1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it's Lyle. How's it going. Before we start 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: the show, I want to let you guys know that 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: if you live in the Pacific Northwest San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: or Minneapolis, I am coming to your town next week 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: to do my Therapy Gecko Live show. These shows are 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: a very good time. They are a combination of uh, 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, doing what we do here on this podcast, 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: where we bring people up on stage, we do a 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: little group Gecko therapy, and it's also a storytelling show. 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: I've been living my life. I went to Iraq, i 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: went to Ukraine. I've been you know, doing a bunch 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: of interesting, cool stuff and I've written about it. I've performed, 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, created some material about it that I'm very 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: excited to present to you guys. So please get a 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: ticket and come to the show. I'd love to see it. 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: June fourth, San Francisco, Swedish American Hall, June fifth, Portland, 17 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: Polaris Hall, June sixth, Seattle at the Crocodile, June seventh, 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: in Vancouver at the Biltimore Cabaret. June ninth in Minneapolis 19 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: at the Parkway Theater. You can get tickets to all 20 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: those dates, and I also have many other dates that 21 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm doing this month and August and September, I'm going 22 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: all over the place. It's just next week I'm going 23 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: to the Pacific Northwest. So I wanted to shout out 24 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: those shows in particular. You can get tickets to all 25 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: of these shows at Therapy Gecko tour dot com. So 26 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 1: if you haven't gotten a ticket yet, you should come 27 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: to the shows cuz they'll be fun. All right, let's 28 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: get into the episode. 29 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: Hello, Oh my god, it's the Gecko. 30 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: What's up? Man? What's your name? 31 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: My name is Riley, Riley? 32 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: What's going on Riley's life? 33 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's it's ever changing. 34 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: It is ever changing. It is ever changing as much 35 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: as ever. 36 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: But but it's good. It's like really good. I would 37 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: I would say it's good. Yeah, it's ever like super 38 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: really good. But like right now, it's good. 39 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: So what is it that you wanted to talk about today? 40 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Like, uh, I don't know. A 41 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: long time listener of the show, a big fan. I've 42 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: been dealing with a lot of existentialism over the past 43 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: couple of weeks, which has been like interesting because like 44 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: I'm I'm twenty eight. My ten year high school reunions 45 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: this year. I'm currently starting school over going to paramedic school, 46 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: which is like, I don't know, it's weird because like 47 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: ten years ago that I that was my goal to 48 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 2: start ten years ago, and now I'm doing it now. 49 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: And then also I like look at people who also 50 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: graduated school like ten years ago and like where they're 51 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: at in life, and I cannot like jealous or like 52 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: feel bad about where I'm at in life. It just 53 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: is just it's just weird. You know. Does that make sense? Yeah? 54 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: You know what's funny. I had a dude, I don't 55 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: know what it is. I saw some like I don't know, 56 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: I don't know why I saw it, but I was 57 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: like looking at the linked in profile of this kid 58 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: that I had art class with when I was in 59 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: middle school, and he and I would like draw dicks 60 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: on the textbooks together, you know, and we would like 61 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: there was I think there was this girl that we 62 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: both liked and we were just trying to like get 63 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: a rise out of her by drawing dicks on the 64 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: on the textbooks and stuff and fright, and he was 65 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: just like a silly kid, right, And I was looking 66 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: as LinkedIn and he's like a fucking real estate agent guy, now, 67 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: you know. And I was looking at him and he 68 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: has any of these looks like a real guy. He's 69 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: got a suit, you know, he's like and all and 70 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: the essence of like just us drawing those dicks on 71 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: the textbooks, It's like, gone, it's like that guy is 72 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: you know, where is he? Where'd he go? It just 73 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: gave me a weird feeling. Yeah, it gave me. It 74 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: gave me a weird feeling. Is that is that sort 75 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: of the feeling you're getting where you're like, I'm not 76 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: jealous of these people. It's just interesting seeing where everyone everyone, 77 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: everyone wound up in a place. 78 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I know I think that's I think 79 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: I think I'm finally at the age where I'm like 80 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: realizing that I'm not like a young adult anymore and 81 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: I'm more of an adult. Like there's like there's a 82 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: there's a definite like change of when you go from 83 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: like you move out and you're figuring it out and 84 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: then like and then all of a sudden, you're just 85 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: that's your life. And I feel like I'm at that 86 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: point too. I think part of that too, is I've 87 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: recently gotten sober. Oh, and I've had like a lot 88 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: of like self reflection on that. 89 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: What's that? 90 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: Like, it's it's cool, it's cool to be sober. I 91 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: was a drinker and now I'm not. And I haven't 92 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: really done it like in like other stuff I do, 93 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: like trooms and weeds, but I don't like getting stoned 94 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: like not, I don't get anxiety or I don't know, 95 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: it's not as cool as it was when I was 96 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: in high school. I think, like fucking weed is like 97 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: I get bored easily, or I just like don't enjoy it. 98 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: So I just yeah, it's been like sober for as 99 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: long as I've been sober, since I was like eighteen. 100 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: So what inspired you to What inspired you to get sober? 101 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: My wife, that's why you feel like an adult. You 102 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: have a you have a wife. 103 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah that but yeah, I mean, I mean I don't know, 104 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 2: like I never really had a drinking problem per se. 105 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: Then like two years ago my uncle died and I 106 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: just kind of set me off the deep end when 107 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 2: I just progressively got worse and worse and worse, and 108 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: it was like it took a huge toll on my 109 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: mental health and that took a huge toll on my 110 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: wife's mental health, and so that was like step number 111 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: one was just like you know, trying to be happy 112 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: in my life and my marriage and getting sober was 113 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: the way to do that. And I don't regret it, 114 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: and I'm like constantly every day is cool. And I 115 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: was listening to a podcast the other day, the bomb 116 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: Hole podcast, the snowboarding podcast, and the host of it 117 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: got sober and his like his talks and sobriety kind 118 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: of is what like started spinning, like spending the gears 119 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: in my brain without getting sober because he would talk 120 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: about it and it was very it hit close to home, 121 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: like like when he was drinking and like when he 122 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: was doing drugs. Yeah, and so getting sober is been 123 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: really good. I had. I did have to relearn how 124 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: to snowboard and mountain bike though, which is interesting. 125 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: How did you have to Why did you have to 126 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: relearn how to do it? Did you only know how 127 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: to do it when you were drunk? 128 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: No? No, I wasn't. Like it's just it's different, like 129 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: because like like because mountain biking is like it's a 130 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: very social part of like drinking is a very like 131 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: heavy part of it, like not like a bad way, 132 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: but there's a lot of like we're gonna go for 133 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: a mountain bike ride and then we're gonna go go 134 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: to a brewery and listen and like and drink beer. 135 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: We're gonna go to a rest, go to the happy 136 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: hour afterwards, and you know, or you'd have a beer beforehand. 137 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: So it was just kind of like a tool to 138 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: get ready to drink beer. H and so then like 139 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: I'd finished a mountain bike ride or a road ride 140 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: and be like, okay, now what I do. I'm not 141 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: getting deer and then snowboarding and then snowboarding like you'd 142 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: start the day sober and then I progressively drink more 143 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: throughout the day, trying to find the threshold of like 144 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: where I'm the best at the sport and so like that, 145 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: like you got looser and the confidence was a lot more. 146 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: So this is like my first year snowboarding sober, and 147 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: it was it was like a lot different because it 148 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: felt a lot more linear, like snowboarding throughout the day 149 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: of like you know, I you know, wake you know, 150 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: warm up, take a drink, have a beer, have a 151 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: shoot or whatever, do another lap, like kind of past 152 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 2: yourself off that, whereas without drinking, you're just like, oh, 153 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: I just gotta just kind of stay in that headspace 154 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: all day because it kind of like it was like 155 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: a cheat code. You drink and then you go and 156 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: then you just be like where you want it to 157 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: be performance wise. Snowboarding. Mmm. 158 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's like you had to relearn it in 159 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: the sense that it's for you in activity that is 160 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: deeply tied to drinking. 161 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, is that like those activities are deeply 162 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: tied to drinking and not that I couldn't do them 163 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: without drinking. It's just it's learning how to do them 164 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: and not it's like unpavlopping yourself. 165 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally totally. I'm trying to think what I 166 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: have that way. I mean I have that with uh, 167 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: I have that with smoking weed and everything. Uh not 168 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: Like I mean a lot of people have that right 169 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: where they're like, Oh, I'm gonna go to the grocery store, 170 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: let me smoke weed beforehand. Oh cool, we're gonna go 171 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: see them this movie. Let me get blasted beforehand. I've 172 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: had periods of time in my life where I was like, 173 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: anytime I'm not working, I'm high, you know. Like it 174 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: was just yeah, it's like yeah, dude. And also I 175 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: feel that with dude, all all of my fucking like 176 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: addictions and ship, I feel that way about Like. 177 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: That was me with like beer, like like last year. 178 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 2: Last year, I'd be like, oh, my wife would be 179 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: at work and I'd be done for the day and 180 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: I'd be like, well, I want to watch Edie time. 181 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,479 Speaker 2: I need to watch with a six pack. 182 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: Right right right? Yeah you got Yeah, it's true. You 183 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: got to Unpavla of yourself. 184 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got unpavlov myself, which is like it was. 185 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: It's been cool. It's seven months as of tomorrow tomorrow 186 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: is seven months sober, and that's like, uh and that's 187 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: a that's a cool a cool feat And I met 188 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 2: I met one of my heroes snowboarding who's also sober 189 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: at him at five months and he told me that 190 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: was the hardest, the hardest time. And it feels like 191 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 2: it's gotten easier every day and then I could take 192 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: away and have on the variety too. Is like being 193 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 2: sober isn't what's hard? Like staying fucked up all day 194 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: is hard, Like financially and like mentally of well, where's 195 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: the money going? To go to buy a bottle of tequila? 196 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: Where's the money coming from to buy you know, a 197 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: six pack of night to watch Adventure Time? And like, 198 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 2: or how do I how do I stay fucked up 199 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: and people not realize I'm fucked up? Oh? 200 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: The Yeah, the being fucked up is the hard part. 201 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: And the staying that's a that's a fac that's a 202 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: fascinating reframing. That's a fascinating reframing. 203 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 204 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's like it is hard to get sober, 205 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: like that is true, but it is easier to stay 206 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 2: sober than it is to stay fucked up. 207 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: Dude. You know what, Dude, give me some fucking therapy, 208 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: because I'm at a point I'm at a point right 209 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: now where I'm like, I'm so i feel like I'm 210 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: in a crazy the feedback loop of my addictions that 211 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: I can't escape from. Like you know, you know how 212 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: it is what you're like, every every day you go, yeah, 213 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: every day, every day you go, today's a day, and 214 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: then every night you go, Tomorrow's the day, and it's 215 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: just just and then it dude, it's the existential shit. 216 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: If you're just like, well fuck it, every fucking day 217 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: is fucking today. You know, it's just it's so hard. 218 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: I don't even how to like get like I don't 219 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: even know how to get out of that like kind 220 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: of rat race of it. 221 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: You know, Oh no, because I've been there too before, 222 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: because I like I like danced around the idea of sobriety, 223 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: and like I kind of like grew up around sobriety too, 224 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: because my parents both met an A and so like 225 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: my entire life was like I'm gonna be better than 226 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: my parents. I'm never going to be an addict, and 227 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: then here here I am in the same boat. But 228 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: it's like I don't know, it's like hard, It's like 229 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: a hard thing. I would do the same thing of 230 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: like Okay, I'm done, I've done drinking, Like this is 231 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: gonna be my last drink. And then I go to 232 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: work and I hated my job or I was just 233 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: overwhelmed by like existing, and I was like, you know what, tomorrow, 234 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: tomorrow is a better day to quit drinking. And then 235 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: like tomorrow never came for like three years, yeah, and 236 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: then like one day it finally it clicked. And for me, 237 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: it kind of like took getting closer to a rock bottom. 238 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: And I don't want to say, like, I think it's 239 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: disingenuine to say the only way to get sober is 240 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: to be at a rock bottom. And I think it 241 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: really depends on like the type of person you are, 242 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: Like for me, it took getting close to rock bottom 243 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: to get sober, but for other people, like other ways 244 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: to like frame it too, is like for your health right, 245 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: Like it's like, well, I don't want to feel like 246 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: shit anymore, and like the moment I stopped doing this, 247 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: I can, uh sorry, I can stop feeling a little 248 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: less shitty. And then another thing too, is like finding 249 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: something to replace it, like healthily. Yeah, like uh, I 250 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: want Like when I first quit drinking, I really just 251 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: wanted to drink, So anytime I would drink, I would 252 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: I'd go on a mountain bike ride or I'd go 253 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: on a road ride. And I kind of helped too, 254 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: like I was like, well, ah, but well, I can't 255 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: sit at home. I'm too tempted. I can't go out 256 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: so too tempted. So then they go do something I enjoy. 257 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: And I've known people who like they uh, decide to 258 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: quit something and they need to keep their hands busy, 259 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: so they got like a small craft going like I 260 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: know someone who started knitting because they wanted to get sober. 261 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: M hm uh, and so like that's that's something that 262 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: like I've looked into as well, Like it never worked 263 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: for me because I have ADHD and I just get 264 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: distracted by all the small little projects, right, I can't 265 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: like have like a craft's hobby like knitting or sewing 266 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: or making something just because I get so like, well, 267 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: I can do it bigger and better and do this 268 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: thing next, and I like lose all the all the 269 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: steam for it because something else caught my eye. 270 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to be Uh, it's hard to do 271 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: several things when you got this young ADHD. 272 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. So but yeah, that's where I'm at, like seven 273 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: months sober in paramedic school, which is like I'm really 274 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: excited for congrats men, and uh yeah, just living in 275 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: southwest Colorado and like the worst year to live in 276 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: southwest Colorado. 277 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: Why is it the worst year to live in southwest Colorado? 278 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: Oh? We had a terrible snow path. Like I'm so 279 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: afraid of everything around us catching on fire. We had 280 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: like one like when I first moved here in twenty twenty, 281 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: like we had snow on the ground from October to 282 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: till April. This winter, we didn't have snow on the 283 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: ground until I got back from a job in California, 284 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 2: and then we had snow on the ground for like 285 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 2: into in duran in Duringo Colorado, where I lived like 286 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: maybe two weeks maybe, and that was in like February, 287 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 2: and then like a little bit in March, and then 288 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 2: come April, like everything in town was dry. We could, 289 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: we could. There's really no point in the year. If 290 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: stott on Viking it was like really bad. But we 291 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: already hit peak river flow for the year, like two 292 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: weeks to go, so the river's not gonna get any 293 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: high unless we get rain. So this is not a 294 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: that it's bad weather. You're living south with Colorado. 295 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 1: Well, I should say, you sound like you know a 296 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: lot about the weather, and I respect that. 297 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: I I mean when you like when like I love snowboarding, 298 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: I got maybe forty days this year and sixty days 299 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: last year, like last season. And so when you're like 300 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: looking at how the how that snowfall for like affects 301 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 2: your like how the weather affects your like one of 302 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: your favorite sports. When your entire sport is like weather depended, 303 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: you got you kind of gotta and it's. 304 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: Like, how does. 305 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: How's that? 306 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: How's that guys Sean White doing? I bought a I 307 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: played his Wii game that you know back in the 308 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: days on textbooks. 309 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, now I remember that game. Now. Sean White's like 310 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 2: a cool guy in the space. Uh. He's doing a 311 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: lot and a little for the snowboarding community at the 312 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: time right now. Like he no, he doesn't have an NFT, 313 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: but he he started his own snowboard apparel and snowboard brand, 314 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 2: and then he sponsors like a little dude who lives 315 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: in Tell Your Ride. He's like absolute ripper, like some 316 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: ten year old kid who's like better a snowbere than 317 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 2: I'll ever be. And then he started a competition called 318 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: the snow League, which is pretty cool. It's like another 319 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: another contest space for half type snowboarders, which is good. Yeah, 320 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: he's like he's finally getting getting back in there and 321 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: like helping help him advance the snowboard community. 322 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, man, I've never snowboarded before because I no, no, 323 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: I like, I don't like the fact that your feet 324 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: are clamped to the board, you know what I mean? 325 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: I like, I like, I like, I like this freedom 326 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: of skateboarding. I'm always afraid I'm gonna like like, like 327 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: I like skateboarding. It feels like anytime you're on the skateboard, 328 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: you can go back to you the option to walk 329 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: is right there, you know what I mean. There's nothing 330 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: between you and changing your method of travel from skateboarding 331 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: to walking. But with the snowboard, it's like your ass 332 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: is snowboarding, and if you want to change from snowboarding 333 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: to walking, there was a there's a procedure, you know. 334 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: I don't like having a procedure between me and walking. 335 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 2: No, that's that's super fair. And I kind of like 336 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: I have like the opposite when I skateboard. Every time 337 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: I go skateboarding, I get like super frustrated because I'll 338 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: be trying to drop into a bowl and it's no 339 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 2: near a step or as deep as a half pipe 340 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 2: like the local half pipe at our local ski resort. 341 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: And I'll do that all the time, do that, go 342 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 2: and switch going regular But on a on a skateboard, 343 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: I just sometimes a mental I can't and I like 344 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: be thinking like it'd be so much better if my 345 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: feet were just strapped to the thing right now. 346 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, Yeah, sometimes when I'm working at my desk, 347 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: my ADHD makes me want to go, you know, leave 348 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: the room and get a snack or get high or 349 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, do whatever. And it would be easier if 350 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: my feet were strapped to the ground. That's how I 351 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: feel about those things. And the most things in life 352 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: would be easier to do if you had your feet 353 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: strapped to them. What's your name again? 354 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: My name is Riley? 355 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: Riley, right, that's about By the way, that's such a 356 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: name of a skateboard of a snowboarding guy. Riley. 357 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, Riley of the Year, Riley. 358 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 359 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go? 360 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: No, that's it. Thanks for thanks for answering, of. 361 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: Course, thank you, Riley. 362 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: Uh. 363 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: Good luck with your continued sobriety. You've inspired me. Maybe 364 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: tomorrow I'll stop eating cosmic brownies for breakfast every day. 365 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: That's those are so good, I understand. 366 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: That's the problem with That's the problem with food addiction 367 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: is it's so funny. It's like hilleous, like I'm being 368 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: serious and it's so funny. 369 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: No. I know I'm there too, because I have, like, 370 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 2: since since quitting drinking, I've treated the want for alcohol 371 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 2: to like sugar. 372 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: But you know what's funny is is like we're also 373 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 1: like conditioned, like the like when I was a kid, 374 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: I would have the hot fudge Sunday pop tarts and 375 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: we're like we've been we've been conditioned to believe that, 376 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: like that's a breakfast. 377 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, I yeah, I that that happened to me. 378 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 4: I was like, I need, I need a better breakfast. 379 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: I'm tired of oatmeal and I want something. 380 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: Healthy pop tarts. Pop charts are healthy. 381 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: They're not they're not at all. They're terrible for you, 382 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: but they're so good. Thanks rather, I'll see around the universe. 383 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 2: Man, all right, thank you Jack. 384 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: That was Riley, right, is a good fucking guy. 385 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: I love. 386 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: I love one of the things I like about this podcast. Man, 387 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: just meet a guy like Riley and you're like, damn, 388 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: there's just a chill ass dude in the world somewhere. 389 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. How much Sunday ones are good. The 390 00:23:54,680 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: rug Rats Go Wild had a wild strawberry pop tart 391 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: with the characters on them back in two thousand and something. Someone, 392 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: how do we get those? How do I get my? 393 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: I want someone get how do I get my hands 394 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 1: on a box of two thousand and four rug Rats 395 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: Go Wild movie promotional pop tarts. Someone let me know 396 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: if they have leads on that. 397 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, is this therapy got go? 398 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: Yes? Hi? Who is this? 399 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 5: Bro? You can call me. 400 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 6: Jerry? 401 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: Jerry? Oh my god, you texted me and you said, 402 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: what the hell has been going on with the podcast? 403 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: Okay? 404 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 6: Yes, okay, So you've been getting a lot of like 405 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 6: weird calls on the podcast, like like weirder than normal 406 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 6: and not like not like weird and like oh some 407 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 6: and has this like long, like strange story to tell 408 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 6: you know, it's kind of more so like it's just 409 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 6: like unexpected shit has been happening. 410 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: Okay, And. 411 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, how do you feel about that? 412 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. This podcast has been going 413 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: for six years. There is nothing I can't I can't 414 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: even kind of think of what you're talking about that 415 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: is different than what it normally is. 416 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I guess my like examples would be, like, okay, 417 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 6: like the Jose Guy that was weird, right, everyone thought 418 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 6: that was like kind of obscure and everybody had different 419 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 6: opinions about it. But I think it's so different. 420 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 2: It's so. 421 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: Ever, dude, why did that jose call cause such a stir? 422 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: It's so funny to me, it. 423 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 2: Was like, well, I think. 424 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 6: I think it's because you put him on the two minute. 425 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: Hold, right, like okay. 426 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 6: I think a lot of people were kind of just 427 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 6: like what the hell, because I know, personally, like I've 428 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 6: been listening to for like pretty much since like the pandemic, 429 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 6: and I think it was just like something that like, personally, 430 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 6: I was taken back by and I think some people 431 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 6: would probably agree with, like, oh my god, ly'll just 432 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 6: put this guy on a week on timeout and like. 433 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: It wasn't a timeout, it was just a too it 434 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: was it. It was okay, I was trying. Here's the 435 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: why I had him sitting at two minute signs with 436 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: us is because he was coming into this phone call 437 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: with a certain way that he wanted to be, or 438 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: a certain way he wanted it to go, and he 439 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: was clinging so deeply to that idea that I he 440 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: wasn't letting me have a conversation with him. However, he 441 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: was in that moment, and so I was like, all right, 442 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm and I was I was like, I don't, I 443 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: are on my end. I will refuse to cling to 444 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: the idea that a podcast should even be, that this 445 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: conversation should be I'm gonna refuse to cling to the 446 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: idea that this conversation should be anything, and I'm gonna 447 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: sit in two minutes of silence. And so once those 448 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: two minutes of silence happened, it was like all bets 449 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: are off as to what this conversation should or shouldn't 450 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: or could or couldn't be. That's why I was trying 451 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: to illustrate. 452 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean like I understood that part too, because 453 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 6: like it was just it was kind of a wacky 454 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 6: phone call, you know, Like obviously I've been listening for 455 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 6: a long time. I've heard some like crazy phone calls, 456 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 6: but that one was just kind of like whoa, Like, 457 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 6: what the hell is even happening? And like I think 458 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 6: every other second, like me and my partner are listening 459 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 6: to it, and we like we were just like jaw 460 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 6: dropped like every other second because like we didn't know 461 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 6: what we were expecting. And I don't think, like, like 462 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 6: you said, there is not like uh direction necessarily, but 463 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 6: like we were both just like what the hell is 464 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 6: even going on right now? 465 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: Dude? 466 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: I have this thought I have this thing of you know, 467 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: you go ahead, if you have more to say, I 468 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to hear it. 469 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 6: No, I was just gonna say like it was almost 470 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 6: kind of like in the same way like I can't 471 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 6: remember if you've ever said if you've done like acid 472 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 6: or anything like that, but it's kind of like when 473 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 6: you're stuck in like us psych a delic loop. That's 474 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 6: like just kind of what it felt like listening to it. 475 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: Dude, I want to do more stuff like that. I 476 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: I know after that podcast episode. After that episode in particular, 477 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: I was like, I have this thing where I was like, 478 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: I should fuck up this podcast more. I should release 479 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: an episode where it's just me saying the for yeah 480 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: for an hour. 481 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 7: The yeah, absolutely, the the you know what I mean, 482 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 7: because I already I'm at this thing where I'm like, 483 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 7: I've again, It's like I already know. 484 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: What having a normal conversation feels like. So the only 485 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: way to evolve is to just start doing wacky, dumb bullshit. 486 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: But then but then that's that's me sort of, I guess, 487 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: surrendering to this idea that I've heard all the stories, 488 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: that they're already here, and that's not that that is 489 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: not true, of course, as we're constantly making new people. 490 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: There's infinite people I've never spoken to. But I have 491 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: that inclination to just be like, you know what, let 492 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: me just let me interview a tree for an hour. 493 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: You know what, Fuck this show, I'm gonna interview a 494 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: fucking tree for an hour. 495 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 6: Wait. You should do something like that. You know how 496 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 6: they have like the little there's like clips and they 497 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 6: are I don't know what exactly it's called, but it's 498 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 6: like how they make plan music and they like clip 499 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 6: these little things. Yeah, yeah, you should do that and 500 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 6: like see like what it's what it does when you're 501 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 6: like talking to it. 502 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: There's this guy actually, you know it's funny. I feel 503 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: like I've already done. I feel like this idea has 504 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: been done before. There's this guy, Dan Henschel. He's a 505 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 1: very funny. 506 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 4: Uh. 507 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: I guess we could call him a content creator. 508 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 509 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: He makes this He made this YouTube video where it's 510 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: like I think it's like challenging. He's like holding he's 511 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: in he films all his videos in his car, and 512 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: he's like in his car and he's like he's holding 513 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: a gourd and he's like challenging myself to talk about 514 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: this gourd for an hour, and I'm like, that's see, 515 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: that's genius, that's fun, that's just like creative. You know 516 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: that's cool. I mean, I like it's nice also to 517 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: do a thing that's grounded in reality. But I don't know, 518 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: have you ever felt like you were you're like stuck 519 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: inside you, like stuck as yourself? You ever felt that way? 520 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 6: Like what do you mean? 521 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: Okay, see you see you haven't. 522 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 6: Oh well do you mean like do you mean like 523 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 6: stuck like in a like like I couldn't like veer 524 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 6: off my like path that I've beaten to, like change. 525 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: A sort of sorry or just that like you know, 526 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: you are who you like. Some had some you like 527 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: little faith in your ability to I guess I don't 528 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: know change or whatever. Wait, what's your name again? 529 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 6: I've been going by Jerry and Jerry. 530 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jerry, what's going on in your life? 531 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 6: So funny you ask? I was actually not supposed to 532 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 6: get like stuck on the phone with you at all today, 533 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 6: Like that was not my plan. I actually had to 534 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 6: go drive door to ash and make money today. But 535 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 6: this is infinitely better. I'm gonna have all night to 536 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 6: do that. But yeah, I'm I'm going camping this weekend 537 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 6: with some friends. 538 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 3: Cool. 539 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 6: I'm going on an Alaskan cruise like a week after that, 540 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 6: which is kind of insane. But other than that, I 541 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 6: hit my job and I'm trying to figure out new 542 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 6: uh employment And that has been the pinnacle of my 543 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 6: life right now is how to survive? 544 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: Is your job doing door dash? 545 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 6: Sometimes I have I am like doing a couple of 546 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 6: different things. I work a retail job as like a stalker, 547 00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 6: and then I also work at like an office. But 548 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 6: I hate those two situations that I'm in. So I 549 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 6: then driving for DoorDash, which is like getting so difficult 550 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 6: because gas is so expensive. 551 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, so yeah, yeah. 552 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: I can imagine that the profit for that is kind 553 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: of tough. 554 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 6: Well, I think a lot of people who order DoorDash, 555 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 6: because I know I didn't before like driving for DoorDash, 556 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 6: I don't think they realize that DoorDash does not pay you. 557 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 6: You only make the tip that you give. 558 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: Is that true? Doda paid, you only get paid the tip. 559 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 6: You only get paid the tip. So like what if 560 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 6: I'm like, if you tip someone three dollars and the 561 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 6: restaurant you order from is like seven miles away. They're 562 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 6: only making like you know, not even a dollar per 563 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 6: mile that they drive, and like not to mention the 564 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 6: time that you spend on doing that. 565 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: That's so fucking crazy. I hate that. I fucking hate 566 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: the way that, Like I don't know, it's like, dude, 567 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: one of the what is the fucking company just like 568 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: pay the fun like tipping. Tipping in general is so 569 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: like annoying, Like I love what like when you go 570 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: to like uh like Europe and Asia and stuff, they 571 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: just don't have it because like all the companies, like, 572 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's just so we all the companies like 573 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 1: kind of you know, like actually like pay the wage 574 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: instead of like making the consumer pay the wage. It's 575 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: kind of fucked up crazy. 576 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean you would think like a company 577 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 6: like DoorDash too, like they tack on so many like 578 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 6: extra fees and things like that to your order that 579 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 6: like part of that would go to the dasher. But no, 580 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 6: like sometimes they have uh like incentives, but I haven't 581 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 6: gotten like a notifications or an incentive in a while, 582 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 6: aside from like oh this area is super busy, you 583 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 6: might make like one extra dollar per delivery. But but 584 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 6: that's it. 585 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: What do you think you're gonna do after the store 586 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: dash gig? 587 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 6: Oh you know, I've been asking myself that for months now, 588 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 6: and it has been so like like get end to me. 589 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 6: I guess I don't know. I had like a career 590 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 6: for like ten years like a while ago, and then 591 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 6: I like stopped doing that, and then it was just 592 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 6: kind of like in and out of like retail type stuff. 593 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 6: But it's so like soul fucking to me, and like 594 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 6: I know, I am like I can be a higher 595 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 6: valued employee in some way somewhere, especially with like my 596 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 6: office experience. Realistically, I kind of want like a work 597 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 6: from home situation because I love to travel and just 598 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 6: like have some type of sweedom and autonomy. 599 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: What was your Uh you said you had a career. 600 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: What was your career? 601 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 6: I was a professional body piercer for ten years. 602 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: Oh shit, how come you don't do that? 603 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: That's like a whole nother. 604 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 6: Messed up like story. 605 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 5: But like basically there's just a. 606 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 6: Lot of like internal drama in the professional body piercing 607 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 6: realm and community and like people aren't very nice to 608 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 6: each other, and like not that that should matter a 609 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 6: whole lot, but it really does, because a lot of 610 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 6: it is like word of mouth. 611 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: I feel like that should I feel like that should 612 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: totally matter. I feel like, yeah, I mean if that's 613 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: like that the universe, if the universe that you're being 614 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: a part of is like a generally unkind universe, then yeah, 615 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: that makes sense. 616 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just really like toxic, and I mean I 617 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 6: think the last couple of years it's been getting a 618 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 6: little bit better, but like there's just a lot of 619 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 6: like there's a lot of like uh like essay. 620 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 8: And like abuse not necessarily always physical, and like harassment and. 621 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 6: Things like that. And there's like a new generation versus 622 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 6: like an old generation type of vibe and like people 623 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 6: not being held accountable for certain things and people still 624 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 6: like supporting them. So it's kind of like just a 625 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 6: lot of moving pieces that like I'm more than like 626 00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 6: good like stepping away from you know, can't you? 627 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: Is there is there a thing you can like go 628 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: independent on though? Or you or is that do you 629 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: need too many like licenses? 630 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 6: It depends on where you're at, but it's certainly something 631 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 6: you can be independent on. But it's, like I said, 632 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 6: it's hard to like, it's hard to not be part 633 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 6: of the community because it's a lot of word of mouth, 634 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 6: and if you're like independent, it's just like any small business, 635 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 6: like if you're like a hairstylist or something like that, 636 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 6: where it's like you kind of have to build up 637 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 6: your own clientele. And it's also just like not a great, 638 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 6: uh like industry to be in at the moment because 639 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 6: it is like a luxury service, so people aren't really 640 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 6: wanting to spend that money, and plus like the cost 641 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 6: of jewelry and shit, it's just not like it's not 642 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 6: the same as it I was like when I was 643 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 6: doing it, because I stopped like maybe like I don't know, 644 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 6: it's like four years ago, ish. 645 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, So it's. 646 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 6: Just like kind of more of a pain than like, yeah, 647 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 6: I was also pretty burnt out, so like I just 648 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 6: don't think I would ever go back to it, but 649 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 6: I would like some type of creative job that is 650 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 6: maybe weird from home. But if it's not creative, then 651 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 6: it's just kind of like as long as I'm making 652 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 6: money and I'm not. 653 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: Dreading working, well, I believe in you. I don't know, 654 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's a tough it's a tough world, 655 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: but but I believe in you. I believe in you. 656 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 2: Jerry. 657 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to other people? 658 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, Matt, thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm 659 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: trying to believe in me. I'm trying to believe in me. 660 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: We can believe in each other and fly off in 661 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: out or space together, man, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, thank you 662 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: for sharing. 663 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 2: Jerry. 664 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 1: Is there anything you want to say to the people 665 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: of the computer before we go? 666 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 6: I but can I ask you one question? 667 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 668 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 2: Well? 669 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: Wait is the question the thing you want to say? 670 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 6: No? 671 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 2: No? 672 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you have two things? 673 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 6: Two things? 674 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 2: Yes, sure, okay. 675 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 6: So my partner and I were sitting in the car 676 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 6: the other day listening to you, and they turned to 677 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 6: me and say, do you think Lyle Ever gets lonely? 678 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 6: I said, I'm pretty sure Lyle has mentioned being lonely 679 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 6: on the podcast, not that that's a funny thing, but 680 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 6: it was just like, like, I've heard you speak about 681 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 6: things like this, But how are you? Are you lonely? 682 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 2: Are you? 683 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: What was? Can I all right? Let me what was 684 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 1: happening at the in the podcast at the time when 685 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: that person, when you're your partner said that. 686 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 6: What podcasts were we listening. 687 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: Well, I want to know the exact to give me. 688 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 1: I want to know the podcast and the time code. 689 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: When when he said that, so I can give that 690 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: to my therapist, go ahead? When was it? 691 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 6: Oh? Okay, it was the girl you're talking to about. 692 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 6: And she kept saying she wanted papers, and she kept 693 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 6: she her husband was sexting a Nigerian. 694 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, and she had. 695 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,240 Speaker 6: An affair with her coworker. And I don't know what 696 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 6: you were like actually saying in the podcast because I 697 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 6: was driving, I was kind of zoning out a little 698 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 6: bit because the whole episode was a little crazy. But yes, 699 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 6: that was just like what we're listening to. 700 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 1: What about that made made him? Made him feel like 701 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: I was lonely? 702 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 6: What makes wait? Can I put you on the phone 703 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 6: with him? 704 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:50,280 Speaker 1: Sure? 705 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 2: Okay, here, Hello, what's up? Hey? Whatever? Geck? 706 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: What what about that podcast made you feel like I 707 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: was lonely? 708 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 2: You know? 709 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 3: It wasn't like necessarily that podcast. I just we were 710 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 3: on like a string of like crazy episodes, and like, 711 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 3: you know, like I just thought of, like you talk 712 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 3: to so many people and get like all walks of 713 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 3: you know, like all perspectives and like situations and just 714 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 3: like you know, are exposed to all that, and maybe 715 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,959 Speaker 3: it's not like you're forming like relationships with these people 716 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 3: or friendships necessarily, but it's just like you know it, 717 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 3: I for like, I guess people like me, you know, 718 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 3: I see a bunch of people every day, you know, strangers, 719 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 3: and don't have any sort of like interaction other than 720 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 3: you know, high at the most. 721 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 2: You know. 722 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 3: So I just was just wondering, like, does that, like 723 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 3: do you ever get like lonely even though you know 724 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 3: you talk to so many people you know, from all 725 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 3: over everywhere. 726 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: Well, the I mean the relationship I have, I have 727 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: multiple answers to that question. Well, the relationship I have 728 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 1: with like like callers on this show and the context 729 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: in which I am having these conversations for a recorded 730 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: podcast is like it's very like it's a very separate 731 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: thing from my like actual personal life, except in some instance. 732 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: Except that there's been like some instances, mainly when I 733 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: make my little documentaries like like uh like fucking like uh, 734 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: the guy that I walked across Japan with like that, 735 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:50,919 Speaker 1: like he became my actual friend, you know, the dude 736 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: I went to the guys, I went to Ukraine and Iraq, 737 00:43:54,719 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: with like those guys are like my actual friends, you know. 738 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 1: But I don't, like, I don't this is this feels 739 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,919 Speaker 1: like recording this podcast. It doesn't feel like I'm it's 740 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: a it's kind of a different paradigm because it's like, 741 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: I guess, working, so it's not like I'm socializing in 742 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: this same way like when you're like interviewing people or 743 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: doing like especially like I guess it'd be different if 744 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: I was, like it's if it's different when I'm doing 745 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: it over the phone, then when I'm over the like 746 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 1: when I when I do like in when I do 747 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: like in person ship, it feels like I'm socializing. When 748 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: I do it over the phone, it feels like a 749 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 1: kind of like a different specific thing. But to answer 750 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,720 Speaker 1: your question, I'm actually not. I actually was extremely lonely 751 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: for like a few years. I was actually streaming lonely 752 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 1: for many years, and then recently I'm actually not lonely 753 00:44:54,840 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: at all, because I mean, it's the shit that I 754 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: keep talking about in the podcast about like find the 755 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: community of people and like be a part of it. 756 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: So that way, you like, you know, like you have 757 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: a place, like like I found a place that I 758 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: can like show up at every day and there's like 759 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: people there, and so I'm like truly, like ninety percent 760 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: less lonely than I have been in the past. 761 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 762 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, if that answers your question. 763 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you know, I just I was just curious. 764 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 3: I guess that makes sense, you know, like it's a 765 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 3: whole different experience, especially the talking over the phone part. 766 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 3: But well, like what about when you do like live shows, 767 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 3: you know, do you like, oh those are does that 768 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 3: sort of scratch the same itch in the sense of 769 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 3: like that you know, socializing an interaction that you do 770 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 3: with like the documentaries. 771 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, I like being like it's anything having to 772 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,359 Speaker 1: do with like being in person is very different from 773 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 1: like being over the phone, you know. Yeah, like I 774 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: get a lie, I get I get a lot of 775 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: energy from that. But I also like, I'm very I'm 776 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: very uh, I'm very I'm extroverted in like a super 777 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 1: particular way. Like my dream, like I love, like I 778 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: my dream social scenario or truly my dream mode of 779 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: existence is to be like constantly surrounded by people that 780 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: I don't have to talk to. That's why I love 781 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: That's why I love New York. Like I'm constantly surrounding 782 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: people I don't or like or my fam Like if 783 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm at a party and I'm in a my favorite 784 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: social situation I've said this for a bunch of times 785 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: about my favorite social situation. I'm at a party. I'm 786 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: in a circle with some people I know, and enough 787 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 1: people in the circle are talking that I don't have 788 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: to fucking talk and I could just be about I'm like, 789 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm a part of the circle. I'm in the scene. 790 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: I can talk if I want to, uh, but I 791 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: don't have to talk to anyone. Worst social situation I'm 792 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: at a party talking one on one with just some guy. 793 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 1: That's the worst. I fucking hate that. Even if they're 794 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: like and the worst party, actually this makes it Even 795 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: if they're like really nice and cool, that actually makes 796 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,760 Speaker 1: it worse. I would rather like I would I would 797 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 1: like be if I'm at a party and I'm talking 798 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 1: to some guy and he's a fucking asshole and he 799 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: like wants to fight. Like, that's so much better than 800 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 1: if I'm talking to a guy and he's like a 801 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 1: nice guy, because then I have that takes so much 802 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 1: more energy to entertain, you know what I mean. Yeah, Like, 803 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,439 Speaker 1: if you're talking like if a guy's like, oh that's 804 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: cool man. Also like you know, like do you like 805 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 1: the city like or even if or even if like 806 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: you know, like I like, you know what I mean, 807 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: just like a nice cool guy, I fucking would I 808 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: uh uh give me a give me a depressed guy. 809 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,240 Speaker 1: I could talk to a depressed guy at a party 810 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 1: one on one pretty good or like uh yeah, sure sure, 811 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: or like if I'm at a or a funny guy, 812 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: like if I'm talking to a guy and he starts 813 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: like doing act outs you know what I mean, and 814 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: he goes like, oh, I'm gonna get like you know 815 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,919 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like when a guy's like doing act outs, 816 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: I have no I have no tolerance for that. I 817 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 1: can't talk, like when someone I can't tolerate a jokes jokes. 818 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 1: I know that sounds crazy, but like, uh, like, if 819 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 1: you're gonna try to be funny, just do it in 820 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 1: It's like when people try to be when people try 821 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 1: to be funny in a way where it's like if 822 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,399 Speaker 1: you don't laugh, it feels weird. But I like when 823 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 1: people are being funny. Yeah, well, I like when people 824 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 1: are funny because they're being like real, you know, like 825 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: if someone. 826 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 3: Just laugh naturally, you know, yeah, he. 827 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 1: Just laugh naturally. Like if someone's like, uh uh, how 828 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 1: do I say this? If someone's like if like if 829 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: I like, if I'm not talking to a guy at 830 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 1: a party and and I'm like, hey, man, how you 831 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: doing and he's like, I feel fucked up? Man, I 832 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 1: ate fifty pop tarts today, I'd be like, nice, that's funny, 833 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: that's real. That's I thank you for sharing that with me. 834 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 1: But if a guy, but if a guy is like, 835 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: uh doing a bit where I'm like, oh, how do 836 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,760 Speaker 1: you know the host of the party, and he goes, oh, yeah, 837 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: me and Brian, Uh we're married. No, I'm just kidding. 838 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I don't care about your life at all. 839 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 3: That's pretty horrible. 840 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like around. 841 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,919 Speaker 3: Because you got to give like a half laugh. 842 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate that shit. I can't do it. 843 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty real. 844 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: Fuck that is a long rant. But yeah, sometimes I 845 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: like I like being alone around people. I like when 846 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 1: I'm around a lot of people, I don't have to 847 00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 1: talk to any of them. That's my dream. 848 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 3: I resonate with that because you still feel part of 849 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 3: it and there's no real expectations sometimes socializing art. 850 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I like I like it. I like 851 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 1: the people. At my worst days, I'll be going insane 852 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,399 Speaker 1: in my apartment and then I'll just like talk to someone. 853 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh, I just needed to. You can't 854 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 1: tether like other people are the only real thing that 855 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:31,800 Speaker 1: you have. You're like a being of like profound conscious 856 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 1: I mean this spiritually, but also like on a very 857 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 1: grounded level. You're a being of deep profound consciousness. And 858 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: so if you're just that like as a human, you're 859 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: a being of profound consciousness. And if you're just kind 860 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: of like alone wallowing in the pool of your own 861 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: profound consciousness, you are like a fucking astronaut spinning around 862 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: in space. You're tethered to nothing. Your reality is that 863 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 1: you have to peer review your reality with other beings 864 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: of profound consciousness in order to prevent you from going 865 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,319 Speaker 1: insane with your own profound consciousness. You gotta like other 866 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: human beings are the only thing. Maybe a dog, but 867 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 1: even a dog, it's like, I mean, a dog, a 868 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: dog is a being of of of profound consciousness, you know, 869 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 1: in comparison to like a leaf or a table or whatever. 870 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, but They're not going to give you a 871 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 3: reality check. 872 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 1: No, you know behavior, Yeah, you need a constant you 873 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: need to constantly have your real your reality checked by 874 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: other beings of profound consciousness or else you just fucking 875 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:54,840 Speaker 1: just go insane. 876 00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:00,919 Speaker 3: So yeah, that that you just to fi in your head. 877 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 3: That and you just push everybody away at that point 878 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 3: because you know, not good stuff. 879 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 1: What's your name again? We had a whole I had 880 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 1: a whole separate conversation with you. 881 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 3: I feel now, well you talk to Jerry and I'm Barry. 882 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: Barry Barry. 883 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 884 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 1: Are you lonely? 885 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 4: No, you know, not really. 886 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 3: I've like gone through stages in my life of feeling 887 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:39,359 Speaker 3: pretty isolated and lonely. But I mean in the same way, 888 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 3: it's kind of like just interacting with people. I mean, 889 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,240 Speaker 3: like you said, like like being part of the circle 890 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 3: is just kind of sometimes all you need. Like I 891 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,800 Speaker 3: like me and my partner, Like we go to the 892 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 3: mall sometimes, and I like being at the mall, not 893 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 3: just because like shopping, but just because there's like other 894 00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 3: people with like families, and like are someone with their 895 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 3: partner or like someone's you know, like I like people watching. 896 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,760 Speaker 3: It just makes you feel part of like the circle, 897 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 3: you know, So just going out and like, you know, 898 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 3: not to sting cooped up in my room has very 899 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 3: much just sort of helped me just feel part of 900 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 3: the circle. 901 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 1: Barry, is there anything else you want to say to 902 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,319 Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go? 903 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 4: Uh? 904 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,280 Speaker 3: Do you want to talk to Jerry again? 905 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 2: No? 906 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: I think I'm I think I'm gonna move on. 907 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:34,879 Speaker 2: But we're here. 908 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I mean. 909 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 1: If they want to say if they oh wait, they 910 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 1: had a second thing they oh wait, yeah, he'll wait. Okay, 911 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,880 Speaker 1: now I'm hold on. Now I'm remembering. Now I'm remembering. 912 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, let me give you the Jerry. Here's here's here's Jerry, 913 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 3: Jerry speaking. 914 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: Okay, you had a question for me, and then I 915 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 1: turned that into a whole thing. But then you also 916 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 1: had a thing you wanted to say. So what was 917 00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 1: the thing you wanted to say? 918 00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 2: Oh? 919 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 6: No, no, I just wanted to say my people to 920 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:01,439 Speaker 6: the computer part? 921 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:02,399 Speaker 2: Yeah? 922 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:08,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, please Okay, first of all, don't litter, and second, 923 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 5: be so nice to animals because they don't do nothing 924 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 5: wrong here. 925 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 6: And third, please follow my uh in my skincare and 926 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:24,760 Speaker 6: makeup Instagram account. It is at totality of them cool. 927 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 8: That's that. 928 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you, Jerry, thank you. 929 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,399 Speaker 1: Did Barry I have anything you want to say at all? 930 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 1: Did Barry? 931 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:35,439 Speaker 6: Last word? 932 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:35,840 Speaker 4: Barry? 933 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 6: With your mouth? With your mouth here. 934 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 3: Be kind swag? 935 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 1: Thank you Barry, thank you, Jerry, thank you. I'll see 936 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 1: you guys around the universe. 937 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:50,879 Speaker 2: All right. 938 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 3: I love you, dude. 939 00:54:52,400 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 1: Thanks man, See you guys, Deck Bless. Hello everyone, what's up. 940 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 1: It's Lyle and I am going to end the podcast 941 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 1: today by doing something I feel like I haven't done 942 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 1: in a while, which is read a gek mail. That's 943 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 1: where I'm going to read a gek mail. Maybe a 944 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 1: second gek mail, but I'm gonna start with one. I 945 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 1: don't want to I'd rather read one and see how 946 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 1: I feel and promise two. I'm gonna keep reading one 947 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,799 Speaker 1: and seeing how I feel and then we'll go from there. 948 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,959 Speaker 1: But yeah, gek mail, it's a thing where people send 949 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:45,280 Speaker 1: me emails with whatever they want to talk about and 950 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,839 Speaker 1: then we talk about it. You can send a gak 951 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 1: mail to Therapy gecko mail at gmail dot com. Other 952 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 1: than that, let's read some Let's read some gek mails. Okay, 953 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: this is Chris uh oh. This is from Chris, it's 954 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 1: an update update starting a bay Blade community in my city. Okay, 955 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 1: let's see. Oh, okay, I remember the Okay, this guy 956 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 1: emailed me. Okay, I'm gonna read his first email. Well 957 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: he heard me. He there's a few emails he said. Okay, basically, 958 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 1: this guy sent me an email last time and he said, 959 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: one of the lessons I have learned from your show 960 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 1: is if you want something, you have to go out 961 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 1: and get it. And this lesson pushed me to contact 962 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: a local game store to see if I can organize 963 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 1: a bay Blade tournament. And I read that email and 964 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 1: I was stoked on it. But I remember saying, let 965 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 1: me know what happens. Let me know if you end 966 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,319 Speaker 1: up actually starting the Bayblade tournament, like you know, show 967 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 1: we pictures what happened. So okay, this is another email. Okay, 968 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:04,479 Speaker 1: so updates starting a Bayblade community in my city. Hey, Gek. 969 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 1: First of all, I was so happy when you read 970 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 1: my email on the pod. I felt like one of 971 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 1: those crazy white boys in Mad Max. I've never seen 972 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 1: Mad Max, so I don't know what that means. But okay, anyways, 973 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 1: the bay Blade tournament is happening. It's fucking happening. Hell, Yes, okay, 974 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 1: the Bayblade Tournament is happening, albeit a bit slower than 975 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 1: I anticipated because there's a lot of elements that had 976 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 1: to align to make it happen. Yes, all the bay 977 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: Blayers very busy people to get all those schedules lined up. 978 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, the eleventh of July, my city will have 979 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 1: its very first bay Blade X tournament. Failure or not, 980 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 1: I will send you a follow up email to let 981 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 1: you know how it goes. All I know is I'm 982 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 1: excited as hell. Wait, Chris, hold on, dude, you gotta 983 00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 1: give me a fucking. 984 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 2: Hell. 985 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm responding to where is I want to tell the 986 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 1: I want to tell the podcast people about it? Where's 987 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 1: this babe aid tournament? Where is the tournament happening? Okay, 988 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 1: I just responded to him, where is the tournament happening? 989 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 1: I'll promote. I'll promote it on the on the fucking pod. 990 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna do fuck my tour dates. Let's I'm gonna 991 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna change all pod promotion for efforts away from 992 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 1: my tour dates, which you can get tickets for at 993 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 1: Therapy Gecko tour dot com. I'm gonna take all of 994 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 1: my podcast promotion, my my podcast tour dates, uh, promotion 995 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 1: away and put it all into the Babelade tournament. That's 996 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. Okay, Chris, keep me updated. You 997 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 1: better respond to that email. Let me know where this is. Okay, 998 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 1: all right, that felt good. I'll read another one. Let's 999 00:58:55,160 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 1: see this is this is? This email's name is fresh Start. Hey, 1000 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 1: Gecko man, I would like to go by Churo. I 1001 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: don't really know if this will make it to the 1002 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 1: gek mail segment. It did, but regardless, I would like 1003 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 1: to write this as a means of yapping slash, getting 1004 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 1: it out of my chest. I have been in the 1005 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 1: same career for the last eight years, going on nine now. 1006 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 1: I am currently twenty eight and moving up to the North. 1007 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 1: I currently live on the island of Puerto Rico, and 1008 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 1: I am moving up to Maryland soon for a new 1009 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 1: job I got. I am kind of anxious and nervous 1010 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 1: about how well I will fit in and most of all, 1011 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 1: how I will handle the culture shock if I encounter 1012 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 1: some Oh okay, I thought he was gonna okay if 1013 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 1: he encounters some culture shock. 1014 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:44,600 Speaker 7: Okay. 1015 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: I've been living in Puerto Rico for most of my 1016 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 1: life and moving to the States feels surreal, and I 1017 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 1: feel like I'm leaving behind a part of me in 1018 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,919 Speaker 1: the Island. I've got family over in Maryland shout out Maryland, 1019 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 1: which will make them move a bit easier. But it 1020 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 1: being my first time moving on my own and taking 1021 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 1: on a new career feels like I am about to 1022 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 1: climb a mountain, one which I will reach the top 1023 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 1: of with help and support from my loved ones. Yet 1024 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 1: I have a little voice in my head that leads 1025 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 1: me to overthink. It makes the worst case scenario possible. 1026 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 1: My question is, do you have any tips on overthinking 1027 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 1: and over analyzing anything and everything? Much appreciated, get blessed. 1028 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,640 Speaker 1: I don't have tips, but I have a lot of experience. 1029 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: Maybe my experience can help you. My experience of doing that, 1030 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I do it all the time. I'm a 1031 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 1: huge overthinking or I ever analyze. I you know, it's 1032 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really, really, really lucky. I've gotten to do 1033 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 1: a lot of shit in my life despite probably having 1034 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 1: spent like, god, you know, so much significantly, I mean, 1035 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 1: fifty one hundred times more time thinking and over analyzing 1036 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 1: shit than like doing shit. I'm just lucky. I had 1037 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 1: my little times where I got to do stuff, you know, 1038 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: And that's the thing I feel like I'll regret on 1039 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 1: my deathbed. I'll regret anytime I was a dick or 1040 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 1: anytime I was worried. I feel like those are the 1041 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,120 Speaker 1: two things I'll regret. But how do I how do I? 1042 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 1: How do you not over analyzed and overthink everything? I 1043 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 1: mean it's hard, I do it all the time, but 1044 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:32,439 Speaker 1: I ultimately think that in a scenario like this, where 1045 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 1: you've been doing the same shit for eight years, you've 1046 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:39,240 Speaker 1: been living in Puerto Rico for eight years, you're making 1047 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 1: a move, you feel you're making a move, and you 1048 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 1: feel pretty confident about too. You have family over there, 1049 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 1: and you literally just said, I'm going to reach the 1050 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 1: top of it with the help and support of my 1051 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,880 Speaker 1: loved ones. I mean, I can already tell, I can 1052 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,680 Speaker 1: already tell that you're gonna be okay, just byter the 1053 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 1: fact that you even said that. You know the fact 1054 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 1: that you feel so confident in those relationships that they 1055 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 1: will guide you to where you want to be. So 1056 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 1: I believe in you, just based on that fact that 1057 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 1: you believe in yourself. In this scenario particularly, I do 1058 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 1: think this is a nice move because I don't know. Man, 1059 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 1: this is just me personally. But I always want to 1060 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 1: keep I want to keep evolving, you know, when I 1061 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 1: feel like I can get I don't want to get 1062 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,440 Speaker 1: stuck in something for so long and then by you know, 1063 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm also twenty eight and at twenty eight, it's like 1064 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 1: your life doesn't naturally evolve that much. You have to 1065 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 1: make it evolve. You have to take different choices and 1066 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:49,160 Speaker 1: do different things to get your life to evolve. And 1067 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,080 Speaker 1: if you just overthink, I mean, dude, you can. You 1068 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 1: can overthink shit for like years. I've experienced that, I 1069 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 1: really have. I've experienced like I was reading journals of mine, 1070 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm like twenty twenty four, twenty twenty three, where it's 1071 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,040 Speaker 1: like I'm talking about shit that there's some shit that 1072 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm talking about that you know I actually have like 1073 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,760 Speaker 1: take an action on and done well. But there's socially 1074 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking about where it's like, fuck, did I'm talking 1075 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 1: about doing? I'm talking about like, oh, I'm gonna do 1076 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:19,560 Speaker 1: that like today. You know, like you can overthink and 1077 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 1: overanalyze four years and years and years and just not 1078 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 1: make a decision at the time. Just fucking passes. Not 1079 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,920 Speaker 1: to freak people out, but I'm glad you're making a decision. 1080 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're doing a thing, so you know, be happy. 1081 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,919 Speaker 1: Be happy with your decision. I think it's a good one, 1082 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:37,920 Speaker 1: especially if you have that much confidence in it that 1083 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 1: your homies are going to help you out. Well, we 1084 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,440 Speaker 1: did it, folks, we did a gek mail. I'm pretty 1085 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 1: happy with it. I'm pretty We had the guy moving 1086 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 1: from Puerto Rico, and then we had the babylay guy. 1087 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna see what happens with that bab blade tournament. 1088 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: Go to this guy's baby blay tournament July eleventh. That's 1089 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,160 Speaker 1: all the info I have. When I have I have 1090 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 1: more info, I will let you all know. I promised 1091 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 1: I am on tour. If you live in Portland, Seattle, 1092 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 1: San Francisco, Vancouver, or Minneapolis, I am coming to your 1093 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 1: city very soon. Let's see, I'm coming to the Pacific Northwest, 1094 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:23,480 Speaker 1: like immediately, Like I'm coming there like next week. San 1095 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 1: Francisco June fourth, Portland June fifth, Seattle June sixth, Vancouver 1096 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 1: June seventh, Minneapolis June ninth, and a whole bunch of 1097 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 1: other dates. Many many other cities are available now at 1098 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 1: therapy geckotour dot com. Uh, please go check that out. 1099 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 1: Please come see the live shows I've got I'm, I'm. 1100 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,640 Speaker 1: They're basically the live shows are like a combination of 1101 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:51,160 Speaker 1: like this podcast, where I invite people up on stage 1102 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 1: and we talk, and then also I do a lot 1103 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:55,920 Speaker 1: of storytelling. So you know, I went to Iraq, I 1104 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,800 Speaker 1: went to Ukraine. I've been living my life. I have 1105 01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 1: stories about it. I'll be telling some story. It'll be fun, 1106 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 1: it'll be nice. Go check that out therapy geckotour dot 1107 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 1: com or the link in the episode description. I also 1108 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 1: have a bonus episode this week on Patreon, Patreon dot com, 1109 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 1: slash lyle forever. You get access to every episode of 1110 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:23,200 Speaker 1: this podcast add free, every episode of this podcast that 1111 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,040 Speaker 1: is a bonus episode that is not on the main feed. 1112 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 1: And what else, Oh you get there's there's extra footage 1113 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,000 Speaker 1: from the documentaries. There's a whole bunch of stuff on 1114 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 1: that Patreon, Patreon dot com, slash lyle forever. Here's a 1115 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:44,960 Speaker 1: little clip a bonus episode. Clip from this week's bonus episode. 1116 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 8: I'm gonna quit my job in the next week, and 1117 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,760 Speaker 8: I wanted your advice on how I should do it. 1118 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,080 Speaker 1: Okay, what's your job? 1119 01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:58,440 Speaker 8: I do kind of like a like experimental testing, I 1120 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,920 Speaker 8: would say, is what I do? So it's hazardous environment, 1121 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,440 Speaker 8: like high energy testing. 1122 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,160 Speaker 1: On on animals. 1123 01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 8: No, no, oh gosh, no, nothing that's alive. I do 1124 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,480 Speaker 8: like aerospace grade testing. But the purpose of it is 1125 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 8: anything you want to do that you shouldn't do on 1126 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,760 Speaker 8: the Earth, you can instead do it in space because 1127 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 8: it's a little safer. 1128 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:19,919 Speaker 2: Hmm. 1129 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:26,880 Speaker 1: What is the coolest dangerous thing that you are trying 1130 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,640 Speaker 1: to figure out how to do in space? 1131 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 8: The highlight of my career was helping to build one 1132 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,800 Speaker 8: of the most powerful rocket engines in the modern day 1133 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,080 Speaker 8: and seeing it fly over and over again. That was 1134 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,240 Speaker 8: probably the coolest thing. So everything since then it's been 1135 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,000 Speaker 8: kind of chasing the same feeling, but not being able 1136 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 8: to find something that gets tainted, I would say, because 1137 01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:51,360 Speaker 8: it felt very purposeful. 1138 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,440 Speaker 1: Damn dude. So you build, you're building? You build a rocket? 1139 01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:56,600 Speaker 8: Yes? 1140 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:56,959 Speaker 2: Yep? 1141 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 1: Okay, and why are you quitting? That was a preview 1142 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 1: of the bonus episode. You can check that out at 1143 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:08,640 Speaker 1: patreon dot com, slash Lyle forever and uh, that's about it. 1144 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:09,640 Speaker 2: Thank you. 1145 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:10,480 Speaker 1: Guys for listening. 1146 01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:11,120 Speaker 2: Ghak. 1147 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,280 Speaker 1: Bless you all and I'll see you guys around the universe. 1148 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 2: Bye. 1149 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 1: Everyone goes on the line taking your phone calls every night. 1150 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 7: Deacon goes to his hide just teaching you aloud. 1151 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:27,080 Speaker 1: In the Memorial Life, Monday's not really an expert.