 thought he was gonna be like Jesus Christ, this is 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.360 like a loud saw. Meanwhile, back in the day, we're like, 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.880 please don't cut my arm off? Were you taking the 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:31.680 cast off skin? Like I'm terrified. Um, it's not like 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:35.200 that at all. It's come very far. Um. And so 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:40.320 I've had a very active mourning. I tid Freeman, do 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:44.200 you ever hike I have? Yeah, I like hiking Freeman 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.360 is a is a trail up here in a North Hollywood, right, 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.280 what do we end Like, is that considered North Hollywood? Yeah, 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:56.760 it's in it's in Studio City, yeah, And it's a 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.000 a trailhead and it's like a three mile hike. It's 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:00.320 like a mile and a half up into my half 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.760 down and it's really beautiful. And it's very clear right 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.000 now in Los Angeles because we've had rains, which means 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:06.520 the smog has sort of moved out, and you can 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.000 see that there's like snow capped mountains nearby, and it's 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.760 really beautiful and I love it because it I zen out. 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.960 But today when I got there, I was following the 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:19.840 whole time, like seventy five teenage girls on this crash. 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.599 It was awful. You gotta let them go ahead. You 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.599 should have put off to the side and sat down 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.960 for a second. Get ahead. I couldn't get behind, I 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:32.279 couldn't figure out where I fit. And the whole fucking 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:36.360 hike I'm hearing like such annoying shit, and I just 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.040 was like, fuck, is this my fee Like God, damn it, 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:43.760 teenage girls are the fucking worst. Like it was so annoying. Wait, 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:45.880 you didn't have music or anything. You didn't have music 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:47.880 and music in my ear and it made no difference. 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:53.400 It was like like it was just so and so disturbing. 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.200 And if I went too far, because they were all 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.640 in clumps, like their little clicks. It was like seventy 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:04.080 five girls all split up up around you, all around me. 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.479 I was surrounded and I only had a certain amount 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.080 of time. So really, if I had been smart, I 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.440 would have just pulled over for like a long time. 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.800 And really, you didn't have time. I still want caught up. 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.320 I'm a fast fucking hiker. You are. We gotta go 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.840 hiking one day together. I love hiking. I would love it. 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.920 I do too. It's like it's like the only the 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:27.880 only form of working out that I actually enjoy. Yeah, 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.200 Like I just enjoy it. I like look around, I 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:33.920 like thin outdoors. You're listening to Madonna. I listen to podcasts. 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:42.320 I'm listening to Madonna. I'm my iPod, which they don't 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:44.880 even make them anymore. Right, I have to tell you 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:50.159 are the only person on planet Earth that I know 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:54.599 that still uses an iPod. I love my iPod? Is 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:58.000 she here? Oh shit, we're already in it. We're already 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:02.520 laughing because the greatest guest is here, the one and 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:07.240 only lies a while. Hi Liza, Hi, right, Yes you 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:12.960 did it, you crush it. Welcome to the Scandal Rewatch Podcast. 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.159 It's so nice to be here, you guys. I'm so 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:20.160 fit to dig in this with you. Man, you're unpacking 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.960 the toolbox. We're talking about episode one oh four called 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.200 Enemy of the State, which originally aired on April twenty 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:30.680 sixth of twenty twelve, and it was written by Richard E. 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:34.479 Robbins who I don't remember this writer, Katie, And it 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.880 was directed by Michael Cattleman, and I don't remember that director. 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:44.120 Gar guest starring Liza Wild, Amanda Tanner, Brendan Hines is Gidey, 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.360 and Wallace Bellamy Young his first Lady, Mellie Grant, Dan 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:51.480 Bucatinsky as James Novak, Joshua Molina as David Rosen, Matt 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:55.760 Lesher is Billy Chambers, Jose Zuniga as Hened, Benicio Flores, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:07:00.200 Valerie Cruz is Carolina Flordes, leland Orcer as Sanders Black, 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.040 and Kate McGregor stewart as Mary. And just to take 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.680 you guys, scandal pace through the synopsis like we do. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.359 When a dictator shows up at the OPA office pleading 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.440 for help to find his missing wife and children, Olivia 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.080 faces a moral dilemma on taking the case. Then, when 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.800 the truth comes out about the dictators missing family, the 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.640 entire team faces an even more difficult situation. Olivia and 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:23.000 Cyrus navigate the Amanda Tanner case. And who better to 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.840 have on the Scandal Rewatch podcast than the one and 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:30.880 only Amanda fucking Tanner? Yeah? Yo, lines up? How did 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:34.280 this part? Like? Did you guests are on all the 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.560 other great like all the other shandaland shows? I mean, 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.440 obviously you and Paul were husband wife. You knew Shanna 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.679 that way? How did you get Amanda Tanna? Okay? Well, 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.360 I mean I think we're gonna get We're just gonna 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:48.160 get right into it. I had done an episode of 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.480 Private Practice, and I think I did an episode of 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:56.240 Grades Anatomy. I went in for Scandal and read for 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:03.200 Quinn and Abby. What I didn't know that shit that either? Yeah, 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:06.160 But the weird thing was is that I read for 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.720 Quinn and then they um found you, which is like 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:17.440 Chef's Kiss. They had me come in right into a 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:21.920 test for Abby and I like had a complete psychotic 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:25.320 break in the audition room. It really stands as one 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.720 of the worst auditions experiences of my life. I was 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.640 so freaked out. I was like, I don't know, I 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.360 don't I don't know who this Abbey Willen person is. 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:36.080 I don't feel like connected to it. And they kept 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.360 insisting that I come right into a test, and I 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:39.959 was like, Linda, can I just come to your office 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.440 and like read this through? Like I don't know what 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:47.320 I'm doing. And I left my body in the audition 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:51.160 room and like was watching myself and I started doing 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.600 the anxiety thing when you're like narrating everything that's going 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:59.200 through your head and you're out loud. Ye so um 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:03.160 real Arlie, real, real bad you? Were you crying? Were 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:07.040 you hyperventilating? Was your heart racing? I remember like turning 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.680 away from them and like facing a corner of the 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.440 audition room and just sort of like touching the wall, 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.760 like trying to like bring my bring myself back to 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:23.760 some ground yourself. Yeah. So it was really humiliating and embarrassing. 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.679 They were so lovely, however, I think that they saw 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:36.200 a little bit of like an interesting, unhinged perfect Oh 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.160 my god, which is like you know, I mean, it's 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.560 one of the sort of all time great like switcherus 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:46.840 of it working out in like a really bizarre, beautiful 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:51.560 way that they could see past what I considered like 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.120 a huge sort of weakness and failure and it was 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.800 just like, no, just channel that into this other thing here. 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.160 Here you go. A lot of actors, I know, like 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:04.760 literally take beta blockers, like oh, they take like they 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.880 actually take like beta blocker, which is far less than 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.000 like um Araz of Pamm or an ad a Van 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:14.840 or something, because because they're going to have a full 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:18.240 bone anxiety. This is our lives as actors. Like that 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.320 shit happens for me. How it manifests for me is 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.160 my hand shake and I'll be holding sides. So now 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:26.559 I got a tip from another actor, Gary Perez, my 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.480 my buddy, and he was like, just bring a heavy, 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:30.840 heavy book and hold the sides on top of that 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.040 book and it sort of gives weight to your hand. 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.160 Because I sometimes I get so nervous that my hands 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.520 are shaking and then all I'm thinking about they're looking 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.520 at my shaking hands and my shaking Baby, I've had 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:48.960 fucking tongue rock by the way, like that's happened to 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:52.000 me before on like like a live talk show. And 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.240 then some days you feel amazing like a fucking king 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.040 and a queen right in the room and you're like 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.720 the most confident and chill. Yeah, but you just mis 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.480 chasing it. And then yes, I think why we keep 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.480 doing it is to like chase that that gray zone 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:14.240 right like and it's so rare, so trippy. Well without yeah, 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.720 I also I'm a firm believer that yeah, without Amanda Tanner, 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.040 like I needed to do Amanda Tanner, but I could 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:23.520 have never done Bonnie when her Bottom without being Amanda First. 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:27.280 I think it definitely like opened a door to like 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:33.240 the dark weirdness that so I was like, this is 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:37.120 my comeback story, guys, all right, like I am gonna 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.720 I gotta crush this and I and it felt really good. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.920 But mostly I think because I was like, I didn't 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:49.760 get weird and have a meltdown. This is a triumph. 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.719 I did it. When you booked Amanda Tanner, did you 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:56.800 know that she was going to die? Did you know mine? 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:02.960 Did you know what it could be? So? Um, I 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:04.600 don't think I knew any of it. I think I 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.720 gradually heard that it was going to turn into like 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.720 a little bit of an arc and be like five 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.920 or six episodes. But I didn't know anything. I mean, 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:16.400 and you guys, because I'm so curious about your experience 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.240 going back and watching this as well. But I'm realizing 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.400 now that it was such a primer for me in 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:26.760 terms of uh, sort of the the shandaland staple of 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:30.760 really like going for a fucking ride because you wouldn't 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.240 know anything. You don't know anything as actors. You didn't 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.360 know the Quinn background. You didn't know the background of 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.520 any of these Oh yeah, so it just it really 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:42.520 is like a car pulling up in front of your 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.400 house being like come on, get in. You're like, where 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.880 are we going, and they're like it doesn't matter, just yeah, 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:53.040 you trust it. Yeah you trust again. First some actors 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.560 it's like wildly unsettling and they don't like it, and 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.720 they're sort of used to like sitting down with the 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.480 showrunner at the beginning of season and hearing what their 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.160 whole characters arc is going to be in with the 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.960 writer's room has planned for them and all of that 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:09.320 in Shanda Universe, which tell me if it was was 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.960 it the same for how to get with for Murder too. Yes, yeah, 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.320 oh yeah, so you were not told a fucking thing. 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.600 We showed the table read. You're not you don't ask questions, 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:19.360 you don't know where your character is going. I think 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.240 it's because they don't know really where your character right, 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.040 They're kind of waiting to see what you do and 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.920 what develops and like build off of that true what 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:34.160 I found complete freedom in it. Yeah, it becomes I 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:37.440 think can very liberating. There is like a you know, 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:41.040 a wonky like adjustment period because I think you also 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:45.600 just like you're you're up against so many other things. 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:49.000 It's really hard to be good on TV, you know, 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:53.280 like I'm fast paced, like you're just up against so much. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:57.320 But there is a there is a a liberation I 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:59.120 think once you're like, I don't know what's going to 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.360 happen to me tomorrow in life, I don't know what 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.800 you know, Like, yeah, so it I think it can 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:09.800 be really fun and beautiful, but it's scary. Yeah, it's scary. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.439 I like the part of TV two of doing an 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.880 episodic like like Scandal or Murderer, that you you know, 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.679 you don't have time to stress out or get too 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:23.160 nervous about something because the shooting pace is so freaking 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.720 fast and just going, going, going, Yeah, you don't have 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:29.920 time to be like I'm gonna stress and overthink this monologue. 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:31.760 You don't have time for that shit. You just gotta go, go, 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.760 go and keep doing it. And I guess that's that's 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:35.640 kind of a good thing, because you know, with my 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:40.080 crazy brain, my anxious brain, Yeah, was Amanda Tanner your 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.840 like big job after Gilmore I mean, I know you 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:44.520 worked a ton, but like, was it your first life? 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:48.240 Did you say Gilmore Girls? Wait a minute, Garmo love Gilmour. 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.840 Garmo fucking loves gilmar Girls. When we had Shanna on 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.080 the podcast for episode one, he was like, Seana, you 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.880 watched Gilmore Girls. And Seana was like no, and Garmos 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.960 like almost died. I was I almost. I almost turned 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.080 off my camera and like left the podcast. Now, No, 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:08.200 because because Liza, because she cast you, she cast the 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:12.760 lovely actress who played Lane on Gilmore Girls. Yes, and 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:16.160 then of course Hollis Doyle who was Greg Henry also 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.240 on Gilmore Girls. Like all these like wonderful people that 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.440 were on Gilmore Girls, and oh man, I always assumed 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.520 that she did watch it, but I that's news to 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:26.720 me that she did. She never saw it, which is 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.520 so crazy because when I go back and I think 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.960 about like the fast paced talking shows, it's like West Wing, 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.960 Gilmore Girls, Scandal, Like there's not so many shows where 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:40.200 like the Secret Sauce one of them in the recipe 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.280 is speaking as fast as humanly fucking possible. Yes, one 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:47.080 hundred percent. I mean I Gilmore Girls ended, I got married, 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.960 and then I was having like a really hard time 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.080 going back into audition rooms. I feel like the whole 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.480 time I was on Gilmore Girls, I wasn't really getting 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.240 out for other things, so like the audition muscle was 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:04.320 like I had no idea like and again just a 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:08.040 lot of panic attacks and a lot of anxiety, just 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.280 a lot of straight up anxiety because yeah, so I 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:14.640 didn't work for for like three years, I think after 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:18.680 Gilmore Girls, and then oh well I had my daughter, 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:22.360 so yeah, Amanda Tanner was like the first job back 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.520 after having a baby and sort of all of it, 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.360 and I was freaked out. I was really really nervous 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:32.120 because you guys were you know, you got us with 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:36.200 guys who were coming to play. We were not. You were. 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:37.920 I want to I want we wanted to talk about 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:43.400 this episode, but literally I will never forget that scene 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:49.040 in the pilot with you and the dog and Carrie 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:54.760 Washington and her having that monologue about you better get 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.560 out of town and here's all the things she's going 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:58.320 to do to you if you don't, and where'd you 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:02.080 get that dog? And you just have to literally sob 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.520 for like ever take it? Yeah, I mean, do you 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:09.040 remember that day and how the generous thing that Carrie 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.400 did of I remember, but please tell okay because it's 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:15.160 so it was you know, it was there was a 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.119 big build up for that scene and like it was 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:22.719 a long process, and I was like, I think I 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:27.840 had kind of blown my wad. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.760 And she did not as we say, we called for 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.320 tear stick, which I did all the time. Liza never 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:38.600 did that. Well, I think my moment, But honestly, it 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.199 was again like the motivation, like the motivation for crying 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.840 was out of like I am going to like whiff this, 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:48.600 like I this is I'm going to fail publicly. So 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.560 it was all just like you know, you better fucking 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:57.040 do this. Um. But then I remember having to break 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.480 for lunch and then before they part Ridge and I 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.800 was like, oh no, no, no, no, please please, let's 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:05.879 not break for lunch. And then just like sitting in 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:10.000 the honeywagon like rocking back and forth, like trying to starving, 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.400 starving because you know you're not going to eat. Yeah. 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.760 But Harry did like the thing for my coverage where 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:19.200 she just it just wasn't there, and she went off 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:23.879 script and sort of like added some personal stuff that 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:26.119 would sort of get a response out of me. She 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:29.280 knew that, you know, we were starting to try to 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:31.480 like find child care for our daughter and it was 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:33.800 so stressful, and it was like I was leaving her 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:35.880 alone for the first time, and she put she kind 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:42.520 of like sprinkled into the yeah, and and it just 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:47.119 saved my ass, man, And I was so grateful for 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:51.400 her to her for that. Uh well, let's stricken plays man, 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:56.359 because that scene. I'm convinced like that scene is probably 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:58.359 why we even like got to pick up for the 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:03.240 second season. Oh stop, Yeah, that's one of those iconic 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.399 fucking scenes where we know who Olivia Pope really is. 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:09.879 We know like what length she's willing to go for 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:13.600 her for her love for the president. We see that 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:15.800 she doesn't give a fuck that this girl is just 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:18.200 like a regular girl who was in the fucking wrong 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.800 place at the wrong time, although we kind of learned 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:24.320 that that's not who Amanda Tana. Yeah, and that scene 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.240 they use that they use that scene and a lot 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.800 of promos too, like that's the scene that when the 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:32.560 show first started sort of being publicized, right, Yeah, it's 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:36.240 iconic and you were phenomenal and however you got there, 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.720 like I just remember it was forever. That scene was 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.320 first of all outside, which is impossible. They can't like 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.480 really control lots of things that needed to be controlled. 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:49.959 He did shoot it, like wides and masters and Carrie's 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.639 coverage eight billion times for hours before we turned it 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:56.200 around on Liza. So by the time we turned around 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.320 on Liza, she's like, I can't hear this. Like when 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:01.560 I hear this doesn't have any effect on me anymore. 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:05.440 I've heard it one fucking thousand times. Yeah, and so 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.840 for Carrie, Yeah, she would. She used to do that 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:09.080 to me too. I don't know if she ever do 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:10.960 that to you Garmo too, But sometimes she'd just save 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.720 your ass and she would be like sprinkling just a 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.679 little something that would make me feel a different sound, different, 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:19.560 wake up, like, let me have an She didn't give 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:23.400 me shit. She barely remembered her lines when they were 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:30.680 doing my coverage. I'm kidding. She's great. Now. In this episode, 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:37.159 we have so many firsts it's insane, Like, yes, we 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:40.320 have so many first First we have like Carrie Washington 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:44.159 speaking Spanish, which she knows how to speak Spanish, right, Guermo, 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:46.800 because the case of the week is this, yes, this 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:53.440 dictator from yeah, Benicio Florides. I don't remember where he's from, 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:56.040 but like he comes in and needs help because his 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:59.200 children are and wife are missing. And Olivia speaks. Why 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:01.280 does Olivia I mean, excuse me, why does Kerry Washing 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:03.960 know how to speak Spanish fluently? Know how to do 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:11.000 everything fluently? Oh my god, she's really smart, right and 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:15.440 she knows probably all the things. Yeah, we have Amanda 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:18.840 wants to revisit the five minute like all you want, 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:22.960 like all you want for your end game. Olivia. Pope 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.639 is saying to you like okay, great, like what do 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:29.320 you want, and You're like, I want, oh the god, 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:34.240 you fucking kill you want fucking five minutes with the president. 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:36.720 Five minutes with the president. Yeah, Oh that scene is 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:38.880 so good. This way you say I want them all 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:42.720 to burn for this? Yes, yes it is, Yes it is. 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:47.800 That would be so hard to do for so many 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.080 people and do well. You guys are really nice, man, 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:53.960 I mean, because I think it could be kind of melodramatic, 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:58.359 you know what I mean. Yeah, we'll be right back. Guys. 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:06.040 Did you rewatch this episode Liza? And it's okay if 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:09.840 you didn't. We we I did. Was it nice being 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:12.960 sort of separated, like having the time from you know, 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:15.200 because I always talk about how we were so close 0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:17.639 to the material and the show when we were shooting it, 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:19.560 so it was hard to be really be like, oh, 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:21.959 this is a great show because I would remember stupid 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:23.760 shit I didn't like that I did or whatever. But 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:27.160 now having that time, I'm like, it's such a great show. 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:29.520 It's such a great show. I mean I started, I 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:32.680 like burned through like six episodes, like I couldn't stop 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:35.719 watching it, Like I had the intention of just watching 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.840 until episode four, and then now I'm like fully in 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:41.880 it again. It's and it's just it's such a it's 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:46.560 such a delight. Yeah. How did you prepare for scenes 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:48.480 like like the burn for this? Were you working with 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:51.720 anybody at the time, or were you just like, I like, 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:54.720 how what was your like prep? Yeah? I was not 0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:57.560 working with anybody at the time. I mean I think 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:02.080 I was just doing problem belief and like not great 0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:12.040 unhealthy prep of like just self hatred and um. But again, 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:17.680 I think so much of of my fuel was just 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:22.560