Speaker 1: Warning. Today's episode contained spoilers for Daredevil Born Again season
Speaker 1: one episodes five and six. Be warned.
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Speaker 2: In today's episode, we are talking about Dad Evil Born
Speaker 2: Again episodes five and six.
Speaker 4: Whoo, what a show this is.
Speaker 2: We will be breaking down everything you need to know
Speaker 2: as well all the things you might have missed.
Speaker 1: But first episode one five followed by one oh six
Speaker 1: of Daredevil Born Again. It's Saint Patti's day in New York,
Speaker 1: Big day in New York. Big that is at the
Speaker 1: Bank New York Mutual Downtown in the Financial district. Looks
Speaker 1: to be somewhere around Maiden Lane in New York City,
Speaker 1: helping him out as assistant bank manager. Yusef Khan, father
Speaker 1: of course of our friend Kamala Khan and patriarch of
Speaker 1: the of the Kan family. Yusef is very proud of
Speaker 1: his daughter, as one would expect. She's a superhero bona fide,
Speaker 1: tried and true superhero doing real superhero things. She's currently
Speaker 1: quote out in LA with her friends.
Speaker 2: Yes, in California with her friends aka beginning the West
Speaker 2: Coast Avengers. That is probably also going to be the
Speaker 2: Young Avengers, seeing as not all of them are very young.
Speaker 4: Now we always thought they were going.
Speaker 2: To combo those the younger the younger Avengers. We know
Speaker 2: from Hawk that Kate Bishop's aunt has a compound in La,
Speaker 2: which is you.
Speaker 1: Know, realisticonomically the comics West Coast.
Speaker 2: Exactly, which is then Brancho Palace Urde is unbelievably the
Speaker 2: site of the Donald Trump golf course. That is the
Speaker 2: address of the West Coast Avengee compound.
Speaker 1: So yes, and currently undergoing a medium motion landslide the ocean.
Speaker 1: May God strike that property.
Speaker 2: No La knowledge is unquestioned.
Speaker 1: Now, Yusef again very proud. He shows off a custom
Speaker 1: Funko Pop. So Funko Pop exists in the MCU of Kamala,
Speaker 1: and of course Matt cannot see that, so Yusuf is like, whoops, Matt,
Speaker 1: is here because he's applying for a loan for Eminem
Speaker 1: because they want to hire more lawyers, they want to
Speaker 1: expand get a bigger office. It certainly can't be Matt's doing,
Speaker 1: since he is never really working.
Speaker 4: No, and also I pray fancy.
Speaker 1: It's a huge and very sparsely like people like the
Speaker 1: one person in the background, and it's not like there's
Speaker 1: a kind of people coming in out. It looks like
Speaker 1: you got a lot of space, Matt, I don't know.
Speaker 1: And then use it turns him down very politely, Matt Lee,
Speaker 1: He's so polite, very polite. Then a van of Irish
Speaker 1: gangsters pull up in order to rob the bank to
Speaker 1: make up for the monies that Fisk and Vanessa have
Speaker 1: have placed on the gangs because of this truck heist.
Speaker 1: And the renuneration in the truck heist is one eight million,
Speaker 1: and the gang needs to make that money up in
Speaker 1: order to pay it, and so they've decided round me,
Speaker 1: they take the bank employees hostagen. Of course, Matt hears
Speaker 1: this from down the street with his dared devil hearing,
Speaker 1: he goes back in, pretending to be a simple, unassuming
Speaker 1: blind lawyer and the leader of the gang is, you know, like, hey,
Speaker 1: everybody who is very irish himself is like, everybody, shut up,
Speaker 1: don't get hurt. We're gonna have to rough you up
Speaker 1: and maybe kill you if you don't comply. And Matt's like, well,
Speaker 1: if you start doing that, then your chargers would increase,
Speaker 1: so you don't want to do that, and the gangsters like,
Speaker 1: who the fuck is this? Come on, come on guy,
Speaker 1: and then starts beating them up with his rifle butt.
Speaker 1: Who oh, we have a solicitor up, We have a solicitor,
Speaker 1: will try that. He starts beating up Matt. Matt, here
Speaker 1: is the cops pulling up, and meanwhile the gang leader
Speaker 1: is like, we need to get down to the vault.
Speaker 1: The bank manager is not here. Yusuf is the assistant
Speaker 1: bank manager. You, sir, are going to go down to
Speaker 1: the vault with one of my guys and they're going
Speaker 1: to open up the vault and get in there. Gang
Speaker 1: leader talks with a lieutenant. Now that the cops, you hear,
Speaker 1: they go to Plan B. And Plan B is apparently
Speaker 1: some scheme by which the gang leader will deal with
Speaker 1: the cops and his lieutenants will deal with the heisting operations.
Speaker 1: Whatever that means, so they've prepared for this moment. Detective Kim,
Speaker 1: who wears a lot of hats in the NYPD's out there.
Speaker 1: She is the hostage negoti truly.
Speaker 2: I'm like, they are really cutting down on the NYPD
Speaker 2: budget and the MCU.
Speaker 1: She does a lot of stuff in the NYPD. She's
Speaker 1: so she's here, she gets on the horn, is very
Speaker 1: very calm. Almost I will say, I think she's almost
Speaker 1: too calm. I think she's too called, a little too cool.
Speaker 2: She's basically just like, hey, man, hey, do what's man?
Speaker 1: Well, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know what.
Speaker 2: In the MCU, I'm like, don't you guys have more
Speaker 2: important things to do than stop a bank heist. I
Speaker 2: feel like America loves bank robos, like just go like
Speaker 2: stop a serious criminal's.
Speaker 1: There's normal people in there. True? Okay, So Detective Kim
Speaker 1: is like, you're surrounded, what what's what are you trying
Speaker 1: to do here? And Jesse James and Yang later calls
Speaker 1: himself Jesse James says, I need three armored cars for
Speaker 1: all the hat and I'll give you twenty five minutes
Speaker 1: to get him or I kill hostages. And Kim's like okay,
Speaker 1: show of trust, give us two hostages. So Jesse James
Speaker 1: goes to select the hostages. He selects this some lady
Speaker 1: and Matt. Now the ladies there with their husband and
Speaker 1: they start going, wait, like can't we go together and
Speaker 1: all this stuff in Matt's like, yeah, yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 1: I know, I hear it. Be a less simple, a simple, meek,
Speaker 1: blind lawyer. But let her go, let them go together,
Speaker 1: that's fine. Now Jesse James is really annoyed at Matt
Speaker 1: and they get into like this kind of pseudo background
Speaker 1: exposition conversation about Matt, where are you from, Laddie, and
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm from Hell's Kitchen in Hell's Kitchen, and
Speaker 1: what's your name? And he's like Matt Murdock is, oh,
Speaker 1: we've got irish solicitor and an orphan taboot who's blind
Speaker 1: ow Heaven's ste Betsy, my lord.
Speaker 2: I love how when they do this they shouldn't up.
Speaker 2: You're like, wow, Matt's background is so tragedy, is not
Speaker 2: hilariously like over the top tragic. And then Jesse James
Speaker 2: is like, just fucking take your hosband go, like sick
Speaker 2: of talking to this guy.
Speaker 1: I know, so Yusuf gets escorted down to the vault.
Speaker 1: The two hostages are released. Matt learns from another hostage
Speaker 1: who is a Mets, Jets Rangers fan that actually there's
Speaker 1: like barely any cat Like the only thing down there
Speaker 1: is like safe deposit boxes. It's not like a ton
Speaker 1: of cash down there. And so Matt is like a
Speaker 1: hot they must be after something in one of the boxes,
Speaker 1: very specific, and this is all becoming very inside man,
Speaker 1: uh the Spike Lee Bank robber epic. Matt is like,
Speaker 1: I gotta go pee which side?
Speaker 2: I felt like they would have just been like just
Speaker 2: piss yourself, Like I don't think that that taken any They're.
Speaker 1: Like the corner taken to the corner by the potted plant.
Speaker 1: But he convinces one of the guys to take him
Speaker 1: to the bathroom, and Matt easily overpowers this guy, like instantly,
Speaker 1: very easily, while doing it quite silently. Then he goes
Speaker 1: to use of sade knocks out yusif Sky. When Jesse
Speaker 1: James calls yusif Sky on the radio, Matt puts on
Speaker 1: his natural Charlie Cox accent and it's like, don't worry,
Speaker 1: We're at the horse now, We're looking into it with
Speaker 1: a lucky charms and all that we're gonna find to
Speaker 1: watch and is like, Wow, mister Murdoch, this is amazing.
Speaker 1: You've got so many talents, including mimicrying, including apparently like
Speaker 1: martial arts mashals. Wow, what a guy.
Speaker 2: I feel like the fact that Yusif's daughter is a superhero.
Speaker 2: I feel like he's probably clocking on at this point,
Speaker 2: like oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, yeah, I've seen this stuff before. Matt
Speaker 1: then cracks the safe using his super senses and think, okay,
Speaker 1: so what could the gang be after? Meanwhile, Kim is like, hey,
Speaker 1: we need more time for the armored cars. Jesse. There's
Speaker 1: this little bit where Justs is like, all right, I
Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, I'll give you a more time if
Speaker 1: you tell me I'll go joke. Yeah, I'll give you
Speaker 1: three more hostages, and she tells them an.
Speaker 2: Irish joke, which I feel like, I'm like, was that
Speaker 2: the best plan?
Speaker 4: I don't know?
Speaker 1: She like yeah, and she's like, anybody got a joke?
Speaker 1: And it comes with the Irish jroke. Matt discovers that
Speaker 1: the safe deposit key the guy guarding us have had
Speaker 1: a safe deposit case. Then they find the box and
Speaker 1: it's like, this huge amber colored diamond is the goal
Speaker 1: of these bank robbers. Matt heres outside that swat is
Speaker 1: beginning to get ready to storm the bank. So he
Speaker 1: goes up to Jesse and says, hey, the cops should
Speaker 1: come in, so get out of here before shit goes bad.
Speaker 1: And if you just like leave right now here, you
Speaker 1: can just have look, I've got the diamond I went.
Speaker 3: I got it.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about how I got it, but I got it,
Speaker 1: and you can just go. And Jesse James is like, well,
Speaker 1: I could just shoot you and get the diamond. But
Speaker 1: as he's saying, the cops begin to storm. So Matt
Speaker 1: like throws the diamond up in the air in the confusion,
Speaker 1: which Jesse snatches. It's in a little one of those
Speaker 1: little felts gem bag, gem bag. He snatches it out
Speaker 1: of the air, puts it in his pocket and there's
Speaker 1: chaos and confusion and shooting. Matt knocks out a guy
Speaker 1: one of the robbers, and the confusion and Jesse quick
Speaker 1: dresses in true like heist style, puts on his cop disguise,
Speaker 1: dresses like a cop and flees with the stone and
Speaker 1: Matt while this is happening, realizes that there's a lady
Speaker 1: in the bank who is like, who is a hostage
Speaker 1: who's like in on it? Yeah, she's the insider, and
Speaker 1: Jesse gives her the stone and is like, give this
Speaker 1: to Luca, Luca of the Bad Jackets. Yeah. Matt then
Speaker 1: puts on one of the bank rubber masks and confronts
Speaker 1: Jesse in the street, beats him up and breaks his leg. Really,
Speaker 1: Glaci's the ship out of that guy? Like he fucks
Speaker 1: him on really man.
Speaker 2: Like, did you need Frank Castle's permission or is he
Speaker 2: just gonna do this ship? I mean, I thought that
Speaker 2: was so cool though, how he puts on the the
Speaker 2: red mosque and then he's just like just beating off
Speaker 2: this like caught very funny stuff.
Speaker 1: The lady out on the street is like, let me
Speaker 1: just take a look at this gem bag. It's feeling
Speaker 1: a little ungem like. She looks in and it's a
Speaker 1: candy or Worser's original or something from Yusuf's candy ball.
Speaker 1: And then uh, later Matt is like just basically returns
Speaker 1: to discuss events with Yusuf and check up.
Speaker 2: And I'm hilarious, Like just coming back to the back
Speaker 2: where I was, and.
Speaker 1: You was like, you know what, you're a great guy.
Speaker 1: Come to my house in Jersey City and we can
Speaker 1: discuss ways in which to grow Eminem's revenue, you know,
Speaker 1: without a bank loan. And when he leaves, Usuf discovers
Speaker 1: that the diamond is just in a bowl on his desk.
Speaker 1: I guess, in the candy bowl, in the cannyball. I
Speaker 1: guess Matt is just thinking, Yusuf will do the right use. Okay.
Speaker 2: I like this though, because I was legit thinking. I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, so what's the messaging here? Like, is
Speaker 2: Matt like the.
Speaker 1: Message is how we grow Eminem.
Speaker 2: You you keep this diamond and maybe you like get
Speaker 2: a new house after it got smashed up by the Marvels,
Speaker 2: though obviously Matt doesn't know that, and maybe keep a
Speaker 2: little bit for me and uh and what's happens and
Speaker 2: the insurance.
Speaker 1: I feel of course he thinks, I just like, hey,
Speaker 1: put this, which I also think is really funny because
Speaker 1: then he could be putting Usuf in a terrible situation
Speaker 1: because they could be like, Yusuf, how'd you get that?
Speaker 4: Like were you in on this?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like I don't know if Matt he could just be like,
Speaker 2: well I found it. I don't know. I found it
Speaker 2: here in My Caddie and My Delicious Candy. I thought
Speaker 2: this was a great bottle episode. I understand this is
Speaker 2: definitely one of the episodes where they're really trying to
Speaker 2: do a little bit of MCU connectivity with you.
Speaker 1: Say, I like the light touch. I think it works connectivity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it works. I think it's a fun episode.
Speaker 2: Who doesn't love America loves a bank robber. I also
Speaker 2: thought it was interesting. I couldn't find like a direct
Speaker 2: comic book kind of correlation to the to the Rainbow Gang.
Speaker 2: But I mean there was a gang of Rainbow named
Speaker 2: bank robbers who are cat burglars who appeared in like
Speaker 2: one issue. But I thought it was a cool visual technique.
Speaker 2: I also love how in America and in like American
Speaker 2: culture and Hollywood movies and Hollywood TV and stuff, every
Speaker 2: bank robbers they need to give themselves like an equal gimmick,
Speaker 2: Like they it's like they want to get caught.
Speaker 4: It's like, are you the dead presidents? Are you everyone?
Speaker 2: Like every time you rob a bank, you have this
Speaker 2: cool because I think they know that if they do
Speaker 2: more than one bank robbery, then people may support them
Speaker 2: in American culture.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I thought this was really fun.
Speaker 2: I was very happy to see Matt's confidence here, like
Speaker 2: he was thinking like I have gone off again, no
Speaker 2: cosmic issues, like I can deal with banks. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: was very sassy, very silly, And yeah.
Speaker 4: I thought this was a very fun episode.
Speaker 1: It became clear to me in this episode that the
Speaker 1: Born Again dang is kind of a misdirect because, as
Speaker 1: we have talked about, much of Born Again happened in
Speaker 1: the Daredevil series on Netflix. First three seasons had a
Speaker 1: lot of the plot points of Born Again broken up
Speaker 1: and parceled out in like different chunks. This daredabl Born
Speaker 1: Again is essentially Daredevil season four with a lot of
Speaker 1: the cadence and few of the original show, but like
Speaker 1: changed and arcs that would have taken two three episodes
Speaker 1: are now kind of condensed. And I like it. I
Speaker 1: think it's really meat too.
Speaker 2: I think it's speedy, I think it's efficient, I think
Speaker 2: it's engaging. There hasn't been a dud episode yet for me.
Speaker 2: It feels very consistent compared to other MCU series of
Speaker 2: late also as well, I think something that is really
Speaker 2: intriguing about the Born Again kind of you know.
Speaker 4: Touch or or kind of twist.
Speaker 2: It's like, actually, everyone throughout covering this in the lead up,
Speaker 2: including us, I'm sure a ton of other people were like, hey,
Speaker 2: maybe it's just means like born again because he's joining
Speaker 2: the MCU, and it's like, yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is.
Speaker 2: And that's actually cool because, as we covered in our
Speaker 2: Born Again book Club episode, it's a controversial comic and
Speaker 2: you have to have a very very very smart, insightful
Speaker 2: touch to be able to adapt some of it. So
Speaker 2: for me, I'm happy that we're not kind of retreading.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of our discord after reading the
Speaker 2: book realize like, oh, if this is a redo of
Speaker 2: Born Again, we've seen a lot of it, and I
Speaker 2: see you think it's really cool that they haven't done
Speaker 2: that and instead they're pulling from more contemporary dead evil,
Speaker 2: like we said, like the very celebrated child Soul stuff.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and return with episode six. Okay.
Speaker 1: Episode six opens with a BB report, which begins with
Speaker 1: interviews with various graffiti artists talking about you know, what
Speaker 1: they do, the way it's criminalized in New York, and
Speaker 1: whether the existence of vigilantes, hurts or hinders law and
Speaker 1: order in the city is the basic conversation. Meanwhile, out
Speaker 1: in Red Hook, the iles corpse of Musa's latest victims
Speaker 1: is discover on the rocks. Matt, meanwhile, is in his bedroom.
Speaker 1: Foggy is clearly on his mind. He's praying. In one
Speaker 1: of the most like comics accurate. Matt Murdoch is a
Speaker 1: Catholic moments that we've seen certainly thus far in the
Speaker 1: in the Born Again series. I really like this. I
Speaker 1: felt it felt very true to who he is, this
Speaker 1: very guy who's very devout but also very violent, very
Speaker 1: law following, but also a visual HANDI the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Someone shared a great panel in our discord and it
Speaker 2: was like it said something along the lines of Matt
Speaker 2: Murdoch has is a supero, you know, vigilante with a
Speaker 2: very strict moral code that he often ignores, and I
Speaker 2: thought that was like a really good way of describing him.
Speaker 1: But he feels bad for ignoring it.
Speaker 4: He feels bad. That's he feels.
Speaker 2: You have to have the Catholic guilt of not following
Speaker 2: it as much as he would want to.
Speaker 4: And I love that.
Speaker 2: We get Heather coming in here. She's quite surprised because
Speaker 2: that's very comics accurate too, Like you got this young
Speaker 2: modern couple enjoying, you know, good sex and kind of
Speaker 2: living life in New York, and then at one point
Speaker 2: someone's going to walk in and their face is going
Speaker 2: to be shadowed and they're going to see Matt in
Speaker 2: his true form, which is him kind of praying and
Speaker 2: crying and wishing he could be the hero he thinks
Speaker 2: Hell's Kitchen deserves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she is. You know, he's thinking about and
Speaker 1: probably feeling bad about his attempted burder of Bullseye and
Speaker 1: how much he wished he had succeeded. And Heather comes
Speaker 1: in and is really surprised to see how devout Matt
Speaker 1: actually is. She has not seen this side of him.
Speaker 1: And Heather is like, are you okay? And is this
Speaker 1: because you were just taking hostage in the bank, And
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, no, that's not that.
Speaker 4: He's Honestly, if.
Speaker 2: I was, if I was going to tell you what
Speaker 2: actually happened that day, I could have not been taken hostage.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I was kind of bored and I heard with.
Speaker 2: My superman hearing that I wanted to go back and
Speaker 2: just kind of leave that.
Speaker 1: Part because it makes so like that's such a natural
Speaker 1: you'd be like, are you like you were taking hot
Speaker 1: There was a violent wring crobbery like are you okay?
Speaker 1: He's like, A right, I'm not, that's not.
Speaker 2: He's I'm just wishing that when i'd thrown this guy
Speaker 2: off a four story building, he'd actually died instead of,
Speaker 2: you know, surviving.
Speaker 1: Then Heather's like, listen, you know I'm working on that
Speaker 1: new book. I want to tell you what it's about.
Speaker 1: It's about vigilantes. It's about a case study of psychological
Speaker 1: study of vigilantes. So I was wondering, like, you know,
Speaker 1: as a lawyer, you know a lot of people in
Speaker 1: that world and your law office did you know previous
Speaker 1: law office did work with Frank Castle. I was wondering,
Speaker 1: could you get me a sit down with the punisher?
Speaker 1: And he's like, are you fucking for real right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You great? Well what about Daredabal? Do you know Darnable?
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, let's move on.
Speaker 2: When this happened, I had this moment and I don't
Speaker 2: think this is the case. This is not a theory
Speaker 2: I think is gonna that's gonna come true. I just
Speaker 2: had this moment where I was like, oh, it would
Speaker 2: be so gutting, Like if we were watching the Netflix show,
Speaker 2: this would feel like there was some kind of duality
Speaker 2: there between, Like is Heather actually getting close to him.
Speaker 1: Because of that?
Speaker 2: But I love this relationship.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 2: But I did love the idea that like he would
Speaker 2: do a sit down with her as Daredevil and then
Speaker 2: he's doing like a sitcom style bit where he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: Matt's here, Like I bet I just gotta go out,
Speaker 2: and you got to go to the bathroom, like I.
Speaker 1: Will say, I love. We don't get a lot of
Speaker 1: secret identities in the MCU. Even Peters in his various
Speaker 1: incarnations get blown really quickly, like really, people know who
Speaker 1: that's Peter and Spider Man. Basically like even though you
Speaker 1: have to raise your mind, you have to go all
Speaker 1: through these loops to like make it work again. Here
Speaker 1: is the tension is. I think they're gonna get a
Speaker 1: lot of fun drama out of this. The fact that
Speaker 1: she's investigating vigilantes, She's like interested in the topic. Clearly
Speaker 1: Matt has a lot of strong feelings that he's not
Speaker 1: going to be able to like truly, you know, come
Speaker 1: clean about So this is really interesting. I like this. Yeah. Good.
Speaker 1: Luca comes to see Fisk in his office and Sheila
Speaker 1: is like a little discomfited at a true gangster coming
Speaker 1: through the mayors.
Speaker 4: Yeah, She's like, maybe don't do this with me, Maybe
Speaker 4: do it with your little like sideh but like, don't
Speaker 4: have me.
Speaker 1: So he's there because of the issue of the one
Speaker 1: point eight million that he owes because of restitution from
Speaker 1: the truck heist that cost the lives of two guys,
Speaker 1: and Luca's like, well, I'm not flaying pain it. You're
Speaker 1: by the way, why don't you just work, you know,
Speaker 1: like do mayor shit?
Speaker 2: Like yeah, He's like, how about that? And how about
Speaker 2: the fact that I went through I got my guys
Speaker 2: to do a whole bank heist and they just brought
Speaker 2: me back a Weather's original, So.
Speaker 1: You fucking did you run the city? And I'll deal
Speaker 1: with my stuff and Fisk is like, oh yeah, now
Speaker 1: it's two point eight million and I get the other
Speaker 1: million that goes straight in my pocket. And Luca leaves,
Speaker 1: but it's clear that he's not happy about this and
Speaker 1: probably won't comply, and then the pressure on both men
Speaker 1: is really ratcheting up. Sheila brings John Santini from the
Speaker 1: sanitation department of Fisk's office. He is a huge Fisk guy.
Speaker 1: He believes that Fisk can fix it, and he's a
Speaker 1: big fan. He's here because there's this actually very striking
Speaker 1: Fisk mural in Red Hook that shows the mayor eating
Speaker 1: the Wall Street bulls ass. Basically, oh who could do that?
Speaker 1: And it needs taking down. But it turns out that
Speaker 1: when he because it was like not coming off and
Speaker 1: it's this weird epoxy and then he did an analysis
Speaker 1: John did of the paint and it turns out it's blood.
Speaker 4: Oh human blood. I wonder that many blood.
Speaker 2: Also, I was like obsessed with the fact that in
Speaker 2: the credits, most people in this including the bank robbers
Speaker 2: and stuff, they just.
Speaker 4: Get one name.
Speaker 2: So I was really interested that they gave this guy
Speaker 2: the named John Santini. And then I looked up and
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't remember immediately anyone in Marvel
Speaker 2: called that there's like a Jose Santini, not the same guy.
Speaker 2: But then I was like, did they just give this
Speaker 2: guy like a funny name because his name kind of
Speaker 2: sounds like sanitation. I was like, is this just like
Speaker 2: a Stanley s comic book thing? And I was like,
Speaker 2: no one gets a second name in the show, but
Speaker 2: maybe he will have a family member or something. But yes,
Speaker 2: turns out the paint is made of human blood. I
Speaker 2: wonder who could have painted that?
Speaker 4: Jason.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Matt is back at the office for once, discussing
Speaker 1: case strategy with Kirsten when Hector's niece Angela comes in
Speaker 1: and Matt's like, what is it like eleven forty five?
Speaker 1: Should you be in school? Like what's going on?
Speaker 2: Should be She's actual job, Matt murder like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's like, well, yeah, I've got I've got
Speaker 1: something for you. My uncle was investigating something those missing
Speaker 1: people the missing person's cases that nobody seems secure about,
Speaker 1: which we the audience know is related to muse but
Speaker 1: nobody else seems to know that. She's like, I want
Speaker 1: you to pursue this, and it's what my uncle would
Speaker 1: have wanted. And he seemed to think that all the
Speaker 1: cases happened in the vicinity of, or related to this
Speaker 1: specific abandoned subway station. And Matt's like, okay, this sounds
Speaker 1: like a cop situation. And she was like, well, they
Speaker 1: probably killed my uncle.
Speaker 2: So I don't feel like absolutely wild thing for Matt
Speaker 2: to tell her, just like a couple of episodes off
Speaker 2: because she's like crying about her uncle was killed by
Speaker 2: the cops. I'm like, Matthew, but also funny because I
Speaker 2: do think again, like when she came and asked him this,
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is very much out of the remit
Speaker 2: of a lawyer. Like this feels like she has an
Speaker 2: inkling of what matt really.
Speaker 1: Does, right, because as a lawyer, he does have to say,
Speaker 1: like go to the police. Yeah, that's not my issue.
Speaker 1: She is like, well, if you won't do something, I
Speaker 1: may go down there myself.
Speaker 4: Oh, don't check it out.
Speaker 1: The paint is absolutely blood, Gallo tells Fisk and Gallo
Speaker 1: Commissioner Gallows guess is that the body count for just
Speaker 1: the mural is anywhere in the ballpark of like up
Speaker 1: to sixty people blood for the mural. That's a huge amount.
Speaker 2: If you don't think that comic books, you know, comic
Speaker 2: books are crazy. If you don't think that Data of
Speaker 2: All Born Again is doing a good job at making
Speaker 2: it more realistic in the comics, it's one hundred people's bloot. Okay,
Speaker 2: so here. They were like, let's make it a bit
Speaker 2: more realistic.
Speaker 4: He's killed sixty people.
Speaker 1: Sixty people of disappear from the streets of Manhattan in
Speaker 1: recent weeks.
Speaker 2: I guess, one of them most prolific American serial killers
Speaker 2: of all time time. And that's the case he's done.
Speaker 1: That's just virals.
Speaker 4: Also, I have to say his murals.
Speaker 2: I don't want MWS to come and kill me. Obviously
Speaker 2: fictional character, but just got to put out them. Not
Speaker 2: trying to make the universe get me killed by a
Speaker 2: graffiti serial killer. But the murals are pretty basic, like
Speaker 2: you could have just done the mural.
Speaker 1: I like the Fisk one. The Fisk is the best one.
Speaker 1: That's the one where he's eating the butt of the well.
Speaker 1: But the other ones, I agree with you, are like.
Speaker 2: You could have just gotten some pain from like a
Speaker 2: car shop, babe, like over or whatever, like go just
Speaker 2: get some I don't know if you needed to drain
Speaker 2: someone's blood.
Speaker 1: Yes, the juice worth the squeeze, I guess for muses insane,
Speaker 1: so for him, yes, yes. So by the way, Detective
Speaker 1: Kim also on this case, she's she's the hostage negotiator
Speaker 1: and she's like the lead investigator of the Muse case, like,
Speaker 1: give this, give them my gall a break?
Speaker 2: I know, could she like is she the only left?
Speaker 1: And well they did say earlier in this series there's
Speaker 1: a lot of time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But also as well, I feel like if you are
Speaker 2: the hostage negotiator, you probably also shouldn't be the serial
Speaker 2: killer profiler, right, I feel like.
Speaker 1: Like paperwork on the heist.
Speaker 2: You know, also as well, I just want to say,
Speaker 2: you know, Aaron super producer, Aaron did just pop in
Speaker 2: an important question because as it was a very controversial
Speaker 2: topic during Agatha all along, Jason, who do you think
Speaker 2: has killed more people? Muse or Agatha?
Speaker 1: Uh, well, technically Agatha because we will never know the
Speaker 1: true number. Right, at least here we have hard science. Yeah, okay, true, true,
Speaker 1: And well here you know what, I think it is
Speaker 1: mused just because like in the modern day with where
Speaker 1: people don't just like drop off the map and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder what happened, and you know, like no one
Speaker 1: looks for them, or that's fun in a hole full
Speaker 1: of witches, you know, like, yeah, I think it's a
Speaker 1: more impressive feat to go for sixty on one mural
Speaker 1: in the modern era than it is to go for
Speaker 1: probably seven agree with that hundred or certainly in the dozens.
Speaker 2: For you know, I would say like, I'm glad you
Speaker 2: clarified that because I am a believer. I'm definitely a
Speaker 2: believer with the Agatha killed in the hundreds. But our
Speaker 2: discord was very upset. They did not like to hear
Speaker 2: that said about their beloved Agathaharkness.
Speaker 4: Okay, so I think you're right. I think it's news.
Speaker 2: And also I will say I agree with you because
Speaker 2: I get that had to put in a lot of effort,
Speaker 2: seeing as that was an era where people were just
Speaker 2: like dropping off.
Speaker 4: The map, dying of tuberculosis and.
Speaker 2: Shap Yeah, the Bible just gying got a lot of effort.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of news. He just got on
Speaker 4: with it.
Speaker 2: There was no fake song needed, no like weird lore.
Speaker 2: He was just like, I'm going to kidnap some people
Speaker 2: and drain their blood street.
Speaker 1: So it's like in a full get up where it's
Speaker 1: hard not to notice this guy and he's been doing it,
Speaker 1: like really out, I'm impressed. Fisk, in the middle of
Speaker 1: this meeting, begins to like laugh, He's he loves this
Speaker 1: for some reason, He's like, listen, Gallo, let's keep this
Speaker 1: whole thing quiet. Was like what He's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: because here's here's my reasoning. If this goes to the press,
Speaker 1: Muse will just go underground. He'll be harder to catch.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense, But we'll let Fisk cook.
Speaker 1: That's fine.
Speaker 2: But Friscus just like he's just like, yeah, I fucking
Speaker 2: love this guy.
Speaker 1: Like sounds great, like just like sounds hilarious. So he's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously go after him, but let's keep it quiet, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be clear that Fisk is going to use
Speaker 1: this for something. Yeah, that night, Muse claims two more
Speaker 1: victims just out in the street.
Speaker 2: And this was like making doing a good job looking
Speaker 2: like the Kingpin anymore, you're doing evil behavior.
Speaker 1: So he claims too more victims. Meanwhile, Fisk tells Vanessa
Speaker 1: about the meeting with Luca and the one million dollar
Speaker 1: Taxi puts on him. Clearly he's like trying to impress her,
Speaker 1: like ha, old guys, still got it right. He then
Speaker 1: is like, you know, being kingpin not that much different
Speaker 1: than being the mayor, and Vanessa clearly is like getting
Speaker 1: like that. She's like a charmed She's like, tell me
Speaker 1: more big Willie, Big Willie style. And also tonight is
Speaker 1: the big Fisk Can Fix It fundraiser where he's got
Speaker 1: to go out and meet the constituents New York's elite
Speaker 1: and you know, shake hands, kiss babies, and and try
Speaker 1: to drum up more money for his next run. Vanessa
Speaker 1: suggests that when you meet these people, Wilson, let them
Speaker 1: feel like they're in charge, even if they are not.
Speaker 1: And at this event, Kingpin ends up sparring with a
Speaker 1: few of the lead including Jack Ducaine, everyone's favorite swordsman.
Speaker 4: Love that guy.
Speaker 1: He seems to be taking a very anti Fisk stance
Speaker 1: for reasons that aren't like beneficial or good in any way,
Speaker 1: but he just doesn't like the guy putting his finger
Speaker 1: in his pie. We also learned that Fisk, who's getting
Speaker 1: dressed in his like mayoral duds his party outfit, is
Speaker 1: beginning to put the old Kingpin weight back on. All
Speaker 1: of that night time stress eating in front of Adam's
Speaker 1: cage is having an impact on the waistline of Wilson. Fisk.
Speaker 2: Dude, It's true, that's something so interesting about the way
Speaker 2: the food is connected, and like luxury is connected his
Speaker 2: vision of what it means to bendite.
Speaker 1: He's a man appetite.
Speaker 2: And the funny thing is about it, though, is he's
Speaker 2: not wrong, like being man has a lot of interesting
Speaker 2: stuff to say about New York mayors at a time
Speaker 2: when that feels more resonant than ever. But like he says,
Speaker 2: like it's not so different to be kingpin to be mayor,
Speaker 2: Like he could balance both. But the appetite he has
Speaker 2: is really about torture and cruelty and the need to
Speaker 2: you know, terrorize this man who who upset his life
Speaker 2: with Vanessa.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, basically ruined his relationship with Vanessa when
Speaker 1: it was like reaching its most hallowed pinnacle.
Speaker 2: And who doesn't love to eat some like delicious pasta
Speaker 2: from like China.
Speaker 1: He's been doing that for a while.
Speaker 2: Oh he's Cherry am in those cops.
Speaker 1: Investigator Cherry very anxious comes to the office and is like, Matt,
Speaker 1: I got to tell you something. There's a serial killer
Speaker 1: on the loose, sixty victims in the in the region
Speaker 1: of sixty victims at least, and it seems like the
Speaker 1: cops think the suspect is the street artist Muse. Matt
Speaker 1: is like, what sixty victims? I haven't heard anything.
Speaker 4: He's like about this Muse. I love him.
Speaker 1: I was gonna his anti his anti Fisk murals are
Speaker 1: really funny to me.
Speaker 4: He did like a cool white tiger mural.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well guess what that's all blood of victims. Cherry
Speaker 1: is like, listen, I told you this because I don't
Speaker 1: want you to get involved as daredubl, which is like,
Speaker 1: why did you tell him? But he's like, yeah, listen,
Speaker 1: just like stay out of it. Let the cops that five, six,
Speaker 1: maybe ten more victims tops, and the cops will will
Speaker 1: catch Mews like he can only even take a few
Speaker 1: more victims. Back of the fundraiser, Fisk gets the news
Speaker 1: that Muses struck again a double, this time bodies left
Speaker 1: out in the open, eyes torn out, and this one's
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to cover up. So Fisk changes course.
Speaker 1: He orders Gallo and this is clear, this is what
Speaker 1: he's been hoping for, right, Yeah, he to assemble his
Speaker 1: own like dirty cop force. He orders Gallo. Okay, Gallo,
Speaker 1: you're going to assemble a task force that I and
Speaker 1: I will pick the personnel. So what does Gallo exactly
Speaker 1: doing the emails? I guess yeah, so and and it
Speaker 1: and the the the like list of guys is all
Speaker 1: the dirty cops included everything cop that we've met. Gallo
Speaker 1: is like, wow, these are all the dirty cops, and
Speaker 1: Fiscus like, yeah, that's what we need to catch this guy.
Speaker 1: They will get overtime, they will get which none of
Speaker 1: the other cops are getting right now. They don't have
Speaker 1: to wear body cameras legal who cares. They will answer
Speaker 1: directly to me.
Speaker 2: Also, I feel like I like the idea.
Speaker 4: I like where he's coming from here.
Speaker 2: He's like the dirty cops they will be, you know,
Speaker 2: on our side. But also I feel like, if you're
Speaker 2: sending them to catch a serial killer, maybe you don't
Speaker 2: want them because the serial killer could just be like, hey,
Speaker 2: here's some money, don't catch Well, it's.
Speaker 1: Clear to me that Fisk one wants his own like
Speaker 1: goon squad, and two that this is the goon squad
Speaker 1: that he's going to send against Matt, against Spider Man,
Speaker 1: against whoever. Fisk goes to meet the Anti Muse Task Force,
Speaker 1: he gives them a big raw ras speech with which
Speaker 1: they fucking eat up. He's like talks to one of
Speaker 1: the guys and it's like, hey, why are you know?
Speaker 1: Tell me about you and he's like, well, I killed
Speaker 1: a drug dealer and I got in trouble for it
Speaker 1: because I shouldn't have done that, and people got mad
Speaker 1: at me because I just like executed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just like constantly executing people.
Speaker 1: And visc is like, well, that's not a problem in
Speaker 1: this unit. I love that kind of shit. I want
Speaker 1: you to do him more. That's the kind of go
Speaker 1: get them attitude that I need from my anti mused
Speaker 1: task force. All you mini punishers out here. I love
Speaker 1: you guys, and the guys fucking love it. They are like, yeah,
Speaker 1: killing people. Whoa Angela? Meanwhile, in a true babe, what
Speaker 1: the fuck are you doing? Heads down into the subway stations,
Speaker 1: look for mus not even wearing her uncle's mystical anult
Speaker 1: anything like.
Speaker 4: Ambulut.
Speaker 2: I thought when in episode five, I thought, when they
Speaker 2: were going down to the safe deposit boxes, we were
Speaker 2: definitely gonna get some mystical amula action. And now on Angela,
Speaker 2: you know your uncle had a mystical ambula. He was
Speaker 2: not just going around with his little iPhone flashlight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just in the dark muse tunnels. Well, mus catches Angela,
Speaker 1: no problem, gets gets all, it's not an issue, carries
Speaker 1: her back to the lair in order to drain her
Speaker 1: fucking blood. You know, his hideout is as creepy as
Speaker 1: you would expect. There's victims hanging for hooks, there's blood
Speaker 1: paintings on parchment on the walls. Whatever. He sedates Angela
Speaker 1: and then puts in the cather to tube and begins
Speaker 1: a drain in that blood for his dog, for channel
Speaker 1: for his next street art masterpiece. Meanwhile, in another very
Speaker 1: grim Wilson, what are you doing? Wilson action in hand
Speaker 1: is like, okay, I'm going to resolve the issue of
Speaker 1: Adam once and for all. The stress eating is putting
Speaker 1: the pounds on me. I gotta stop. I could just
Speaker 1: stop eating in front of the cage, but what I
Speaker 1: need to do is stop with the Adam stuff, because
Speaker 1: that's the true diet. It's like this, he's making me eat.
Speaker 1: So he goes down there with the axe and he says, hey,
Speaker 1: I've been struggling with this and I'm gonna let you go.
Speaker 1: And we're thinking, okay, maybe this would be great, and
Speaker 1: he says, but it is really hard for me to
Speaker 1: let you go, so uh, let's do it this way.
Speaker 1: Take this axe and see if you can get by me.
Speaker 2: Crazy crazy crazy crazy, And like what Wilson is really
Speaker 2: addicted to here is.
Speaker 4: Just torturing this matter.
Speaker 2: Yes, obviously nowhere close to the actual moment I'm going
Speaker 2: to reference here from Game of Ferns, but because that
Speaker 2: was an extended and terrible time. But I always remember
Speaker 2: during the Reek storyline, watching it with my best friend Alex,
Speaker 2: and the moment where Reek is allowed to escape, you know,
Speaker 2: and then he's gonna get saved and brought back, and
Speaker 2: my friend Alex said, you know, nothing more dangerous than Hope.
Speaker 4: And this is definitely where Wilson's at.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm gonna pretend to let this guy go,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna absolutely fucking just fuck his ship up.
Speaker 1: And he does. He does. I mean, he throws him
Speaker 1: through the ceiling, he throws him against the pillar and
Speaker 1: breaking it. He throws them through a table.
Speaker 2: He is giving him superpowers, like he's job.
Speaker 1: W e ing this fucking all around, and it seems
Speaker 1: like he's dead, but he and is he dead? Really
Speaker 1: really fucked up? And honestly, with the with the ruse knuckles,
Speaker 1: maybe this is kind of just a more extreme version
Speaker 1: of what Wilson has been doing for a while exactly.
Speaker 4: That's kind of what I think is it's been.
Speaker 2: Escalating, and I do think as well that we are
Speaker 2: still they're doing some very interesting stuff. He about the
Speaker 2: kind of journeys that both Wilson is taking back to
Speaker 2: Kingpin and that Matt is taking back to Dade, because.
Speaker 1: These scenes are intercuts, so like they intercut Kingpin's beating
Speaker 1: of Adam with Matt going down to the subway tunnels too,
Speaker 1: because he gets a call and he realizes that angel
Speaker 1: is missing, so he goes down there and he runs
Speaker 1: up on Muse. And I will say if this, if
Speaker 1: mus is the teenage kid, he fights too well because
Speaker 1: he holds his own and can really take a beating,
Speaker 1: and Matt does not have an easy time, yes, trying
Speaker 1: to subdue Mus. Though I should say that Matt also
Speaker 1: has like the double responsibility of trying to protect Angela's
Speaker 1: in form for being like stabbed by News, which ye,
Speaker 1: so Matt really gets put through his paces, but eventually
Speaker 1: beats the shit out of Muse and then chokes him
Speaker 1: out with like a cable. Then he you know, saves
Speaker 1: Angela's life. She's lost a lot of blood, but turns
Speaker 1: out she's alive, and we fade the black. That is
Speaker 1: that episode.
Speaker 3: Wow, we'll be right back after a quick break.
Speaker 1: And we're back. I mean, this is so Matt back
Speaker 1: as Daredevil. He's doing it in the suit. He's in
Speaker 1: this suit.
Speaker 2: And Wilson his back as Kingpin at least you and
Speaker 2: King Kingpin type shit. So we're heading into like the
Speaker 2: lost seven, eight, nine, last three episodes of this series
Speaker 2: with both Kingpin and Dead Evil back, and it's going
Speaker 2: to be very interesting.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be very interesting. What is the conflict? How
Speaker 1: does it come? How do they're on some sort of
Speaker 1: collision course but it still feels like that collision is
Speaker 1: far off. And then there's the issue of fucking Bullseye
Speaker 1: out there. Oh and how for sure he will re
Speaker 1: enter the story, but like how and when and where
Speaker 1: and will we also see uh Frank re enter the story.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting. Also, I kind of don't know
Speaker 1: where we're going from here.
Speaker 2: I think that's one of the best things about this
Speaker 2: show is it's not easy or predictable to tell where
Speaker 2: we're going.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Obviously we've had some we were right moments because we
Speaker 2: have read the comics, so we saw the meuse stuff coming.
Speaker 2: But the Wilson putting together his little gang of like
Speaker 2: essentially punish a fanboy.
Speaker 4: Cops, I did not see that coming.
Speaker 2: I also didn't see Angela just going down into that
Speaker 2: without her mystical amulet, which, Babe, I know you're gonna
Speaker 2: get it, probably not this season, but in season two.
Speaker 2: I believe you will be White Tiger, and I know
Speaker 2: you're gonna kill it. But you shouldn't have gone down there.
Speaker 2: So another thing I'm interested to see is what happens
Speaker 2: when Vanessa finds out that her lover was down being
Speaker 2: tortured by Wilson. Good. Don't feel like she's gonna be
Speaker 2: feeling good about that?
Speaker 1: Good question. It does feel like we're like Wilson is
Speaker 1: coming closer and closer and closer to being the kingpin again. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: the streets are in chaos, and you wonder how Vanessa,
Speaker 1: who it really seemed in the opening of this season
Speaker 1: was managing things quite well, like everybody was paying what
Speaker 1: they owed and there was not a extreme level of
Speaker 1: gang violence. So one was wonder how she feels about
Speaker 1: all of this, because it really feels like Wilson showed up.
Speaker 1: She kind of got put on the bench as the
Speaker 1: kingpin of the Gangs essentially, which was the role of
Speaker 1: manager of the gangs. And he seems to be more
Speaker 1: and more looking to like rebuild himself as mayor slash
Speaker 1: kingpin with more of an emphasis a king.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have patience to just be may I, And.
Speaker 1: So you do wonder how she feels about all this.
Speaker 1: And I think the Adam thing is going to be
Speaker 1: a true shot because he lied to her, even though
Speaker 1: he did it in Wilson Fisk style. I'm not that
Speaker 1: bad anymore. I'm not.
Speaker 2: Maybe it would have been better if you show him
Speaker 2: in the head, because he's really good.
Speaker 1: I gave him an accent, he had a he had
Speaker 1: his opportunity, he had I knew you loved him so much,
Speaker 1: so I put in his beautiful artist's hands and acts
Speaker 1: and he was not He was not to do it.
Speaker 1: So I think that there's another confrontation coming there or
Speaker 1: they'll be interesting to see another fun episode. I like
Speaker 1: the again. It really does feel like an extension of
Speaker 1: a true extension of the Netflix series in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways, and the kind of almost soapiness of the
Speaker 1: of the personal lives of these two characters. I like
Speaker 1: it very chaotic.
Speaker 2: I also think that there is a really interesting balance
Speaker 2: that the creative team of striking here where Yeah, we
Speaker 2: do get these characters back that people wanted, you know, Foggy,
Speaker 2: Karen Frank, but they're not oversaturating the story and they're
Speaker 2: also not just like random cameos. So I feel like
Speaker 2: people who've had issues with Marvel in that way of
Speaker 2: feeling like everything is way too connected or too heavily
Speaker 2: reliant on fan service, I feel like they've got to
Speaker 2: be impressed with this show at this point because I
Speaker 2: think that they're making a lot of really interesting, big
Speaker 2: swing choices. And yes, I'm very excited to see where
Speaker 2: it goes next. I think Charlie Cox and you know,
Speaker 2: Vincent Dinofrio have never been better. And I'm loving the
Speaker 2: side characters too. I'm excited to see more. Three episodes left.
Speaker 2: What's your craziest prediction that you'd like to see?
Speaker 1: Oh, well, I think Bullseye is going to enter the
Speaker 1: story somehow, some way, probably jailbred.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm a bulls eye stand so I would
Speaker 2: love to see it.
Speaker 1: I feel like Wilson maybe is going to try and
Speaker 1: frame Matt as Muse. Maybe they don't catch maybe Muse. Oh,
Speaker 1: I like maybe Muse. It's unclear, Like really what happens
Speaker 1: to mus after this fight?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Maybe he slips away and Fisk says, well, Darrevil might
Speaker 1: be doing this, and by the way, all these vigilantes
Speaker 1: gotta go. So maybe that's I think that's maybe my prediction.
Speaker 1: What about you?
Speaker 2: I would like to see a dead evil team up
Speaker 2: with somebody potentially big out there, timfoil Hat style.
Speaker 4: I would love to see Spider Man.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna get it, but I'm just
Speaker 2: throwing it out there because you wouldn't have to have
Speaker 2: Tom Holland you can just have Spider Man.
Speaker 4: Nobody knows who he is. I think that could be interesting.
Speaker 2: If not maybe finally get to see him and Frank
Speaker 2: back together again. I think something like that could be fun.
Speaker 2: I'm just interested to see where it goes. You know,
Speaker 2: It's actually really fun to watch a show like this
Speaker 2: where they keep surprising us and aren't always following kind
Speaker 2: of the obvious path. I'm really interested as well in
Speaker 2: how much casting they're releasing for season two. I feel
Speaker 2: like it's quite clear that season two was already laid
Speaker 2: out whenever they put together this version of season one.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited to find out more about where that's
Speaker 2: gonna lead us, and some of the incredible casting like
Speaker 2: Matthew Lillard and who potentially they're gonna be playing.
Speaker 4: And whether this season sets any of that up.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm really excited, and I'm hoping this is
Speaker 2: gonna turn people to more Dead Devil reading because.
Speaker 1: More street level stuff. That's the other thing is, like,
Speaker 1: I think more street level content. I am we need
Speaker 1: it kind of hungering for. It's not you know, people
Speaker 1: get killed and people get hurt, so it's low stakes
Speaker 1: is non exactly but cosmic. It's not cosmics. It's just
Speaker 1: yet bad guys on the street, gangsters, you know. Like
Speaker 1: this is I like this level of superhero and I'm
Speaker 1: eager to see more. In the next few episodes of
Speaker 1: Extra Vision, will we continuing our Daredevil Born Again coverage
Speaker 1: and reacting to the upcoming Nintendo Direct news. And that's
Speaker 1: it for this episode. Thanks for listening, bye. X ray
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