WEBVTT - Tech in the Post Apocalyptic World (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Technology text from dot com You welcome to text to

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<v Speaker 1>buy job in Strickland. And with me once again is

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<v Speaker 1>Joe McCormick. Hello everyone, Joe, you and I have had

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<v Speaker 1>a loue long conversation about the post apocalyptic state of

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<v Speaker 1>affairs and how that deals with technology. So long in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that we suddenly discovered we've been walking through the desert

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<v Speaker 1>looking for gasoline for five hours and that horse still

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<v Speaker 1>has no name. So we want to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>where we left off with our post apocalyptic discussion. We

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<v Speaker 1>will conclude this episode with our talk of our favorite

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<v Speaker 1>post apocalyptic stories and settings, So enjoy. Okay, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about our nuclear facilities, because I know I have at

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<v Speaker 1>least heard or read that, like a nuke, your reactor

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<v Speaker 1>goes for a long time without needing refuel. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>more than a year. Yeah. So, I mean, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>those rods in there, they're doing their things. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to replace them. But like the other plants, this

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<v Speaker 1>might just be an issue of maintenance and monitoring. Yeah. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The I was reading the reports from or really the

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<v Speaker 1>estimations from someone who had worked in power plants, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had talked to various power plant engineers of different

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<v Speaker 1>types of plants to get their estimations. And when they said,

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<v Speaker 1>when I talk to the nuclear guys, they said, are

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<v Speaker 1>you crazy, because it was like, look, I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to answer a question about zombie outbreaks. I'm not crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And they said, well, maybe if everything went well, if

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<v Speaker 1>there were none of these little same thing, like, if

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<v Speaker 1>there were none of these alerts that pop up that

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<v Speaker 1>would necessitate a shutdown, you might go as long as

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<v Speaker 1>a week. And they're they're just looking at the probability

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<v Speaker 1>of one of these smaller events that would lead to

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<v Speaker 1>an automatic shutdown occurring. I said, you know, if a

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<v Speaker 1>human is there to deal with whatever the issue is,

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<v Speaker 1>you could go for more than a year without having

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about refueling. And after that it would be

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<v Speaker 1>tricky depending upon how many people are around, because it

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<v Speaker 1>requires a lot of special equipment to refuel a nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>power plant. But up to that point, you could supply

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<v Speaker 1>power for a year. But if there's no one there

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<v Speaker 1>to monitor it, probably maybe a week would be about

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you could expect before something leads to

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<v Speaker 1>an automatic shutdown. So the best one so far, But

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<v Speaker 1>then we have the the best one of all if

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<v Speaker 1>you are getting your power from a hydroelectric plant, assuming

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<v Speaker 1>nothing's gone wrong with the dam, then you are in

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<v Speaker 1>great shape. Fuel. Yeah, your your energy is coming from

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<v Speaker 1>water flowing through those turbines. As long as nothing mechanical

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<v Speaker 1>is going wrong with that, you could probably get power

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<v Speaker 1>for weeks or maybe even a month without any interruption. Yeah. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when would you have to have major maintenance intervention? I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it would maybe if the if the water flow

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<v Speaker 1>changed dramatically, if there was flooding and you needed to

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<v Speaker 1>change the levels of the floodgates or something. There could

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<v Speaker 1>be that, or it could even be through the transmission

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<v Speaker 1>of power, not even the generation, but just the transmission lines.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there are a lot of different parts that are

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<v Speaker 1>that are involved in this and many different power plants.

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<v Speaker 1>Like typically they would have engineers come in and step

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<v Speaker 1>up or step down the amount of power being put

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<v Speaker 1>out due to demand, Like the grid typically is making

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<v Speaker 1>just as much electricity as the demand warrants, Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>that's it, like as much as we need, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>the power grid is providing. In this situation, you no

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<v Speaker 1>longer have someone there to make sure that that's what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So so problems could result ultimately from that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are actually a couple of different post apocalyptic movies

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<v Speaker 1>and fictional scenarios I can think of where the main

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<v Speaker 1>goal certain characters had was getting hydroelectric plants back up

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<v Speaker 1>and running. Yeah, I'm not surprised. I mean that to

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<v Speaker 1>me would be well again, it's it's the one where

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you have the mechanical knowledge of how

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<v Speaker 1>to do repairs and maintenance on the system, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>just general knowledge of how the transmission system works, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the most reliable, right, Like it's it's more reliable than

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<v Speaker 1>solar or wind because the water is always going to

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<v Speaker 1>flow unless something really major changes the nature of the area,

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<v Speaker 1>in which case you probably have more things to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about than your electricity. Um uh. But otherwise, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine that would be a top priority. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>simplest of all the things because you think of things

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<v Speaker 1>like coal. You have to mind the coal. So even

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<v Speaker 1>if you even if you had people to keep moving

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<v Speaker 1>coal into the the power plant, most coal firing plants

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<v Speaker 1>have enough coal on hand for sixty to seventy days

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<v Speaker 1>of power. So after that sixty seventy days, even if

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<v Speaker 1>you had the people there to look after it. You

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<v Speaker 1>would have to then go and mind more coal. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to get your hands on more coal to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the coal plant going. So hydro electric makes way more

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<v Speaker 1>sense in that case. Yeah, I just trying to think

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<v Speaker 1>what different types of alternative or imagined power plants would

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<v Speaker 1>be the most resilient to Earth disasters, you know, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's zombies, nuclear bombs, nuclear zombies, asteroid impact, cyber attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>And the one idea I came up with it was

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<v Speaker 1>most interesting to me at least, though perhaps wrong, is

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<v Speaker 1>orbital solar all right, so let me take a guess

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<v Speaker 1>what you mean. And I'm literally guessing because I have

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<v Speaker 1>not I have not looked at these parts of the notes.

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<v Speaker 1>You added this while I was recording a different episode.

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<v Speaker 1>So this would be a network of solar power capturing

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<v Speaker 1>satellites that would then use a means like a microwave

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<v Speaker 1>beam to beam energy down to the surface of the planet,

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<v Speaker 1>which then would be distributed through a power grid. That's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right. So you you've got solar farms, except you're

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<v Speaker 1>moving the solar farm itself from the surface of the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth to orbit, and that has some pretty obvious advantages.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Number one, you're not dealing with cloud cover

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<v Speaker 1>intercepting that that precious solar energy you need. The receivers

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<v Speaker 1>are out there in space, so they're always getting sunlight. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have night time because at geosynchronous orbit, these

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<v Speaker 1>things will almost never be blocked from the Sun. They

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<v Speaker 1>might pass, you know, in the shadow of the Earth

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<v Speaker 1>in very rare cases, they don't spend much time in it.

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<v Speaker 1>So these are giant solar panels in space that can

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<v Speaker 1>receive almost uninterrupted sunlight. They convert the sunlight into d

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<v Speaker 1>C electricity, which would then be converted into some type

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<v Speaker 1>of radiation that could be sent via a targeted beam

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<v Speaker 1>down to receiving stations on Earth. And the two major

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<v Speaker 1>candidates for the beam radiation are lasers and microwaves, and

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<v Speaker 1>microwaves are really where it's at today, So these solar

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<v Speaker 1>power satellites are usually sps s in the industry. LINGO

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<v Speaker 1>would be a really daunting project to create because they

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<v Speaker 1>have to be absolutely huge and you need a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of them to really cut into Earth's energy demands. And

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<v Speaker 1>there was a former Department of Energy NASA joint research

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<v Speaker 1>project from the nineteen seventies that envisioned a fleet of

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<v Speaker 1>sixty satellites, each one about fifty five square kilometers in

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<v Speaker 1>photovoltaic surface area uh together all generating about three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>gigawatts of electricity okay um. So then of course there's

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<v Speaker 1>the question of the wireless energy transmission, which has been

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<v Speaker 1>a problem historically, but we're getting better at. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>just in the past few years there have been some

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<v Speaker 1>projects that are that are making strides in this. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I just read an interesting article in the I tri

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<v Speaker 1>Police Spectrum from last year about Jackson that the Japanese

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<v Speaker 1>Space Agency's plans two possibly look into creating an orbital

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<v Speaker 1>solar farm, and they're doing preliminary research on that, like

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<v Speaker 1>on these wireless energy transmissions, and so these days it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like most of the people who are still interested

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<v Speaker 1>in sps are talking about microwaves rather than lasers. And

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<v Speaker 1>so this would be a microwave frequency transmission from the

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<v Speaker 1>satellites to the Earth, and then the receivers on the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth would be what things that are called rectifying antennas,

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<v Speaker 1>their antennas that receive the microwaves and then convert them

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<v Speaker 1>into electricity. The microwaves are generally considered better than lasers

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<v Speaker 1>for beaming the energy to Earth because lasers in the

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<v Speaker 1>visible spectrum or wherever they would be, are more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to be intercepted by cloudcover, and the microwaves are much

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<v Speaker 1>more resilient to penetrating the atmosphere. Apparently low frequency microwaves,

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<v Speaker 1>so the really long wavelengths are the best at penetrating

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<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere. They're they're much better, but they of course

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<v Speaker 1>come with the problem that you need really big antenna's. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>your antenna's size is uh is reliant upon the length

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<v Speaker 1>of the wave, the wavelength of whatever you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>pick up. So I couldn't exactly figure out how well

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<v Speaker 1>the space based you know, life root of the microwave

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<v Speaker 1>beam would survive cloud cover that was based on particulate

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<v Speaker 1>matter instead of water vapor, because I was trying to imagine, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say there's an asteroid impact, supervolcano eruption, or nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>bombs create nuclear winter, whatever it is that puts ash

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<v Speaker 1>dust particles into the atmosphere and blocks the sun. Would

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<v Speaker 1>the microwaves from space be able to penetrate that any

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<v Speaker 1>better than the sunlight itself would just get to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>solar panels on your roof or in the desert, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the answer to that. Yeah, that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things that probably doesn't come up in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the white papers on the subject. So in

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<v Speaker 1>the case of nuclear winter, this would still provide power.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's just one interesting possibility of sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like outsourcing our our energy production needs away from the

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<v Speaker 1>ground in places where an earth based catastrophe might not

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<v Speaker 1>touch them. Though they're like I said, some scenarios that

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<v Speaker 1>might interrupt power from those sources or might not. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to tell. I mean, again, it all depends upon

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<v Speaker 1>the nature of the disaster, right, And of course you

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<v Speaker 1>can still imagine that some kind of space weather event

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<v Speaker 1>could could very well fry those satellites. Sure, yeah, solar

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<v Speaker 1>flare might might end up disrupting that, or it could

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<v Speaker 1>be something on the ground ends up frying the transmission infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 1>not not necessarily the receiving antenna, but just the means

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<v Speaker 1>of getting electricity from the receiver site to the places

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<v Speaker 1>where it's needed. If that's fried, then you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>could still be generating electricity, but you can't get it

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<v Speaker 1>to where it needs to go. In other words, if

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<v Speaker 1>the power lines themselves are damaged as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the catastrophe was. Then you're really you're still stuck.

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<v Speaker 1>And and some of the things that would come out

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<v Speaker 1>of this, I mean they're really pretty grim, like even

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<v Speaker 1>the immediate effects. And this is the people who have

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<v Speaker 1>gone through blackouts, Uh can talk about the these There

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<v Speaker 1>was a big one in UM two thousand three that

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<v Speaker 1>had people trapped on subways, had people trapped in elevators.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you couldn't things that relied upon electricity for

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<v Speaker 1>operation stopped, and then you know, you could be in

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<v Speaker 1>a place like an elevator where you also no longer

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<v Speaker 1>have climate control. Yeah, imagine getting stuck in one of

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<v Speaker 1>the elevators here during this month, like Atlanta has been

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly hot and humid this month. So you're stuck in

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<v Speaker 1>an elevator. Let's say there's like seven other people in

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<v Speaker 1>there with you. The elevator stops, climate control stops. After

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<v Speaker 1>an hour or two, you know, you are already with

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of other people crammed in this small space

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna get intolerably hot. Um. And that I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they can get to a point, depending upon where you are,

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<v Speaker 1>I could get to a you know a point that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's very dangerous, particularly for people who are already in

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<v Speaker 1>poor health. Uh, subways similar problem. You know, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily want to immediately evacuate the train if it's a

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<v Speaker 1>temporary power problem. Then once that comes back online, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got that third rail that would be of deadly to

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<v Speaker 1>come into contact with it. So it's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things that you definitely need an evacuation plan. Uh. I've

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<v Speaker 1>read that if you had a blackout that lasted longer

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<v Speaker 1>than a few days, like a true blackout that lasted

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<v Speaker 1>longer than a few days in New York City, then

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<v Speaker 1>the many of the subways would end up having flooding

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<v Speaker 1>issues because they no longer would have some pumps that

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<v Speaker 1>would pump water out. Yeah, I've read the same thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to be pumped out every single day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's a day that's there's no rain, they

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<v Speaker 1>still have to be pumped out. So then you you

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<v Speaker 1>have infrastructure problems that once the power comes online, that

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<v Speaker 1>electricity going through the areas that have water that can

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<v Speaker 1>actually end up causing debreed to catch on fire. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you got fire on the tracks as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's lots of issues that roll out just from

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<v Speaker 1>losing power. That sounds like a great like folk album title,

0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Fire on the Tracks, Fire on the Track, it's the

0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.240
<v Speaker 1>lost Johnny Cash album. Uh. Also, you got you have

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<v Speaker 1>issues with traffic because if all the traffic signals are out,

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<v Speaker 1>then there's no way to regulate traffic. Yeah, Joe, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you've driven in Atlanta after there's been power outages

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<v Speaker 1>where Yeah, how how lovely is it to come up

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<v Speaker 1>to one of those intersections? Well? Are now? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the intersections that have the flashing lights? Let's

0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.600
<v Speaker 1>or it's just blank, It's just blank. I've come on

0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:49.040
<v Speaker 1>that too. It's not fun. People are eager for their turn. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there there are times where like it's odd. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if this is the case in lots of different cities,

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<v Speaker 1>but in Atlanta, Uh, people either treat everything like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a four way stop, even if it's a blinking yellow light,

0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:04.840
<v Speaker 1>which means proceeded with caution, not stop. Um. But people

0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:06.439
<v Speaker 1>will treat everything like it's a more y stop or

0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.400
<v Speaker 1>do they treat like nothing is a more rated up?

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<v Speaker 1>And either way it's not good. And just imagine like

0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:16.040
<v Speaker 1>this is nationwide you've got no means of regulating the traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>You also have no way of of being able to

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<v Speaker 1>have emergency responders get to where they need to go

0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.760
<v Speaker 1>in a in a fast way because everything's clogged up

0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.360
<v Speaker 1>with traffic as people are trying to get home, or

0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.840
<v Speaker 1>people are worried about how much fuel they have. That's

0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.960
<v Speaker 1>another big issue if the electricity goes out. Most fueling stations,

0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.320
<v Speaker 1>in fact, nearly all of them required electricity to operate,

0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.760
<v Speaker 1>so you can't refuel your vehicle, but you can siphon

0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:45.160
<v Speaker 1>someone else's and that might end up being an issue too.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, so uh, cell phone service might go out.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of cell phone towers have backup generators, but

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<v Speaker 1>that will only last as long as the fuel does

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<v Speaker 1>not all cell phone towers have backup generators, so once

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<v Speaker 1>it goes out, there offline, which means your phone might work,

0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:01.480
<v Speaker 1>but a person you're trying to call they might not

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<v Speaker 1>have a working cell phone tower and range. And then,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, remember that in many major catastrophes and events,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have so many people trying to access the

0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:16.040
<v Speaker 1>cellular system they're flooding it. We've seen that happen. We've

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<v Speaker 1>seen that have even in even a non emergency situations

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<v Speaker 1>when there's just a large number of people, like when

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<v Speaker 1>c e S happens every year or Comic Con, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many people trying to connect to the local network

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<v Speaker 1>that it just overloads it and nothing goes out, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and nothing comes in. It's like the Willy Wonka factory

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<v Speaker 1>before they opened it up with the golden tickets. Nobody

0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:38.800
<v Speaker 1>ever goes in and nobody ever comes out. Uh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's it's a pretty grim situation. We'll talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more about um possible uh, the possible toll

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<v Speaker 1>in just a bit, But before we do that, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk also about some of the other systems that because

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<v Speaker 1>of the power outage, would be affected. We we just

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<v Speaker 1>touched on one the communication system. So satellites would largely

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<v Speaker 1>be unaffected by any Earth based catastrophe. If it were

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<v Speaker 1>a solar flare, then obviously satellites would be Actually they'd

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<v Speaker 1>be the most vulnerable. The further out you are, the

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<v Speaker 1>more vulnerable you are to to like a solar flare

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<v Speaker 1>or coronal mass ejection. UM. Then you know you could

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<v Speaker 1>end up having the electronics fried on the satellites. A

0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of them are shielded pretty heavily for that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff, because it's more likely to happen to a

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<v Speaker 1>satellite than it is to electronics here on Earth. But

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<v Speaker 1>a truly powerful one, and there have been some in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, could really overwhelm those satellites. Uh. Anything connected

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<v Speaker 1>to the power grid obviously would be it would be vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, you might be able to get radio signals

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a battery operated radio, which, by the way,

0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you should have a battery operated radio. Hand Yeah, hand

0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.880
<v Speaker 1>crank operated radio would be great to Uh, either of

0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:58.920
<v Speaker 1>those are both. You know, there are a lot of

0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.040
<v Speaker 1>combination systems up there where you can get one that

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<v Speaker 1>works on either battery or hand rank I recommend having

0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.640
<v Speaker 1>one of those. Of course, that will only last as

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<v Speaker 1>long as the radio broadcasting power has, you know, has

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<v Speaker 1>a supply of power from whatever source it's pulling it from,

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<v Speaker 1>like a generator, a backup generator. Once the backup generators

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<v Speaker 1>out of fuel, if the blackout continues, then that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to go dark too. So communications might last a little

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<v Speaker 1>longer than the power does, but not it won't be indefinite. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I've also seen people recommend that you go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>invest in walkie talkies because they can provide for communication

0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:44.280
<v Speaker 1>over sometimes miles of distance, uh, and could be invaluable

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<v Speaker 1>depending upon where you are. So uh, cell phone towers

0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and radio stations will all go offline eventually. Are actually

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<v Speaker 1>some developing nations that are making certain that their cell

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<v Speaker 1>phone towers are not on the power grid at all,

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<v Speaker 1>either because there's out of power credit in those remote

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<v Speaker 1>locations or it's just so unreliable that in order to

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<v Speaker 1>have a stable communication system power supply that a lot

0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.440
<v Speaker 1>of them are running on their own generators, and many

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<v Speaker 1>of them are using solar power as a primary means

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<v Speaker 1>for generating electricity for during the daylight hours. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting, and we could take a note from that,

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<v Speaker 1>like we could start building out infrastructure to be robust

0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:33.840
<v Speaker 1>in that same way and independent in that same way. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, like I said, just because you have

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<v Speaker 1>access doesn't mean everybody else, you know does. It could

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<v Speaker 1>still end up being a big issue and you might

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<v Speaker 1>not be able to get in touch with anybody. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's power and communications, But you know, there are other

0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:50.640
<v Speaker 1>things that we rely upon that we take for granted, like, hey,

0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.760
<v Speaker 1>have you ever gone up to a faucet and turned

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<v Speaker 1>on the knob and nothing came out. I've done that

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<v Speaker 1>in my home before. Isn't that a terrifying experience? It's yeah,

0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.520
<v Speaker 1>it's It's especially bad when it's like your mouth is

0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:07.399
<v Speaker 1>full of toothpaste. Yes, that's not that's not good. Yeah. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Running water is one of those things that we often

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<v Speaker 1>take for granted, and uh uh. If the paragrine system

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<v Speaker 1>is down, running water will follow. Maybe not immediately. You

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<v Speaker 1>might actually be able to have running water for a day,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little bit longer. If you happen to live

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<v Speaker 1>in a place that has a lot of water in

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<v Speaker 1>its pipes like New York City, actually could potentially hold

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days worth of water in their pipes. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>just because that the water pressure that's built up and

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<v Speaker 1>the water supplies are enough to go for another couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days, assuming that everyone's not immediately thinking oh, humanities,

0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:44.720
<v Speaker 1>every container in the house, yeah, or which I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>if I thought if I thought that the apocalypse was happening,

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing I would do is fill up every

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<v Speaker 1>container in the house with water. Yeah, me too. Also,

0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:56.119
<v Speaker 1>I'd want to run the washing machine to clean on

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<v Speaker 1>my underwear because I'm sure that it was very recently soiled.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all scared I would be. I would soil not

0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:04.840
<v Speaker 1>just the under where I was wearing, but every pair

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I own. Um. But no, you would you would think

0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:13.800
<v Speaker 1>that that would very quickly eliminate the supplied water. In

0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the United States, we mostly are creating our water pressure

0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:21.879
<v Speaker 1>through water tanks. The water tanks are elevated. Um. It's funny.

0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:26.840
<v Speaker 1>There's actually a very specific formula. Every every foot of

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<v Speaker 1>height provides point four three one pounds per square inch

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure. So if we want to convert that to

0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the metric system, for every thirty point four eight centimeters

0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:41.359
<v Speaker 1>you get two point nine seven two kilo pascals of pressure. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that means nothing to me. I have to do the

0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:46.080
<v Speaker 1>pownds of the pressure that the per square inch of pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>But a municipal water supplies run between fifty and a

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<v Speaker 1>p s i or three five to six nine kilo pascals,

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<v Speaker 1>and most water towers contain enough water to supply the

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding community for a day, assuming normal use, not that

0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:07.800
<v Speaker 1>everybody is trying to. Yeah. So the problem is that

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<v Speaker 1>to refill those water tanks, you have to pump water

0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:16.240
<v Speaker 1>up to those and yeah, those pumps maybe running on electricity,

0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:19.160
<v Speaker 1>So if they're not running on electricity, they're running on fuel.

0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:22.600
<v Speaker 1>So either they're running on electricity and therefore you can't

0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:26.280
<v Speaker 1>use them anymore because the grid is offline. So once

0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.800
<v Speaker 1>the water's gone, it's gone, or they're running on fuel.

0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:32.000
<v Speaker 1>And then once your fuel runs out because you aren't

0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:37.040
<v Speaker 1>able to transport or refine more of it, or or

0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:40.400
<v Speaker 1>get your hands on more of it, the water runs out.

0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Either way, the water runs out. It's just a question

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<v Speaker 1>of time. So that's a huge issue. So it would

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<v Speaker 1>really make you wish that you had access to clean

0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:51.560
<v Speaker 1>well water, and you might depending on where you are,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we live in an urban environment. We don't have

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<v Speaker 1>access to clean well water. I think. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have a well in your backyard, do you

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<v Speaker 1>If that I do have one, I don't know about it,

0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:05.240
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. There's some weird stuff buried back there. Yeah,

0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:07.080
<v Speaker 1>it all depends on how often you do yard work,

0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:09.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, yeah, I don't know what's back underneath

0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:14.399
<v Speaker 1>that mass. Sometimes ghostly creatures come crawling out of my backyard.

0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:19.160
<v Speaker 1>So oldridge horrors are not necessarily an indication that there

0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:23.040
<v Speaker 1>is a well in the nearby area. It's a common misconception.

0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, So unless you have access to clean water,

0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:31.040
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be a huge, huge problem. And for much

0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:33.239
<v Speaker 1>of the population in the United States, that is in

0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:36.960
<v Speaker 1>fact a huge problem that you don't you know, you

0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:39.919
<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily live near a place where you can reliably

0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:45.040
<v Speaker 1>get potable water. Uh. Even bigger problem in other parts

0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:49.000
<v Speaker 1>of the world, obviously, So that's another issue. Then we

0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:52.920
<v Speaker 1>have the cars and fuel. So your car, let's say

0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:56.719
<v Speaker 1>it's an electromagnetic pulse, some of your car systems might

0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:59.000
<v Speaker 1>get fried. But in general, you know, we're talking about

0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:03.480
<v Speaker 1>good old internal bustion that's not affected by electromagnet neetic pulses.

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:06.760
<v Speaker 1>That's not an issue. It's a mechanical system. Not well,

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I understand it is largely I mean, wouldn't there be

0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:17.200
<v Speaker 1>electronical electronic Um Uh yeah, it is, of course largely mechanicals,

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:20.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, combustion. But I wonder about the electronic components,

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:22.879
<v Speaker 1>especially if you have one of these newer cars that's

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<v Speaker 1>all computer brains. The newer, the newer your vehicle, the

0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:29.480
<v Speaker 1>more prone it would be to a real issue with

0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:33.639
<v Speaker 1>an e MP or solar flare. Uh. The older your vehicle,

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 1>the more reliable it would be in those conditions, assuming

0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:40.200
<v Speaker 1>that everything is in good working order obviously, but even so,

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:42.359
<v Speaker 1>you can't get to the gas. If it's a gas

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:45.719
<v Speaker 1>powered car, then you are You've got as much as

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:47.760
<v Speaker 1>you have in your tank, and that's pretty much gonna

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.399
<v Speaker 1>be it. Right. You can't go cut down some gas

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 1>from the forest next door. Gas has to be refined

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<v Speaker 1>from oil, yeah, and so the refineries are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be offline. The even if even if they weren't offline,

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 1>do you still have to have transportation, like you have

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:06.639
<v Speaker 1>to transport the fuel to the different fueling stations. Fueling

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 1>stations will be offline because they need electricity to run.

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 1>So it's a big, big problem. Right, You would have

0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 1>enough gas to get you wherever, you know, however far

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:19.159
<v Speaker 1>your tank of gas will take you, assuming you've got

0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 1>a full tank. Uh, And that would be it. Once

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you ran out, you'd be pretty much stuck unless you

0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:26.080
<v Speaker 1>were able to again siphon gas out of some other

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:29.719
<v Speaker 1>vehicle of Max's car, but be careful because it's booby trapped.

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 1>You're talking about Mr mad Max. So then if we're

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:37.720
<v Speaker 1>looking at diesel engines. That's a little different, right, Some

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 1>diesel engines can run on bio diesel, which is some

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 1>of them can actually run on vegetable oil. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that's an ideal scenario, but then I'm like, well,

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:51.440
<v Speaker 1>you don't encounter vegetable oil anymore commonly in nature than

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:55.639
<v Speaker 1>you do. That's also something that is has to be

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 1>expressed in an industrial process. Yes, yeah, you could. You

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:01.320
<v Speaker 1>could run out and buy as much as you could

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<v Speaker 1>from assuming that you have some way of buying. I mean,

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't care you that much cash on me on

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<v Speaker 1>any given day. So maybe, like in your imagining in

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>the early days of the apocalyptic scenario, there is less

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:17.119
<v Speaker 1>price gouging on vegetable oil than there is on gasoline,

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<v Speaker 1>and probably water would be the biggest one actually that

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<v Speaker 1>I would guess water would be chief. But yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that, um, at least initially, so you would

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 1>have to, you know, somehow have a means of purchasing

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, assuming that people have faith in the currency.

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<v Speaker 1>It all depends on what the nature of the catastrophe was, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, you would also have to have currency if

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 1>you don't If you don't have cash on you, you're

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:46.159
<v Speaker 1>probably stuck. Uh but yeah you could. You could presumably

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 1>use vegetable oil or some other means of oil to

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 1>to fuel your vehicle at least in the short term.

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:53.880
<v Speaker 1>But then once you once those supplies are out, then

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>you're just as stuck as everybody else. Uh So, Yeah,

0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 1>the Mad Max future where people are fighting over water

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and they have cars that magically are fueled by means

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 1>that I don't know like how that works. I don't

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 1>know how they're able to keep a system in place

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 1>to capture and refine fuel and then distribute fuel. But

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 1>apart from Bartertown, which is run on methane. Yeah, that

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:26.119
<v Speaker 1>is also in the second movie, The Road Warrior. Isn't

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the little settlement that the raiders are attacking. They're there

0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like extracting oil from the ground and refining it. Aren't

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>they like set up their own refinery. Yeah, it just

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 1>it makes me wonder like, if you can set your

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 1>own refinery, couldn't you set up a desalination facility, because

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 1>the big issue is water in the Mad Max world.

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 1>That's the huge water and gasoline. I mean, yeah, it

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 1>seems like they're both pretty but I mean, if you're

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>if you're able to get your if you're able to

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>set up a refinery after this whatever the apocalyptic event is, uh,

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:58.680
<v Speaker 1>then you probably also could create a desalination plant, which would,

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>assuming are anywhere close to the ocean, would solve a

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:04.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of your water issues, or at least at least

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 1>diminish them. Um So, then getting the cars all the way,

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:13.160
<v Speaker 1>assuming that we haven't reached this mad Max magical world

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:15.680
<v Speaker 1>where we can still operate a refinery but everything else

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>is gone completely bonkers. What about personal electronics there? Yeah,

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean what are you going to do with them? Yeah,

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.439
<v Speaker 1>they might have a battery that'll work as long as

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.239
<v Speaker 1>the batteries charge, or you need to plug them in

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 1>somewhere and that'll work as long as you have access

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>to power. But if you do, why are we talking

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 1>about this? You could you could potentially have solar panels

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>to recharge electronics, Like, there are a lot of things

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to do that. But so again we sort of said

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.439
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning, like if you've got off the grid power,

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.160
<v Speaker 1>you're in a whole different situation. Then mainly you got

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to worry about who's coming to get your goods. Well,

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm just thinking back to when I got a house

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 1>stuff works backpack that had a solar panel built into

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 1>it where I could charge of it. That came up

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 1>with so much power twelve hours of having it sit

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>in the sun would charge it would charge your phone.

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>But that's twelve hours of direct sunlight on that panel.

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>By the way, sun does not stay still for twelve hours,

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:16.959
<v Speaker 1>so you gotta like you would have to continuously position

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the backpack to have an ideal amount of sunlight in

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:24.119
<v Speaker 1>order to generate the electricity necessary just to recharge a phone.

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 1>Uh so, yeah, you could potentially have some electronics last

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 1>a fairly long time with rechargeable batteries with solar power,

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>it would be sporadic, and also the underlying infrastructure that

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>supported them is no longer there, so you're not getting

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of use out of it unless you're just like, well,

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>it's the am I downloaded all these episodes of I

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know whatever I was just thinking. I was just thinking,

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>like about the apocalypse and everything's gone to hell. But

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>at least I can still play Angry Birds, you know. Yeah, yeah,

0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>so it's um Lord Humongus will kill you for that ip, right, So,

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:05.479
<v Speaker 1>so the the electronics problem also non trivial. All right,

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>so let's talk a little bit about what would happen

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 1>during one of these blackouts. Actually, uh, you linked to

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>a an article that was part of a National Geographic

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 1>special about this. Yeah. It was written by Patrick Jake Tiger,

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 1>who writes for house Stuff Works. Yeah, so one of

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>our one of the members of the family, he wrote

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 1>this thing and and it was a really good article.

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>And it also linked to an interactive page that was

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>all part of this package National Geographic put out depressing

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 1>but very interesting called American Blackout. And uh, the page

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that was interactive was really cool. It was it was

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>telling you how a nationwide blackout in America might unfold

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>over the course of ten days. They assumed that after

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>ten days, whatever the issue was has been resolved and

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>power can be restored. But within that ten days an

0:29:55.840 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>amazing amount of catastrophe and chaos would occur. Um and

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>they looked at, uh, the potential death count of a

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>ten day blackout, nationwide black blackout. Keeping in mind, this

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 1>also affects things like hospitals, So people who would be

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>reliant upon medical facilities to keep them in and keep

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>them alive, they would be at most at risk obviously,

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and they figured that it would have a death count

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>of around three thousand thirteen people after ten days. That's

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:32.719
<v Speaker 1>a that's without factoring in whatever it was that caused

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 1>the blackout in the first place, of course, right, So

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>if there was some other catastrophic event that happened first,

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>obviously that death toll would be in addition to this number. Uh,

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>and the numbers would be much higher depending upon whatever

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>catastrophe it was, zombie apocalypse through the roof um. So

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 1>then you've got the financial impact. So assuming that it's

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 1>something that we could recover from where it doesn't stay

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>post apocalyptic for very long, like whatever the issue issue is,

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>we resolve of it. Uh, after ten days, it would

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>be a cost of one point to trillion dollars of

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>lost productivity, of damages, of all those things kind of

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>lumped in together. Yeah, but just think about all that

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 1>pent up demand. It sounds like a great time to

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 1>start a business. Think of how much you would save

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>on your electricity bill because you haven't been able to

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>use it for ten days. So then we will have

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>a real brief section here just to talk about what

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:28.239
<v Speaker 1>you what you might want to consider to have as

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of a preparedness kit. Yeah, these are your five tips,

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>and this is in case of you know, these these

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>blackout situations which could happen for lots of different reasons. Yeah,

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to stock enough food and water and any

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>medical supplies you might need for everyone in your family

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>to last for seventy two hours. Now, obviously this is

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>referring to food that would not need to be refrigerated.

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Hours worth of mayonnaise has to be like canned goods,

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>that sort of stuff. And uh, you know, you might

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>also want to go ahead and invest in some means

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 1>of like like like some non electronic means of heating

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 1>said food if you want to have it cooked. And

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>of course, as Harlan Ellison would remind us, you need

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:11.719
<v Speaker 1>a can opener. Yes, a can opener would Yes, a

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>manual can opener would be very important. Uh. You also

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>want to make sure you have a stocked first aid kit,

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>which makes sense. Uh. Flashlights and a battery powered radio

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>plus batteries doesn't do much good if you don't have

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>any good, reliable batteries to use. Candles and matches, perferably

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>waterproof matches also a really good idea. And if you

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>have a car, make it a habit to avoid dipping

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>below half full on the gas tank, because if one

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>of these events happens, you want to have enough fuel

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>for you to be able to get home or get

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>away from whatever the incident is, if it happens to

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 1>be localized to your area. Yeah. Now, obviously we've said

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 1>several times now your your best case scenario is to

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>be energy and dependent, Like if you actually had a

0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>bunch of solar panels or some kind of way of

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>general rating power in your home, that's not going to

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 1>run out there. You go, yeah, I've actually seen I

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 1>was looking into this. Tree Hugger did a article about

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the various types of power generation you could do. Our

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 1>electricity generation you could do at home, and solar power

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>is good, except, of course, if it is super volcanic

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>canoe or dust or whatever. There's if there's something that's

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>blocking the sunlight from getting to the earth, that's not

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna help you too much, right so, um, but then

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>you would also have much more serious problems than not

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>being able to charge your eye pass such as like

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 1>crops won't grow we're breathing. That could also be a problem.

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Wind turbines also are a possibility, possibility depending upon where

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>you live and the regulations there. Personal wind turbine would

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 1>a generate I mean like a like a reasonably sized

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 1>one that you could build on your own property. Would

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 1>that get enough energy? Wind turbine with a four foot

0:33:55.880 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 1>diameter of blade diameter would be enough to power a

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>an average home without running all your major appliances. Like

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you're like, you wouldn't be able to run the dryer

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:08.799
<v Speaker 1>on that. You do not need a one with a

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:11.839
<v Speaker 1>nine ft diameter to generate enough electricity to do that,

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:15.839
<v Speaker 1>assuming that you're getting reliable amount of wind where you live.

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 1>And obviously this would be more for people who are

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>not in a denserving environment. So if you have to

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 1>live out in a rural area where you could build

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>such a structure, um, that would be a possibility. I've

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 1>also seen even micro hydro electric power where if you

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>live near a running stream that's running with enough force,

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you could have a micro hydro electric power generation. I've

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>heard of this. It's a great idea because again, like

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 1>just like with the major hydraulic systems or hydraulic system

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:51.839
<v Speaker 1>hydro powered systems, you don't have to worry about running

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 1>out of fuel. So great if you have the accessibility

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 1>to that sort of thing. So let's conclude this by

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>talking about some of our favorite post apocalyptic stories. And

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 1>you know this, this isn't so much on the technology

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.840
<v Speaker 1>side as as just the the worlds that have been

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 1>imagined by various people that take place in in you know,

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>on on Earth where something like this has happened, like

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 1>some some catastrophic event has happened. Sure well, these tend

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 1>to divide between like the very serious and then the

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 1>less serious. I would say so, so both of us,

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to compare The Road and Mad Max. Yes,

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>both of us really like The Road. That is one

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:33.799
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite books of all time. It is a

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 1>very sad, very disturbing book. But it's also very moving.

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:42.919
<v Speaker 1>It has a very uplifting ending. Uh Some might say

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>that it's at least it ends on a at least

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 1>an but from my reading depends on an optimistic note.

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 1>I would yeah, so it's but it is it's a

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>hard read, guys, I mean it's not it's not uh pleasant. Yeah, yeah,

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>it is imagining sort of the last gasp of humanity.

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>So it's not one of these where you know that

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:11.399
<v Speaker 1>we've we've just had the the apocalyptic event. It's it's

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 1>one of these where there aren't many people at all left.

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 1>And the really cool thing, or one of the really

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 1>cool things about the book is it never explains what

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the event was. Yeah, so it describes lots of things

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>like their earthquakes. Um, the sky is constantly gray and

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 1>all of the plant life is dead, presumably because the

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>sunlight has been blocked by the cloud cover in the skies.

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 1>And when I first read it, I assumed, well, I

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.959
<v Speaker 1>think it's probably talking about nuclear war or something like that.

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>But then I read and I wish I could find this.

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I tried to go back and find it and couldn't.

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I read a blog post years ago on the Internet

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 1>somebody had put together explaining their theory of why they

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 1>thought the the event, imagined by the author Cormick McCarthy,

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 1>was a super volcano eruption, and I remember thinking that

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 1>they made a really good case, but then I couldn't

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>find what they wrote. Yeah. I think the best argument

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>for that is I don't recall anything in there about

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:12.320
<v Speaker 1>a fear of radiation. Yeah, whereas a super volcano could

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 1>cause many of the same features as a nuclear winter,

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>but without the nuclear fallout. Um. Yeah, that's a that's

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 1>a great it's a great story. It's again tough read,

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:27.760
<v Speaker 1>but a great worthwhile Along the same lines, I guess

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:30.839
<v Speaker 1>some people might consider this lower form of art, but

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I was actually really impressed by the story in the

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>video game The Last of Us. I'd say that definitely,

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:39.799
<v Speaker 1>hands down had the best writing of any video game

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I've ever played, and in the world they imagined was

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of sad and beautiful and and it was a

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:50.280
<v Speaker 1>post apocalyptic scenario caused by a fungal infection that created

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:53.280
<v Speaker 1>a zombie like stage. Yeah, it's a it's essentially another

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>zombie outbreak story, but without it being uh yeah, without

0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 1>it being magical zombies. It's it's based more on on

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 1>things that we have actually observed in nature, though not

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 1>with humans but with other life forms. Right, Yeah, it's

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:10.840
<v Speaker 1>based on the fungus that infects ants and changes their behavior,

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 1>gets into their brains. It's just kind of like, well,

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 1>what if a fungus could get into your brain and

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 1>make you want to bite people? So that is that

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 1>is another good one. I also enjoyed World War Z,

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 1>which I would argue still falls on the serious side.

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I haven't read the novel I saw the movie and

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>was not very The novel is entirely different from Yeah,

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:33.240
<v Speaker 1>I've heard that I heard the novel was in fact

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 1>and just like completely different in format and approach. There

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 1>there are tiny elements that happened in the novel that

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>are touched upon in the film, but they are not

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:47.399
<v Speaker 1>at all related otherwise. It's the novel is really more

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>of a collection of uh stories. It's it's told as

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a journalist, not well journalist who's working essentially for

0:38:55.960 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the u N collecting the stories from survivors. This this

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 1>is post zombie outbreak, post war with the zombies. The

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 1>humans have won the war. Zombie Outbreak has been largely defeated.

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 1>There's still some zombies in the world, but they are

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>few and far between and are are often you know,

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>rounded up and killed off. So humanity is on the

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:21.360
<v Speaker 1>rebound now, and it's more of a discussion about what

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 1>happened leading up to and throughout this zombie war, whether

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>and I. And it's told in a way where you

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 1>don't really know what the actual precipitating event was um,

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 1>which is very realistic. I think, you know, like as

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>as someone who wants to hear a story you kind

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 1>of want to know all the details, but if you

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 1>were actually a person there, you wouldn't necessarily have all

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the information available to you, especially when you consider that

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the people who might have been responsible

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 1>in some way or another or had observed what happened

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:53.320
<v Speaker 1>are no longer around because they've been turned into zombies

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 1>or killed in some other way. UM. Very powerful story though,

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>and also very interesting to hear kind of the human

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>psychology that might be involved in something like that. Yeah,

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>so in both of the ones I mentioned so far,

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 1>there was a pretty much a total breakdown of of

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:17.439
<v Speaker 1>the larger function of technological society. Though in the last

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 1>of us there there, you know, there are still people

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:22.280
<v Speaker 1>who get some power from generators and stuff. It seems

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 1>like somebody is still locating gasoline somehow. But also that's

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 1>one of the examples I was mentioning. Another one would

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 1>be Dawn to the Planet of the Apes, where people

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:34.600
<v Speaker 1>are trying to get hydroelectric plants back online, because that,

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 1>as we mentioned, that does seem like a really good

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>bet for trying to revive at least a local power

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:44.320
<v Speaker 1>grid in a post apocalyptic scenario. And in that world,

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's only like a tiny bit of San Francisco.

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:51.399
<v Speaker 1>I think that's still alive or is the concentrating you mean?

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 1>And Dawn to the Planet of the Apes, not the

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 1>last none, last us, last of Us. It's all spread

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>out all over the place. Yeah. Uh so, here's another

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>one along a maybe sillier line. I love Dawn of

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 1>the Dead. I like the way things are progressing there.

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I like watching they're the scenes that depicted the breakdown

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>of discipline in the media, like the TV stations that

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 1>are still trying to broadcast but people are sort of

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:17.720
<v Speaker 1>losing focus. I assume you are talking about the original

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>don yes, not the remake. Yes, the one that was

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:26.720
<v Speaker 1>also a commentary on consumerism. It's a great movie for

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 1>for me. One of the big ones. The Fallout series

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 1>of games. Fantastic weird tone mishmash of comedic and tragic

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>in those games, but I think it works. Yeah, there's

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 1>this this kind of almost almost manic optimism that is

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>being portrayed in a lot of the stuff you come

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 1>across as a character in those games, despite the overwhelmingly

0:41:56.160 --> 0:42:01.440
<v Speaker 1>awfulness of the world. Yeah, it's the gallows hum. It's

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:06.240
<v Speaker 1>that nineteen fifties style of you could do it, but meanwhile,

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 1>like everything's on fire and everyone's terrible, right. Yeah. Also,

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 1>another way that it sort of has a mash up

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 1>is it's very high tech low tech mash up. So

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 1>it has you know, lasers and exoskeleton power suits and robots,

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:25.839
<v Speaker 1>but also you know extremely you know, bow and arrow

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of logs, and the aesthetic tends to be the

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifties style of our vision of the future, not

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 1>how things actually turned out. So it's a really it's

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 1>it's an alternate past leading to a an alternate, bizarre future. Um,

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 1>and you've got some other ones on here. In fact,

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 1>these are also some of my favorites. Well, yeah, a

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 1>couple of the Mad Max movies. Of course, you I

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 1>could not neglect Mad Max. I have to confess I've

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:55.960
<v Speaker 1>never actually seen the first one all the way through. Yeah,

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:59.399
<v Speaker 1>the Road Warrior is is a more entertaining film. Oh yeah,

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:01.759
<v Speaker 1>so you start with the second one. I love The

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Road Warrior. Can't get enough beyond Thunderdome. I know a

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of people think it's bad. Maybe it is kind

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 1>of bad, but I still love it. It's it's definitely

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:13.319
<v Speaker 1>more campy. Yeah. And then so folks when I saw

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Mad Max Fury Road. It's not necessarily that it's the

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:20.840
<v Speaker 1>best movie I've ever seen in my life. It's that

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 1>once I walked out of the theater, it was the

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 1>only movie I had ever seen in h I love

0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 1>that movie so much. It just it hit all of

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the happy places in my body and in my brain.

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 1>It's also funny that on forward thinking, somehow we managed

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 1>to bring it back to the doufwagon every few episodes.

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:45.280
<v Speaker 1>That was just such an amazing, amazing reality that they created.

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:47.359
<v Speaker 1>I think what I told Rachel when we walked out

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 1>of the theater was I feel like I could rip

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Australia in half with my hands. All right, now, you've

0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:57.320
<v Speaker 1>got to tell everybody what Zardaz is because unless they are,

0:43:57.360 --> 0:44:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, a fan of being movie schlock science fiction,

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 1>they probably have no clue. Well, Zardas actually touches on

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 1>something kind of interesting, despite the fact that it's a

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:15.000
<v Speaker 1>very weird and very intensely bad movie. Yeah. So it's

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 1>got Sean Connery wearing this like red diaper and carrying

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:21.839
<v Speaker 1>a gun, and he plays some kind of I don't know,

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:28.320
<v Speaker 1>future post apocalyptic wasteland policeman who mostly just murders people

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 1>from what you can tell, and then he gets sucked

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>into a giant head that's actually a spaceship and taken

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 1>to a strange sort of commune of immortal psychic people.

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 1>It's very hard to describe the plot of Zardas, but

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.319
<v Speaker 1>done a pretty good job considering it's one of the

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 1>weirdest movies I've ever seen, and for that reason it's

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 1>actually worth seeing despite the fact that it is. It

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 1>utterly fails to be good, but it is never for

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:58.719
<v Speaker 1>a second boring. Yeah. Anyway, but I mentioned that it

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:02.839
<v Speaker 1>touches on something interest. It actually does the idea that

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 1>past technologies, through a sort of like dark age imposed

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 1>by I don't know, catastrophe of one kind or another,

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:15.359
<v Speaker 1>could be rediscovered, but we wouldn't remember how to use

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 1>them or how to maintain them. I mean, it's possible

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 1>for dark ages to happen and then to re emerge

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 1>from them and to rediscover all of the scientific and

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:29.320
<v Speaker 1>technological sophistication of an earlier age that that's actually happened

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:32.040
<v Speaker 1>on Earth at times. You know, you had the Bronze

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Age collapse, you had the you had what are sometimes

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 1>called the Dark Ages in Europe. Now a lot of

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:39.840
<v Speaker 1>historians look back and say, well, that's maybe not the

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 1>most accurate way to describe that age in Europe. But

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 1>at least then you had times when a lot of

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:49.719
<v Speaker 1>the technological progress that had been achieved during say the

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Roman Empire, suddenly people didn't know how to do this

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:56.240
<v Speaker 1>stuff anymore. Yeah, not until the Renaissance, where they began

0:45:56.320 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 1>to rediscover and build upon those those advanced is from

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:03.319
<v Speaker 1>ancient times. Yes, so Zardas kind of touches on that.

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.720
<v Speaker 1>It's got all these people who are in some ways

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:09.359
<v Speaker 1>sort of interacting with high technology, but they don't understand it.

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:12.879
<v Speaker 1>So I recommend if you've never seen Zardas, you don't

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 1>need to seize Ardas necessarily, but definitely seek out the trailer,

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:20.640
<v Speaker 1>which is on YouTube and is amazing. Yeah, especially if

0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you love the names Zardas, because you're gonna hear that

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Yeah, you're gonna hear Sean Connery say it

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:29.359
<v Speaker 1>in his accent over and over. And then the last

0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:33.360
<v Speaker 1>one you have on here, Robot Monster. Well this really

0:46:33.400 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 1>belonging post apocalyptic? Yes it does, because the premise of

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Robot Monster is that this race of aliens, who the

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 1>main one we meet is the robot monster named Roman,

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I believe, and he is a guy in some kind

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:51.279
<v Speaker 1>of ape suit. It's like a gorilla suit with a

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:55.319
<v Speaker 1>it's like a gumball machine on his head, and that's

0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:59.760
<v Speaker 1>his costume. And he represents this species of aliens who

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I think comes and conquers Earth. I don't remember all

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the details, but suddenly they're just like five people left

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:09.360
<v Speaker 1>on Earth. But Roman has an extremely difficult time conquering

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:11.680
<v Speaker 1>these five people who seem to be about a mile

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>away from him. Yeah, I uh, I think of that

0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:17.719
<v Speaker 1>as a movie where the audience feels as if they've

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:22.439
<v Speaker 1>been through a post apocalyptic event. Uh, not necessarily the

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:24.480
<v Speaker 1>film itself. Well, I think that was on an episode

0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:27.239
<v Speaker 1>of Mystery Science Theater, wasn't it. You know. I want

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 1>to say I know that. Well, they've done so many,

0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:31.320
<v Speaker 1>but I want to say that that was one of

0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:35.359
<v Speaker 1>the ones they've done. Um, they certainly have alluded to

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 1>it before. Well, Joe, thank you so much for coming

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:41.760
<v Speaker 1>on here and doing these these pair of episodes about

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 1>post apocalyptic technology. Well, thank you for inviting me. It

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 1>has been a whole barrel of fun. Yeah. I enjoyed

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:52.320
<v Speaker 1>pulling that tune out of the basket. It also, like,

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:54.799
<v Speaker 1>like I said with the Manhattan Project episodes with Ben,

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like, it's kind of like, you know, the

0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:58.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff they don't want you to know is I think

0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 1>of that as the other side of the coin of

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:04.560
<v Speaker 1>forward thinking, Like that's those are two. Forward thinking is

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the big, optimistic side typically and stuff they don't want

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 1>you to know is like the dark, cynical side. Yeah,

0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 1>And in a way, this is also kind of like

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:17.439
<v Speaker 1>the other side of the forward thinking coin. It's very

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 1>different from the stuff we do over it forward thinking.

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:22.600
<v Speaker 1>We wouldn't normally explore this kind of topic over there,

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 1>but it was fun to be able to explore it

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:27.759
<v Speaker 1>here on text stuff um and and talk about some

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 1>of our favorite post apocalyptic stories as well as the

0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 1>actual things that we would expect in those kind of scenarios.

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I hope that largely, really, I hope that does one

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 1>of two things. One, it convinces people that, yeah, it's

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 1>important for us to think about ways to make our

0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:48.400
<v Speaker 1>various infrastructures more robust so that in the case of

0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:51.319
<v Speaker 1>something catastrophic happening, we can localize it. We can we

0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 1>can separate it from everything else, and we can deal

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 1>with it. So that it doesn't become a wider problem,

0:48:57.920 --> 0:48:59.719
<v Speaker 1>and too that it alerts them that there are things

0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:03.839
<v Speaker 1>that we as citizens can do to protect ourselves, so

0:49:03.880 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 1>that you know, if something like this happens, or when

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:08.600
<v Speaker 1>something like this happens, if you're looking at along the

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 1>time scale, we get through it with the minimum amount

0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:16.840
<v Speaker 1>of problem, knowing that you know, it's not going to

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:19.719
<v Speaker 1>be necessarily fun or easy. Easy to get through it,

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 1>but there are things we can do that will make

0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:28.239
<v Speaker 1>it less traumatic, and that's important. So I think those

0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:30.719
<v Speaker 1>are the messages to go home with. Not not that

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not trying to scare anyone. I'm more like,

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:36.200
<v Speaker 1>just be aware. It's it's good to know that way

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 1>at least, at least if something like that happens, it's

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:43.560
<v Speaker 1>not a total surprise. Uh. But you can find Joe's

0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:45.880
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