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Speaker 2: Has he been able to.

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Speaker 3: Get more I think it's a little work on the

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Speaker 3: of the season. Obviously, Third Wednesday's trench usually off and

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Speaker 4: We're working Spencer Burford at tackle as well.

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Speaker 1: First, when you look at New England's front, what does

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Speaker 1: it look like to you? They have this guy Keyon

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Speaker 3: They're good man nine nine and fifty five of their

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Speaker 3: are their two best rushers. The rest of the guys

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Speaker 3: there's really good rushers as well. Those are the guys

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Speaker 3: and things like that. They pushed the pocket real well.

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Speaker 3: They're actually they're well coached defense, very good fundamentals, very

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Speaker 3: good schemes. Over the course of all the time that

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Speaker 3: they've been there, they've they've established a way to attack

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Speaker 3: everything that every team doesn't lead you if you look

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Speaker 3: at enough film, you're like they have a way. If

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Speaker 3: they know what you're doing, they're going to take advantage

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Speaker 3: of it. They do a really nice job. They're very

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Speaker 3: well coached, very good fundamentals, and they have good alted

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Speaker 5: Have you seen the I think you said the game.

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Speaker 1: Against Minnesota you felt better about the way your line

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Speaker 6: How was the last week's game against the Rams.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of good things because you

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Speaker 4: You know, you still have to even know we weren't.

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Speaker 4: We weren't. We weren't as good to be honest.

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Speaker 3: But but yet it's always with the it's there's the

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Speaker 4: Period. We weren't as good as we were.

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Speaker 3: The previous two weeks at all in past protection run

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Speaker 3: and and our scoring drives, whatever I do. You can't

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Speaker 3: get into all that, but the bottom line is it

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Speaker 3: wasn't as good of a production. A productive day for

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Speaker 4: Is a physical one on one guy. Physical. We just

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry it was physical. Yes, I think you.

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Speaker 6: Guys for the first three weeks have almost double the

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Speaker 6: amount of three man rushes that you're seeing, at least

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Speaker 6: that bros face in terms of passitives you think you

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Speaker 3: More another one, I'd like to say this because we

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Speaker 3: they drop, right.

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Speaker 4: But that would be a heresy to say that drop.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Every has their own reasons for doing things, you know,

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Speaker 3: whatever the situations are. Maybe they think what we're trying

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Speaker 3: thought that, hey, this is one where they're leaving people.

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Speaker 3: There's so many different reasons. Like again, when Vic Fangiol

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Speaker 4: He rushed six.

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Speaker 3: The second Todd Heap was off the ball, we're usually

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Speaker 4: He dropped eight and rushed three. So just by heat

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Speaker 3: He set a whole game plan up rushing three or

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Speaker 4: This is what they do.

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Speaker 3: This is our best chance to get them stopped or

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Speaker 6: It would seem like that would maybe put more pressure

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Speaker 6: And what is kind of the challenge of keeping those things.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you saw the plays, I mean brocks back there.

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Speaker 3: Everybody gets nervous. You're like the timing of the timing

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Speaker 3: We weren't quite sync. It was it was a little

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Speaker 4: It just that you get used to.

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Speaker 3: You're like, oh yeah, and that's what you remind him

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Speaker 3: the balls thrown, the d lineman take off when now

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Speaker 3: you're here and they're like, they're not taking off, but

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Speaker 3: Know, you me watching the game, we're like, yeah, the

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Speaker 4: I can't see anything.

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Speaker 1: You could be your number one back for a while.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I guess no one really knows.

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Speaker 3: You always have to keep in mind, you really do

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Speaker 2: Do roll the defense. So did coordinators have that ability?

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Speaker 2: Belichick obviously have that ability because may of borrowing Belichick's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it hasn't changed much from last year.

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Speaker 3: Actually, it's it's pretty much the same. The word is

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Speaker 4: Was our I've heard it through the media.

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Speaker 3: I don't know this to be fact, but they're trying

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Speaker 4: That sounded like they're pushing the envelope.

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Speaker 3: we're always gonna make it better than it was. You know,

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Speaker 1: For years this franchise. Hid Dante's oar neck. He has

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dante was, you know, as much as an old

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Speaker 3: everybody else. But Dante was a you know, Dante's old

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Speaker 3: They did what they did sometimes to a fault sometimes

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Speaker 4: And tight, and he did a great job.

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Speaker 3: I knew Dante way back when I don't have I

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Speaker 3: don't have a very close personal relationship with Dante, but

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Speaker 3: Dante is really good. You know, I went through some

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Speaker 3: Dante's a guy that afterwards was very open. When Dante

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Speaker 4: We could sit and talk some ball.

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Speaker 3: I want him doing retirement till he came back to

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Speaker 4: But Dante's is just.

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Speaker 3: A really quality man, a hard working guy, and I

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Speaker 4: Respected so much of what he did. I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't do a lot of it the same way,

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Speaker 3: Gondo's performance, loved him, loved and we had Oh man,

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Speaker 3: if you guys watched All twenty two, if you saw

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Speaker 3: He's got that upright good speed running style and I'm

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Speaker 3: I want to see him get a chance to get

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Speaker 3: We just haven't got him in the space yet.

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Speaker 4: I like him. He's got a ways to go.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, he's got a lot of developing to do, and

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Speaker 4: But he's got a little bit something different from those guys.

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Speaker 5: And I realized it works for most but usually you

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Speaker 5: hear us, you know, Uprice is not good. You're gonna

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Speaker 4: It it can't be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you know you're gonna hit. I mean

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Speaker 3: you've seen Raheem say the name of thirty winters. Raheem right, Raheem.

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Speaker 3: Raheem was the track guy. He's upright runner. You saw

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Speaker 3: it does you play with the lower center grabbar, you

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Speaker 3: play lowder of the ground, you're not gonna be as fast.

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Speaker 3: these guys are spinners, are straight up right, and they're

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Speaker 3: running their butt off. And so that's that's Isaac. And

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Speaker 3: I really like the way he runs, and he has

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Speaker 3: it's not always great, but it hasn't slowed him down yet,

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