Speaker 1: Hey, let me ask you a question. Are you someone
Speaker 1: who believes music can change the world. If so, then
Speaker 1: my guest today I love someone. Delilah is definitely someone
Speaker 1: you already know but might want to get to know
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Katie Perry is a major superstar,
Speaker 1: of course, and has so many hit songs that I
Speaker 1: lost count. But you know what, She's so much more
Speaker 1: than that. She's a real person. She is extremely down
Speaker 1: to earth. She's carrying and kind. A couple of years back,
Speaker 1: we connected for the first time, and I was surprised
Speaker 1: to know that growing up she listened to my show
Speaker 1: every night. She shared with me that my message and
Speaker 1: my music had actually had an impact with her. She
Speaker 1: had big dreams and a whole lot of faith, and
Speaker 1: you know what, she still does. You just never know
Speaker 1: how your life, or your words, or your love might
Speaker 1: impact another. I can think of no better guests at
Speaker 1: this moment in time than a megastar who admits that
Speaker 1: her toes need painting. Her soul is shaken and her
Speaker 1: heart is full for all who suffered deeply through this pandemic.
Speaker 1: Her belly is also full, but not with food, but
Speaker 1: rather with a beautiful baby. She is so excited for.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about love the importance of connecting
Speaker 1: and just how much music is the true universal healing language.
Speaker 1: Welcome to love someone. My friend Katie Perry, Hello, beautiful,
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm so excited for you? Can you
Speaker 1: see it? Still? See your toes? Um? I can see
Speaker 1: my toes, but I'm I would say that I can't
Speaker 1: see other things. Your knees, your knees. You can't see
Speaker 1: your knees. I'm so blessed and so thrilled to get
Speaker 1: to talk to Katie Perry. And Katie, I gotta know, like,
Speaker 1: can you see the tonail polish? Can you see your pedicure? Pedicure, pedicure? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But you know what I was thinking speaking of pedicures,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about tweeting the other day. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you guys, show me the state of your feet, and
Speaker 1: I'll show you the state of my feet right now.
Speaker 1: Or is that too much information? Oh? No, no, no no.
Speaker 1: When you're pregnant, you get to do anything, any dang
Speaker 1: thing you want. It's it's a permission card. Exactly a
Speaker 1: lot of us have I think all of us haven't
Speaker 1: had access to our regulars. You know, little little moments
Speaker 1: of manicures and pedicures and they you know, they they're
Speaker 1: definitely in a state right now. That's what Orlando is for.
Speaker 1: Is he not taking care of your feet? Because my husband,
Speaker 1: and God bless him, actually gave me a little petty
Speaker 1: he did, he did. How long have you guys been married. Well,
Speaker 1: this is a funny story. We've been married what eight
Speaker 1: years now together thirteen, But we've never lived together until
Speaker 1: COVID because he's under contract in another state and I'm
Speaker 1: under contract and have my studio and so we have
Speaker 1: a commuter marriage, but we've never actually lived under the
Speaker 1: same roof until COVID hit. Yeah, so it's like we're newlyweds. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: when are you giving you a pedicure? Obviously? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: kind of nice. I'm not even pregnant with his child.
Speaker 1: So see, you should You should talk to your honey
Speaker 1: and say, sweetheart, Paul did this for Delilah. Come on,
Speaker 1: help help a girlfriend out. He's doing really, really good
Speaker 1: under you know, despite the circumstances and all things considered
Speaker 1: with what's going on in the world. He's being a
Speaker 1: great partner and being you know, more sensitive than than
Speaker 1: ever and knows that like I, I will crack at
Speaker 1: the drop of a hat. I will crack like you know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll just crack over the stupidest things. And uh,
Speaker 1: I was. I was driving away, um, going to the
Speaker 1: grocery store, and I was just like crying, and he
Speaker 1: was and he was waving by it. I was just crying.
Speaker 1: On on top of everything being so intense, I get
Speaker 1: an extra access to my emotions through via my femones.
Speaker 1: Well there there is that. But I gotta tell you
Speaker 1: it's it's never going to go away. Now. Did anyone
Speaker 1: warn you of this? Now that you are a mom,
Speaker 1: it doesn't go away once the baby is born. You
Speaker 1: are always going to be a hot mess when it
Speaker 1: comes to anything having to do with your child. Did
Speaker 1: you know? Did they warn you of that? I've always
Speaker 1: been a hot mess. You've made me cry when you
Speaker 1: released Never Wore White and and released to the world
Speaker 1: that that you're going to be a mama. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought it was a perfect way to share the news.
Speaker 1: It's through music. I mean, that's how I communicate with people,
Speaker 1: and um, this was a big massage to send. You've
Speaker 1: somehow managed to slay me once again with music. And
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about that when we come back,
Speaker 1: and what a beautifully beautifully shot and choreographed and lit
Speaker 1: and everything the the visual I'm more like, I'm into lyrics,
Speaker 1: you know, So a lot of times I don't like
Speaker 1: videos because if the video is distracting me from the
Speaker 1: story of the lyrics, I hate it, UM, because I
Speaker 1: want to hear what you're saying. And but with Never
Speaker 1: Were White, Oh my gosh, Katie, it was so beautiful.
Speaker 1: You're so beautiful. Thank you. You know, you take lyrics
Speaker 1: and you wear them on a t shirt, you inscribe
Speaker 1: them on the inside of wedding bands. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you have them on a tomb stone. I mean, they
Speaker 1: are the final mark. Lyrics are the most important, UM.
Speaker 1: And if you can get the right combination of melody
Speaker 1: and and music underneath, then that's golden. But you know,
Speaker 1: we just wanted the lyrics to shine because the because
Speaker 1: the lyrics are so meaningful and this is it's such
Speaker 1: a moment in my own personal life that I really
Speaker 1: wanted to share and be an open book with my
Speaker 1: fans about. And I didn't want them to, like you said,
Speaker 1: I didn't want them to be distracted there wasn't a
Speaker 1: need for them to have, you know, any extra sugar
Speaker 1: on the track. It just you needed to hear what
Speaker 1: was being said. And that song came out, and then
Speaker 1: COVID came down. And how many uh weeks have you
Speaker 1: and Orlando been quarantined? Did you actually like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: I came back from Australia. I actually I was in Australia. Um.
Speaker 1: It was I think March twelve when it was announced
Speaker 1: that Tom Hanks and his wife Rita had COVID and
Speaker 1: they were they were also there, right, they were in
Speaker 1: Australia at the time. Um. And then and I was
Speaker 1: supposed to do I remember specifically, I was promoting Never
Speaker 1: Worn White. Than I realized, oh, I'm about to do
Speaker 1: a full day of press, and then they called they
Speaker 1: canceled all the press because like one of the press
Speaker 1: people that I was supposed to sit down and have
Speaker 1: an interview with had just had dinner with Tom Hanks.
Speaker 1: Come to find out, later tested positive but obviously has
Speaker 1: um um healed from it, which is good. But I
Speaker 1: was staying at the same hotel that they were staying
Speaker 1: at three days prior, so I was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is getting real, and you know, it's been it's been
Speaker 1: a gamut of emotions. It's been up and down, and
Speaker 1: there was a lot of insane feelings in those first
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Um. And you know, I think we
Speaker 1: can all all kind of see the light at the
Speaker 1: end of the tunnel. Possibly, Um, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the future holds. And they talk about a second wave, Um,
Speaker 1: it's you know, we are suffering from the loss of
Speaker 1: certainty for sure. And you're expecting and I I have
Speaker 1: a daughter that's expecting and a daughter in law that's expecting,
Speaker 1: and they're like, Mom, What's what's going to happen when
Speaker 1: I have to go to labor. What's gonna happen here?
Speaker 1: What's going to happen there? And I said, Honey, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I do know the one who created
Speaker 1: that baby in your womb, and I'm going to put
Speaker 1: my trust in him. And I think you need to
Speaker 1: do the same thing because what else can you do? Right? Well,
Speaker 1: my I mean my mom is similar. She she wakes
Speaker 1: up and just she goes into her bathroom and is
Speaker 1: in the bathtub just praying for an hour every day.
Speaker 1: Or my my dad, you know, goes up to the
Speaker 1: mountains in my home town of Santa Barbara and just
Speaker 1: praised for an hour every morning. And I'm grateful for
Speaker 1: those prayers, especially in a time like this. And Orlando
Speaker 1: and I, you know, he chants every morning for an hour.
Speaker 1: He's got a Buddhist practice and we pray. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's definitely the the last thing that we do in
Speaker 1: the first thing that we do. Um and put in
Speaker 1: that practice more even more so these days. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's an it's another level, it's
Speaker 1: another layer of uncertainty. Um. And I mean for me,
Speaker 1: I just had to take it one day at a
Speaker 1: time and trust in you know, the professionals and um,
Speaker 1: you know, not like I have to kind of go
Speaker 1: with the flow as far as planning goes. I'm grateful
Speaker 1: that I didn't have to give birth last month. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm like those women that did our heroes and especially
Speaker 1: having a child for the first time, you have no
Speaker 1: idea what to compare it to. But I have to
Speaker 1: put my faith entire power. I have to uh surrender
Speaker 1: in a way. And I'm in my studio now that
Speaker 1: my engineer came down on March tent and built in
Speaker 1: my husband's barn, and it's in the loft of the barn,
Speaker 1: a barn that's got you know, six dolls from my
Speaker 1: horses and goats and dogs downstairs, and I've got twenty
Speaker 1: baby chicks outside the room that is my studio. We
Speaker 1: made the studio sound proof using you know those blankets
Speaker 1: that movers use when they move furniture, like if they
Speaker 1: come and move here, the blue blankets. I bought thirty
Speaker 1: of those and I stapled them inside the barn to
Speaker 1: kind of give a sound cushion to my studio. And
Speaker 1: I've got paper towels taped over the barn lights because
Speaker 1: they're fluorescent, ugly, harsh barn lns. And I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, what am I gonna do? Everyone is their
Speaker 1: own mcgiver right now. I kind of like that though.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of loving being the diver survival of the
Speaker 1: professional fittest. And I'm putting a record out this summer,
Speaker 1: and you know, just really Daisies, which is the first
Speaker 1: song off of the record, and you know, it's not
Speaker 1: gonna be a normal record cycle or promotion cycle where
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be out there being able to fans and
Speaker 1: travel and um, you know, I had to make that
Speaker 1: decision either put it out now or delay until next year.
Speaker 1: And I was like, look, I'm how about a child,
Speaker 1: but one thing for certain, and I'm gonna go into
Speaker 1: another version of my own personal quarantine. And um, I've
Speaker 1: been you know, I've been writing this body of work
Speaker 1: for two years now, and I think that by summertime,
Speaker 1: we're all gonna want to Like, we already want to dance.
Speaker 1: We already have ants in our pants. We want to dance,
Speaker 1: whether we'll be dancing at home, dancing in the streets,
Speaker 1: dancing in the parks, we want to dance. People, you
Speaker 1: want to listen to music. People want to be lifted
Speaker 1: up and inspired. Right. D D my girlfriend d D
Speaker 1: who's my office manager, but she's also my oldest and
Speaker 1: dearest friend. We've been friends since we were nine years old.
Speaker 1: She put a post on social media the other day
Speaker 1: that just said, when all else fails and nothing else matters,
Speaker 1: music remains that great. You know, It's really gotten me
Speaker 1: through some dark times. And these times have been dark.
Speaker 1: And well, I my husband and I just adopted a
Speaker 1: teenager last year. In fact, her adoption was finalized a
Speaker 1: week before two weeks before the COVID quarantine hit, we
Speaker 1: were in another state. We were in Missouri finalizing her adoption.
Speaker 1: She's been in foster care for years and just had
Speaker 1: a really tough go of it. And when she heard
Speaker 1: I got to interview you today, she said, Mom, please
Speaker 1: tell her that our dance team, every song that we
Speaker 1: chose was one of her songs, and please tell her
Speaker 1: how her music got me through the toughest times in
Speaker 1: my life. So Brier just wanted you to know. And this,
Speaker 1: this kid, she's so beautiful. She has been through hell
Speaker 1: and and she's still standing and she's still dancing. So uh,
Speaker 1: Usually I'm struggling with something emotionally or just you know,
Speaker 1: in my own little tunnel, and it's really like something
Speaker 1: inside of me. I think my soul is writing this
Speaker 1: song and reminding me that I have and can you know,
Speaker 1: get through whatever I'm going through and I can continue
Speaker 1: to put one ft in front of the other. And
Speaker 1: and and Daisy's was a song I wrote in February
Speaker 1: actually basically just about you know, all all the noise
Speaker 1: and all the laughter and eye rolling that comes along
Speaker 1: with having a big dream. Um for me, it was
Speaker 1: you know, it came from my friends and family when
Speaker 1: I was when I was in my team years, when
Speaker 1: I would tell them that this is what my dream
Speaker 1: is and this is how I'm going to execute it
Speaker 1: and this is what I'm going to do when I
Speaker 1: you know, grow up. And I mean I still continued
Speaker 1: in my life from the comments on social media to
Speaker 1: um whatever, you know, the media of what they think
Speaker 1: that I should be or sound like, or what I'm
Speaker 1: what I am doing right or what I am doing wrong.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the noise never stops, but during quarantine
Speaker 1: because the amount of time we've all had reflected and
Speaker 1: maybe being that we've taken things for granted that you know,
Speaker 1: maybe we've taken our dreams for granted or we put
Speaker 1: them on the shelf in a box in the attic
Speaker 1: and you realize, oh, what when did I give us
Speaker 1: all my dreams? And why? And um, I think for me,
Speaker 1: it's like I never knew that the chance or opportunity
Speaker 1: would be taken away from me, like it has the freedom.
Speaker 1: And when we get that freedom back, I hope that
Speaker 1: people are ready to go after living their best life
Speaker 1: possible in a new way. You know, yeah, amen to that,
Speaker 1: Well you are going to I gotta tell you, I
Speaker 1: started to say this earlier. Your world is about to
Speaker 1: be blown apart with this baby that God has blessed
Speaker 1: you with. Because from now on, as soon as as
Speaker 1: soon as this baby enters the world, your heart is
Speaker 1: going to be walking around outside of your body. My God,
Speaker 1: somebody said that to me before my firstborn was born,
Speaker 1: and I didn't didn't really process it. And the minute
Speaker 1: he was born, those words came back to me and
Speaker 1: I went, oh my gosh. And as soon as I could,
Speaker 1: I called my mom and I said, I I Am
Speaker 1: so sorry. She's like, so sorry for what on? He said,
Speaker 1: I didn't know how much you loved me. That make
Speaker 1: me cry out My last pair of false sight last year.
Speaker 1: You know you can order them off Amazon. I've been alright, Sweetie,
Speaker 1: Thank you God, bless you go. I want to thank
Speaker 1: Katy Perry one more time. What a beautiful, loving young
Speaker 1: woman she is. I hope this podcast episode and all
Speaker 1: of my podcast episodes inspire you to reach out and
Speaker 1: love someone right now. Learn more about Katie and her
Speaker 1: new song and video Daisies at Katie Perry dot com