WEBVTT - Nellie McKay 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.440 This is me, Craig Ferguson. I'm inviting you to come 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:05.920 and see my brand new comedy hour. Well it's actually 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:07.400 it's about an hour and a half and I don't 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:09.959 have an opener because these guys cost money. But what 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.000 I'm saying is I'll be on stage for a while. Anyway, 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:15.520 come and see me live on the Pants on Fire 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.680 Tour in your region. Tickets are on sale now and 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:23.959 we'll be adding more as the tour continues throughout twenty twenty. 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:24.920 Five and beyond. 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:28.080 For a full list of dates, go to the Craig 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.640 Ferguson show dot com. See you on the road, my DearS. 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:36.760 My name is Craig Ferguson. The name of this podcast 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:41.880 is Joy. I talk to interesting people about what brings 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:48.720 them happiness. Hello everyone, it is I Craig Ferguson. Welcome 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:52.360 to the Joy Podcast, coming to you from London, England. 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:54.440 Well I'm in London, England. 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:57.400 My guest today is not there, although she was born 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:58.840 in London, England. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:01.360 Which is a strange Quinn, It's not really. 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:05.319 She's a true American genius and someone I really get 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:06.000 a kick out of. 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.040 And I think you wrote to please. 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:12.520 Welcome the wonderful Nellie Mackay. 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.800 I am very excited to be talking to you again. 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:18.160 Nellie. 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.759 It's been it's been a while, it's been a it's 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:22.520 actually been a minute or two. 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.000 Where are you? Is it Christmas? Where you are? 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:27.920 It looks very, very festive behind you. 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.720 It's always Christmas. And in fact, I don't know if 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:33.000 you ever worked at piano bars, but I once got 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.399 fired from one for playing Christmas music in July. But 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:38.840 that's the best time to do it. 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.440 I've never worked a piano bars, but let me ask 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.160 you this. Have you worked a lot of piano bars? 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.000 Oh? Yeah, And I still think about it because it's 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.120 like the Beatles in Hamburg. You got to play eight 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.440 hours a night or you know you actually you probably 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.720 know this, but you perform less once you go pro 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.480 Oh yeah, I know, that's for sure. Yeah, because then 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:01.120 is always for money. And you're like, I don't die 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:02.280 of not doing it for it. 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:06.600 But I don't know what I do. You're kind of 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.200 ron all the time, really, aren't. Yeah, you're just kind 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.640 of talking. I just talk, or I just talk. Let 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:14.799 me ask you about the piano bar though, because I'm 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.160 kind of interested. There's a piano bar that I keep 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:18.880 walking by. I don't know if you know it. It's 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.440 on the Upper east Side in Manhattan. 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.600 I think it's called Hang on a second, Megan, what's 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:31.320 the name of that piano bar, Randy's, Brandy's Brandy's Piano 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:33.560 Bar on the Upper east Side? 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:37.240 Do you know it? No? Maybe it changed name. It 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:37.839 might have done. 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:39.680 But every time I walk by, there's a lot of 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.840 fabulous looking men outside smoking cigarettes, and then they go 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:46.160 back in and start singing again. It seems like Bohemian 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.920 Rhapsody is very popular in there. I want to go in. 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:52.639 Maybe I should. Can you play piano? No? 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.480 I can't play piano, but I can sing raucously with 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:56.200 a bunch. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.320 Of middle aged gay men, and I feel that's enough. 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.959 Well, and you can do their hair too, yes, I can. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:06.080 Let me ask you this. 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.440 Are you in Rehrassal right now? Are you in Hssal 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.200 in New York? No? We start right after labor days, 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:16.520 like going back to school, right, Because what's the name 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.440 of the play. It's a new play, isn't it. They're 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:23.440 doing It's called Let's Love. Oh that sends upbeat? Is 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:27.360 it upbeat? Well? I think it should be called congestion 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.840 tax because I hate the congestion tax so much. But 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.560 I'm going to work on Ethan. Yeah, there's a lot 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.800 I'm going to do when he's not around for matinees. 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:40.800 So I wouldn't go confess in that right now at 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:44.600 this early stage in the game. But Ethan Cohen, who 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:49.080 wrote the play, I mean, he's written some very dark stuff. 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:53.120 I mean he did the screenplay for Fargo and No 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.080 Country for Old Men, and you know. 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:59.280 Is it but this is this more cheerful or is 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.800 there a lot of people getting killed with oxygen containers 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:02.320 and stuff? 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:06.240 I want there to be. I suggested that. I suggested, 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:10.480 like after every love scene, I could stab someone. Yeah, 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:16.159 but uh, you know there's so many reasons. There's that 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.559 Wayn's Brothers movie I think is it called Scary movie 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.760 or something, and where people just start going on a 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.600 rampage and the hasidic guy comes over to people in 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.000 the audience starts stabbing and he's like you talk during 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.640 Shittler's List, you know, like there's just so many random 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.040 you can you can stab people. 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.040 I think it's I don't know that it's allowed to 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.320 usually go out and stab people who are in the audience. 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:42.240 But you know what, what theaters and tell me that 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:43.680 because maybe it will be Okay. 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.520 Where are you? It's on twentieth Street, so I say 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.039 anything goes Yeah. 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.240 I think I think below thirty fourth Street. Yeah, I 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.360 think you can stab members of the audience, and that's 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.440 all right. I don't It's an old by law in 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.839 New York. We should probably find out, do you know. 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:58.359 I want to ask you about it because I'm in 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.320 London tho, as you can tell behind me, if you 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.640 look out the window, you could probably see there are 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:09.360 chimney sweeps and singing urchins and all sorts of people 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.800 with their thumbs behind their lapels. 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:18.440 You're from London, are you? Weren't you born here? Well? 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:22.000 I was born there, yes, so I have dual citizenship. 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.359 That would seem like a fail safe. But I've heard 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.920 that the first on the nuclear bomb list is London. 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.440 Is it really like if it. 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:32.440 Broke out, they say that's the first place they would hit. 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:34.400 Why would they go for London first? 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:39.560 I guess, well, it's close, it's close if they're going 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.440 to be coming out. I don't think about it much. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.680 I used to think about it a lot in the eighties, 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:47.400 but that was kind of way before your time, seeming 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:51.680 I was like twenty when you were born, and during 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.920 the eighties we rose terrified in nuclear wars. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.000 Do you worry about nuclear wars? I? 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.159 Yeah, you know, and I shouldn't. I should be the 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.440 last person because I know it humans do so I 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:05.480 should be hoping for annihilation. But all these people who 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:09.960 they like to go kayaking, they're not worried about it. Yeah. 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:13.119 Well, I think if you're kayaking, which is a fair point, 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:17.359 if you are kayaking, then it's unlikely that you'll be 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:21.240 in a place that's going to be nuclear attacked because kayaking, 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.800 by his very nature, is not usually done in central London. 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:26.360 You would think that, but they have all kind of 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:29.119 sights all over the world. In fact, you can stay 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:30.680 in bunkers on Airbnb. 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.840 Well, no way. Are we happy about this or are 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.520 we sad about this? And also as a follow up 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.880 kind of question as well, why this hatred of people 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:42.520 kayaking is there? 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:49.680 Do you have a problem with guys yet? I don't 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:50.240 know why. 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:54.080 There's no smug Yeah, I kind of feel the say, 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:55.880 and I'll take a lot of hate for this, but 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:57.320 I kind of feel the same. 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.520 Way about people who cycle. 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:01.440 Not the. 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.320 Yah yeah people who but people who wear all the 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:06.920 outfits and the tiny little. 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.720 Hats and stuff, I can't do it. 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.640 Just their tight butts alone that they go ahead. 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.880 And yeah, they kind of wave them in your face literally, 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:16.800 kind of saying, this is what you don't have. 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:20.240 That's what I feel like is going on. Let me 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.200 ask you this. If you don't kayak and you don't bicycle, 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:24.400 how do you get around New York? 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:30.200 Suty that a hitchhikest That would be very dangerous. 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.880 That would be a very dangerous thing to do. Why 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.040 do you think it got so dangerous. My mother used 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.280 to hitchhike and one time she had a guy. He 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.080 drove her out to the desert and he said, I've 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.200 had a lot of Spanish fly and she had to 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.560 kind of fend him off and then run through the 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.920 cactus and the dark and wilderness to get away from him. 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.880 But mostly in the sixties and previous, it was a 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.840 legitimate way to get around, and there was a lot 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:57.040 less fear for both the people picking up the hitchhikers 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:57.880 and the hitchhikers. 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.840 What changed, See, I have a theory about this that 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.800 may not fit into the narrative I don't think it 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:05.679 has changed. 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.280 I think the coverage of it has changed. 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.280 So I think all of the scary shit was going 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:15.800 on before, but it wasn't so like hyperbolic all over 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.120 the place. I think people have been dreadful for a 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:21.440 very long time, and I don't think that they're getting 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:21.960 any worse. 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.280 I think they're just getting more noticed. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.640 There's more, there's more news to fill, there's more kind 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:33.160 of stories to tell. Every tabloid, every Instagram account. People 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.720 have got to tell a story. But I want to 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.320 just bring you back to your mother and what happened. 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.200 Oh, I guess she got out. I mean might one 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.959 time they found a gal who had been you know, hurt, 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.520 and I think she had been than her body had 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.200 been burned. Oh my god. All they found they said 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.720 she was a redhead who wore hoop earrings. And I 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.320 think that kind of took it out of my nana. 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.600 And then when her mom, my mom called a couple 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:02.120 of days later, she's like, oh, Robin, she was from England. Yeah, 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.440 oh Robin. But you know, I mean, it's the kind 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.160 of thing that makes your heart stop. So I guess 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.320 I guess eventually my mom, you know, she stopped doing it. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.200 I think one time the cops picked her up and 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.200 they said, you know, this is illegal, and they drove 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.040 her back home. And I'm getting all these stories mixed up. 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.840 But she fell asleep to the sounds of the dishwasher 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:22.960 and she felt so safe. It was probably one of 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.920 the earliest dishwashers. And then one time she lived with 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.400 a guy. I think he was making mess. Again, I'm 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:32.160 probably getting all these stories miss mixed up. But the 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.520 cooker and you cook it right, and it's set the 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:38.000 house on fire. So then again the fireman and the 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.000 police came, and so she hid under a pile of laundry. 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:44.160 She actually fell asleep and they didn't catch her. You 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:45.120 should talk to my mom. 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.840 She has much better stories. I feel like I perhaps 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:49.440 should talk to your mom, or at least in the 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:55.040 FBI should talk to your mom. The So it must 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.440 be quite difficult for your mom, if she had such 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:01.839 a colorful young life herself, to be a disciplinarian with you. 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:03.839 Was she very strict? Was you when you were little? 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.640 But you know, it's no fun being the disciplinarian, being 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.120 the organizational one. It's fun being you know. And she 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.480 always had a taste. She was on tour in Hong 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:19.439 Kong with Albert Finnie and she she wound up getting 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.640 in an argument with him at a bar, which is 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:27.000 the best thing you can do with Albert Finnie, you know. Yeah, 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.160 so you got to find somebody to manage your tour, 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:32.319 who you know who doesn't want to go have fun? 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:36.080 And you know, because you know who enjoys who enjoys 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.040 filling out forms and uh checking in the hotels? 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.440 And does anyone enjoy that? I don't know that people 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:42.960 enjoy that. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:50.800 Yes, what's a whole sub what do you call it? Fetish? 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:56.559 Is this a kin people who liked doing like doing hotel. 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:57.360 Filling in forms? 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.640 I guess it's like if you're if you, if you're 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.880 used to tax forms and stuff. 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:02.920 Do you do your own taxes? 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:08.120 Hell no, I don't even know they're gonna get me. Yeah, 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:09.679 I should evaded them, right like. 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.480 John Bias, I do think he should have a vade 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:16.200 your taxes. It never goes well for anyone to evade 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:16.920 your taxes. 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.840 I just heard about Percy Sledge because we're thinking about 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.679 a tuna his for the Ethan Show, and apparently he 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.520 got in trouble for that. And also he had to 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:30.960 have a fundraiser for medical care. Craig after a man 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.400 loves a woman, he had to have a fund He 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:35.840 lived in Baton Rouge. I mean that's like a fifth 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.000 of the price of stuff in New York. He had 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:40.920 to have a fundraiser for medical care. 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.720 We should move to your house. Why would Percy Sledge? 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.120 Would Percy Sledge would not be comfortable in my house. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:50.400 He's not still around anyway, Percy Sledge? Is he? 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.800 No? But I am. But it's just in this country. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.920 I mean, I know, do you have in trouble with 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:59.400 the elites going after the National Health which used to 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:03.000 be sacri sanct in Britain? But I mean here, we 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.240 don't even pretend you're just on your own. 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.960 Wait a minute, I must I feel I may have 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:12.040 misled you. I am in London visiting. I do not 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:17.239 live in London. I'm in London right now, but I live. 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:18.280 In New York City. 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:23.320 Oh that's a nice Yes, So I'll be coming to 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:27.200 see the show. Sure, Yeah, of course I don't like 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.280 to go below you know, below Midtown, but I'll do 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:30.760 it for you. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:31.959 I'll go and see the show. 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.520 Yes, what's in Meddown? 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.720 The barrier between the Upper east Side where I live 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.560 and downtown, which I'm happy to go to, but I 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.520 don't like going to Midtown st busy. 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.160 No, you're on the Upper east so that means that 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:47.839 must be the new hip district. 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.600 No, I think it's more than the hip replacement district. 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:52.880 It's the. 0:12:55.800 --> 0:13:01.600 It's a little more kind of genteel and quiet. That's 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.199 why I like it. You know, the heap districts are Brooklyn, 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:08.400 Brooklyn is Williamsburg. And said, uh, where where are you? 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.880 What neighborhood are You don't say that, but just like 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:11.760 general area. 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.360 Oh, I mean, I can't tell you. And it's not 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:19.520 your race, it's your class because you can't help it. 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:23.719 Once people reach a certain level, yoga studios and cupcake 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:29.400 shops appear, and that's just it's just how Craig, how 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.520 can there be so many people? I know they buy 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.240 up apartments like a real estate deals. How can there 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.960 be so many people who can pay you know, eight 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:38.800 thousand a month in New York? 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.079 You know, so the coming for it. 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.360 So you got hey, you go, you gotta hide, you know, 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:48.280 you gotta hide. So where where are you hiding? Where? 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.520 Where's your neighborhood. Give me a rough idea, Give me 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:52.360 a rough idea. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.600 I think I'm gonna be I'm going to be pretty 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:56.960 close to the theater. 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.960 You know, right, that's enough down't townishnish. 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.640 Yeah, but get this, I mean you'll Brinner when he 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:04.760 was performed, my mom used to work for you, Brenner. 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.880 She was his second assistant. So he would come off 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.439 of the stage after shall we dance and go right 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:14.520 to the oxygen machine and go And then his first 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:18.439 assistant was Claire, so he would say, c Clare, I 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.280 don't know how to talk with Claire. Claire, I need 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:26.640 uh oh, yes, I need fourthy fourth inch rubber bands 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.000 from Fort Dam and Mason's. And she would say, yes, 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:32.960 mister Benner, Robin, mister Brinnan needs fourth inch rubber bands 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:36.480 from Fort and Mason. He says, no, Claire, I need 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.480 half inch rubber bands from Fortuham and miss oh yes, 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:43.480 mister Brinner, Robin, mister Brinnan needs And this is this great, 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.800 it's really a living it is. 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.240 But what do you need those rubber bands for? What 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.560 did you Brennan need the rubber bands for? 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.120 I don't know what. Probably this is between Mattinee and 0:14:54.200 --> 0:15:00.160 evening he would go h be with Marlena in and 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.880 wherever he was staying. I don't think he got a 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.680 lot of rest. And then afterwards, I think after the 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.800 show he always liked to wind down. Man, people can 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:12.960 really kill themselves with the performing thing. Well, you can 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:14.840 do that affair with Marlena thing. 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.120 Yeah, they're fair? Was it Marlina detreat? 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:17.480 Was that? 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:18.000 Who was? 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.600 Yes? And Mommy thinks that it didn't work because they're 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:22.320 too much alike. 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.240 Yeah, I think that that's possible. 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.040 I having not met either one of them, I'm going 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.920 to decide that that's actually what happened and they. 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:32.480 Were too alike. 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.840 Hello, this is Greig Ferguson and I want to let 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:42.880 you know I have a brand new stand up comedy 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:46.800 special out now on YouTube. It's called I'm So Happy, 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.440 and I would be so happy if you checked it out. 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:52.920 To watch the special, just go to my YouTube channel 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:56.080 at the Craig Ferguson Show and is this right there? 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:58.680 Just click it and play it and it's free. 0:15:59.080 --> 0:15:59.640 I can't look. 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:01.040 I'm not going to come around your house and show 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:02.360 you how to do it. If you can't do it, 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:03.920 then you can't have it, but if you can figure 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:11.720 it out, it's yours. I mean, haven't had a parent 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.680 who was so involved in show business like that, in 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:18.440 that kind of like really inside the world. Do you 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:23.720 think that that your work travels across and one of 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.080 the things I love about your music is it travels 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:31.480 between so many wildly varying genres. It feels like sometimes 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.320 it's like Trent Resner was born in the night it 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.680 was working in the nineteen twenties, you know what I mean. 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.000 It's like you can get very dark and also have 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.640 about ooh ah, it's wonderful. 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:42.520 How you do that? 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:46.400 Do you think that the diversity of your influence is 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:47.600 to do with your parents? 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:51.320 Because your father's very kind of clever play right as well. 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.440 Isn't he? Oh yeah, I think I think there's something 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:57.440 called genetic memory, So who knows how far it goes back. 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.160 I mean, I don't know if you've done any I've 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:03.480 done very little. But I do think that maybe some 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.840 of my family were part of the pirates of Penzance, Okay, 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.160 and so that's why I we you know, and there's 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.800 lots of ways to be a modern day pirate, and 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.080 you know, you got to live out, to live outside 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:17.399 the law, you must be honest. 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:22.720 There has to be a certain order amongst thieves and performers, 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:23.240 for sure. 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.960 My wife always says circus folk. We are circus folk, 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:29.280 and so the rules are a little bit of it. 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:33.959 You know that. Well, what does she do? Yeah? 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:39.399 Uh, circusy, she's a little circusy rides horses. You can 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:45.840 ride a horse with one leg and stuff like that. No, yeah, yeah, 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:48.159 can you do that? Do you ever ride horses around 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:49.240 downtown neighborhoods? 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.119 Oh? No, I just want to pet them. 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.080 Well, I think that's perfectly acceptable. 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:56.200 You can pet horses. 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:00.639 You're quite vocal about animal rights and stuff. Factually, as 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.800 I remember on we bonded over veganism. As I recall 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:05.920 the last time I spoke to you. 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.439 Oh that's right. Yeah, how is it going for you, Craig? 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:12.679 Well, I'll be honest, there was a time where I 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.360 returned to the harsh world of the carnivar. 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:17.400 I'm not going to lie to you, Nelly. 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:21.560 During the lockdown, I went beef and chicken a little 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:25.320 bit for a while. But I'm back and uh, and 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.720 I have was interesting. I don't know if this is 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:30.600 of any interest to you, but it certainly was to me. 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:33.159 For the first time in my life. I got a 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:36.360 medical exam and the doctor said, your cholesterol is up. 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.480 You need to go back to the your vegan diet. 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:43.399 And I said, or take statins. And I was like, well, no, 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:45.640 I don't want to take status if I can avoid them. 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:46.080 Thanks. 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.600 So I so I have returned to the way of 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:50.080 the hair. 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:53.399 Before I'm back. That was wonderful. Yeah, but it was 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:54.520 a you know, it was a right. 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.760 I imagine you're still where you are with it, right, 0:18:57.800 --> 0:18:59.560 You've remained true to. 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:03.160 The con Oh, it's a struggle every day because everywhere 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:06.919 you go, you know, there's this or that. Yeah, of course, 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.520 I think it's very good that you're honest, because you know, 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.439 we live in a world where there's constant temptation in 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.240 so many ways and so many people. It can be 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:19.320 hard to understand. Other people, like the pianist Mary Lou Williams, 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:23.080 had a severe gambling addiction. That's something I've never had, 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.680 but I you know, so it can be hard to 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:30.800 get inside that. When if I play a casino or something, 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:32.960 I mean to me, it just seems like such a scam, 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.919 you know, it's such an obvious I ain't waiting around 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:41.080 for that slot machine. But everyone has their thing, and 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:43.800 I think, especially the more pressure you're under, you're under 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:47.560 a thoughtful profession. I mean, if I could make a 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:51.080 decent living, like just working for the park service, you know, 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:54.000 an equivalent, I mean I would. It's so nice not 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.959