1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: An hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight hundred and ninety 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: four one, Shawn our number if you want to be 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: a part of the program. But we've gone over what 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: was a just complete, utter, unmitigated shock in the trial, 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: the sham trial of Donald Trump yesterday. The biggest problem 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: that the defense faces at this point is not that 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: they've proven a thing. They've proven nothing, absolutely nothing. They've 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: not even identified the law. But to watch Judge Murshawn 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: go at what is a legal expert, Bradley Smith who 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: understands the heart of the law that is supposedly that 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: the novel legal theory that the prosecution is putting on 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: in this case and limit the ability of Judge Mershawn 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: to inform the jury that this is not a crime 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: is pretty unbelievable. Bradley Smith was on my TV show 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: specifically talking about this very issue. Former FEC chair, there's 16 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: no violation at all in the NBA agreement that although 17 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: Trump is involved in that Michael Clone told everybody and 18 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: their mother based on his own testimony yesterday and the 19 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: testimony of Bob Costello before Congress, I mean not that 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: they let him talk either. Here's Bradley Smith, former FBC 21 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: chair on my TV show. 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: The claim made by the DA is the federal law 23 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: says something is a campaign contribution if it's made with 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: the for the purpose of influencing a campaign. 25 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: And that's the argument. 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: Well, they were trying to do this because they thought 27 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: if they could pay hush money to Stormy Daniels, that 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 2: would help Trump's campaign. 29 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: So that's the theory. 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: Most of us would not think that it is a 31 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: campaign expenditure to try to settle potential legal claims against 32 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: you or other claims against you for events that occurred 33 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: ten years before you talked about running for office, you know, 34 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: to pay allegedly to pay hush money to Stormy Daniels 35 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: or anybody else. And the odd theory of of the 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: DA Bragg is that not only could those expenses be 37 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: paid with campaign funds, they would have to be paid 38 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: with campaign funds. I think again, it's a common senseman, 39 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: that's clearly wrong. But also when you look at the 40 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: statute and you realize that's an objective standard, it's clearly 41 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: not correct to say that these were funds that count 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: as a campaign expenditure. 43 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: Pretty just unbelievable. Of course, the judges does not want 44 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: the jury to hear any of this, and they fall. 45 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: The prosecutions fighting and the judge is granting every motion. 46 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,559 Speaker 1: That's what resulted in Bob Costello, whose credentials are impeccable, 47 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: to roll his eyes and be like, you're kidding me, 48 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: because he understands the law, and he understands an abusively 49 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: biased judge, as we all know, the Biden donor judge 50 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: with a parent family conflicts, who should have recused himself 51 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: from the get go, you know, even the mob the media, 52 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: by the way. And then we have the issue of 53 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: Michael Cohene. What do we have August twenty eighteen, pleads 54 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: guilty campaign finance violation, bank fraud, five counts of tax evasion. 55 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, also pleading guilty to lying to the 56 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: US Senate Intelligence Committee, the House Intelligence Committee about the 57 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: Trump Moscow Tower Moscow deal that never existed, you know, 58 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: and of course then admitting that he's a thief on 59 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: top of everything else, stealing sixty thousand dollars from the 60 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: Trump organization. Even the mob in the media didn't exactly 61 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: think that him stealing from President Trump went over particularly 62 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: well for the prosecution. 63 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still kind of reeling from the revelation that 64 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 4: Michael Cohen stole money from the Trump organization, and that wasn't, 65 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 4: at least to my knowledge, that the prosecution didn't get 66 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 4: that out earlier. 67 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 5: The prosecution is painted Michael Cohen as sort of this bumbling, 68 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 5: pathetic character whose only sins were his misguided, undying loyalty 69 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 5: to Donald Trump. But now you see something a little different. 70 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 5: Now there's an argument to me that actually, you're just 71 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 5: an opportunistic thief. 72 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 6: The fact that he was never charged with larcening is 73 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 6: important because stealing sixty thousand dollars through fraud, which would 74 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 6: be larceny in New York State, is more serious of 75 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 6: a crime than falsifying business. 76 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: They knew about this, they minimized it. The prosecutor misled 77 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 3: this jury. 78 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 7: That's what I would are. 79 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 4: Are you allowed to say that, yes, sir? 80 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 8: Oh? 81 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the prosecutor, we learned also from Bob Costello, 82 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: was specifically told about exculpatory evidence before he brought this 83 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: case before the grand jury and purposely withheld that exculpatory evidence, which, 84 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: by the way, he is required to present to them 85 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: as a matter of law. You don't believe me, then 86 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: you've got to believe my next guest, which is Judge 87 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: Janim Piro. By the way, her new book, I mean 88 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: it is literally ripped out of today's headlines, Crimes against America. 89 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: It's on Hannity dot com, Amazon dot com, bookstores around 90 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: the country tree Uh, and you know, best selling author 91 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: that she is. But it goes to the heart of 92 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: all of this. It's a must read if you want 93 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: to preserve you know, law and order and our great 94 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 1: constitutional republic, which I would argue is now currently in jeopardy. Uh, Judge, 95 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: I was gonna call you and because we're good friends, 96 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: make a little bit of fun of you. Yesterday I 97 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: was watching the hit show The Five that you're a 98 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: part of, and okay, okay, hold on. It was it 99 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: was what was it, Barbie Day? It was like all 100 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: pink day? 101 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, crack me. You even had pink shoes on. 102 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 9: You know, yes when when you said yester and then 103 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 9: I thought, yeah, that's what I writ pink shoes, pink clothes. 104 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 9: Can I tell you after this year, I'm never wearing 105 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 9: pink again. Why short, Sean? And I tell you everything 106 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 9: is pink for women. I'm so over this Barbie thing 107 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 9: and it's not an ode to Barbie. I could care 108 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 9: less what it is. Although you know, the thing behind 109 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 9: the Barbie doll is that Barbie was supposed to be 110 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 9: a professional woman at a time when all dollars are 111 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 9: to be mothers. And you know, it doesn't matter to 112 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 9: me one way or another. 113 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: I was both. 114 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 9: I mean, come on, kids, and I had a career 115 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 9: and I ran her office and all that other stuff. 116 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 9: But I'm so over pink right now. 117 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: Well I don't. I just all I could think about. 118 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Barbie Rune pink for everybody else in the movie, 119 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: which I cannot as a guy. You know, hang on 120 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: to my man card if I go to a Barbie 121 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: movie or call it up and rent it and watch it. 122 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine that day. 123 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: But you know, I love you, and you're the best, 124 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: and you are impeccably dressed all the time and just 125 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: a class act all the way around. It's you know, 126 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: I said that your book Crimes against America ripped right 127 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: out of the headlines. I'm not wrong, it is. I 128 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: know you've been on both sides of this, both as 129 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: a judge and prosecutor. I've been listening to your commentary 130 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: you've been dead on accurate. 131 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 9: Well, the truth is that I've been one Mershawn the judge, 132 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 9: and I've been Alvin Bragg the DA And I got 133 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 9: to tell you, the book Crimes against America speaks to 134 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 9: the attack on our institutions, everything from education to government, 135 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 9: to the Department of Justice, to the Constitution, free speech, 136 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 9: the Second Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, and all that. But 137 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 9: this case in particular is a study in how the 138 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 9: left progressives can make a decision that they are going 139 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 9: to take a president, former president, and future president as 140 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 9: far as I'm concerned, and try to destroy him in 141 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 9: a kangaroo court. And it is offensive to me. You know. 142 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 9: People can report on this stuff, but I lived this 143 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 9: for thirty two years, Sean. And when a witness comes in, 144 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 9: Robert Costello, who is about as credible as I've ever seen, 145 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 9: and tries to at least put truth to the lie 146 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 9: of Michael Cohen about an essential element of the case, 147 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 9: and that is whether or not Donald Trump did anything 148 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 9: wrong at a time when Michael Cohen had anything everything 149 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 9: to lose. The truth is that there was nothing, and 150 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 9: the judge would not allow it. Every time Costello spoke 151 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 9: before he was even finished, the prosecution would object to 152 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 9: the defense witness and it would be sustained by the judge. 153 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 9: So today, when Robert Costello is cross examined by the prosecution, 154 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 9: this defense witness for a President Trump, what happens is 155 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 9: any objection is overruled. I mean, the contrast is stunning. 156 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 9: On the one hand, you've got it started from the 157 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 9: get go. You got that. 158 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: How do you interpret that? What do you think happened? 159 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 9: He's tipping the scales of justice. He doesn't want this 160 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 9: jury to reconcile with the fact that possibly Donald Trump 161 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 9: did nothing wrong. And how dare witness be brought in 162 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 9: to say that the lynch pin of the case, Michael Cohen, 163 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 9: actually has told people at his most vulnerable period in 164 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 9: his life that Michael Cohen did nothing wrong. But it's 165 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 9: the same thing that the judge did with Michael Cohen 166 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 9: and Donald Trump. Donald Trump, your gag, Michael Cohen, You're 167 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 9: not shorm me Daniels. You could talk about whatever you want, 168 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 9: but Robert Castello cannot. 169 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: You talk about salacious material and talk to dead people 170 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 1: that's relevant. Even though it's not relevant, it's immateial and 171 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: absolutely should have been stopped in its tracks, and it 172 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: wasn't and. 173 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 9: Again, and then you're going to allow Michael Cohen and 174 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 9: David Pecker to talk about campaign finance violations and you're 175 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 9: not going to allow Brad Smith, who can testify about 176 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 9: what a real campaign violation is. I mean, everything that 177 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 9: this judge has done, he's had the scales weighted against 178 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 9: the defendant. And it's offensive to me because this is 179 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 9: our system of justice. We rail all the time about 180 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 9: how we're the best and we're the greatest. This is, 181 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 9: this is this is terrible, Sean, It's terrible. 182 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: He's trying to salvage the case that has been a 183 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: disaster for brag That's what he's trying to do. The 184 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: Biden donor judge who has as family conflicts as well, 185 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: should have recused himself as a matter of law, and 186 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: he's now throwing a lifelin or attempting to throw a 187 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: lifeline to the DA and the prosecution in this case 188 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: to hopefully get the conviction that everybody wanted and thought 189 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: they were going to get coming into this, but it 190 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: fell apart. Everything deteriorated right before their eyes. And at 191 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: this last minute, Hail Mary, and you saw this with 192 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: the anger from the judge yesterday. 193 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: I was he angry. 194 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: At Bob Costello is the consummate pro I mean with 195 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: incredible experience, and he's sitting there in a state of 196 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: shock and he rolls his eyes and he's. 197 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 3: Like, really, are you staring me down? 198 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, threatening to hold this guy in contempt, 199 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: screaming clear the courtroom, the courtroom. 200 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 9: The judge should have been held in Contemptuan. This judge 201 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 9: doesn't know what he's doing. This judge is tipping the scales. 202 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 9: And this judge has another chance, Seawan, it's not over yet. 203 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 9: He's going to charge that jury to essentially convict. First 204 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 9: of all, there's got to be an adverse witness charge. 205 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 9: The fact that the prosecution did not call Weiselberg, who 206 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 9: was in their control in Rikers Island on a material issue. 207 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 9: It should be held against the prosecution. The judge is 208 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 9: entitled or should be telling that jury the fact that 209 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 9: they didn't call him means that he would have testified 210 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 9: against them. They should also get an adverse witness charge 211 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 9: for not calling Keith Schiller. If Keith Schiller was part 212 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 9: of the essential case where Cohen called him and said, hey, 213 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 9: I took care of it. But Keith Schiller says, no, 214 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 9: this is all about a fourteen year old on an 215 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 9: October twenty four to twenty sixteen phone call. Then Keith 216 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 9: Schiller should have been called by the prosecution. There's all 217 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 9: kinds of disasters that this judge can continue to impose 218 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 9: to make this jury find it offended. 219 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: Right quick break more with Judge Janinepiro, also of the 220 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: hit show of the five or new book out Crimes 221 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: against America really ripped out of today's headlines anyway. It's 222 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: on Hannity dot com, Amazon dot com, bookstores around the country. 223 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: As we continue write more with my friend and colleague, 224 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: Judge Janine Piro. Her new book is how Crimes against 225 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: America and very relevant to what's going on in that 226 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: courtroom in New York and around the country and around 227 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 1: the world. Her new book is on Amazon dot com, 228 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: Hannity dot com, and bookstores around the country. There's no 229 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: way the judge is going to dismiss this case. There's 230 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: no way we're going to get a directive verdict. There's 231 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: no way that jury instructions are going to be fair, 232 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: and he's going to try to tip the scales in 233 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: the favor of the DA and the pro prosecution. And 234 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, that makes me very nervous, 235 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: and it only reinforces what I had said from day one. 236 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: Donald Trump can't get a fair trial in New York 237 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: or DC or Fulton County, Georgia. 238 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 3: Case closed. It happened within Goren. 239 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: In the civil case, the guy still maintains mar A 240 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: Lago's eighteen million dollars. I'll buy it tomorrow. I'll pay double, 241 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: and I'll make a will be very, very wealthy. I'll 242 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: become a billionaire, judge. But they were allowed to get 243 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: away with it. 244 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: There. 245 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 9: Listen, this is a judge. 246 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: I'll even let you have two percent if you're willing 247 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: to put in some money. 248 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 9: I good. But look, this judge is not on a 249 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 9: level this judge is he What he does is he 250 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 9: stays that robe for every judge in this country who 251 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 9: tries so hard to balance the rights of the defendant 252 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 9: along with the interests of the people. He is unable 253 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 9: to let the defense conduct a defense. And the truth 254 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 9: is that in the end he's on the line as 255 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 9: much as Alvin Bragg is here. He knows he's got 256 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 9: to get a conviction to save himself, and he will 257 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 9: do it. In the charge to the jury, I'm telling 258 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 9: you he will. 259 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: The question, okay, but will he be successful? Last question? Question? 260 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 9: That's the question. And I'm hoping and praying that there 261 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 9: is someone who's going to say, you know what, nobody 262 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 9: said that Donald Trump told anyone how to write the 263 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 9: check or that he got involved in. 264 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: Just the opposite. 265 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: Michael con admitted that he did it on his own 266 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: and told all these people. He admitted, he told everybody 267 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: he did it on his own. That's called reasonable doubt. 268 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: Judge where I grew up. 269 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's reasonable doubt. But you know what, the judge 270 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 9: wants no one to hear from Michael Cohen, Michael, excuse me, 271 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 9: Robert Costello, because that may give them reasonable doubt. 272 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: It would impeach. It would impeach the argument of the prosecution. 273 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: It would be slammed, dunk case clothes directive, verdict everybody, 274 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen of the jury, thank you for your service. 275 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: Goodbye. 276 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: I got a roll. But listen, congrats Crimes against America. Judge, 277 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: you named Pirohannity dot com, Amazon dot com bookstores around 278 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: the country. Judge, we appreciate it. And listen, you have 279 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: a great holiday. If I don't talk to you, God, 280 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: we'll talk bye Sean. 281 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, all right. 282 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: Is a pretty unbelievable times that we're living in. They 283 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: really are, you know, the idea that the Biden administration 284 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: and that the UN, the UN holds a moment of 285 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: silence for the butcher of Tehran, the formign president of 286 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: Tehran that died in his helicopter crash. US Deputy Ambassador 287 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: to the UN was seen standing during this, which is 288 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: pretty repulsive Biden, of course, the administration, through the State Department, 289 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: they're sending condolences. Does anybody not understand this is the 290 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: president of the number one state sponsor of terrorism. This 291 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: is the guy that helped Plan October seventh with the 292 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: Kud's forces and the Iranian Revolutionary Guards forces. This is 293 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: the guy that provides the weaponry to groups like Hamas 294 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: and has Bolah in the North at Elebanon and the 295 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: Huti Rebels at a Yemen. Yeah, they're the ones that 296 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: foment all the terror around the world. And we're sending 297 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: condolences to Iran, and we have international organizations and bodies, 298 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, giving a moment of silence and all the 299 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: ass kissing of all of these people is It's disgusting 300 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: New York Posts today. Rot in hell. You know, a 301 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: good thing. Iran's president's dead, you know, his blood splattered. 302 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: Colmanius known as the Butcher of Tehran for his role 303 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: as the chief executioner during a massive nineteen eighty eight purge. 304 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: A key protege and current coppo of Ali Kamani and 305 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: most likely successor, he was committed to the art of 306 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: evil ideology and to violent repression so necessary to maintain 307 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: its grip on Iran, as in the twenty twenty two 308 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: nationwide crackdown against Iranian protesting at the religious police. Murderer 309 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: of this woman but daring to remove her job. I mean, 310 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: this is the guy. We're sending condolences to this really? 311 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 3: You know? 312 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: Then of course you have the ICC, you know, putting 313 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: out an indictment against the Prime Minister of Israel. 314 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: What part of Israel being a. 315 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: Victim of radical Islamic terror is the world not quite 316 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: understanding here? The twelve hundred dead Israelis on October the seventh, 317 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: they were victims that day, the hundreds that were taking 318 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: hostage and out of their country, including Americans. And we're 319 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: not supporting Israel's right to win their war against radical 320 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: Islamic terrorism. You know, I was on Fox and Friends 321 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: talking about this today and I just kept saying, it's unbelievable. 322 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: We have a president of the United States that has 323 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: been doing nothing beyond the quid pro quo, the very 324 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: thing they impeached Donald Trump over and telling Israel you're 325 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: not getting weapons if you fight offensively and try to 326 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: defeat the terrorists that attacked you on October the seventh, 327 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: when the message should be clear and unambiguous and the 328 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: moral clarity should be certain, which is you have a 329 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: right to win your war against radical Islamic terrorists. 330 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 3: Period. 331 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: How would we feel after nine to eleven if the 332 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: world started lecturing us on how to fight back against 333 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: those people that killed twenty nine hundred and seventy seven 334 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: Americans and many more from nine to eleven related illnesses 335 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: was supposed to be lectured, Oh, George W. Bush, which 336 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: was supposed to be indicted by the ICC, and while 337 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden quote condemns it on paper, Well, he sat 338 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: through a speech at Morehouse College while of a student, 339 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, and that was demming Israel and quote occupation 340 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: in demanding a ceasefire now, and he started clapping. I 341 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: never thought we'd have a day with the president of 342 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: our country is literally literally surrendering in the war on 343 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: terror and thus emboldening radical Islamic terrorists and terror states 344 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: around the world, and simultaneously sending a message to the 345 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: free world that America is abdicating its role as the 346 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: leading country for the cause of liberty and freedom and democracy. 347 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: It really is. 348 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: These are sad times that we are living in. It's 349 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: really unbelievable. But Joe Biden, by the way, announced that 350 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: one of the hostages still held by Hamas was actually 351 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: a White House guest. This is how cognitively deficient your 352 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: president is. 353 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 8: Listen, mynusration working around the clock to free their main hostages, 354 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 8: just as we have freed hostag and here of this 355 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 8: today is hersh Golbert Poland and is still he is 356 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 8: not here with this, but he's still being held by 357 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 8: a moss and Rachel and John are here with his 358 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 8: stand up guy. 359 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: By the way, Prime Minister Netan Yahoo was on Good 360 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: Morning America and on Fox and Friends this morning, and 361 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: here's what he had to say about this ICC prosecutor 362 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: pouring gasoline on the fires of anti Semitism, and he's 363 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: one hundred percent right. 364 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 7: Listen, Yeah, and he's making a totally false accusation here 365 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 7: and everywhere else. We are supplying now nearly half of 366 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 7: the water of Gaza. We supplied only seven percent before 367 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 7: the war. So this is completely opposite of what he's saying. 368 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 7: He's saying that we're starving people. You know, we have 369 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 7: supplied half a million tons of food and medicine with 370 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 7: twenty thousand trucks. This guy is out to demonize Israel. 371 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 7: He's doing a hit job. He's creating a false symmetry 372 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 7: between the democratically elected leaders of Israel and the terror chieftains. 373 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 7: That's like saying in After ninety eleven, well I'm issuing 374 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 7: the rest warrants for George Bush, but also for bidd 375 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 7: Laden or after in World War two, Well I'm issuing 376 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 7: rest warrants for FDR, but also for Hitler. It's a 377 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 7: hit job, it's not serious. He's out to defame a 378 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 7: Israel and he's also pouring gasoline on the fires of 379 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 7: anti Semitism that are spreading around the world. 380 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: I totally completely agree. And what we've been watching at 381 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: our most prestigious universities around the country, calls for Antifada, 382 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: death to Israel, death to America, outright support for hamas 383 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: taking over school buildings, encampments all over these college campuses, 384 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: which is unfathomable to me, and we've heard very little 385 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: from faculty. We've seen a lot of support for the 386 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: for the you know, anti Israel protests that have been 387 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: going on, but not in the case of one one 388 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: person that is at the University of Michigan. And anyway, 389 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: this happened a few days ago. The encampment at the 390 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: University of Michigan finally was removed by police. If you remember, 391 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: they had their graduation a couple of weeks ago and 392 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: added the Big House, which you know was well known 393 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: form massive crowds and anyway, then of course that got 394 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: disrupted by anti Israel protesters. But anyway, I will tell 395 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: you the story the these pro Palestinian protesters you know 396 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: place you know, fake bloody corpses at the home of 397 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: a University of Michigan official and anyway, a large group 398 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: of protesters that make their way onto this university officials 399 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: home property wearing masks and coverings. Then they tape a 400 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: list of demands to adore immediately. They pitched tents and 401 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: place bloody corpses, corpses in red stained sheets on her 402 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: lawn and chanting, you know, Regent Hubbard, you can hide 403 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: your fueling genocide broke out now this home sixty miles 404 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: away from the Anna Arbor campus. The protests led by 405 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: the members of what's called the Rear Coalition, a student 406 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: led alliance of more than eighty organizations. I got to 407 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: give a lot of credit. Finally in a high ranking 408 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: official at a university has decided to stand up to 409 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: them because she pointed out in a post on x 410 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: that protesters want me to cut all ties with Israel's 411 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: higher ed institutions, let politics drive investment of our endowment funds, 412 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: give unaccountable community activist control over the university's budget, and 413 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: defund the campus police. 414 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: I say no, no, no, and hell no. Anyway, Sarah 415 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 3: Hubbard is with us. How are you. 416 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 10: I'm doing great, Thanks Sean, Thanks for having me. 417 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: Well your a rarity. 418 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not exactly been happening at college campuses 419 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: around the country very often. 420 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 3: Good for you. 421 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 10: Now, we've had enough at the University of Michigan. We've 422 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 10: moved out the encampment. You know, they started bringing in 423 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 10: ply and chicken wire to reinforce their they're set up 424 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 10: on our campus. They visited my home last week and 425 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 10: you know, upset my neighbors, upset the children in my neighborhood. 426 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 10: At thirty protesters marching in a circle around my driveway 427 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 10: out onto the road, banging a drum, using bullhorns as 428 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 10: you mentioned, setting up tents in my lawn, really creating 429 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 10: huge rockets. And then when. 430 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 3: They where the hell are the voice? 431 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 10: Well, the police did come and then they said, okay, 432 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 10: leave or get arrested, and then they left. They left immediately, 433 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 10: So the police did come, but you know, they just 434 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 10: they came in it just before six o'clock in the morning. 435 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 10: Some of my colleagues they came in earlier than that. 436 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 10: And they're lucky, you know, coming to the door of 437 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 10: somebody's home in the middle of the night, basically in 438 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 10: some cases when it was still dark out. It's really 439 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 10: not a good idea. They could have met a very 440 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 10: different result if I hadn't recognized that those are the 441 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 10: very same tents that were set up on campus and 442 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 10: then moved to my front yard. So I you know, 443 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 10: let's them do their thing for a bit, and then 444 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 10: they left. We cleaned up, we threw all that stuff out. 445 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 10: But you know, they really crossed the line there. It's 446 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 10: really too much. And then you know, fortifying their encampment 447 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 10: and acting like they were gonna, you know, camp out 448 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 10: on our campus for the rest of the summer was 449 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 10: too much. The University of Michigan is not a campground. 450 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 10: We are not equipped for this. We are not going 451 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 10: to continue with this kind of thing. And as you mentioned, 452 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 10: they upset our commencement, they interfered with that. I was 453 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 10: at our honors convocation, the only regent at our honors 454 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 10: convocation where they interfered with that. We had to end 455 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 10: it early because they were overwhelming the crowd. This is 456 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 10: just this is just too much. Our governor even said today, 457 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 10: you know, she doesn't think these people should be going 458 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 10: to people's homes. I mean, that's a place where we agree. 459 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: Ud. 460 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: What about of confidence, because her silence for the most 461 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: part has been pretty deafening during most of this. 462 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I think now that we're taking action on this, 463 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 10: this is this is going to provide a lot of 464 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 10: people more opportunity to speak out and really join us 465 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 10: in pushing back on these protesters. 466 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 9: You know, let me let me. 467 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 3: Ask you this, This is an important question. 468 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: Do you have the full support of the administration at 469 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: your school. 470 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 10: We do, we do, And it took the administration to 471 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 10: move forward and do this today, move the encampment out. 472 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 3: We have been well, well, why did they wait so long? 473 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: Why did they allow a single day to go by 474 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: without saying no, it's against campus policy, you're not allowed 475 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: to Well, it's a great question. 476 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 10: I think we're airing on the side of free speech 477 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 10: and saying okay, students. We have a rich history of 478 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 10: protests on our campus. We're known for that at the 479 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 10: University of Michigan. Students have a voice. They were talking 480 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 10: about things, you know, they were letting their voice be heard. 481 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 10: And you know, we did air on the side of 482 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 10: free speech, no question and allowing them to protest. But 483 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 10: they just went too far. They really did just go 484 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 10: too far. But there are certainly lots of people on 485 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 10: our campus, lots of people in the faculty that support 486 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 10: the students, lots of people in some of our faculty 487 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 10: or well, you know, teaching unions, not full faculty, but 488 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 10: teaching unions that support this group that's protesting, and so 489 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 10: there certainly is a layer of those folks at the 490 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 10: university that feel very strongly about their right to protest. 491 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 10: But when you're showing up at my house and you're 492 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 10: doing things like this that are silencing others on campus 493 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 10: and that create fear for Jewish students on our campus 494 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 10: in particular, that's too much. We had to deal with it. 495 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 10: We let it go a little longer than some, but 496 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 10: we've dealt with it, and now we're moving on. 497 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: All right, quick break more with Sarah Hubbard Is, the 498 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: chair of the Border Regents University of Michigan literally was 499 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: the target of intimidations that thread our own home by 500 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: the way, an hour out of campus. We'll continue with her, 501 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: and we'll get to your calls and Matt Gates on 502 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: the other side as we continue. 503 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 11: Up next our final round up and information overlaw to hourright. 504 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: We continue now with the chair of the Border Regents 505 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: University of Michigan. She herself was targeted by these radical 506 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: protesters and they tried to threaten and intimidate her. 507 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 3: And go to her home. 508 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's unbelievable what's going on around the country 509 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: and around the world. What are you going to do 510 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: now the next time, because I assume that we've not 511 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: heard the end of this. Is it going to be 512 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: dealt with immediately moving forward, or is this something they'll 513 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: allow to go on for a certain period of time 514 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: and then realize they got to act. And you know 515 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 1: the fact that you have such repulsive anti semitism on 516 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: college campuses all around the country, what do you make 517 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: of that? Because to me, it's pretty scary, very reminiscent 518 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: of the nineteen thirties. 519 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 10: To me, oh, it's really scary. And we hear from 520 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 10: Jewish stakeholders all the time. We are bracing for whatever 521 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 10: the next time is. We want to be sure that 522 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 10: they can't just come back and set up this encampment 523 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 10: somewhere out on campus, and we're keeping an eye out 524 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 10: for that. We're making sure that our partners and stakeholders 525 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 10: around campus that might also be at risk are aware 526 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 10: of what's going on and hopefully they feel safe as well. 527 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 10: And we're concerned about what this group is going to 528 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 10: try to do when we come back to school in 529 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 10: the fall, and so we're certainly making plans to be 530 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 10: sure that this kind of thing can't happen again, we 531 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 10: are holding accountable a number of these students that have 532 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 10: been active in these protests. The washnaw County prosecutor filed 533 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 10: charges against four students earlier this week, last week, and 534 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 10: then we've all also started a process against a number 535 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 10: of others that have been disruptive on campus. 536 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: And we're let me ask you last question. 537 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: You ever think the United States of America ever would 538 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: surrender in the war on terror? Do you agree with 539 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: my characterization? 540 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 11: Yeah? 541 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 10: I never, I mean, and I hope we're not surrendering 542 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 10: to the war on tire. 543 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 3: No, Joe Biden did, I didn't understood. 544 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 10: Well, we are. We are moving forward at the university. 545 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 10: We've had enough and you know. 546 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: We just well good for you, don't. 547 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to drag into a political fight that's 548 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: going to get in trouble because I admire your courage. 549 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: I know you're the chair of the Border Regions and 550 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to see how any ramifications from even 551 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: coming on this show. But believe me, I have a 552 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: pretty loud voice, and if there are, give me a 553 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: call because I would love to take them on. 554 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 10: Okay, thank you, yeah, thank you, appreciate your help. 555 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: I admire your courage, Sarah Hubbard, thank you. Eight hundred 556 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: nine four one Shawn is our number if you want 557 00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: to be a part of the program.