WEBVTT - Nick Sirianni’s Extension, Brock Purdy’s Big Deal + Is J.J. McCarthy the NFL's biggest wild card in 2025?

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<v Speaker 1>And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up, everybody? Welcome into the sticks, DJ, Buck with

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<v Speaker 2>your buck. What is going on? Man?

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing? DJ, just getting ready for it. You know how

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<v Speaker 3>this thing goes. Like we get to the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the school year, we're about to go on summer break,

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<v Speaker 3>try and make everything happen, graduations all that, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'm actually my son's got internship in as

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<v Speaker 2>we've discussed before, in Nashville. So I'm in Nashville. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in downstairs in this apartment. Like they have these workrooms

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, apartments from when we were coming up,

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<v Speaker 2>they've come a long way. It's a lot nicer. They

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<v Speaker 2>had this little work room, but there's a lot a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of other people in these little workstations. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're like, like trying to be doing real work.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you hear the golf voice, Buckets, because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying not to be that guy's trying.

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<v Speaker 3>To How you doing, man, Man, I'm good, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>I know we're going going to start off. I'll dit

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<v Speaker 3>you do intro before we talk about some of this stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>this news that's been happening all weekend, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people getting paid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's a good point. Let's start right there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time for Hot or Not brought you by with

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<v Speaker 2>Within the hour before recording this next Sirianni gets a

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<v Speaker 2>new deal with the Philadelphia Eagles, and I was thinking of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a great example, but it's not how

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<v Speaker 2>you start, it's how you finish. If you think about

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<v Speaker 2>the opening news conference and all the grief that he

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<v Speaker 2>got from that, and then you go through you know,

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<v Speaker 2>getting to a super Bowl and not getting the super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>then you have a little bit of a setback, and

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<v Speaker 2>then to get back into the super Bowl and then

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<v Speaker 2>when it and now cash in. It's been it's been

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting example to me of someone who's persevered through

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<v Speaker 2>some rough moments, but someone who I think has the

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<v Speaker 2>complete and uh and total faith of his team in

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<v Speaker 2>his locker room, and it's it's shown by what he

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<v Speaker 2>was able to accomplish and what they were able to

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<v Speaker 2>accomplish this last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Little man. I think sometimes DJ the best thing that

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<v Speaker 3>can happen before head coaches. You get knocked back a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit and you have to kind of reflect and

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<v Speaker 3>re emerge as a little bit of a different guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Herean, he's done a great job when you look

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<v Speaker 3>at what he's accomplished during his four years. But the Eagles. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>he's been in two Super Bowls, He's won one. He

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<v Speaker 3>has a seventy percent winning percentage, which is third highest

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<v Speaker 3>among coaches we've had fifty games. I mean, we can

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<v Speaker 3>say a lot about him being quirky, and some of

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<v Speaker 3>that was impacted by the opening presser, but you can't

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<v Speaker 3>dispute how good he is, where he call plays or not.

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<v Speaker 3>He has figured out a way to get his team

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<v Speaker 3>to the winner circle multiple occasions. He has unlocked some

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<v Speaker 3>fantastic talents on offense and defense. And as the head

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<v Speaker 3>coach and someone who I will say like he can

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<v Speaker 3>be a little emotional, a little volado, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>he fits the city. Look his work. I mean, forty

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<v Speaker 3>eight and twenty is nothing to sneeze at. With two

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<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl appearances in four years.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the difference between Pat playing for someone who who's

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<v Speaker 2>and I know you played for a lot of edgy guys,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm trying to think maybe Homarden wasn't quite as

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<v Speaker 2>edgy You've told me this before, but I'm just curious.

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<v Speaker 2>He's someone who is, as you mentioned, emotional, where's it

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<v Speaker 2>on his sleeve? And I think there's different ways to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. I mean, Andy Reid is not Andy Reid

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<v Speaker 2>is like the exact opposite of that. But to me,

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<v Speaker 2>he's kind of the poster child for someone who's passionate

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<v Speaker 2>and doesn't hide it. So I'm just curious that someone

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<v Speaker 2>is anybody you can think of like will be the

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<v Speaker 2>poor opposites the guys you played for.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say Marve Levy, Hall of Famer, the coach

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<v Speaker 3>was real, quiet, cerebral, very matter of fact about what

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<v Speaker 3>he was teaching and coaching. And then John Gruden was

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<v Speaker 3>a fireball. I mean he was young, energetic like he was,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean energy NonStop. He always wanted juice, very emotional

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<v Speaker 3>award on his sleeve. You can see by his facial

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<v Speaker 3>expressions exactly what he thought. A lot of coaches don't

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<v Speaker 3>operate like that, you know, and so he's different. But

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, depending on like, the messaging can be

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<v Speaker 3>the same, they just deliver it in different ways. And

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<v Speaker 3>for some guys, the fiery coach works for them. Some

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<v Speaker 3>other guys the cerebral, very patient, very thought thought out,

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<v Speaker 3>thoughtful coach works. Both can be successful. I think the

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<v Speaker 3>big thing, and I think Sirianni found this out. You've

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<v Speaker 3>got to be true to you. If you're authentic to

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<v Speaker 3>who you are, your style works because that's who you

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<v Speaker 3>really are. Good batter and different.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing I would be most excited about if you're

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<v Speaker 2>an Eagles fan. Number one, you've got this core group

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<v Speaker 2>locked in, so you've got your core group of guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You got a good group of young players. You haven't

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<v Speaker 2>had to pay yet, so you've able to balance kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the high priced veterans with some young, cheaper players.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you think about it, boock, you got your coach,

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<v Speaker 2>so you've got some continuity there. You've got arguably the

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<v Speaker 2>best personnel department in football in terms of roster building.

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<v Speaker 2>And then, to me, like the little sleeper, the thing

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<v Speaker 2>about the Philadelpha Eagles team is similar to the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 2>and having Spagnolo, who's a great coach, who hasn't been

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<v Speaker 2>in probably you know, doesn't look like it's getting opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>Big Fangio ain't leaving anywhere to be a head coach

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<v Speaker 2>anytime soon either, so you're gonna have continuity for this

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<v Speaker 2>group going forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're gonna have connuity. And I'm gonna say DJ,

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna have continuity on both sides of the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Because even though Nick sire Yanni doesn't call plays, Nick

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<v Speaker 3>siir Yani was the one that in a way unlocked

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Hurts in terms of the things that they did.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's always able to keep the offense in a

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<v Speaker 3>certain lane while giving the offense coordinator freedom. In big Fangio,

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<v Speaker 3>the continuity, this sibility that defense is always going to

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<v Speaker 3>be good as long as he's gonna be around. It's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a system that everyone can grow in. And

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<v Speaker 3>because they can grow in, it makes it very easy

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<v Speaker 3>for the personnel department to stock people in it because

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<v Speaker 3>the system doesn't change year to year.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's something that we'll get to as we

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<v Speaker 2>get closer to the season in terms of the preview things,

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<v Speaker 2>as we start looking at these teams, looking at these

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<v Speaker 2>division these conferences and trying to figure out who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be good. But at this point in time, just

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<v Speaker 2>with this Eagles team, when you look at Washington, where

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<v Speaker 2>they are, you know, I think Washington obviously with the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback and a lot of the things they've done and

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<v Speaker 2>being right there with them last year. You look at Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>you look at Giants, who are going to be better.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you know with what they've done the off season,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be better. And then you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys who have a talented team, like are they

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<v Speaker 2>any threat? Are these teams legit threats or is this

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<v Speaker 2>a clear Philly is still the clear favorite?

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<v Speaker 3>I think phi Philly is still the clear favorite. However,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the Super Bowl hangover is real, and we've

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<v Speaker 3>seen how challenging it can be when you go to

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<v Speaker 3>the mountain top to stay on top of the mountain,

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<v Speaker 3>like you got to scale it. The schedule is harder.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone is now using you, using your team as the

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<v Speaker 3>measuring stick game, so you're getting everybody's best punch for

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen games. That's that can be tough to fend off.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're going to be there, and you understand, like

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<v Speaker 3>if injuries aren't a factor once they get into the tournament,

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<v Speaker 3>because they know how to win it, look, they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a very very difficult out. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>it really just depandazonic. Can they stay locked in and

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<v Speaker 3>focus enough to do all the things that they did

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<v Speaker 3>last year, the necessary steps to be the same team

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<v Speaker 3>they need to be when to get into the tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was interesting if you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>teams that are outside that division who have to get

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<v Speaker 2>through the Eagles. I think it's kind of the ultimate

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<v Speaker 2>compliment when you see teams trying to build their team,

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<v Speaker 2>not even in your division, but you can see a

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<v Speaker 2>folk like to me, the Rams and the Niners, they

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<v Speaker 2>made this concerted effort that we're going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>physical line of scrimmage team and we're going to stop

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<v Speaker 2>the run. Like that, to me is interesting how those

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<v Speaker 2>teams outside the division, knowing who they got to get through,

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<v Speaker 2>that tells you where Philly is right now in the packing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it does, and it it speaks to the bigger

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<v Speaker 3>point on team building we've always talked about the first

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<v Speaker 3>thing that you do have to do is you got

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to build your team to win the division.

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<v Speaker 3>But you also have to take a look around the

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<v Speaker 3>landscape and say, well, who are the teams that are

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the formidable foes for the next four

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<v Speaker 3>or five years. Do we have enough to deal with them? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're in the NFC. You're looking at field, you're

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<v Speaker 3>looking at how young the team is. It's easy to

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<v Speaker 3>envision them being a team that is always kind of

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the gatekeeper when it comes to title contention. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>if I got to deal with them, I know, from

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<v Speaker 3>an offensive perspective, I better be able to deal with

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<v Speaker 3>Jaylen Carter. I got to have someone to deal with

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<v Speaker 3>the young corners that they have on the outside, the

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<v Speaker 3>waves of pass versus that they also have. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot to deal with. So I got to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that I build my team the right way.

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<v Speaker 3>Otherwise we can get into the playoffs and we're not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have enough gas to deal with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how does How does does Philadelphia double down on what

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<v Speaker 2>they've done or do they try and branch out into

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<v Speaker 2>other areas to combat how teams are trying to stop them.

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<v Speaker 2>And it looks like we're going to get the vote

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<v Speaker 2>here on the Toush push here again coming up soon,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll see how that alters at least their fourth

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<v Speaker 2>down game planning. But it is fascinating to see the

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<v Speaker 2>team that at the very top. Do you see a

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<v Speaker 2>way else trying to build and collect pieces to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to combat that team at the very top. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>wassabi dot com. Buck big, big, big contract came down,

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<v Speaker 2>not just on the coaching side, on the player side.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I did those little little ads with

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<v Speaker 2>Rock Purdy for Toyota that we did draft Nice and

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<v Speaker 2>I got We talked a bit about a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's he is a good dude. Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>easy to see. And when people are like, is he

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<v Speaker 2>going to get paid? You know what's that going to

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<v Speaker 2>look like? And I think I had told you this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, dude, you can see what. Kyle Chanahan loves

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<v Speaker 2>this guy like he can literally play the game through

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<v Speaker 2>him because he can comprehend everything that's coming into his

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<v Speaker 2>head and he can execute it. So that's why you

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<v Speaker 2>end up getting five for two sixty five, one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eighty one million in total guarantees, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five the first three years. So there was no

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<v Speaker 2>discount here as people were saying, maybe he'll get the

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<v Speaker 2>middle tier contract. This is not a middle tier.

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<v Speaker 3>Contract mana moutierr cont And the thing that everyone has

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<v Speaker 3>pay attention to is no trade clause. No trade clause

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<v Speaker 3>for the entirety of the contract. So brock Peridy is

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<v Speaker 3>the Niners quarterback. It one of tells me a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of different things when it comes to the team. And

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<v Speaker 3>then I'm to ask you a question about scout and

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<v Speaker 3>what did we learn from the brock Purty deal. For

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<v Speaker 3>so long we always talk about quarterbacks, and we always

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<v Speaker 3>talk about the physical tools and the arm talent, the

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<v Speaker 3>athleticism and those things, and you got to have those.

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<v Speaker 3>I think brock Purdy is the example of the intangible qualities.

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<v Speaker 3>When you talk to people around the team and you

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<v Speaker 3>talk to like you listen to his teammates talk about him.

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<v Speaker 3>It is how he fits in. Trent Williams Early was

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<v Speaker 3>all on the brock Purty thing, and you talk about

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<v Speaker 3>Kittle and Nick Bosa, all those guys have rallied behind

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<v Speaker 3>him very early. There is a magical quality that he exudes.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's because he was mister Irrelevant and he came

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<v Speaker 3>in and quietly just did his work, and he had

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<v Speaker 3>to let his performance speak before he really could speak,

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<v Speaker 3>and he earned the respect of his teammates, which makes

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<v Speaker 3>it easy for the guys to go to work for you.

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<v Speaker 3>And now I'm gonna say this, eighty five percent of

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<v Speaker 3>the league's players are system players. And the trick is

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that you put players in the right

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<v Speaker 3>system to match their skills. Rock Purdy is in the

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<v Speaker 3>perfect system to match his skills. The way that Kyle

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<v Speaker 3>Shanahan operates the inbreaking routes, the timing, and the execution

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<v Speaker 3>some of those things coming off play a play action,

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<v Speaker 3>rock Purdy has a fearlessness when it comes to letting

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<v Speaker 3>the ball go on time. And because he can do that,

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<v Speaker 3>and because they've surrounded him with catch and run specialists

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<v Speaker 3>in those things. Man, this offense is magical when a

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<v Speaker 3>everyone is healthy and he is able to deal from

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<v Speaker 3>the pocket, I understand why the Niners might value him

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<v Speaker 3>more than people on the outside could value rock Purty.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So I want to take people inside when

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing a scouting report, and we've talked about the

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<v Speaker 2>different scales, the different grading scills. Well for position specific grades,

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<v Speaker 2>we've used the places I've been. We did three through seven,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was five is average, six above average, seven

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<v Speaker 2>elite you know four below average, three is poor. So

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<v Speaker 2>if we're just gonna use that three to seven scale,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to kind of go through this process with

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<v Speaker 2>you because I want to let's take like elite arm strength,

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<v Speaker 2>elite size, elite athletic ability. We're gonna put those things

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<v Speaker 2>to the side. I'm just gonna give you some key

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback traits. So I'm gonna let you do the grade

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<v Speaker 2>three to seven. You're ready, Yeah. Competitiveness, Oh, he's a

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<v Speaker 2>seven all day. Toughness, Oh, he shows seven qualities. He

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<v Speaker 2>always takes the ball poise. Look, DJ, I've rarely seen

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<v Speaker 2>him rout. I would give him a six or seven

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<v Speaker 2>on that. I'd never see him flustered when he gets fulled.

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<v Speaker 2>He always just bounce back, goes to the next what intelligence?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh seven, So I'm like, you start to see like

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the nucleus of what a of what a

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<v Speaker 2>good quarterback is, and then we can go on to accuracy,

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<v Speaker 2>decision making, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 1>And he has a lot of like when you step

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<v Speaker 1>back at it and you just go, okay, let's strip

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<v Speaker 1>away the fact this guy's not six five athlete wise,

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<v Speaker 1>he's above average athlete. I would say, oh, he can

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<v Speaker 1>move around, he's a five plus, you know, six level athlete.

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<v Speaker 1>But buck are a lot of the key components of

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<v Speaker 1>that position where he is a.

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<v Speaker 3>Seven and so here is where scouting is tricky, I

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<v Speaker 3>would say for us and even for other guys. So

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<v Speaker 3>Red Lewis and I had an opportunity to watch him

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<v Speaker 3>the entire week at the East West Fron. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he was fine, he was okay. Him and Ad and

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<v Speaker 3>O'Connell day were going around. We talked to Purty like

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<v Speaker 3>I can't say that, like he popped, and like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to be this guy. But I think the

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<v Speaker 3>lesson is there is development that can be had for everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly quarterbacks. When Brock Purty was drafted as mister irrelevant

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<v Speaker 3>last in the draft class, he went to work and

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<v Speaker 3>in going to work, he got better DJ The guy

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<v Speaker 3>that we see today is not the guy that we

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<v Speaker 3>saw at Iowa State. But let's talk about what Iowa

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<v Speaker 3>State did for him. Rock Purdy or year player. I

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<v Speaker 3>think when he ended the league he had forty nine starts.

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<v Speaker 3>When he left Iowa State, he had darned near all

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<v Speaker 3>the records. When it came to passing and those things,

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<v Speaker 3>and what we have seen in this league, experienced players

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<v Speaker 3>experience quarterbacks in particular, they're set up to have success

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<v Speaker 3>more so than the guys that are two and done,

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<v Speaker 3>three and done, two year starter than im out. Rock

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<v Speaker 3>Purty's experience because he played so many games, has so

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<v Speaker 3>many reps to me. I think it translated very very

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<v Speaker 3>well for Kyle Shanahan because as you talked about Kyle

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<v Speaker 3>Shanahan playing the game through him, because he'd been in

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<v Speaker 3>so many situations and scenarios, I just felt like they

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<v Speaker 3>connect on a high level when it comes to here's

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<v Speaker 3>what I want, here's a situation, Here's how you handle

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<v Speaker 3>the situation. Execute. Rock Prudy's time on task as a

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<v Speaker 3>collegiate helped him become a very productive player as a

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<v Speaker 3>pro because he has so much experience coming into the process.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about this, if you take guys that

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<v Speaker 2>have intelligence, work ethic, and toughness, right like you'd kind

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<v Speaker 2>of have the mental physical toughness. They're intelligent and they're

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<v Speaker 2>great workers. We've seen now a lot of examples of

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<v Speaker 2>guys who've changed things as throwers. I'll go back to

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<v Speaker 2>when we were doing Aaron Rodgers coming out high Caridge

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<v Speaker 2>right up, balls up by your ear. Yeah, he lowered

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<v Speaker 2>the ball, he loosened up, he got a little more loose,

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<v Speaker 2>a little more fluid. Changed. You look at Josh Allen,

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<v Speaker 2>and Josh Allen did a lot of that work with

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Palmer full work wise, he cleaned up a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the issues that he had. He went from someone

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<v Speaker 2>who was not super.

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<v Speaker 3>Accurate at the collegiate level to someone who's gotten you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to an elite, elite level of accuracy.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, Patrick Mahomes, who was screens and crambles, scrambles,

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<v Speaker 2>drifting all over the place. But you know, look at

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<v Speaker 2>how he cleaned up his in the middles rock Perty.

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<v Speaker 4>When I talked to him about his arm strength when

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<v Speaker 4>we were doing this thing with Toyota, and I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 4>like I just when I went and watched you, like,

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't think you had a big arm, and you

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<v Speaker 4>know some of my concerns he said, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>After the after the season ended, I you know, got

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<v Speaker 2>with quarterback coach and I realized I was too bulked up.

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<v Speaker 2>I was I was gotten a little stiff because I

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<v Speaker 2>had gotten so strong. So he dropped a bunch of weight,

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<v Speaker 2>changed his body type, loosened up, got more life on

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<v Speaker 2>the ball by doing that. So what I'm getting at

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<v Speaker 2>Buck is if you can find the guy who is smart,

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<v Speaker 2>who is competitive, and who is tough, they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>take in like, hey, you need to be better in

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<v Speaker 2>this area. Okay, I can. I can make that adjustment.

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<v Speaker 2>I can change my body, I can change my mechanics.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's so to me. It's almost like, man, the wiring.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got the wiring. We'll figure the rest of it out.

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<v Speaker 3>DJ. I think I think we've said this. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we always talk about floors and ceilings. I think the

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<v Speaker 3>best thing for a coach is to know exactly who

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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting every day. What's the floor? Like with Brock Puridy,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a level of consistency that you knew, Okay, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>here's where he is at a minimum. If I know

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<v Speaker 3>that's what he's always going to be every day, this

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<v Speaker 3>is where the coaching comes in. Hey, every day he

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<v Speaker 3>shows up, Brock purity is going to be at this level. Cool.

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<v Speaker 3>My job is to take him at that level. How

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<v Speaker 3>can we build a team, how can we win with him?

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<v Speaker 3>But because he's tough, he's smart, he's competitive. I can

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<v Speaker 3>take that floor, I can take those traits, and I

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<v Speaker 3>can build a winning plan around that. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>one of those things where we're so quick to want

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<v Speaker 3>the kind of microwave quarterbacks and do it. And I

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<v Speaker 3>would say, brock Purdy jumped in early second. He jumped

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<v Speaker 3>in and he was able to do it. But I

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<v Speaker 3>do think that speaks to the development that's necessary, the

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<v Speaker 3>patience and the discipline that the San Francisco forty nine

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<v Speaker 3>ers exhibited while dealing with him. That yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>long process, and I give them credit because the noise

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<v Speaker 3>could have gotten loud because they missed on trade lance.

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<v Speaker 3>But then here comes to the late round pick. Who

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<v Speaker 3>made him right. They ignored the annoys when everyone's saying like, oh,

0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:07.720
<v Speaker 3>you need to go get hit this person and you

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<v Speaker 3>can upgrade this position. And no, he's our quarterback. We

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<v Speaker 3>feel good about what he offers. He's right for us.

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<v Speaker 3>And really the conviction that they showed, that's what we

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<v Speaker 3>all wanted to show when we're scouts.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking of this too, like tell me if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I didn't want your opinion on this, because if

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you, you can have an elite person at just quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 2>just quarterbacks. So let's go elite makeup, elite person, good

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<v Speaker 2>player or elite talent good person. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more players at that position in the NFL who

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<v Speaker 2>are the elite makeup guys with just enough skill, whereas

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's been a lot of really talented

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<v Speaker 2>guys who didn't have the makeup that have fallen short.

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<v Speaker 3>That takes sense. I think it always. I think betting

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<v Speaker 3>on the person is what matters. I think betting on

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<v Speaker 3>the person because we've talked about this, I think Steve

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<v Speaker 3>Young use the example that we always go back, not

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<v Speaker 3>over my dead body, if you go get the right person.

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<v Speaker 3>DJ The one thing that I can live with I

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<v Speaker 3>can feel if I feel like the person that I trusted,

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<v Speaker 3>that I gave the ball has done everything in his

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<v Speaker 3>power to give us a chance to win. If he's

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<v Speaker 3>done everything and we're just not good enough, I can

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<v Speaker 3>be okay with it. But what bothers you is when

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<v Speaker 3>someone you know is talented enough to get it done,

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<v Speaker 3>but they lift so they leave stuff on the table

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<v Speaker 3>because they didn't work hard enough to get it done.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm always gonna bet on they don't give me

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<v Speaker 3>the I don't need the most talented guy. I need

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<v Speaker 3>the guy that has the elite traits and characteristics and

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<v Speaker 3>then work around it. I think that is something that

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<v Speaker 3>when we're looking at the position, man, it's more the

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<v Speaker 3>person than it is the player.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you a least give yourself a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you're not if you're not the right person,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not not the right makeup and all those things.

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<v Speaker 2>You you better be a freak show talent, like the

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<v Speaker 2>talent better be otherworldly and honestly, off the top of

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<v Speaker 2>my head, I can't even I can't even think of like,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you maybe you around farv Like I have

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<v Speaker 2>to go back and I'm saying we're not a bad guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying like it was like I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that Brett Farr was grinding tape.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I mean that's it. I mean Michael

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<v Speaker 3>Vick has acknowledged that he didn't work as hard as

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<v Speaker 3>he needed to work early in his career and then

0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.320
<v Speaker 3>he just played on talent. But but DJ, it's few

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<v Speaker 3>and far between the guys that can just roll the

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<v Speaker 3>balls out in a let's go play.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what, I mean, shoot, I'm about taking

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<v Speaker 2>shots at the guy. But obviously it was a very

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<v Speaker 2>public with Kyler Murray and him not putting in time there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, Kyler Murray's a good enough athlete to

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<v Speaker 2>be a top ten baseball pick, like.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's but that's exceptional talent. Yes, I mean exceptional

0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.000
<v Speaker 3>talent to make up for it. But I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>these are the best ones. Are the ones that it's

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<v Speaker 3>an obsession in terms of being good and being prepared

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<v Speaker 3>and knowing all the other things that you have to know.

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<v Speaker 3>And when we go through the process and we're interviewing

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<v Speaker 3>guys and we're asking them questions and we're giving them

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<v Speaker 3>installs and they're doing this and we're asking them to

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<v Speaker 3>articulate all of the things because I don't even know

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<v Speaker 3>if people truly understand how much the quarterback is tasked with.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just oh, let me just drop five steps

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<v Speaker 3>and throw it is. I got to manage the front.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to make sure all my guys know exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what they're doing. If I get discoveraged, I got to

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<v Speaker 3>check and everyone has to be on the same page.

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<v Speaker 3>Away from the field, I got to represent the organization

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<v Speaker 3>the right way. I got to be the leader and

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<v Speaker 3>the spokesperson of the team when it comes to hey,

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<v Speaker 3>the team feels this, I need you to go talk

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<v Speaker 3>to the coach. That's a lot of stuff and a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people that you got to talk to. And

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<v Speaker 3>so it's not only the leadership, the communication, the intelligence,

0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:59.840
<v Speaker 3>it's the work ethic, it's the professionalism, it's all of

0:21:59.880 --> 0:22:03.680
<v Speaker 3>that stuff. That's why that position is so hard to evaluate.

0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:05.919
<v Speaker 3>You have to check off so many boxes in so

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<v Speaker 3>many different areas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's I think it's just really smart,

0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:11.880
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's a lot easier to make mistakes

0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:13.920
<v Speaker 2>on that side of it. I think the football side

0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:16.800
<v Speaker 2>of it's a little easier. But man, it's you know,

0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:18.840
<v Speaker 2>you get the person right or wrong, it can have

0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:20.959
<v Speaker 2>a huge impact on what that guy is going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, hats off congrats to Brock Purty. The guy

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<v Speaker 2>was literally the last pick in the NFL draft and

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<v Speaker 2>just made himself into a two hundred and sixty five

0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:35.040
<v Speaker 2>million dollar quarterback. So that's that's commendable to what he's done.

0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:38.360
<v Speaker 2>We've never seen anything even close to that. Undrafted free

0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:41.520
<v Speaker 2>agents is different situation. This is the draft within that

0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:44.959
<v Speaker 2>draft parameters, I will go out and say that there

0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:47.080
<v Speaker 2>will never be another mister irrelevant who will sign a

0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:49.360
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and sixty five million dollar contract. I would

0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:51.720
<v Speaker 2>say the odds are heavily in the favor of that statement.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, never never seen. That's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty nuts. Right, take quick break, we come back book.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you've got some gas on what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota. I want to get to that right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Buck floor is yours. JJ McCarthy talk to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, look, DJ like there's a lot of conversation about

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 3>JJ McCarthy. Take it over to him. With the Minnesota Vikings,

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 3>I am an unabashed Minnesota Vikings fan when it comes

0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:25.640
<v Speaker 3>to how they put together their squad. I love the

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.960
<v Speaker 3>brain trust that they have up there. Koc who's a

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 3>friend of the program. Kevin McConnell does a great job

0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:33.960
<v Speaker 3>not only managing the entire operation, but he is a

0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 3>quarterback whisper who does a fantastic job of designing plays

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:40.920
<v Speaker 3>to create opportunities for their playmakers while making the game

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 3>very friendly. Brian Floyd is in their defense, And then

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:46.919
<v Speaker 3>I think about the person that upgrades that they've added

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:49.080
<v Speaker 3>this year, defense is much better than it's been in

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:51.399
<v Speaker 3>the past. So the only question that you have is

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 3>can JJ McCarthy get him up and going. And after

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:57.879
<v Speaker 3>watching Sam Donald, Sam Donald had thirteen games with a

0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:01.879
<v Speaker 3>passer rating over one hundred. Sam played at a remarkable level.

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:03.760
<v Speaker 3>And when you go back and look at the quarterbacks

0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:07.639
<v Speaker 3>that have played in Minnesota, first Kirk Cousins, then you

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.880
<v Speaker 3>finished with Sam Donold, they have all said have all

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 3>enjoyed a high level of success under Kevin O'Connell. I

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:16.399
<v Speaker 3>believe that continues, but I believe it continues in a

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 3>different way with JJ McCarthy. To me, JJ McCarthy is

0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:26.200
<v Speaker 3>more like an Alex Smith type quarterback, meaning he's talented enough,

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.720
<v Speaker 3>he's athletic enough to do a bunch of different things,

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 3>but he also understands how to play winning ball based

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 3>on what he did at Michigan. I think Kevin O'Connell

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 3>early is not going to give him all of that

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 3>and expect him to go win the game. I think

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.960
<v Speaker 3>he's going to set the other guys to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So if we talk about in our vernacular, he's going

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 3>to be a high end trailer. If he operates like

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 3>a high end trailer for the Minnesota Vikings where he

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:53.680
<v Speaker 3>lets the rest of the team carry him. The Minnesota

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 3>Vikings can win a ton of games, and then as

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:58.880
<v Speaker 3>he gets comfortable, maybe he shows some of the playmaking

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 3>ability at the end of his second year. I'm just

0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:04.439
<v Speaker 3>bullished at the combination of j. J. McCarthy's talent and

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Kevin O'Connell's play designs and overall management skills are going

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 3>to allow JJ McCarthy to be successful in his first

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:11.240
<v Speaker 3>year is bro.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get to that. And my reaction to that,

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.879
<v Speaker 2>But quick, did you see JJ at the sideline sitting

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:17.640
<v Speaker 2>courtside with.

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:20.240
<v Speaker 3>Justin Jefferson Jefferson?

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Did you see that jeff Steph Curry came up and

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 2>loved up Justin Jefferson, and I think he just thought

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 2>that was his buddy, that was the starting quarterback for

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 2>the Minnesota But I didn't even look at him. It's

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 2>like like JJ was kind of looking up at him.

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:38.439
<v Speaker 2>It's like like there's a couple of people that came

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:39.879
<v Speaker 2>over there too and tapped him up, and then like

0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 2>it was kind of like the lock eyes with with

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Jefferson handshake conversation and like the like then JJ McCarthy

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:49.120
<v Speaker 2>sticks his hand out and they're kind of like.

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 3>That, Yeah, I mean he looks, he looks, he looks

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 3>so young and such in every man when it comes

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 3>to it. But DJ, I think that might work in

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:05.680
<v Speaker 3>his favor. I just feel like from an ego standpoint one,

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 3>being a four or five star guy going to Michigan

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 3>knowing that you're not going to throw it all over

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 3>the yard, knowing that the only thing that matters for

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Jim Harbor you obviously have seen Harvor operate, the only

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 3>thing that matters as a school board, I want to win.

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm not about setting records and stats and all that.

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 3>I think that serves in Will going into Minnesota, where

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 3>the only thing that matters is to duve, I think

0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 3>he can put his ego in check to make sure

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:30.919
<v Speaker 3>that I'm just going to do the things that are

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 3>conducing to win.

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious to see. If you look at Minnesota and

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 2>who they have to get through, it's the Detroit Lions.

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 2>To me, I think Minnesota roster wise in really good shape.

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 2>And I would say if Jared Goff, let's say Jared Goff,

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:50.399
<v Speaker 2>like one hundred percent of Jared Golf, what percentage of

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Jared Goff. Does JJ McCarthy have to get to for

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:57.239
<v Speaker 2>them to be able to beat Detroit. I don't think

0:26:57.240 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 2>it's I don't think he has to be I think

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 2>they could get the Troit without him being level, which.

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 3>I think he can play. I think he can play

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:05.880
<v Speaker 3>at a B plus level provided that he doesn't turn

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 3>it over.

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 2>So eighty five percent, like eighty eight percent of Jared

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 2>go get it done for them.

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 3>I think I think he can do that. But look,

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 3>they're so good on the perimeter with the Addison Jefferson, Hopkinson,

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 3>Aaron Jones, upgraded offensive line. I mean he doesn't have to.

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying he doesn't have to do much, but

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 3>hey man, let's keep it simple. Get the ball to

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 3>the playmakers and let them go to work. If he

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 3>does that, they could operate because we know their defense

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 3>is going to get a bunch of splash plays. Sachs

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 3>internal was just the way that they play. They're going

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 3>to create easy scoring opportunities for them. It doesn't matter

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 3>him just cashing it in when he gets no chances.

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think back to when I was in Baltimore

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 2>young and we were in the office. We would always

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 2>do an off season project where we would rank all

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 2>the rosters, but then we would rank the groups. So

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 2>you would go by every team in the league and

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 2>say this was, you know, an A level offensive line,

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 2>say A through F, and you kind of went through

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:02.919
<v Speaker 2>and you start stacking it up, and then you started

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 2>really kind of seeing like, okay, man, if we've got

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 2>three A level B lines in our division and we've

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.400
<v Speaker 2>got a C level offensive line, like that ain't good?

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Man?

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Like you, you know what I mean? Like you kind

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:14.719
<v Speaker 2>of like what you needed to compete. And I think

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:17.919
<v Speaker 2>if you're Minnesota, that's who you're chasing is Detroit. So

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 2>it's like kind of how do we stack up? And

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 2>we stack up really well in a lot of other areas.

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 2>The great unknown is just the quarterback. So I don't

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:26.360
<v Speaker 2>think he has to be an elite player. I think

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 2>he has to be a really good player. So I

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 2>think we've stumbled on something we needed. Eighty seven eighty

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 2>eight percent Jared Goff is what we need out of.

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 3>J check and that's one and good enough. Man, that's

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 3>more enough to be able to get it get it done.

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of it will be how do

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 3>they get him ready to play the opener. How much

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 3>time do you give him in preseason because he has

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 3>seen a lot of live action. You know, he got

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 3>hurt in the preseason last year. How do they go

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 3>about that process of getting ready. I'm sure they'll have

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 3>some joint practices. They'll try and get some of that

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 3>done because of his control of the environment, but he

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 3>needs to see that game speed so he can quick

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 3>in his clock and get used to playing at an NFL.

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Level, no doubt. One last thing I want to get

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 2>to before we get out of here, because I don't

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 2>know if you watched any of golf, but Scott a Scheffer,

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 2>just chef that just won the PGA Tour, and I

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of read about him, and I followed golf loosely,

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 2>but I'm fascinated by him. I've seen some of the

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 2>stuff he's been and I've seen interviews. I started reading

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 2>about him a little bit and I was like, Okay,

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 2>the common theme that everybody has about this guy is

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 2>low heartbeat, like big moments, low heartbeat. So I started thinking, like,

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 2>to me, with Joe Montana is like the ultimate ultimate

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 2>low heartbeat. Even Tom Brady maybe the greatest of all time.

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't I wouldn't necessarily always classify. I think the

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 2>emotional impassionate, like just everything in check. Like emotionally, I'm

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 2>trying to think it was anybody else I'm missing, you know,

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 2>obviously Joe Montana was a long time ago. Who's a

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 2>recent version of someone just as calm in those big

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 2>moments as you could think.

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 3>Of, did you. I feel like Pat Mahomes is calm

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 3>in those moments, even though he's game has.

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Some there's a frenetic pace. But I think you're right

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 2>that moms never.

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 3>And I feel like in the playoffs he plays differently

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 3>than he plays in the regular season. Like we have

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 3>seen the script, Pat Mahomes is gonna run in the

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 3>playoffs when it's third and seven and you go to

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 3>man and you leave it open. He's gonna scramble when

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 3>they need him to orchestrate a drive at the end

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 3>of the game. He does it time and time again.

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 3>To me, he has that. I think Joe Burrow also

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 3>has that, Like they don't they're not. And I'm gonna

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 3>say this, I don't know if I want my quarterback

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 3>overly emotional, because it's such a cerebral position that you

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 3>not that you're like no emotion at all. But you

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 3>talk about that low heartbeat. In those competitive moments, you

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 3>have to be able to think and process and make

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 3>good decisions. And to me, it's really hard to make

0:30:56.000 --> 0:31:00.040
<v Speaker 3>great decisions if you're overly emotional about the outcome that

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 3>as the result of whatever you choose to do.

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. I think you're right. I think Mahomes is

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 2>the right answer there. And it is like there can

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 2>be some crazy in the middle early portion of the game.

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I've seen it up close so many

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 2>times when it is money down, when it is fourth down,

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 2>third downs, key downs laden games, he's able to just

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 2>see it slowed, the game slows down. I'm gonna take

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 2>this for my little eight yard run here to convert this,

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take my little I can put a bunch

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 2>of air under this because I got a guy in

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 2>a trail position like he makes the right decision, the

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 2>right throw, the right run and our darner every single time.

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 3>And the reason why I'll say I'll see him. But

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 3>I also say Joe Burrow because I think it also

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 3>extends beyond the game. It is in the midst of

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 3>a bad season, it's in the midst of a two

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 3>or three game losing streak. How does that guy come

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 3>out the next game because all of a sudden he

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 3>had abandoned the things that they've done and go on

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 3>his own and go rogue and try to make all

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 3>the plays by himself. Or does he put it on

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 3>himself that, hey, look, we got to execute better. That

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 3>means I have to be better. And me being better

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 3>isn't me making more hero throws, but it's hey, maybe

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 3>I need to sit back and go back to doing

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 3>the basics. Let me take the check down, let me

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 3>take the little thing, let me get back to connecting

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 3>the dots and then the big plays that happened to me.

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 3>When we talk about low heartbeat, it's also a confidence,

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 3>a composure, a poise that is needed to be able

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 3>to bring the team back. And to that point, I

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 3>kind of want to include Matthew Stafford in there only because, man,

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 3>we've seen the rams the last two years DJ. They

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 3>have not started out well, but they kind of figured out.

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 3>He gets them together or whatever. And then when we

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 3>saw him in the super Bowl, biggest moment, he handled DJ.

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<v Speaker 3>He threw a no look. He threw a no look

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<v Speaker 3>past I mean a no look dime in a critical

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 3>moment to help this team win the Super Bowl. He

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<v Speaker 3>certainly exhibits some of that.

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<v Speaker 2>They were talking about Scheffler in that tournament and they said,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there were I don't know what the holes were,

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen fifty something like that, but they were the gettable holes,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're the holes you can score on. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody else in the tournament, like it was a

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<v Speaker 2>birdie here or there, but just kind of like just

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<v Speaker 2>what they said, he was like birdies and eagles, like

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<v Speaker 2>he he cashed those in. And I was thinking about

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 2>it from a football standpoint of and maybe you have

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 2>a recollection to this on you know, having played versus

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 2>having you know, spent your time upstairs, but you haven't

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 2>a game plan. There's two shots, like we get these,

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 2>we get this. Look, we have this play call. In

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 2>a game of sixty plays, we have two times they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna give us what we want and we're going to

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 2>call this play. We have got to capitalize when we

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 2>get those moments. And I thought that was how he

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<v Speaker 2>won the golf tournament the way they were describing it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know a lot about golf, but it's like, hey,

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 2>those are the getable holes. He got them every single round.

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 2>And I was thinking about games like, I'm sure you've

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 2>been on teams like, man, we schemed this up all week.

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 2>We got to look in freck We just we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get it. We didn't cash it in.

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<v Speaker 3>Did just one of the biggest frustrations that I think

0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 3>coaches have because you don't get to look twice. Always

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 3>felt like this, and this is like Tom Brady, the

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:04.719
<v Speaker 3>one thing that we always could talk about Tom Brady.

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 3>Tom Brady always cast a lottery ticket like you, if

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<v Speaker 3>you mess it up and you give him the lottery ticket,

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 3>where's powerball? And he can go get it? Ding ding ding.

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<v Speaker 3>He's always going to get it. And the great quarterbacks

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 3>they make you pay for your mistakes. And whether that's

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 3>the low heartbeat, the composure, or just the moment, the

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 3>great ones make you pay every time you mess up.

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 3>And that's what separates the good from the elites.

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<v Speaker 2>I just was thinking about thinking about the way they

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<v Speaker 2>describe that. The first name that pop into my head

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 2>was Super Bowl Jimmy Garoppolo. Was it Emmanuel Sanders?

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Is that who it was? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Like that has to keep Kyle Shanahan up at night,

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 2>like you can dream, you dream for that look and.

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<v Speaker 3>Look we all have like friends in that building. And

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.720
<v Speaker 3>that was some of the frustration that Kyle Shanahan had,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like as a guy who is like an

0:34:55.640 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 3>obsessed and obsessive play designer, he would go crazy like

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 3>these guys would be wide open and all you got

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:05.879
<v Speaker 3>to do is cash, I mean cashing in. Like think

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 3>about the amount of times dead Lane Kiffin has drawn

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.760
<v Speaker 3>up winners where like they showed a look and before

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 3>the ball is even like the arms are up. That's

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 3>what those guys know. And so they want someone who

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:24.359
<v Speaker 3>can cash the ticket. And it is maybe we don't

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 3>talk about enough when it comes to quarterback play, but

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 3>that that's really what it is is can you can

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 3>you make the layup? Can you make the lip? When

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 3>the lab is there? Wide open lane? Put the ball

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<v Speaker 3>off the square?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. By the way, as we're wrapping this thing up,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've had this before, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to go get this place for lunch ahead At

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 2>the other day, they now I guess they have these

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 2>like you know, it started with Subway. It was like

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of you build your own sandwich because people don't.

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 2>People aren't old like us, don't know. You just have

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 2>to go to a store and get a sandwich. Like

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 2>you say, what goes on a sandwich? Yeah?

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, no, no, you didn't get the subway.

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 2>That led to like Chipotle. Okay, we're going to do

0:35:57.480 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 2>the same thing, but with Mexican. Yeah. Then it was

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 2>like all the pizza place places like Blaze people whatever

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<v Speaker 2>we can. Now you can do your build your java.

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<v Speaker 2>We got medice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh DUDEU there's a Pokey place here. You get a

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Pokey bowl and you can customize what all goes on.

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Look at you, I mean, I'm just I'm like, why

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't I think of this? This is this is going

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:20.320
<v Speaker 2>to change the world. It's gonna change the world. What's next?

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Is there any other kind of food? Like obviously like

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 2>you can get Asian food like they've been doing that for.

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<v Speaker 3>You.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know what you can build your own anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've done it all. I think Pokey is.

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<v Speaker 3>The last one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's it. That's it. Well, that's wrong with one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hungry. I'm gonna go eat. I appreciate you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>hang with us. We'll see you next. Time right here

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<v Speaker 2>on moving sticks,