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Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness? Culture raised calling? And wow?

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Speaker 1: Even though the cover of the Little Mixed single is

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Speaker 1: The word I was thinking I was not mermaid notes

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Speaker 1: it makeup? No, even though I have been wearing makeup

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Speaker 1: But that's not it. Well, make sure you're using you're

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Speaker 1: doing a double cleanse. I mean, now you're you're kind

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Speaker 1: it music? Yes, it's music. Music is the word I

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Speaker 1: And there's so much music to talk about. So this

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Speaker 1: you can't tell already, dear reader, Um, I was telling

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Speaker 1: But I appreciate and deeply love everything. So why don't

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Speaker 1: self awareness about herself, which is kind of cool to see,

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00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: and um, I just love that. That's it feels like lyrically,

425
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: this is Taylor Swift in a nutshell. It's her coming

426
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 1: to terms with like the thing that's sort of motivated

427
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: her whole life, which is that she just works. She

428
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: I mean, she's like she you can't know, I mean,

429
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: like whatever, like let's just like put aside like any

430
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: sort of like value in like productivity or whatever or anything.

431
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: But it's like she just works so hard and she

432
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: has she has worked for like validation from like the industry.

433
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's interesting reading a lot of interviews

434
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: um by Aaron with Aaron Destner. I read one this morning, well,

435
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: im multure he didn't want Pitchfork where he was talking

436
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: about how like he met Taylor and like how Taylor

437
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: went to one of the Nationals or one of Big

438
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: Red Machines concerts in Prospect Park last year she went

439
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: with Anthony, I think, and um, which is great, but

440
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: I love that. I think I think Anthony is the

441
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: perfect sort of like Cipher or the surrogate to like

442
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,239
Speaker 1: to like introduce Taylor to these bands, but like I'm

443
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: sure Taylor knew of them. If Antony is the reason

444
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 1: for folklore, I have mixed felings about that, but ultimately

445
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: stops up. Um, but I'll stop but Aaron Destner, Aaron

446
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: Destner was just like, yeah, like we met like she

447
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: and like you can tell that like he respects. He

448
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 1: always respected the hell out of her. And it's like

449
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: I think amongst musicians like like like like whatever, the

450
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: general public's sentiment around Taylor Swift is like crested and

451
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: crashed like so many in so many different ways and times.

452
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: But like musicians, I think see through all that and

453
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: like respect the a lot of Taylor Swift. I am

454
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 1: sure that they do. That's why she has a million Grammys,

455
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's like, yes, her

456
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: industry respects her, but also the people that make up

457
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: the industry respect her. That's why she has so many

458
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: interesting collaborations. That's why she works at the best of

459
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 1: the best. I mean, yes, or she she has a

460
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: machine behind her that probably gets whatever it wants. But ultimately,

461
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: you cannot argue with the fact that anyone can not

462
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: anyone can become successful, but anyone with the amount of

463
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: privilege that she had can become probably successful in some way.

464
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: Not everyone can become the most successful and stay the

465
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 1: most successful. She is really, really, really talented, and we

466
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 1: talked about her as a songwriter and a musician, but

467
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of her vocal ability, something that's

468
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: happening throughout this entire album is she is really emotionally

469
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 1: connected to a lot of this stuff. And um, even

470
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: when it's like, even when she's outsourcing the experience to

471
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: look through like another point of view, it's still like

472
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: so lived in yep. Um, I was gonna say, I

473
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: was gonna say, yes, you're right about like anyone, anyone

474
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: quote unquote could have reached this level of whatever exposure,

475
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: but like not everyone can leverage their resources in this way.

476
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: She knows how to direct her whatever energy, let's say,

477
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: to the right people and at the right time, and

478
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: conserve the right things and pull them out at the

479
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: right in the right ways and execute in the correct way.

480
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: And I think she's she's done that. The album gets

481
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: really strong for me around this area seven. I mean,

482
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: this is this song is a moment. This song is about,

483
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, nostalgia is her best friend, as we and uh,

484
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: this song is actually about a lot more than I

485
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: think people realize because it's about I think a friend

486
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: of hers that went through a trauma at a very

487
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: young age. Um is what I'm gathering from my research.

488
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: And just the the lyric. Are there still beautiful things? Um?

489
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: You know talking about and that very vivid painting of

490
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: a girl up in a tree like looking down like

491
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: her saying Pennsylvania's below her, like that moment of innocence

492
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: is so captured in this and saying you peaked at seven.

493
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: At seven, that's it's sad. It's really sad, and it's

494
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: so feels like a quarantine song, you know what I mean,

495
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: like a real moment of reflection. I mean, I don't

496
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: know if I know better songs then this matter about this. Yeah,

497
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: Mirrorball I think is a contender for for Quarantine, for

498
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: a good quarantine song, um which where it's like I'm hush,

499
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: I know they say the end is near, but you

500
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: know whatever, it's like. But seven seven feels like an

501
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: Alice Monroe story. It's like so like tragic and like

502
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: sad and about a girl which we all fucking love anyway,

503
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: Um seven I love. I just she's doing something you vocally,

504
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: I think that we haven't heard her do before, just

505
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: like like just singing up in that little I guess

506
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: that's not really a mass where it's not really like

507
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: a a mix, but it's like she's she's she's like

508
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: she's like kind of straining in this very nice way.

509
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 1: I don't even know if straining is the right word.

510
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: But it's beautiful. It's beautiful. I mean, well, speaking of vocals,

511
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: we get the album's one and only belt on August,

512
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: which I love. This is my favorite song and it

513
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: should come as no surprise because I I've been saying

514
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: that I, you know, gravitate more towards the pop stuff.

515
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: There's a drum machine. Yeah to me, I specifically love

516
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: this song because not only is it more in line

517
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: with my sensibility in terms of not only Taylor but

518
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: also just pop music. I love what this is about.

519
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: This is about that um like a look at ephemeral

520
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: summer romance. Yes, it's about that relationship in your life

521
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: that comes and goes and you, um will always remember it.

522
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: And that lyric about it being like a bottle of

523
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: sipped wine August slipped away. Man, it is so good.

524
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm about to be a fucking I'm about to be

525
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: a fucking idiot. It's so First she goes August slipped

526
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: away like into a moment in time. Yeah. And then

527
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: she goes August sipped away like a bottle of wine. Yeah,

528
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: come on, come on, a little subtle, subtle change in

529
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: the constant. Yeah, she nailed that. And also, um, you know,

530
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: just she's again so good at just saying what we

531
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: all feel and we're all like, oh, yeah, that is

532
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: how I feel, like, cancel all your plans just in

533
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: case you call. Like that feels like old Taylor in

534
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: a way, where you're like, yeah, that's that girl, that's

535
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: that girl we know and she and she's still um,

536
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: she's still here in this thirty year thirty one year

537
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: old body that she was when she was fourteen, fifteen

538
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: and sixteen years old. You know, like still grappling with

539
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 1: this stuff and still able to articulate it in that

540
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: pure way. You're like, yeah, that Taylor that you weren't sure,

541
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: We're still there from reputation and lover which is kind

542
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: of a mess compared to this album, if I if

543
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: I do say so myself, Um, no real shame because

544
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: it's still a great album. We just have such such

545
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: a high standard. Um, it's really fun to hear this

546
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 1: stuff from her. This is classic Taylor where she has uh,

547
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: she has a bridge that's like one sort of idea

548
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: and then she repeats it again, but then like sort

549
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: of with with this like accentuated um force behind it

550
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: because you know, like I do, remember like she does,

551
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: they canceled my plans just in case you would call.

552
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: And then she comes back into it and dropped the

553
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: beat drops out and then it like and the guitars

554
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: and the drums come back in like full force. The

555
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: second time when she when she repeats the bridge, it's

556
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: like okay, like she knows, she's like so good. She's

557
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: done this a million times before, and we love it

558
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: because she knows when to pull out the trucks. Yeah,

559
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: and I mean it also didn't feel like a departure

560
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: from the rest to the album either, you know what

561
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean. It just feels like a high point, like

562
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: a classic, just natural high point in the album. I

563
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: love this song. I think I think it's the album's

564
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: strongest song. That's one of my favorites. Um this is

565
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: Me Trying. I really don't have too much to say

566
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: about this. I think it's pretty simple. I think it's

567
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: I think it's good. I just don't have too much

568
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: to say about it after the three songs that came

569
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: before it, Like you know, I I think it it's

570
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: a different emotional texture and I like that she's playing

571
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: a little bit like, um, this is like sprit. But

572
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a good acting performance. This is like

573
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 1: The Archer where it just starts off with like one tone.

574
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: It's like because on This is Me Trying, it's like

575
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: and then there's the drums coming and then it starts

576
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: to embellish, but then like, I think that's how the

577
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: Archer was. It's just it's like the within the Archer was,

578
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: and then the other stuff gets gets sort of glombed on,

579
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: but layered in, layered in. I think this is like

580
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: very a nice little sort of garnished on the album.

581
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: I guess where it's just like, uh yeah, it just

582
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: builds towards like this, this christiando at the end. One

583
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: of my favorite songs on the album is Illicit Affairs,

584
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: because I just I I loved Dashboard Confessional and this

585
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: to me feels like a song. The bridge is so dashboard,

586
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: I mean, not everything about it, Like I love that

587
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: it's just about like you know, and a lot of

588
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: it almost feels like a short chapter of a book.

589
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: It's just so well written and it's such a you

590
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: can really follow it. And a lot of this album

591
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: is about being secretive and what goes on behind the

592
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: scenes that like not everyone knows about, and like little

593
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: little moments like stolen moments. And I like that she

594
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: explores this like you know, um, not to repeat the title,

595
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: but elicit side of herself, like naughty side of herself,

596
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: like side of herself that's breaking the rules a little bit.

597
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: I think it's really fun. I love the surprising little

598
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: melody choices in the in the um this. You know

599
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: what I think she does on this album, uh, is

600
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: she makes these meals out of like small small flings,

601
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 1: let's say, where it's like I've and this is this

602
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: is just me getting personal if it's like I'm all

603
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm always hung up on the thing of like I

604
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: haven't had anything longer, I haven't been in a relationship

605
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: longer than like this much time and this much time.

606
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: And I talked to friends and like other friends who

607
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: kind of have the same experience, and they're like, yeah,

608
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: but it's like it's like time doesn't lend anything legitimacy,

609
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: and it's like it's it's it's these like fleeting moments

610
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: that are so powerful, and I feel like she I

611
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 1: think Taylor is like really leading into that sort of

612
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: overall notion on this album is like these little moments

613
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: get blown out into these musical sort of pieces that

614
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: are so beautiful. And I do love A Listened Affairs

615
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: for being the second part of this teenage love trilogy

616
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: that she's she built out. Well, that you have you

617
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 1: have Betty, you have the the other Woman and then

618
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: you have James, I guess who is like um, and

619
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: then and then you mean by other woman icon Well no,

620
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: but the the do you think? And Naz is singing

621
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: list of affairs that's from and that's what I think

622
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: you heard the rumors from me Naz. Okay, interesting, Well

623
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: we'll get to that when we get to Betty. Um,

624
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: I think that is just like a fun like it's

625
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: like a fun like person with the gossip. You think

626
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,239
Speaker 1: it's a fun thing that rhymes, says. I think it's

627
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: a fun thing that rhymes, it says. It's a fun

628
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: name that rends it says. And then she's as is

629
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: just like it's a way for Taylor to put a

630
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: little color in the album. She wasn't hearing enough color,

631
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: Jared saying, Okay, so I guess the love triangle is

632
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: Betty ENAs and James named after Blake Lively. And this

633
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: is what jeryld drive. Um, we don't have to get

634
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: into that. He just gave me a look that was

635
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: like I'm right, Oh, I'm sure he's right, But I'm

636
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: also like, okay, that's right. We have to like this

637
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: couple that got married on a plantation. Hi Jane, Oh, Hijane.

638
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: I miss her. She's so beautiful, She's a gorgeous woman.

639
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: She's she's doing wonder I was thinking about Jane today.

640
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: I was reading a book that was talking about the

641
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: Olympic brain, about how like dogs play fetch and play

642
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: tug of war, not because it doesn't serve any evolutionary purpose,

643
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: but it's because they want to connect with you know,

644
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: they're people they like. Well, you know, Jane actually is

645
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: going through it a little bit right now because she

646
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: heard her Paul a little bit at daycare and so

647
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: actually she's going to the vet now and she's going

648
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: to get checked out. And Jared's dared thinks it. He

649
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: can sense in her energy that she's not feeling too good.

650
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: Has Jared talked to a pet psychic? Has Jared talked

651
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: to a pet psychic? Yet? He has not spoken to

652
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: a pet psychic, But I famously want us to speak

653
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: to you should speak to on. I was talking with

654
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: m fight Master the other night and they were telling

655
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: me about an experience of the pet psychic they had

656
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: with their cat, Um whose name was originally some crazy name,

657
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: but the pet psychic was like, oh no, the cat

658
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: wants to be called Rindy, like you you've been calling

659
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: the cat Rindy, and the cat likes the name Rindy,

660
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: And like it's just these pet psychics. I mean, they

661
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: they are communing with something big, and I think you

662
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: should you should have Jared talked to a pet psychic.

663
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll we'll be speaking to a pet psychic

664
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: in the near future. Um, but let's continue with our

665
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: sort of discussion on this album and talk about Invisible String,

666
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: a song that everyone loves and I don't get It's

667
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: a beautiful song. I don't get it. I don't I

668
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: don't get the not that I don't it sound that

669
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: I hate it. It's just that everyone has this reaction

670
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: to it. And I'm like, what makes this one so

671
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: much different than everything else. It's just the way the

672
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: guitar hast plucked. Aaron Dustin I was thinking an interview that, Um,

673
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: the bridge on the guitar was like there was like

674
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: a rubber stopper and like kind of like stopped this

675
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: the strings, the plucks from vibrating, so that it just

676
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: sounded so plucky. I just think it's so's She's just

677
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: it's just such an interestingly produced and instrumental and like

678
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: arranged song and like you know, this is the thing.

679
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: And as you've established, Taylor Swift does longing better than anybody.

680
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: And this is a song. Um I think Pitchworker was

681
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: writing about this, Like there's there's a quality and a

682
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: lot of love songs that is like I'm missing someone

683
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: before you've met them, like Harley Ridge Gubson before you

684
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: came into my life. I missed you so bad. There's

685
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: like there's like there's like this feeling. There's no word

686
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: for it, but there's this feeling that gets written about

687
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: kind of universally, and I feel like this is a

688
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: song that's about that. It's like two people, um who

689
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 1: they haven't even mapped, but there are these like invisible

690
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: hands and forces that like bring them together. And I

691
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: think she, I think Taylor captures that so perfectly. Yeah,

692
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: And it's just a beautiful song. It's a beautiful melody.

693
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna speak about this one because I

694
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: just I don't really have strong feelings on it either way.

695
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: I'm just reacting to the fact that everyone seems to

696
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: love this one is like a standout on the album,

697
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: and I think it's I don't know, I think it's

698
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: one of her best songs, the best songs ever. It's

699
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: just it's so evocative, it's so I can't even get

700
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: into what did he say it again? I just I

701
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: just love it. I just think it's so lovely. It's lovely,

702
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: well moving to one of the songs that I think

703
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: is the best one on the whole album. I don't

704
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: care much for this mad Woman See mad Woman to

705
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: me is like the girl on reputation has chilled out

706
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: and like how a glass of wine and like, but

707
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: it's still just as pissed. Like I think that her

708
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: perform on this and the lyrics on this are on

709
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: the album, Like when she says that girl on the

710
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: in the lawn, do you think that she's smiling or

711
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: is she's saying fuck you forever? Like that to me

712
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: is and the way that she says it is so

713
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: the way that she when she's delivering the line, my

714
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: cannons all firing at your yacht, like she sounds furious

715
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: and like you can hear in her voice she's like

716
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: shaking with anger, Like this is about I guess Scotporchetta

717
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: and Scooterbron, and I mean they will be enemies of

718
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: hers for the rest of her life, and I think that,

719
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: like it's just so like you took me down, but

720
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: you didn't realize that I will never stop fighting for

721
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: what is mine and what is right, and you will

722
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: always be the villains in the story. Like you might

723
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: have won the battle, but the war you will you

724
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: have lost, and you will always be losing. It's like,

725
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: truly the song is like I mean, I mean even

726
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: just talking about like, um, you made her this way,

727
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: like this is your it didn't have to be this way.

728
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: And this is my take pretty much on this entire

729
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: album as compared to Lover, but specifically this song as

730
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: compared to The Man. The Man I've always said I

731
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: don't love like I. I think it's very clever, but

732
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: it's on the nose. She's it's it's it's too much

733
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: of him. It's too simple of a thought that she's community. Literally,

734
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: Selena Gomez could sing that song. I mean, Arianna Granda

735
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: could sing that song. Anyone could sing that song, and

736
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: I'd be like cool, it didn't feel like singularly Taylor

737
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: Swift like she was sort of like stating sexism instead

738
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: of exploring sexism and exploring the way that it's like

739
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: really hurt her and what her feelings are around it,

740
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: exploring the fact that she's been betrayed by people that

741
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: she trusted. This is singularly Taylor her using all of

742
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: her like which like powers as a songwriter and really

743
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: specific cyfically illustrating what she's going through instead of you know,

744
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: if I was a man, things would be easier, like

745
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: anyone can say that. Everyone has been saying that for

746
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: the past twenty five years, and I think, like, unfortunately,

747
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: it's it's when you, when you stated so plainly again

748
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: and again, that's when stupid people start stop listening and

749
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: she sure this and they'll feel it in their bones.

750
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: People have compared The Man with if I were a

751
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: boy Beyonce, and it's like that's like a full like

752
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: rumination reflection on like how different her like experiences her

753
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: or her the way she would receive things or she

754
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: would like what else what she would do differently. This

755
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 1: is like the Man is more like my career would

756
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: be different if I was if I was a man,

757
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: which like is that which is totally valid, totally, but

758
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: it felt like her as a part of the pop

759
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: music industry speaking on the issue and not her as

760
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: an artist as a human being speaking on it, I

761
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: like that take on man women a lot, and it's

762
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: it's a more grounded rage. You're right. I like that

763
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: she's chilled out. She's had a clout, a couple of

764
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: classes of wine. Some years have passed by, but she's

765
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: still like fucked like fucking piston, right. And this is

766
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: where I said, like, I think this is the most

767
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: the best example of how Quarantine has been a very

768
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: interesting and useful creative time for her. Again, never want

769
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: to say that Quarantine has been quote unquote good for anyone,

770
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: but so what I'm saying is, like this, I wonder

771
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: if she experimented with psychedelics before she did this. I

772
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: am willing to bet that she's done psychedelics before this album.

773
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: I think she's done psychedelics like I think she did

774
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: it like before Red, honestly, and that would make sense

775
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: to me. But like the entire imagery of like her

776
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: being up in the woods, she's making shrooms tea, she's

777
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: doing the Silo Cybin t Darling hundred per cent. And

778
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, like she saw the Goop episode,

779
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: she saw that she did, Yes, she she she literally

780
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: watched Goop and was like, I'm doing that. No, just kidding.

781
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: She's smarter in that I'm And see here's the thing.

782
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: Taylor watches the Group Show and says, I want to

783
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: do that. Taylor has been doing it for ten years.

784
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: Like for me, it's like she's like already been explored

785
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: her mind. But Taylor, I think, see this is this

786
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: is the difference. Taylor was singing the Man and I

787
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: don't want to hear about the Man from Taylor. Taylor

788
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: wrote mad Woman and I'm like wrapped. So you're not

789
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: even so I thought you were like disappointed that Taylor

790
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: was back, but you're so I'm not disappointed that Taylor

791
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: is back. I'm saying Taylor and Taylor are two different people.

792
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: And Taylor is hips hips point, let's go. And Taylor

793
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: is like, I am, you know, writing my name in

794
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: a tree, but for real, because I am this girl.

795
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: And she's like I'm gonna write poetry and actually not

796
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: going to class today, or like I'm feeling sick because

797
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm too emotional, which I love, you know what I mean?

798
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: Like I love both those girls, but I want them

799
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: to I want them to both naturally be themselves. You

800
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I see because there is like

801
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: a duality to her. What's her what's her sign? What's

802
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: her sign? She's a Sagittarius, yes, December, Yeah, the archer, Um,

803
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: she's a sad I want I want Johnny Nicholas to

804
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of her chart. I want to

805
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: want miss Johnny Nicholas to really look into what's going

806
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: on there. You might even say that on this album

807
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 1: she had an epiphany. Oh my god, is that? What's next? Yeah?

808
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: Can you tell that I've been doing puns for the

809
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: past two weeks. There's a lot of pun humor and

810
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: hot dog so like um epiphany anyway, stunning, gorgeous, gorgeous score,

811
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,959
Speaker 1: just score to score, just a beautiful tribute to her

812
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: grandfather discussing, you know, his experiences in the war and

813
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: then relating it to COVID. Relating it to COVID. Absolutely, absolutely,

814
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: a beautiful song. Beautiful song. I mean, I don't have

815
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: much to really say about it other than I just appreciate,

816
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: um gorgeous song about the fragility of life. Yes, um, okay,

817
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: what's gonna tell me? We have Betty I she I

818
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 1: think she is fully aware of the sort of queer

819
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: bating discussion that's been around her ever since Lover, and

820
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: I feel like she absolutely knew what she was going

821
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: to be doing, that she was going to drive the

822
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: queers up the fucking wall with like the speculation on this,

823
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: I love that she's taking cover behind this is from

824
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: the point of view of James, but it's just I mean,

825
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: even her singing through um a sort of like transcending

826
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: gender in her point of view, is a queer thing,

827
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: you know, like she's she's doing something queer. Regardless of

828
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: your take on this, I do not think she wrote

829
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: this as a queer bating thing. I think she's telling

830
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: a story, just like she told the story with every

831
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: track on the Alum could have easily used the third person,

832
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: easily used the third person and said James at this,

833
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 1: jameson Nope, I'm gonna revisit this later. And I don't

834
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: think so, honey, because I'm okay, girl it um. But

835
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: I feel that she is just simply exploring perspective on

836
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: this song beautifully. I love this song. That's one of

837
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: my favorites, that's one of my first on the entire album,

838
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: and I think that it has nothing to do with queerness.

839
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: And I don't think she sat she sat down and

840
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: wrote that song and said, and the internet, we'll talk

841
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: about how it might be clear. Right, that's Taylor. Though

842
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: Taylor is still Taylor doesn't exist on this album, yes,

843
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: but she subconsciously exists. She is very much pulling the

844
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: strings Taylor, because Taylor. This is just stupid, stupid horror.

845
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: I want to say that. Aaron Destner also said that

846
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: she was going for like Bob Dylan, like freewheeling, like

847
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: early Bob Dylan, free willing Bob Dylan. T is like Harmonica,

848
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: of course, like the whole bit. It's very much um

849
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: fucking cape lynchat and I'm not there like doing Bob Dylan.

850
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, this is a woman doing drag as

851
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: a man, right, but I don't. But but but that's

852
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: queer darling, And that's queer even though I don't. Even

853
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: though it's not like this lesbian anthem, it's still she's

854
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: it's a queer. It's queer cannon if people needed to

855
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: be queer, as your friend Jill got to it said,

856
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: this song is peer cannon. Betty is queer cannon metal.

857
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: She's wrong, And I would say that to Jill's face

858
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: as I push her off a bridge. So here's what

859
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: I feel this is, she's being an artist on this song,

860
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: not a queer batter on this song. Taylor. Taylor doesn't

861
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: queer bait. No, She's she sat on the grass with

862
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: her bare feet and she wrote this song because she

863
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: wanted to explore perspective and tell that that tell the

864
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: trilogy story. It's not queer baiting, and I'm I'm revisiting.

865
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: I just don't think it is. I don't think there's

866
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: more to it than she wrote a lovely song, which

867
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: my only problem with it is it's the same literally same,

868
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: same exactly core progression of death by that and cuts,

869
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: which is distracting to me. Literally it's the same, but

870
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: it's the same exact question. But it's like how Judas

871
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: is the same exact core progression is like bad romance.

872
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: I would point that out as well. Then if that's true,

873
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: I would point that out as well. I just it

874
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: is true. There's no need to question it's validity, right, bitch,

875
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: stupid you are You're just mad that I don't agree

876
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: with you on that point. But I will say this,

877
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: while the song is not queer Cannon and I don't

878
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 1: think she was baiting with this. I do think Inez

879
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: is a gay icon. Z is a gay icon. Now

880
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: now it's Ryan Reynolds's daughter. Why is their daughter named Inez?

881
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm sure. I mean, I'm sure there

882
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: might be a family name. Um. We we should say

883
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: that we love Ryan, we love Blake, we love the children.

884
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: We don't know them. We can't say we love them.

885
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: We don't know them. Miss Why is I would like

886
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: to know. Honestly, I don't think so, honey, that Blake

887
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: Glavely named her daughter Enez. Well, that's not for us

888
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: to question. It is for us to question. I'm gonna

889
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: be upfront. Can I say something. Blake Lively stopped me

890
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: in the halls of eight h and complimented me one time,

891
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: so I can't really talk. Oh my god, you're talking

892
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: cutting it out. We're not. We're not cutting it out,

893
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: he says. He goes, I have to be honest. Blake

894
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: Live least tapped me in the studios of SNL and

895
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: like complimented me on my performance or whatever. So he

896
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: thinks you have to cut this out. We are not

897
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: cutting it out, bitch. You also haven't said anything it's

898
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: me that's questioning why her kid is named in and

899
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: I would ask her that question in the studios of eight. Ah,

900
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: I'm trying to protect my friends Blake and Ryan who

901
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: got married on a plantation. L O L Hi Jared.

902
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: We can't, Hi, Jared, we can't use any of this. Um,

903
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I don't. I really don't think Betty

904
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: is queer baiting guys. Just let me just let me

905
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: you have you have the you can have it, and

906
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: guess what millions agree with you over us. But we

907
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: have to voice this. I don't even this is actually

908
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: a rasure. It's not. It's not. It's not because we

909
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: don't need Taylor Swift to be gay if she's not,

910
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: and I don't think she is. And I think it's

911
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: like I I resent the fact that she could. She's

912
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 1: like hiding in a client not saying. I'm not saying

913
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: no matter what, she's gay. I'm saying that she decided

914
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: to have a queer filter through her songwriting and Betty

915
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: and that's absolutely you can absolutely make that argument. Fine,

916
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: maybe that, but I'm just she's channeling right. But it's

917
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: also in an album called Folklore, in which she's telling

918
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: folk tales. I think that it's also just as valid

919
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: to say it's a story from someone's point of view,

920
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: because I think she's doing a lot of storytelling on

921
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: the album. That don't think you don't think there's a

922
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: place for queer people in modern folk tales? Got it

923
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: homophobic or no? I'm saying that she can first homophobic

924
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: sex worker? Ok, oh my god, let's move on. Piece.

925
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: I love peace, Love Peace, literally love peace. Thought the

926
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: album should have been did with this. I agree, but

927
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: I would say that I think this is a genius

928
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: marketing tool for her to be like and stay tuned.

929
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: If you buy my vinyl or my physical CD, you'll

930
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: get the bonus track of the Lakes, which feels like

931
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: maybe the real closer. I wish that The Lakes was

932
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: the closer then, and not Hoax because I don't like

933
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: cokes hopefull. It feels tacked on. Well it's I think, um,

934
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: it's intentionally inconclusive, but she is intentionally inconclusive. I think

935
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: she's intentionally sort of like it ends on this like

936
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: unresolved like phrase. Um, oh my god, Doug hot Engineer

937
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: Dog is saying in the chat, please don't use Bob

938
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: Dylan misspelled, by the way, do you spell in the

939
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: same sentence as t Swift, Doug? If you're real, no

940
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: one asked you. If you're a real Freewheeland, you know,

941
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: blonde on blonde bitch like me. I know my Bob Dylan,

942
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: don't misspell the damn name. And also you wouldn't be

943
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be, so you wouldn't be so threatened, Doug,

944
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: because you know you know who I bet doesn't mind

945
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 1: the comparison, Bob Dylan herself. I'm closing this chat now,

946
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: see you later, see you later. Done. We love Doug

947
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: so much, don't we. We love done and we appreciate

948
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: his perspective. And thank you Jam for sending me this

949
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: pop filter um as a surprise shady gift. I really

950
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: actually laughed at that. I had a good laugh at

951
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: that one. Gonna have to apply the po filter and

952
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: laugh on that one. Girl. I don't think it's a

953
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: shady thing. Everyone, No one is, No one is immune.

954
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: No one is immune to a pop filter. Bitch. Hon,

955
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: you make peas and ses and tease and you and you,

956
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: you do the fricative sounds just like all of us.

957
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: Excuse me, it's shade when the gift arrives without any notice,

958
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: because it's like, high bitch, got you this without any

959
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: heads up, and I'm there to left, assuming that I

960
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: am popping my peas and teas and seas or whatever.

961
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying the shade was in the surprise

962
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: of the gift. Um peace is gorgeous, Um love peace love.

963
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: They say loving is public, but I would die free

964
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: in secret and butturing the lyric. But it's just do

965
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 1: you think that William Bowery is Joe? I don't care.

966
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: I love. I mean will the William Bowery of at

967
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: all is very Taylor, let's say extremely Taylor. For her

968
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: to create a name for someone that, I mean, it's

969
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: it's obviously Joe, right, William Bowery. Didn't they meet in Bowery?

970
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: I have no idea. What's what's Bowery in like in

971
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: the New York area. Oh, and that's why she keeps

972
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: talking about East Village dive bars. She's always been obsessed

973
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: with the East Village dive bar of it all in

974
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: relation to Joe. Yeah, she's been referencing dive bars since reputation.

975
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: And You're like, when have you ever been in a

976
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: dive bar. I think that she spent quite a bit

977
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: of time there. She probably wasn't that dive bar. One.

978
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: Let's say she was in like Death and Company one time,

979
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: and now like it's like she just has imprinted on

980
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: the idea of dive bars. This is like novel concept.

981
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: I believe that her team is fearsome and talented enough

982
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: to have it to execute her participating in a dive

983
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: bar culture if she wanted to. I think they could

984
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: have cleared things out, costumed her, et cetera, that she

985
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: could go hang out with Joe Awen and dive bars

986
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: in the East Village. Okay, God, I missed, I miss bars.

987
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to be one of those people. I mean

988
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 1: me too. I mean it's just for me. It's it's

989
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: coming in cycles. I'm like, oh no, like I'll be

990
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: fine until the vaccine. And now I'm just like, oh,

991
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: I would just want like a martini or like. And

992
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: the thing is, I'm not talented. I'm making drinks either.

993
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: Well that's not true. I'm actually pretty good. You you

994
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: you make very good drinks. Okay, Peace, I love peace. Hoax. Yeah,

995
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: we don't have to talk about hoax. But I don't

996
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: care about it. I do think Hoax is intentionally placed

997
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: in a way that I don't. I don't give that credit,

998
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: that same credit to the one being intentionally placed as

999
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: the opener. Hoax is intentionally placed as a closer, as

1000
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: a way of like leaving it just like open ended

1001
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: sort of. Though I don't know. I think the book

1002
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: ends of the album are off, but I don't think

1003
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: it matters, because this album is such an achievement. I mean,

1004
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 1: I think that it's really really incredible to see that

1005
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: she is so willing to explore new areas of herself

1006
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: as a songwriter, because it feels like the same girl,

1007
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: but feels like a more mature version and just like

1008
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: someone that's pushed it even further, who's already been giving

1009
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: us so much great stuff for a long time. And

1010
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: I think that it kind of makes Lover look even

1011
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: more foolish because one thing I think that um I

1012
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: hope that we have from her going forward is she

1013
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: doesn't need to answer to anyone, and she doesn't need

1014
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: to pretend to be anything. She doesn't need to stomp

1015
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: around uh in ally clothing. It's great that she wants

1016
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: to be an ally, but she she doesn't have to

1017
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: go necessarily go as far image wise, and I think

1018
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: that she has thought in the past, like it kind

1019
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: of feels like not authentic in a way the last

1020
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: album and like pretending, pretending to be best friends with

1021
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,479
Speaker 1: like a carry a dab inport. You're like really like

1022
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: she I think, I think, I mean, she would cop

1023
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: to it all being sort of ornamental to the music,

1024
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: I think, And now there's just no there's no ornament

1025
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: to it beyond just like the William Bowery of at all,

1026
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: Like that's the the only tailor elements are the conversation

1027
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: around Betty and then the William Bowery of it all.

1028
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: I feel like Folklore is like also big up to

1029
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: her for releasing a fucking autumn ask album in the

1030
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: summer and taking us there and and truly taking us

1031
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: into sweater Weather vibe, truly sweater Weather Cardigan asked no

1032
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: rules in terms of tone here, but one thing I

1033
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: love is like this album feels like a whole meal,

1034
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: whereas like Lover feels like you ate a cupcake. You

1035
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm not full cupcakes were good.

1036
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: I mean, the cupcakes were good. But love, but Folklore

1037
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: is like we we just ate a warm stew red

1038
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: as red as a full meal to me, is a

1039
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: feast ed? Is fucking Thanksgiving dinner? Yes? And what's sushi?

1040
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: Sushi out on the town? You can have a conveyor

1041
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: belt bit And so for me, if I'm ranking the albums,

1042
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: now and reputation is honey, it's a fucking um. Reputation

1043
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: is like, let's let's say, why is this? This one's hard.

1044
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: Reputation is a is a is a glass of ice

1045
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: water and it says, wake up, bitch. And reputation is

1046
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: a cocktail. It's not a you know what it is.

1047
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 1: It's a filthy, filthy, dirty martini. Yeah, that's reputation. Okay,

1048
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: So you're gonna rank the albums right now? I feel

1049
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: we can. So my ranking of the albums are I'm

1050
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: a girl because I love Taylor Red, Reputation, folklore mm

1051
00:55:54,760 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 1: hmm speaking it's speak now to your list, fearless lover

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00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. Okay, folklore is I'm as much as I

1053
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 1: love it, I don't know where to place it honestly

1054
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: in my ring. Well also it's too it's maybe two

1055
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: early friend well know, okay, but all this is mine ready,

1056
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm a Red girl because Red came out. You know

1057
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: you love Red because you and I are the same

1058
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: sort of academic age where it came out the first

1059
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 1: year out of college, and that it helped me through

1060
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: some ship. You were feeling twenty two. I was feeling

1061
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: twenty two. I don't know about you. Red n folklore

1062
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: reputation speak now lover Taylor Swift? No, no, no, no,

1063
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: no, no no no no. Where does fearless? Hold On, hold On,

1064
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: hold on Feeless for me is six, which feels shocking.

1065
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: I know it's such a good album. Okay, it's let

1066
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: me just redo that it's Red nine folklore reputation speak now,

1067
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: fearless lover Taylor Swift. But can we say something like,

1068
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 1: let's give respect to Taylor Taylor this album, this title

1069
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: title of should Taylor slash Taylor? Yes, let's just and

1070
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: let's just give respect because this artist is capable of

1071
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: folklore and reputation. Chameleon, come on, it's like, you better

1072
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: give it up, you better give it up, you better

1073
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: give it up. Okay. I loved that discussion. Can we

1074
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: quickly um give quick rundowns of we don't have to

1075
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 1: do track by track, we don't have to do track

1076
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: by track on these, although I feel we, oh, we

1077
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about him and Dixie Chicks

1078
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: now and then give them a little bit more attention

1079
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: to Chromatica. So I would love to talk about gas Ladder,

1080
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: which for me is like unbelievable start to finish, and

1081
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: I only I only don't love one song on it.

1082
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: And it's not even that I just liked the song out.

1083
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: It's March Marks and it's March March. Yeah. I just

1084
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: think I love that the album is about one thing,

1085
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: and it's what happens the divorce. I love that. I

1086
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: love that it's about that. It's such a good divorce thing.

1087
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the best divorced albums ever.

1088
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: And for me, it's like March March felt like hashtag

1089
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: political stance, hashtag liberal girls, hashtag Dixie Chicks, you know,

1090
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: in a way, and we should say they are the chicks,

1091
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: the chicks um and I, which which rocks um. But

1092
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: for me, it's just that one song doesn't fit. It's

1093
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: not even that I don't like those, is that it

1094
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: doesn't fit. It's literally it's it's it's a literal distillation

1095
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: of the fact that they have been defined by a

1096
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: political stance in in in their career, um, which I think,

1097
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: which I think like them changing their name to the

1098
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: Chicks is awesome, Um because it's it's because because they

1099
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: can do that, because they have sort of earned earned

1100
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: quote unquote the ability to sort of adapt themselves politically

1101
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: to things, because they've been so like whiplashed in to

1102
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: these different places that they never expected. Yes, Dad, Yes, Dad.

1103
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: I think it's a phenomenal album. It's it's the folklore

1104
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: and I will say Women to Music Part three, wimpy,

1105
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: phenomenal driving albums. You gotta drive as Miss Patty Lapone did.

1106
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: Hi Jane, Hi Jane, She's so beautiful, She's a one,

1107
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,959
Speaker 1: such a wonderful dog. Um. I love for her. I

1108
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: love Jane. Is Jane is having a cameo in the

1109
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: in the song she just licked the mic. She just

1110
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: licked the mic. Texas man Sleep at Night. Well, I

1111
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: feel like Sleep at Night is the bop of the

1112
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: year for me. I would nominated for a Record of

1113
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: the Year. I think the music video is amazing. UM

1114
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: love that them kind of doing their hoime thing in

1115
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: the music out in the music video. I and We're

1116
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,959
Speaker 1: gonna have Justin Trancer on the show. I can't wait,

1117
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: miss Jeff and we're very excited for that. And he

1118
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: has not only done this album and done so any amazing,

1119
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: incredible songs and that's gonna be another music episode, so

1120
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: y'all can look forward to that one. And um, this

1121
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: is amazing work. I mean, guess later. That's a great song.

1122
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: When it came out, I was like, cool, Yeah, they're back.

1123
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: I love it this as a part of a whole

1124
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: love it. I mean, sleep at Night, Texas Man, I

1125
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: live for and I love that song, and it's like

1126
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's just I love it. You know,

1127
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: you know the Kelly Colxson song A Whole Lot of Woman. Yeah,

1128
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: this is like an improvement on that idea. I got it.

1129
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: Um or like the song heat by Kelly Clarkson, Yes,

1130
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: I love Yes, You're right, cousins. They feel like in

1131
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: the same musical family. I love Texas Man, love for

1132
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: her for. I think there's some hidden gems on this

1133
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: album that people are not talking about, such as Julianna

1134
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: calmed Down, Calm Down. Juliana Calm Down is great, but

1135
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: can I be honest, I was mentally preparing myself for like, Okay,

1136
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: this will be like my album for the next three weeks.

1137
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: And then Miss Taylor, Taylor, I should say, came in

1138
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: and just kind of disrupt did my timeline on gas Lighter,

1139
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: So I have to revisit Gaslighter, and I'm the opposite

1140
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: because Taylor came out. But I'm still listening to Gaslighter

1141
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: sonic companion to what you've been experiencing in the last

1142
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, which is work, work, work, get up,

1143
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: get up, get up. It's way better. It fits into

1144
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: my life better right now. Um. Like I said, I

1145
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: love fl Flora and it will be there for me

1146
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: when I need it. Women in Music Part three, and

1147
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: then I just wanted to say one more thing, which

1148
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: is young Man beautiful, beautiful, beautiful album that thinks about

1149
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: the children mm hmmmm, which is a part of that.

1150
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: So this album really explores every aspect of that divorce.

1151
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,959
Speaker 1: Of course, shout out to Tights on My Boat shut Out.

1152
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: This album is amazing, and we should say Natalie means

1153
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: this is one of the best singers because she is

1154
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: so connected in her vocal cords to her heart and

1155
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: her soul and she feel everything she's thinking and feeling,

1156
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: like almost like on par I know it's a you're

1157
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,439
Speaker 1: like apples and orange comparison, but like I would say,

1158
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: like a Selene, like someone who can just emotionally deliver whatever.

1159
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: Yea whatever is like behind the lyric. Yeah, and if

1160
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: Taylor is a bridge queen Natalie mains as a second

1161
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: verse monster. Yes, and all the ladies because they co

1162
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: write the songs and again they worked with amazing Marty

1163
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: miss miss Emily. Yes, and they too worked with Jack

1164
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: ganson Off obviously and in addition to Justin and so

1165
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: many other amazing people Gas Lighter, I love I love it,

1166
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: love it, love it, love it now the spiritual successors

1167
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: in a way to the chicks him you you you

1168
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: were kind of late to the party on Women Music

1169
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: Part three? Can I can I out? Can I out

1170
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: use that? Yeah? I mean I still don't have any

1171
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: vocabulary for it, to be honest with you, I'm just

1172
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: and I want to get I want to give its

1173
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: based on this podcast to be loved so you okay? Well, um,

1174
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: I just love that. Well. Hunter Harris wrote this piece,

1175
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 1: um this this this mini profile on them, um, just

1176
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: talking about how the process was different and they didn't

1177
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: frame it around like any one singular sonic quality. And

1178
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: I just think, I just think it like benefits from

1179
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: having all of these m hm, these these these, these

1180
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: these elements in it, and rostam that long leage like

1181
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: just producing a lot of these songs brilliant touch, I

1182
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: mean like him, like he's I think, like it's such

1183
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: a good like guiding hand for a lot of these

1184
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: kinds of albums. And it's funny. I I am of

1185
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: the belief that the best tracks on the album are

1186
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: the bonus tracks at this are the promotional singles leading

1187
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: up to this. So that's nine minute Hallelujah, Summer Girl,

1188
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: um and I love that. Summer Girl is about um

1189
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: uh Danielle's relationship with Ariel her her her partner. And

1190
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just it's just a wonderful album.

1191
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: Another try Gasoline, Um, the Steps, my mom stands don't

1192
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: want To. I was playing I was playing the album

1193
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: in the car when I was back home with my parents.

1194
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: My mom loves don't want To. So my mom is

1195
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: ahime Girl for her, love that for her. Anyway, it's

1196
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: just a it's just a great it's and it's also

1197
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: such an l a album like they're literally in canters

1198
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: Deli on the cover. Um, and the album starts with

1199
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: attracting called Los Angeles. It's just like a It's a

1200
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: wonderful sort of transportive album that I think is just

1201
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: a flex on their songwriting songwriting abilities. Um, yeah, I

1202
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: just I just think it's phenomenal. It's great. Now a minute,

1203
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: you cannot deny I love now a minute. I just

1204
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: I I haven't. I just will be honest, like, uh,

1205
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: it's not occupied any of the space of time I've

1206
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: been listening to music because I think I've been listening

1207
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: to Chromatica so much and then guest later and now

1208
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: this it's just I I it's not snuck its way

1209
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: into my musical diet, which is on me, it's on you,

1210
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: it's on me readers. Didn't do my homework on this one.

1211
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: So far. What I what I feel to be the

1212
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: quintessential Quarantine album is not folklore. Actually, actually I'm gonna

1213
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: say this from Anny. I'm gonna say, let's chat about

1214
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: from anica Ana. This is so much more my thing.

1215
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: Like I just I feel like I when I heard

1216
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: this and we played it through, I was like, yes,

1217
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: we are dancing. We're having fun, We're being stupid. We

1218
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: are on another planet, bitch. There is uh orchestral interludes. Yes,

1219
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: stand we are like. It's drama like, it is hard sounds.

1220
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: It's the god guy that we knew in love. We're

1221
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: introduced to and then we got to explore on Born

1222
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: this way it's her being um like the stars Born

1223
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: era is over, it's reminding you what she's all about.

1224
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: And to me, this album slaps the whole way through

1225
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: the Only my skip is replay replay I love and

1226
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: I don't even dislike it is. I'm just I don't.

1227
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't even skip it necessarily. It's just like it

1228
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: is a skip for me. But um, you know what

1229
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess my skip is. I mean I'm

1230
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: never listening to the damn Interarly, it's not even two

1231
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: in to nine one one. To say what uh sign

1232
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: it from above is ridiculous. Yeah, but how dare you

1233
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: disrespect I'm not even disrespecting. I'm just like, this doesn't

1234
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: this doesn't count. You know, you're absolutely I'm I'm wearing

1235
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm wearing what So it's okay? This this This is

1236
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: an example of Gaga trolling I think music, no big,

1237
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: it's being an alien. They're both being aliens. No, it's

1238
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: very why did you do that? It's very before I Cry,

1239
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: It's like before I cry. I mean, I think we

1240
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: don't talk about enough. The chorus on before I Cry

1241
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: from a Star was born being because I'm gonna cry.

1242
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, so stupid. Love it so funny and she

1243
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 1: knows how ridiculous it is. And melodramatic. One Thousand Doves,

1244
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a grower. I love One thousand Doves.

1245
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: Babylon is one of her best closures to Second to

1246
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: Edge of Glory. I would say this album, starting with

1247
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: CHROMATICA one, we are standing and then it goes into

1248
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: Alice and I'll be very real, and I'm saying this

1249
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: knowing that Justin is coming because he wrote with her.

1250
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know about the Alice in

1251
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: Wonderland Imagery because we've s we have we have done

1252
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: this before. But in terms of the house sound and

1253
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: the like, just this sound. I heard it being played outside.

1254
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: I was walking down the street and someone was blasting

1255
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 1: it and like I'm like, oh yeah, this is a

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01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: great it's a great song. It's a great track. I mean,

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01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: like the fact of the matter is, like I might

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01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: object to the themes, but because just because I've seen

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01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: them before, like most notably, like I always think of

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01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: Gwen Stefani. Um. But that's not to say that you

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01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 1: can't explore this just because it's territory or whatever. But

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01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 1: I love the song ultimately, Like I think that again,

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01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: it's a little weird to me that it's the first track.

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01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: I kind of think stupid Love should be the first track,

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01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: but um, but the song itself is great, and you

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01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: are in another planet when you get there, you know

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01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, I mean, I love that the

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01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: production on this album is like a weapon. I think

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01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 1: she she is someone who has never fucked up the

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01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: opener and I including on including Alison even chrammatical one,

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01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: let's say, because it leads into it, but think about it,

1272
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:57,719
Speaker 1: like just I Marry the Night, and then Diamond Hearts?

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01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: Are you love the Diamond Heart? Diamond Heart? And then

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01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: fucking Like and then Bad Romance obviously like she right,

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01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 1: Bad Romans is the opener ound on Fame Monster, I believe.

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01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Applause is likely the last track

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01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: on Our Pop, right, But that's the first track and

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01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 1: it's got some problematic lyrics, but I mean fucking phenomenal song,

1279
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 1: like like crazy, weird, weird or something. And then on

1280
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 1: the Fame it's um just dance, So it's like bees

1281
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: like she has never fucked up the first track on

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01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: any offerent albums. Let's just say that. Let's just also

1283
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: just notice, like see this is when we were talking

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01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: about folklore. We were like, I love this song. It's

1285
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: really good. And what's what's chromatica We're like, this is

1286
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: and this is more of the space I like to

1287
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: be in. Not to say that that means one album

1288
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: is better than the other. This is just I prefer

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01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: to be in the range of five to ten rather

1290
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 1: than one to five in terms of energy. Usually this

1291
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: is the space I prefer to be in. Like Stupid Love,

1292
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 1: I think is a fucking smash, like one of them

1293
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 1: lead singles. Yeah, we've we've talked about this song like

1294
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: I love the video and then rain on Me. I

1295
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: think it's a fucking iconic moment for culture. It's top

1296
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: moment of culture. It's made the list. Ariana kills it. Yeah,

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01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: and these remixes that are that have come out. Purple

1298
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: disco phenomenal. You gotta listen to it. Listen to this remix.

1299
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: So we've talked about these two songs that woman I

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01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: love I'm Afraid Water be Free. I love what you see.

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01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: This is the thing I mean, like those little things

1302
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: that I know that we would look at each other

1303
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: and be like be free, free, like stupid things like

1304
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: I just free woman is and everyone I always talked

1305
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: to is like a free woman. And I'm always saying, what,

1306
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 1: how could you hear I'm afraid water and not be

1307
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: like laughing your ass off and dancing at the same

1308
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: time a free Well may yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm

1309
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 1: a free woman, like just so so so simple and

1310
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: kind of stupid, but it's it's it's it's gotta okay.

1311
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: And then having fun tonight, oh so fun. Um cromatic

1312
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,919
Speaker 1: A two one icon iconically, I iconic. What's your favorite

1313
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,759
Speaker 1: one that you've seen smashed up as a meme on Twitter?

1314
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: You know, you want to know something. I was over

1315
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 1: it pretty quickly, and I just like every single one

1316
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 1: made me laugh. I guess, I guess, like honestly, and

1317
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: I know this. I know this sounds basic, basic, quote unquote,

1318
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: but it's like um. The first, like the perfect nexus

1319
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: was the meme and um like statues of colonizer colonizers

1320
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 1: being torn down, Like it took my breath away, like

1321
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 1: people taking down a statue of a colonizer and and

1322
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: just being like, oh my god, Like that's fun. It's dramatic,

1323
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 1: and it's also like I know I'm being like this

1324
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: is like this meets the moment, but like I don't

1325
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: know that. That's kind of like as soon as I

1326
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: saw that, I was like, great, okay, cool, Like, no

1327
01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: need to see like other ones, I'm gonna complete, No,

1328
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to be trashed and say my favorite one

1329
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: wash it went over a Lisa A. Rnna being like

1330
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: we're people doing coke in your bathroom? Yeah, and then

1331
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: like Kyle Richards gasping and them all like And then

1332
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: another one was when Lisa Ranna through the glass Like

1333
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: I just love TRAUMATICA two into nine one one anything

1334
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: Lisa Arena, that's you. Yeah, it's some even it's not

1335
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: even Beverly Hill, it's at least Arena, I mean icon

1336
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: who was celebrated today actually in a Buzzfeld article saying

1337
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: that Lisa Arenna is one of the best Beverly Hills

1338
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 1: cast members because she acts as a producer while creating content. Yes,

1339
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: she's one of she's one of the best House times.

1340
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: I would say, I think that she is iconic housewife

1341
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: and iconic person. And of course I identify as Lisa Arena.

1342
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: Of course I love it's like I just I think

1343
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: it's so computer e and like Robot gat guy and

1344
01:12:55,720 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: I confessed, um plastic doll. We love love it, um

1345
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: soura candy obsessed. Even though, do you think it's too

1346
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 1: similar to Swish Wish? Oh, I didn't make that connection.

1347
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think the Swish Wish was also House.

1348
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: I mean they're just they're just inspired, drawing from the

1349
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: same source material in a way, like you know, they're

1350
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: they're both like inspired by that era of like Robin

1351
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 1: S like House, and I get a little angry. Yeah,

1352
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: I love the Black Pink Girls, I love I love

1353
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: a K pop crossover Enigma, I love Yeah, I love

1354
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 1: Enigma replays. Yeah, what do you go? No, just just

1355
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: giving you pure like again, I'm gonna say it like House.

1356
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 1: It just it sounds like a Robin S song and

1357
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: like she's giving you vocals that are like um oh

1358
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: no um this is why I love Alice. I'm gonna

1359
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: go back to Alice because it sounds like Crystal Waters.

1360
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: It sounds like um gypsy Woman. It's just like it's

1361
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 1: just that and like it's it's just the DNA is

1362
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 1: like throughout the whole album of just like this specific

1363
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: sonic like take um replay we it's a skip. I

1364
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: just I don't love it, you know what I mean?

1365
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: And I love the second half of the album, but

1366
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 1: I just replayed. I was like the production on the

1367
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 1: chorus like like not not even like the actual lyrics,

1368
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: but it's like after she's saying the replayer replay and

1369
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: then there's like the oh, there's that warped vocal. It's great. Yeah,

1370
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's good. CREMATICA three from I love Sign

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01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: from Above. I think it's like the drag moment of

1372
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 1: the whole thing. And Elton John I saw one sign

1373
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: from Bob is gay baritone as stomping into the club.

1374
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 1: Oh my god, still got it it still Elton big

1375
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: fag um A thousand doves Listen, I love to make

1376
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: fun of a thousand. It a thousand enough, Uh, I mean,

1377
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,679
Speaker 1: come on, it's it's one of the only like it's

1378
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 1: it's one of, not the only, it's one of the

1379
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: most memorable hooks. I think, sure, sure, sure, um, and

1380
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 1: she's just screaming, I know. It's so it's camp, it's fun,

1381
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 1: it's it's silly, it's like classic Gaga. And then finally,

1382
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,759
Speaker 1: I mean, this is like black cheese som in fashion,

1383
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: like just like pure pure, like so like like the

1384
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: like heart of queer culture, like it's ballroom. It's like, so,

1385
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, I love it. I love it. I

1386
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: love it so much. Babylon. That's dossip is such a

1387
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: fun like that's gossip. It's so it's such a like

1388
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: a fun turn of phrase to throw in, and like

1389
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: it's just a way to identify the song of media.

1390
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's really, it's Pefrid Rodgers always does

1391
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: that in the middle of anyone's sentence. Who gossip. It's

1392
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 1: very funny every time. Time. Future guests, because you all

1393
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: should be listening to the rear Viewer Review. Yes, a

1394
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: new podcast brought to you by Grinder Lovely Grinder, which

1395
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: I was recently blocked and kicked off from because too

1396
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 1: many people were reporting my account as cat fishing and

1397
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: I had. Well, it's unfortunately me and I'm unfortunately, you know,

1398
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: shopping for I'm not I'm just window shopping. At this point,

1399
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: I can't even girl, you know who to contact to

1400
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 1: get back on Miss Rogers herself. No, I talked to

1401
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 1: some lovely person named Oliver Um and had to take

1402
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 1: a photo of me with a piece of paper that

1403
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: said some like that had my email address on it,

1404
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: so you know Oliver has anyway, anyway, I I do.

1405
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: We do support the podcast, which is yes, oh my god,

1406
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 1: please listen to Miss Monique cart, Miss Chester Lockhart, Miss

1407
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: j Jordan's and Miss Patrick Rogers, and we hope to

1408
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: have several of them on the podcast. Chester Chester is

1409
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: an icon. They're all icon. They're all Monique obviously an icon.

1410
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: J Jordan, we love Jay Jordan. We've been meaning to

1411
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: have on the podcast for ages. We love them. And

1412
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: we have to have my sister Patrick because it has

1413
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 1: we have to represent the House. I really want everyone

1414
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: to meet the House once. And I'm warning you guys

1415
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: like I would hear Matt and Patrick before I met Patrick,

1416
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: would here Matt use this term, throw around, this term

1417
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 1: the like house house, house h A U S And

1418
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: I'd be like, Okay, what's going on there? And then

1419
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 1: when you meet, when you see Matt and Patrick together,

1420
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 1: you go, that's house. That's the very house. There's a

1421
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 1: house energy. Its house energy, and you know it's really beautiful.

1422
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,839
Speaker 1: And I gotta say I'll save it for the episode

1423
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 1: when Patrick comes on, but I will preview my sentiment

1424
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 1: by saying, like, seeing you too, um be together was

1425
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: just like, okay, I can let macco. You know what

1426
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 1: you are sild that's that's that is not the way

1427
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: you felt. That is the way I felt tonight, and

1428
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 1: I felt you just fell. Though I would be taken

1429
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: care of in Los Angeles, you didn't feel letting me

1430
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: go stupid well, I mean, and you will never let

1431
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: me go. Those our companion thoughts and sentiments. You know,

1432
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 1: I will never let you go. If you let me go,

1433
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: I'll be really upset. I'll be really upset too. Should

1434
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: we move on? And I don't think so, honey, I

1435
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 1: think so. I think really upset me and Matt just

1436
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 1: wrapped on hot Dog and he is wearing his gorgeous

1437
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 1: robe with his name embroidered on it. I've never gotten

1438
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,600
Speaker 1: to wrap gifts like that, by the way, And slippers

1439
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: that with dogs heads as the slippers. Oh my god,

1440
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: that's so comfy. That is the north That's the biggest

1441
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: slip right seed in my life. Well, you know Jane

1442
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,600
Speaker 1: was fighting with the shoes. Oh Jane thought it was

1443
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 1: a dog. She thought, So I'm thinking about getting a dog.

1444
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: Is my announcement. I think you should get a dog. Oh.

1445
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty much time you have to energy,

1446
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 1: especially now that we're in the car, and I'm feeling

1447
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: like if I was going to get one, now would

1448
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: be a good time. Although you know, I was talking

1449
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 1: to Jess about this was the head judge on the show,

1450
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, is not a good time to

1451
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: adopt a dog? And because I was thinking, like, you

1452
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: don't want to adopt a dog and then have the

1453
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: dog think that you being around all the time is

1454
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: normal and not be able to socialize it correctly, because

1455
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 1: what I would hate to happen is for the dog

1456
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: to be confused when life restarts again and all of

1457
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 1: a sudden, I don't I don't. I don't want the

1458
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: dog to be anxious or have a complex that I'm

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01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,600
Speaker 1: leaving it. So would jest say She said that you

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01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 1: can that she agrees with that, but it's it is

1461
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,759
Speaker 1: ultimately a good time because you do need to focus

1462
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 1: a lot of time in the beginning on training the dog. UM,

1463
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 1: because I do want to get a young dog. I

1464
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: think I'm obviously going to adopt ar rescue dog, young dog,

1465
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: rescue dog, beautiful, beautiful coat, good performer, good performer, UM,

1466
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 1: but producer of hopefully out poop in the house and

1467
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: UM young producer UM and Matt's Baby, Matt's baby. You know,

1468
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a conversation were having with myself and

1469
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 1: those around me. But UM, you know, I have a

1470
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 1: lot of stuff around you. Around you you do you

1471
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 1: account chair matters. I think it would take very good

1472
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: care of it. Yes, I think I would too. I

1473
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 1: think I would like one that is an energy match

1474
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 1: for me. And I did see one on an h

1475
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 1: A website where and I think it was actually a

1476
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 1: hint that I should get him because his name was

1477
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 1: Richard and I would name him Dicky. Dicky, you you

1478
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: with the dog named Dickie is not even on the nose.

1479
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 1: It's just like it's just it's perfect. I don't know why.

1480
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: Dicky just seems it's just silly and fun for me

1481
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: to have a dog named Dicky is on the nose.

1482
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: It's because of my huge wiener um anyway, thinking about it,

1483
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: thinking about it. But while I think about it, we

1484
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: should do I don't think so, honey. Okay, this is

1485
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 1: our one minute segment where we rail on something in

1486
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: the culture for one minute. As I've said, Matt, you

1487
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: have something you had alluded to something earlier. I do. Okay,

1488
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: so this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey.

1489
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: As time starts now, I don't think so, honey. Y'all

1490
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: needing tailor stuff to be gay and continuing this gay

1491
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:22,719
Speaker 1: queer narrow please please stop, because if she were queer,

1492
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 1: I know we would know it because she would have

1493
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,679
Speaker 1: been unable to withhold it in her lyricism. And actually

1494
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 1: you're saying that tailor shift is queer and like hiding

1495
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: it from us. You're insulting her. You are insulting and

1496
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: assaulting her honesty in her music. And I would never

1497
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 1: do that as a tailor fan. You assault her when

1498
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 1: you do this. And let me just say this, I

1499
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, the whole tailor shift in Carli

1500
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 1: class narrative, because I don't think that she would date

1501
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: someone that was so I'm not even gonna call her anything.

1502
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I just don't think she would take

1503
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: Carli Class. I think that tailor stuff would date someone

1504
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: like I don't know, and not that color Class is

1505
01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 1: an interesting but interesting second. I don't know. I just

1506
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 1: think that Taylor Swift. To say that she's a lesbian

1507
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 1: and queer baiting is like an album cycle Ago, catch up.

1508
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 1: The new thing we're saying about Taylor is that she

1509
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: cooks soups and laying and try psychedelics. If you're gonna

1510
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: assert a narrative about her, it's that she's a drug user.

1511
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, anything else. And that's one minute, okay,

1512
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 1: So that's so. If you're gonna assert anything about her,

1513
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: let it be that she's a drug user. That's a

1514
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 1: rule of culture number seven. If you're gonna us I think.

1515
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't buy the Carly Class narrati. I don't buy it,

1516
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 1: never did. I don't ship them even I don't even

1517
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 1: care if they're um but so boring. I think that

1518
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 1: she is still queering her music, even though she's not

1519
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: herself gay. She is definitely looking like a little Lesbian.

1520
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 1: In the Spotify videos that played during the song, she

1521
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 1: definitely is wearing her hair in a way that I

1522
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: would describe as questioning. I think she is just expanding

1523
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: her parameters of her gender expression, and that's and that's lovely.

1524
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 1: She's literally expressing her gender differently in Betty, Let's say. Okay,

1525
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 1: So I think that's different than than than expressing her

1526
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 1: queerness or queer bathing. I think it's I think it's artistic,

1527
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,560
Speaker 1: and I think that she is being a storytelling in

1528
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 1: the purest form. I'm very facetiously being like she's a lesbian.

1529
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 1: She's a lesbian obviously, non she's not, and you know

1530
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,919
Speaker 1: whatever that that's not for me to label and designate.

1531
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 1: But I think she is doing a fun queering of

1532
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 1: her songwriting. We need to have Jill on the show.

1533
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 1: We need to have Jill on the show, because we're

1534
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: gonna have We're gonna have Jill on Um. I'm just

1535
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 1: saying that she is like she is like dipping her

1536
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 1: toe into like a different gender expression. That's that's that's

1537
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 1: into it into a like expanded gender expression, that's all,

1538
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: which is great. I just think once it gets caught

1539
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 1: up in a sensationalist narrative about whether or not she's queer.

1540
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 1: I I'm not with it. In the year of our

1541
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 1: Lord one, I don't think this should be as big

1542
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 1: of a deal. And I think that she'd be honest

1543
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: about it, because I think she's been honest about so

1544
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 1: much recently that why would she withhold that from us

1545
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 1: when she understands the um importance that her words and

1546
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,560
Speaker 1: actions hold. Now you know what I mean. Sure, The

1547
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: way that people like Jill are writing about it on

1548
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 1: Vulture is in a very facetious Oh my god, No,

1549
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: Jill is not. Jill is being fun about it and

1550
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 1: being a sleuth about it is a lesbian sleuth. You,

1551
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: as always are being a sensationalist. And I've been saying

1552
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 1: this about you for years. You're a sensationalist, and you

1553
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: your aim is to make money. I believe that you

1554
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: are in this industry to make money off of the

1555
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 1: foibles of others. I think that's why you go to SNL,

1556
01:24:58,360 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: and that that's why you asked them to be on

1557
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 1: the show. And I think you asked them to show.

1558
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 1: You asked SNL if you could be on the show,

1559
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: and they said, because you wanted to go out there

1560
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 1: and portray money off the foibles of other people. You

1561
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: wanted to make money off the foibles of other people,

1562
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 1: and that is how SNL works. That is works. You

1563
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: asked them to be on. Yeah, with an agenda with

1564
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 1: you have a queer agenda. I have to say something.

1565
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: Boen Yang has a very queer agenda, which is crazy

1566
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: because he's white and straight. And I keep saying this,

1567
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what your end game is, but I

1568
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 1: am it's um, It's just it's all subterfuge. I'm not

1569
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 1: who I seem. I never mean what I say, and

1570
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: that's true. Okay, look mirrors down down boots. Okay, let's go.

1571
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 1: Let's go this. Are you gonna You're gonna leave me in? No? Yes,

1572
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 1: this is bone Yang. I don't think so, honey. And

1573
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 1: his one minute starts now, I don't think so, honey.

1574
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers not saying a peep about Charlie X. The

1575
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 1: X is quarantine album. What I'm feeling now it is

1576
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 1: I think it beats out folklore as like a quarantine work.

1577
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 1: She wrote, produced, recorded that album in what like four

1578
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: weeks time, and and I think it's one of her

1579
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 1: best works. Oh my god, it is so phenomenal. The

1580
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 1: songwriting is so experimental. And she, she is, She is

1581
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: the one to watch. She is the future of pop.

1582
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 1: She is like expanding the parameters. I'll say that, I'll

1583
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: use that phrase again. And you have been silent on her?

1584
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 1: Have you seen her life? I have seen her live.

1585
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 1: Actually I don't think I have, but I keep going,

1586
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: keep going, stop it, don't I don't think so, honey,

1587
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 1: Oh let me, let me, let me do a two parter.

1588
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so many people who think that seeing

1589
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 1: an artist live grants that any sort of legitimacy and

1590
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 1: their standing, when obviously some of us are casual listeners

1591
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 1: and go see them even don't give a ship about

1592
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 1: when their quarantine album drops. I'm gonna give you some

1593
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: more a masterpiece. So I've seen, I have, I I

1594
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: stand plenty of artists, so I've never seen live, and

1595
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: I've seen plenty of artists live who I don't care

1596
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 1: for at all. And that's one minute. What do let

1597
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: me tell you something right now. I actually haven't heard

1598
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 1: the new Charlie ex and why not because I was

1599
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: depressed at the time, and so I are all of us.

1600
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 1: Everyone does depression differently stupid and you should know that,

1601
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: and you should know that. You should know it, and

1602
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 1: I will listen to it because I love Charlie. And

1603
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 1: what's ther whole thing about seeing her life? Because I

1604
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: have seen her life. I've actually paid the dollars to

1605
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: support the girl. And so you did you pay the dollars?

1606
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: Or did someone or someone like, hey, man, I have

1607
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 1: an extra ticket to Charlie. How foolish a question to

1608
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:37,639
Speaker 1: ask on this? I think that's dad, That's actually what happened.

1609
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 1: What happened was it was actually bought for me, but

1610
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 1: I then mode the person who bought it. Okay, why

1611
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 1: you didn't actually, like, like go about the task of

1612
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: buying a ticket to see her show? Literally, I did

1613
01:27:55,320 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: spend here's how, here's how. No, No, because I didn't.

1614
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: You didn't go after the tickets dropped and was like,

1615
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 1: I I was told there be a concert of Charlie

1616
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 1: xc X. What does that mean? Would you like to go?

1617
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:16,600
Speaker 1: If that's not true? I've actually so thank you for

1618
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: reminding me. No, thank you for reminding me that I've

1619
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 1: seen her twice because I saw her and go westfest.

1620
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 1: We want to go see Troy performance festivals don't know

1621
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: it did because she was one of the top three

1622
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 1: reasons I went. I went for Troy, Kim and Charlie

1623
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 1: and also shut up so and I want to go

1624
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 1: see Charlie on her own tour, which Jared said, would

1625
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 1: you like to go? I said absolutely yes, and I

1626
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 1: then want him for the tickets, so yes, I did pay. Now,

1627
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:43,600
Speaker 1: why haven't I listened to the new album because it

1628
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 1: wasn't released in like a major way. I didn't know

1629
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 1: about it, and at the time I was feeling depressed.

1630
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 1: And I feel that I will be given the space

1631
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 1: now to go listen to it and not deal with

1632
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 1: any grief from you. Miss Oh my god, you are

1633
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 1: tuning out like such huge cultures on the internet who

1634
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 1: like we're eating with abated breath for this album to drop.

1635
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:05,639
Speaker 1: You have no idea to stand. Um, I the scale

1636
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 1: of that, and I am part of it. I just

1637
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 1: haven't listened to that one album. Sometimes you know how

1638
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 1: I am, You know who I am, You know I

1639
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: know how you are. I tell you this thing is

1640
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 1: really cool, you should check it out, and you say maybe,

1641
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,640
Speaker 1: and you never know. It's not that, It's just that

1642
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,640
Speaker 1: whenever I have a new album coming out, and I

1643
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: feel like I need time, Like, for example, why haven't

1644
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: you talked about DUA because that was like four or

1645
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: five months ago. No, you still haven't said anything. I

1646
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 1: have publicly talked about do on my own platforms. You

1647
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,799
Speaker 1: have on your own platforms, Yes, on my own platforms.

1648
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 1: We are too independent people with our own independence in

1649
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: spheres of influence. I'm not hearing enough DOA. I'm not.

1650
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm not hearing enough. I'm not. This is the thing

1651
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: is that Ellen Pump didn't even really say it in

1652
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 1: that way that we you have like revisionist. Let her say,

1653
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm not She'm not seeing enough color. This is the

1654
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 1: way she said it, and I'm not seeing enough color.

1655
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 1: But we have like twitters and we made it into

1656
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing in this color, which I which I

1657
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 1: wish is how she said it, which I wish is

1658
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: how she said it. The jury is out on how

1659
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 1: she said it. No one can ever know, and we

1660
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 1: can never know. You have about quickly talk about this

1661
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 1: being a music episode the smash Holiday by Little Mix.

1662
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you all out there, readers, it's actually really

1663
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:41,720
Speaker 1: important that you don't sleep on Little Mix. You don't

1664
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 1: sleep on Little Mix and can I give a shout

1665
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 1: out to ho Why is you here? By Flow Millie

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Speaker 1: the twenty year old nineteen year old at the time

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Speaker 1: of recording vonder Kind. There are some There's a track

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Speaker 1: called Pussycat Doll Matt you have to listen to it.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're gonna let it. She's like giving

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Speaker 1: you full on. I think an amazing mixtape anyway, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: another song that I still gets lost in the conversation

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Speaker 1: is reacted by the Pussycat Dolls who are And I

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Speaker 1: feel like that's a fucking track and a half and

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Speaker 1: Patrol is serving on it and the video is you

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Speaker 1: can't believe how they look. I haven't seen the video.

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Speaker 1: I will check. Oh my god, Bowen it is a

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Speaker 1: vagina to the sky. It's crazy so um that and also, oh,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, there's one more. There's one more that

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Speaker 1: I don't want to miss. Fuck fuck uh, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of good stuff. Oh, Chloe and Halle we gotta level. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're slaying, and you know what we're getting very soon?

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Speaker 1: Black is King. Black is King. This Friday even we're

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Speaker 1: talking about an album of the year that could be

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Speaker 1: entirely women and we love that chromatica folklore probably the

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Speaker 1: front runner. No, but let me watch they'll give it

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Speaker 1: to chain smokers who are canceled now by the way

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Speaker 1: after their certainly will not give it to chain smokers

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Speaker 1: now I'm kidding. Um, and any other little culture that

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Speaker 1: you want to touch on, know, I mean, I was

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Speaker 1: excited that this is gonna be music focused when I think,

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Speaker 1: I mean music is kind of the the thing that

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Speaker 1: I think we're all sort of enjoying collectively on the

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Speaker 1: same level. Uh we in the Royal we let's give

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Speaker 1: it up to Will Ferrell, our daddy, for charting charting

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Speaker 1: with the song who'sa Vic from Eurovision the film something

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Speaker 1: that was successful ye on Netflix. We Love We Love

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Speaker 1: you Will Ferrell. Check them out if you haven't already. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's the culture I want to talk about. Well,

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Speaker 1: we love this episode of music and um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I thank you. I think you're going on a musical journey.

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Speaker 1: I see where you are on the East Coast. It's

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Speaker 1: sort of getting a little darker, a little bit dark darker,

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Speaker 1: a little bit darker, and here you know, it's merely five.

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Speaker 1: I I hope you are enjoying your time of rest.

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Speaker 1: You've you've, you've, You've been through a lot of uh

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Speaker 1: strain and work, and I'm so excited to see this project.

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Speaker 1: I look for it. I think it's gonna be great.

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Speaker 1: I can wait and you can be looking for that one.

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Speaker 1: And to quote say Winfield from the Real House Eves

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Speaker 1: of Atlanta More September, more, September more, September more, Summer

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Speaker 1: more September, Joggers Joggers more September. I watched there was

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Speaker 1: a thread on Twitter which was um the best like

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Speaker 1: single Real Houses of Atlanta lines and who don't check

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Speaker 1: is never never ever gonna be lost? I love um

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Speaker 1: Kenya going It's time to die, It's time to die.

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Speaker 1: Also the iconic is the iconic needed close your legs

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Speaker 1: to marry trash bag? Who said that? Who said that?

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Speaker 1: Who said that? Also who said that? I mean iconic, iconic,

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Speaker 1: all iconic. And also them explaining to Porsche that the

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Speaker 1: underground railroad was not a real railroad. When we let's

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Speaker 1: shout out miss Derek. But we're gonna talk about Grace

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Speaker 1: in a couple episodes or maybe the next episode. But

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Speaker 1: m let's shout out Derek Barry for wearing a shirt

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Speaker 1: in the finale that said nobody died, nobody was killed.

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Speaker 1: No one was killed, nobody was killed. I mean, maybe

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Speaker 1: she's an iconic We love Derek and I guess yeah.

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Speaker 1: On the next episode, which you'll have to tune in

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Speaker 1: to wind out what it is, we will UM. I

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Speaker 1: feel like that's alluding to the fact that it's going

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Speaker 1: to be one of the queens. It's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: one of the queens. However, we are having one of

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Speaker 1: the queens on, one of the iconic queens, one of

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Speaker 1: the winners of drag Race is going to be on.

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Speaker 1: UM won't spoil it, but they're coming and we're so excited,

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Speaker 1: and uh, we'll talk more about drag Race in the

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Speaker 1: next episode and probably the one after. UM, so lots

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Speaker 1: of talk about that. And in the meantime, we're celebrating

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Speaker 1: shak whole and also giving big ups to Juju b

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Speaker 1: and Mr christ as well. They were amazing. That was

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Speaker 1: great and they were there, incredible queens. But yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: she deserved that one all the way. And as we

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Speaker 1: always do, will close out with the song I can

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Speaker 1: see do you know the words? In time? And you

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Speaker 1: never mind He's twisted it Oh, it's such a beautiful son.

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Speaker 1: It's really good. Hey, if you have an stream folklore

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Speaker 1: by Taylor Swift, we get a cut of the stream dollars.

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Speaker 1: Just kidding, we don't, I wish we did. And also

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Speaker 1: just an announcement, I'm not releasing a folklore album, so

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Speaker 1: don't stop asking it for it. I was released, I

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Speaker 1: released the Love. Can't make fun of folklore. It's not

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Speaker 1: there's no hook for the next one, for the next

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Speaker 1: album in like three years. I almost did one that

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Speaker 1: was like no one knows this, but she actually did

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Speaker 1: a folklore she was She started recording this folklore in

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Speaker 1: in May, but she also recorded an entire album in February.

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Speaker 1: In March and April when Quarantine first started. Here is

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Speaker 1: that album. I almost did that. That's really good, and

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Speaker 1: it was just going to be well, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'll still do it. You should still do it.

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Speaker 1: And then now that you've said that, the fans will,

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Speaker 1: the readers will score. So okay, now for real, let's

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Speaker 1: close out with this song. Okay, um, he said it's good.

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Speaker 1: Drave at us wait, wait for hell hell, Now this

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Speaker 1: is getting good. Listen to the rest of that. You

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Speaker 1: listen to night to maybe nine might for the track

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Speaker 1: is wow is Jeeves