1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Well, the l A Rams are Super Bowl champions, and 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: now the focus ships to how to build the next 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion. In the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: a huge piece of that's so welcome everybody to this 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: combine weak condition of move the sticks. Hello, Red Louis 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: here with your former NFL scouts along for the ride 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: as well, Lead draft danelist Daniel Jeremiah, and veteran of 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: the nine NFL Scouting Combine Bucky Brooks. What's up, fellas? 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: So look, DJ just wanted to let you know Bucky 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: and I have already committed to running the gauntlet as 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: long as you fire up the old arm on one 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: of the QB stations. Are you down with that? Yeah? 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm the first throw right, so that's right in front 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: of you. That's a stationary target. That's my role. I 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: know my limitations. What do you think, Buck right, I'm 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: gonna let you go down to Gaulet on your own. 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: I think I am done trying to look and turn 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: and find the ball. I don't want to get backed 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: into hit. Yeah, now that's right, because we have seen 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: that happened a time or two. Barn On my favorite 21 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: drill of the entire combine, and we will see that 22 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: on Thursday night in prime time, and you will also 23 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: see the quarterbacks throwing on that day as well. Quarterbacks, 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: whiteouts and tight ends getting rolling for you four pm 25 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: Eastern time. Get that throwing workout in prime time starting 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: March three, and then we follow with prime time workouts 27 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: with the running backs on offensive line on Friday, d 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: line and linebackers on Saturday, and then an afternoon affair 29 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: for the dbs and special teamers on Sunday, all right 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: here on NFL Network, the NFL Scouting Combine presented by 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: Verizon cannot wait just a couple of days away. We're 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: all making our pilgrimage to Indianapolis. Uh here today and 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: tonight in Bucky's case. So guys, let's get this started 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: with to do list for both teams and players at 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: the combine. DJ start with you on the team side. 36 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: What's what are some of the checklist items for teams 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: as they descend upon Indianapolis. Well, all these teams, Rhett 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: have had their draft meetings over the last couple weeks 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: and they've set their board, they've discussed these players, and 40 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: when you look at the combine really it's about filling 41 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: in the gaps. You know, what are the questions that arose, 42 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: what are the flags that maybe it came up in 43 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: these meetings. And that could be something speed related, it 44 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: could be something you know, football intelligence, which you're gonna 45 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: get the chance to visit with them and get a 46 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: chance to get a grasp of where they are there. 47 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: It could be a medical situation. You just want to 48 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: see where these guys are medically. So from a team standpoint, 49 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: your draft is kind of anchored right now. There's gonna 50 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: be some movement, but not a lot going forward. You 51 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: need to fill in the gaps here, and the combine 52 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: does a wonderful job of helping in that regard. You 53 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: have no question, and you know, Bucky as a from 54 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: the player perspective, as we give the good folks at home, 55 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: look at what that combine was all about for you 56 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: back there in Indianapolis. Let's can we take air? It 57 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: is all right? Look, so look adjustin that he does 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: not agree with that, am I right? Uh yeah, we 59 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: got it down. That's what I'm talking about there, all right. 60 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: So look, DJ laid out the team checklist. If you're 61 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: a player about to work out for all of these 62 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: talent evaluators, g MS, coaches and scouts. What is on 63 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: your to do list? Well, the main thing that you 64 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: want to do is you want to get yourself ready 65 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: to go and work out and to be at your 66 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: best the thing that you have at your advantage. Now 67 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: everyone knows what the drills were. Back in nine, we 68 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: didn't know what we were stepping into. So guys have 69 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: been working for the last six to eight weeks getting 70 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: the forty down, understanding how to do the three cone 71 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: and the ill drill and all the other drills that 72 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: you have to do. They've been working on the individual stuff. 73 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: And then the final part of it is, let's make 74 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: sure that we crushed the interview portion of this deal, 75 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: because this is the first time guys have got an 76 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: opportunity to really talk to you, not only about who 77 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: you are and what you're about, but to dig into 78 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: your football intelligence. Let's make sure we put on our 79 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: best showing to enhance our opportunities to being drafted early. 80 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: And look, I think we all understand that nobody's going 81 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: from the three player on everybody's board to the to 82 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: the player on everybody's board if they run a fast 83 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: board here, but it is a piece of the evaluation 84 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: process as we get closer to the NFL Draft, and 85 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: we'll keep kind of digging down on that as well 86 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: as we go through some of these position groups and 87 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: players that were excited to watch, but first look at 88 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: some guys we will not see in Indianapolis, Starting with 89 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: quarterback Matt Corral, still recovering from the high ankle spraining 90 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: he suffered an Old Miss Sugar Bowl lost to Baylor 91 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago that was thought to be 92 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: a six to eight week injury, and he is ahead 93 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: of schedule on that timeline, but not quite ready for 94 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: Indie expectation according to our Tom Pella sero, as he 95 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: will be full go, Matt Corral will be for his 96 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: Pro day on Marche. Much more on the quarterbacks that 97 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: will compete just ahead, all right, the best cornerback in 98 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: college football back in two thousand and nineteen is a 99 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: true freshman will not be able to work out in Indy. 100 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: That's l s use Derek Stingley Jr. Still recovering from 101 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: a foot injury that limited him to just a couple 102 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: of games this past season, and so he will have 103 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: an important Pro Day ahead of him. As he tries 104 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: to make his case that he can still be as 105 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: dominant as he was back in two thousand and nineteen, 106 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: and after an extended season for Alabama offensive tackle Evan 107 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: Neil following their National Championship game appearance, Neil will not 108 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: participate in the workout portion of the combine of prospect. 109 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: Both DJ and Bucky have mocked as the number one 110 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: overall pick of the Jacksonville Jaguars will now look ahead 111 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: to his pro day next month. Alright, good news though, 112 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: especially on two of the marquee position groups. As we 113 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: enter the combine, Edge rusher Aiden Hutchinson will work out 114 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 1: and at as the as one of the top offensive 115 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: tackles ikey A Kwandu from n C State will also 116 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: work out. So that good news, as those guys will 117 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: take top billing at their respective position groups in Indianapolis. 118 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: And as you look at this, Bucky, does the offensive 119 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: line resonate with you as one of the kind of 120 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: marquee groups to watch this week? Yeah? Thing, So I 121 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: think you need to keep your eyes on it because 122 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: all we have to do is look at the super 123 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: well and understand the importance of making sure that that 124 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: offensive line is together. DJ certainly has brought to light 125 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: that you don't necessarily need to have first round talents 126 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: to be able to field a Super Bowl champion, but man, 127 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: it certainly has your opportunity if you have good players. 128 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: And so when I think about this offensive tackle class, 129 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: particularly at the top of the board, but the Jacksonville 130 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: Jaguars will either have an offensive tackle or maybe a 131 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: pass rusher at the disposal, keep an eye on the 132 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: guys like you talking about a kuanu Uh channeler cross 133 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: and some of the other guys that you have there. 134 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: You got to make sure that you look at those 135 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: guys up front of the blocking for sure. I'm gonna 136 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: look at the cornerback position, guys, is one I'm really 137 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: excited to see. I mean think you know, each and 138 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: every year we get some of the fastest forty times 139 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: from that cornerback position. And I think this this year, 140 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: and I think I know you guys would agree. There 141 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: are some serious top shelf talent at the cornerback spots. 142 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: Starting with Sauce Gardner right there, Number one from Cincinnati, 143 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: did not allow a touchdown his entire career according to PFF. 144 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: Pretty good mark there that you see Andrew Booth from Clemson. 145 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: I mean, there are some guys who are gonna put 146 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: up some serious numbers here in this group, and I 147 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: feel like there's depth to find a really good player, 148 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, even as you get into the second, third, 149 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: fourth rounds. You know guys like look, DJ, you were 150 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: on him early, Washington's Kyler Gordon, and the more I've 151 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: watched of him as of late, really love the way 152 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: that dude competes in aggressive corner and kind of thrived, 153 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, getting a lot of that action. With Trim 154 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: McDuffie on the other side, his teams tried to move 155 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: away from him. So I'm really excited to see this 156 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: cornerback position. Uh, DJ, what about you? Yeah, I mean yeah, 157 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: I think we're all fans a big, fast and physical 158 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: and can play the ball. I mean that that's what 159 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: you saw there from Gordon. Uh. You guys have buried 160 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: the lead here though. Let's go edge rusher. This is 161 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: an edge rusher draft. That's where the strength is and 162 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: that's gonna be the case all throughout the first round 163 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: and well on in today two. These guys are gonna 164 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: test like freaks now, so you've got the excitement of 165 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: seeing them on tape. It's gonna match up with what 166 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: we see in the testing. And I'm talking about guys 167 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: like Jermaine Johnson who could run in the four fives 168 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: two earned sixty plus pounds. So Travan Walker is another 169 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: one who's going to run in the low four six 170 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: is most likely seventy plus pounds. So it's a it's 171 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: a dominant group. It's what this draft is all about. 172 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: And you talked about it, Bucky in that Super Bowl 173 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: where you had a team that couldn't block, well, you 174 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: also had a team that could get after the upfront 175 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: that just hoisted the trophy. So I think this is 176 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: gonna be the group that's highly coveted and they are 177 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: gonna go fast. Yeah, and DJ, your new top fifty 178 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: prospects list out now on NFL dot com, Hot and heavy, 179 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: and turns to the edge rushers at the very top 180 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: of that list. Will get to a couple of them 181 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: here more a little bit later in this show. But 182 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: let's now switch the focus from position to player. How 183 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: many player, DJ, that you were most excited to see 184 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: in this year's come by? Well, Garrett Wilson's my top 185 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: white out and this is a deep white out classes 186 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: we've had recently, and we're gonna continue to see that 187 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: trend going forward because that's what the college game has 188 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: given you. But you know, to me, he reminded me 189 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of Justin Jefferson and that he enters 190 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: this combine with really the only question just how fast 191 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: is he? Because you see the route running, you see 192 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: the playmaking, you see the play strength. He checks every 193 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: single box. Now, with Justin Jefferson, there was some talk, oh, 194 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: maybe he's gonna run in the flow four fives, and 195 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: he went out there and ripped off high four three. 196 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: I think Garrett Wilson's got a chance to do the 197 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: exact same thing and in my mind solidify himself as 198 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: the premier wide out in this draft class. Well, guys, 199 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with a wide out turned cornerback talking 200 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: about U T s a cornerback, Trek Woolen. I mean, look, 201 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: for one, he stands out. He is huge. He is 202 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: six three and a half as he was measured down 203 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl in Mobile and a pretty good 204 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: week down there. But the thing that stood out is, 205 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: you know they used the Zebra tracking technology Downomobile at 206 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and in all the years that they've 207 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: been using it. Trek Woolen was the fastest player on 208 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: the Zebra tracking technology throughout the entire week. He could run, 209 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: i'm told, somewhere between the high four twos and the 210 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: low four threes. And for a dude that big, that's 211 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: pretty exciting to me, especially for a guy you're still 212 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: pretty new to the cornerback position. I think those traits 213 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: are gonna be really enticing for a team hoping to 214 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: mold him into a real starting cornerback buck you know, Reddy, 215 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: you talk about trying to find someone to mold. I'm 216 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: looking at the quarterback position and I'm looking at Malik 217 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: Willis from Liberty. And one of the reasons why I 218 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: have my eyes on Malague Willis is because we're talking 219 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: about tools, and so much of what we've see from 220 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: these elite quarterbacks of late Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick 221 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: Mahomes guys who have outstanding physical gifts that it masked 222 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: and made up for the deficiencies that they may have. 223 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: And so when you're looking at the quarterback position and 224 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: we're talking about recent history where those guys who have 225 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: tools have popped, I'm looking at malague Willis because if 226 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: he dazzles doing his workout, I think you will see 227 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: creative offensive coordinators really make it push to make him 228 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: their next quarterback. Because tools give you an opportunity to 229 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: really expand the playbook with someone who is dynamic and 230 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: electric as a playmaker. And we are going to see 231 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: Malik Willis throw at the combine in prime time right 232 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: here on NFL Network Thursday night, A DJ and Rich 233 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: up in the booth for it. Can't wait, guys back 234 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: here on today's episode. Time to head back into the 235 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: body shop. Looking at the a f C East today, 236 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: and we're gonna start with the now back to back 237 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: a f C East champions here Buffalo, the Buffalo Bills. 238 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: Bucky of course, uh, your first team in the NFL 239 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: back in the second round draft pick of the Bills. 240 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: So this team is obviously built a terrific foundation with 241 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: Josh Allen leading the way. What can you see the 242 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: Bills doing to try to add to that foundation there? 243 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: But more playmakers, more playmakers all over the perimeter. You 244 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: want more speed. Imanuel Sanders may retire, so maybe you 245 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: look at why receiver, but really you gotta balance up 246 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: this offense. So Josh Allen doesn't have to do everything. 247 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: So maybe a big time running back, maybe they're running 248 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: back happens in the second or third round, but they 249 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: need someone who can tote them mail. So Josh Allen 250 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: doesn't have to do everything. Because if you balance it 251 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: out and now you're able to save Josh Allen and 252 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: preserve him where he only has to break out those 253 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: superhero powers in big moments, in big games, maybe in 254 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: the postseason. Now you get the best version of Josh 255 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: Allen because somebody else is also doing their share to 256 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: make sure that the running game is elevated. Yeah, I 257 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: think guys, this is a top three offense, top three defense, 258 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: so they're in a pretty good spot to really take 259 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: kind of the best available player. But to me, I 260 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: would look on that defensive line you saw that need 261 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: up there on the screen, particularly, get some some more 262 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: depth along that interior, be a little bit stout against 263 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: the run, give themselves more opportunities to rush the passer. 264 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: I could see that defensive front being an area they 265 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: continue to invest in. They did it last year with 266 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: Greg Russo and Boogie Basham. I wouldn't be surprised they 267 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: keep keep going back to that well, and just keep 268 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: adding to that defensive front. Yeah, and in that division. Look, 269 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: I think offensive line is always a great spot to 270 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: keep adding depth. But looking at the cornerback spot for 271 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: the Bills too, with Trendous White off the a c 272 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: L injury is one of the best corners you know 273 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: in football. Want to make sure that you've got somebody 274 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: that can slide in there if need be, or also 275 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: on the opposite side of chured Abs White when he's 276 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: fully healthy. So looking at a cornerback might be one 277 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: way to go. Uh and certainly could get that done, 278 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, second through fourth rounds and find a really 279 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: good player there as well. Let's move on now to 280 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: the new England Patriots here, guys. Uh So, the Patriots 281 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: obviously struck gold with mac Jones last year was our 282 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: top rated rookie passer as the number fifteen overall pick. 283 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: But Bucky, where do you see them going this year? 284 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: You know, whether it's free agency or in the draft 285 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: to really kind of help them get back to the 286 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: top of this division where they have not been in 287 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: now three years. Well, mac Jones was a present pleasant 288 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: surprise for the Pagris the way that he played Pro 289 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: Bowl player So now what you want to do is 290 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: you want to make sure you build around the quarterback. 291 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: We've seen the weapons that they have on the outside, 292 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: Nelson Agila Andreck Warne. Uh. They've been able to get 293 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: Jacoby Meyer's going, but they still need a big time playmaker, 294 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: a true number one. Maybe they can want to draft 295 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: and find that it hasn't worked out in the past, 296 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean that you don't stop doing I 297 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: think you have to go back and find a big 298 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: time weapon in the passing game. They help Mac Jonales out. Yeah, 299 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: I like the fact to getting him some some more 300 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: of weapons and just adding some more speed and talent 301 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: around him Buck. But you look on the defensive side 302 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: of the ball, I think free agency is gonna ticktate 303 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: what they end up doing in terms of who they lose. 304 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: They've got a couple of linebackers that are up. J. C. 305 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: Jackson's up. So you can look at the linebacker position, 306 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: you can look at the corner position. But I'm with you. 307 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: I think the guts of this team, the foundation of 308 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: this team is in pretty good shape. I think getting 309 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: some more playmakers, you know, be that on the offensive 310 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: side of the ball, weapons or on the defensive side 311 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: of the ball, guys that can take the ball away 312 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: and sorting out what they're gonna do with J. C. 313 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: Jackson will be a big part of that. Yeah, I mean, 314 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: it feels like a broken record talking about a team 315 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: here that it needs a corner I mean that definitely 316 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: might be the case for the New England Patriots. Although 317 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: they haven't really gone up up there in the first 318 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: round in terms of cornerbacks in quite some time. They've 319 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: they've definitely found a spot there in the second and 320 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: third round to to go after a guy in the 321 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: last few drafts as well. But I'm kind of curious DJ, 322 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: just a little bit because Bucky mentioned it, you know, 323 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: didn't work out with nikkil Harry is the first round 324 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: pick at wide receiver twenty one. You know, could be 325 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: a spot to find one there. But do you feel 326 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: like the you know, the issues that they had trying 327 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: to make it work with nikkil Harry in the first 328 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: round might preclude them from going that way again, you 329 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: know early in this draft. I don't think so, you know, 330 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: I look at the Ravens and how they operates very 331 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: similar to the to the Patriots. They have that same 332 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: DNA with Ozzie Newsome coming from Bill Belichick, and they've 333 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: missed on first round receivers. They've continued to go back 334 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: to that well and try and get it right. And 335 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: I think when you look inside that division with the 336 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, you better be able to score some points. Man. 337 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: So to me, the wide receiver position has taken on 338 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: more value because you can be the greatest defensive mind 339 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: of all time, and I think Bill Belichick is the 340 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: greatest defensive mind of all time. You're still gonna have 341 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: to score points to beat the Buffalo Bills inside that division. 342 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: And what do we think, guys, I mean, probably five 343 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: six wide receivers buck that go off in the first 344 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: round based on the talent in the depth of this group. Yeah, 345 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: the talent in the depth of this group. We've seen. 346 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: These wide receivers are now coming into the league ready 347 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: to play and ready to make immediate contributions. This is 348 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: another talent to class and I think for the next 349 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: five years we've been talking about the talent at playmaker position. 350 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: Pass catches are really able to be found everywhere. Yet 351 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: there you go, so it could be one right for 352 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: the taking. At one when the Patriots are on the clock. 353 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: All right, guys. One of the things that we talked 354 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: about with the combine is by now you started, you've watched, 355 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, a ton of tape on all these prospects, 356 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: and you have some grades that are very similar for 357 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: players at the same positions, and so you can use 358 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: pieces of the combine to help separate those players, whether 359 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: it be something that happened in an interview or something 360 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: that happened in testing or in an on field workout, 361 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: that kind of just helps provide a little separation. So 362 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: that's what we're doing here with traveling partners talking about 363 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: some running backs. Uh DJ. By the way, Bruce Hall 364 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: your number thirty five overall player, and Isaiah Spiller your 365 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: number thirty six overall player, and Buckey, these are two 366 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: of your top three running backs on your top five 367 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: positional rankings. So how could we use the combine here, 368 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: Bucky to maybe try to separate these guys out ahead 369 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: of the draft in April. Well, the one thing we 370 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: know about the National Football League is really about the 371 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: passing game, and so the way that we can separate 372 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: these two is to see who is the more natural 373 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: and potentially the most impactful pass catcher of the bunch. 374 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: When I think about Breeze All and what he's been 375 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: able to do throughout his time at our will stay. 376 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: This guy is just a touchdown machine. He's a swarm machine. 377 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: He puts the ball into paint consistently as a runner, 378 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: as a receiver, he brings a lot to the table. 379 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: When I look at Spiller, Spillers kind of like that 380 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: old school slugger that can run in between the tackles. 381 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: He finishes with power. He kind of wears you down 382 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: with more attempts and carries. Both of these guys are 383 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: terrific three down players. You have to make a determination 384 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: what style three down back do I like, because man, 385 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: it's really tough to pick between Hall and Spiller when 386 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: it comes to this evaluation. Yeah, you know the fascinating 387 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: thing about Matt Handle, the coach at Iowa State. You 388 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: go back to Kareem Hunt when he was at Toledo. 389 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: He's been able to identify and develop backs. You look 390 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: at Daved Montgomery, the job that he did with him, 391 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: and now you have Bruce Hall, who's as naturally and 392 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: as instinctive as any player. You want to talk about patients, 393 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: There are times where it looks like he's walking to 394 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage before he sees what he likes 395 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: to see. And then you see him hit the go 396 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: button and take off. He catches the ball and a 397 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: big time way out of the backfield. You see some 398 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: big time one handed catches. And then Isaiah Spiller, guys, 399 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: I thought maybe one thing that would would go in 400 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: his favorite little bit was the speed calm. I thought 401 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: he played a little bit faster than Bruce Hall, maybe 402 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: a little more sudden. But I've been doing a little recon, 403 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: doing a little homework, and I think Bruce Hall might 404 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: surprise us once he toes the line there in India 405 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: a little bit faster than we think. Well, look, I 406 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: mean a guy that put up twenty three touchdowns from 407 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: scrimmage second and all of fbs. You know, he can 408 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: get down the field in a hurry. And perhaps we'll 409 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: see that when he puts his hand on the line 410 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: at the forty yard dash as well. Let's move on 411 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: to another traveling partner tandem, and for this we'll go 412 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: to the linebackers. Look at that looks like two A 413 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: and three A there for Nakobe Dean and Kevin Lloyd 414 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: on that little puddle jumper into Indianapolis. So DJ tell 415 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: us how we're going to separate these two stud second 416 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: level players on the defensive side. Well, I think everybody's 417 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: gonna love meeting with him. Right, You're gonna love meeting 418 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: with these guys because the leadership is off the charts 419 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: from everything I've been told, the intelligence combination, the leadership combination, 420 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: what you want from these two guys. Now, you've got 421 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: different body types. You know, there's some teams Devin Lloyd 422 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be more to their liking because you're trying 423 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: to find that Darius Lennard. You're trying to find that 424 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: Fred Warner, that long range e off the ball linebacker. 425 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: Whereas Nakobe Deane to me, reminds me more of kind 426 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: of a throwback to a Jonathan Vilma type. Player. Is 427 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: a little bit under size, but just has tremendous instincts 428 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: um and everything he does is fast. Guys, he might 429 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: be under two or thirty pounds, but he sees it 430 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: and he goes um. He is an outstanding football player. 431 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: You talk to anybody at Georgia, Bucky, they will tell 432 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: you this guy was the leader of that dominant Georgia defense. Yeah, 433 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: when you look at the tape, you can say how 434 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: he is the pie piper of their defense. Everyone looks 435 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: to him. He has a commanding presence, natural leader. So 436 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: you love that. But coming off the heels of what 437 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons was able to do as a rookie, you're 438 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: gonna look for guys who have a little more versatility. 439 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: That's why Devin Lloyd can be attractive. When we look 440 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: at the tape, there's a lot that he brings to 441 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: the table. The first thing that stands out to me 442 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: is just a sheer effort. One of the things that 443 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: defensive coordinate is always talking about, I don't want to 444 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: have to coach you how to play hard well with 445 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd when he shows up. That is on his 446 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: calling card. This guy plays hard. He's a sideline the 447 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: sideline chaser. He pursues, and he also has natural instincts 448 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: in the passing game. Time and time again, when you 449 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: look at the tape, he gets his hands on the ball, 450 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: and we know interceptions in the National Football League typically 451 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: come off tips and overthrows. So when you have an 452 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: instinctive playmaker the second level, who can come after the 453 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: pastor who can run sideline the sideline, but also has 454 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: a knack for tipping the ball. The turnovers eventually going 455 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: to come because of that. There are a lot of 456 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: defensive coordinators that are going to fall in love with 457 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd when they spot. Yeah, you're talking about a 458 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: dude that's got GPS on the football. Four picks this year, 459 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: two of them returned for scores. Utah head coach Kyle 460 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: Whittingham calling Devin Lloyd best player he's coached on the 461 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, which is saying something there 462 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: at Utah and with that guy's time to go back 463 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: into the body shot. Finish up our conversations here on 464 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: the a f C East team, starting here with the 465 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: New York Jets, who I think we all agree had 466 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: a lot of work to do in the draft last 467 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: year and GM Joe Douglass and company did a really 468 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: nice job getting some big time players for their franchise 469 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: and certainly need to continue that trend this year. Still 470 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: plenty of holes to Phil Bucky. Where do we start, well, 471 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team that needs to make 472 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: sure their defense can carry water because you're dealing with 473 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: some great quarterbacks that will be in that division and 474 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go and find a second level playmaker 475 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: on defense at the linebacker position. I think you need 476 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: more speed, more energy, more impact at that spot. And 477 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: so I'm thinking in the draft and maybe you can 478 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: find someone not necessarily in the first round, in the 479 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: second round that can give you that immediate impact. C J. 480 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: Mosley has been solid, but man, they need more, more speed, 481 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: more sideline sideline playmakers to allow this defense to kind 482 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: of get out of the rut that they've been in 483 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: the last few years. I think you see a middle 484 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: round pick to go kind of upgrade that linebacker position. 485 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: I know they've got a lot of young players in 486 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: the secondary, a lot of first and second year guys. Uh. 487 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: You know, Bryce Hall I think is gonna be a 488 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: really good player in this league. But they need a 489 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: true number one corner. They've got to go find one 490 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: of those guys, a premier player that they can slot 491 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: in there on the outside. Then you can look at 492 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: the edge rusher position. You're gonna get Karl Lawson back 493 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: off the achilles he missed all last year. They're big 494 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: free agent signing, but I think adding another edge rusher 495 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: as well um this defense. You can look at the 496 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: safety position. They were the worst in the league. I mean, 497 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: so you've got needs all over the place. Fortunately, have 498 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: a lot of dollars to spend. They've got the most 499 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: draft capital of anybody in the league, so they're in 500 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: a great position to address those needs. And I would 501 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: add on the offensive side of the ball, there's some 502 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: needs there as well. I would say guard would be 503 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: pretty high up on that list. Put another guard in 504 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: their opposite of your first round pick last year Elijah 505 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: Vera Tucker who played great um, but they need to 506 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: upgrade that right guard position. I think that's something they 507 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: could address either in free age here in this upcoming draft. Yeah, 508 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: and look, I I think that's a great point. And 509 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: I think you can never when you have a young 510 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: quarterback and can never have too many targets. It feels 511 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: like it's been a while since we've had a top 512 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: shelf tight end uh wearing a New York Jets uniform. 513 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: And look, I know that there's one. It's not gonna 514 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: be in the first round conversation, maybe not in the 515 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: second or third, but a guy that Bucky and I 516 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: saw in Las Vegas at the East West Shrine Bowl, 517 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: Gelanni Woods from Virginia, a guy I'd love to see 518 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: down there is a big time target in terms of 519 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: physical stature and big playability for a young quarterback like 520 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson DJs. There's been some love out on the 521 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: NFL streets for the six ft six tight end from 522 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: the u V A. Well. I wrote in my notes 523 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: when I watched him, he was like one of those 524 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: moving billboards when you're driving down the highway and you 525 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: see those go Boy movie, That's what he looks like 526 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: when he's going down the scene. He is massive, and 527 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: guys hit him going full speed and he just kind 528 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: of kind of slats him away. Here. He's had some drops. 529 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: He needs to clean that up, but I'm looking forward 530 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: to watching them work out. Did still lead the A 531 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: C C in receptions for tight ends? All right, let's 532 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: move down to the Miami Dolphins. Here, of course, a 533 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: new leadership at the head coaching spot, with Mike McDaniel 534 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: coming over from the San Francisco forty Niners to assume 535 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: the head coaching role there in Miami. So as we 536 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: look at this one here, DJ, I mean, we were 537 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: talking about old lineman for the Jets. Same goes here 538 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: for the Dolphins. Yeah, I think old line. In free agency. 539 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: You know they drafted a lot of young guys on 540 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: that offensive line. Go out and get a proven veteran. 541 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: You can plug in the mix. You know exactly what 542 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: you're buying. You see the cap space. You got over 543 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: sixty million dollars to spend here, so that would be 544 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: an area I would look. And then you know, Buck 545 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: and I have been talking with this for a long 546 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: time about track team, right, this is one of those teams. 547 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: I think you put a track team around to a Tongallo, 548 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: He's extremely accurate and efficient. Underneath intermediate, you've got Jalen Waddle. 549 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: We saw what he did with the massive amount of 550 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: targets last year where the hunter catches. Man, what if 551 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: Jamison Williams from Alabama, who's coming off of that a 552 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: c L. It's a it's a standard a c L. 553 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: It should be a full recovery. You know, I might 554 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: have to miss maybe the first half of the season 555 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: this upcoming year, But man, can you imagine one slant 556 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: on one side to Waddle, you throw another one on 557 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: the other side to Jamison Williams. These are ten yard 558 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: throws have become sixty yard completions that would be fun 559 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: to watch. It would be fun to watch, you know what. Else, 560 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: it's fun to watch when Mike mc dani and those 561 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: guys get creative with the run game. So we know 562 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: how they traditionally do. When you run this Santean system, 563 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: you don't like to invest a first round pick in 564 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: a running back, but somewhere early they need to get 565 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: a legitimate dude and a straight line do who can 566 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: put his foot in the ground and is very decisive 567 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: and he fits that zone based scheme that has given 568 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: the league fits for like the last thirty years. And 569 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: so if they can get a big time runner behind 570 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: toy talking about LOA and they can run the r 571 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: P O s and the movement based passing game to 572 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: go with the game that really likes to do it 573 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: on the edges, then we can see this Miami Dolphins 574 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: offense put points up and see their quarterback finally play 575 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: at a comfortable level that was very similar to the 576 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: way that he played at Alabama. Yeah, probably not in 577 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: the first, second, third round conversation as one of the 578 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: first running backs off the board, but Bucky, I feel 579 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: like we might slowly be bringing DJ on board with 580 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: the FCS leader in rushing yards this year from South 581 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: Dakota State. Pierre Strong's recommendation, I listened to Bucky guy. 582 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: I gave him the Bucky bump Bucky lobby for him. 583 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: Listen that I'm bumped him up a little bit. Yeah, Okay, 584 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: you know we're just I'm gonna remember this next time 585 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: we have a phone conversation about prospects. Okay, uh that 586 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: that mayor Pierre Strong's name. May or may not have 587 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: come up, but that's okay. I love it. Guys. That's 588 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: the body shop forward today. Again. We'll keep doing this 589 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: throughout the next couple of weeks. Here, I'll move the 590 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: sticks as we put a division in focus each and 591 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: every week. Kyler Murray just completing his third season as 592 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals starting quarterback after they took him number 593 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: one overall in the NFL Draft, and there's been some 594 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: just kind of odd feelings recently since the season has ended. 595 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: Kyler of course scrubbing all that Cardinals mentions from his 596 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: social media and like you're wondering why, Well, it turns 597 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: out Cayla Murray's agent, Derek Burkhardt, released a statement today 598 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: outlining Kyler's desire to be the Cardinals franchise quarterback and 599 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: to get a contract extension. Certainly understand all of those 600 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: business aspects that come with being a franchise quarterback, and 601 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to figure out here. So, Bucky, 602 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: how how are you kind of digesting all of this 603 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: drama that we've seen take place down in the desert 604 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: with Kyler and the Cardinals. Look, it's there's a lot 605 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: of silliness coming from Cala Murray and his representative representatives 606 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to wanting a contract extension. Is one 607 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: thing to want the contract contension, It's another thing to 608 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: go about it in the right manner. When you are 609 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: a team coming off a very disappointing loss in the 610 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs, in which your quarterback Cala Murray, 611 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: who wants to contract extension, didn't play well and maybe 612 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: has not exhibited a level leadership qualities. It's hard to 613 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: go public and be so bold with your demands. And 614 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: so as we talk about quarterbacks, we can talk about 615 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: their physical talents, but it's a leadership position and right now, 616 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: I don't think Cala Murray has exhibited the kind of 617 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: leadership that you want from your QB one, and he 618 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: and his representatives have to figure out how to make 619 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: this right, so ownership would feel great about giving him 620 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: the contract while not necessarily making a situation where's Kyler 621 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: versus the rest of the team when it comes to 622 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: his standing in the locker room. If you were the 623 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals and you were trying to make Kyler maybe a 624 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: little bit more happy about the way he feels about 625 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: the organization, is there a player or position that they 626 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: could address, whether free agency or or draft to kind 627 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: of accomplished that. Well, Look, I mean, on the outside, 628 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: christ and Kirk is a free agent. They gotta figure 629 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: ot whe they're gonna do with a j. Green, So 630 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: they have to give him another weapon to go with 631 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. And then remember James Connor is also a 632 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: free agent, so running back while receiving to get a mastion. 633 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: They take care of that, okay. And so a reminder, 634 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: the NFL scouting Combine is coming up here on Thursday. Quarterbacks, Whiteouts, 635 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: and tight ends kick things off four pm Eastern Time. 636 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: You can check out a big portion of that workout 637 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: in prime time as the next couple of days well 638 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: as well Friday and Saturday Friday, you get the running 639 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: backs in the old line. Saturday d line and linebackers, 640 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: and then Sunday all eyes on those defensive backs in 641 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: an afternoon affair two pm Eastern Time inside Lucas Oil Stadium, 642 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: all right here on NFL Network. Can't wait for that. 643 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: We've all got planes to get to get out to Indianapolis. 644 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun. Guys, really looking 645 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: forward to You know what we used the combine for, 646 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: like we were saying just earlier in this show, a 647 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: chance to separate some prospects, learn a little bit more 648 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: about them than that's. Uh, that's our goal here for 649 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks as well as we get 650 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: closer to the NFL Draft. Thanks so much for being 651 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: here with us on this move the six Monday. We'll 652 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: catch you later this week, ye