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Speaker 3: Nothing? DJ, just getting ready for it. You know how

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's a good point. Let's start right there.

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Speaker 3: Little man. I think sometimes DJ the best thing that

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Speaker 2: three to seven. You're ready, Yeah. Competitiveness, Oh, he's a

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Speaker 3: Seven and so here is where scouting is tricky, I

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Speaker 3: talent to make up for it. But I mean, honestly,

430
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Speaker 3: these are the best ones. Are the ones that it's

431
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 3: an obsession in terms of being good and being prepared

432
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 3: and knowing all the other things that you have to know.

433
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 3: And when we go through the process and we're interviewing

434
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 3: guys and we're asking them questions and we're giving them

435
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 3: installs and they're doing this and we're asking them to

436
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 3: articulate all of the things because I don't even know

437
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 3: if people truly understand how much the quarterback is tasked with.

438
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 3: It's not just oh, let me just drop five steps

439
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,959
Speaker 3: and throw it is. I got to manage the front.

440
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,400
Speaker 3: I got to make sure all my guys know exactly

441
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 3: what they're doing. If I get discoveraged, I got to

442
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 3: check and everyone has to be on the same page.

443
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 3: Away from the field, I got to represent the organization

444
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 3: the right way. I got to be the leader and

445
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 3: the spokesperson of the team when it comes to hey,

446
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 3: the team feels this, I need you to go talk

447
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 3: to the coach. That's a lot of stuff and a

448
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 3: lot of people that you got to talk to. And

449
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 3: so it's not only the leadership, the communication, the intelligence,

450
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 3: it's the work ethic, it's the professionalism, it's all of

451
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 3: that stuff. That's why that position is so hard to evaluate.

452
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 3: You have to check off so many boxes in so

453
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 3: many different areas.

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I think it's just really smart,

455
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 2: and I think it's a lot easier to make mistakes

456
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 2: on that side of it. I think the football side

457
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 2: of it's a little easier. But man, it's you know,

458
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: you get the person right or wrong, it can have

459
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,959
Speaker 2: a huge impact on what that guy is going to be.

460
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: But hey, hats off congrats to Brock Purty. The guy

461
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,719
Speaker 2: was literally the last pick in the NFL draft and

462
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: just made himself into a two hundred and sixty five

463
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: million dollar quarterback. So that's that's commendable to what he's done.

464
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 2: We've never seen anything even close to that. Undrafted free

465
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: agents is different situation. This is the draft within that

466
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,959
Speaker 2: draft parameters, I will go out and say that there

467
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: will never be another mister irrelevant who will sign a

468
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,360
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty five million dollar contract. I would

469
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 2: say the odds are heavily in the favor of that statement.

470
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, never never seen. That's unbelievable.

471
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty nuts. Right, take quick break, we come back book.

472
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Speaker 2: I know you've got some gas on what's going on

473
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. I want to get to that right after this.

474
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 2: All right, Buck floor is yours. JJ McCarthy talk to me.

475
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Speaker 3: Hey, look, DJ like there's a lot of conversation about

476
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Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy. Take it over to him. With the Minnesota Vikings,

477
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Speaker 3: I am an unabashed Minnesota Vikings fan when it comes

478
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Speaker 3: to how they put together their squad. I love the

479
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: brain trust that they have up there. Koc who's a

480
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: friend of the program. Kevin McConnell does a great job

481
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 3: not only managing the entire operation, but he is a

482
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 3: quarterback whisper who does a fantastic job of designing plays

483
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 3: to create opportunities for their playmakers while making the game

484
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 3: very friendly. Brian Floyd is in their defense, And then

485
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 3: I think about the person that upgrades that they've added

486
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 3: this year, defense is much better than it's been in

487
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 3: the past. So the only question that you have is

488
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 3: can JJ McCarthy get him up and going. And after

489
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 3: watching Sam Donald, Sam Donald had thirteen games with a

490
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 3: passer rating over one hundred. Sam played at a remarkable level.

491
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 3: And when you go back and look at the quarterbacks

492
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 3: that have played in Minnesota, first Kirk Cousins, then you

493
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 3: finished with Sam Donold, they have all said have all

494
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: enjoyed a high level of success under Kevin O'Connell. I

495
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 3: believe that continues, but I believe it continues in a

496
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 3: different way with JJ McCarthy. To me, JJ McCarthy is

497
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: more like an Alex Smith type quarterback, meaning he's talented enough,

498
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 3: he's athletic enough to do a bunch of different things,

499
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: but he also understands how to play winning ball based

500
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 3: on what he did at Michigan. I think Kevin O'Connell

501
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 3: early is not going to give him all of that

502
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 3: and expect him to go win the game. I think

503
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 3: he's going to set the other guys to do it.

504
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 3: So if we talk about in our vernacular, he's going

505
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 3: to be a high end trailer. If he operates like

506
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 3: a high end trailer for the Minnesota Vikings where he

507
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 3: lets the rest of the team carry him. The Minnesota

508
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 3: Vikings can win a ton of games, and then as

509
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 3: he gets comfortable, maybe he shows some of the playmaking

510
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 3: ability at the end of his second year. I'm just

511
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 3: bullished at the combination of j. J. McCarthy's talent and

512
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell's play designs and overall management skills are going

513
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 3: to allow JJ McCarthy to be successful in his first

514
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: year is bro.

515
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: I want to get to that. And my reaction to that,

516
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: But quick, did you see JJ at the sideline sitting

517
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 2: courtside with.

518
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson Jefferson?

519
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: Did you see that jeff Steph Curry came up and

520
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: loved up Justin Jefferson, and I think he just thought

521
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: that was his buddy, that was the starting quarterback for

522
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: the Minnesota But I didn't even look at him. It's

523
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: like like JJ was kind of looking up at him.

524
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 2: It's like like there's a couple of people that came

525
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 2: over there too and tapped him up, and then like

526
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: it was kind of like the lock eyes with with

527
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: Jefferson handshake conversation and like the like then JJ McCarthy

528
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 2: sticks his hand out and they're kind of like.

529
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Speaker 3: That, Yeah, I mean he looks, he looks, he looks

530
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 3: so young and such in every man when it comes

531
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: to it. But DJ, I think that might work in

532
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 3: his favor. I just feel like from an ego standpoint one,

533
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 3: being a four or five star guy going to Michigan

534
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: knowing that you're not going to throw it all over

535
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 3: the yard, knowing that the only thing that matters for

536
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 3: Jim Harbor you obviously have seen Harvor operate, the only

537
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 3: thing that matters as a school board, I want to win.

538
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: I'm not about setting records and stats and all that.

539
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: I think that serves in Will going into Minnesota, where

540
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: the only thing that matters is to duve, I think

541
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 3: he can put his ego in check to make sure

542
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 3: that I'm just going to do the things that are

543
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: conducing to win.

544
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Speaker 2: I'm curious to see. If you look at Minnesota and

545
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: who they have to get through, it's the Detroit Lions.

546
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 2: To me, I think Minnesota roster wise in really good shape.

547
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: And I would say if Jared Goff, let's say Jared Goff,

548
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: like one hundred percent of Jared Golf, what percentage of

549
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: Jared Goff. Does JJ McCarthy have to get to for

550
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,239
Speaker 2: them to be able to beat Detroit. I don't think

551
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: it's I don't think he has to be I think

552
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: they could get the Troit without him being level, which.

553
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: I think he can play. I think he can play

554
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 3: at a B plus level provided that he doesn't turn

555
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 3: it over.

556
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 2: So eighty five percent, like eighty eight percent of Jared

557
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: go get it done for them.

558
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 3: I think I think he can do that. But look,

559
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: they're so good on the perimeter with the Addison Jefferson, Hopkinson,

560
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 3: Aaron Jones, upgraded offensive line. I mean he doesn't have to.

561
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he doesn't have to do much, but

562
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: hey man, let's keep it simple. Get the ball to

563
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 3: the playmakers and let them go to work. If he

564
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: does that, they could operate because we know their defense

565
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: is going to get a bunch of splash plays. Sachs

566
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: internal was just the way that they play. They're going

567
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 3: to create easy scoring opportunities for them. It doesn't matter

568
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: him just cashing it in when he gets no chances.

569
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think back to when I was in Baltimore

570
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: young and we were in the office. We would always

571
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: do an off season project where we would rank all

572
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: the rosters, but then we would rank the groups. So

573
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: you would go by every team in the league and

574
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: say this was, you know, an A level offensive line,

575
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: say A through F, and you kind of went through

576
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 2: and you start stacking it up, and then you started

577
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: really kind of seeing like, okay, man, if we've got

578
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: three A level B lines in our division and we've

579
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 2: got a C level offensive line, like that ain't good?

580
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 3: Man?

581
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: Like you, you know what I mean? Like you kind

582
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 2: of like what you needed to compete. And I think

583
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 2: if you're Minnesota, that's who you're chasing is Detroit. So

584
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: it's like kind of how do we stack up? And

585
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: we stack up really well in a lot of other areas.

586
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: The great unknown is just the quarterback. So I don't

587
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 2: think he has to be an elite player. I think

588
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: he has to be a really good player. So I

589
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: think we've stumbled on something we needed. Eighty seven eighty

590
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: eight percent Jared Goff is what we need out of.

591
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: J check and that's one and good enough. Man, that's

592
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: more enough to be able to get it get it done.

593
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it will be how do

594
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: they get him ready to play the opener. How much

595
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: time do you give him in preseason because he has

596
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 3: seen a lot of live action. You know, he got

597
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: hurt in the preseason last year. How do they go

598
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: about that process of getting ready. I'm sure they'll have

599
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: some joint practices. They'll try and get some of that

600
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: done because of his control of the environment, but he

601
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: needs to see that game speed so he can quick

602
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: in his clock and get used to playing at an NFL.

603
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: Level, no doubt. One last thing I want to get

604
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: to before we get out of here, because I don't

605
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: know if you watched any of golf, but Scott a Scheffer,

606
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: just chef that just won the PGA Tour, and I

607
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: kind of read about him, and I followed golf loosely,

608
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: but I'm fascinated by him. I've seen some of the

609
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: stuff he's been and I've seen interviews. I started reading

610
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: about him a little bit and I was like, Okay,

611
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: the common theme that everybody has about this guy is

612
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: low heartbeat, like big moments, low heartbeat. So I started thinking, like,

613
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: to me, with Joe Montana is like the ultimate ultimate

614
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: low heartbeat. Even Tom Brady maybe the greatest of all time.

615
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: I don't I wouldn't necessarily always classify. I think the

616
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: emotional impassionate, like just everything in check. Like emotionally, I'm

617
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: trying to think it was anybody else I'm missing, you know,

618
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: obviously Joe Montana was a long time ago. Who's a

619
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: recent version of someone just as calm in those big

620
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: moments as you could think.

621
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Speaker 3: Of, did you. I feel like Pat Mahomes is calm

622
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 3: in those moments, even though he's game has.

623
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: Some there's a frenetic pace. But I think you're right

624
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: that moms never.

625
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: And I feel like in the playoffs he plays differently

626
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: than he plays in the regular season. Like we have

627
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 3: seen the script, Pat Mahomes is gonna run in the

628
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: playoffs when it's third and seven and you go to

629
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: man and you leave it open. He's gonna scramble when

630
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: they need him to orchestrate a drive at the end

631
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: of the game. He does it time and time again.

632
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: To me, he has that. I think Joe Burrow also

633
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: has that, Like they don't they're not. And I'm gonna

634
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: say this, I don't know if I want my quarterback

635
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 3: overly emotional, because it's such a cerebral position that you

636
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 3: not that you're like no emotion at all. But you

637
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: talk about that low heartbeat. In those competitive moments, you

638
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 3: have to be able to think and process and make

639
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: good decisions. And to me, it's really hard to make

640
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 3: great decisions if you're overly emotional about the outcome that

641
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: as the result of whatever you choose to do.

642
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: That's interesting. I think you're right. I think Mahomes is

643
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: the right answer there. And it is like there can

644
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: be some crazy in the middle early portion of the game.

645
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: But I mean, I've seen it up close so many

646
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: times when it is money down, when it is fourth down,

647
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: third downs, key downs laden games, he's able to just

648
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: see it slowed, the game slows down. I'm gonna take

649
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: this for my little eight yard run here to convert this,

650
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take my little I can put a bunch

651
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: of air under this because I got a guy in

652
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: a trail position like he makes the right decision, the

653
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: right throw, the right run and our darner every single time.

654
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: And the reason why I'll say I'll see him. But

655
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: I also say Joe Burrow because I think it also

656
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: extends beyond the game. It is in the midst of

657
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: a bad season, it's in the midst of a two

658
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: or three game losing streak. How does that guy come

659
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: out the next game because all of a sudden he

660
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: had abandoned the things that they've done and go on

661
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: his own and go rogue and try to make all

662
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: the plays by himself. Or does he put it on

663
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: himself that, hey, look, we got to execute better. That

664
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: means I have to be better. And me being better

665
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: isn't me making more hero throws, but it's hey, maybe

666
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: I need to sit back and go back to doing

667
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: the basics. Let me take the check down, let me

668
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: take the little thing, let me get back to connecting

669
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: the dots and then the big plays that happened to me.

670
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 3: When we talk about low heartbeat, it's also a confidence,

671
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: a composure, a poise that is needed to be able

672
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: to bring the team back. And to that point, I

673
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: kind of want to include Matthew Stafford in there only because, man,

674
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: we've seen the rams the last two years DJ. They

675
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: have not started out well, but they kind of figured out.

676
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: He gets them together or whatever. And then when we

677
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 3: saw him in the super Bowl, biggest moment, he handled DJ.

678
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: He threw a no look. He threw a no look

679
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: past I mean a no look dime in a critical

680
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: moment to help this team win the Super Bowl. He

681
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: certainly exhibits some of that.

682
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: They were talking about Scheffler in that tournament and they said,

683
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: I think there were I don't know what the holes were,

684
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty something like that, but they were the gettable holes,

685
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: like they're the holes you can score on. And it's

686
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: like everybody else in the tournament, like it was a

687
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: birdie here or there, but just kind of like just

688
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: what they said, he was like birdies and eagles, like

689
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: he he cashed those in. And I was thinking about

690
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: it from a football standpoint of and maybe you have

691
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: a recollection to this on you know, having played versus

692
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: having you know, spent your time upstairs, but you haven't

693
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: a game plan. There's two shots, like we get these,

694
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: we get this. Look, we have this play call. In

695
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: a game of sixty plays, we have two times they're

696
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: gonna give us what we want and we're going to

697
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: call this play. We have got to capitalize when we

698
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: get those moments. And I thought that was how he

699
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: won the golf tournament the way they were describing it, right,

700
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: Like I don't know a lot about golf, but it's like, hey,

701
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: those are the getable holes. He got them every single round.

702
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: And I was thinking about games like, I'm sure you've

703
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: been on teams like, man, we schemed this up all week.

704
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: We got to look in freck We just we didn't

705
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: get it. We didn't cash it in.

706
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: Did just one of the biggest frustrations that I think

707
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 3: coaches have because you don't get to look twice. Always

708
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: felt like this, and this is like Tom Brady, the

709
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 3: one thing that we always could talk about Tom Brady.

710
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: Tom Brady always cast a lottery ticket like you, if

711
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 3: you mess it up and you give him the lottery ticket,

712
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: where's powerball? And he can go get it? Ding ding ding.

713
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: He's always going to get it. And the great quarterbacks

714
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 3: they make you pay for your mistakes. And whether that's

715
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: the low heartbeat, the composure, or just the moment, the

716
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: great ones make you pay every time you mess up.

717
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: And that's what separates the good from the elites.

718
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: I just was thinking about thinking about the way they

719
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: describe that. The first name that pop into my head

720
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: was Super Bowl Jimmy Garoppolo. Was it Emmanuel Sanders?

721
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: Is that who it was? Yes?

722
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: Like that has to keep Kyle Shanahan up at night,

723
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: like you can dream, you dream for that look and.

724
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: Look we all have like friends in that building. And

725
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 3: that was some of the frustration that Kyle Shanahan had,

726
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 3: you know, like as a guy who is like an

727
00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 3: obsessed and obsessive play designer, he would go crazy like

728
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: these guys would be wide open and all you got

729
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 3: to do is cash, I mean cashing in. Like think

730
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 3: about the amount of times dead Lane Kiffin has drawn

731
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 3: up winners where like they showed a look and before

732
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: the ball is even like the arms are up. That's

733
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 3: what those guys know. And so they want someone who

734
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 3: can cash the ticket. And it is maybe we don't

735
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: talk about enough when it comes to quarterback play, but

736
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: that that's really what it is is can you can

737
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: you make the layup? Can you make the lip? When

738
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: the lab is there? Wide open lane? Put the ball

739
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: off the square?

740
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: Yep. By the way, as we're wrapping this thing up,

741
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've had this before, but I'm

742
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 2: going to go get this place for lunch ahead At

743
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: the other day, they now I guess they have these

744
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: like you know, it started with Subway. It was like

745
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: kind of you build your own sandwich because people don't.

746
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: People aren't old like us, don't know. You just have

747
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: to go to a store and get a sandwich. Like

748
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: you say, what goes on a sandwich? Yeah?

749
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, you didn't get the subway.

750
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: That led to like Chipotle. Okay, we're going to do

751
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: the same thing, but with Mexican. Yeah. Then it was

752
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: like all the pizza place places like Blaze people whatever

753
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: we can. Now you can do your build your java.

754
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 2: We got medice.

755
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

756
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: Oh DUDEU there's a Pokey place here. You get a

757
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: Pokey bowl and you can customize what all goes on.

758
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: Look at you, I mean, I'm just I'm like, why

759
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: didn't I think of this? This is this is going

760
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 2: to change the world. It's gonna change the world. What's next?

761
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: Is there any other kind of food? Like obviously like

762
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: you can get Asian food like they've been doing that for.

763
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: You.

764
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 2: But I don't know what you can build your own anymore.

765
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: I think we've done it all. I think Pokey is.

766
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 3: The last one.

767
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: I think that's it. That's it. Well, that's wrong with one.

768
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: I'm hungry. I'm gonna go eat. I appreciate you guys,

769
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: hang with us. We'll see you next. Time right here

770
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: on moving sticks,