Speaker 1: Are you leaving? I you wanna way back home? Either way,
Speaker 1: we want to be there. Doesn't matter how much baggage
Speaker 1: you claim and give us time and a terminal and gay.
Speaker 1: We want to send you off InStyle. We wanna welcome
Speaker 1: you back home. Tell us all about it. We scared her?
Speaker 1: Was it fine? Malborn?
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 2: Ride with Karen and Chris welcome to Do you need
Speaker 2: a ride? This is Chris.
Speaker 1: Fairbanks and this is Karen Kilgarriff.
Speaker 2: Karen Kilgarriff.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you noticed, but I cut off
Speaker 3: my cartoonish hair.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny? I should have noticed, and I
Speaker 1: actually didn't.
Speaker 3: Well, it's still got. It's just I'm not gonna hear anymore.
Speaker 3: Carrot top side show. Bob comments, you've shaped it, you
Speaker 3: sculpted it? It is, Yes, it's more rounded and more
Speaker 3: like a nineteen eighty eight dad.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and is that what you asked for?
Speaker 3: I already yes, I brought in pictures of different dads
Speaker 3: from television.
Speaker 2: Nice and the guy obliged.
Speaker 3: But I've yeah, I can already tell people are treating
Speaker 3: me with respect and no one's going to pick any
Speaker 3: fights with me.
Speaker 2: Me hippie at a laundromat.
Speaker 3: That was kind of a sketchy situation. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: just wanted you to know because I don't know if
Speaker 3: you were a big fan of my cartoon clown hair.
Speaker 1: I didn't. Now that it's gone, I can say I
Speaker 1: did not like it, because can I say why?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: First of all, because we're friends and I'm honest.
Speaker 4: With you, Yes, please.
Speaker 1: The ends, first of all, look like you were doing
Speaker 1: joke hare. So anytime people do presentational stuff with their
Speaker 1: person I just go like, take it easy. But you're
Speaker 1: not the type to do that. But it looked like
Speaker 1: you were doing it. Then I was like, hey, especially quarantine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he can do what he wants.
Speaker 3: When I was on stage, that's when it dawned on me,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I have comedic hair. Yes, walking around
Speaker 3: during this pandemic, I didn't have comedy. I needed some
Speaker 3: kind of an outlet. It might as well be my hair.
Speaker 3: But you said the ends, the actual split ends, you
Speaker 3: weren't a fan of it.
Speaker 1: Seems like I don't know if there was split I
Speaker 1: never got to be that close to you, but it
Speaker 1: had a flyaway like a kind of presentation. And you're right,
Speaker 1: I think when you're on stage and you're doing like
Speaker 1: funny stuff with your presence, I don't know what your image.
Speaker 2: My physical my pratfalls and all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing to play again. Suddenly it's like, look
Speaker 1: the clown is here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So then it's like, right, Hong Kong, get on with it.
Speaker 1: Whereas when you come on and you have you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes when you like gel your hair down and you
Speaker 1: kind of look like you're from the twenties, then people
Speaker 1: are like, oh, look at this dapper gentleman and boom,
Speaker 1: here come the hard jokes. Yeah, they don't see it coming. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a total shock.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 3: There has to be that contrast because my material certainly
Speaker 3: isn't dapper or gentlemanly. Rite I really pushed the envelope.
Speaker 3: Speaking of envelope pushing and physical comedy.
Speaker 2: You know, our guests today from Karen doesn't He.
Speaker 1: Does clubs and colleges all over the country.
Speaker 3: Comedy clubs and colleges, right, both numerous colleges. He actually
Speaker 3: and I wanted to talk to him about it. He
Speaker 3: made the funniest video. I don't think that he's celebrated
Speaker 3: enough for his physical comedy, but we'll talk to him
Speaker 3: about it. Everyone think, hey, Manoir, Hey.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me. I
Speaker 4: didn't know I do so many colleges. I'm learning about
Speaker 4: my career.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we say that, and I think we have yet
Speaker 3: to have a comic that's done to college in the
Speaker 3: last ten years.
Speaker 1: But it really goes. It's all the k sounds in
Speaker 1: the intro. Yeah, it makes it seem like you're doing
Speaker 1: things people don't even know sure are possible, right and everywhere, Yeah, everywhere.
Speaker 4: I love that. That's such a boiler plate intro. When
Speaker 4: you bring up another comic, it's like this next guy.
Speaker 4: Clubs and colleges all over, Like people are impressed just
Speaker 4: by the sheer quantity. Me too, all over both Wow,
Speaker 4: clubs and colleges.
Speaker 3: But to us that is impressive because I only go
Speaker 3: to two colleges. I have an ability with bringing up
Speaker 3: something I found online or saw once that the comic
Speaker 3: is not at all out of But I have a
Speaker 3: feeling you are proud of yours.
Speaker 4: Well. I like that. I like the deep dive b
Speaker 4: side more than something everyone has seen. Yeah, because there's
Speaker 4: like a deeper level of appreciation and understanding. So when
Speaker 4: it's the thing no one else points to, I love that.
Speaker 2: Well now I hope no one has.
Speaker 3: I mean it was sort of recent, maybe two years ago,
Speaker 3: but you did a self tape audition for the Invisible
Speaker 3: Man movie. And I don't know if you've seen it, Karen,
Speaker 3: but he just I mean it's he's basically so you're
Speaker 3: the Invisible Man, huh, and.
Speaker 2: Then he just beats himself up.
Speaker 3: But your ability to throw a punch and have it
Speaker 3: seem like an invisible person is holding your arm up
Speaker 3: and then making you hit your own self in the balls.
Speaker 2: I watched that over and over.
Speaker 3: You're not even saying much in it, but your physical
Speaker 3: ability is unprecedented.
Speaker 4: That's deeply appreciated. Like that that was one take, believe
Speaker 4: it or not? Really one take? Yeah, And what's absurd
Speaker 4: is like that Instagram video made it into the Comedy
Speaker 4: Store documentary on Showtime. I'm like watching it and I'm like,
Speaker 4: that's what you picked from me? Just an Instagram video
Speaker 4: I made during quarantine.
Speaker 3: Here's something you may not have known. I edited that
Speaker 3: Comedy Central documentary.
Speaker 4: Ah, that's why you put it in there. You have
Speaker 4: a soft spot. Okay, Okay, I am the biggest fan.
Speaker 4: Now it makes sense.
Speaker 3: You're an Invisible Man self tape.
Speaker 4: I mean, I just remember I was watching that movie
Speaker 4: with this girl I was dating at the time, and
Speaker 4: we're watching the it's it's a drama, The Invisible Man,
Speaker 4: you know, the reboot with uh yeah, is it Elizabeth
Speaker 4: moss Yep. Yeah. So but then that scene happens in there,
Speaker 4: like I pretty much it's almost like I'm just making
Speaker 4: fun of that scene, Like I just bust out laughing
Speaker 4: in the middle of this drama, and I'm like, thank God,
Speaker 4: Like I'm watching this during Quarantine because I would have
Speaker 4: to leave the movie theater. I was laughing so hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only one laughing because you saw a lot
Speaker 3: of your moves.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's supposed to be terrifying.
Speaker 1: I saw it in the theater and I had the
Speaker 1: same reaction where I really loved the house that it
Speaker 1: started in or she went to where I was like,
Speaker 1: this is an amazing architecture or whatever, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's not the point of this. And then my friend
Speaker 1: was like raving about it, and I was like, so
Speaker 1: you love it when people look around? Because that was
Speaker 1: the entire movie was just her like looking like really
Speaker 1: dramatically looking around a room. It's like that. It was
Speaker 1: truly like thirty solid minutes if you edited just those
Speaker 1: parts together where she's like, he's there but she can't see.
Speaker 4: Yes, he's in business.
Speaker 3: The search the movie should have been as long as
Speaker 3: Fame's video. What I don't like about that film if
Speaker 3: we're going to keep talking about and we are, this
Speaker 3: whole podcast is about The Invisible Man.
Speaker 2: I hope you're ready.
Speaker 1: Every single hard pivot, it's.
Speaker 3: Just another movie where everyone she knows that she trusts,
Speaker 3: like her closest friend, no one believes her her own sister.
Speaker 3: And it gets so frustrating when that is the because
Speaker 3: of course Sarat gonna believe her, but that's the whole movie.
Speaker 4: No one believes her, and it's like, ah, but I
Speaker 4: watched the whole thing, Well, yeah, someone believes her. The
Speaker 4: movie's over, right.
Speaker 2: I suppose that would throw a wrench in it.
Speaker 4: The lesson is believe all women. I think from Invisible Man,
Speaker 4: that is the takeaway.
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't see it coming, but it's
Speaker 3: a very, very arguably the most important film of this decade,
Speaker 3: I'm going to say.
Speaker 1: And of the women's movement, yeah, I think, And that's
Speaker 1: very few women actually saw that movie and it's doing
Speaker 1: a lot of work on their behalf, So we got
Speaker 1: to get the word out.
Speaker 3: It probably is in the women's movement category. On Netflix.
Speaker 3: Everyone they have these categories sometimes like black Lives, and
Speaker 3: they'll just have the most They should be ashamed at
Speaker 3: some of the are you listening Netflix? I always like
Speaker 3: to build good relationships with people that could make or
Speaker 3: break my career.
Speaker 2: What am I doing?
Speaker 4: I like when they change the thumbnail on me, like
Speaker 4: now I'm going to watch it, Like okay, I like
Speaker 4: this thumbnail.
Speaker 3: What if you see an actual scene from the movie
Speaker 3: and not a the poster.
Speaker 1: I like the auto play of a scene from the
Speaker 1: movie starts and I have a reaction. I think this
Speaker 1: is also being stuck in a house for a year
Speaker 1: and a half. But it's almost like if it's something
Speaker 1: I don't want to watch or I'm not interested in,
Speaker 1: if the auto play starts, I rush to like flip forward,
Speaker 1: where it's like it's fine if you hear part of
Speaker 1: a movie you're not going to watch, Like I have
Speaker 1: some very strange reaction, like if it starts, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to watch it, and then then where will I be.
Speaker 4: I have the same anxiety when it auto plays. I
Speaker 4: don't like it. I have to get it off of it.
Speaker 2: Yep, I agree, it's a bad choice.
Speaker 3: Plus I click on the movie sometimes because I want
Speaker 3: to see the end of that scene and then you're disappointed,
Speaker 3: like the start of the whole movie.
Speaker 2: I don't have time for that.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to see how that argument ended and
Speaker 3: Act three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought I was the only one freaked out
Speaker 4: with the AutoPlay. It's sort of too much pressure. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's sort of like clicking on a sponsored ad. I
Speaker 4: feel so bad. I feel like I set myself back,
Speaker 4: like all the good will I've been like avoiding all
Speaker 4: these commercials, but then when I accidentally click on a
Speaker 4: banner ad that pops up, you know how, like a
Speaker 4: little a web page, and then it kind of shifts
Speaker 4: to the left a bit, and they're like, ah, fuck,
Speaker 4: you got me. And I accidentally clicked on a banner post.
Speaker 4: Then I feel like I'm gonna get a bunch more
Speaker 4: of those. And that's what it feels like with the AutoPlay, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just end up accidentally watching Marge, Sampson and
Speaker 3: Homer in some sexual situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or like on Netflix, the algorithm might think you
Speaker 1: like that because you somehow were interacting with it. I
Speaker 1: think it's that I'm always so embarrassed when I see
Speaker 1: things I've been watching where it's like, oh, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want people to come in and be like, are you really?
Speaker 1: Are you an alien theorist? Like what's happening here that
Speaker 1: you're well?
Speaker 4: You know what's even more intimate than that is when
Speaker 4: your YouTube page comes up, because that gets way more
Speaker 4: niche like, Netflix is kind of a little window into
Speaker 4: what you want, and you're not going to be that.
Speaker 4: You might be a little embarrassed, but if someone sees
Speaker 4: your YouTube splash page, that's like a diary.
Speaker 3: Yeah really is that someone would think I work on
Speaker 3: Honda chords for because that's all I've looked on YouTube
Speaker 3: is how to put on hubcaps and headlights.
Speaker 1: I look at a lot of these days. I think
Speaker 1: I look a lot of at a lot of people
Speaker 1: reading tarot cards based on your sign, which is not
Speaker 1: necessarily something I like it. I think it's kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: But it's not like you would think I lived my
Speaker 1: life by these readings because there are so many of
Speaker 1: them on there, because I'll just kind of let them
Speaker 1: play through or like. But then when those automatic ads
Speaker 1: come up, I always notice how mad I get. You know,
Speaker 1: you have to wait five seconds, yeah before, and then
Speaker 1: you can click then you can skip it. There's one
Speaker 1: lady that's at the beginning of one ad. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what it's for. When she starts talking, it's like,
Speaker 1: I fucking hate this lady, and it's like, you don't,
Speaker 1: you don't. It's fine, like you get to click off.
Speaker 1: It's only five seconds, but she's my enemy for sure.
Speaker 4: I get it. My pep peeve is like when you're
Speaker 4: watching maybe an hour long video on YouTube and you
Speaker 4: hit pause and then you leave the house and you
Speaker 4: come back to it later that night and you hit
Speaker 4: play and they play ads, and I'm like, you don't
Speaker 4: get to do that, Okay, I wasn't at an AD point.
Speaker 4: You just know that I left the house for a
Speaker 4: couple hours and you're trying to stuff some ads. I
Speaker 4: hit back. I don't let them have the satisfaction.
Speaker 3: I watch a new video, we just thought maybe you
Speaker 3: were at the store that whole time and you maybe
Speaker 3: forgot to purchase.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't get to squeeze in new ads because
Speaker 4: I hit pause.
Speaker 1: Last year I bought the Always Pan. Have you ever
Speaker 1: seen the ad for the always Pan?
Speaker 4: No? Wait, what is it? How is it?
Speaker 1: It's like, well, first of all, the lady pronounces it
Speaker 1: the always Pond, and so I was watching it and
Speaker 1: just laughing at first, but then the longer I watched
Speaker 1: the video, it was like the perfect skillet. Basically, it's like.
Speaker 2: It's codd you can always use it, yes.
Speaker 1: And there's like a steam basket in it, and there's
Speaker 1: all these ways to use it Always Pan. And I
Speaker 1: ended up buying one for my sister and my cousin
Speaker 1: Kim for Christmas. And I was just like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is this is I'm the dream person right now that
Speaker 1: like stumbled upon, watched the whole ad and then bought
Speaker 1: several of the products, Like how often does that happen?
Speaker 4: Right? That's the jackpot? So you love the Pan? Huh?
Speaker 1: I love it. I actually really do love the always Pond?
Speaker 2: But do you always every day? Ah comedy? Have you
Speaker 2: ever bought anything like that online? Fame. Have you just
Speaker 2: like impulse infomercial purchase.
Speaker 4: Not the not like infomercial, but like I did get
Speaker 4: on the cast iron skillet kick for a bit, and
Speaker 4: I was watching a lot of YouTube videos on that,
Speaker 4: like how to what's it called? This called something your pants? Yes,
Speaker 4: he's in your pan? All that? How to clean the pan?
Speaker 4: So that, And then I was on an air frier
Speaker 4: kick for a while. I bought people air fryers. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was like the Oprah for my podcast they did
Speaker 4: like I did an airfire giveaway. I was like, I
Speaker 4: go tell me why you deserve one, and I'll send
Speaker 4: you one. And then I sent one for like to
Speaker 4: like two or three people.
Speaker 1: Nice. Wait, are you a big believer because someone just
Speaker 1: me an air fire?
Speaker 4: Oh my god? Yes, okay, I'm a big fan.
Speaker 1: What's the good?
Speaker 2: What can you do with this?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: It please? Okay, okay, all right. So there's so many
Speaker 4: levels as to why it's great. Just on a baseline
Speaker 4: level reheating food alone, it's worth it for that. It's
Speaker 4: a time machine. It doesn't taste like something you reheated
Speaker 4: in the microwave. It like if you put pizza in there.
Speaker 4: It's like the first time. You got it. So even
Speaker 4: just for like reheating pizza, let's say, and.
Speaker 2: I'm already sold you had to do that, But there's more,
Speaker 2: there's more.
Speaker 4: There's no way, is my opening argument.
Speaker 2: Okay, still sitting in the studio audience.
Speaker 4: Yes, tater tots in seven minutes. I mean, come on,
Speaker 4: that's too quick. There's no way they're as good as
Speaker 4: my normal half hour. But they are, and they're crispy
Speaker 4: and they're perfect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I clap.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can do salmon in it. You can do steak,
Speaker 4: and well steak. I have a little hybrid method I'll do.
Speaker 4: I'll start it out in the air fire, but then
Speaker 4: I'll finish it on the ski. It to like crust it.
Speaker 3: I notice you're mentioning things that aren't traditionally fried, though,
Speaker 3: what about everyone's American favorite French fries.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you could throw that in there. I mean, look,
Speaker 4: it's not like oil that you're dunking it in. And
Speaker 4: then frying supposedly is healthier healthy. Yeah, we'll say that it's.
Speaker 1: Healthier, but it makes you think it's not. It tastes
Speaker 1: like it isn't.
Speaker 4: Uh no, it just it does fries well, it does
Speaker 4: like Mazzarelli sticks, like, oh boy, any of those type
Speaker 4: of foods are like chicken nuggets, but you could do
Speaker 4: proper food like salmon, and it's like way shorter time
Speaker 4: than an oven. I feel like the microwave is for
Speaker 4: like pasta, and that's it.
Speaker 3: I use my microwave a lot lately, and I do
Speaker 3: feel like kind of a loser when I depend on
Speaker 3: the microwave.
Speaker 4: It's still good. There's a time and place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but not every day.
Speaker 2: Not every day.
Speaker 4: You use it every day I have been, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you're cooking in it like I.
Speaker 3: Actually, you know, I reheat my leftovers and then I
Speaker 3: you know, I do that probably every other day. So
Speaker 3: every other day I feel like a loser because of
Speaker 3: my microwave.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're reheating. That's not as bad.
Speaker 1: That's what it's for.
Speaker 3: I've already sold me on the air fire. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: get one. I'm not gonna wait and sleep on it
Speaker 3: like I did the Floaby and then you get it
Speaker 3: twenty years later and it doesn't even work with curly hair.
Speaker 4: The wait did you do it? I did get a floaby? Yeah,
Speaker 4: hold on, when did you get it?
Speaker 2: About ten years ago?
Speaker 4: It had the it was you remember the Floby man Like,
Speaker 4: I don't know anyone who's actually purchased one. So this
Speaker 4: is like a gold mine for me, Like, yeah, it
Speaker 4: is getting to relive a conversation I never got to have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well ask away. I mean you do have to
Speaker 3: hook it up to a conventional vacuum with a shop bag. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a shop back. Maybe it would have worked on my hair.
Speaker 4: Okay, so any vacuum cleaner you attach it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I had an old tired red devil, But
Speaker 3: if I had had a shop back, I think it
Speaker 3: probably would have.
Speaker 4: We just would have ripped it out of your head.
Speaker 4: If it was a shop.
Speaker 3: It's just just a bald, bloody patch. Wow, that is short,
Speaker 3: but yeah, that is. It even has the as scene
Speaker 3: on TV logo.
Speaker 1: How many times did you cut your hair with it?
Speaker 2: One time?
Speaker 1: Time?
Speaker 2: Two times?
Speaker 4: Sorry, just start singing, that's part for the course, for
Speaker 4: the flow be like, no one's like I've used it
Speaker 4: eighty seven times. I think, yeah, it's once for the
Speaker 4: novelty and you go, I can never do this again.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a lot like my massager that I just got.
Speaker 3: You really need to not live alone, you think you're
Speaker 3: gonna just this will be great. I'm gonna cut my
Speaker 3: hair on my own all day and you kind of
Speaker 3: need someone's help.
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, Like what the did it not look
Speaker 4: great when you did it?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not going to hire someone to come over
Speaker 3: and cut I might as well go to a hair
Speaker 3: couver if I'm involving a second person.
Speaker 4: But you have like great curls and stuff. I feel like,
Speaker 4: thank you. Yeah, the curls can like hide a lot
Speaker 4: of the approximation of a haircut, so you could do
Speaker 4: it on your own.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have before. Yeah, it's just in the back there.
Speaker 3: There's a bit of a problem if I do if
Speaker 3: I go.
Speaker 4: You ever noticed during the pandemic though, because of zoom,
Speaker 4: like it was almost like those sets when you're in
Speaker 4: a Hollywood lot. You just had to look good from
Speaker 4: like here to hear, and no one knew what a
Speaker 4: wreck it was, you know, they just have like the
Speaker 4: front of a house at like paramount, like that was
Speaker 4: your faith. It was great because you didn't have to
Speaker 4: get ready as long as you normally would, because you
Speaker 4: have to be three dimensionally good looking in the real
Speaker 4: world when there's no pandemic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could do you have to rotate and public.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but when you're on Zoom you're just two dimensional.
Speaker 4: You're like super Nintendo and like, as long as this
Speaker 4: looks good, your money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then little did they know and back there's
Speaker 3: leave some band aids.
Speaker 4: There's twigs.
Speaker 2: In your special theme you dance that.
Speaker 3: I like that bit where you're like all comics dance
Speaker 3: at the beginning of when they're brought out. What if
Speaker 3: you kept dancing and behem dances Karen for like I
Speaker 3: think three minutes. Yeah, first of all, you're a good
Speaker 3: Do you ever dance seriously or are you just jokingly
Speaker 3: really good at dancing?
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting, like sometimes I will dance seriously,
Speaker 4: but because because sometimes I'll dance on my Instagram just
Speaker 4: like because I like a song and it's fun, and
Speaker 4: you sometimes I think that things could just be entertaining.
Speaker 4: Sometimes we forget his comedians or there's this thought like
Speaker 4: I gotta be biting and the smartest guy in the room.
Speaker 4: Sometimes things can just be like joyful and entertaining. And
Speaker 4: so sometimes I'll just post a dance video just because
Speaker 4: I like the song and I like the dance or whatever.
Speaker 4: But then people because I'm a comedian, like whire is
Speaker 4: it crossed? Thee are like, that's hilarious, and a little
Speaker 4: of me is like heart like, it's not supposed to
Speaker 4: be hilarious. But I'm glad you took something away from it.
Speaker 3: The main thing I took away is that at the
Speaker 3: end of your three minute dance you appear to be
Speaker 3: not at all out of breath. So then I wondered,
Speaker 3: what other physical Are you a runner? Do you swim
Speaker 3: all day? How the hell were you not breathing?
Speaker 1: Do you train? Were you trained?
Speaker 2: Isa?
Speaker 4: That'd be funny if I trained for my special just
Speaker 4: for that three minute dance bit, like I was just
Speaker 4: doing holding my breath underwater and like cycling.
Speaker 1: And Debbie Allen is there, yeah making stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm training with whim Hoff for breathing techniques just
Speaker 4: to do this dance bit. No, I mean just like
Speaker 4: regular gym stuff. And it was just like that slice
Speaker 4: that was kind of I don't know, physical, but I
Speaker 4: was okay after it. But if I have two shows
Speaker 4: and you do a weekend somewhere and you do something
Speaker 4: like that, you're pretty sweaty by the second show.
Speaker 1: You can't wear your silk shirt. Are you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I used to wear silk get the pits. I
Speaker 4: could do silk for like a five minute set, you know,
Speaker 4: but once if they tell me it's gonna be twenty minutes,
Speaker 4: I go, I can't. I can't wear that kind of fabric.
Speaker 3: Did you ever get caught up in the nineties with
Speaker 3: this silk boxer craze fahim.
Speaker 4: No, I never even really got caught up in the
Speaker 4: box or face like I was. I was like whitey
Speaker 4: tidies for the longest time. Oh wow, just because my
Speaker 4: mom would buy the and like I really didn't give
Speaker 4: a shit about like fashion or underwear. It's just easier,
Speaker 4: Like my mom got it. I don't want to go
Speaker 4: to the store. So I would do whitey tidies for
Speaker 4: a long time. And then boxers felt like too much freedom.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I need boundaries.
Speaker 1: I need constraints as a dancer.
Speaker 4: You can't have it all hanging out. Come on, you
Speaker 4: have to Yeah, it needs to be rained in. And
Speaker 4: then as I got older, I graduated a boxer briefs.
Speaker 4: It was a nice I think hyper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, see, that's what everyone should have done. Regular boxers
Speaker 3: were stiff, unstretchable cotton. For a while, I was getting
Speaker 3: silk ones. I think my dad was getting them for me.
Speaker 3: You should have fancy adult underpants. But they defied gravity
Speaker 3: and they would pillow up just throughout the day. You
Speaker 3: had a wedgie. I don't know what was pulling them
Speaker 3: up to the sky. Yeah, but inevitably they just rip
Speaker 3: in the crotch. You do one karate kick or one
Speaker 3: comedic kick and came from front to back.
Speaker 4: Just but also feels too sensual, like to be wearing
Speaker 4: silk boxers every day, that type of friction.
Speaker 3: At my age, I was like fourteen, I shouldn't have
Speaker 3: had the sensual.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's too ticklish, like, uh, if you're in the
Speaker 4: porn industry or something, all right, if you're if you
Speaker 4: need to excite your day to day. But that's not
Speaker 4: like the Hondel Court of underwear.
Speaker 1: That's like you're trying to you you have a secret,
Speaker 1: and maybe, like in the Bull Durham Way, you're trying
Speaker 1: to distract yourself from something else you're worried about, so
Speaker 1: you have special underwear.
Speaker 4: Of yes, it's a mental thing. Doesn't seem very really,
Speaker 4: it's not practical. It's not a practical underwear. Where'd you
Speaker 4: grow up Seattle.
Speaker 3: Oh, the rainy, the rainy, the old needle, the.
Speaker 1: Old funny in Seattle proper HUTU.
Speaker 4: No, like the burbs, like first Lindwood, then Woodenville. My
Speaker 4: parents are in Woodenville.
Speaker 2: You ever spend time in Kirkland.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, come on, man, my brother's in Kirkland. I'll
Speaker 4: check it out almost every year. I know all the towns.
Speaker 3: Dude, any relation to Kirkland. The signature bridge is yeah,
Speaker 3: I see. I didn't even know that, but I assumed it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they make good stuff Kirkln. Huh.
Speaker 1: Did you ever have seasonal depressive disorder because you lived
Speaker 1: in the rain?
Speaker 4: I don't think so. You know, people are always like,
Speaker 4: oh man, did it sucked being in the rain or
Speaker 4: redepressed all the time? But when you grow up there,
Speaker 4: you don't know any different, you know, so like maybe
Speaker 4: if I was a transplant, like if you came from
Speaker 4: la and then lived in Seattle, that might be tough,
Speaker 4: But I had no I just thought that's the way
Speaker 4: life is.
Speaker 1: Did you ever see any grunge bands, like before they
Speaker 1: were huge in the wild.
Speaker 4: I was too young. I was like in middle school
Speaker 4: in high school when it was the big grunge like
Speaker 4: Nirvana and like who does Black Hole Sun, like Sound Garden,
Speaker 4: Pearl Jam, all those guys. But I was into like
Speaker 4: nineties gangster rap, like the Chronic dog Food by the
Speaker 4: dog Pound, Doggy Style by Snoop Dogg. I was all
Speaker 4: about that, all about dogs. I was all about dogs.
Speaker 2: Do you still listen? I still listen to really nineties
Speaker 2: hip hop?
Speaker 3: I actually need to update my hip hop knowledge, but
Speaker 3: because I still just go back to the nineties.
Speaker 4: I'm so out of touch. Man, like I listened to
Speaker 4: I was like really into rap, you know when I
Speaker 4: was growing up, like nineties gangster rep and then even
Speaker 4: some like p Diddy, Mace, They's big, Like that was
Speaker 4: my jam. But then I got into dance music in
Speaker 4: high school and I just didn't keep up with rap.
Speaker 4: So nowadays I used to have no idea, Wait, were
Speaker 4: you like a raver? I have this weird relationship with
Speaker 4: like music and dance. Like I'm a huge officionado and
Speaker 4: like I scrub for tracks like on Spotify all the time.
Speaker 4: Almost every day, I'm searching for new music and I
Speaker 4: can dance. But I never went to nightclubs. I never
Speaker 4: like went to raves. I would just do all this
Speaker 4: stuff privately.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like a religion. You know, some people
Speaker 4: go to church, but I had like a personal relationship
Speaker 4: with music.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: I grew up not that far away in Missoula, Montana,
Speaker 3: and anytime we went to Seattle or just part way
Speaker 3: to Spokane as a teenager, you want to go to
Speaker 3: an all ages dance clubs. So I've probably been to
Speaker 3: more dance clubs, oh, probably in Spokane areas than you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. And sometimes because like people on Instagram
Speaker 4: on the videos, when they're not laughing at me, the
Speaker 4: ones who actually like the videos, they'll be like WHOA,
Speaker 4: like you must you must get all the chicks, or
Speaker 4: you must have cleaned house because you could dance like that.
Speaker 4: But then I always think, like, how do you parlay
Speaker 4: that into getting chicks? Because it's just like I understand
Speaker 4: the girls like guys who could dance, but like to
Speaker 4: enter that scenario, it's very awkward, the iterations of it.
Speaker 4: So what I show up to the club by myself
Speaker 4: and then I just start dancing and hopefully the girl
Speaker 4: like I look like a weirdo. I'm just by myself dancing,
Speaker 4: even if it's good it's like, what's the backstory here?
Speaker 4: This guy's creepy, and then what's the alternative? I come
Speaker 4: with my buddy.
Speaker 3: I think about it all the time. How do you
Speaker 3: segue from? Because when I dance anywhere, it's by myself.
Speaker 3: It's a solo street style. I don't involve I don't
Speaker 3: know how to dance with another person. So you do
Speaker 3: your moves and then you pretend. The only way I
Speaker 3: can dance is if I pretend no one is there.
Speaker 3: If I start acknowledging another person, I hover above myself
Speaker 3: and I see the human situation I'm in, and suddenly
Speaker 3: the concept of dancing.
Speaker 2: Is so ridiculous.
Speaker 3: This happened the other night. I went to this place
Speaker 3: by my house. People were dancing, and I just was
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what are we doing as humans? We're
Speaker 3: moving our bodies to this sound. The last thing I'm
Speaker 3: going to do is try and get it tap.
Speaker 4: Like if you go by yourself, you're like a SimCity character.
Speaker 4: Like if I dance, if I dance close enough to
Speaker 4: these girls at a bar, they'll be.
Speaker 1: Interested or something like they're going to circle up around you,
Speaker 1: Like if you're good enough, they're going to be like
Speaker 1: come on guys, because I can't. I stop drinking like
Speaker 1: when I was twenty seven, so I can't really dance
Speaker 1: like I think drinking is the kid. It helps me, right,
Speaker 1: if you're just a little drunk, then you don't give
Speaker 1: a shit and you kind of that self consciousness is gone.
Speaker 1: But I want some my friend's wedding like a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, and there was someone that I knew
Speaker 1: that tried to call me onto the dance floor like
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, come on, come on like that,
Speaker 1: and I was so furious because it was so obvious
Speaker 1: that's like you are. It was like a half step
Speaker 1: before like a proposal at a hockey game that goes
Speaker 1: up on the screen or whatever where it's just like
Speaker 1: everyone knows this person wants you to come and dance
Speaker 1: with them. So your only option, like a big fucking idiots,
Speaker 1: to stand up and be like you know, like it was.
Speaker 1: I was just staring at him like I'm going to
Speaker 1: kill you. I don't and it's someone else's weddings, so
Speaker 1: you can't be like a wet blanket and like but
Speaker 1: it's like but I'm stone cold, sober, like everyone on
Speaker 1: the dance floor is at least four drinks in and
Speaker 1: I have to get out there and so furious worses.
Speaker 4: You have to put like pace that smile on your
Speaker 4: face even though you want to kill them, and you're
Speaker 4: like she's into it and you just want to strangle him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no one in history ever been like, I'm so
Speaker 3: glad you pulled me out there. I don't know why
Speaker 3: I was apprehensive. That was the best time I've ever had.
Speaker 1: You're the one that went out there. You had to
Speaker 1: like stand by your own dumb choice. That's not my
Speaker 1: don't bring me into it. I can't fix this for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, other than dancing, do you have any skills that
Speaker 3: no one knows about outside of comedy?
Speaker 4: I don't know. That's the trouble is, like sometimes you
Speaker 4: talk to people and they're like, yeah, I kayak, I
Speaker 4: rock climb. I do all this stuff with my downtime,
Speaker 4: and I just like love stand up and like sketches,
Speaker 4: and I just love comedy so like I even do
Speaker 4: it with my free time. I'm not like writing comedy.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to climb a rock after this.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I don't have a bunch of like super
Speaker 4: specific outside interests, like I'll play basketball every now and then,
Speaker 4: I guess, or I guess music and dance is the
Speaker 4: most specific thing. But outside of that.
Speaker 3: It's almost a distraction and I have to snap out
Speaker 3: of it soon because I've spent all this time, the
Speaker 3: last year and a half just skateboarding and golfing, and
Speaker 3: now I'm like, oh, yeah, I have to do comedy.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of cool enjoying the these other things it is,
Speaker 3: but I feel like it's better as a comic to
Speaker 3: be one hundred percent focused on it.
Speaker 4: Like uh yes and no, though, because sometimes, I mean
Speaker 4: I've noticed this even with myself. Sometimes you could be
Speaker 4: you could drill down so much into comedy and you
Speaker 4: need to like live regular life to be able to
Speaker 4: have to do the job right, because if you're just
Speaker 4: like comedy comedy, comedy, you're not living enough life to
Speaker 4: extract from it. Like are all your jokes about hitting
Speaker 4: different mics?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: On the other hand, though, I don't have a single
Speaker 3: anecdote about golf or skateboarding in my act, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 4: Well, it could be sort of like a mind defragging though,
Speaker 4: so even though it's not super immediate, Yeah, it could
Speaker 4: be running in the background and give you perspective on
Speaker 4: stuff that you wouldn't have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I suppose it forcing me to just be around
Speaker 3: regular people and interact and remember how regular people think
Speaker 3: is the most valuable thing. I should start talking more
Speaker 3: to the people I golf skate with. It'll help for
Speaker 3: ideas that'll help you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm studying human behavior.
Speaker 4: That's cool. You can skate though, I'm so envious of
Speaker 4: because Instagram knows what you're into, like it knows that
Speaker 4: I'll look at skateboarding clips. I don't know a ton.
Speaker 4: I don't like you know, some people know every skater,
Speaker 4: they know every crew. I'm just like a cursory fan.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you don't pay attention for a while and you go, oh,
Speaker 4: humans are doing that now, And I've paid attention the
Speaker 4: whole time, and Monday it'll hit me like I can't
Speaker 4: believe what who is skateboarding now and what they're able
Speaker 4: to do?
Speaker 2: It just it amazes me. I like it a lot.
Speaker 2: I think about it all the time.
Speaker 1: But I also am a cursory fan who, like Chris
Speaker 1: showed me a clip of this guy that did this
Speaker 1: jump off of that it was like a Jiffy lube
Speaker 1: on sunset that like everyone, oh.
Speaker 2: That car wash. Yeah, they put a handrail up, no
Speaker 2: more jumping off.
Speaker 1: But it was like such an accomplishment where it's like,
Speaker 1: so that guy must have done that fifteen times and
Speaker 1: just bit it and like and he didn't get scared,
Speaker 1: he didn't give up. He didn't, you know, do it
Speaker 1: so badly he went to the hospital. He just kept
Speaker 1: doing it until he could actually and it was like
Speaker 1: a it was really high, like it seemed really dangerous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a roof and then a drop and then
Speaker 3: you're landing on this. I'm glad because I sent you
Speaker 3: the raw footage of him trying it over and over.
Speaker 3: I know now you didn't watch it because he did
Speaker 3: indeed break his leg and his foot's going in the yeah,
Speaker 3: and then he rehabilitated, healed and then did it like
Speaker 3: first try after that, Okay, a year later. I'm sorry
Speaker 3: I sent it to you and I didn't realize and
Speaker 3: I don't like seeing injuries. I don't ever want to
Speaker 3: see a foot going the wrong way. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: I can't believe I just sent that to Karen. It's
Speaker 3: pretty So don't ever open that video I sent you.
Speaker 1: You know, It's funny. I almost never open any video
Speaker 1: anyone sends me because I know if they care enough,
Speaker 1: they'll bring it up again. And most of the time
Speaker 1: I go, do I have three minutes to sit here
Speaker 1: and give this my full focus? Or will I? And
Speaker 1: the answer is no, And so then I'm just like,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that later.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if it's really important, you have to care enough,
Speaker 4: they'll follow up.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. It has to be like a double request.
Speaker 4: Basically, that's a good rule.
Speaker 1: Kind of a pain in the ass, but fahim, you
Speaker 1: have you worked through the pandemic. You had to go
Speaker 1: to work today, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it was interesting, Like I mean, before the pandemic,
Speaker 4: I was just sort of like stand up, just doing
Speaker 4: a lot of stand up and then an acting thing
Speaker 4: here and there, and stand up was a constant, and
Speaker 4: everything else was just kind of like piecemeal. And then
Speaker 4: stand up stopped because of COVID. There was nothing going
Speaker 4: on in LA and that was kind of strange for everybody,
Speaker 4: especially stand ups, where it's like part therapy, part going
Speaker 4: to the gym, just it's part of your routine. And
Speaker 4: then it's also a way to like have a livelihood, right,
Speaker 4: and then out of the Sky. I got this like
Speaker 4: writing job like the EPs for United States of Al
Speaker 4: on CBS. They were trying to staff up for They
Speaker 4: wanted Afghan writers because this it comes about this marine
Speaker 4: and his Afghan interpreter, and so they wanted to you know,
Speaker 4: represent the room honestly and stuff. So and they were
Speaker 4: familiar my stand up as well. So it's just random
Speaker 4: that during a pandemic, this like staff running job just
Speaker 4: presented itself. And I was doing that over zoom for
Speaker 4: like season one and then now we're back at Warner
Speaker 4: Brothers in the lot like you know, writing over there.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was just I just got kind of
Speaker 4: lucky that that fell in my lap during the pandemic.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you like it.
Speaker 1: It's a cool room.
Speaker 4: It's cool. Yeah, it's a different thing. Yeah, everyone's great.
Speaker 4: I mean most of any job is just sort of
Speaker 4: like who you work with, and people are lovely and
Speaker 4: they're great, Like you really looked out and now stand
Speaker 4: up is open, so I get to do both like
Speaker 4: all work by day and then do a set at
Speaker 4: the Comedy Store And.
Speaker 3: Have you been doing that like Laurie Kilmartin or something
Speaker 3: where I know that she works every day, and then
Speaker 3: I would see her at every show I did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she has kids or a kid. I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's crazy. Yeah, the fact that she does all that.
Speaker 2: I'm too lazy. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 4: You just kind of learn your threshold. It's a balancing act,
Speaker 4: you know. Obviously I'm not doing as many sets as
Speaker 4: before the pandemic and before the job, but also the
Speaker 4: pandemic kind of made me prioritize things. I think a
Speaker 4: lot of people, even outside of comedy, just sort of
Speaker 4: evaluated their life and were like, do I need to
Speaker 4: be doing these things? Are going this hard on? Like
Speaker 4: do I need to do three sets at night? Right?
Speaker 4: And I think it's just carryover from when you're a
Speaker 4: younger comic and you just said yes to every set,
Speaker 4: but nuts and bolts when you look at it, like
Speaker 4: what am I learning between set one in the night
Speaker 4: and set three? Like I could do one every night
Speaker 4: or like four a week not have that much change
Speaker 4: in growth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't think of a time where I had
Speaker 3: three sets in one night, So I already know you
Speaker 3: work harder. Maybe in New York where it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you could just walk down to this other Yeah, they
Speaker 3: talk like that there too.
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, you walk down to thirty eighth
Speaker 2: and the other UCB.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh they're out of business. I shouldn't have brought
Speaker 3: that up.
Speaker 4: But you also need enough time between sets to kind
Speaker 4: of like marinate on what happened, to have perspective a
Speaker 4: little bit, because if you're just rushing to get to
Speaker 4: every set, you're not fully digesting what happened in every
Speaker 4: I don't know, there's there's different schools of thought. The
Speaker 4: New York guys suppost be like you do eight of
Speaker 4: them in a day. You just grind yourself into a
Speaker 4: nub and that's how you get funny. And maybe in
Speaker 4: the first three years it's important to get up just
Speaker 4: like a ton, But once you know yourself, I don't
Speaker 4: know if you need to be doing like four sets
Speaker 4: a night.
Speaker 1: It seems like you save it for if you're prepping
Speaker 1: for something or there's some kind of like yeah, because
Speaker 1: if you're just doing a ten minute set and it's
Speaker 1: kind of the same.
Speaker 4: All the time, you know, yeah, what are you learning?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do that all the time. I think I
Speaker 2: just enjoy it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I gotta go do stand up because
Speaker 3: I know I'll be happy after that.
Speaker 4: It's like, I gotta go feel normal stand up. WI help,
Speaker 4: I'm doing that in a couple of days. I'll just
Speaker 4: wait till then and stay on the couch.
Speaker 3: Is your family happy that you have a writing job
Speaker 3: sometimes that legitimized as a common your career or oh yeah,
Speaker 3: they already support you being a stand.
Speaker 4: Up uh, like for my dad, Like my dad is
Speaker 4: kind of like the last holdout on like comedy being
Speaker 4: a legitimate career or a thing that you could tell
Speaker 4: other people and not be embarrassed by. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 4: just so funny that, like, you know, I've been doing
Speaker 4: stand up for a long time, and I've had some
Speaker 4: great milestones that like other parents would be very proud
Speaker 4: of and stuff. But it wasn't until I got a
Speaker 4: writing job that like my dad kind of finally was
Speaker 4: proud or could understand it. Yeah, like my dad can
Speaker 4: only understand day jobs. You can you can only understand
Speaker 4: going into work, sitting at a desk, getting coffee from
Speaker 4: the breakroom. If it doesn't if it doesn't fit into that,
Speaker 4: like what is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're just having fun with your friends and then
Speaker 1: you're just fucking around.
Speaker 4: Yeah, then I'm like guest on at Disneyland or something like.
Speaker 4: He doesn't he doesn't get it well.
Speaker 1: Also, if you work on like working on a lot too,
Speaker 1: I think is really uh exciting for family members and
Speaker 1: people that are like that's like you're not just justified,
Speaker 1: You're like, that's glamorous.
Speaker 4: That's like for normal people. For normal people, yeah, they'd
Speaker 4: be like, oh wow, the water towers there, they're filming movies.
Speaker 4: All these famous movies were shot there. But for my
Speaker 4: dad's just like, oh, you have a parking space and
Speaker 4: you have a building you go into for eight hours.
Speaker 4: Like all of the cool things he doesn't even care about.
Speaker 4: Is just sort of like, oh you you have health insurance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was always on my mind when I had
Speaker 3: a writing job. It's like going into a parking garage
Speaker 3: and feeling like I was.
Speaker 2: A legitimate adult all of a sudden. But I just
Speaker 2: wanted to do stand up more.
Speaker 4: I get that. I get that, like I.
Speaker 3: Just want to make sure you're still doing stand up
Speaker 3: because you make me laugh.
Speaker 4: Thanks man. Yeah, I never want to leave stand up.
Speaker 4: And it's kind of cool knowing the different animals now,
Speaker 4: just like stand up and writing. Writing is cool. It's
Speaker 4: a different type of beast. You kind of lend a
Speaker 4: piece of you to the story or whatever your perspective is.
Speaker 4: But it's a collaborative effort. So it's like a percentage
Speaker 4: of you is being added to this comedic thing, where
Speaker 4: a stand up is like one hundred percent you, and
Speaker 4: that's like super fulfillent. Yeah.
Speaker 3: What I like about your stand up is you, throughout
Speaker 3: without presenting it like and now I'm going to show
Speaker 3: you what that would look like. You kind of just
Speaker 3: act out things and do sound effects throughout entire stories.
Speaker 2: So I always forget that.
Speaker 3: I like when I see a comic do that, and
Speaker 3: maybe I used to do it more, but you do
Speaker 3: it throughout and it's not like a let's see what
Speaker 3: that might look like.
Speaker 4: Thanks man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're writing for someone else, do you ever,
Speaker 3: and this is like a writing question for both of you,
Speaker 3: do you ever in parentheses say at that point you
Speaker 3: would look down and laugh and start dancing, And then
Speaker 3: like how much do or do you let them interpret it?
Speaker 4: I mean some of it, like is the actor's choice.
Speaker 4: You know, they'll do it a certain way. But then
Speaker 4: if it's like a very physical particular beat. It's like
Speaker 4: in the stage direction and you could put that in there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: But when it comes to stand up, I like that
Speaker 4: you noticed that work because like some comics, it'll be
Speaker 4: very and now and it's very presentational of this physicality.
Speaker 4: But I mean it's always joke first for me, and
Speaker 4: then the physicality in the act out is just kind
Speaker 4: of like I see it in my mind's eye and
Speaker 4: I'm just sort of like it's an extension of the bit.
Speaker 4: I'm just seeing it to fruition, like I'm not even
Speaker 4: I don't even know I'm doing it or whatever. So
Speaker 4: I always like to have this organic quality to it
Speaker 4: instead of like, here's a guy skiing, like you could
Speaker 4: tell that the comic saw himself in the mirror.
Speaker 1: That is a good bit. Though your skiing bit is
Speaker 1: so good.
Speaker 4: That was my early stuff where I just said, here's
Speaker 4: the guy skiing.
Speaker 3: My favorite is your pigure new doesn't want to fly,
Speaker 3: that decides to walk downstairs.
Speaker 4: That's when of That was the real story in Kathound
Speaker 4: this pigeon. You have to see it to get it.
Speaker 3: I remember when a comic I rarely respect I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna name names, but went up after me, and she
Speaker 3: was like, well, I wish I had more act outs
Speaker 3: because I guess I was doing a lot of act
Speaker 3: out and it hurt me for like for so long
Speaker 3: that I kind of did stand up differently after that.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, maybe it's a bad thing that I'm
Speaker 3: no acting things out.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Was that also Lori Kilmark?
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: You couldn't even beat it out of me. I'll tell
Speaker 3: you when we're done recording.
Speaker 4: I think that's more of a testament to that comics
Speaker 4: insecurity than to like what you've got going on. You're
Speaker 4: just doing you you know. Yeah, yeah, there's nothing wrong
Speaker 4: with act outs unless it's the here's a guy skiing,
Speaker 4: then that's a different thing.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, Or I mean, we couldn't all draw
Speaker 3: the line at humping a stool. I think that historically
Speaker 3: I wanted to do a bit where I got humped
Speaker 3: by the stool, like I get fucked by the stool.
Speaker 4: And the bits called the stool's revenge.
Speaker 2: From all the years of comics fucking it.
Speaker 4: But you know, I've had this thought. Okay, so like
Speaker 4: I think in the club circuit, like fucking the stool
Speaker 4: is like no, universally is hack. But I would say,
Speaker 4: like the alt equivalent of stool fucking is like reading
Speaker 4: a letter you wrote, or like a Yelp review, Like
Speaker 4: when you pull something out and you're like, so I
Speaker 4: wrote and it's this long ass thing. That's that's the
Speaker 4: alt version of stool fucking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've done that before and not realized it used
Speaker 3: to bother me so much when someone was just reading
Speaker 3: a thing. You just get used to it. One day
Speaker 3: you're on stage like, oh my god, I'm reading something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm reading a letter or like a subsack thing.
Speaker 1: Who have I become.
Speaker 3: Reading a thing while humping a stool and worst of
Speaker 3: both worlds.
Speaker 4: But it is impressive and just hard cut to the
Speaker 4: earth and then exploding.
Speaker 3: Well, I thought maybe there would be a lull like that,
Speaker 3: so I did the liberty of looking up good questions
Speaker 3: to ask comedians.
Speaker 2: I don't ever do any preparations, so I thought, uh, where, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what'd you get? Well?
Speaker 3: A lot of them are interview questions from movies, and
Speaker 3: a lot of them are questions that you should never
Speaker 3: ask a comedian, and all and all, I'll start with
Speaker 3: those for him. Do you write your own routines? That's
Speaker 3: like the isn't it then?
Speaker 4: Like Norms podcast where he'd be like like where do
Speaker 4: you or how do you write your stuff? Or where
Speaker 4: do you come up with? Like that was just like
Speaker 4: an ongoing runner, like a joke. Yeah, yeah, like a
Speaker 4: joke question where do you? Where do you get your stuff? Yeah? Right,
Speaker 4: it's so funny. Like people ask that all the time,
Speaker 4: Like when civilians find out way do stand up? They go,
Speaker 4: do you write your own stuff? Or it's just such
Speaker 4: a foreign concept to them.
Speaker 3: I snap back at them with like an almost attitude
Speaker 3: like yes everyone should, No one doesn't.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, why am I so angry? Sorry?
Speaker 3: I mean, if someone's famous and they go to the
Speaker 3: same city three times a year, they sometimes hire and.
Speaker 4: Pay a right, that'd be funniest to be like, but
Speaker 4: I don't do that yet. I hire people to write
Speaker 4: my ash. I mean, how funny would it be to
Speaker 4: like be at our level and just say, like I
Speaker 4: hire writers. I find them off Craigslist. Like you're already
Speaker 4: like making no money and you're gonna farm out the writing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just easier. It's how I want to spend my money.
Speaker 1: It's easier.
Speaker 2: I would do it.
Speaker 4: Another pet peeve is when they go, oh, let me
Speaker 4: let me know when your next show is like, like,
Speaker 4: I've been doing stand up for three months and I'm
Speaker 4: just doing bringer shows where I have to bring my
Speaker 4: own audience members. Like and then here's here's how that
Speaker 4: plays out. You think I'll come to you, Okay, some
Speaker 4: acquaintance or some guy I meet at a house party
Speaker 4: or something. I'm gonna get his info and say, hey,
Speaker 4: I'm performing next week, do you want to come. It's
Speaker 4: it's like the adult version of watch me jump off
Speaker 4: this diving board and then what's gonna happen? And then
Speaker 4: I'm gonna call him and be like, hey, it's Fahim
Speaker 4: and he's like who And I'm like him from the party,
Speaker 4: remember the stand up comedian. He's like, oh, yeah, well
Speaker 4: you said, like you know, tell tell you when I
Speaker 4: have a show. I have a show Tuesday. Do you
Speaker 4: want to come? And he's like, ah, I'm busy, Okay,
Speaker 4: well what about Wednesday? I have a show. And then yeah,
Speaker 4: just sort of like working out.
Speaker 1: He asked me to do this.
Speaker 4: If you care enough, you'll find me. You'll you'll google
Speaker 4: me and come to a show.
Speaker 2: Yeah that is so funny.
Speaker 3: Everyone says that let me know when you have a show,
Speaker 3: and I always just lie and say I sure will,
Speaker 3: I sure will let you know. Isn't it crazy posting
Speaker 3: about it on my social media?
Speaker 4: And then I'll it's just a societal lie that both
Speaker 4: of you have to tell each other like nothing has happened.
Speaker 4: He doesn't mean let me know when you have a show,
Speaker 4: and you don't mean when you say, I'll definitely let
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: And one of my rules, or I wish I could
Speaker 3: 'tenforce it is strangers only.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 4: I don't want anyone I know to be dude. I
Speaker 4: love that you have that rule. I mean I preach that,
Speaker 4: especially in the early years. I never understood the people
Speaker 4: who started doing stand up for like three months and
Speaker 4: they invite every person they've ever known in their life
Speaker 4: just to make every relationship awkward from that point forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, and they're all wooing.
Speaker 3: You know, someone filled a room when they're all just
Speaker 3: going whoo after a joke instead of laughing.
Speaker 4: Give yourself the opportunity to bomb.
Speaker 1: I had met a guy one time at a wedding
Speaker 1: and someone had told him I did stand up and
Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, I like to go to comedy clubs
Speaker 1: in Heckel.
Speaker 4: Oh oh my god, there's someone actually to be proud
Speaker 4: of that.
Speaker 1: Oh my. He was really proud and a little confrontational
Speaker 1: or was just like, all right, well, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to fight you on behalf of all stand up comics.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: I feel like that has gone away a little bit.
Speaker 3: Of course, people get drunk and they they don't know
Speaker 3: that they're yelling things because they're used to talking to
Speaker 3: their TVs or something. But there used to be a thing,
Speaker 3: like ten years ago where people thought, if I'm if
Speaker 3: I show myself, first of all, I'm helping the show.
Speaker 3: And also maybe they think that they're gonna get discovered
Speaker 3: in some weird way and go to some Heckler fine.
Speaker 4: Where there's a Heckler agent like I like your stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 4: can you do this at every show?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Are yeah? Are you ever?
Speaker 3: Here's that's the one of these, really the worst questions
Speaker 3: stask a comedian.
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 3: Are you ever worried a Heckler will be better than
Speaker 3: you and end up taking your spot on the stage
Speaker 3: mid show and catching your check?
Speaker 4: Is that's one of the hysterical Imagine how little confidence
Speaker 4: you have in yourself as a performer. If you're performing
Speaker 4: and the whole time you're like, I hope a heckler
Speaker 4: isn't pipe up and is way better than me.
Speaker 2: I hope they don't have a microphone and smarter idea.
Speaker 4: And I hope they don't pull my pants down when
Speaker 4: I'm on stage and point out my tiny peepy that's
Speaker 4: really specific.
Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't.
Speaker 1: I'll have a lot of fears. I one time on
Speaker 1: stage was kind of eating it at the improv and
Speaker 1: which is how I like to do it. And there's
Speaker 1: a guy this was like in the mid nineties, I think,
Speaker 1: And there's a guy to my left and his beeper
Speaker 1: went off, and so I turned and was like, oh,
Speaker 1: the doctor's in the house. And I tried to like
Speaker 1: rip him a new one for having his beaper go off,
Speaker 1: and he just was staring at me. And then when
Speaker 1: I like finished the last pseudo insult that I tried
Speaker 1: to hurl it at me, he just held up his wrist.
Speaker 1: He was like, it was my watch, and it was
Speaker 1: just his watch like beeped ten o'clock, you know, like, dude, dude.
Speaker 1: It was the smallest thing that I had totally overreacted
Speaker 1: to him. I just stood there staring at him. He
Speaker 1: just got me in the cleanest, most understanding way where
Speaker 1: he was like almost in a pitying voice, was just like, hey,
Speaker 1: like take it easy, but fucking awful.
Speaker 3: Why you have to have such a loud ass watch? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: loud look at me, Look at my watch.
Speaker 2: I'm a doctor. I have a loud watch because of
Speaker 2: my doctor job.
Speaker 1: That's when I started to realize It's like it is
Speaker 1: about the ease with which you approach the things that
Speaker 1: happened to you on stage. It's like, yes, you can
Speaker 1: think of good stuff to say back, but then if
Speaker 1: you're really upset as you say it, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: win it, doesn't you know.
Speaker 4: It's more about the first thought and just the conversationality
Speaker 4: of it rather than what is the best line in
Speaker 4: the world that I can deliver at this, like you
Speaker 4: expect like an explosion of laughter based on this, like
Speaker 4: curveball you got instead of just reacting like a human
Speaker 4: in the moment. But some comics, like the slightest thing
Speaker 4: will will like be not you know, like a girl
Speaker 4: will like laugh too loud or say something and they
Speaker 4: go nuclear and you go no, no, you've lost in goodwill.
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't go to comedy clubs because
Speaker 3: that's their biggest fear is someone going nuclear on them
Speaker 3: for sneezing or having a bad laugh. It's like that
Speaker 3: has to be that stigma has to go away. All
Speaker 3: laughs are good. Oh don't yell stuff, But no one's
Speaker 3: gonna attack you out of because you sit up front.
Speaker 3: We don't want to sit up front the comedie and
Speaker 3: I'll pick a fight with us and hurt our feelings.
Speaker 4: I make a point to rip people in the back
Speaker 4: row just to let them know, like no one is safe.
Speaker 4: I have I have night vision, and I have the
Speaker 4: most amazing I have the night vision, and then I
Speaker 4: have binoculars and I just roast everyone in the darkness.
Speaker 4: I go, you guys can't see what I'm looking at,
Speaker 4: but I'm spawn on with these roasts.
Speaker 2: Hey, you and the sound booth right behind you.
Speaker 1: That's actually a really good bit because the people that
Speaker 1: no one can see there were just like trust me
Speaker 1: when I tell you, I'm ripping the ship out of
Speaker 1: the whole air.
Speaker 4: That's a funny character. It's like back row roaster. The
Speaker 4: comedian comes on and just roasts everyone that nobody can
Speaker 4: see and the crowd has to actually take his word
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 3: If you want to take a minute to write that down,
Speaker 3: I would love it to come see you do that,
Speaker 3: if you let me know when money or shows it.
Speaker 4: Like, you know, a lot of comics do the front
Speaker 4: row roasting. I'm one of the rare breeds who does
Speaker 4: back row, back of the room roasting. So put on
Speaker 4: your hats, folks. Look at this guy over here in
Speaker 4: the corner.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of next level where I'll be in the
Speaker 3: lab at the improv and I'm roasting people in the
Speaker 3: audience in the main room. Yes, yeah, there there's well,
Speaker 3: I have an I f B. And there's a guy
Speaker 3: in the hallway that speaks to me. He's dressed like
Speaker 3: a door guy.
Speaker 2: There's a grib. There's like a guy timing next to this.
Speaker 4: There's like fifteen people in bold FBI guys in a
Speaker 4: van and like it's surveiled in the main room, and
Speaker 4: there's an ear piece just giving you info to what
Speaker 4: the roast. Guy in the bed room.
Speaker 1: He's crying. He's crying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, he's looking around confused. He he doesn't
Speaker 4: know why. There's a camera on him.
Speaker 3: Is there a moment that was your worst moment on
Speaker 3: stage that always stands out or is there just a
Speaker 3: blur of many little moments.
Speaker 4: No, the big one for me, Like every comic has
Speaker 4: horror stories, but mine is like Mount Rushmore horror moment.
Speaker 4: It was I think it was the first couple of
Speaker 4: months doing stand up. I was seventeen or eighteen, and
Speaker 4: I did the Paramount Theater and see it was like
Speaker 4: the Apollo Theater came by every city. Yeah, and like
Speaker 4: I got on it and then I just got booed
Speaker 4: by like four thousand people. And that was like my
Speaker 4: first year of doing stand up. Just it like no
Speaker 4: human ever experiences that in life, you know, except in
Speaker 4: their nightmares.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: And so it's such a surreal experience to get booed
Speaker 4: by like four thousand or like forty five hundred people.
Speaker 4: And then but then I kept doing stand up afterward,
Speaker 4: Like I'm kind of glad that it happened that early
Speaker 4: in my career because your bulletproof after that, like the
Speaker 4: worst thing anyone could ever imagine happened it Like, wasn't
Speaker 4: that bad? Yeah, Like, oh okay, I really love this
Speaker 4: and I'm driven to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did a show and uh, I was just
Speaker 3: in England working an acting job.
Speaker 2: But I'm not bragging. That's why I was. I wasn't
Speaker 2: there to do comedy. I just did a show that
Speaker 2: was a straight up press.
Speaker 3: I I it was more to let you know I
Speaker 3: don't get work in the UK as a stand up
Speaker 3: comedian and I would like to, but I I called
Speaker 3: Matt Kershon and he got me a spot a place
Speaker 3: called the Frog and Bucket and they had a show
Speaker 3: where there was some three or four booked comics, but
Speaker 3: in between them all it was like an open mic,
Speaker 3: and they handed three signs to the audience, a little
Speaker 3: frog on a stick, and people gradually raise these signs
Speaker 3: like the opposite of pushing the button on American Idol.
Speaker 3: And once you see the third frog, you have to
Speaker 3: get off stage. And I was so worried that they
Speaker 3: because they're still holding them during my book fifteen minute set.
Speaker 2: But they were so polite about it.
Speaker 3: Even when all three frogs went up, the comic would
Speaker 3: be like, oh sorry, I'll better next time. Sorry, And
Speaker 3: every no one got bent out of shape, like if
Speaker 3: you did that here, people will be.
Speaker 4: Like, fuck you, what do you know, well, that's the
Speaker 4: whole reason they have the Sandman with the Apollo, because
Speaker 4: no one would be like, all right, see you later.
Speaker 4: They need a guy to literally like sweep you off
Speaker 4: the stage.
Speaker 3: Swear to god, I wasn't going to ask about that,
Speaker 3: but I didn't know if I conjured it from some
Speaker 3: in Living Color spoo for something, if does a guy
Speaker 3: come with a broom or did I.
Speaker 4: That's the whole that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2: That's all okay. I thought for a minute that was
Speaker 2: from a parody of that.
Speaker 4: I could see that.
Speaker 1: So for him, that happened to you when you did
Speaker 1: it in Seattle, that happened the Sandman came out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I was like the British people because like
Speaker 4: I know how the Apollo works. I didn't wait to
Speaker 4: get swept. Like I heard the siren go off and
Speaker 4: I was like, goodbye, goodbye.
Speaker 2: I love that he's.
Speaker 3: Called the Sandman, the Bringer of Nightmares from Metallica.
Speaker 1: Have you seen the video of Lauren Hill getting booed
Speaker 1: off the stage at the Apollo?
Speaker 2: Oh god no, yeah.
Speaker 1: She she walks out and starts singing, and it's fucking
Speaker 1: Lauren Hill. But she was I think she was like sixteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's pretty young, and it only lasted like fifteen seconds
Speaker 1: and she got booed off and you like as you're
Speaker 1: watching it, because she does have a style, you know,
Speaker 1: her own kind of singing style. But it was it's
Speaker 1: just the funniest thing. I remember seeing that, having this
Speaker 1: weird thing snap inside me, where I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's not like it can happen to anybody. It can
Speaker 1: happen to the most talented people ever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, And I think that carries over into
Speaker 4: other facets of entertainment too. I think this was like
Speaker 4: a big revelation for me because like, when you are
Speaker 4: in entertainment, you like it's hard to get into it,
Speaker 4: and then when you're in it, you feel like it's
Speaker 4: a final. Every time any opportunity you get, you feel
Speaker 4: like it's a final. And then you come to realize
Speaker 4: that it's just the world that you live in and
Speaker 4: sometimes you do well, sometimes you don't, and the times
Speaker 4: you don't isn't a reflection on your entire being. It's
Speaker 4: just maybe you weren't right for that job. Like if
Speaker 4: you get fired off of a job, or if you
Speaker 4: excel at this other thing, it's just sort of like
Speaker 4: it's more about the overall. I don't know your percentage
Speaker 4: of the overall rather than one particular, Like you can't
Speaker 4: bat a thousand and that's okay.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it was good for you to get boot
Speaker 1: off the stage, Yes, eighteen, that was good.
Speaker 4: I would have been a monster if everyone is like
Speaker 4: hoisting on their shoulders, I would just like I would
Speaker 4: have sunglasses during this whole interview, and I'd be like,
Speaker 4: what else? What else you got?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Just look at my two phones, like, all right, I
Speaker 4: gotta I gotta get out here.
Speaker 1: Cool?
Speaker 3: Is that it?
Speaker 1: Do you just need anything else? All right?
Speaker 4: Cool?
Speaker 3: I like that sunglasses are the that's a guy that
Speaker 3: has it all together and doesn't.
Speaker 2: Give a ship.
Speaker 4: I bought these sunglasses during quarantine for a sketch that
Speaker 4: I ended up not doing. But it was those like
Speaker 4: flip up sunglasses, so so it's like regular you know,
Speaker 4: then it's yeah, yeah, exactly. And it's just sometimes I
Speaker 4: look at myself in the mirror and I have those
Speaker 4: glasses and it's just amazing how those flip up shades
Speaker 4: change your entire demeanor. Like if I have them up,
Speaker 4: I look like a very personal guy. You could talk
Speaker 4: to me, but then I put them down. You're like,
Speaker 4: stay away from this guy. What's hisn Where was your
Speaker 4: I haven't seen you.
Speaker 3: You probably haven't done it for years, but your character
Speaker 3: that had you weaved in I think professionally or had
Speaker 3: it made.
Speaker 2: Was it a mullt or just a rat tail mullet?
Speaker 4: No, it was like a mullet. It was like it
Speaker 4: was two rows. Like I became very aware of women's
Speaker 4: hair from wearing this. Like I didn't know what a
Speaker 4: weave was or extensions or how they worked. But yeah,
Speaker 4: they're like clipping. They're like two rows and it just
Speaker 4: looks like a legit, straight up mullet. And I would
Speaker 4: go up at the comedy store on Saturdays, like around
Speaker 4: midnight and just in a wife beater and like just
Speaker 4: acid washed jeans, and I would dance for like a
Speaker 4: minute of top because they'd play this dance music. They'd
Speaker 4: be like, please welcome Lance against Napolis and then just
Speaker 4: like dance and then just take questions from the audience
Speaker 4: and it was all improv and it was just so fun.
Speaker 3: I think during that time I was I was I
Speaker 3: should hang out there, but at the time I was
Speaker 3: trying to hang out there more. And I saw you
Speaker 3: do it a few times, and it was that was
Speaker 3: the first time I saw you, and so I just
Speaker 3: thought that's who you were, and so did the whole audience.
Speaker 2: So it's a full commitment.
Speaker 4: Well that's the beauty of it. Like honestly, like seventy
Speaker 4: percent of the crowd thinks that it's a real guy. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and and like thirty percent are in on it. And
Speaker 4: and it's this beautiful because it's great to see faces
Speaker 4: in the crowd and they're trying to figure out, like
Speaker 4: is this a joke or is this for real?
Speaker 1: What's Lance's last name?
Speaker 3: Can't stop this, can't stop, can't stop this. It don't
Speaker 3: matter how hard you try.
Speaker 4: He can't stop that.
Speaker 3: You gotta be careful with that, though, because we all
Speaker 3: saw what happened to Larry the cable guys.
Speaker 4: I know that if I did that continuously, it would
Speaker 4: devour for himn or. So I consciously refuse to give
Speaker 4: the audience what they want every week. You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be folklore or but I don't know.
Speaker 3: We'll ask him when we have him on Monday, Karen.
Speaker 4: But I heard that I like it being a treat
Speaker 4: that I want to pull out of the treasure chest
Speaker 4: instead of trying a slave to Lance Can't Stop It.
Speaker 3: Yes, I heard that people would call uh I forget.
Speaker 4: His name, his real name, but oh Dan Whitney.
Speaker 3: They would say, hey, can you Everyone seemed to like
Speaker 3: that cable guy character you did for ten minutes because
Speaker 3: he used to leave and come back like hey, I'm.
Speaker 2: A redneck me uh and uh yeah.
Speaker 3: That that to me was like a fear of mine,
Speaker 3: like such a weird thing to be scared of as
Speaker 3: a comic.
Speaker 2: When you're starting like don't don't go too deep.
Speaker 3: Undercover, yeah, or then you end up being a gang.
Speaker 4: It's like an inception, like you can go too deep,
Speaker 4: you never come back.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, this wasn't a character after all, I
Speaker 1: was playing a character when I wasn't Lance Can't Stop Less.
Speaker 1: I have a question though for the Q and A. Sure,
Speaker 1: so you dance, then you take questions, so you don't
Speaker 1: have an act.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, it's just Q and A the whole time.
Speaker 4: So it's just sort of like answering the questions from
Speaker 4: the crowd and then like, all right, who else has
Speaker 4: questions as your Yeah? For fifteen minutes, and it was
Speaker 4: beautiful because they would watch regular stand up, which is great.
Speaker 4: You know, people have great X, but you're still operating
Speaker 4: within the confines of stand up where it's like set
Speaker 4: up punch jokes. And then Lance is just real, like
Speaker 4: he's just he's just there dancing, looking at you, talking
Speaker 4: to you, like getting questions from the audience who are
Speaker 4: trying to paint him into a corner with their questions,
Speaker 4: but he weasels out of it, and then he'll start
Speaker 4: dancing again for no reason, like turn the music on.
Speaker 4: It's just like fun chaos.
Speaker 2: Do you do that anymore? Because I want to start
Speaker 2: doing it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to see I need to do it
Speaker 4: like I brought because I didn't do him for like
Speaker 4: two years, and then I before the pandemic, literally like
Speaker 4: the week before the Comedy Store closed, I brought him
Speaker 4: back out and I did a set at the Comedy
Speaker 4: Store and then the pandemic hit and I haven't done
Speaker 4: it since. I think I will eventually bring him out.
Speaker 4: But that set is on YouTube. A couple of Lance
Speaker 4: sets are on YouTube, so if you search for Lance Canstopolis,
Speaker 4: you can see kind of a little bit what he does.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so great.
Speaker 1: Did you do any zoom comedy shows in quarantine.
Speaker 4: I was against it for a while, but then part
Speaker 4: of me was like, let me just see what it
Speaker 4: is before I kind of swear to never do it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so I did one, and I'm like, Okay, I don't
Speaker 4: love it, but I did it. I'm glad that I
Speaker 4: did it. But then some opportunities came up through the
Speaker 4: pandemic where people were putting on zoom comedy shows for
Speaker 4: like decent money, and I was like, yeah, I'll be
Speaker 4: on a webcam for fifteen minutes for this amount of money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it almost feels bad. I did a couple of those.
Speaker 3: Two I'm like, oh, you don't have to give me
Speaker 3: five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: I was in my bedroom. Yeah, did it.
Speaker 1: Really pay that well? Oh?
Speaker 2: Or two?
Speaker 3: Now, that was just another one of my little humble brags.
Speaker 3: I like to fit him in there. I was in
Speaker 3: the UK. You know, it was only five grand. But anyway,
Speaker 3: just kidding, I didn't. I had a different experience I
Speaker 3: think than a lot of people where I just I'm like,
Speaker 3: was in a panic right away, and a weekend of
Speaker 3: the pandemic, I was just exercising doing pushups. I'm not
Speaker 3: going to drink and I'm gonna do all these zoom shows.
Speaker 3: I just did it every night, all these awkward to silence,
Speaker 3: and then I learned over time that I was becoming
Speaker 3: an unhappy individual.
Speaker 2: So everyone learns different ever experienced that differently?
Speaker 1: So you decided you didn't like them at the end,
Speaker 1: like you did them and then you were like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm against them?
Speaker 4: Well I did one or two, and I go, okay,
Speaker 4: it's okay, but I don't enjoyed enough to keep on
Speaker 4: doing it for like free. But then they'll throw a
Speaker 4: number at you and you go, yeah, I don't hate
Speaker 4: it that much for this money. Yeah, then it was
Speaker 4: just like a financial thing whenever I'd get presented. But
Speaker 4: like on an artistic level, I don't love zoom shows.
Speaker 2: Yeah they're rough, Yeah they are. And they started getting better.
Speaker 3: I mean they were just about to figure it out
Speaker 3: as far as like letting in the designated laughers, and
Speaker 3: the timing got better, and there were nights where I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, that felt like stand up again.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 3: It just made me hungry for doing stand up again.
Speaker 3: But that's already worn off. I'm already back to square one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, remember that. Do you do any driving shows
Speaker 4: during the pandemic?
Speaker 2: I loved it. That was the other thing.
Speaker 3: I was so scared about honking cars, and I immediately
Speaker 3: loved it in some ways more than an audience because
Speaker 3: there was flashing lights. You could see exactly what areas
Speaker 3: of the parking lot. I'm just talking about the one
Speaker 3: at their IRV on improv. And I thought, just because
Speaker 3: of the way I hate horns, now there might as
Speaker 3: well be motorcycles revving every time you tell Joe horns
Speaker 3: are a bad thing. And I immediately was like, oh,
Speaker 3: now I like horns.
Speaker 4: Someone when you cut someone off, they honk at you.
Speaker 4: You go, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: I'll be here all week.
Speaker 4: I'm here all week.
Speaker 2: I'm at a red light for a whole week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, four or five all week.
Speaker 2: Are you currently then riding on the uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I say so. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think we go to late March and then we
Speaker 2: wrapped the season and that's on CBS CBS.
Speaker 4: That is correct.
Speaker 1: Did they buy you lunch?
Speaker 4: WHOA? I love that? You know this? Yeah? That's that's
Speaker 4: the other cool thing about like the right job is
Speaker 4: that lunch is provided and the breakroom situation, like all
Speaker 4: the snacks gum. He didn't think I would have free gum.
Speaker 4: I thought I'd have to be a baseball.
Speaker 1: Player, gum as far as I can see.
Speaker 4: As far Dente and Ice tried it. What do you want?
Speaker 4: They got it?
Speaker 1: Oh my, well there.
Speaker 2: I had to buy a meal plan at Fox.
Speaker 4: It's like you're going to elementary school. Yeah, a meal
Speaker 4: plan like a hot lunch.
Speaker 3: It was my own money, and I'd just buy it
Speaker 3: ahead of time. You get at somewhat of a discount
Speaker 3: depending on the popularity of your show.
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, that's right.
Speaker 3: Oh, we're at a You get a ten percent discount
Speaker 3: with this show. Don't You can't sit by those people.
Speaker 3: They're on the real Fox. You're just on Fuel TV.
Speaker 4: Oh god.
Speaker 1: I did boss at one writing job, who I adored
Speaker 1: Owen Eleson. He's hilarious and he was upset with lunch,
Speaker 1: and so he would start the discussion about what we
Speaker 1: were going to order at like ten thirty, like he
Speaker 1: couldn't wait, and we would order all kinds of crazy shit.
Speaker 1: And there was one day where we were all sitting
Speaker 1: around eating ramen out of these bigs like styrofoam bowls,
Speaker 1: and it was just like throwing soup at your face,
Speaker 1: like it was impossible to not eat sloppy and gross,
Speaker 1: where it's just like this is insane, like this is
Speaker 1: this is like every dream I've ever had come true,
Speaker 1: or like I get to be in a room with
Speaker 1: really great people. But then there's also this kind of
Speaker 1: food element of like do we all have to agree
Speaker 1: together what we want today? It just that part of it. Really,
Speaker 1: I love the camaraderie of it.
Speaker 3: How about wings with a communal bucket of buffalo sauce.
Speaker 4: Well, it's always nice when someone suggests like a table
Speaker 4: food item, like all right, you want to do some
Speaker 4: table caeso and like no one's going to turn that down,
Speaker 4: or like yeah, all right, you guys do calamari, calamari
Speaker 4: for the table.
Speaker 1: Fancy some kind of fancy sushi that everyone said, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta do it, we gotta do.
Speaker 4: You feel less bad about the extravagance when you say
Speaker 4: it's for the table, Uh the dream?
Speaker 2: Yeah, one day again, one day I'll eat communally.
Speaker 1: You will.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get there fingers crossed for him?
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to plug? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Away?
Speaker 4: My podcast for he Man were dance hour, that's mine.
Speaker 4: That's kind of where the space is right here. And
Speaker 4: then I guess the special that you saw that it
Speaker 4: was on sisow back in the day, and then Comedy
Speaker 4: Central got it, so it's on their YouTube. Now. That's great,
Speaker 4: So that one's called there's no business like show business.
Speaker 4: I'm starting to put more clips on my just like
Speaker 4: you know, current stand up clips on my YouTube, which
Speaker 4: is just YouTube dot com slash himan or and then
Speaker 4: you know Forhima or for Instagram and Twitter and all that.
Speaker 4: I think that's about it.
Speaker 2: And we will see.
Speaker 3: I can't promote it enough his self audition for the
Speaker 3: and then of course is.
Speaker 2: It Dino Can't stopul Us. Now that's someone's real name,
Speaker 2: that's Lance Can't stopul Us.
Speaker 4: There's a lot. I think there's a lot of I
Speaker 4: always try to put like stand up clips or sketches
Speaker 4: and stuff. So that's like a good entry point if
Speaker 4: you are any bit curious about me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait to see you again. You're you know,
Speaker 3: you get tired of watching a lot of comics. And
Speaker 3: when I'm at the store, I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 3: a lot of these people. It's not my scene. I
Speaker 3: was always relieved when you were there.
Speaker 4: So uh, that's a nice measure. Funds come by, man,
Speaker 4: I love you too, like it's always nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will. I'm gonna, I keep saying I will.
Speaker 3: I just gotta have a private conversation with you about
Speaker 3: parking and then I'll be there with bells on.
Speaker 4: Karen, you got to come too, come to the comedy store, will.
Speaker 1: Hang out absolutely if you do. Lance can't stop us.
Speaker 1: Be in the front row, and I will have seven questions.
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 1: I love that idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll save all these questions that I was I
Speaker 3: really did hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so funny.
Speaker 1: How do you think of these bits? I mean he
Speaker 1: hasn't done any bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like, what are bits? I have no idea
Speaker 4: what that is.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna ask dance related questions. I can't mean.
Speaker 4: Lance would love nothing more than that.
Speaker 2: Thanks for being on today, buddy, of course.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you've been listening to Do You Need a Ride?
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