1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the cycle. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: I am Ryan Warmley, joined today as always, but for 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: the last time in this. 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Season by Mike Mayer. 5 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: And of course it's not because he will be gone, 6 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: but it's because I will be gone. 7 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: This is the beginning of August. 8 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 2: I quite simply have too much going on, and too 9 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: many responsibilities on the football side too. I could continue 10 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: to host, but I wouldn't be doing a good job 11 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: of it, and I don't want to, you know, be 12 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 2: sitting here giving kind of half hearted advice, barely researched advice. 13 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: I want to make sure that the people on the 14 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: show are really able to help folks when they, you know, 15 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: are trying to get the most actionable information and kind 16 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: of clinch those fantasy titles. 17 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: So I'll be stepping away through the end of the season. 18 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Do not worry. 19 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: I will be back, you know later in you know, 20 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: the off season, and then obviously next year you maybe 21 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 2: make an appearance here or there, mayor will still be 22 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: keeping the show going. We will not have a show 23 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: next week, that is due to scheduling. We will be 24 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: at the Fantasy Football Expo. So no show next week. 25 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: That has not mean the show is done. Please stay subscribed. 26 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: We will be back the week after that. It'll be 27 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: may and a lot of Kelly Kirby, maybe some other 28 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: folks mixed in there as well, so we'll still be 29 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: with you through the end of the baseball season. But 30 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: I did want to get that housekeeping out of the 31 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: way at the top, Mayor, how excited are you to 32 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: have the show continue without me? 33 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: Very excited, not as excited as I am to hear 34 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: all the feedback of all of the listeners who are 35 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 3: just going to be outraged that you just implied that 36 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: fantasy baseball is not important, that fantasy football is more important. 37 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: You inferred that. I did not imply it. 38 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 4: I heard it. 39 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: I heard it loud and clear, and our listeners will too, 40 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: and I look forward to that. 41 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: I'm not the one who said my schedule, and my 42 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: schedule determines that I had to put my time and 43 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: energy elsewhere, So don't yell at me. 44 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: Yell at And then you also also tried to drag 45 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: me under the bus, because you already threw yourself under 46 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: the bus. And then you said, oh, like Mayor is 47 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: also going to be at the Fantasy Football expot next week, 48 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: like he also thinks fantasy football is more important. 49 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: Wrong, I will. 50 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,919 Speaker 3: Still be here doing fantasy baseball talk. I just happened 51 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: to happen. You know, I have to be away next week, 52 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: and a few other people also will not be around, 53 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: So that's why we just can't. 54 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: I would like to point out that you could have 55 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: just taped it early next week. I mean, this is 56 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: no longer on me, this is now on you. You 57 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: could have just taped early next week and still had 58 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: to show out there, and you chose to instead prep 59 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: your mental space for the fantasy football expones said, so, well, 60 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: first week stands clear? 61 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 4: How dare you? 62 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: I actually can't tape it early next week because I 63 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: am flying up early to visit my ailing grandmother. And 64 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: now you just really come You're really starting off the 65 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: show here, Come on, you throw me under. 66 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: The bus like that? All right? 67 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: Well, clearly this has gone off the rails, So I 68 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: will move on from this preamble. As I remind everybody 69 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: every week, if you like this content, the best freeway 70 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: to show your support and encourage more content like this 71 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: is to leave a positive review at fantasypros dot com 72 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: slash MLB review. Yes, like I said, no episode next week. 73 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: No more episodes for me this season, but the show 74 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: will go on, so make sure you stick around through 75 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: those fantasy championships. We're gonna go through a bit quicker today. 76 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: I've got some news items here for rounding the bases 77 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: at the top. We're not gonna really deep dive on them. 78 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: The main part of the show is actually just gonna 79 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: be a trade deadline reaction round up. 80 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: So we're gonna run through some news items. 81 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: Then we're gonna run through, you know, a dozen or 82 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: so trades, and you know, maybe not necessarily deep dive 83 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: on all of them, but kind of just give our 84 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 2: fantasy reaction, our our you know, real life baseball reaction 85 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 2: to how the trade line went down. 86 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: It was an interesting deadline. 87 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: There was a lot of moves, but maybe not a 88 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: lot of like kind of that big game changer, you know, 89 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: like the trade for Justin Verlander type deals that we've 90 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: seen in years past. But you know, just as interesting 91 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: as the guys who were traded were the guys who 92 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: weren't traded. So we'll hit on all of that as 93 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: we get into the bulk of the show, but let's 94 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: start with rounding the bases, as always, right at the top, 95 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: and we actually talked about this on a recent show 96 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: as well, but now that there's a fit update, I 97 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: wanted to hit on it again. Mike Trout out for 98 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: the season Miniscus Taire. The comp was being made on 99 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: Twitter yesterday and it was a fair one of this 100 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: is Ken Griffy Junior's career of an unbelievable first decade 101 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: and then injuries kind of in the on the back nine, 102 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 2: really robbing us of what could have been special. Now, 103 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: Ken Griffy Junior's career was still quite special. He's one 104 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: of the greatest players in history and and Mike Trout 105 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: isn't in that same distinction. 106 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: But it it's frustrating. It's it's sad more than anything else. 107 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: We've talked about this before, Like what a bummer that 108 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: Mike Trout just his body is betraying him from being 109 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: one of the five greatest players who's ever stepped on 110 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: a baseball field. I mean it really like that sounds hyperbolic, 111 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: but that is essentially what he was pacing towards. So 112 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: really sad that it's another season and he was good 113 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: this year. I mean, he started off the season great. 114 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: We talked back in April about kind of being surprised 115 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: at where he was going in drafts, and I'm curious 116 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: a like, you know, there's really probably not much to 117 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: add in terms of like us being bummed that Trout's heard. 118 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you feel the same way, but I'm 119 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: really curious if they feel, like what you're going to 120 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: do with him next year in drafts? 121 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's a great question because you're already hearing, 122 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: you know, the Angels are already coming out and saying like, 123 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: we expect him to get seventy home runs next year, 124 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: and everyone else is like, Okay, he hasn't hit you know, 125 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 3: more than thirty the last two years combined because he 126 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 3: can't stay on the field, and so it's it's gonna 127 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: be you know, we saw the beginning of it this 128 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: year where that injury prone tag affected him in drafts, 129 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 3: and I think you're going to see it again next year, 130 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: and it's gonna he's probably gonna fall even further, and 131 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: someone is going to have to roll the dice and say, 132 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: am I going to take Mike Trout as a potential 133 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: league winner or is the risk too big? And it's 134 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 3: going to be fascinating to see where he goes because 135 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: he's not going to be a top two round pick anymore, 136 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: but you could potentially get someone who wins you your league. 137 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 4: Where do you think he goes? Fourth round? 138 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: Honestly, I think later. 139 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: I think this, like this has been building for a while, 140 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: and I think now it's like, what justification could you 141 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 2: possibly make for expecting him to play one hundred games 142 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: next season? 143 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: Like you can't say it doesn't run anymore, that's the 144 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 3: other he used to run. 145 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: And now I'm sure he's still gonna be a very 146 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: very good hitter when he's playing. I like, I don't 147 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 2: think the injuries are gonna sap him of his greatness. 148 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: They're just gonna sap him of the opportunity to be 149 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: on the field. And I don't know how any fantasy 150 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: manager can sit there on draft day next year and 151 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: say with any degree of confidence that this dude is 152 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: gonna be playing for me all season long. So for me, 153 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: like like truthfully, and maybe this means I just won't 154 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: get him. If everybody is a little more aggressive than 155 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 2: I am, I don't think I'll even consider him till 156 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: like round seven or eight. Like, I just I just 157 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: don't want to take a guy that you are essentially 158 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: guaranteeing I Elston's for like they're gonna find you elsewhere, 159 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: like people are gonna your players are gonna get hurt regardless. 160 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: Don't bring in a guy who's definitely gonna get hurt 161 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: when everybody else is also gonna do it. Like I 162 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: just I'm not going to be considering him until maybe 163 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: it's too late to get him. But I wouldn't be 164 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: surprised if there are leagues where he goes, you know, 165 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: outside the top one hundred, because why would they trust him? 166 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: I mean, there are all takes is one to take 167 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: the swing right, but that one won't be me before 168 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: pretty deep into the middle rounds of the draft. 169 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: If you look at his numbers, he hasn't played more 170 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: than one hundred and nineteen games since twenty nineteen. But 171 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: in that in twenty twenty two, we played one hundred 172 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: nineteen games and he hit forty home runs, not even 173 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: a full season forty home runs, only drove in eighty 174 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: because of the froster that he's on. 175 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 4: But yeah, no, you're probably right. Four. 176 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: I think four was probably he might have been going 177 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: this year in round four. I may have I may 178 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: have undersold it a little bit, but you're right, it's 179 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: probably gonna be Round six or later. And then no, 180 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: no upside for Steel. He was running a little bit 181 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: more this year. Six tolen bases after not we mentioned 182 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: this earlier in the year, but he stole six bases 183 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: in twenty nine games. He only play twenty nine games. 184 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: I thought it was even more than that, but we 185 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: only had twenty nine games this year, But so six 186 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: bases and twenty nine games after only stealing six the 187 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: last four years combined, and so it was like, oh, wow, 188 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: he might actually run more and we got like another 189 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: thirty twenty season out of him. 190 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 4: Forty twenty season. Nope. 191 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: Now, if there a saw me health, I take him 192 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: in the top five truthfully next year if you guarantee 193 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: me health. But the health question is enough that I 194 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: wouldn't take him the top one hundred. That is how 195 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: extreme the health question is. 196 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't sound like this is going to happen 197 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 3: based on everything he's been saying and his statement, everyth 198 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: the Angels are saying. But I saw Gray Albright from 199 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: Rasball tweet out that he just has this sinking feeling 200 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: that we're just going to wake up one morning and 201 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: Mike Krout's gonna announce that he's retired, which he's still 202 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 3: only thirty two. I guess he's probably going to be 203 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: thirty three next year, which is like not old. But 204 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: I mean, these injuries are just piling up. 205 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: I wouldn't blame him if he did choose to retire, 206 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: like the way he's talked about it, I don't think 207 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: that's gonna be the case. 208 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 4: That would be a lot of money too. I have 209 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 4: to walk away from a lot of money. 210 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And he seems like somebody who does like just 211 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: really enjoy the game. 212 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: Like you know, some people like play. 213 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: Everybody's really competitive, right, Like you don't make it to 214 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: this level without being like I would be a Hall 215 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: of Famer one day. Some guys are like like Bryce Harper, 216 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: the way he talks, he's like, Oh, he wants to 217 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: play because he wants to be the greatest of all time. 218 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: Trout like just seems like he's just maybe it's just 219 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: his personally. It just seems like a kid who just 220 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: I just want to play baseball, Like like, I can't 221 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: imagine walking away from that unless the injuries like are 222 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: so bad that he feels like it's going to impact 223 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: like his long term life, which doesn't feel like the 224 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: case yet. 225 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, I really sad. 226 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: And we said up before, this guy should be he 227 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 2: should be Mickey Mantle, and you know he was for 228 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: the you know, a decade or whatever, but it just 229 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 2: really feels like it's not like I can't imagine he 230 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: has a season where he tops one hundred and twenty 231 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: games again. And if he does, it's gonna be so fun. 232 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna love every second of it and appreciate it. 233 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 4: But turns thirty three and five days. 234 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: By the way, Okay, he's actually like a year or 235 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: two older than I expected. I thought he was more 236 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: like thirty one, close to thirty two, but it's not 237 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: that far. 238 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 4: He came up at nineteen. Yeah, you know, he came 239 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 4: up immediately. 240 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's go to the next topic, and 241 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna loop together kind of our second and 242 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: third news items here. Second item is Jackson Holiday back up. 243 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: After the trade deadline, the Orioles traded away Connor Norby, 244 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: which made room, and at first they announced they're gonna 245 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: call up Taren Vavra, and everybody was like, what the 246 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 2: hell we want Jackson Holiday? And then later that day 247 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: it was oh Holidays, on his way to Baltimore. 248 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: And he hit a grand slam. 249 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: It was you know, he obviously struggled mightily in his 250 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 2: first stint in the majors. Now it was like what 251 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: ten games, so very very small sample size, but he 252 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: looked completely overmatched. And then his first game back, he 253 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: hit a bomb almost four hundred and forty feet onto 254 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 2: Utah Street at Camden Yards for a grand slam, a 255 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: very very cathartic moment for him, I think cathartic for 256 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: Orioles fans. Just the weight kind of you could feel 257 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: he was like smiling around the bases, like you could 258 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 2: see the weight coming off his shoulders in real time. 259 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: And in that same game, he actually was like two 260 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: inches away from going APO. He was foul by about 261 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 2: two inches down the left field line, so he almost 262 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: at home runs like to the right field foul pole 263 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: and to the left field foul pole in the same game, which. 264 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: Would have been really remarkable. 265 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 2: And then of course in the next game in Cleveland, 266 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: he was back to the umpires are absolutely hosing this kid. 267 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: He had a strike called on him that was like 268 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: a foot and a half off the play, Like I'm 269 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: not even being hyperbolic. It was like arguably the worst 270 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: strike call I've ever seen, Like it was so far 271 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: off the plate and for a strike three, And it's like, 272 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: why are umpires treating this kid like he, you know, 273 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: is some you know. 274 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: Diva that needs to be taken down a peg. 275 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: Like it was brutal. But anyways, Holiday is up. The 276 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: third news item that I want to loop into this 277 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: is that Jordan Westberg and the Orioles infield, was hit 278 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 2: by a pitch on the hand, so he's going to il. 279 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: And we are seeing Kobe Mayo finally called up one 280 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 2: of the top hitting prospects in all of baseball, a 281 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: guy that the Orioles deemed to be untouchable in trades 282 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: during this trade deadline. He is now in Baltimore as well. 283 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: Very very good power hitter, average, you know, contactitor, but 284 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: good enough, but just the elite power. He's got a 285 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: cannon for an arm. There's he's sometimes erratic with throwing. 286 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 2: But anyways, there have been questions about his defense. I'm 287 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: not sure if he's going to play third or if 288 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: they're gonna squeez him in a DH here and there. 289 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: It remains to be seen. 290 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: The Orioles infield though, looks a lot different now with 291 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: Jordan Westburg out for a while, they were saying they 292 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: hope he comes back this you know, regular season, so 293 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: that you should assume you don't have him for a 294 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: while and need replacements. I think Kobe Mayo is a 295 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: worthy attempt at a replacement. I think this solidifies, like 296 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: Jackson Holiday, even if he struggles, like he's not going 297 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: to go anywhere because they're with Matteo on the il 298 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: rias struggling Westbrook on the al. They just need good 299 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: infield bodies now, So I think west I think Holiday 300 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: is going to get a lot of opportunities even if 301 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 2: he struggles, and I think Kobe Mayo is going to 302 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: get his chance too. So that was very long winded 303 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: by me because it was about the Orioles. But what 304 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 2: do you think about Holiday coming back up that fun 305 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: moment of the Grand Slam, Kobe Mayo as a replacement 306 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 2: for Westburg. 307 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: What do you make sense of this Orioles in field 308 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: right now? 309 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 3: Well, it was really impressed by your monologue because you 310 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: use cathartic and hyperbolic there, so just in awe of 311 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: you know, your vocabulary. 312 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 4: Very impressive. 313 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 3: Just took it all in, sat back and enjoyed the show. 314 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: I the one thing I was going to point out 315 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: you said almost immediately is that you know, not only 316 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 3: did Jackson Holiday hit that home run, but it was 317 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 3: not a cheapie. It was launched into right field. And 318 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: I've been to kend Yards and I've stood where that 319 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: warehouse is. It's very far out there, It's very far. 320 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: Utah Street has had something like one hundred and thirty 321 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: home runs hit on it. Ever, like in the in 322 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: thirty plus years of the ballpark, like it is not 323 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: easy to get to Utah Street. 324 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 4: Isn't it true? I remember learning this as a kid. 325 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: Isn't it true that a window has never been broken 326 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 3: on that warehouse, but that a ball bounced into an 327 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: open window once or something. 328 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: The warehouse has never been hit on the fly in 329 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: a game. The only time it has ever been hit 330 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: on the fly was Ken Griffy Junior during the home 331 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: run derby. But in a game it has never been 332 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: hit on the fly. There have been like four hundred 333 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: and seventy foot bombs at Canon Yards, But to hit 334 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: the warehouse on the fly, it has to be like 335 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: it has to be like a bomb like that like 336 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: four hundred and sixty something, four and seventy feet down 337 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: the line, because then it's angled in a way that 338 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: like if you get for if you're not right down 339 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: the line, it's even further away, so it's like really hard. 340 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: Like again, nobody's ever done it in an actual game. 341 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: I think I've heard stories about like balls bouncing in 342 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: or whatever, but I don't have, like, you know, a 343 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: recollection of a specific time. There was a great commercial 344 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: when I was growing up of like people working in 345 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: the warehouse and like the windows breaking right and left, 346 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: and they would be like, must be Gibby again, and 347 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: it was Jay Gibbons taking VP as the old commercial. 348 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 349 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 3: I went on a tour there as a kid, and 350 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 3: that always stood out to me that they said it's 351 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: never had a broken window, but that a ball has 352 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 3: bounced into an open window. 353 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 354 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 3: So given what he was doing in the miners, I'll 355 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: flip it back to you, do you think he's ready 356 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: this time around? Because the numbers and the miners are good, 357 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: but they're not eye popping. The walk rate is through 358 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: the roof of twenty one point walk rate. That's not bad. 359 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 3: You know, if he can come up and at least 360 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: get enough walks because it's very small sempathized, but it's 361 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: below less than five percent at at the major league level. 362 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: So if he can at least walk and get on base, 363 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: that can at least you know, slow or you know, 364 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: help him give I'm losing. I'm losing where I'm going 365 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: at the end of the sense. But you know what 366 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: I'm trying to say, where you know, getting on base 367 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: a little bit will help limit some of the other 368 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: struggles or you know, or at least hide them as 369 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: as he gets settled. 370 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he was clearly very good at Triple A, 371 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: like like he was good enough that he has earned 372 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: another chance to the major He was good enough the 373 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: first time to have earned the chance at the majors. 374 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: We've seen it so often with these top prospects who 375 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: come up and struggle, go deet, back down, reset, come 376 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: back up and are much better. If he keeps getting 377 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: these bogus strikes called on him, then I don't know 378 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: how he'll do. But yeah, I have zero, I mean 379 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: literally zero concerns about him long term. I want him rostered, 380 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: Like if he's available, I'm not letting him sit on waivers. 381 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: I'm probably not starting him until he goes on an 382 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: actual hot streak, like one majestic cathartic com run is 383 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: not going to be enough for me to just set 384 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: it and forget it in the starting lineup. But I 385 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: want him on my rosters, and if he starts to 386 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: look hot for like one series even, I'll probably then 387 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: put him in the lineup, Like I want to see it, 388 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: Like I want to see him have a series where 389 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: he goes like six for eleven with three extra base 390 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: hits and look, his two of the outs are hit 391 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: really hard as well, Like I want to see that 392 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: kind of series. Like, Okay, he's kind of got it, 393 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: because they they really have a need for quite frankly, 394 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: like an on base guy in the top of the lineup. Yeah, uh, 395 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: they do have kind of a need for speed, especially 396 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 2: with Matteo hurt and and Pasche dfaide. But yeah, like 397 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 2: they like ideal scenarios. He's good enough to be their 398 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: lead off hitter. He's not that yet, but like that's 399 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: a great place to be if you're uh, you know, 400 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: want to score runs in fantasies to be atop the 401 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: Oriols lineup. 402 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, I want him rostered. 403 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: I think he is ready, but we'll need to see 404 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: more before I'm like gonna be really gung ho about it. 405 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: Kobe Mayo also is ready. 406 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: The question is is he ready ready or is he 407 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 2: I've proved enough in Triple A, but the gap is 408 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: really wide now ready again, the opportunity is going to 409 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: be there with Westburg hurt and Matteo hurt and Arius 410 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: not very. 411 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: Good even though he's inexplicably still around. 412 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: So but like it's also just really exciting for Orioles 413 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: fans to be We're gonna get a lineup with the 414 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: with Old Kowser, with Gunnard Henderson, with Adlai Richman, with 415 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: Jackson Holliday, with Kobe Mayo all in the same line up. 416 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 2: Hessecuresad got sent down, which was really annoying. But there's 417 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: only so many at bats, you know, available, So I. 418 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 4: Give Jmens those at bats. That's you got to you 419 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 4: gotta squeeze them in. 420 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 421 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: I'm really, uh, just like excited, like like like it 422 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: might not work right away because we've seen with other 423 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: top prospects. I think Scott White of CBS said that 424 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 2: Kobe Mayo was gonna be like his twenty first strength 425 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: third baseman right off the bat. So it's not like 426 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: this is some like again immediate must ark guy. But 427 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: when you bring up elite bats, it's exciting and you 428 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: want to see if they can hit the ground running. 429 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: So very fun stuff in Baltimore. Not fun that Westburg 430 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: is hurt obviously, you know. 431 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 3: Third third base is pretty still pretty shallow, so that's 432 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: an important distinction for Kobe Mayo. I've been riding Mark 433 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 3: Viento's for a while now and just hoping the wheels 434 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: don't fall off that train. So but it's not a 435 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: very deep position, so that that's awesome. 436 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 2: Important last news item here, Clayton Kershaw rocked in his 437 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: second start three and two thirds, inning six hits, seven runs, 438 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: just three of them, earned one home run, one walk, 439 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: no strikeouts. For the first time in his career, he 440 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: completed to start without striking on anybody. You know, Kershaw obviously, 441 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: like I would argue the best picture of our generation, at. 442 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: Least at his peak. 443 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: Actually, that would be an interesting conversation, like cause you know, 444 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 2: Max Sures are obviously extremely accomplished. Justin Verlander one an 445 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 2: MVP extremely accomplished. It's those two in Kershaw, right am 446 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: I forgetting anybody just off the top of my head, 447 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: with having done no research, that deserves. 448 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: To be one that I think it depends on how 449 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 3: far back you want to go. You could throw like, 450 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: are we going a little bit further back where we 451 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: include someone like Patro Martinez. 452 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: I'm thinking more recent than patric Yeah, yeah. 453 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, de Grom before he fell off. 454 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. 455 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: You look at the peaks like Felix, like Felix Hernandez's peak, 456 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: de Gram's peak. I feel like there's a name I'm forgetting. 457 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure like y'all hat Santana's peak. It might be 458 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 2: a little early. I'm sure there's somebody I'm forgetting that. 459 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: Maybe somebody will let me know in the comments. Those 460 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 2: are the three that first come to mind, though. Anyways, 461 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 2: he's like thirty six now obviously as dealt with injury 462 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 2: is a ton. Do you have any interest in Kershaw 463 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 2: or is he like he just should be not very 464 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 2: rostered anywhere. 465 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: I do have some interest in him, but it depends 466 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 3: on the format. I'm in a format where and I 467 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 3: mentioned this before in the show, I'm in a few 468 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: formats where volume matters, especially in some of my. 469 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 4: Head to head. 470 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: Leagues where if you know, if I want to kind 471 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 3: of dominate, I need to lock in my lineup spots 472 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 3: and have maybe one or two only bench pats, and 473 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 3: then for pitching because I can it's head to head 474 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: and I have daily lineups. I need ten or eleven 475 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: starting like not just pitchers, like starting pitchers to be 476 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: able to just throw out volume. And you can't just 477 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: throw out like junkie volume. You need like average to 478 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 3: above average volume. Like I kept a bunch of elite 479 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: elite pictures and I filled it in with good to 480 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: above average to great pictures depending on how things have fallen. 481 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 3: But I do roster Clayton Kershaw in two of those leagues. 482 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: One of the one is Dynasty, one is Keeper. I'm 483 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: not going to keep Clayton Kershaw, but I picked him 484 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 3: up two weeks ago when he was hurt and he 485 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 3: was coming back, and I was like, I'll take a 486 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 3: flyer on Kershaw because I mean, if you look at 487 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 3: just last year, he's not the dominant pitcher that he 488 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 3: was in the past, and you just kind of picture 489 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: him as this like crafty, lefty veteran. But last year 490 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 3: year right two point four to six granted a lot 491 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 3: of the expected numbers were much worse than that. But 492 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 3: I also, you know, give some of that credit to 493 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: him that he's just pitching, like he knows his limitations now, 494 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 3: and so I think you're going to get the occasional 495 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 3: implotions start here. But if he can, you know, come 496 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 3: back and show that he's healthy, I think there's some 497 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 3: some potential for some solid endings there. I don't think 498 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: you need to race to the you know, to put 499 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 3: him in your lineup like I'm doing, because I did 500 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: have an the lineup for that bad start the other day. 501 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: But I think it's it's format dependent, and he has 502 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: such a long track record and we haven't seen him 503 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 3: be beat for any kind of extended period before, and 504 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: so until we do, you just kind of have to 505 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: assume that maybe he's just a erlander and he's ageless 506 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 3: despite the injuries. 507 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I want to see him have a 508 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: very valuable start before I'm starting him. But I mean, 509 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: just looking at the name alone is like, we know 510 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 2: what Clayton Kershaw has been for so long that I 511 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 2: get the appeal of one roster. I mean, he's rostered 512 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: in like seventy four percent of leagues it's not like 513 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: he's like available everywhere, but kind of a it's not 514 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: evenly somebody who can trade for or away. It's just 515 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: kind of like you have him or you don't, and 516 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: kind of sit on him to see what what he 517 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: turns into the rest of the way, All right, let's 518 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: get into the trade deadline. So basically the way we're 519 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 2: going to do this is just kind of run through 520 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: various trades and give our some quicker, some maybe a 521 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: little deeper reaction to to what went down and what 522 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 2: it means for baseball and what it means for fantasy. 523 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: These are not really in any particular order. 524 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: It was basically the order that I was, you know, 525 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: remembering them as I was trying to write them down 526 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 2: in the outline. 527 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: And so this isn't like. 528 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 4: You told me you did this all from memory, didn't 529 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 4: look any. 530 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: Of the I specifically said, I did not do this 531 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: all from memory, but I I did some of it 532 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: from memory. But there's so many trades, as we talked about, 533 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 2: that it's impossible to kind of keep track of everything 534 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: without at least a bit of a refresher looking it up. 535 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 2: So we'll start with the first ones I wrote down, 536 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: which were the Orioles ones, because obviously those were the 537 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 2: ones I remembered most soccer. They did a lot of moves, 538 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: not like that big you know, trade for Garrett Krochet 539 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 2: or tricks Google move. But they trade for Zach Eflin, 540 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: your favorite picture. They also trade for Trevor Rodgers, who 541 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: was terrible on his debut last night. The trade for 542 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: Eloy Jimenez, former top prospect, trade for Gregorrisoto and Sir 543 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 2: Anthony Dominguez to bolster their bullpen. And they trade for 544 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 2: Austin Slater, the outfielder from the Reds. So I like 545 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: the big one obviously here is Ethlyn. The rest are 546 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: not that interesting, particularly because the relievers aren't going to 547 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: be the closer in Baltimore, even if they're gonna, you know, 548 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: help the bullpen a bit. 549 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: You know, Eloy is not going to play a lot. 550 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: He can't really play in the field and is only 551 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: really good against you know, lefty pitching. Austin Slater also 552 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: only good against lefties. He's never gonna play against righties. 553 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: And Rogers is somebody who was good as a rookie 554 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 2: but basically hasn't been good for like three years. And 555 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: the Orioles gave up two major league ready prospects. This 556 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: was the Connor Norby and Kyle Stowers deal. I really 557 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 2: didn't get this one. Like he is under team control 558 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: for a couple more years. Like I get why the 559 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: Orioles would be interested in having Trevor Rodgers on their roster, 560 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: but like they paid more for him than they did 561 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 2: for Zach Eflin. 562 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: Like I didn't get the f Efflyn is the one 563 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: to me for fantasy. 564 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: Where there could be real value here. Obviously, he goes 565 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 2: to a ballpark with very you know, pitcher friendly dimensions. 566 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: He goes to ballpark with a lot of you know, 567 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: to a roster with a lot of opportunities. 568 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: To get wins. You know. 569 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 2: Obviously, Eflyn a guy who doesn't walk anybody. The Orioles 570 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: have done a really good job with kind of improving pictures, 571 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 2: you know, strikeout rates. It's not like it happens to everybody. 572 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 2: And obviously, like they felt they need to go on 573 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: trade for him because they didn't have the pitching death. 574 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: So it's not like they're like some automatic like he's 575 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 2: gonna take a step up and be really good. But 576 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: I think this is a pitching development team. That can 577 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: you know, work with him, and he's a bulldog and 578 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 2: he's gonna fit in really well as a number three. 579 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: I really liked the move, particularly looking at what pitching 580 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: costs later, What did you think about these moves in 581 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 2: bulk but largely Eflyn, who I know you're a big 582 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: fan of. 583 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a big fan of Ethlyn. 584 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 3: We I talked about it on our Future Pros before 585 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 3: the trade deadline. I talked about it, I think a 586 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: little bit here before the trade deadline. 587 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 4: Is someone I could. 588 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 3: See being traded, who could be valuable if he went 589 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 3: to a better place, a better ballpark, and he did so. 590 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 3: I really liked that movie. I also think he's going 591 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 3: to be better than he has been this year. I 592 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 3: think it's just been a really weird year for him, 593 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 3: and I think there's a lot more upside. And yeah, 594 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 3: I think it's a short term in a long term 595 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: play to kind of keep a picture like that around 596 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 3: the Trevor Rodgers deal. I'm with you, I didn't really 597 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 3: like that just looking at it from like a fantasy perspective. 598 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 3: He's someone who was you know, he had that breakout 599 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 3: year and then he was someone a lot of people, 600 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: including myself had rostered in Dynasty and we're excited about 601 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 3: and I was fortunate enough to see some of the 602 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 3: warning signs at the time and kind of get out 603 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 3: early and like sell high on Trevor Rodgers, but he's 604 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 3: been bad that I've seen him drop in some Dynasty 605 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 3: leagues where people just don't see the upside anymore. And 606 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 3: even even this year, one hundred nine innings adh strikeouts 607 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 3: like four point seven to sixty ra all expect the 608 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 3: numbers are right around there too. Just not a whole 609 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 3: lot to be excited about, but still not old and 610 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 3: so maybe you're right, the Ools will unlock something there. 611 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: But I also didn't like what they had to pay 612 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 3: to get him. We're not going to talk about that 613 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: trade this other trade on the show because it's not 614 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 3: going to really have much fantasy IR relevance, but the 615 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 3: Red Sox traded away one of their better hitting prospects 616 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: for a similarly, he's a much younger picture, but it 617 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 3: was a young prospect for a young pitcher, and I 618 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: didn't like the Red Sox giving up on that young 619 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 3: hitter either. Whereas Trevor Rodgers has been in the league 620 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 3: for a little bit and he struggled the last three years. 621 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 3: And I also thought it was interesting that they the 622 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: Phillies are struggling and needing bullpen help and they traded 623 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 3: to bullpen pieces to the Orioles. So it's kind of like, hey, 624 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 3: take some of our junk, and. 625 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 2: I do think problem like they got a good haul 626 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: for Sodo. Seth Johnson is a picture I really liked 627 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: for the Orioles. They got him in the I think 628 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 2: that was the one. It was either the horre No. 629 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: I think they got him the trade Mancceni deal. It 630 00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 2: was one of those deals two years ago and everybody 631 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 2: was mad that they were selling when they had a 632 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: chance to maybe sneak into the wild card. That was 633 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 2: when they trade away Jorge Lopez and Mancini. I think 634 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: it was Seth Johnson came back to the Nancinnie deal. 635 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: He was like a good picture, I thought. And then 636 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: also Moyes's Chase Chasse. I'm not sure I pronounced that. 637 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: He's like a very young guy, but he's like a sleeper. 638 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: A lot of people in the Oriels organization have spoken 639 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: very highly loved, so like, I think the Phillies did 640 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: a good job in getting that return for Sodo. But 641 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 2: it is funny that they would trade away two bullpen 642 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: pieces to this, you know, other contender. 643 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: It was an interesting one. 644 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 2: But yeah, Ethlyn like I picked him up. Actually he 645 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 2: was available in one of my leagues, and I was like, 646 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: I will happily take him. Uh given this trade, but yeah, 647 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: we'll see what happens the rest of the season. He's 648 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: made one start already and was okay in it. Another 649 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: picture that was on the move. 650 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: Uh, you say, Kakuchi to the Houston Astros. 651 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 2: This was if a lot of people, the way they 652 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: reacted was a bit of an overpay. Joey Loperfido was 653 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: on the move a couple other like some of the 654 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: ash top prospects. I have a friend out here in 655 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: Denver who's a big Astros fan. I was talking to 656 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: him about it and he was like, yeah, like the 657 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: g I was saying before the season that like low 658 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 2: Berfito is like untouchable. I guess that meant unless a 659 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: two month rental arm becomes unavailable and all of a sudden, 660 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: he's quite touchable. Like what do you think about this move? 661 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: And how big of an upgrade is it? Forkkuchi for fantasy? 662 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 3: I think it's a decent upgrade for him, but I 663 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: thought it was a, like you said, a massive overpay. 664 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: I really like low perfito. He's not the youngest prospect, 665 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: but I think there's a lot of upside there. I 666 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: was excited about him earlier this year when he came 667 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 3: up and there was you know, you saw some flashes. 668 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 3: You know, it hasn't exactly panned out, but he's he's 669 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: not thirty years old. He's still a really good. 670 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: I think, a good fit in Toronto too. 671 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 672 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, And they also got Will Wagner again like an 673 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 3: older prospect but still you know, and then Jake Bloss 674 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 3: also not you know, nothing of a prospect, and so 675 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 3: it was kind of an interesting move from an Asteris 676 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: team that a couple months ago we were talking about 677 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 3: my sellar at the deadline if they didn't turn things around. 678 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 3: But they have turned things around. So it was very 679 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 3: much a seller's market. This was this might be the 680 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 3: biggest overpay of the deadline. And what was a really 681 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 3: weird deadline with a lot of you know, some teams overpaying, 682 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: other teams getting what looked like bargains, and then some 683 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: teams trading players like I tweeted out the time this. 684 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: I've never seen more below average players traded in one 685 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: single deadline. There was just a lot of okay, like 686 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: this guy might be able to help us, Like there's 687 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 3: nothing else better out there, let's let's give it a shot. 688 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 3: And it was there was I mean, we'll talk, we'll 689 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 3: continue to talk about the ones that were interesting for fantasy, 690 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 3: but there was just a you know, it wasn't like 691 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 3: a trade deadline where nothing happened, where sometimes some years 692 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 3: we get those really quiet trade deadlines. It was a 693 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: pretty busy deadline. It was just the names being moved, 694 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 3: We're all over the place and just we're like, okay. 695 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,239 Speaker 2: Well felt like if you went early, you got like 696 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: the Flip I thought was one of the best values 697 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: any team got in terms of what the Oriols had 698 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: to give up to get it him. And then as 699 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: you got closer, like the Cacuchie trade almost like kind 700 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: of blew the market open and like reset what pictures 701 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: were going for, and then it was like you had 702 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: to overpay to get somebody that was really interesting that 703 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: just I'll just stick with the pictures here and kind 704 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: of go out of order from the sheet Jack Flaherty 705 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: to the Dodgers. I mean, somebody who has been traded 706 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 2: in the last two trade deadlines after you know, being 707 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: kind of rentals for those guys obviously, somebody who has 708 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: had really awesome flashes in the past, has been an 709 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: elite picture for stretches, you know, particularly when he was 710 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: with Saint Louis, and has been really good this year. 711 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: I mean I saw people saying that the Orioles to 712 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: trade for both him and Scooball and just give up 713 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 2: all their top prospects to do so, and I kind 714 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: of vehemently disagreed with that notion. But you know, Flari 715 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: has been really strong with Detroit this year and he 716 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: didn't really go for that much to get to the 717 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: Los Angeles. 718 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. That was a 719 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 3: little bit different from what you were saying before, where 720 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 3: you know, if you went early, he was the last 721 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 3: picture traded, and it seemed like Detroit just got down 722 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 3: to the wire and they just kind of said, uh, 723 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 3: we'll take these guys, like just take Jack Fighter because 724 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 3: we're not going to resign him anyway. So that seemed 725 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 3: like the Dodgers really like played a game of chicken 726 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 3: with the Tigers and won because they got Jack Flaherty 727 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,239 Speaker 3: at the final minute. But yeah, that might be one 728 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 3: of the They might be one of the biggest winners 729 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 3: from the deadline for that. And it just seems like 730 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 3: the Dodgers go out and get everybody all the time. 731 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 3: I don't even know how many roster spots they have 732 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 3: out there in Los Angeles, but they seem to roster everyone, 733 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 3: and there once again made a really good move. 734 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: What do we think of Eric Fetti to Saint Louis? 735 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 4: I like it. I like it. 736 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 3: I like an Eric Fetty And the only thing I 737 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: tried I was going to write about him. I forget 738 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 3: if we talked about last week or not, but I 739 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 3: know I considered writing about him in the by Low 740 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: article last week, but I decided he wasn't really he 741 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 3: didn't really qualify as a bye Low because despite being 742 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 3: on the White Sox, he was still winning games. 743 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 4: And so he goes to a team that's. 744 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 3: Know, every other team out there is better than the 745 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 3: White Sox, and so it's you know, it's hard to 746 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: not be an upgrade for Freddy other than getting out 747 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 3: of you know, leaving that picture friend the ballpark. 748 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: I missed the days when it was really simple of 749 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: the trade deadline, because of the d H being different 750 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: in each league. Of like, oh, picture got trade to 751 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 2: the National League, that's stock up. Oh he got traded 752 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: to the American League. Stock down. It used to be 753 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 2: so simple. Yeah, I'm with you and Fettie. I don't 754 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: have like a lot of like deep dive thoughts. And 755 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: we've talked about him on the show a couple of 756 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 2: times this season. But yeah, I mean clear clearly more 757 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: opportunity for wins. 758 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: So I like the move. 759 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 2: The only other starting pitcher trade that I wrote down was, 760 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: you know, Paul Blackburn to the Mets. 761 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 4: Joe pc is favorite picture. 762 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was good. 763 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: I brought him up specifically for Joey p with that trade. 764 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: Do you have any fantasy thoughts? So that's what we 765 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 2: can move on from that one. 766 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: No, I haven't had any fantasy thoughts on Paul Blackburn 767 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 3: for several years. Yeah, I like remind Joe every time 768 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: his name comes up. 769 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: I kind of bring that one up, just as joeyp 770 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: shout out. All right, let's uh, let's talk about some 771 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: of the relievers that were traded. The big one Tanner Scott, 772 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 2: who has been one of the best relievers in baseball last. 773 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 4: Couple of years. 774 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 2: It just hard for me to believe considering how erratic 775 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: he was when he was in the Orioles farm system 776 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 2: and in the Orioles bullpen. But he his slider's really good. 777 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 2: He's he's obviously a very good lefty. He went for 778 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 2: a haul to San Diego. And now some of these 779 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: prospects are gonna be a bit lower when these prospect 780 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: ranking sites kind of reset. You know, Robbie Snelling has 781 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 2: not had a very good year, and you know, Adam 782 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 2: Aser isn't. 783 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: Like this mega elite guy. 784 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 2: But like from what it looks like based on just 785 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 2: kind of the looking at like MLB pipeline, their prospect rankings, 786 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: this was basically the biggest prospect package that was moved 787 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 2: at the deadline to get Tanner Scott. They also got 788 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 2: Jason Adam, so really attacking the bullpen in San Diego. 789 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: And it's interesting because you know, obviously not everybody can close, 790 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 2: so it hurts the fantasy value for a guy like Scott. 791 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: And I'm I'm not really sure who did I just 792 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 2: not look close enough? Is there an obvious closer replacement 793 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: in in Miami? 794 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 3: Now I was actually just looking it up before, and no, 795 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 3: I think I was. 796 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 2: I remember thinking there was it, but I didn't know 797 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 2: if they had like announced anything, and I just missed it. 798 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 4: Not that I've seen. 799 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 3: I was listening to the CBS guys shortly after the deadline, 800 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 3: and especially because Chris Towers is a Marlins fan and 801 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,479 Speaker 3: so they were asking him, and he thinks it's gonna 802 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 3: be Anthony Benner, but I don't think there's a clear 803 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 3: front runner there. 804 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 4: It could be him, but also it might not be. 805 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: What do you think about this? For San Diego? 806 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 4: I'm fine with it. 807 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 3: You know, I worry about Tanner Scott, but he's it's 808 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 3: hard to deny that he's been very good. But as 809 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 3: far as Tanner Scott's fantasy value, it's oo gone. Yeah. 810 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 2: We've We've mentioned the Marlins a couple of times, like 811 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 2: they were among the most active teams, kind of up 812 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 2: there with the Rays. They got Connor Norby, who I 813 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,479 Speaker 2: talked about last week as a good waiver pickup, because 814 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 2: I was like, he's gonna have an opportunity in Baltimore, 815 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 2: and even if he doesn't, team's not going to trade 816 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: for a major league ready prospect like Norby and not 817 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: give him a chance, and then the Marlins immediately optioned 818 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 2: him after trading for him, which I do not understand. 819 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 2: It's like, how are you even going to put together 820 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: a lineup with all the trades he made? And this 821 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 2: guy who is has been in Triple A for like 822 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: a year and a half and is too good for 823 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 2: Triple A, who needs all he needs is a shot. 824 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 2: I'm a big Connor Norby fan. I didn't get that 825 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 2: at all. Kyle Stowers also very big league ready. He 826 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: did not have a great first game. I think he 827 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,919 Speaker 2: struck out four times against you know in that first 828 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 2: game with the Marlins. But you know, they added Norby, 829 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 2: they added Stowers, they had Robbie Snelling, they added other guys. 830 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: What did you think of what you know? The Hall 831 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 2: and just how active the Marlins were. 832 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 3: I saw something that their their payroll is down to 833 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 3: something like fourteen million dollars, which is absolutely absurd. 834 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 4: Should be legal, there should be a salary floor. 835 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 3: But yeah, everything I've seen is that they are nowhere 836 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 3: closed to contending anyway, and so if you're not going 837 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 3: to contend, you might as well sell and get a hall. 838 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 3: And it seems like they got a hall. And they 839 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 3: need a hall. They really they need a hall, and 840 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 3: they need an overhaul. And so yeah, I like the 841 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 3: return for them, and it seems all the people I 842 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 3: respect in the industry had good things to say about, 843 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 3: you know, the prospects that they got back. 844 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 4: So good for them. Will they ever spend money? We'll 845 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 4: find out. 846 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: Carlos Estevez to the Phillies. 847 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 2: Obviously kind of opening up closer opportunities in Los Angeles 848 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 2: for somebody new. What do you think about this one 849 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 2: from a fantasy perspective? And by the way, this was 850 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 2: another one where it was kind of like an overpay 851 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 2: at least that was the reaction from people initially. 852 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, you think he's going to be 853 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 3: the closer? 854 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 2: I don't, but I don't know for sure, but I 855 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 2: don't think so exactly. 856 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I know, MacArthur has has struggled, which has 857 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 3: really opened the door because he was a big Cell 858 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 3: High candidate for a while because he was their closer, 859 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 3: and it just kind of seemed like that was just 860 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 3: never gonna last. And so good on them for going 861 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 3: out and you know, kind of getting some reinforcements there. 862 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 3: My uh, my pick there is that Hunter Harvey might 863 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 3: end up as the closer there, but you know they didn't. 864 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 2: Acquire Sorry interrupt, but just just to make sure we're 865 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 2: not confusing the listeners. 866 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: You've jumped ahead to the next one we. 867 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: I was talking about, and that cross that's next on 868 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 2: the list is Lucas Erse, which I loved that that 869 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 2: move for the Royals. By the way, like he's under 870 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 2: team control for like five more years. I know he 871 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,479 Speaker 2: was better early in the year than he has been later, 872 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 2: but I really liked that reinforcement that the Royals got. 873 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 2: You know, Hunter Harvey obviously has been banked up since 874 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 2: getting traded there. You mentioned MacArthur was so high early, 875 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 2: So I don't think is gonna like wind up being 876 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 2: the closer or anything, but I think it was a 877 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 2: good move for the Royals. Do you have thoughts on 878 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: est the. 879 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 4: Least, clearly? I do not. Clearly, I have no thoughts. 880 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 2: No. 881 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 3: I actually think he probably would. I think he will 882 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 3: get save opportunities in Philadelphia. I don't know that they're 883 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 3: going to have a set closer. I think he'll Yeah. 884 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 2: So when you asked me, do you think he's gonna 885 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 2: be the closer you were asking about or six. I 886 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 2: was answering for Esteveez, but that was my mindset was 887 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to be the set closer. 888 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: I do think there will be save opportunities though. 889 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 3: All right, next player, you asked me about a player, 890 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 3: and then see if you can figure out which player 891 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 3: I'm talking about as I start answering. 892 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 4: Well, the. 893 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 2: Last kind of relief picture that I was going to 894 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 2: hit on is the one you kind of just added 895 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 2: to the bottom of the outline. Now, Michael Kopek going, 896 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 2: you know, to the Dodgers in that trade, Tommy Edmund 897 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,439 Speaker 2: Vargas going back to the White Sox. Do you think 898 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 2: there's kind of big fantasy implications for this one or just. 899 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: More of an interesting move that you wanted to hit on. 900 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 3: So I was talking to Kelly Kirby, our good friend 901 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 3: of the show, Kelly Kirby about this move, because we 902 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 3: are both in our dueling championships in the Fantasy pros 903 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 3: leagues and she needs saves and was really excited about 904 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 3: this move because she thought Qubec could be getting save 905 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 3: opportunities and he was available, and I just said. 906 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 4: I am not so sure about that one. 907 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 3: Daniel Hudson's been pitching really well, So even if they 908 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 3: move away from Evan Fville, so I think it's Daniel Hudson. 909 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 3: And then also David Roberts has shown that he will 910 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 3: do whatever he wants in any given day, and he 911 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 3: will have Brent Honeywell get a save if he wants to. 912 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 3: And so even if Kopec does get the occasional save opportunity, 913 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 3: I like this move for him long term. I'm a 914 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 3: Michael Kopec truther all the way back to the days 915 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 3: of his Red Sox Farm System days. But I don't 916 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 3: know that there's gonna be a ton of value for 917 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 3: him unless you're in a league that rewards for holds, 918 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 3: which I am in a couple of Yeah, even if 919 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 3: he gets save opportunities, you might get one every two weeks, 920 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 3: which you can't really rely on that in your roster 921 00:40:59,400 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 3: every day. 922 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 2: Let's talk about some of the hitters, and I want 923 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 2: to ask you what was the most significant hitter trade 924 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 2: besides because I think to me the clear one is 925 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 2: Jazz chislm Besides him, who do you think is the 926 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 2: next most significant? 927 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 3: I think, well, the clear answer is Jazz Chism. That 928 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,879 Speaker 3: was going to be my answer before you you took 929 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 3: the answer away from me. I think it's probably going 930 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 3: to end up being Randy A rose Arena. I have 931 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 3: my own concerns about Randy A. Rose Areina, but I 932 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 3: think he has the ceiling to be the biggest impact 933 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 3: that And we've also seen him step up on the 934 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 3: big stage before. He might just be one of those 935 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 3: guys that when the lights turn on, he can he 936 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 3: can step up and be a different kind of player. 937 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 3: And maybe playing in Tampa Bay for so long in 938 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 3: front of no fans just kind of robbed him of 939 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 3: some of that enthusiasm. So I think, you know, we 940 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 3: always talk about these players with you know, with numbers 941 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 3: and metrics, and I'm extremely guilty. 942 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,439 Speaker 4: Of that as well. 943 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 3: But I think it also can be interesting that, you know, 944 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 3: you play in a place like Tampa and it's just 945 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 3: an empty ballpark every night. And we saw what he 946 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 3: did in the playoffs, maybe going into a playoff race 947 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 3: like this with a you know, a much better crowd, 948 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 3: maybe we see a different Randy Rosereina and we see 949 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 3: him reach that ceiling again. 950 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 2: They sure needed hitting help too in Seattle, so they 951 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,439 Speaker 2: have a need for him. Let's talk about jazz, because, 952 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 2: like I said, he is kind of I was curious 953 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 2: who you thought the second one was, but the number 954 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 2: one is obvious Jazz the Yankees now playing third base 955 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 2: for them. He was really good in center field in Miami, 956 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 2: like he made that transition nicely. Certainly he was against 957 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 2: the Orioles where he robbed Anthony Santandero about eighteen different 958 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 2: hits in that series. But it has gotten off to 959 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 2: a hot start with New York. 960 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: Obviously. I thought it was funny that it was like, oh, 961 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: he can't. 962 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 2: Wear number two, that's Derek Jeter's number, and then it's like, okay, 963 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 2: he's wearing Alex Rodriguez's number, Like. 964 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:52,919 Speaker 1: Hey, Rod was a better player than Jeter. 965 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 2: I know there was the steroid stuff, but I think 966 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 2: I think I saw not to mention, you know, just 967 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 2: keep drawing from him, but I think I saw Scott 968 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 2: White mentioned something like that a Rod's Yankees career would 969 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 2: make him like an inner circle legend for every other franchise, 970 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 2: but for the Yankees. It's like, oh, it wasn't Jeter, 971 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 2: and you know, again the steroids stuff, but yeah, I 972 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 2: just thought that was kind of and he's playing a 973 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 2: Rod's position, and I'm like, this should be maybe be 974 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 2: a little more sacred, but yeah, this is a I 975 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 2: mean the Yankees lineup was Juan Soto, Aaron Judge, and 976 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 2: a bag of peanuts. 977 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 4: I mean it was and your softball team. 978 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, my injured softball status would have been an improvement, 979 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 2: it felt like on some of those players. I mean 980 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 2: it was, it was bad. So this is obviously a 981 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 2: huge upgrade beyond those two. And like I said, starting 982 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 2: off hot, do you think he can be like I 983 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 2: don't want to say a lead but like a really 984 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 2: really good fantasy asset here to close up the season 985 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 2: with this movie. I mean, obviously it's a ballpark that 986 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 2: really benefits hitters as well. 987 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think the ballpark, there's no better ballpark 988 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 3: in baseball for a left handed hitter. They don't have 989 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 3: a deep lineup, but immediately around him, he's gonna be 990 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 3: Juan Soto and Aaron Judge. You can't really get much 991 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 3: better lineup protection than that. And I also think he's 992 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 3: another player who was playing in Miami. And now you go, 993 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 3: you know, we've seen before. As much as I am 994 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 3: a Yankees hater, you've seen players before put on the 995 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 3: pinstripes and become a different player, Like playing in New 996 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 3: York and putting in that uniform, you can see them 997 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 3: unlock a new level. And he might just be one 998 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 3: of those guys because he hasn't been there long and 999 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 3: he's already hit a ton of home runs. 1000 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 2: It's funny to me that, like the Yankees are like, oh, 1001 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 2: we're this professional, prestigious organization so much soother that you're 1002 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,839 Speaker 2: not even allowed to have facial hair. And then it's like, oh, 1003 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 2: like but this like guy who's dripping with swag and 1004 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 2: Aura and riz and whatever gen Z is calling it 1005 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 2: these days. Like and by the way, I'm all for it. 1006 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 2: I love personality and baseball, I love flair, I love 1007 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 2: you know, showing your personality. 1008 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: Like I'm extremely for that. 1009 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 2: It's just such a funny fit with what we think 1010 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 2: of the Yankee historically to be yep. 1011 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 3: And I've already seen people on Twitter going back and 1012 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 3: forth because there are you know, the the Yankees fans 1013 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 3: who are all into that, and they're like, you. 1014 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 4: Know, they're gonna clean that up, like they're not gonna let. 1015 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 3: Him do that stuff, and and everyone's just going at 1016 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 3: them like get over yourself. 1017 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 2: Kuh yeah. Speaking of third basement, which gestism now is 1018 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 2: the Cubs and Raised swapped Theirs for some reason. I 1019 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,320 Speaker 2: wasn't entirely sure what was going on here. You know, Initially, 1020 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,280 Speaker 2: when I see Paradis on the move to Chicago, I'm like, okay, 1021 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 2: like Junior Cameronaro maybe at some point like soon, and 1022 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 2: then you know they're getting morell back. 1023 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: So what did you make of this deal? 1024 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 4: Baffled me. 1025 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 3: I didn't understand this move for either team. They were 1026 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 3: both selling, and I also don't think Parades is. 1027 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 4: Good, and so I don't really know. I don't get it. 1028 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 3: Like I feel like the Rays, you know, the Cubs 1029 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 3: like called that and they're like, hey, we want like 1030 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 3: East gig Pretties, and they were like, really, okay, give 1031 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 3: us christ Christopher Morrel for him. They're like all right, 1032 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 3: and uh the Rays works sweet done deal, Like it 1033 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 3: was probably a thirty second conversation because East gy Pretties. 1034 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 4: Is not good. 1035 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 3: Granted he did hit thirty one home runs last year, 1036 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 3: but I think there's a lot of smoke and mirrors there. 1037 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 3: There's a lot to dislike in his bad at ball profile, 1038 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 3: and it almost feels like a really smart franchise like 1039 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 3: the Rays sold high on a player like we do 1040 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 3: in fantasy for pretty much a by low in Christopher 1041 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 3: Morrell that they think has better underlying metrics. And I 1042 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,280 Speaker 3: don't really get the move for I like it more 1043 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 3: for the Rays because I think they just sold high, 1044 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 3: but I also thought it was a weird. 1045 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 2: The Rays are a terrifying team to trade with, Like, 1046 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 2: even though I loved the e Flyn deal, like the 1047 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 2: three sleeper prospects they got, I'm like, I'm sure two 1048 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 2: of them are going to turn into all stars just 1049 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 2: the way the Rays are. Then, yeah, maybe this is 1050 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 2: another scenario of them just being smarter than everybody else. 1051 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: But we'll see. 1052 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 3: This is in a scenario where if you just threw 1053 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 3: out the stats and you you did one of those 1054 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 3: things where you just pulled up like player A versus 1055 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 3: player B metrics. 1056 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 4: Which player do you want? 1057 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 3: One hundred percent of the people would pick Christopher Morrell 1058 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 3: based just on the on the you know, advanced stats profile, 1059 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 3: except for like you know, his uh sweet spot percentage, 1060 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 3: which you know, I think that's objective anyway, but yeah, 1061 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,399 Speaker 3: yeah it's I don't I like it for the race. 1062 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 3: I think they sold high. 1063 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 2: What and like to your point, like the Cubs were 1064 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 2: sellers like they got, or like at least to a 1065 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 2: degree like they got. They trade away Mark Leeder Junior 1066 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 2: to the Yankees. Like it's not like they moved like 1067 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 2: Justice Steele or anybody. But like, this is not a 1068 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 2: team that's likely to win the World Series. So yeah, 1069 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 2: odd odd trade Brian d la Cruz to Pittsburgh. They 1070 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 2: needed power and he'll bring that. I'm not sure how 1071 00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 2: much else he's bringing. Do you have any interest in 1072 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 2: him in Pittsburgh? And for fantasy, not necessarily. 1073 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 3: You know, I have talked all season long, throughout the 1074 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 3: show about how I've needed power. He's another guy leaving Miami. 1075 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 3: Maybe we'll maybe we'll see, But I think he's just 1076 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 3: kind of in the Crimulan category for me personally. 1077 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 2: Crime Josh Bell, who was you d fade or place 1078 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 2: some waivers and now is in Arizona had actually been 1079 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 2: hot before that happened. He's somebody that I might have. 1080 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 2: I mean, if I if I'm really in a position 1081 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 2: of need, I might be interested in Belle. Just given 1082 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 2: that he was swinging the bat, well, what do you 1083 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 2: think I. 1084 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 4: Think it would have to be a short term only 1085 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 4: pick up? 1086 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not thinking he's going to be like 1087 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: the long term fix. 1088 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,439 Speaker 3: But yeah, I remember, even when he had that breakout year, 1089 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,399 Speaker 3: I just refuse to admit or believe that Josh Bell 1090 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,720 Speaker 3: was good. And you know, I'm not taking a victory 1091 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 3: lap on his career, but but everyone thought that that 1092 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 3: big monster home run season, that like, oh, Josh Bell 1093 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 3: is the next big thing, And I was like, this 1094 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 3: guy is not good and great that he's been like fine, 1095 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 3: he's not been like terrible, But you know, he didn't 1096 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 3: turn into like that for year home run hitter that 1097 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 3: people were projecting after that breakout twenty nineteen season. 1098 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 2: Speaking of big, powerful home run hitters, Jorge Shilaire is 1099 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 2: on the move to Atlanta. I was in I was 1100 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 2: at the game when he had his four hundred and 1101 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 2: seventy foot blasted course field recently. It's, you know, majestic, 1102 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 2: big home run. He obviously has a ton of power. 1103 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 2: The Braves have dealt with injuries a lot this year. 1104 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 2: Do you think he slots into the lineup in a 1105 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 2: significant spot. I mean, we've already seen a couple of days. 1106 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 3: Obviously, I think they need him to slide in to 1107 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 3: significant spot. 1108 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 4: They need, you know, warm bodies in that lineup. 1109 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 3: I mean, you know what, Hojorge Hilaire is at this 1110 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,320 Speaker 3: point in his career, right, He's going to give you power, hopefully. 1111 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 3: I drafted him in a couple places and I didn't 1112 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 3: get that power early in the season, So maybe I 1113 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 3: don't know what or hazes hilarious. But according to Rosster Resource, 1114 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 3: they have him hitting leadoff for the Braves. 1115 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: He was he hit leadoff. 1116 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 2: In that game for San Francisco that I was at. 1117 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,240 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think of or Hayes Hilire 1118 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 2: as much of a leadoff hitter, but he's been doing it. 1119 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 4: No. 1120 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 2: And then lastly, Lane Thomas to Cleveland. You know, he 1121 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 2: was one of my favorite guys this year because I 1122 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 2: didn't feel like the like I felt like he was 1123 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 2: good enough last year that he should have cost more 1124 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 2: in drafts this year than he did. And then that 1125 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 2: has kind of been proven. You know, I was in 1126 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 2: the wrong for the most part. I mean there's injury 1127 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 2: stuff obviously, obviously, you know you can get so bases 1128 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 2: with him. It feels like a good fit with Cleveland, 1129 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 2: like that feels like a good spot. 1130 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: For him to be. What do you make of Lane 1131 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 1: Thomas with the Guardians, I've always. 1132 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 3: Kind of just like been able to to have not 1133 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 3: been able to figure out Lane Thomas. 1134 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 4: And I. But I do like the fit. 1135 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,359 Speaker 3: Like you said with Cleveland, I think, you know, if 1136 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,760 Speaker 3: anyone's going to unlock the most out of a player, 1137 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 3: at least, you know, a hitter, given what they've done. 1138 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 3: Because I think a lot of people look at the 1139 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 3: Guardians roster going into the season and we're like, oh, 1140 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,839 Speaker 3: they're not very good, and they've just been really really 1141 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 3: good all year, and so if they can get someone, 1142 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,919 Speaker 3: I mean, he had a really good year last year, 1143 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 3: not as much power this year, but he's running. 1144 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:25,439 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1145 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't hate moving from the Nationals to 1146 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:29,760 Speaker 3: the Guardians in that sense. 1147 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: We have a list of players that were not traded. 1148 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 2: It includes Threek, Scooball, Garrett Crochet, Kyle Finnegan, Tyler Anderson, 1149 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 2: Yandy Diaz, Jamison, ty Own, Luis Renhiefo, Blake Snell, Brent Rooker, 1150 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 2: Luis Robert, Miguel Andrew Harr and Cal Quantrell. Of those names, 1151 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 2: obviously the big two are schoo Ball and Crochet. So 1152 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 2: again I'll just kind of say, besides them, was there 1153 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 2: one that kind of like stuck out to you for 1154 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 2: not being treated, not even necessarily, like as the best 1155 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 2: player that wasn't traded. Maybe the most surprising is there 1156 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,840 Speaker 2: just anybody that kind of stands out as that's interesting 1157 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 2: that they're on there this list. 1158 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 3: The one for me is Tyler Anderson, just because he's 1159 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 3: been steadily good all year and the Angels just have 1160 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 3: no need for him, and they didn't. They already sold 1161 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 3: Carlos Estevez. You know, they need to reset and you know, 1162 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 3: overhaul that that roster. They're they're they're ever going to 1163 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 3: do anything while Mike Trott is alive on this planet. 1164 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 3: They need to do something with that roster, and he 1165 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 3: just seems like someone they'd be able to get a 1166 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 3: decent hall for based on what pitching was going for 1167 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 3: and how consistent he's been all year, and they didn't 1168 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 3: move him, or Luis Renifo, who I also thought should 1169 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 3: have been moved by then, but I guess there's more 1170 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 3: of a case for keeping Renifo around. I know a 1171 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 3: few teams were interested in him, but Tyler Anderson kind 1172 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 3: of stood out to me as someone that seems like 1173 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 3: such an obvious trade candidate that I was very surprised 1174 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 3: to see that he didn't go anywhere with all the 1175 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 3: teams that need pitching and with what pitching was going for, 1176 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 3: that the Angels didn't make an obvious move for a 1177 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 3: really old veteran I say really old. 1178 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 4: He's younger than me, but a really old veteran pitcher. 1179 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 1: With what relievers are going for. 1180 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,280 Speaker 2: I had a similar thought about Finnigan, just being surprised 1181 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 2: that they didn't move him for whatever they could get. 1182 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 2: I'd be really interested to see Brent Rooker in a 1183 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 2: better ballpark in lineup than he has in Oakland, so 1184 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 2: I was I didn't. He's been good enough that I 1185 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 2: could see, Like, I'm not surprised the A's maybe wanted 1186 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 2: to hold on to him, but I would have been 1187 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 2: really interested, excuse me to see him somewhere else. He's 1188 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,760 Speaker 2: been so good in the last month and really all season. 1189 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 2: I think that would have been an interesting one. Lake Snell, 1190 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 2: I think teams were kind of hoping would be available 1191 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 2: and then it wasn't. Obviously Scoo Ball was like not 1192 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 2: going to be easy crochet, particularly with the comments he 1193 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 2: made and the week leading up to the deadline. Again, 1194 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 2: was gonna be kind of tricky to land on a 1195 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 2: good deal for that one. So I'm not super surprised 1196 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,479 Speaker 2: about this, but yep, those are the guys that weren't 1197 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 2: traded overall. 1198 00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on the trade deadline? Just kind 1199 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 1: of macro level view. 1200 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked a little bit already about how 1201 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 2: a lot of names move, maybe not a lot of 1202 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 2: big names, Like. 1203 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,240 Speaker 1: How would you grade this? As a fan? The trade deadline? 1204 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,800 Speaker 4: It was just a really strange deadline. 1205 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 3: There was a ton of activity, which I always like, 1206 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 3: I hate when there's a really hyped deadline and then 1207 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 3: not a lot happens. That's always really you know, takes 1208 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 3: the wind own of my sales. It's really disappointing. And 1209 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 3: then from a fantasy perspective, it felt like despite the 1210 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 3: volume of moves, there wasn't a ton of you know, 1211 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 3: and maybe we'll see some of the fallout like in 1212 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 3: the coming weeks. One player we didn't mention who I 1213 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 3: think could see some fantasy relevant here is Miguel Vargas 1214 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 3: going to the White Sox, because I'm I'm high on 1215 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 3: Miguel Vargas and I always think the Dodgers are kind 1216 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 3: of quietly bad with developing their prospects in some ways. 1217 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 3: And it just seems like players like mcgalve Vargus don't 1218 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,320 Speaker 3: get like the opportunity they deserve. 1219 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 4: They just get. 1220 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 3: They just come up, they get inconsistent playing time, and 1221 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,720 Speaker 3: the Dodgers like, Wow, this guy's not amazing. 1222 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 4: What the heck? I'm like, well, he doesn't play every day, Like, 1223 00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:59,720 Speaker 4: give him a shot. 1224 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 3: So Miguel Vargas is someone I can see potentially, you know, 1225 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 3: getting an everyday job at the White Sox and running 1226 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 3: with it. So I'm excited to see that. In deeper leagues, 1227 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 3: he's someone I'm definitely picking up. I thought it was 1228 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 3: interesting that Tommy Edmund, who I could not have been 1229 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 3: more wrong about this year in terms of how long 1230 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 3: it would take him to come back from his injury, because 1231 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 3: I drafted him really late in a lot of drafts, 1232 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 3: thinking oh, maybe he'll miss the first two or three 1233 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 3: weeks at a season, and then I'll have Tommy had 1234 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 3: been basically for free on my roster, And here we 1235 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 3: are in August and time we haven't yet to see 1236 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 3: Tommy Edmund, and now he's on the Dodgers, where, even 1237 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 3: if he plays well, he'll probably play every other day 1238 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 3: at the. 1239 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:41,280 Speaker 2: Most, let's wrap things up with our two start pitcher competition. 1240 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 2: As always, I don't think you're gonna argue with me, 1241 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 2: but I thought I was the clear winner of the 1242 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 2: most recently completed matchup. It was you had cool ragons ragans. 1243 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 2: I always go back and forth on how I say it. 1244 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,919 Speaker 2: I would whenever I go back and listen to the show, 1245 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,839 Speaker 2: I'm like I even in the same conversation, I say 1246 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 2: it two different ways. 1247 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 1: But the Royals ace. 1248 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 2: He went one and one eleven and two thirds innings, 1249 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 2: pitched fourteen hits, seven earned runs, one home run, three walks, 1250 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,399 Speaker 2: twelve strikeouts, and by my league's scoring, fifteen point four 1251 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,319 Speaker 2: fantasy points. My pick I was not able to use 1252 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,400 Speaker 2: Zach Wheeler because he did not make two starts, so 1253 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 2: I had to go to my backup. But who pitched 1254 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 2: pretty well, Bryce Miller. He went one to know thirteen 1255 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,439 Speaker 2: in the third innings, pitch ten hits, allowed three earned runs, 1256 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,240 Speaker 2: one home run, no walks, eleven strikeouts, thirty one point 1257 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 2: two fantasy points in my league scoring. The only category 1258 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 2: in which your pick was better strikeouts, and he had 1259 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 2: one more strikeout, So I think Bryce Miller was the 1260 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 2: clear winner here. 1261 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 4: It was a big win. It was a big strikeout 1262 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 4: if I remember. 1263 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,239 Speaker 2: That one, that one strikeout. So I'm currently at ten 1264 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 2: and six in this competition. 1265 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 4: That's a tough pill at Well, we have not. 1266 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,840 Speaker 2: Totally landed on what we're Are we going to have 1267 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 2: me kind of just submit picks that you announced? Are 1268 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,880 Speaker 2: we going to have the fill in pick for me 1269 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,920 Speaker 2: for two full months? How are we doing this? 1270 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 4: I think it's up to you. It's whatever you want 1271 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 4: to do. 1272 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 3: Do you trust Kelly and or guest to pick for 1273 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 3: you or do you want to submit picks. 1274 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 4: You'll still have access to the sheet you can put 1275 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 4: you can put your pick in there. 1276 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:16,640 Speaker 1: I do trust them. 1277 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm going to say that I'm 1278 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 2: handing off this big lead and I'm trusting them to 1279 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 2: big lead. Ted, Ted, I mean, I'm nearly doubling you up. 1280 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 2: So we're still waiting to see what the results of 1281 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 2: the last current week are. That's Paul Skeins versus Zach Wheeler. 1282 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 2: But for this week, we made our picks. Here. 1283 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: I went with Louis Castillo. 1284 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 2: He is home against the Tigers and home against the Mets. 1285 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 2: He's somebody I was actually kind of surprised. Neither of 1286 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 2: us has used yet this season, so he was available 1287 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 2: to both of us, and I decided there was a 1288 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 2: lot of names I wanted that I've already used, so 1289 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 2: that was kind of coming into play a bit, but 1290 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 2: we hadn't used him yet and he's a good picture, 1291 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 2: So I went with Luis Castillo, and who did you take? 1292 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 3: I went with the recently resurfaced Robbie Ray because of 1293 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 3: his matchups and you know, because he kind of came out, 1294 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 3: came out of the gate relatively hot with some strikeout stuff, 1295 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 3: and I like the matchups at Washington and versus Detroit. 1296 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 3: So I'm hoping that Robbie Ray outduels Luis Castillo. Although 1297 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 3: a couple of Detroit stars in there. You're opening up 1298 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 3: the week with Detroit and I'm closing out with Detroit, 1299 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 3: so we'll see. 1300 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know they're gonna have a big, a 1301 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 2: big say in how this last week of the competition 1302 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 2: that I'm involved in ghosts, So we'll see how that 1303 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 2: one wraps up. 1304 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll that'll do it for us. 1305 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wanted to say I really appreciate everybody 1306 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 2: for listening to this show. And you know, may and 1307 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 2: I had talked about doing a fantasy baseball show for 1308 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 2: a while. We frobably had the opportunity this year, and 1309 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 2: we're really excited that you know, people actually listen then 1310 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 2: you know, would reach out to us on Twitter with 1311 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 2: questions and that. 1312 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 1: We're excited about the show. So this is our first year. 1313 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,919 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously it's going to continue, like I said, 1314 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 2: with Mayor and other folks, and it'll be just as good, 1315 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 2: I promise, but this is the first year for the 1316 00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 2: two of us doing it together. So it was super 1317 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 2: fun and I'm really excited to even see what we. 1318 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 1: Do in the off season. And I know the show 1319 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 1: will continue. 1320 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 2: We're hoping to get it on video at some point, 1321 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 2: so that would be a fun development as well. But 1322 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 2: you know, I will definitely maybe I'll pop in before 1323 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 2: the end of the season, but it'll pretty much be 1324 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 2: it for me through September. But then as we get 1325 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 2: into the off season, I will definitely be back. And yeah, 1326 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,200 Speaker 2: it's been really fun, and you know, yeah, I just 1327 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 2: wanted to say a few words that I you know, appreciate. 1328 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 2: I wouldn't get to do this if we didn't have listeners, right, 1329 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 2: and so it's really fun that people actually listen and care. 1330 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 2: But we have to think even though you know, sometimes 1331 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 2: it's easy to think that what we have to say 1332 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 2: is kind of worthless when we get stuff wrong and 1333 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 2: make bad picks and stuff. But I know it's super 1334 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,400 Speaker 2: fun and I love having this conversation every week. So 1335 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 2: I really that people actually want to tune into it. 1336 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1337 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And like like you said, we're going to keep 1338 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 3: it going. I'm pretty confident we're going to get it 1339 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 3: on YouTube on video next year. Yeah, and it was 1340 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 3: it's really been a lot of fun, and like you said, 1341 00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 3: it was, it was really I don't want to say 1342 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 3: surprising because I was confident, but it was fun to 1343 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 3: launch a show and see it immediately have loyal listeners 1344 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 3: and people who tuned in every week, and it's been 1345 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 3: one of the best performing shows on our podcast feed. 1346 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 3: So really thankful for all of you for you know, 1347 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,280 Speaker 3: tuning in and listening and downloading giving you know, it's 1348 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 3: just like getting clicks on articles, we're getting downloads on 1349 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 3: this But no show next week, but I will be back. 1350 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 3: I'll be jumping over to the host chair, which I 1351 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 3: know everybody loves. Such a great natural host good so 1352 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 3: much better than worm and so I know everyone really 1353 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 3: enjoys my talent there, and so we'll all enjoy that together. 1354 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've the show will still be good. 1355 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 2: I will still count myself among the listeners even when 1356 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 2: I am not hosting. But again, I mean, this sounds 1357 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:43,920 Speaker 2: like more of a long term goodbye than it is. 1358 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 2: It's just a couple months that I will not be 1359 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 2: on the show. Then I will be back here before 1360 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,640 Speaker 2: the end of twenty twenty four. But yeah, it's been 1361 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 2: super fun. Again, We're both really appreciative everybody. No show 1362 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,240 Speaker 2: next week, but don't you know, unsubscribe or anything. We 1363 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 2: are still going to be back in two weeks with 1364 01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 2: Mayer and Kelly Slash TVD, so that'll be really fun 1365 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 2: as well. So thank everybody for listening all season long, 1366 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 2: and also to this episode for Mayor. 1367 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Warmley and we'll see you again next time. 1368 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Baseball podcast. 1369 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 1: Follow us on x, Instagram. 1370 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 2: And TikTok at Fantasy Pros, and subscribe to our YouTube. 1371 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: Channel at YouTube dot com. Slash Fantasy Pros MLB