Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast is absolutely certain your team
Speaker 1: will nail free agency. Where I'm the Chris Westling podcast studio,
Speaker 1: It's around the NFL. I am Dan Hansis. I have
Speaker 1: heroes here. I do Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler. Free
Speaker 1: agency is around the Corner Boys, the Greg Rosenthal Top
Speaker 1: one oh one conversation on this show today live on
Speaker 1: NFL dot com Monday. And I've been thinking, Mark, I
Speaker 1: did some real thought about this exciting. So we're doing
Speaker 1: our competing and I just want to make it clear.
Speaker 1: This is not about one upsmanship of you, Greg, It's
Speaker 1: not None of this is personal. This is just business.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Competing would indicate it's a little I don't know our element,
Speaker 2: but the point of a competent to win, not to lose, right.
Speaker 1: But it's business. You ever hear that term. It's business,
Speaker 1: not personal. It's a bit. This is business. So this
Speaker 1: is what I'm thinking Mark. Greg has a one on one,
Speaker 1: He's got one hundred and one blurbs. We wanted to
Speaker 1: go bigger, and at one point I asked a big
Speaker 1: funk behind the glass to contact the union and find
Speaker 1: out how many free agency were. Maybe we'll do them
Speaker 1: all that seems even for us and what our ambitions
Speaker 1: are a little bit over the top. So then I
Speaker 1: was checking out the PFF, which is a widely respected
Speaker 1: analytics based football website. If you're not a waste, they
Speaker 1: put out a free agency two hundred okay, So now
Speaker 1: we have a baseline to work off. Now I would say,
Speaker 1: should we do a freegency two to oh one? But no,
Speaker 1: because what I want and tell me if you agree, okay,
Speaker 1: this is our joint past. I want people to say that,
Speaker 1: oh wow, Dan and Mark did well over one hundred
Speaker 1: more than Greg. And then I thought what would what
Speaker 1: would be well over one hundred and I came down
Speaker 1: to the number two hundred and thirteen. Okay, So total
Speaker 1: the free agent two hundred and thirteen okay. And then
Speaker 1: I was thinking, we got to blurb them all out,
Speaker 1: because like PFF did one hundred and fifty blurbs, Greg's
Speaker 1: one will go to one hundred and one. Did you
Speaker 1: do you do one hundred and one blurbs?
Speaker 2: We deftually do much more because you end up using
Speaker 2: like one hundred and twenty people.
Speaker 3: It's probably about well.
Speaker 1: What lives on the side is one on one? We
Speaker 1: Ai that bitch, and then we get so we get
Speaker 1: all that, and then what we do is we then
Speaker 1: go in let's say, in the top fifty, and we
Speaker 1: just little hens this like pop culture interjected in little
Speaker 1: little zuzzer humor. And then Cess Dog with his sesslerisms
Speaker 1: and somen of some of.
Speaker 2: His like in the Deep Dark Night Marcus Davenport, you know.
Speaker 3: Right, we and mostly the topics on edge about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he sees this is a good play. I put
Speaker 1: thought into it. So you put some sesslersm and some
Speaker 1: turns of phrase in there in the top fifty because
Speaker 1: most people stop reading after that. Then last step, and
Speaker 1: this is the most important. Do we preempt Greg? We
Speaker 1: get out before Monday? Yeah? No. Do we put it
Speaker 1: out right after Greg? No? We do the Mayock move?
Speaker 1: Remember Mayok. Everyone was like, oh, Mack seventy four, he
Speaker 1: did one mock draft. It was like the day before
Speaker 1: the draft, we put out one. We drop it a
Speaker 1: couple days before free agency, the illegal tampering period, and
Speaker 1: that's becomes what everyone's truly waiting for. What do you think?
Speaker 4: I think, first of all, I appreciate the fact that
Speaker 4: I had not even thought about this list in the
Speaker 4: interim between our last show. But you have put a
Speaker 4: lot of thought into it, quite I have. I can
Speaker 4: tell you off from proof. I've been AI in articles
Speaker 4: since roughly twenty twenty one, and it's got the technology
Speaker 4: has gotten better, So I think it won't be hard
Speaker 4: for us to player in some of our own little
Speaker 4: spice and jazz and no one will know.
Speaker 1: Except for mostly in the top fifty.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Then yeah, you get down on the little on and
Speaker 4: regreg gets to the one sentence blurbs when you get
Speaker 4: real low.
Speaker 2: Oh sure. And then one of the things I like
Speaker 2: about this plane because you guys are so passionate about it,
Speaker 2: and so you you would obviously know this that with
Speaker 2: all the cuts yes, and all the last minute signings,
Speaker 2: that list is changing more than ever right up until
Speaker 2: always moved. And so that last four or five days
Speaker 2: of you like you can make your list now, but
Speaker 2: you're going to be working feverishly keeping up with all
Speaker 2: the transactions and signings and and things added to the
Speaker 2: lists and changing around and really meeting together quite a
Speaker 2: bit in those final forty eight hours. I actually am
Speaker 2: kind of glad I'm getting mine done out of the
Speaker 2: way now, because that I suit you that that would only,
Speaker 2: you know, require someone who really loves the game.
Speaker 1: Because I'm in deep right now you're trying to get
Speaker 1: shake Cessler out of the project. That could tell it's
Speaker 1: a convincing effort by But I don't think he understands
Speaker 1: the powers of AI and how much we'll lean into
Speaker 1: that to be tracking.
Speaker 3: All this right on our behalf we've got.
Speaker 1: You know you didn't think about that, Greg.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, sky, should I put him ahead of
Speaker 2: Tierre Tart or not? Like that's waky? You know someone's
Speaker 2: calling you at eleven pm from the news desk, or actually,
Speaker 2: do you have a method to actually produce this anywhere?
Speaker 1: Or do you think we doth protest too much?
Speaker 4: I do think there could be some fair questions about
Speaker 4: like tangibly getting approval to have this on our website.
Speaker 3: You just that we've been right.
Speaker 1: A slip website for fifty lease, Like come on you
Speaker 1: you slip. I'll leave them purry at twenty dollars.
Speaker 3: Bill will do anything it on at all.
Speaker 2: They would take some extra content and could be like
Speaker 2: mock draft Central competing.
Speaker 1: In fact, my biggest concern really is that if we
Speaker 1: turn this in they're going to ask us to be
Speaker 1: writing again, which that's that's a concern as well. So
Speaker 1: these are all things to think about here in the
Speaker 1: off season, and a project that could really make or
Speaker 1: break our careers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we've got to We've got a tread carefully.
Speaker 2: What a show.
Speaker 1: It was great, great have and everybody here. This is
Speaker 1: the Thursday edition of Around the NFL Behind the Glass today,
Speaker 1: by the way, sitting in for the great Eric Roberts,
Speaker 1: who is with his lovely wife and they're they're doing
Speaker 1: they're on that wonderful journey towards their first child landing
Speaker 1: on Earth, and they have an appointment of some kind.
Speaker 1: What do they call it? Sonogram? Yeah, Sonogram, Big Funk
Speaker 1: behind the Glass, the big Funk and a big chair,
Speaker 1: Big funk, big chair. He ain't scared. What's up about?
Speaker 5: What's happening?
Speaker 1: Guys? We could have went for another hour, but dang
Speaker 1: damn that's hard.
Speaker 2: Big funk at the best intro music Mark are no
Speaker 2: way in for our intro music.
Speaker 1: Brandy Chavez, what's happening, Big fonk, Big Funk?
Speaker 2: Our our our podcast was now just a hangout podcast.
Speaker 2: Were just like, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 5: How are you, buddy? I'm doing good. How about you guys?
Speaker 5: This is interesting, This feels uh feels different.
Speaker 1: It's new.
Speaker 4: You're feel like control, a rush of power. Keep it
Speaker 4: to be sitting in that seat.
Speaker 1: Yeah. How does it feel to be uh potentially have
Speaker 1: a power play opportunity of your own with Eric out
Speaker 1: out of the studio.
Speaker 5: I mean it's it's tempting to abuse it, right. Power
Speaker 5: corrupts all, doesn't it. But I think I should be okay.
Speaker 1: And I believe you have and this is a great
Speaker 1: speaking of power place. I think you have something for
Speaker 1: a member of the show that you wanted.
Speaker 5: To I do, yes, okay, I see Cynthia, you want
Speaker 5: to bring it's on the chair, especially.
Speaker 3: The great Cynthia who does incredible work on our show.
Speaker 5: Sesska, what is this?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Thank you Cynthia?
Speaker 4: And well, I mean this is this is actually quite
Speaker 4: weak changing because I got my unh soiled super Bowl program,
Speaker 4: which you remember was on my desk.
Speaker 3: It was soiled, and uh, this is the ticket and keep.
Speaker 1: Show the audience on YouTube. There's nothing in it, uh
Speaker 1: hold out, got to take the film up, but we
Speaker 1: could do that.
Speaker 3: We'll do I want to keep it.
Speaker 1: How about that. What a move by Randy.
Speaker 3: That's great, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I don't know, how do you feel?
Speaker 3: I feel like that?
Speaker 4: First of all, I think I learned the lesson is like,
Speaker 4: complain about more things and then results start to happen.
Speaker 1: It's true, there's.
Speaker 4: That, But I have to say one thing about our company,
Speaker 4: and right now, you know, we're in this building where
Speaker 4: you know, half the place is leaking, You've got all
Speaker 4: the outdoor shrubbery on the Yeah, it's it's got issues.
Speaker 4: But I had multiple people inside the building who listened
Speaker 4: to the show who reached out and said, you can
Speaker 4: have my ticket, I don't want it, which is like,
Speaker 4: you know, I think that was the that's a positive
Speaker 4: thing about our company, about this corporation.
Speaker 1: It shows that there's still a human element to the operation. Right.
Speaker 1: I feel that. So Randy sitting in, thank you Randy
Speaker 1: for holding it down today. Like we said, yes, the
Speaker 1: Free Agency two thirteen is coming, but the one of
Speaker 1: record right now it is the Greg Rosenthal Free Agency
Speaker 1: one oh one, and we're going to get to that
Speaker 1: and and dig into it. But before we do that,
Speaker 1: let's hit the news away.
Speaker 5: You snap justin fields off the left side, free play
Speaker 5: for Justin worked it down the left side.
Speaker 2: He's got DJ board at the time.
Speaker 3: We'ping into the end zone for the touchdown.
Speaker 1: Touchdown pairs in their backet front. So many big moments
Speaker 1: for Justin Fields this past season. Not maybe has not
Speaker 1: lived up to the highest of you know, expectations, but
Speaker 1: he certainly has flashed multiple times in Chicago and now
Speaker 1: with the Bears in a major crossroads moment. We talked
Speaker 1: about it with Connie Fox on the Monday Show. The
Speaker 1: Bears have to make a decision what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: We talked about in the news that Justin Fields had
Speaker 1: unfollowed the Bears on social media, which of course is
Speaker 1: becomes a story in today's football culture. He was a
Speaker 1: guest on the Everybody's Got a Podcast?
Speaker 3: I already noticed this. I do not never being that
Speaker 3: does not have a podcast every player.
Speaker 1: This is the newer thing now. Podcasts are hugely popular
Speaker 1: now obviously and media folk like ourselves that makes sense,
Speaker 1: But now it seems as if almost every player in
Speaker 1: the league has a podcast, as does a mon Ross
Speaker 1: Saint Brown on the Saint Brown Bros. Podcast posted on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Here is Justin Fields when asked about his move to
Speaker 1: unfollow the Bears on social media. Oooh, why do.
Speaker 6: People take social media so seriously?
Speaker 1: But like.
Speaker 6: This and that, like I still mess with the Bears
Speaker 6: and that, I'm just trying to take a little break,
Speaker 6: un follow with the Bears and the NFL. Bro I'm
Speaker 6: not trying to have football on my timeline.
Speaker 1: Like, I don't believe that at all, And here I do.
Speaker 2: He said he was going on vacation and he's just
Speaker 2: sick of seeing all the like Fields reporting and stuff.
Speaker 1: And then but he unfollowed the Bears. The Bears don't
Speaker 1: have that reporting.
Speaker 2: Sure, they're putting out stuff of like college stuff of
Speaker 2: like what should we do with the draft? You know,
Speaker 2: stuff like that. I don't think it's yeah, but like, but.
Speaker 1: If you unfollow your team during this time, it's going
Speaker 1: to lead to many more distractions that yes to deal with.
Speaker 4: I would say that there's a tonal difference in like
Speaker 4: when Kyler Murray created all that drama a couple of
Speaker 4: years ago and kind of started this trend.
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, he's tired of hear he's the godfather,
Speaker 1: And uh, does Justin Fields want to stay in Chicago?
Speaker 1: Do you want to stay in Chicago or what's up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, of course I want to stay, to
Speaker 6: be honest, but I'll be trying to, like, you know,
Speaker 6: with all the talk, it's hard to you know, I
Speaker 6: guess kind of just boom being one place, but I
Speaker 6: can't see myself playing in another place. But I know
Speaker 6: how that league is, like you was probably the same
Speaker 6: way before you have Green Bay. But I mean, if
Speaker 6: it was up to me, I would want to stay
Speaker 6: in Chicago. I love the city, the city's lit, the
Speaker 6: fans they're you know, they're great, and the people. But
Speaker 6: it's a business. Sign got no control over it. So
Speaker 6: whatever happens happens. But I feel like the biggest thing
Speaker 6: with all this going on right now, I just wanted.
Speaker 1: To be over. So I get that that I get yeah,
Speaker 1: and that I believe that it's it's it's weighing on
Speaker 1: him and uh, and we'll see, we'll find out soon
Speaker 1: enough what happens.
Speaker 4: I think he's like, uh, because you know, you get
Speaker 4: it later on in your career as a quarterback and
Speaker 4: you can pack in like no trade clause or need
Speaker 4: to agree to a trade. You know, if something's gonna happen,
Speaker 4: if there's quarterback movement more than than ever before in the.
Speaker 3: History of the league. But he is powerless, Like.
Speaker 4: If they move him, he doesn't have any choice over that,
Speaker 4: and like a team that probably has a lot of
Speaker 4: issues is going to want to trade for him. And
Speaker 4: it's like you're a couple of years into a career
Speaker 4: where like there's zero patients at quarterback and suddenly justin Fields,
Speaker 4: like a first round pick is getting moved and who
Speaker 4: knows where he winds up in his life has changed entirely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's he's our eye seasons just starting, you know.
Speaker 2: But he's been in it for what six weeks now,
Speaker 2: and he has seen countless tweets and posts on Instagram
Speaker 2: and everything like wondering if he's gonna be there, and
Speaker 2: he probably knows the score that it's less likely and
Speaker 2: it must be a powerless, annoying position. He could just
Speaker 2: use the mute button.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I feel like that.
Speaker 2: I mean Instagram, when you mute people sometimes it still
Speaker 2: kind of shows up anyways.
Speaker 1: So Instagram is like happy birthdays and thank you and
Speaker 1: appointments of coaches. It's not it's not like what will
Speaker 1: we do about justin Fields. We love the college kids,
Speaker 1: but you know by the way, and that's why free
Speaker 1: agency is so important and how amazing it is to
Speaker 1: think that until like the early nineties, I think they
Speaker 1: didn't even have free agency for the players in any
Speaker 1: real way, so it could it's going to be and
Speaker 1: I think I think the real stories, he knows what's happening,
Speaker 1: just like we all kind of know what direction this
Speaker 1: seems to be heading. That he will be traded and
Speaker 1: then that team will control his rights and could pick
Speaker 1: up his fifty year option and then maybe franchise tag him.
Speaker 1: He's a couple of years away, potentially from having any
Speaker 1: real power over where he wants to play, and that's
Speaker 1: part of the reason why it's a bummer for him
Speaker 1: that the Bears thing didn't quite.
Speaker 4: Take one little note on their side that looks like
Speaker 4: an entertaining podcast and there obviously they can get good guests,
Speaker 4: that's that's nice, But on little microphone tip like I
Speaker 4: could hear an airplane in the background, so I just you know,
Speaker 4: these are little lots that you know with time and.
Speaker 2: Expects a loss. But when the producers and you know,
Speaker 2: equanimious in a monro, they must have been pretty excited
Speaker 2: when they were like, oh, we got fields on like
Speaker 2: the day that he followed, because I'm sure it was
Speaker 2: planning ahead of time. Now, just like a big beautiful ties,
Speaker 2: we're getting some pop on the Around the NFL podcast.
Speaker 1: It's big times beautiful timing. In other news, I love
Speaker 1: this story. Uh, And listeners of this pod, you know
Speaker 1: that Nick Sirianni's been on my radar for a long time.
Speaker 1: And before the Eagles went up in flames last year
Speaker 1: after their ten and one start, they just lost out
Speaker 1: out essentially and then got embarrassed in the playoffs. And
Speaker 1: it all kind of started with Big Dom, the Curse
Speaker 1: of Big Dom, who is the security officer on the sideline,
Speaker 1: the chief security officer who was banned from the sidelines
Speaker 1: for the regular season the balance of the regular season
Speaker 1: after a December third incident in a blowout loss of
Speaker 1: the Niners in which he had made contact or got
Speaker 1: into a sideline quarrel with Drake Greenlaw of San Francisco.
Speaker 1: And this is wonderful. I just love this. Derek Gunn,
Speaker 1: who is a Philadelphia radio host, been there for a
Speaker 1: long time. I'm just gonna read the whole tweet. It's
Speaker 1: gotten a little other juice in it. Too, and it
Speaker 1: gives you an idea of a lot. According to sources, Jalen,
Speaker 1: I love this, by the way, radio guy tweet this.
Speaker 2: One got ignored, I think because people were confused.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little weird. According to the stars is Jalen,
Speaker 1: big Contract pulled in numerous directions on slash off field,
Speaker 1: put him under a lot of pressure. He didn't handle well. Ellipses,
Speaker 1: big Dom suspended Dash controls Sirianni's emotion on sideline. In
Speaker 1: his absence, Nick gets in numerous arguments with players slash
Speaker 1: coaches during games. So that's the headline that Syrian, as
Speaker 1: soon as big Dom was banned from the sideline, could
Speaker 1: not could no longer control himself and was just fighting
Speaker 1: with everyone. And that perhaps I guess this is inferring
Speaker 1: led in part to the meltdown of the entire operation.
Speaker 4: It's like the most unbelievable NFL offseason story I can
Speaker 4: think of it in a long time.
Speaker 3: But if that's true.
Speaker 1: That that's true, they kept the head coach.
Speaker 3: It's wild.
Speaker 4: I mean, we kind of flashpoint Flashpoint focused this a
Speaker 4: little bit because we know, you know, there was the
Speaker 4: trend that the team went one to five down the
Speaker 4: stretch without Dom, but it's wild.
Speaker 2: Wait for that bonus as the associate producer for presenting
Speaker 2: that guest that week.
Speaker 3: Understand incoming.
Speaker 1: We'll have a sit down. Yeah, we'll just stop. We'll
Speaker 1: break brad market eye.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that celebrating said that was a big moment for
Speaker 2: for me and and I haven't really seen anything.
Speaker 1: We'll get there. We're gonna break red after the top
Speaker 1: two thirteen blows up went over big cigars and a
Speaker 1: glass of brandy on a brown suede couch, leather couch.
Speaker 4: We'll touch on that, okay, Yeah, yeah, no, not at all.
Speaker 4: But I just I this to me is just it
Speaker 4: kind of confirms everything Dan you were saying about Sirianni
Speaker 4: where I don't think that felt it felt like a
Speaker 4: you thing.
Speaker 3: And now it's clearly a real Eagles thing.
Speaker 1: It's good to get a dub every once in a while. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when he was shouting at the I think it was
Speaker 1: the Kansas City fans after they kind of lucked into
Speaker 1: that primetime win. That was a tipping point for mely Yeah.
Speaker 2: And pretty much fall apart.
Speaker 1: I what was that? Greg?
Speaker 2: I love that for the Eagles, you do. I don't
Speaker 2: love this for the Eagles. He feels very diminished in
Speaker 2: terms of his leadership. Like the owner and Howie I
Speaker 2: think came in and made some decisions about the coordinators.
Speaker 2: You know that that they wanted him to have possibly
Speaker 2: and the players are smart enough to know that. And
Speaker 2: then this report comes out and just in general, I
Speaker 2: think it puts you in a tough spots as a
Speaker 2: leader going into the season that like this information is
Speaker 2: out there and it makes you think about how A j.
Speaker 2: Brown reacted and really how all the players reacted, Like
Speaker 2: there is there has been no smoking gun, like no
Speaker 2: great answer for what happened there. It just it's one
Speaker 2: of the most mystifying, like meltdowns of any team.
Speaker 4: I can run shot up the hot butts rankings in
Speaker 4: unprecedented fashions right Super Bowl they were.
Speaker 2: The one seed and they went from the not only
Speaker 2: the one seed, but like the best record in the
Speaker 2: NFL by two games at that point to being a
Speaker 2: little surprised he even kept the job. What did you think, Dana,
Speaker 2: the Jalen part of it?
Speaker 1: I well, you know, I've I've been wondering about Jalen too,
Speaker 1: And because there was obviously a leadership boyd there when
Speaker 1: the team went down in flames, and that it kind
Speaker 1: of begins with the quarterback, and I thought that quarterback
Speaker 1: and head coach. I mean, that's how locker rooms are
Speaker 1: won and lost in a lot of ways. So I
Speaker 1: don't we don't know, really, and maybe more will come out,
Speaker 1: but I think it's pretty clear that Sirianni is his
Speaker 1: He's in a vulnerable place and maybe he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a real handle on the team anymore. And I think
Speaker 1: we'll learn more about Jalen Hurts this year. This is
Speaker 1: such a huge season for the whole operation. Obviously, I'm
Speaker 1: checking out the rest of Derek Gun's tweets, by the way,
Speaker 1: because kind of blown away by the structure of that tweet.
Speaker 1: That's not typically how he tweets, and he's usually a
Speaker 1: little shorter bursts, so maybe that's when he starts more
Speaker 1: of a detail oriented But that's a tough one in
Speaker 1: the sense that that that's the one that probably has
Speaker 1: gotten more noticed than anything he's ever sent out. You
Speaker 1: want to put together a fully formed paragraph in that
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 2: One of those local reporters and I know he's respected
Speaker 2: there in Philadelphia. We were He'll just have like one
Speaker 2: or two bomb drops per year.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that. You like to be you like to
Speaker 2: be that guy, but you don't want to leave the
Speaker 2: comma a space away from from this.
Speaker 3: You know the word.
Speaker 1: And if you're going to do an ellipses, it is
Speaker 1: with the third the third period. If you're going to
Speaker 1: do an ellipses, don't hit us with two. But Greg,
Speaker 1: you also on you know, and I don't roam exit job, mister.
Speaker 1: I'll have lots of type of you.
Speaker 4: Well you you seem intentionally you would go intentionally to
Speaker 4: kind of zig on capitalization non capitalization on your tweets.
Speaker 1: That's that's stylized.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's a mistake written always yeah, but
Speaker 4: that's intentional, Yeah, very intentional.
Speaker 2: Lack of punctulation, lack of capitalization. It happens. I want
Speaker 2: to move into what you know, Derek gun but you
Speaker 2: know is a nice look at some seasoned chicken on
Speaker 2: the grill. So I want to get into those kind
Speaker 2: of tweets.
Speaker 1: That's that's good. Yeah, sometimes too, and it's not just Greg,
Speaker 1: I've done this as well. Sometimes you don't capitalize and
Speaker 1: you don't punctuate, and it's almost kind of like it's
Speaker 1: a way of expressing your take in almost a matter
Speaker 1: of fact tone, or almost a little bit of like
Speaker 1: a sarcastic tone.
Speaker 3: I mean, I get how it works, like I don't
Speaker 3: thank you, but.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that's great. I don't think that Greg's but too.
Speaker 4: It's a choice, and he's he's you know, I don't
Speaker 4: think I know that Greg, as the editor of the
Speaker 4: Around the NFL section of the website, understands basic and
Speaker 4: also complex grammatic Twitter.
Speaker 2: The rules are different on Twitter. You know, it's a
Speaker 2: it's a lighter medium, it's not worthy of punctures.
Speaker 3: Think it helps you appear youthful, and you know.
Speaker 1: It's a bad pocket. We're bad at this. Now, let's
Speaker 1: move on, let's get into Oh all right, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm going to get out of the way. Yeah, right.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're this year is the good news.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're running out of these where I
Speaker 1: have to throw it to Greg because it's a patriot retiring,
Speaker 1: because how many more can there be? Because now we're
Speaker 1: at special Special Team's ace Matthew Slater and uh, if
Speaker 1: we're at the Special Teams as we have to be
Speaker 1: near the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, Tantaia High Tower was just hired as part
Speaker 2: of this staff. So like, we'll we'll now get to
Speaker 2: live through these guys as coaches, which I'm tough, I don't.
Speaker 1: Well, we don't have to live. Yeah, that's a personal look.
Speaker 2: If Bill Belichick says that he's the greatest core special
Speaker 2: teams player.
Speaker 1: And music under this, go ahead, and I don't need
Speaker 1: it to be long.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, let's give.
Speaker 1: Us a little inspiration out there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, Matthew Slater is the best special teams core player
Speaker 2: in the history of the league, according to Bill Belichick,
Speaker 2: a pretty great expert on special.
Speaker 3: I thought he was an expert on football until nobody
Speaker 3: hired him.
Speaker 2: Ten, ten time Pro Bowl, Pro Bowler, two time First
Speaker 2: Team All Pro. I don't think that makes you Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer personally, but a Ring of Honor guy for
Speaker 2: the Patriots, and just uh, you know, a unique career,
Speaker 2: the son of an all time great, Jackie Slater.
Speaker 1: The one thing about.
Speaker 2: Just give some just give some love to a special
Speaker 2: team's ace.
Speaker 4: And it was a fifth round pick who really was
Speaker 4: in danger of not making the team right out of
Speaker 4: the gate and made this choice to make special teams
Speaker 4: his thing I always found a weird because I'll never
Speaker 4: forget go into the rams, like intro in Los Angeles,
Speaker 4: where it was like they brought all the La Press
Speaker 4: in into you know who blown all that business. But
Speaker 4: like Jackie Slater, like a Hall of Famer was there.
Speaker 4: And Jackie Slater is six foot four, two hundred and
Speaker 4: seventy seven pounds, and Matt Slater is six feet tall
Speaker 4: two hundred and five pounds. Do you don't typically see
Speaker 4: a son that isn't like?
Speaker 3: Why didn't you?
Speaker 4: I would have thought odds On would say, you produce
Speaker 4: another like starter tackle.
Speaker 1: She's three ft six is rio perp?
Speaker 4: Well I was Actually that was where my mind went,
Speaker 4: the mom or someone must be very small in the
Speaker 4: equation and.
Speaker 1: There are generations to get skipped a certain thing. Yes,
Speaker 1: and we don't know the whole story. I mean you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, now now that I got the Twitter that
Speaker 1: here's to the genetics. Okay, it's it's a science, but
Speaker 1: an uneven science in a way. You care for me.
Speaker 1: You've made it.
Speaker 3: No, you've made it so crystal clear for me.
Speaker 2: I mean you're making it sound like six foot two
Speaker 2: five is some like mini guy. It's not but he'd
Speaker 2: be like, oh, that's it.
Speaker 4: It's how often are you four inches shorter and seventy
Speaker 4: pounds later than your than your dad. That was also
Speaker 4: Jackie Slater's playing weight. Yeah, he's trimmed down a little,
Speaker 4: but he's not a he's not dominuative.
Speaker 1: Jackie Slater's tell me only fifty percent of the DNA
Speaker 1: of Matthew Slater comes from Jackie.
Speaker 3: I did not know that. That's that's what we need.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's uh, that's what's happening in the news before. Actually,
Speaker 1: let's take a break and then I want to cover
Speaker 1: one bit of behind the scenes. Uh, you a massive
Speaker 1: conversation that needs to be had, and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: get to the one on one. Let's take a break.
Speaker 1: Welcome back. So you may I remember about a week
Speaker 1: or so we can have or so before the super
Speaker 1: Bowl we had our annual don't say super Bowl episode
Speaker 1: or you cannot utter the words, and if you do,
Speaker 1: there's a monetary penalty. And all three of us incurred
Speaker 1: fines also, And this maybe seems a little unfair. Eric
Speaker 1: I announced after the fact, anything that he missed in
Speaker 1: terms of the buzzer, he would have to pick up
Speaker 1: the fine. So he's into this now the pot and
Speaker 1: then we were like, all right, what are we gonna
Speaker 1: do with the money, and got an idea, So Big Funk,
Speaker 1: let's bring back Big Funk behind the glass. What's up?
Speaker 2: He didn't really go anywhere where?
Speaker 5: Where's this gone?
Speaker 1: All right? What's up, Funk?
Speaker 5: What's happening?
Speaker 1: Big Funk has had a distinguished for a young man,
Speaker 1: a distinguished career in broadcasting. Part of his journey was
Speaker 1: at a radio station. And I don't know, I can't
Speaker 1: speak to any of the the talent working there, either
Speaker 1: good or bad. And so this isn't a hit piece
Speaker 1: your former employer. I don't know. If you want to
Speaker 1: name them, that's up to you. I mean, do you
Speaker 1: think you know where I'm going?
Speaker 5: By the way, I have a hunch.
Speaker 1: But anyway, it was like a z Morning Zoo type thing,
Speaker 1: and there was a there was a radio bit where
Speaker 1: the die hard Packers fan Randy Chavez was offered a
Speaker 1: sum of money. How much Funk one thousand bucks? One
Speaker 1: g whoa ten rocks if he got a tattoo of
Speaker 1: a rival of the Packers on his body? Yeah, the
Speaker 1: catch of course being it must be done live on air,
Speaker 1: and I think we do we have any footage from
Speaker 1: this incident, any rival.
Speaker 5: Well I'll explain in a second here.
Speaker 1: All right, and now we're watching it on this radio.
Speaker 1: When was this? How long ago is this? Oh?
Speaker 5: Man, this is like three four years ago. Fun fact,
Speaker 5: the guy tattooing, he's onic masters.
Speaker 1: Oh, very good, so at least it was something professional.
Speaker 1: So there's funk. And check it out on the YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: It looks painful, honest, thigh and it looks like a
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2: Wow. If you can subscribe to our Patreon, you can
Speaker 2: see an exclusive.
Speaker 3: Version of this, which is what I'm crazy, So it
Speaker 3: really is.
Speaker 5: I haven't seen this video in years.
Speaker 1: This is so we might have to blur it. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's that salacious and sexy but funk. So yes,
Speaker 1: here's what the plan is. Because I don't like that
Speaker 1: I can take it. I don't want I personally to
Speaker 1: put a young radio producer in that position like, hey,
Speaker 1: for the bid on the show, tattoo yourself and we'll
Speaker 1: give you some money. Like when I was however old
Speaker 1: you were there, twenty three years old or whatever, I
Speaker 1: would have taken the thousand two because I had to
Speaker 1: pay rent. So I have an issue. Now here's the question, Yeah,
Speaker 1: are you okay with that tattoo in the modern times
Speaker 1: or does it annoy you a little bit that it's
Speaker 1: still on your leg.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie it does It does annoy me
Speaker 5: a little bit more so because every time I go
Speaker 5: anywhere at all, usually someone I roll with. Whenever there's
Speaker 5: like a lull, like a little bit of silence, it's
Speaker 5: always like, you know, Randy has a Bears tattoo.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's exactly where we step in on this podcast.
Speaker 1: With the money that we've raised from don't say super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and perhaps with the help of the listeners, I propose
Speaker 1: we eliminate that tattoo for Mandy's like, either through laser
Speaker 1: removal or or go the Johnny deppro out the Wino
Speaker 1: Forever oute, where we could modify it and turn it
Speaker 1: into something else. I know it was fairly intricate. How
Speaker 1: do you feel about How do you feel about that
Speaker 1: as a possibility.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not opposed to it, right, I don't
Speaker 5: get me wrong the tattoo. The tattoo is a funny reminder.
Speaker 5: I guess depends how you conserve funny of what I use,
Speaker 5: like where it was before years ago. I have no
Speaker 5: problem covering it up.
Speaker 1: But that's it's near. It's merely an option of course,
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, So if if Randy is if that's
Speaker 1: something he would want, like if that's ever something that
Speaker 1: crossed your mind, like if I could do it over
Speaker 1: again and get rid of it, or if I could,
Speaker 1: you know, cover it up somehow. We be around the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast and our our listeners are here to help.
Speaker 2: Well, after viewing the tattoo, I I don't think we
Speaker 2: can cover it up like we were like, oh, can
Speaker 2: we change it into the packers?
Speaker 1: Look, it's like no, they can do amazing things. Though
Speaker 1: I know that I don't have tattoos myself, but they
Speaker 1: can do amazing tattoo.
Speaker 2: It's the it's the face. It's got to be too tough.
Speaker 2: I think it either needs to be.
Speaker 1: It's a very greg thing to just assume that that
Speaker 1: can't because I feel like if we got someone on
Speaker 1: the phone he's like, oh yeah, we could definitely do something.
Speaker 4: Well, the guy that it probably knows he sounds like
Speaker 4: his career, but I don't know if we can get him.
Speaker 4: But you could also catch like f you Chicago bars.
Speaker 5: So my backup plan, my backup plan was like I
Speaker 5: would just write sucks underneath it sometime. I mean, I've
Speaker 5: I've added more pieces to my leg since. But I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm I'm not a I have nothing. I
Speaker 5: love tattoos, so I have no problem adding more stuff
Speaker 5: to my leg. It's it's just, you know, it tells
Speaker 5: a story to me. It's memories I have. I don't
Speaker 5: have the best memory, but looking at tattoos, it reminds
Speaker 5: me of where I was, and it takes me back
Speaker 5: to a place.
Speaker 3: So you seem somewhat attached to it.
Speaker 5: Actually, no, it's just it's not I don't like the Bears.
Speaker 5: I'm a Packers fan, so and.
Speaker 1: We're certainly not gonna do what those shock jocks did
Speaker 1: once upon a time and put pressure on you. It's
Speaker 1: merely an option if if you want to go down
Speaker 1: that road.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't mind seeing some mockups from each of you guys.
Speaker 2: So you so you would prefer instead of the removal,
Speaker 2: some sort of adjustment.
Speaker 5: Potentially, I'm I'm I'm not opposed to anything, really honestly.
Speaker 2: Because that's then like a two part process.
Speaker 1: Okay, right, okay, and add on okay, And now I
Speaker 1: think whether it's our listeners on social media, whether it's
Speaker 1: the subreddit or wherever, if if we can get some
Speaker 1: you know, if it's if Randy does give us the
Speaker 1: go ahead to do some crowdsource fundraising, because I don't
Speaker 1: know the cost. It could be potentially pricey, but we're
Speaker 1: we're gonna use the power of this platform, uh, to
Speaker 1: to make Randy Chavez is right leg pure Again.
Speaker 5: I appreciate the offer. That's very nice of you, guys.
Speaker 5: I've never had someone extend such a generous offer such
Speaker 5: as that to myself.
Speaker 4: So I think Dan for you the street, your streak
Speaker 4: of charitable uh you know behavior, We've We've got a
Speaker 4: couple of mementos over in the corner of the studio,
Speaker 4: but it just adds to that legacy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your idea, So you are any He sent me
Speaker 1: an autograph Domo Dave Oswana. He sent me that ball
Speaker 1: for the helping those underprivileged kids find a home.
Speaker 2: It was like the business and is not. It was
Speaker 2: like the future business Leaders of America or whatever.
Speaker 1: All that work I did with the orphans down and Clemson.
Speaker 1: Now I now I can add this is Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: I didn't look at it that way, but it's starting
Speaker 1: to turn it.
Speaker 4: Well, yourself wouldn't You wouldn't see it that way, but
Speaker 4: others can help.
Speaker 2: It's you, all right, It's got to be up to Randy, though,
Speaker 2: I think we could afford it. I'm looking at the prayer.
Speaker 2: I think we could.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, uh funk uh Yeah, Let's give you one
Speaker 1: week and we'll circle back. We'll let you kind of
Speaker 1: really ruminate and think on it, because I understand that
Speaker 1: is part of the the ink journey for people that
Speaker 1: it did takes you. That's a place in time, that's
Speaker 1: where you were. Then we're not here to change rewrite history.
Speaker 5: I will say, though you three happened to be some
Speaker 5: of the most creative guys I know.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Keep going.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's Eric. So if you guys, if you
Speaker 5: guys want to come with some fun ideas, I'm also
Speaker 5: a proud too. I would I would genuinely would like to.
Speaker 5: I would like to see what you guys.
Speaker 4: Can you get us just a photo of it so
Speaker 4: that I can I will work on some mock ups potentially,
Speaker 4: What about.
Speaker 1: That old you don't see it as much anymore. But
Speaker 1: remember the cars that had let's say a Dallas Cowboys logo,
Speaker 1: and then it would be Calvin and Hobbes urinating on
Speaker 1: the logo. I remember those that would be a little
Speaker 1: bit of a throwback.
Speaker 5: For instance, I do love Calvin and Hobbes, big Bill
Speaker 5: Waterson fan. But I but getting getting Calvin Peene on
Speaker 5: my leg might be because you'd have to be giant.
Speaker 5: The logo is big enough where the covin would have
Speaker 5: to take up most of my leg and that would
Speaker 5: probably be a bit of hard sell. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 5: Well that's just one idea. But see that creative idea.
Speaker 5: Men here thinking outside the box. Appreciate you guys always.
Speaker 1: You got it funk all right. I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel like that was progress and a potentially a great
Speaker 1: situation for us.
Speaker 4: Well, you're giving him the choice, which I like. He's
Speaker 4: one week, right, you have one week?
Speaker 1: Have one week? All right? Here we go, moving on
Speaker 1: free agency one on one. How many years have you
Speaker 1: been doing this on a whether it's NFL media or
Speaker 1: your old job at a NBC to World, How long
Speaker 1: have you been doing a free agency list R?
Speaker 2: I don't know, fifteen years or so.
Speaker 1: And do you find yourself because I certainly was, and
Speaker 1: when I was in the power rankings game, I was
Speaker 1: very competitive about it. I wanted to have the best
Speaker 1: power rankings. Do you have certain people and you don't
Speaker 1: have to name them that you kind of use as
Speaker 1: a measuring stick and you want to reach that bar
Speaker 1: or exceed it.
Speaker 2: I don't like to look at the other lists, even
Speaker 2: mine's out.
Speaker 3: Okayeh, once you've done yours.
Speaker 2: So I think the PFF you mentioned they do a
Speaker 2: lot of work out there, because I've seen them tennis
Speaker 2: and tweets. They shake it up different ways. They got
Speaker 2: they got a lot of production behind it that looks.
Speaker 1: Great, and they like, by the way, which is a
Speaker 1: comp free agency comp for that player in past years.
Speaker 2: I don't like to look at it till mine's out,
Speaker 2: because then you just end up like it's like mock
Speaker 2: drafters end up just like making a combination of all
Speaker 2: the other mock drafts.
Speaker 1: I never I never did the same thing of powering
Speaker 1: has never looked. Will anybody?
Speaker 2: I will A lot of they all do great great
Speaker 2: Chrisco does one and you enjoy doing it.
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah. It kind of really does start the
Speaker 1: off season in a lot of ways, because the this
Speaker 1: off season journey begins with free agency, uh well kind
Speaker 1: of begins with the coach and staff hiring cycles into
Speaker 1: free agency, and then of course the draft and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, teams are pretty much fully for that.
Speaker 2: We've ever let it go exclusively on the podcast for
Speaker 2: the first time. Oh you know, nice little pop.
Speaker 1: Hmm, that's that's fan fanfare horn once more, because I
Speaker 1: did not know that hit it? Do you hear that?
Speaker 1: Atn exclusive? Greg rosenbal free agency one on one. So
Speaker 1: let's get into it, Greg and we can and Mark
Speaker 1: you and I will kind of prod around the list ourselves,
Speaker 1: and Greg's gonna throw out some things that he took
Speaker 1: away from putting it together.
Speaker 3: We do look at other lists before we do our list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I studied the list, of course, because we
Speaker 1: have our big free agency two thirteen coming up and
Speaker 1: that takes a lot of research about the genre. But
Speaker 1: the top ten just so people know and then we
Speaker 1: can go anywhere we want, Okay, number one, Chris Jones,
Speaker 1: number two, Kirk Cousins, number three, T Higgins, number four,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, that's Josh Allen of the Jags, the pass
Speaker 1: rusher number five, Christian Wilkins number six, Brian Burns number seven,
Speaker 1: the Jerius Snead number eight, justin Meta Buke right week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at number nine, Antoine Winfield and number ten daneil Hunter.
Speaker 1: I have to say my big picture and right on
Speaker 1: the outside of the top ten Mike Evans, one of
Speaker 1: the great most consistent wide receivers of this era or
Speaker 1: any other era, potentially about to reach free agency. I
Speaker 1: love this list this year, and I know it's going
Speaker 1: to be pillaged greg Ee by franchise tags. That window
Speaker 1: just opened, and then you know, anything else that goes down.
Speaker 1: But the list itself, I feel like if you're a
Speaker 1: team that needs to make upgrades, almost every major position
Speaker 1: has some studs.
Speaker 2: I think it's a strong list. It's a big drop
Speaker 2: off maybe after the top thirteen or fourteen. You know,
Speaker 2: you mentioned Evans, Jalen Johnson's a really good one with
Speaker 2: the Bears, Michael Pittman, and then there's kind of a
Speaker 2: drop off, and most of those players probably are getting
Speaker 2: tagged like eight, I would guess if I had to
Speaker 2: put an over under out of those fourteen players. But
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think it's a good list, and
Speaker 2: I think there's another drop off around forty, so it
Speaker 2: feels like you could do a you know, it's a
Speaker 2: good thing you're doing two thirteen because it does feel deeper.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is with the trend of
Speaker 2: the NFL does more players on short term contracts, is
Speaker 2: what I suspect that there's like one hundred and forty
Speaker 2: good players, like guys that can actually help your team.
Speaker 2: So I think it's a deeper list and it's pretty
Speaker 2: high quality. You're right throughout and for the first time
Speaker 2: in a long time, you know one and two Chris
Speaker 2: Jones and Kirk Cousins. They could actually change teams. You
Speaker 2: don't see that too often.
Speaker 3: It's uh.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think there are years when you kind
Speaker 4: of take a larger look at the class of free
Speaker 4: agents and it's like, all right, we're gonna hype this
Speaker 4: up and we're gonna talk about it a lot, but
Speaker 4: you're kind of struggling to find real juice. But this
Speaker 4: list is dotted with intriguing especially on offense. I think
Speaker 4: intriguing wide receivers, running backs, for a couple quarterbacks out there,
Speaker 4: and right away it's like, I look in the top ten.
Speaker 4: I look at the Chiefs and the Vikings is having
Speaker 4: a lot of tough decisions to make try to navigate this.
Speaker 3: They've got right or of the top ten.
Speaker 2: So Cousins and Hunter both have elements in their contract
Speaker 2: that say they can't be tagged, which is amazing for them.
Speaker 2: I mean, Hunter is gonna and the Vikings can't afford both.
Speaker 2: And maybe that informs whether how you know how aggressive
Speaker 2: they are and trying to keep Kirk Cousins if they
Speaker 2: want to keep Hunter or neither, who really knows. And
Speaker 2: then the Jones sneid example with a Super Bowl champion,
Speaker 2: I can't think of anything like it. Because Chris Jones
Speaker 2: got such a big contract last year, he doesn't have
Speaker 2: the tag number, which would be I think under twenty
Speaker 2: million dollars. Instead his tag numbers thirty two. And that
Speaker 2: really raises an interesting question with this Chiefs team that
Speaker 2: can you sign both of these guys? Can you sign
Speaker 2: Jones long term and tag sneed or vice versa With
Speaker 2: all the money they're already paying to Mahomes and in
Speaker 2: the rest of the contract that they they're looking at
Speaker 2: maybe adding to wide receiver, I don't think you can
Speaker 2: and when I think logically about it, I actually think
Speaker 2: it's more logical that they tag Sneid kick that canned
Speaker 2: down on the road, and that Chris Jones might leave
Speaker 2: and they just might realize, like you have to make
Speaker 2: tough decisions. We've gotten the very best out of this guy.
Speaker 2: He's getting a little older, and we can't tag him
Speaker 2: for thirty two and it's going to be so hard
Speaker 2: to get him signed before free agency starts, that actually
Speaker 2: the move is to tag Sneed and that Chris Jones
Speaker 2: gets out there and just makes an absolute killing something.
Speaker 2: I kind of think that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: And I know what you were saying Mark on the
Speaker 1: last show, because I agree with you. You sometimes this
Speaker 1: free agency when a big fish does shake free and
Speaker 1: they sign with a bad team looking to make a
Speaker 1: big splash. And I mentioned how PFF has these comparison
Speaker 1: players in recent years, and the comparison player is exactly
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. And Dominican Sue, who obviously the
Speaker 1: Lions were in a powerhouse when he was there, but
Speaker 1: he was the face of that franchise. He signs a
Speaker 1: massive deal with a kind of under the radar struggling
Speaker 1: Dolphins operation at that point, and he kind of like
Speaker 1: just disappeared in a lot of ways. He was still
Speaker 1: a big time player. He was fine, but he was
Speaker 1: It wasn't like as if he would have went to
Speaker 1: a big time team or if the Lions figured out
Speaker 1: around him. The interesting thing about the Chiefs not to
Speaker 1: get off course here, but.
Speaker 2: No, I think they're are there to be the most
Speaker 2: interesting conversation.
Speaker 1: If they do say go therout. You're talking about keep
Speaker 1: the cornerback and Snead is so valuable in the Spags defense.
Speaker 1: Chris Jones obviously the most valuable, but cornerbacks and cornerbacks
Speaker 1: who could cover as a huge deal for that day.
Speaker 1: What's great about that being the Chiefs is even if
Speaker 1: they just won a Super Bowl with a great defense
Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes as a game general and they found
Speaker 1: their way back to the Lombardy, there is a fun
Speaker 1: way where they save that money and let Jones walk,
Speaker 1: Like you're saying, try to find someone that can fill
Speaker 1: at the void and then attack the offense and build
Speaker 1: another super offense around the greatest quarterback alive. They have
Speaker 1: like some different angles. They can go here and the
Speaker 1: team can end up being a lot different in structure
Speaker 1: than the one that just won the Super Bowl. Be
Speaker 1: interesting to see there is like that.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 4: We mentioned like on the last show that Chris Joones
Speaker 4: sounds like he wants to stay in Kansas City now
Speaker 4: money and a monster deal from some.
Speaker 1: Everyone that like justin Bil just said that, and he
Speaker 1: probably wants to that.
Speaker 4: This situation is a little more special than like certain
Speaker 4: other players sticking you know, sticking with that Ham and
Speaker 4: Eggert type team where they've been for a while. Like
Speaker 4: you can win more Super Bowls, you can get paid
Speaker 4: really well in some form of fashion. But they're in
Speaker 4: a tricky so to my point, so if you have
Speaker 4: if you do attack offense instead. The Chiefs have a
Speaker 4: list like running backs for instance, great example. I know
Speaker 4: they like their running backs, but Saquon, Henry Jacobs, Eckler,
Speaker 4: wide receivers, which they certainly need, Higgins, Evans, Pittman, Ridley.
Speaker 4: These are all options out there potentially right now anyway.
Speaker 1: But some of these guys will be gone, but some
Speaker 1: will be out.
Speaker 2: Evans would be a fascinating one, and people have connected,
Speaker 2: so you too.
Speaker 1: If they have some money to spend, like getting that
Speaker 1: second receiver, first receiver would would be a game changer
Speaker 1: for them.
Speaker 2: They can create a lot of cap space they're already
Speaker 2: well under. They could cut mvs, they can move the
Speaker 2: money around in Mahomes' contract, they have some people they
Speaker 2: can cut and so they they could make it all work.
Speaker 2: And there's a very recent example of them letting Charvarius
Speaker 2: Ward leave for a big contract to San Francisco and
Speaker 2: that worked. And they might feel that, like cornerback is
Speaker 2: a position that they can develop and Spags is so
Speaker 2: good at doing that that they'll let Sneed go. And
Speaker 2: I could be totally wrong, and that they'll view Jones
Speaker 2: is the irreplaceable one because he is more irreplaceable. That's
Speaker 2: why his number is so much higher. Their defensive line
Speaker 2: is quite thin if they didn't have Chris Jones. But
Speaker 2: it's a very it's a compelling conversation. It's just that
Speaker 2: Sneed's so much younger that I do wonder if they
Speaker 2: think about timeline.
Speaker 1: But to be clear, they can't do both. They can't
Speaker 1: keep Snead. They have a massive contract to Jones and
Speaker 1: make big splash and free agency on the offense.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what I mean.
Speaker 1: They have to make a decision, and I can't imagine
Speaker 1: they went through this whole season, even after winning the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, not thinking, man, we got to make some
Speaker 1: type of moves on offense.
Speaker 2: I agree with that. I think they'll be aggressive getting
Speaker 2: a wide receiver and keep one of these two guys,
Speaker 2: but not both. And in Steed with someone I passed
Speaker 2: this list around in early forms, and Steed was someone
Speaker 2: I just think if he gets free, the league loves him.
Speaker 2: You know, He's just there's no cornerbacks on this list.
Speaker 2: Jalen Johnson, I'm almost certain is gonna get tagged this
Speaker 2: Like at some positions, there's just not any players. The
Speaker 2: two positions are cornerback and tackle. So if Sneed did
Speaker 2: somehow shake free, he'd make an up scene amount of money,
Speaker 2: and I think they'd want.
Speaker 4: To just well, that's where I like free agency to me,
Speaker 4: feels like a bit of fools gold if you're the
Speaker 4: team that goes and gets some of these players, because
Speaker 4: part of Sneed's like success and journey is how he's
Speaker 4: used by SPACs, how he fits in that defense. I mean,
Speaker 4: not that it wouldn't translate somewhere else, but I think
Speaker 4: if you suddenly are the Chiefs minus, Like Chris Jones,
Speaker 4: it becomes a gaping void where everyone visually can realize
Speaker 4: how special he's been on that defense.
Speaker 2: He's just in such a good spot. He's kind of
Speaker 2: like Kirk Cousins when he left Washington that it's just
Speaker 2: so rare to actually have all this leverage where maybe
Speaker 2: they can tag him. Maybe they just feel like, we'll
Speaker 2: let Steed go, We'll make some moves, we'll put the
Speaker 2: thirty two million dollars on them somehow, and then we'll
Speaker 2: get a long term deal worked out that lowers that
Speaker 2: number at some point. But that number is so big
Speaker 2: because he knows now if he could somehow get the
Speaker 2: free agency, he's going to make more than Aaron Donald.
Speaker 2: Like he's gonna make the most any defensive player has
Speaker 2: ever made.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 2: The salary cap is reportedly going up to around two
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars according to Pro Football, Like,
Speaker 2: we don't really know. It could be anywhere from two
Speaker 2: forty three to two fifty, but either way, it's going
Speaker 2: up a lot.
Speaker 1: Where else do you want to go? Greg? What jumped
Speaker 1: out to you?
Speaker 2: Well, let's go ten to twenty, just because that that
Speaker 2: is more fun. Big names Daniel Hunter. We mentioned was ten.
Speaker 2: Evans is eleven. Jalen Johnson, I think it's gonna get
Speaker 2: tagged at twelve. Michael Pittman, I think will also probably
Speaker 2: get tagged with the Colts. And then it's Tyron Smith,
Speaker 2: the only good tackle on the market, Saquon Barkley to me,
Speaker 2: easily the best running back on the market, Calvin Ridley.
Speaker 2: An interesting situation where the Jaguars get a better draft
Speaker 2: pick or have to give away a better draft pick
Speaker 2: if they re sign Ridley, So they're incentivized to not
Speaker 2: sign Calvin Ridley at this point, so a good chance
Speaker 2: he gets free. Jonathan Gernard of the Texans, Leonard Williams,
Speaker 2: Michael Owen U who's the highest guard tackle I have?
Speaker 2: And then Chauncey Gardner Johnson. That's ten to twenty. And
Speaker 2: one of the reasons when U's up there and Tyron
Speaker 2: Smith's up there is cause like the two positions that
Speaker 2: they're just not on this list our cornerback and tackle.
Speaker 2: And it just says a lot I think about the NFL.
Speaker 2: It's like you can get defensive tackles, you can even
Speaker 2: get defensive lineman, but there's like no tackles, no cornerbacks available, whatsoever,
Speaker 2: you got to get those on.
Speaker 4: The defensive tackle is not the easiest to find necessarily
Speaker 4: find in the drafts sometimes as well at that one position.
Speaker 4: But one name that stands out to me because part
Speaker 4: of this, like I think smart free agency is keeping
Speaker 4: core people around, especially if you have a young quarterback
Speaker 4: like the Colts cannot let Michael Pittman go.
Speaker 3: In my book, I don't think.
Speaker 4: That he's a flashy number one type of guy in
Speaker 4: all aspects of his game, but it's like he is
Speaker 4: imperative to what they're trying to do on offense, what
Speaker 4: they're trying to build.
Speaker 2: Well, it might be the worst receiver group in the
Speaker 2: league if he's gone.
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the more interesting cases if
Speaker 1: he ever did get to free agency, because he has
Speaker 1: produced even with a lot of bad quarterback play. But
Speaker 1: he's also maybe not a game changer necessarily, so how
Speaker 1: possession Like again, like where he's I would love him
Speaker 1: as a one B or a two as opposed to
Speaker 1: paying him like a one, especially as we're saying, like
Speaker 1: there's so many good wide receivers coming out of the
Speaker 1: draft every year in every round he's a guy that
Speaker 1: you see those like Kenny Galladay is a good example,
Speaker 1: not that they're similar players, but where you get paid.
Speaker 1: He'll be our number one or two, number one, and
Speaker 1: he wasn't and then all of a sudden it doesn't
Speaker 1: work out. The guy Tyron Smith jumps out to me,
Speaker 1: he's he's on your list? Where is he on your list?
Speaker 2: I think thirteen fourteen?
Speaker 1: Like I think, for instance, my team, the Jets, are
Speaker 1: going to be all over Tyron Smith because they're going
Speaker 1: to want to sign a big tackle and then draft
Speaker 1: a tackle with their pick. And that's going to be
Speaker 1: great news for Smith because if there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of big tackles on the market and there's a desperate
Speaker 1: team like the Jets, that's going to drive his market up.
Speaker 1: So he is going to get a lot of money,
Speaker 1: maybe more than he deserves at this point.
Speaker 2: He last year though he stayed healthy.
Speaker 1: It's his age, though where is he at? I think
Speaker 1: now up to thirty five, he's going to get a lot.
Speaker 1: He's going to get more money than you would think
Speaker 1: a thirty five year old tackle. He's thirty three actually, okay,
Speaker 1: my best turn thirty three.
Speaker 2: So yeah, look, he was on the Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: All twenty tens team. I mean, this is a guy
Speaker 2: who's probably making the Hall of Fame someday and had
Speaker 2: really struggled with injuries the three previous years, but he
Speaker 2: had a healthy year this last year. I think that
Speaker 2: he actually might get to freegency because Tyler Smith, who
Speaker 2: they drafted is quite good.
Speaker 1: You know, GM Aaron is going to be all over
Speaker 1: that one.
Speaker 2: Right, and again it's a position that it's so bad.
Speaker 2: Michael Owen, who for the Patriots, who can play guard
Speaker 2: or tackle. I think he's best at right tackle. He's
Speaker 2: going to get paid a lot of money because there's
Speaker 2: just not many young players available. And then after that
Speaker 2: it's just like, come on, it's like Trent Brown, who's
Speaker 2: a bit of a nightmare in terms of injuries and
Speaker 2: like off field stuff where he'll have one good year
Speaker 2: and then he becomes a headache. He's the next guy,
Speaker 2: maybe Jonah Williams, who Bengals fans probably are in love with,
Speaker 2: but at least he can just play illumin or who
Speaker 2: is with the Raider.
Speaker 1: These guys can just play as those are where you
Speaker 1: get in trouble to sign it around.
Speaker 2: Jonah willis right, in some fun guy like I saw
Speaker 2: someone I did see that had Becton, you know, like
Speaker 2: Beckton might get some money just because he played last
Speaker 2: year and right, and there's no one available, so there's
Speaker 2: some projects out there, but but those positions get paid.
Speaker 2: You you mentioned Pittman, I think he will get tagged.
Speaker 2: I think Evans will get out there, though, and it
Speaker 2: is fascinating to think, like where could he go? And
Speaker 2: then I think of who else will get out there
Speaker 2: at wide receiver. Marquis Brown I think is gonna be
Speaker 2: that guy you mentioned. Not He's not gonna be like
Speaker 2: Galladay because I think he's a good player, but he's
Speaker 2: gonna make more than people expect because him and Ridley
Speaker 2: they're fast and they're available, and you kind of need
Speaker 2: three receivers and it can be one of your three receivers.
Speaker 2: They can be your two or year three. They're not
Speaker 2: your one, but a two like a Pittman is probably
Speaker 2: worth twenty million dollars a year now, So people are
Speaker 2: gonna have sticker shock, but Marky's Brown or Calvin Ridley
Speaker 2: will probably get twenty million.
Speaker 4: Well, it's like years in a row where the wide
Speaker 4: receiver paydays for free agency have been insane. I mean,
Speaker 4: I guess you could find a team that really needed
Speaker 4: wide out help and you could almost pair like a
Speaker 4: Marquis Brown with another wide receiver on the freegent market
Speaker 4: and completely change You mean, you like mark east Brown, but.
Speaker 1: You want to play twenty million for Markus Brown. I'll
Speaker 1: get a guy in the second round.
Speaker 2: But it's kind of like when Kirk Christian Kirk got
Speaker 2: paid seventeen million a year a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: and man, that looked bad at the time, and now
Speaker 2: I'm like, actually, he's pretty dependable and you need receivers
Speaker 2: and that's like an okay price.
Speaker 3: That's just how it is. I think, Yeah, like.
Speaker 4: You eyed up, no problem with you putting Higgins above Evans.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Higgins, you know, they could they
Speaker 4: could tag him too if they want, but like.
Speaker 2: Probably will tag him. But the Bengals are such a
Speaker 2: mysterious operation.
Speaker 4: Is that an age thing? A little bit for you
Speaker 4: with Evans? And like, because what I kind of wonder
Speaker 4: what kind of contract. I think Evans could find himself
Speaker 4: go to a playoff type team and be in a
Speaker 4: wonderful playing situation, but like, what do you pay him?
Speaker 3: Slip is he thirty thirty one, thirty one.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know problem paying them a lot
Speaker 4: of money, but it's like, is he that high?
Speaker 3: Three years from now?
Speaker 2: Right, he's come off one of his best seasons in
Speaker 2: a long time. He's kind of ages. I'm a little
Speaker 2: worried I have him too low that he should be
Speaker 2: even higher on this list. He'll be turning thirty one
Speaker 2: in August. But I would guess something like a two
Speaker 2: year fifty million dollar contract, you know where it's a
Speaker 2: three year contract, but it's really a two year fifty
Speaker 2: million dollar contract. Like, I see no reason why he
Speaker 2: wouldn't get paid. And the most surprising buzz to me
Speaker 2: is like the last week or two is that like, oh,
Speaker 2: the Bucks actually aren't going to pay him. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I totally believe that. It makes no sense
Speaker 2: to me, but that's that's what's out there. What do
Speaker 2: you think of obj now? As like eightieth on this list?
Speaker 2: I have gave Davis quite high.
Speaker 3: I like me.
Speaker 2: Some gave Davis. Curtis Samuel's another receiver. I think receivers
Speaker 2: are always fun to talk about.
Speaker 1: I have Beckham on my subcategory contract year fall stars
Speaker 1: at least in terms of your rankings, he's down at
Speaker 1: eighty three and his agent, who's who deserves a Presidential
Speaker 1: Medal of Freedom for what he's gotten Odell Beckham compared
Speaker 1: to the production over the last five or six years,
Speaker 1: you could point to again. Up by the end of
Speaker 1: the season, he was kind of looking like Odell again.
Speaker 1: And then you popped the hood and the analytics are
Speaker 1: pretty good. They said that he's a you know, a
Speaker 1: premium number two maybe wide receiver, but somebody else can
Speaker 1: pay for him. I know, for instance, my team was
Speaker 1: poking around before he went to the Ravens. I hope
Speaker 1: they don't again. I don't want like wrong side of
Speaker 1: thirty wide receivers that are going to be commanding a
Speaker 1: big salary when I could find somebody in the draft instead.
Speaker 2: I don't think you will this year.
Speaker 1: I think he I think he's gonna play on a
Speaker 1: one year deal again, like one year.
Speaker 3: The rest of his career is just one year for
Speaker 3: about half.
Speaker 2: The money that he made. But you have I think
Speaker 2: it's a bad spot. I think I think Gabe Davis,
Speaker 2: like you could talk yourself into there's a lot of
Speaker 2: untapped potential, a lot of big play, but even Darnell Mooney.
Speaker 2: I would rather have our guest on the show, kJ Osborne,
Speaker 2: I think is kind of a fun guy. I'd rather go.
Speaker 2: I'd rather go young.
Speaker 1: You have Austin Eckler by the way way down, which
Speaker 1: is like you have him twenty spots lower than Jameis Winston,
Speaker 1: I believe, which is wild to me. Uh And in general.
Speaker 2: I overrate the backup quarterbacks. I rank them side high.
Speaker 1: From what I understand, this is not a great running
Speaker 1: back draft class. So I would I would. I would
Speaker 1: say you probably should bump up some of these running backs.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it is I think telling
Speaker 1: that coming off last summer where we were all talking
Speaker 1: about all these running backs getting banged, these stars that
Speaker 1: aren't getting the contracts they want or deserve. And Eckler
Speaker 1: tried to get traded, you know, he tried to get
Speaker 1: a raise. Josh Jacob's held out, Saquon Barkley held out
Speaker 1: and got a ridiculous like that contract is more ridiculous
Speaker 1: with every day they gave him this absurd incentive deal,
Speaker 1: but he got no money out of it. What kind
Speaker 1: of money they get where they stack up. Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: is out there I'm curious. I love the idea of
Speaker 1: Derek Henry going somewhere on the right team goodbye more
Speaker 1: than any of those other players. I think Henry in
Speaker 1: the right setup could be a real dog for a team.
Speaker 4: I had the thought because the team that's gonna look
Speaker 4: so different on offense, I think will be the Greg
Speaker 4: Roman Harbaugh Chargers.
Speaker 3: Like, what about Derrick Henry behind justin HRB?
Speaker 2: That would be fun and I'll send him to the Chargers.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think they're gonna be a different type.
Speaker 1: Now they have Jim harbaught and now things will change.
Speaker 3: But I mean, what name of coaches want gonna want
Speaker 3: to go find a Maulinge run.
Speaker 1: I love it as a fit. Ye.
Speaker 2: I struggled with where to put him in Jacobs. Jacobs
Speaker 2: was about twenty spots Hire a year ago had a
Speaker 2: bad year and that kind of follows his career where
Speaker 2: three and a half yards per cars it's like one great.
Speaker 2: It did look much better the eye test, especially by
Speaker 2: the end. He's a great receiver. He's a complete back.
Speaker 2: But I have him and Henry around thirty and that's
Speaker 2: where to me, a lot of the good value in
Speaker 2: free agency actually comes as these one year deals for veterans,
Speaker 2: like you could say what you want about Clowney or
Speaker 2: even Zadarias Smith last year, who was paid more than Clowney. Certainly,
Speaker 2: it's like those guys who are actually bargains compared to
Speaker 2: paying the like fourteen to fifteen million dollars a year
Speaker 2: for some young guy, and Derrick Henry and Jacob's to
Speaker 2: me are like the veteran running back equivalent to that,
Speaker 2: but they're not gonna make much money. I think they're
Speaker 2: nice one year ads and position scarcity and the money
Speaker 2: is all a factor. So that's why I have guys
Speaker 2: like Pollard and DeAndre Swift and JK.
Speaker 3: Dobbins.
Speaker 2: I have them all ahead of Eckler because they're younger.
Speaker 2: I think Dobbins didn't look year now he did. I
Speaker 2: think Dobbins is actually I like guys some I always
Speaker 2: think teams should pay guys on two year deals coming
Speaker 2: off injury, because Dobbs could be in Dobbins could be
Speaker 2: like a nice longer term bet, even if he's coming.
Speaker 4: Out, Like seeing his name on this list, it's like
Speaker 4: this stuff raises by because it's like he's already going
Speaker 4: to free see that the one thing I got to
Speaker 4: bring up here because you got your QB, like you
Speaker 4: give his you give it the positional uh chart on
Speaker 4: how you rank these guys Obviously Kirk Cousins number one obviously,
Speaker 4: and I know I was like, where do you go
Speaker 4: from this?
Speaker 3: Cause it's not like plug and play star players.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of help at quarterback behind him, but
Speaker 4: you have Jacoby Brissette about Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was where I just had to go with
Speaker 2: my gut. I know I'm gonna that one is probably
Speaker 2: gonna get the most such a move push back of anything,
Speaker 2: but it fills a.
Speaker 3: Certain role for Greg that quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good one that's overlooked. You know what I decided
Speaker 2: to do. Mark was kind of split the difference. Be
Speaker 2: fair to Mayfield. They're they're both in the top. They're
Speaker 2: right around thirty, so it's not like they're that low
Speaker 2: in the one oh one. I was like, if I'm
Speaker 2: gonna stand up for Jacoby and really believe that he's
Speaker 2: Adulton Line type of quarterback just like I see Baker being,
Speaker 2: which has to me a lot of value, Like would
Speaker 2: you rather have that or would you rather have Derek Henry?
Speaker 2: I would rather have that. I think it's like some
Speaker 2: teams need that. It raises the floor of your team.
Speaker 2: So I put them right next to each other because
Speaker 2: I do think Jake Briskett is very similar to where
Speaker 2: Gino was a couple of years ago, where it's like
Speaker 2: he could step in and he could have brought your
Speaker 2: team to the playoffs. Last year, Dan he he could
Speaker 2: have with who with the Jets with Hackett maybe no,
Speaker 2: he would have improved their team a lot.
Speaker 3: I think that's the way.
Speaker 2: I truly believe that's a level he's playing at. He
Speaker 2: played it for the Browns. He looked fantastic in that
Speaker 2: Washington He's still only thirty one, he's learned a lot.
Speaker 2: Like to me, he's in his prime, and him and
Speaker 2: Mayfield kind of occupy a similar space. But ranking them
Speaker 2: versus like Robert Hunt or you know, Gave Davis.
Speaker 3: Is kind of impossible.
Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to you could where to put it,
Speaker 2: like a mid level quarterback. But that's where I truly
Speaker 2: believe Jake Briskett belongs that he's better than a de
Speaker 2: amount of corn.
Speaker 4: And you could argue because both of them played in
Speaker 4: the same offense that Stefanski had more success, you know,
Speaker 4: ultimately with Jacoby than he did with Baker.
Speaker 1: Jamis being your number five free agent quarterback is hilarious.
Speaker 1: Donald's he's Donald Tyler. Huntley is just personal and I'll be.
Speaker 3: A bigger some of those I'll be a bigger man.
Speaker 2: To be fair, Donald's moved up some of those some
Speaker 2: of those position ones you're looking at are a little off.
Speaker 2: He is on my long list of one oh one,
Speaker 2: whereas Huntley is not. So Donald has overtaken him. That
Speaker 2: might have been congratulations.
Speaker 1: That means it's time to take a break, or is
Speaker 1: there breaking news? What's happening back there, Funk? But really
Speaker 1: feel in the space right now?
Speaker 5: Well, I thought you wanted me to play it every
Speaker 5: time you mentioned one on one, and I've kind of been.
Speaker 1: That was I was good.
Speaker 3: Actually, I think it added some excitement.
Speaker 5: And then earlier you were like you were like you
Speaker 5: made the little DJ LIBB effects.
Speaker 2: So I have to take a little bit.
Speaker 1: Listen, Funk, explore the space back there. You're doing. Appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break, and when we come back, we
Speaker 1: will finish our conversation on the top of.
Speaker 4: One the quick that, like people don't realize we don't
Speaker 4: take we we say we're taking a break, and then
Speaker 4: we start talking one second later.
Speaker 1: In real life, you told the audience that like two
Speaker 1: weeks ago.
Speaker 4: I know, but it remains on my radar as a
Speaker 4: problematic for us.
Speaker 2: I would think, mark you, the last thing you would
Speaker 2: want to do is take a break and in the office.
Speaker 1: You're right, because we could start to take a break
Speaker 1: if you felt like it was like not authentic, take
Speaker 1: a go wasperiance.
Speaker 4: I just think it seems like but I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: with the listeners, but during that break, you have to
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Speaker 1: Read scrap all that we could actually, we could keep
Speaker 1: you here an extra fifteen minutes if we take authentic break. Negative, No,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll be right back. All right, we're back,
Speaker 1: and yes we are. If you're just joining us, this
Speaker 1: is going deep. Rosenthal one oh one, not to be
Speaker 1: confused with the hands of cessler tooth. Thir team is
Speaker 1: coming on the doorstep of free agency next month. Greg,
Speaker 1: let's get back into it. Let's dive in. So here's
Speaker 1: so QB's we just talked about running backs. There's some
Speaker 1: really big names there and a draft class that's not
Speaker 1: high on RB talent being told what is the what's
Speaker 1: a positional group? If you're a team that needs to
Speaker 1: plug a position where you're very excited because there's a
Speaker 1: lot of depth.
Speaker 2: As always, there's a ton of interesting quality safeties just
Speaker 2: teams just don't play safeties. They always feel like they
Speaker 2: can find them or replace them. But I think the
Speaker 2: linebacker discussion is probably more interesting because there are a
Speaker 2: lot of players available that are plug and play, mostly
Speaker 2: three down linebackers in their primes that are going to
Speaker 2: start next year, so that it's one of the only
Speaker 2: positions where you can look at and say, wow, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of guys that will I think get big contracts.
Speaker 2: Patrick Queen is one of them, coming from bald It's
Speaker 2: more Frankie Louvu from Carolina who's kind of been a gem,
Speaker 2: you know, diamond in the rough there but it's played
Speaker 2: really well. Jordan Brooks, who was a first round pick.
Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner's out there, Devin White, a couple of the
Speaker 2: Chiefs linebackers, Willie Gabe, Drew tranquill As, he's Alshai here
Speaker 2: who I really like for Tennessee. So a lot of
Speaker 2: linebackers and it's kind of a question of like it's
Speaker 2: a position that went really out of favor to the
Speaker 2: point where like teams almost ignored it, and now I
Speaker 2: wonder is it gonna start coming back in because we've
Speaker 2: seen these teams like Baltimore and San Francisco and even
Speaker 2: Kansas City has done a good job with their linebackers.
Speaker 2: Like if you have a three down linebacker, it's such
Speaker 2: an advantage because no one else does. And it's so
Speaker 2: hard to get these guys up to speed that a
Speaker 2: lot of I tend to think these guys like Queen
Speaker 2: and Louvu and Brooks, they're just coming into their prime.
Speaker 2: They had some major ups and downs the first couple
Speaker 2: of years because you have to learn coverage, and I
Speaker 2: think they will start getting paid in this market. I
Speaker 2: really struggled with where to put them.
Speaker 4: And Frankie Luvu like to me, every time you watch
Speaker 4: the Panthers, he's doing something and he's like the kind
Speaker 4: of perfect free agent pick up for me, because it's
Speaker 4: like you're not gonna have to blow the market to
Speaker 4: get him, but he's gonna be productive. We got to
Speaker 4: do you have any concern because Patrick Queen I thought
Speaker 4: was underwhelming for big chunks of.
Speaker 3: His time, then they didn't pick up your options.
Speaker 4: But Smith comes in and completely transformed very queen space
Speaker 4: on the field. So if you go and is that
Speaker 4: kind of like a classic, he's gonna get a ton
Speaker 4: of money and then he doesn't shine the way you.
Speaker 2: Very possibly unless it's Mike McDonald and Seattle giving it
Speaker 2: to him, and I would just like trust him. I
Speaker 2: don't feel good about that ranking and that feeling because
Speaker 2: I don't like how these rankings often and teams pay
Speaker 2: just off the contract year instead of looking at the
Speaker 2: froll four years, you know what I mean, or the
Speaker 2: average year that they have. And he's someone who's definitely
Speaker 2: like peeking at the right time.
Speaker 1: And I give it up to him because he really
Speaker 1: did have a good year, even if he didn't get
Speaker 1: the ten sacks. But you Davin Clowney is another guy
Speaker 1: with uh with Patrick Queen. Yeah, the Mike McDonald effect,
Speaker 1: like he was a perfect scheme deployed the right way
Speaker 1: and you saw their games jump up. Would that take
Speaker 1: place with a different team.
Speaker 2: It is fun to rank, Like see where Clowney's ranking
Speaker 2: go every year, just gets like a little bit lower,
Speaker 2: even though he had a great year. He's now forty one.
Speaker 2: He's right next to Levante David. He's the perfect like Levante,
Speaker 2: might I set the record one year of one value?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Like how I'm sure someone's tracking this, Like what player
Speaker 1: non special teams has the most one year contracts. He's
Speaker 1: got to be up to about five now.
Speaker 2: Yeaes Sue had a bunch in a row at the
Speaker 2: end of his career. I think a similar type of player.
Speaker 2: And uh, that's so, there's a lot of players like
Speaker 2: that that are like, wow, they could really help you.
Speaker 2: But it's just like, just give him one year and
Speaker 2: you'll help your team this year, Like a wait, one
Speaker 2: more linebacker ahead.
Speaker 1: One more linebacker. You didn't mention there? I don't think
Speaker 1: you did. Was Levante David? Yes, it was up there
Speaker 1: in years. But obviously he's one of the great linebackers
Speaker 1: and Bucks history. He could still great cover linebacker, which
Speaker 1: is so important. Obviously, even with his age, he has
Speaker 1: all the instincts. Still there is a very real world
Speaker 1: where the Bucks don't have Levonte d David or Mike
Speaker 1: Evans on the field in September like that. That's pretty wild.
Speaker 1: There the page into a new era in Bucks football.
Speaker 2: And Devin White, who you know, when you think of
Speaker 2: that that super Bowl team, he made the All Pro
Speaker 2: team back then and he was almost on his way.
Speaker 2: It felt like to becoming a superstar. Yes, and I
Speaker 2: have him ranked really low because he just seems like
Speaker 2: he drives the coaches.
Speaker 3: They're crazy.
Speaker 2: And I think it'll be controversy last year, the last
Speaker 2: couple of years really or whatever. And I tend to
Speaker 2: think they will. They will keep Levante David as they
Speaker 2: did a year ago. He was a free agent a
Speaker 2: year ago, and that'll say a lot that they're happy
Speaker 2: to just let uh Devin White go. The you mentioned Clowney.
Speaker 2: That is one position where it's like, man, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of good defensive like defensive end, offensive lineman of bille.
Speaker 2: If you need like five hundred quality snaps out of
Speaker 2: interior or defensive end, that's I think where the sweet
Speaker 2: spot is in free agency.
Speaker 3: I love some of these guys like Andrew van Ginkel.
Speaker 2: I really like that he's great.
Speaker 4: He'd be a good signing, like you know, like I
Speaker 4: thought Zadarius Smith was a huge difference maker across from
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett and Cleveland. And if you go back, if
Speaker 4: you're the Browns and you don't resign him and you
Speaker 4: don't find someone to go do that same thing.
Speaker 3: That defense is completely mar.
Speaker 2: But you can't. That's a good thing for a team
Speaker 2: like them, Like you can find someone whether it's there's
Speaker 2: a lot about him or it's like a Leonard Floyd Klay.
Speaker 2: Dj Wanham was an okay player for Minnesota, Like there
Speaker 2: are players your guy, Bryce Huff I think is gonna
Speaker 2: be an interesting guy to watch. I struggled with where
Speaker 2: to put him because all he does is win when
Speaker 2: it comes to like past win rate is like godlike.
Speaker 2: And yeah, he pops off the screen too. He just
Speaker 2: is so explosive. Yet you know, he never earned the
Speaker 2: full trust to get like, you know, fifty snaps a game.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why that is, but I think he's
Speaker 2: gonna make a lot of money. So they didn't because
Speaker 2: he's young.
Speaker 1: Based on the playing time that Jets staff didn't trust
Speaker 1: him against the run. So if he is somebody that's
Speaker 1: limited in that in that respect and and that doesn't develop,
Speaker 1: then you're paying for like just a pure pass rusher.
Speaker 1: And how much money? How much money does he get?
Speaker 1: Like he is a guy I fear because they they
Speaker 1: made the mistake. I thought of taking Will McDonald last
Speaker 1: year when they had so much depth at defensive line,
Speaker 1: and now they're probably gonna let Huff walk because they
Speaker 1: have this first round pick that they need to develop.
Speaker 1: A team could get a guy that's like an eighteen
Speaker 1: sack guy and and if he develops in the other
Speaker 1: end of the game, he's an all pro. So I
Speaker 1: think he's a guy like give me give me a
Speaker 1: chance on Huff if I'm a team out there more
Speaker 1: than pay big money for Chase Young who a little
Speaker 1: bit maybe of issues I think voter and the health
Speaker 1: issues with the surgery. Like give me a guy with upside.
Speaker 1: I think West used to talk about that with Fantasy
Speaker 1: sports a lot, and probably maybe it holds for this,
Speaker 1: like give me the upside shot of a guy being
Speaker 1: a real stud rather than kind of paying a premium
Speaker 1: for a guy that has a much lower floor.
Speaker 4: And the Jets are not in great cap situation at
Speaker 4: the moment either, so it's like, how would they value
Speaker 4: the Huff thing?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Jonathan Garnard is another guy who get paid a lot
Speaker 2: of money off the edge. There's a lot of different
Speaker 2: options there. You mentioned Wes see the Jacoby Preset thing.
Speaker 2: This is where I need Wes for. You asked, how
Speaker 2: long have I been doing it. I did it for
Speaker 2: a few years before coming here, one year without west here,
Speaker 2: and then you know, we would have our battles, we
Speaker 2: would have our two lists, we would bring them together.
Speaker 2: I still got some of those lists from west Son
Speaker 2: saved on my you know, laptop and my Google docs
Speaker 2: and everything. And he would know I would like Jacoby
Speaker 2: too much, so then he would purposely rank him even
Speaker 2: lower than he wanted to even it out. And I
Speaker 2: can't argue with the checks and balances are I'll.
Speaker 1: Never forget the jams. Who was founded on the jamis
Speaker 1: Winston Marcus Mariota battles between Lesson.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure who won that.
Speaker 2: We both lost in the end. I think the listeners
Speaker 2: lost well.
Speaker 1: According to your rankings, he's one of the top free
Speaker 1: agents out there.
Speaker 3: He is ninety.
Speaker 2: If there's something I stand on the hill and Ryan
Speaker 2: Tannehill's there too, that a backup quarterback is worth a lot.
Speaker 2: It's worth maybe more than a replacement level safe or
Speaker 2: like a rotational linebacker. And I think they're underpaid. So
Speaker 2: that's I rank them that way that to me, they're
Speaker 2: more important. I struggled with where to put Minshew, Where
Speaker 2: to put Josh Dobbs. She is low, min She's a
Speaker 2: little low. He's just reliable.
Speaker 1: I mean like he'shead and a career loser. And one
Speaker 1: guy is stepped in in a nice job last year.
Speaker 1: How could they be so different?
Speaker 2: There's different They're right next to each other on the list.
Speaker 1: But why is the guy that really stepped in and
Speaker 1: did well last year behind the guy that went into
Speaker 1: victory formation and called a touchdown run.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not knocking him respectfully, Minshew. I think
Speaker 2: if you peak behind the he actually finished the season
Speaker 2: playing well, but I don't think he was playing that well.
Speaker 1: Most of it was fine.
Speaker 2: Jamis. Jamis has been a productive player, is still relatively young.
Speaker 2: I think he's more talented. They're close, though, but if
Speaker 2: you need a backup, though, there's a million flavors.
Speaker 3: Jamis Dobbs was out there.
Speaker 2: Who's probably gonna end up on the one oh one
Speaker 2: once the tags happened because he's right outside. Tyrod actually
Speaker 2: played pretty well. Darnold's out there, Mason Rudolph's out there,
Speaker 2: Drew Locks out there. There's like kind of all of
Speaker 2: those lives.
Speaker 3: Is Tyana Hill.
Speaker 4: Too good to be a backup? I mean, does he
Speaker 4: take a starter's job away if there's issues? I mean
Speaker 4: I kind of liked him.
Speaker 1: Maybe I over think he's like the Baker this year
Speaker 1: where he's going to sign somewhere where he was a chance.
Speaker 3: I would have had him way.
Speaker 2: I did a list earlier in August, like before the season,
Speaker 2: and he was so much higher. So was one of
Speaker 2: his old teammates, Christian Fulton, who's in my top twenty.
Speaker 2: And his play this year spooked me a little bit
Speaker 2: that like, oh yeah, this guy is thirty six years.
Speaker 4: Old and he gets seen moment well, but behind a
Speaker 4: terirball offensive line with a lack of skilled positions.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but I just started to thinking, Okay, maybe he's
Speaker 2: reaching that Matt Ryan part of the career. Not everyone's
Speaker 2: going to be Aaron Rodgers. And you know, before this
Speaker 2: year and playing so great at thirty seven, thirty's.
Speaker 4: Still if I were Pittsburgh and I know that there
Speaker 4: they've got their whatever they're doing over there. But like
Speaker 4: you just pick up Tannehill paring with Arthur Smith and
Speaker 4: there you go.
Speaker 2: Right, why not?
Speaker 1: I mean, do more.
Speaker 4: Well, do more also, but I'm saying they'll do nothing.
Speaker 4: Route It's like there's a ton of OUs in the closet.
Speaker 1: By the way, a lot of listeners reached out about
Speaker 1: the summer. What is the summer in a day? The
Speaker 1: Ray Bradbury tail about the poor girl locked in the closet,
Speaker 1: and now all Pittsburgh fans locked in that closet wanting
Speaker 1: to be let out to see the sunshine.
Speaker 3: He really connected with the with the listeners, they.
Speaker 2: Really think I have to think about the entire story
Speaker 2: again to even understand why this applies to the Steelers.
Speaker 1: But she used to be on Earth and she saw
Speaker 1: the sun regular that was the right peak be big Ben. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she knew what it looked like to see in an
Speaker 1: exciting offense in Pittsburgh, and now she's in this other
Speaker 1: world planet.
Speaker 2: Who are the other girls locking the Steelers in the closet?
Speaker 2: The GM okay, okay, the Steelers themselves, the.
Speaker 4: Girls, the Steelers fans or the football viewer?
Speaker 5: Yeah what Randy, Sorry, I'm sorry that was Nixon.
Speaker 2: No, don't tell us that.
Speaker 3: I just liked it. It was good.
Speaker 1: It was yeah, So let us say, you know, Mason
Speaker 1: Rudolph probably is holding that door closed, and sure, I'm
Speaker 1: sure he has a role in it.
Speaker 3: Venus is closer to the sun. That's all. I don't
Speaker 3: get the I can'cel.
Speaker 1: Take it up with the estate of Ray Bradberry he
Speaker 1: passed away in two thousand.
Speaker 4: I mean, he had a firm grasp on science fiction.
Speaker 4: So I'm not gonna go nuts with it.
Speaker 2: But one of the things you noticed doing this exercise,
Speaker 2: what teams pop up a lot early in this list
Speaker 2: and for such a terrible roster. I was like, man,
Speaker 2: a lot of the Patriots best players are free agents now,
Speaker 2: like they are in a tough spot. Kyle Duggar is
Speaker 2: a top twenty five player on this list. There's some
Speaker 2: dis I'm a little lower in him than some others,
Speaker 2: but I still like him. He's a big playmaker on
Speaker 2: When You is one of the best offensive linemen on
Speaker 2: the list. Trent Brown is one of the best offensive
Speaker 2: linemen on this Hunter Henry is my number two tight
Speaker 2: end on this list, but behind Dalton Schultz. It's like
Speaker 2: this is a bad roster that's about to get work.
Speaker 3: You could see every one of those players going somewhere else.
Speaker 2: We do think they all were maybe Dugger. I don't
Speaker 2: even know.
Speaker 1: We need to come up with a list of overly
Speaker 1: familiar free agency one O one names. It would have
Speaker 1: like Hunter, Henry curt Of, Samuel. I'm not saying they're
Speaker 1: bad players. I feel like we're always talking about these guys.
Speaker 2: Leonard Williams is now become a somewhat regular.
Speaker 4: I do wonder with New England because they got the
Speaker 4: second most cap from in the league, like new leadership.
Speaker 4: What do you do there? Like, are you gonna spend
Speaker 4: it on the market? I hope you need to.
Speaker 2: I have a feeling Robert Crafts has this storyline in
Speaker 2: his head in New England that he doesn't spend money.
Speaker 1: Sorry, is this the rainfall sound effect?
Speaker 5: Yeah? He talked about not seeing the sun, so I
Speaker 5: was looking for rain I.
Speaker 2: Don't like that we have to make it like five
Speaker 2: minutes every time. I like it, though. I just like
Speaker 2: having random sounds.
Speaker 1: Viny at this, thank you, thank you for that, you're
Speaker 1: doing great fun anything else? I want to say the
Speaker 1: one oh one number one on one. Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did want to talk about this. I really
Speaker 2: debated it. I was thinking of like it this year.
Speaker 2: This is not a final list either, so you guys
Speaker 2: can have some influence if you want. Michael Thomas is
Speaker 2: the choice right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the guy that does He hold
Speaker 1: the all time single season catch record.
Speaker 3: Still feels like four years, four thousand years.
Speaker 1: It feels that way, but I think it was twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: He was the offensive player of the year, a lot
Speaker 1: of injuries, finally stayed somewhat healthy last year and is
Speaker 1: no longer the guy, but as a one o.
Speaker 4: One a little bit of a like locker room menis yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean more than a little bit aw.
Speaker 1: Some issues, I believe, nothing too serious.
Speaker 2: He has spent a decent amount of this offseason. I've
Speaker 2: I've held back on bringing up on the show burying
Speaker 2: Derek Carr again like it's happened more. That was now
Speaker 2: a month ago, but he made it very clear to
Speaker 2: the point Derek Carr like had to respond while like
Speaker 2: doing some sponsor obligation in a locker New Orleans and
Speaker 2: just said, I want the best for Mike. I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know why he's doing this more or less.
Speaker 1: So whoever, whoever gets Michael Tomas, you better hope that
Speaker 1: he likes your quarterback. But he's like, for instance, I
Speaker 1: know this isn't how you do the one on one
Speaker 1: because there's a little like Twitter and the lack of punctuation,
Speaker 1: little winking nod to the whole thing. Yes, you need
Speaker 1: to find that heart that that wouldn't move the needle.
Speaker 3: Ness should have been jamis okay.
Speaker 2: So I thought about Minchew. I thought about but I
Speaker 2: wanted Minschew a little higher on the list.
Speaker 3: He's gotten would have been wasn't one one year?
Speaker 2: Gino was one on one, which, in hindsight, way too low,
Speaker 2: way too low.
Speaker 1: Gonna put Teddy Bridgewater on this list this year? How
Speaker 1: mad did it? It was sad, but he's helping the
Speaker 1: of America.
Speaker 2: I thought Josh Dobbs would be a fun one on one,
Speaker 2: but I tend to do that where it's always some
Speaker 2: like uh out of lett, you know, kind of like
Speaker 2: field quarterback. And I thought Michael Thomas was a nice
Speaker 2: change of paying.
Speaker 1: Have Austin Eckler at ninety two. I understand why that's
Speaker 1: so low. That's he's almost off the list. Greg, Well,
Speaker 1: he won't be saying, all right, I did not check
Speaker 1: this out of curiosity. I'm going to check one of
Speaker 1: your competitors. I won't. I won't say what it is
Speaker 1: that seems I feel like Wes he's back on that
Speaker 1: ninety is.
Speaker 2: What is Eckler giving you right now? That he's a
Speaker 2: Devin singletary, isn't who's not on the list for He's.
Speaker 1: Maybe the best pass catching running back in the league
Speaker 1: outside of McCaffrey. And I know he didn't look great
Speaker 1: last year, but maybe he was beat up. I mean
Speaker 1: ninety two I was.
Speaker 4: I have a list from a metric site that we
Speaker 4: mentioned previously.
Speaker 3: He's at fifty six, okay on their list.
Speaker 1: Live with that. I could live with fifty six.
Speaker 3: Where the comp is Dion Lewis.
Speaker 1: Where in the eighteen where's Josh Jacobs on your list?
Speaker 2: He's second thirty two or something.
Speaker 1: He had average three and a half yards of carry
Speaker 1: last year.
Speaker 2: Got more juice, move is better.
Speaker 4: He did get better after McDaniels left, and then he
Speaker 4: got hurt again.
Speaker 2: Eckler's had a lot of wear and tear on a
Speaker 2: relatively small.
Speaker 1: Body and just no tell Matt Harmon about this. I'm
Speaker 1: using my I'm telling Harmon right now, I do a
Speaker 1: show together.
Speaker 2: It's some of those plays that you called out Dan
Speaker 2: during the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the piano on his back.
Speaker 2: Lack of explosiveness with a running back I found, you
Speaker 2: don't want to chase him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn piano on his back.
Speaker 3: You got to take that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with running backs, you don't want to chase the rebound.
Speaker 2: At age twenty nine, I think it's.
Speaker 1: A sensible contract.
Speaker 2: It's safer to just be like, okay that I wouldn't
Speaker 2: mind him in like a committee situation.
Speaker 1: Two years with the club option and maybe he was
Speaker 1: dealing with things and he comes back rejuvenated. I just
Speaker 1: think that's almost off the one on one extreme.
Speaker 3: I'll move him up a little yet.
Speaker 1: Like literally like forty touchdowns the previous two years, didn't
Speaker 1: have any season career derailing injury.
Speaker 2: All Right, I might move him up at six spots
Speaker 2: in favor Packers guard John Runyon and Jets safety Jordan Whitehead.
Speaker 3: It is really annoying.
Speaker 1: Whitehead has a nose for the football.
Speaker 2: These guards keep them behind white Head. Ranking these guards
Speaker 2: because like finding out who likes what guards or what
Speaker 2: the league like, and just like pretending I really have
Speaker 2: a hot takeout of John Simpson, who's in my top fifty,
Speaker 2: and Lloyd Cushion Berry, who's a nice young center. But
Speaker 2: it's like, you guys are fine with one on one.
Speaker 2: You're fine with Michael Thomas. I guess because he's.
Speaker 1: Yes, No, I think this other one.
Speaker 2: It's actually kind of hurting his value because in the end,
Speaker 2: with players getting taken off and added, like, it'll be
Speaker 2: like the he should be like eight eighties.
Speaker 1: I would put him in the eighties and put Jamis
Speaker 1: at one on one, but we're not going to fight
Speaker 1: that battle.
Speaker 2: Jamis isn't a fun one on one. Michael Thomas is fun.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: You know what I did this year. I made sure
Speaker 2: to check that free agent kicker list and have respect
Speaker 2: for the position, and I realized quite an underrated kicker
Speaker 2: is worthy. He's in my top ninety Kyami Fairbard shout
Speaker 2: out to oh yeah, keep along, Miami Fairman. Maybe he
Speaker 2: should be even higher.
Speaker 1: Where do you have him?
Speaker 2: Uh, he's like in the top ninety. Oh just got
Speaker 2: cut a year ago. If you've been annoying with as
Speaker 2: a kicker within a year, then I you don't make
Speaker 2: the top one hundred. But Kyamie Fairman has been awesome
Speaker 2: in the last two years. I feel like he deserves it.
Speaker 1: Greg the leg zerline was a monster this special year.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize he's in free agency.
Speaker 2: He's a free agency.
Speaker 1: Got to lock him up. We got tagg his ass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably will give Fairman a nice little deal,
Speaker 2: big bone.
Speaker 1: Randy's out there. Dick or the Kicker he is not.
Speaker 2: He would have been. I honestly would have put Dick
Speaker 2: or the Kicker in the top fifty or something. But
Speaker 2: he's one of those fake exclusive right now. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: he has no actual bargaining all.
Speaker 1: Right, anything else, Greg, I think you did an excellent job.
Speaker 1: Minor quibbles overall. Certainly it's going to seem complete when
Speaker 1: compared to the free agency two thirteen. But honestly, uh,
Speaker 1: that's just that's not even your fault. That's more our
Speaker 1: our ambition towering over all rival.
Speaker 4: And we and you know, according to our plan, we
Speaker 4: need to probably get to work in the next hour
Speaker 4: or two on that.
Speaker 1: Oh, send the bots the box stork, you know.
Speaker 2: Scheduling Note, we're not scheduled to be back till Tuesday.
Speaker 2: There'll be NFL combine. We'll be talking about all those
Speaker 2: press conference. But you guys have a long weekend in
Speaker 2: front of you. Of just in the lab watch and
Speaker 2: tape works.
Speaker 1: A couple It's a couple of dropdowns and then an
Speaker 1: enter click, and then we we go get a couple
Speaker 1: of beers, and we come back and most of the
Speaker 1: work's done quite frankly beautiful. Yeah, that's how it works.
Speaker 3: I think, Well, it's gonna work fun.
Speaker 1: Does it comb? Does it literally comb through the Internet
Speaker 1: and grab bits and pieces of everyone else?
Speaker 4: I mean it will probably grab some of Greg's so
Speaker 4: that's what we're gonna have to be careful of.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll replace some of the more obvious bits of
Speaker 1: plagiarism with a little Sessler flair.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: I would like, uh, thank you, n I would like
Speaker 2: to c ana I bought try to generate an average
Speaker 2: Mark Sessler, but that.
Speaker 1: We're going to supplement the AI with some seslerisms.
Speaker 4: Really just to sneak it past, you know, editorial to
Speaker 4: a couple of keywords and they believe that we've done
Speaker 4: all the work.
Speaker 1: I come in with a happy Gilmore reference.
Speaker 3: Dan's back to his old tricks.
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, what about Live Like they really bang
Speaker 2: themselves by calling themselves live before the Internet.
Speaker 1: You know. I make a couple like Logan Roy references
Speaker 1: here and there send glory. Glory is ours? All right, Randy,
Speaker 1: you did a nice job. Who's the Kendall Roy of
Speaker 1: the free agency list? Mm hmm, it's a good one
Speaker 1: to think about, all right, Randy, get back to us
Speaker 1: in exactly one week. Thank you for filling in my pleasure,
Speaker 1: all right till Monday. Tuesday he the call.