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Speaker 1: Advice shooter.

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Speaker 2: It's time. Hell no, no, no, Welcome to the naughty

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Speaker 2: but nice sham, your hestim shooter. And it is Monday,

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Speaker 2: which means our dear friend Garrett Vogel joins us. Hey, Garrett,

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Speaker 2: are you there? Hey, babes, how are you babes?

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Speaker 3: You know it is it is Halloween week here in

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Speaker 3: uh in the world, and uh you know, I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: We got we got some ghouls and goblins and some candy.

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Speaker 1: What's your favorite candor, op shooter.

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Speaker 2: I like these things called Rece's pieces.

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Speaker 3: Is that Oh, you said it very correctly. That's the

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Speaker 3: the the correct pronunciation of it. And and with with

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Speaker 3: the British accent, it's easily said to say Rece's pieces.

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Speaker 1: But not the case. Not the case.

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Speaker 2: I already discovered them quite recently and I was quite

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Speaker 2: addicted to them. But happy halleweo, and everybody be safe,

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Speaker 2: have a wonderful, wonderful time. I'm flying off to London tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: so I'm gonna be doing shows from the UK. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna get in a Tuesday show tomorrow morning and then

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Speaker 2: maybe Donnie with the time difference, and then Thursday Friday

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Speaker 2: I'll do solo shows and I shall be back the

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Speaker 2: following week. Okay, let's jump into our show. What time

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Speaker 2: is it? My Friends? And is tea time? So big

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Speaker 2: news over the weekend. Katy Perry and just In Tradu Trudeau.

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Speaker 1: I think it's true, Dough, Is it true Trudeau?

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Speaker 2: True Trudeau? Their new romance is now official. They were

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Speaker 2: spotted hand in hand in Paris celebrating her forty first

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Speaker 2: birthday in the City of Love. They were really cute together.

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Speaker 2: They left this legendary crazy horse cabaret, so they went

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Speaker 2: to see a cabaret show. They left holding hands. They

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Speaker 2: knew the paparazzi at the photographers were outside, and they're

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Speaker 2: sick of hiding it. Now we knew about it, We've

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Speaker 2: seen them kissing on it. Now they are official. A

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Speaker 2: little bit of exclusive reporting here. Do you want to

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Speaker 2: know how they got together? They seemed such an unlikely pair.

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Speaker 2: Lauren Sanchez, I'm told Jeff Bezon says, wife hooks them up.

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Speaker 2: If you remember that, that's what she does, a matchmaker, matchmaker,

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Speaker 2: so reasoningly, if you remember, Katie was on Lauren's rocket,

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Speaker 2: So they became really really good friends when they went

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Speaker 2: to space for what was it ten seconds together? And

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Speaker 2: because of her money, her husband's money, she knows Prime Minister,

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Speaker 2: she knows world leaders, and so it was all her

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Speaker 2: address book. I was trying to figure out, Katie has

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Speaker 2: an amazing life, she has an amazing address book. But

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Speaker 2: where's the connections? Where can I connect the dots between

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Speaker 2: Justine and Katie. I'm told it was the Sanchezes Bezoses,

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Speaker 2: who are pretty good friends to have as matchmakers.

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Speaker 3: I guess I wonder how it is like just in

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Speaker 3: that celebrity world. Like you know, when when you and

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Speaker 3: I we were like, oh, we have a friend, they

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Speaker 2: It happens a lot. It does happen a lot. That's

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Speaker 2: why celebrities hook up with other celebrities. And I do

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Speaker 2: think it's interesting how do you find somebody? The world

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Speaker 2: has changed so much since when we were dating, Garrett,

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Speaker 2: you and me now are no longer stumbling into bars

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Speaker 2: and meeting cute people. I think it's now all online.

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Speaker 3: A lot of money stumbling into bars, which is stumbling

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Speaker 2: I think that my younger friends they all meet on apps,

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Speaker 2: on dating sites, some maybe even little bit naughtier sites

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Speaker 2: most people are going to meet Garrett.

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Speaker 1: No, you need a billionaire friend, you.

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Speaker 2: Need a billionaire friend, you need you know, you do

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Speaker 2: meet people in the cirtle that you that you are

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Speaker 2: part of. And so I met Bruce because I got

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Speaker 3: If you were sure, I could not imagine.

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Speaker 2: Ice creams vanilla cho That's how I met Bruce, and

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Speaker 2: I hear that's how they hooked up. But nevertheless, it's

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Speaker 2: cute to see them together. I'm glad. The guessing is over.

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Speaker 2: Were they on? Were they off? There?

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Speaker 1: Do you think Tom Brady was in the running because

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Speaker 2: She's got his number two? Can you imagine her address book?

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Speaker 3: Well, just the fact that that Lauren Sanchez literally could

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Speaker 3: celebrity go, Katie, what do you guarantee she did this?

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Speaker 3: Because she got close your eyes, close your eyes and stop,

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Speaker 3: Justin Trudeau.

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Speaker 1: She could have been on Tom Brady's.

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Speaker 2: The address I've nosed to the address book of some

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Speaker 2: I like that they're a couple, which brings us to

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Speaker 2: our pole question of the day. Do you like these

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Speaker 2: two as a couple? Justin and Katy Perry official with

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Speaker 2: their new romance. Do you like them as a couple?

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Speaker 2: They're very good looking together. The picture of them looks

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Speaker 2: really really great. He's got that power, that political sort

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Speaker 2: what do you think, Naughtie's Do you like these two

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Speaker 2: Hey Garrett, what are you working on?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, people are lining up in case they

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Speaker 3: per se, But apparently Kim Kardashian has a list of

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Speaker 3: modern day Elwood's Reese Witherspoon representing you in court.

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Speaker 1: You know, so she passed, now she won't be able.

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Speaker 2: To She hasn't officially passed it a little bit here,

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Speaker 2: she took the test, but we don't know the results

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Speaker 3: Well, correct, But if people are lining up, I have

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Speaker 2: Telling everybody that she's gonna be a lawyer in two weeks.

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Speaker 2: I love the confidence. I think this is very important

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Speaker 2: You've got two more weeks. November seventh is when she

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Speaker 2: finds out. I'm sure she has. She's She's really worked

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Speaker 2: hard at this, Kim. It's easy to dismiss her behind

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Speaker 1: She actually done some great stuff.

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Speaker 2: She did well.

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Speaker 3: She's been an advocate, and she's helped a prison reform

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Speaker 1: So she is a very.

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Speaker 3: Good advocate, and it would be I would love to

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Speaker 3: we see her as the business woman, we see her

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Speaker 3: Would I would love to see how she works in court,

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Speaker 2: Pa more serious than people think. Whenever I've met Kim.

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Speaker 2: She's not the goofy Kim you see on reality TV.

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Speaker 2: That's definitely part of her personality, but she's actually quite

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Speaker 2: So this is in her DNA. She knows how to

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Speaker 2: she's much more serious than what people think. Jessica Simpson

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Speaker 2: deeply serious. And you don't get to run a billion

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Speaker 2: is extraordinary. Her next her next chapter a lawyer, and

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Speaker 2: Johnny Depp is back with the Pirates. So it hasn't

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Speaker 2: Jack Sparrow is sailing back into our lives. It has

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Speaker 2: Johnny has read the new script and loved it. Disney

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Speaker 2: this in life, if you step away for a moment,

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Speaker 2: you can come back. I think America is very very forgiving.

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Speaker 2: They do like to give people second chances and someone

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Speaker 3: And I think Disney needs this because they've been kind

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Speaker 3: someone on the quote unquote normal side that's a pirate

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Speaker 3: that kind of is mystical and magical, but still doesn't

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Speaker 2: And so why we got bored of those moves for

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Speaker 2: a minute.

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Speaker 1: It was over saturation, over saturated.

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Speaker 2: Iron Man and then the Avengers and then another one

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Speaker 2: and Captain America.

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Speaker 3: If Captain Jack Sparrow shows up in the next Avengers movie,

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Speaker 3: we will have a problem.

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Speaker 2: His special power is how norble how actually una fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he has a super character.

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Speaker 2: He falls over, he's clumsy, he's campy, and he is back. Okay,

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Speaker 2: moving along, there's trouble within the Jackson family. You'd think

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Speaker 2: bringing in so much money. But no they're not.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, Michael's daughter, Paris Jackson, has launched a

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