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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast is absolutely certain your team

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Speaker 1: will nail free agency. Where I'm the Chris Westling podcast studio,

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Speaker 1: It's around the NFL. I am Dan Hansis. I have

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Speaker 1: heroes here. I do Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler. Free

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Speaker 1: agency is around the Corner Boys, the Greg Rosenthal Top

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Speaker 1: one oh one conversation on this show today live on

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com Monday. And I've been thinking, Mark, I

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Speaker 1: did some real thought about this exciting. So we're doing

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Speaker 1: our competing and I just want to make it clear.

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Speaker 1: This is not about one upsmanship of you, Greg, It's

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Speaker 1: not None of this is personal. This is just business.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Competing would indicate it's a little I don't know our element,

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Speaker 2: but the point of a competent to win, not to lose, right.

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Speaker 1: But it's business. You ever hear that term. It's business,

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Speaker 1: not personal. It's a bit. This is business. So this

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Speaker 1: is what I'm thinking Mark. Greg has a one on one,

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Speaker 1: He's got one hundred and one blurbs. We wanted to

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Speaker 1: was checking out the PFF, which is a widely respected

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Speaker 1: put out a free agency two hundred okay, So now

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Speaker 1: this is our joint past. I want people to say that,

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Speaker 1: because like PFF did one hundred and fifty blurbs, Greg's

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Speaker 1: this is the most important. Do we preempt Greg? We

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Speaker 1: Remember Mayok. Everyone was like, oh, Mack seventy four, he

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Speaker 1: Because I'm in deep right now you're trying to get

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Speaker 4: I do think there could be some fair questions about

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Speaker 1: In fact, my biggest concern really is that if we

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Speaker 1: the Thursday edition of Around the NFL Behind the Glass today,

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Speaker 1: by the way, sitting in for the great Eric Roberts,

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Speaker 1: who is with his lovely wife and they're they're doing

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Speaker 1: they're on that wonderful journey towards their first child landing

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Speaker 1: on Earth, and they have an appointment of some kind.

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Speaker 1: What do they call it? Sonogram? Yeah, Sonogram, Big Funk

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Speaker 1: Big funk, big chair. He ain't scared. What's up about?

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Speaker 5: What's happening?

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Speaker 1: Guys? We could have went for another hour, but dang

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Speaker 2: Big funk at the best intro music Mark are no

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Speaker 1: Brandy Chavez, what's happening, Big fonk, Big Funk?

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Speaker 2: Our our our podcast was now just a hangout podcast.

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Speaker 2: Were just like, Hey, what's going on?

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Speaker 5: How are you, buddy? I'm doing good. How about you guys?

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Speaker 5: This is interesting, This feels uh feels different.

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Speaker 1: It's new.

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Speaker 4: You're feel like control, a rush of power. Keep it

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Speaker 1: Yeah. How does it feel to be uh potentially have

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Speaker 5: I mean it's it's tempting to abuse it, right. Power

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Speaker 3: The great Cynthia who does incredible work on our show.

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Speaker 5: Sesska, what is this?

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Speaker 3: We'll do I want to keep it.

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Speaker 1: How about that. What a move by Randy.

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Speaker 5: You snap justin fields off the left side, free play

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Speaker 5: for Justin worked it down the left side.

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Speaker 2: He's got DJ board at the time.

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Speaker 3: We'ping into the end zone for the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Touchdown pairs in their backet front. So many big moments

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Speaker 1: We talked about in the news that Justin Fields had

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Speaker 3: I already noticed this. I do not never being that

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Speaker 1: This is the newer thing now. Podcasts are hugely popular

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Speaker 1: Saint Brown on the Saint Brown Bros. Podcast posted on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Here is Justin Fields when asked about his move to

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Speaker 1: unfollow the Bears on social media. Oooh, why do.

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Speaker 6: People take social media so seriously?

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Speaker 1: But like.

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Speaker 6: This and that, like I still mess with the Bears

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Speaker 6: not trying to have football on my timeline.

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Speaker 1: It's big times beautiful timing. In other news, I love

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Speaker 1: this story. Uh, And listeners of this pod, you know

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Speaker 1: That that's true, they kept the head coach.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we kind of flashpoint Flashpoint focused this a

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Speaker 1: We'll have a sit down. Yeah, we'll just stop. We'll

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Speaker 2: I love that for the Eagles, you do. I don't

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Speaker 2: One of those local reporters and I know he's respected

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Speaker 2: Stuff like that. You like to be you like to

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Speaker 1: I've done this as well. Sometimes you don't capitalize and

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Speaker 4: It's a choice, and he's he's you know, I don't

439
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 4: think I know that Greg, as the editor of the

440
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 4: Around the NFL section of the website, understands basic and

441
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 4: also complex grammatic Twitter.

442
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 2: The rules are different on Twitter. You know, it's a

443
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 2: it's a lighter medium, it's not worthy of punctures.

444
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 3: Think it helps you appear youthful, and you know.

445
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 1: It's a bad pocket. We're bad at this. Now, let's

446
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,439
Speaker 1: move on, let's get into Oh all right, you know

447
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: what I'm going to get out of the way. Yeah, right.

448
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: I feel like we're this year is the good news.

449
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: I feel like we're running out of these where I

450
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: have to throw it to Greg because it's a patriot retiring,

451
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: because how many more can there be? Because now we're

452
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,239
Speaker 1: at special Special Team's ace Matthew Slater and uh, if

453
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: we're at the Special Teams as we have to be

454
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: near the end.

455
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, Tantaia High Tower was just hired as part

456
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 2: of this staff. So like, we'll we'll now get to

457
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 2: live through these guys as coaches, which I'm tough, I don't.

458
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 1: Well, we don't have to live. Yeah, that's a personal look.

459
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: If Bill Belichick says that he's the greatest core special

460
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 2: teams player.

461
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,479
Speaker 1: And music under this, go ahead, and I don't need

462
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 1: it to be long.

463
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, let's give.

464
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: Us a little inspiration out there. Yeah.

465
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 2: Uh, Matthew Slater is the best special teams core player

466
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 2: in the history of the league, according to Bill Belichick,

467
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 2: a pretty great expert on special.

468
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 3: I thought he was an expert on football until nobody

469
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 3: hired him.

470
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: Ten, ten time Pro Bowl, Pro Bowler, two time First

471
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 2: Team All Pro. I don't think that makes you Hall

472
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: of Famer personally, but a Ring of Honor guy for

473
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 2: the Patriots, and just uh, you know, a unique career,

474
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: the son of an all time great, Jackie Slater.

475
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: The one thing about.

476
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: Just give some just give some love to a special

477
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 2: team's ace.

478
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 4: And it was a fifth round pick who really was

479
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 4: in danger of not making the team right out of

480
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 4: the gate and made this choice to make special teams

481
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 4: his thing I always found a weird because I'll never

482
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 4: forget go into the rams, like intro in Los Angeles,

483
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: where it was like they brought all the La Press

484
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 4: in into you know who blown all that business. But

485
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 4: like Jackie Slater, like a Hall of Famer was there.

486
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 4: And Jackie Slater is six foot four, two hundred and

487
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 4: seventy seven pounds, and Matt Slater is six feet tall

488
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 4: two hundred and five pounds. Do you don't typically see

489
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 4: a son that isn't like?

490
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 3: Why didn't you?

491
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,959
Speaker 4: I would have thought odds On would say, you produce

492
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 4: another like starter tackle.

493
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: She's three ft six is rio perp?

494
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 4: Well I was Actually that was where my mind went,

495
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 4: the mom or someone must be very small in the

496
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 4: equation and.

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Speaker 1: There are generations to get skipped a certain thing. Yes,

498
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: and we don't know the whole story. I mean you know,

499
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: I mean, now now that I got the Twitter that

500
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: here's to the genetics. Okay, it's it's a science, but

501
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: an uneven science in a way. You care for me.

502
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: You've made it.

503
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 3: No, you've made it so crystal clear for me.

504
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: I mean you're making it sound like six foot two

505
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: five is some like mini guy. It's not but he'd

506
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: be like, oh, that's it.

507
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 4: It's how often are you four inches shorter and seventy

508
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 4: pounds later than your than your dad. That was also

509
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 4: Jackie Slater's playing weight. Yeah, he's trimmed down a little,

510
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 4: but he's not a he's not dominuative.

511
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: Jackie Slater's tell me only fifty percent of the DNA

512
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 1: of Matthew Slater comes from Jackie.

513
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 3: I did not know that. That's that's what we need.

514
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: Okay, that's uh, that's what's happening in the news before. Actually,

515
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 1: let's take a break and then I want to cover

516
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: one bit of behind the scenes. Uh, you a massive

517
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: conversation that needs to be had, and then we're gonna

518
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: get to the one on one. Let's take a break.

519
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: Welcome back. So you may I remember about a week

520
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: or so we can have or so before the super

521
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: Bowl we had our annual don't say super Bowl episode

522
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: or you cannot utter the words, and if you do,

523
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: there's a monetary penalty. And all three of us incurred

524
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: fines also, And this maybe seems a little unfair. Eric

525
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: I announced after the fact, anything that he missed in

526
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: terms of the buzzer, he would have to pick up

527
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: the fine. So he's into this now the pot and

528
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: then we were like, all right, what are we gonna

529
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 1: do with the money, and got an idea, So Big Funk,

530
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 1: let's bring back Big Funk behind the glass. What's up?

531
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 2: He didn't really go anywhere where?

532
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 5: Where's this gone?

533
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: All right? What's up, Funk?

534
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 5: What's happening?

535
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: Big Funk has had a distinguished for a young man,

536
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: a distinguished career in broadcasting. Part of his journey was

537
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: at a radio station. And I don't know, I can't

538
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: speak to any of the the talent working there, either

539
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: good or bad. And so this isn't a hit piece

540
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: your former employer. I don't know. If you want to

541
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: name them, that's up to you. I mean, do you

542
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: think you know where I'm going?

543
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 5: By the way, I have a hunch.

544
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: But anyway, it was like a z Morning Zoo type thing,

545
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: and there was a there was a radio bit where

546
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: the die hard Packers fan Randy Chavez was offered a

547
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: sum of money. How much Funk one thousand bucks? One

548
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: g whoa ten rocks if he got a tattoo of

549
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: a rival of the Packers on his body? Yeah, the

550
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: catch of course being it must be done live on air,

551
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: and I think we do we have any footage from

552
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: this incident, any rival.

553
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 5: Well I'll explain in a second here.

554
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: All right, and now we're watching it on this radio.

555
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: When was this? How long ago is this? Oh?

556
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 5: Man, this is like three four years ago. Fun fact,

557
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 5: the guy tattooing, he's onic masters.

558
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: Oh, very good, so at least it was something professional.

559
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: So there's funk. And check it out on the YouTube channel.

560
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: It looks painful, honest, thigh and it looks like a

561
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears.

562
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: Wow. If you can subscribe to our Patreon, you can

563
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: see an exclusive.

564
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 3: Version of this, which is what I'm crazy, So it

565
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: really is.

566
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 5: I haven't seen this video in years.

567
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: This is so we might have to blur it. It's

568
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: it's it's that salacious and sexy but funk. So yes,

569
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: here's what the plan is. Because I don't like that

570
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: I can take it. I don't want I personally to

571
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: put a young radio producer in that position like, hey,

572
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: for the bid on the show, tattoo yourself and we'll

573
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: give you some money. Like when I was however old

574
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: you were there, twenty three years old or whatever, I

575
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: would have taken the thousand two because I had to

576
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: pay rent. So I have an issue. Now here's the question, Yeah,

577
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: are you okay with that tattoo in the modern times

578
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: or does it annoy you a little bit that it's

579
00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: still on your leg.

580
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie it does It does annoy me

581
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 5: a little bit more so because every time I go

582
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 5: anywhere at all, usually someone I roll with. Whenever there's

583
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 5: like a lull, like a little bit of silence, it's

584
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 5: always like, you know, Randy has a Bears tattoo.

585
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's exactly where we step in on this podcast.

586
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: With the money that we've raised from don't say super Bowl,

587
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: and perhaps with the help of the listeners, I propose

588
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: we eliminate that tattoo for Mandy's like, either through laser

589
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: removal or or go the Johnny deppro out the Wino

590
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: Forever oute, where we could modify it and turn it

591
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: into something else. I know it was fairly intricate. How

592
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: do you feel about How do you feel about that

593
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: as a possibility.

594
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not opposed to it, right, I don't

595
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 5: get me wrong the tattoo. The tattoo is a funny reminder.

596
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 5: I guess depends how you conserve funny of what I use,

597
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 5: like where it was before years ago. I have no

598
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 5: problem covering it up.

599
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: But that's it's near. It's merely an option of course,

600
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, So if if Randy is if that's

601
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: something he would want, like if that's ever something that

602
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: crossed your mind, like if I could do it over

603
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: again and get rid of it, or if I could,

604
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, cover it up somehow. We be around the

605
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: NFL podcast and our our listeners are here to help.

606
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: Well, after viewing the tattoo, I I don't think we

607
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: can cover it up like we were like, oh, can

608
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: we change it into the packers?

609
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: Look, it's like no, they can do amazing things. Though

610
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: I know that I don't have tattoos myself, but they

611
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: can do amazing tattoo.

612
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: It's the it's the face. It's got to be too tough.

613
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: I think it either needs to be.

614
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: It's a very greg thing to just assume that that

615
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: can't because I feel like if we got someone on

616
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: the phone he's like, oh yeah, we could definitely do something.

617
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 4: Well, the guy that it probably knows he sounds like

618
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 4: his career, but I don't know if we can get him.

619
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 4: But you could also catch like f you Chicago bars.

620
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 5: So my backup plan, my backup plan was like I

621
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 5: would just write sucks underneath it sometime. I mean, I've

622
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 5: I've added more pieces to my leg since. But I mean,

623
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 5: you know, I'm I'm not a I have nothing. I

624
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 5: love tattoos, so I have no problem adding more stuff

625
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 5: to my leg. It's it's just, you know, it tells

626
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 5: a story to me. It's memories I have. I don't

627
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 5: have the best memory, but looking at tattoos, it reminds

628
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 5: me of where I was, and it takes me back

629
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 5: to a place.

630
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: So you seem somewhat attached to it.

631
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 5: Actually, no, it's just it's not I don't like the Bears.

632
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 5: I'm a Packers fan, so and.

633
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: We're certainly not gonna do what those shock jocks did

634
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: once upon a time and put pressure on you. It's

635
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: merely an option if if you want to go down

636
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: that road.

637
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 5: I wouldn't mind seeing some mockups from each of you guys.

638
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: So you so you would prefer instead of the removal,

639
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: some sort of adjustment.

640
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 5: Potentially, I'm I'm I'm not opposed to anything, really honestly.

641
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: Because that's then like a two part process.

642
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: Okay, right, okay, and add on okay, And now I

643
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: think whether it's our listeners on social media, whether it's

644
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: the subreddit or wherever, if if we can get some

645
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, if it's if Randy does give us the

646
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: go ahead to do some crowdsource fundraising, because I don't

647
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: know the cost. It could be potentially pricey, but we're

648
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna use the power of this platform, uh, to

649
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: to make Randy Chavez is right leg pure Again.

650
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 5: I appreciate the offer. That's very nice of you, guys.

651
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 5: I've never had someone extend such a generous offer such

652
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 5: as that to myself.

653
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 4: So I think Dan for you the street, your streak

654
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 4: of charitable uh you know behavior, We've We've got a

655
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 4: couple of mementos over in the corner of the studio,

656
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 4: but it just adds to that legacy.

657
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, your idea, So you are any He sent me

658
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: an autograph Domo Dave Oswana. He sent me that ball

659
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: for the helping those underprivileged kids find a home.

660
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: It was like the business and is not. It was

661
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: like the future business Leaders of America or whatever.

662
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: All that work I did with the orphans down and Clemson.

663
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: Now I now I can add this is Yeah, you're right.

664
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: I didn't look at it that way, but it's starting

665
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: to turn it.

666
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 4: Well, yourself wouldn't You wouldn't see it that way, but

667
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 4: others can help.

668
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: It's you, all right, It's got to be up to Randy, though,

669
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: I think we could afford it. I'm looking at the prayer.

670
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: I think we could.

671
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: Okay, good, uh funk uh Yeah, Let's give you one

672
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: week and we'll circle back. We'll let you kind of

673
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: really ruminate and think on it, because I understand that

674
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: is part of the the ink journey for people that

675
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: it did takes you. That's a place in time, that's

676
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: where you were. Then we're not here to change rewrite history.

677
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 5: I will say, though you three happened to be some

678
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 5: of the most creative guys I know.

679
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: Thank you. Keep going.

680
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 5: I mean, it's Eric. So if you guys, if you

681
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 5: guys want to come with some fun ideas, I'm also

682
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 5: a proud too. I would I would genuinely would like to.

683
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 5: I would like to see what you guys.

684
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: Can you get us just a photo of it so

685
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: that I can I will work on some mock ups potentially,

686
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 4: What about.

687
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: That old you don't see it as much anymore. But

688
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: remember the cars that had let's say a Dallas Cowboys logo,

689
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: and then it would be Calvin and Hobbes urinating on

690
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: the logo. I remember those that would be a little

691
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: bit of a throwback.

692
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 5: For instance, I do love Calvin and Hobbes, big Bill

693
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 5: Waterson fan. But I but getting getting Calvin Peene on

694
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 5: my leg might be because you'd have to be giant.

695
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 5: The logo is big enough where the covin would have

696
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 5: to take up most of my leg and that would

697
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 5: probably be a bit of hard sell. Yeah, all right,

698
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 5: Well that's just one idea. But see that creative idea.

699
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 5: Men here thinking outside the box. Appreciate you guys always.

700
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: You got it funk all right. I feel like I

701
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: feel like that was progress and a potentially a great

702
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: situation for us.

703
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 4: Well, you're giving him the choice, which I like. He's

704
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 4: one week, right, you have one week?

705
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: Have one week? All right? Here we go, moving on

706
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: free agency one on one. How many years have you

707
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: been doing this on a whether it's NFL media or

708
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: your old job at a NBC to World, How long

709
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: have you been doing a free agency list R?

710
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, fifteen years or so.

711
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: And do you find yourself because I certainly was, and

712
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: when I was in the power rankings game, I was

713
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: very competitive about it. I wanted to have the best

714
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: power rankings. Do you have certain people and you don't

715
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: have to name them that you kind of use as

716
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: a measuring stick and you want to reach that bar

717
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: or exceed it.

718
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: I don't like to look at the other lists, even

719
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: mine's out.

720
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: Okayeh, once you've done yours.

721
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: So I think the PFF you mentioned they do a

722
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 2: lot of work out there, because I've seen them tennis

723
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 2: and tweets. They shake it up different ways. They got

724
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: they got a lot of production behind it that looks.

725
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: Great, and they like, by the way, which is a

726
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: comp free agency comp for that player in past years.

727
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 2: I don't like to look at it till mine's out,

728
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 2: because then you just end up like it's like mock

729
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: drafters end up just like making a combination of all

730
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 2: the other mock drafts.

731
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: I never I never did the same thing of powering

732
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 1: has never looked. Will anybody?

733
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 2: I will A lot of they all do great great

734
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: Chrisco does one and you enjoy doing it.

735
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah. It kind of really does start the

736
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: off season in a lot of ways, because the this

737
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: off season journey begins with free agency, uh well kind

738
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: of begins with the coach and staff hiring cycles into

739
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: free agency, and then of course the draft and all

740
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: of a sudden, teams are pretty much fully for that.

741
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: We've ever let it go exclusively on the podcast for

742
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: the first time. Oh you know, nice little pop.

743
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: Hmm, that's that's fan fanfare horn once more, because I

744
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: did not know that hit it? Do you hear that?

745
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: Atn exclusive? Greg rosenbal free agency one on one. So

746
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 1: let's get into it, Greg and we can and Mark

747
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: you and I will kind of prod around the list ourselves,

748
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: and Greg's gonna throw out some things that he took

749
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: away from putting it together.

750
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: We do look at other lists before we do our list.

751
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I studied the list, of course, because we

752
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: have our big free agency two thirteen coming up and

753
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: that takes a lot of research about the genre. But

754
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: the top ten just so people know and then we

755
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: can go anywhere we want, Okay, number one, Chris Jones,

756
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: number two, Kirk Cousins, number three, T Higgins, number four,

757
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, that's Josh Allen of the Jags, the pass

758
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: rusher number five, Christian Wilkins number six, Brian Burns number seven,

759
00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: the Jerius Snead number eight, justin Meta Buke right week. Yeah,

760
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: at number nine, Antoine Winfield and number ten daneil Hunter.

761
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: I have to say my big picture and right on

762
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: the outside of the top ten Mike Evans, one of

763
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: the great most consistent wide receivers of this era or

764
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: any other era, potentially about to reach free agency. I

765
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: love this list this year, and I know it's going

766
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: to be pillaged greg Ee by franchise tags. That window

767
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: just opened, and then you know, anything else that goes down.

768
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: But the list itself, I feel like if you're a

769
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: team that needs to make upgrades, almost every major position

770
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: has some studs.

771
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: I think it's a strong list. It's a big drop

772
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: off maybe after the top thirteen or fourteen. You know,

773
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: you mentioned Evans, Jalen Johnson's a really good one with

774
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 2: the Bears, Michael Pittman, and then there's kind of a

775
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: drop off, and most of those players probably are getting

776
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: tagged like eight, I would guess if I had to

777
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: put an over under out of those fourteen players. But

778
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think it's a good list, and

779
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: I think there's another drop off around forty, so it

780
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: feels like you could do a you know, it's a

781
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: good thing you're doing two thirteen because it does feel deeper.

782
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is with the trend of

783
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: the NFL does more players on short term contracts, is

784
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: what I suspect that there's like one hundred and forty

785
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: good players, like guys that can actually help your team.

786
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: So I think it's a deeper list and it's pretty

787
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: high quality. You're right throughout and for the first time

788
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 2: in a long time, you know one and two Chris

789
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: Jones and Kirk Cousins. They could actually change teams. You

790
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: don't see that too often.

791
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 3: It's uh.

792
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I think there are years when you kind

793
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 4: of take a larger look at the class of free

794
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: agents and it's like, all right, we're gonna hype this

795
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 4: up and we're gonna talk about it a lot, but

796
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 4: you're kind of struggling to find real juice. But this

797
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 4: list is dotted with intriguing especially on offense. I think

798
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: intriguing wide receivers, running backs, for a couple quarterbacks out there,

799
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 4: and right away it's like, I look in the top ten.

800
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 4: I look at the Chiefs and the Vikings is having

801
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 4: a lot of tough decisions to make try to navigate this.

802
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: They've got right or of the top ten.

803
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: So Cousins and Hunter both have elements in their contract

804
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 2: that say they can't be tagged, which is amazing for them.

805
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 2: I mean, Hunter is gonna and the Vikings can't afford both.

806
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: And maybe that informs whether how you know how aggressive

807
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 2: they are and trying to keep Kirk Cousins if they

808
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 2: want to keep Hunter or neither, who really knows. And

809
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 2: then the Jones sneid example with a Super Bowl champion,

810
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: I can't think of anything like it. Because Chris Jones

811
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: got such a big contract last year, he doesn't have

812
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: the tag number, which would be I think under twenty

813
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: million dollars. Instead his tag numbers thirty two. And that

814
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 2: really raises an interesting question with this Chiefs team that

815
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: can you sign both of these guys? Can you sign

816
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 2: Jones long term and tag sneed or vice versa With

817
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: all the money they're already paying to Mahomes and in

818
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: the rest of the contract that they they're looking at

819
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: maybe adding to wide receiver, I don't think you can

820
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: and when I think logically about it, I actually think

821
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 2: it's more logical that they tag Sneid kick that canned

822
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: down on the road, and that Chris Jones might leave

823
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: and they just might realize, like you have to make

824
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: tough decisions. We've gotten the very best out of this guy.

825
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: He's getting a little older, and we can't tag him

826
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: for thirty two and it's going to be so hard

827
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 2: to get him signed before free agency starts, that actually

828
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: the move is to tag Sneed and that Chris Jones

829
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: gets out there and just makes an absolute killing something.

830
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: I kind of think that's what's going to happen.

831
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: And I know what you were saying Mark on the

832
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: last show, because I agree with you. You sometimes this

833
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: free agency when a big fish does shake free and

834
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: they sign with a bad team looking to make a

835
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: big splash. And I mentioned how PFF has these comparison

836
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: players in recent years, and the comparison player is exactly

837
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. And Dominican Sue, who obviously the

838
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: Lions were in a powerhouse when he was there, but

839
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: he was the face of that franchise. He signs a

840
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: massive deal with a kind of under the radar struggling

841
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: Dolphins operation at that point, and he kind of like

842
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: just disappeared in a lot of ways. He was still

843
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: a big time player. He was fine, but he was

844
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't like as if he would have went to

845
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: a big time team or if the Lions figured out

846
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: around him. The interesting thing about the Chiefs not to

847
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: get off course here, but.

848
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 2: No, I think they're are there to be the most

849
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: interesting conversation.

850
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: If they do say go therout. You're talking about keep

851
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: the cornerback and Snead is so valuable in the Spags defense.

852
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: Chris Jones obviously the most valuable, but cornerbacks and cornerbacks

853
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: who could cover as a huge deal for that day.

854
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: What's great about that being the Chiefs is even if

855
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: they just won a Super Bowl with a great defense

856
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes as a game general and they found

857
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: their way back to the Lombardy, there is a fun

858
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: way where they save that money and let Jones walk,

859
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 1: Like you're saying, try to find someone that can fill

860
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: at the void and then attack the offense and build

861
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: another super offense around the greatest quarterback alive. They have

862
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: like some different angles. They can go here and the

863
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: team can end up being a lot different in structure

864
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: than the one that just won the Super Bowl. Be

865
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: interesting to see there is like that.

866
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: Again.

867
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 4: We mentioned like on the last show that Chris Joones

868
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 4: sounds like he wants to stay in Kansas City now

869
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 4: money and a monster deal from some.

870
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: Everyone that like justin Bil just said that, and he

871
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: probably wants to that.

872
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 4: This situation is a little more special than like certain

873
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 4: other players sticking you know, sticking with that Ham and

874
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 4: Eggert type team where they've been for a while. Like

875
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 4: you can win more Super Bowls, you can get paid

876
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 4: really well in some form of fashion. But they're in

877
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 4: a tricky so to my point, so if you have

878
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 4: if you do attack offense instead. The Chiefs have a

879
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 4: list like running backs for instance, great example. I know

880
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 4: they like their running backs, but Saquon, Henry Jacobs, Eckler,

881
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 4: wide receivers, which they certainly need, Higgins, Evans, Pittman, Ridley.

882
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 4: These are all options out there potentially right now anyway.

883
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: But some of these guys will be gone, but some

884
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: will be out.

885
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: Evans would be a fascinating one, and people have connected,

886
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 2: so you too.

887
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: If they have some money to spend, like getting that

888
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: second receiver, first receiver would would be a game changer

889
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: for them.

890
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: They can create a lot of cap space they're already

891
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: well under. They could cut mvs, they can move the

892
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: money around in Mahomes' contract, they have some people they

893
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: can cut and so they they could make it all work.

894
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: And there's a very recent example of them letting Charvarius

895
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: Ward leave for a big contract to San Francisco and

896
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: that worked. And they might feel that, like cornerback is

897
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: a position that they can develop and Spags is so

898
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: good at doing that that they'll let Sneed go. And

899
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: I could be totally wrong, and that they'll view Jones

900
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: is the irreplaceable one because he is more irreplaceable. That's

901
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: why his number is so much higher. Their defensive line

902
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: is quite thin if they didn't have Chris Jones. But

903
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: it's a very it's a compelling conversation. It's just that

904
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: Sneed's so much younger that I do wonder if they

905
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: think about timeline.

906
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: But to be clear, they can't do both. They can't

907
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: keep Snead. They have a massive contract to Jones and

908
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: make big splash and free agency on the offense.

909
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: Well, that's what I mean.

910
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: They have to make a decision, and I can't imagine

911
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: they went through this whole season, even after winning the

912
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, not thinking, man, we got to make some

913
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 1: type of moves on offense.

914
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: I agree with that. I think they'll be aggressive getting

915
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 2: a wide receiver and keep one of these two guys,

916
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: but not both. And in Steed with someone I passed

917
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: this list around in early forms, and Steed was someone

918
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: I just think if he gets free, the league loves him.

919
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: You know, He's just there's no cornerbacks on this list.

920
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: Jalen Johnson, I'm almost certain is gonna get tagged this

921
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: Like at some positions, there's just not any players. The

922
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 2: two positions are cornerback and tackle. So if Sneed did

923
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: somehow shake free, he'd make an up scene amount of money,

924
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: and I think they'd want.

925
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 4: To just well, that's where I like free agency to me,

926
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 4: feels like a bit of fools gold if you're the

927
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 4: team that goes and gets some of these players, because

928
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 4: part of Sneed's like success and journey is how he's

929
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 4: used by SPACs, how he fits in that defense. I mean,

930
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 4: not that it wouldn't translate somewhere else, but I think

931
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 4: if you suddenly are the Chiefs minus, Like Chris Jones,

932
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 4: it becomes a gaping void where everyone visually can realize

933
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 4: how special he's been on that defense.

934
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: He's just in such a good spot. He's kind of

935
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: like Kirk Cousins when he left Washington that it's just

936
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 2: so rare to actually have all this leverage where maybe

937
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: they can tag him. Maybe they just feel like, we'll

938
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 2: let Steed go, We'll make some moves, we'll put the

939
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: thirty two million dollars on them somehow, and then we'll

940
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: get a long term deal worked out that lowers that

941
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: number at some point. But that number is so big

942
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 2: because he knows now if he could somehow get the

943
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 2: free agency, he's going to make more than Aaron Donald.

944
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: Like he's gonna make the most any defensive player has

945
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 2: ever made.

946
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: There.

947
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: The salary cap is reportedly going up to around two

948
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars according to Pro Football, Like,

949
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: we don't really know. It could be anywhere from two

950
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 2: forty three to two fifty, but either way, it's going

951
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: up a lot.

952
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: Where else do you want to go? Greg? What jumped

953
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: out to you?

954
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: Well, let's go ten to twenty, just because that that

955
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: is more fun. Big names Daniel Hunter. We mentioned was ten.

956
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: Evans is eleven. Jalen Johnson, I think it's gonna get

957
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: tagged at twelve. Michael Pittman, I think will also probably

958
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: get tagged with the Colts. And then it's Tyron Smith,

959
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: the only good tackle on the market, Saquon Barkley to me,

960
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: easily the best running back on the market, Calvin Ridley.

961
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 2: An interesting situation where the Jaguars get a better draft

962
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: pick or have to give away a better draft pick

963
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: if they re sign Ridley, So they're incentivized to not

964
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: sign Calvin Ridley at this point, so a good chance

965
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: he gets free. Jonathan Gernard of the Texans, Leonard Williams,

966
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 2: Michael Owen U who's the highest guard tackle I have?

967
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: And then Chauncey Gardner Johnson. That's ten to twenty. And

968
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: one of the reasons when U's up there and Tyron

969
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: Smith's up there is cause like the two positions that

970
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: they're just not on this list our cornerback and tackle.

971
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: And it just says a lot I think about the NFL.

972
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: It's like you can get defensive tackles, you can even

973
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: get defensive lineman, but there's like no tackles, no cornerbacks available, whatsoever,

974
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: you got to get those on.

975
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 4: The defensive tackle is not the easiest to find necessarily

976
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 4: find in the drafts sometimes as well at that one position.

977
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 4: But one name that stands out to me because part

978
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 4: of this, like I think smart free agency is keeping

979
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 4: core people around, especially if you have a young quarterback

980
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 4: like the Colts cannot let Michael Pittman go.

981
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: In my book, I don't think.

982
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 4: That he's a flashy number one type of guy in

983
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 4: all aspects of his game, but it's like he is

984
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: imperative to what they're trying to do on offense, what

985
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 4: they're trying to build.

986
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: Well, it might be the worst receiver group in the

987
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: league if he's gone.

988
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the more interesting cases if

989
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: he ever did get to free agency, because he has

990
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: produced even with a lot of bad quarterback play. But

991
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: he's also maybe not a game changer necessarily, so how

992
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: possession Like again, like where he's I would love him

993
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: as a one B or a two as opposed to

994
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: paying him like a one, especially as we're saying, like

995
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: there's so many good wide receivers coming out of the

996
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: draft every year in every round he's a guy that

997
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: you see those like Kenny Galladay is a good example,

998
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: not that they're similar players, but where you get paid.

999
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: He'll be our number one or two, number one, and

1000
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,479
Speaker 1: he wasn't and then all of a sudden it doesn't

1001
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: work out. The guy Tyron Smith jumps out to me,

1002
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: he's he's on your list? Where is he on your list?

1003
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: I think thirteen fourteen?

1004
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: Like I think, for instance, my team, the Jets, are

1005
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: going to be all over Tyron Smith because they're going

1006
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: to want to sign a big tackle and then draft

1007
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: a tackle with their pick. And that's going to be

1008
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: great news for Smith because if there's not a lot

1009
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: of big tackles on the market and there's a desperate

1010
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: team like the Jets, that's going to drive his market up.

1011
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: So he is going to get a lot of money,

1012
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: maybe more than he deserves at this point.

1013
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 2: He last year though he stayed healthy.

1014
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: It's his age, though where is he at? I think

1015
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: now up to thirty five, he's going to get a lot.

1016
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: He's going to get more money than you would think

1017
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: a thirty five year old tackle. He's thirty three actually, okay,

1018
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: my best turn thirty three.

1019
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, look, he was on the Hall of Fame

1020
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: All twenty tens team. I mean, this is a guy

1021
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: who's probably making the Hall of Fame someday and had

1022
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: really struggled with injuries the three previous years, but he

1023
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: had a healthy year this last year. I think that

1024
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: he actually might get to freegency because Tyler Smith, who

1025
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: they drafted is quite good.

1026
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: You know, GM Aaron is going to be all over

1027
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: that one.

1028
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: Right, and again it's a position that it's so bad.

1029
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: Michael Owen, who for the Patriots, who can play guard

1030
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: or tackle. I think he's best at right tackle. He's

1031
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: going to get paid a lot of money because there's

1032
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: just not many young players available. And then after that

1033
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: it's just like, come on, it's like Trent Brown, who's

1034
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 2: a bit of a nightmare in terms of injuries and

1035
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 2: like off field stuff where he'll have one good year

1036
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: and then he becomes a headache. He's the next guy,

1037
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: maybe Jonah Williams, who Bengals fans probably are in love with,

1038
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: but at least he can just play illumin or who

1039
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: is with the Raider.

1040
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: These guys can just play as those are where you

1041
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: get in trouble to sign it around.

1042
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 2: Jonah willis right, in some fun guy like I saw

1043
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: someone I did see that had Becton, you know, like

1044
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 2: Beckton might get some money just because he played last

1045
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 2: year and right, and there's no one available, so there's

1046
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: some projects out there, but but those positions get paid.

1047
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: You you mentioned Pittman, I think he will get tagged.

1048
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: I think Evans will get out there, though, and it

1049
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: is fascinating to think, like where could he go? And

1050
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: then I think of who else will get out there

1051
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: at wide receiver. Marquis Brown I think is gonna be

1052
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: that guy you mentioned. Not He's not gonna be like

1053
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: Galladay because I think he's a good player, but he's

1054
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 2: gonna make more than people expect because him and Ridley

1055
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 2: they're fast and they're available, and you kind of need

1056
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: three receivers and it can be one of your three receivers.

1057
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: They can be your two or year three. They're not

1058
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: your one, but a two like a Pittman is probably

1059
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: worth twenty million dollars a year now, So people are

1060
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: gonna have sticker shock, but Marky's Brown or Calvin Ridley

1061
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: will probably get twenty million.

1062
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 4: Well, it's like years in a row where the wide

1063
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 4: receiver paydays for free agency have been insane. I mean,

1064
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 4: I guess you could find a team that really needed

1065
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 4: wide out help and you could almost pair like a

1066
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 4: Marquis Brown with another wide receiver on the freegent market

1067
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 4: and completely change You mean, you like mark east Brown, but.

1068
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: You want to play twenty million for Markus Brown. I'll

1069
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: get a guy in the second round.

1070
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: But it's kind of like when Kirk Christian Kirk got

1071
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: paid seventeen million a year a couple of years ago,

1072
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: and man, that looked bad at the time, and now

1073
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, actually, he's pretty dependable and you need receivers

1074
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 2: and that's like an okay price.

1075
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 3: That's just how it is. I think, Yeah, like.

1076
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 4: You eyed up, no problem with you putting Higgins above Evans.

1077
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Higgins, you know, they could they

1078
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 4: could tag him too if they want, but like.

1079
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: Probably will tag him. But the Bengals are such a

1080
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: mysterious operation.

1081
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 4: Is that an age thing? A little bit for you

1082
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 4: with Evans? And like, because what I kind of wonder

1083
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 4: what kind of contract. I think Evans could find himself

1084
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 4: go to a playoff type team and be in a

1085
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 4: wonderful playing situation, but like, what do you pay him?

1086
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 3: Slip is he thirty thirty one, thirty one.

1087
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know problem paying them a lot

1088
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 4: of money, but it's like, is he that high?

1089
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 3: Three years from now?

1090
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 2: Right, he's come off one of his best seasons in

1091
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 2: a long time. He's kind of ages. I'm a little

1092
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 2: worried I have him too low that he should be

1093
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 2: even higher on this list. He'll be turning thirty one

1094
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: in August. But I would guess something like a two

1095
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: year fifty million dollar contract, you know where it's a

1096
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: three year contract, but it's really a two year fifty

1097
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: million dollar contract. Like, I see no reason why he

1098
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: wouldn't get paid. And the most surprising buzz to me

1099
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 2: is like the last week or two is that like, oh,

1100
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: the Bucks actually aren't going to pay him. I don't

1101
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: know if I totally believe that. It makes no sense

1102
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: to me, but that's that's what's out there. What do

1103
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 2: you think of obj now? As like eightieth on this list?

1104
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: I have gave Davis quite high.

1105
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: I like me.

1106
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: Some gave Davis. Curtis Samuel's another receiver. I think receivers

1107
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: are always fun to talk about.

1108
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: I have Beckham on my subcategory contract year fall stars

1109
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: at least in terms of your rankings, he's down at

1110
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: eighty three and his agent, who's who deserves a Presidential

1111
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: Medal of Freedom for what he's gotten Odell Beckham compared

1112
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: to the production over the last five or six years,

1113
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: you could point to again. Up by the end of

1114
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 1: the season, he was kind of looking like Odell again.

1115
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: And then you popped the hood and the analytics are

1116
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: pretty good. They said that he's a you know, a

1117
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: premium number two maybe wide receiver, but somebody else can

1118
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: pay for him. I know, for instance, my team was

1119
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: poking around before he went to the Ravens. I hope

1120
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: they don't again. I don't want like wrong side of

1121
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: thirty wide receivers that are going to be commanding a

1122
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 1: big salary when I could find somebody in the draft instead.

1123
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: I don't think you will this year.

1124
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: I think he I think he's gonna play on a

1125
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: one year deal again, like one year.

1126
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 3: The rest of his career is just one year for

1127
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 3: about half.

1128
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 2: The money that he made. But you have I think

1129
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: it's a bad spot. I think I think Gabe Davis,

1130
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: like you could talk yourself into there's a lot of

1131
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: untapped potential, a lot of big play, but even Darnell Mooney.

1132
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 2: I would rather have our guest on the show, kJ Osborne,

1133
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: I think is kind of a fun guy. I'd rather go.

1134
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: I'd rather go young.

1135
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: You have Austin Eckler by the way way down, which

1136
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: is like you have him twenty spots lower than Jameis Winston,

1137
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: I believe, which is wild to me. Uh And in general.

1138
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 2: I overrate the backup quarterbacks. I rank them side high.

1139
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: From what I understand, this is not a great running

1140
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: back draft class. So I would I would. I would

1141
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: say you probably should bump up some of these running backs.

1142
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it is I think telling

1143
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: that coming off last summer where we were all talking

1144
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: about all these running backs getting banged, these stars that

1145
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: aren't getting the contracts they want or deserve. And Eckler

1146
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: tried to get traded, you know, he tried to get

1147
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: a raise. Josh Jacob's held out, Saquon Barkley held out

1148
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: and got a ridiculous like that contract is more ridiculous

1149
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 1: with every day they gave him this absurd incentive deal,

1150
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: but he got no money out of it. What kind

1151
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: of money they get where they stack up. Derrick Henry

1152
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: is out there I'm curious. I love the idea of

1153
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: Derek Henry going somewhere on the right team goodbye more

1154
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: than any of those other players. I think Henry in

1155
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: the right setup could be a real dog for a team.

1156
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 4: I had the thought because the team that's gonna look

1157
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 4: so different on offense, I think will be the Greg

1158
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 4: Roman Harbaugh Chargers.

1159
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 3: Like, what about Derrick Henry behind justin HRB?

1160
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: That would be fun and I'll send him to the Chargers.

1161
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think they're gonna be a different type.

1162
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: Now they have Jim harbaught and now things will change.

1163
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: But I mean, what name of coaches want gonna want

1164
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 3: to go find a Maulinge run.

1165
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: I love it as a fit. Ye.

1166
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 2: I struggled with where to put him in Jacobs. Jacobs

1167
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 2: was about twenty spots Hire a year ago had a

1168
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: bad year and that kind of follows his career where

1169
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 2: three and a half yards per cars it's like one great.

1170
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: It did look much better the eye test, especially by

1171
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,959
Speaker 2: the end. He's a great receiver. He's a complete back.

1172
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: But I have him and Henry around thirty and that's

1173
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: where to me, a lot of the good value in

1174
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: free agency actually comes as these one year deals for veterans,

1175
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: like you could say what you want about Clowney or

1176
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 2: even Zadarias Smith last year, who was paid more than Clowney. Certainly,

1177
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 2: it's like those guys who are actually bargains compared to

1178
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: paying the like fourteen to fifteen million dollars a year

1179
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: for some young guy, and Derrick Henry and Jacob's to

1180
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: me are like the veteran running back equivalent to that,

1181
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 2: but they're not gonna make much money. I think they're

1182
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: nice one year ads and position scarcity and the money

1183
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: is all a factor. So that's why I have guys

1184
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: like Pollard and DeAndre Swift and JK.

1185
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 3: Dobbins.

1186
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: I have them all ahead of Eckler because they're younger.

1187
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: I think Dobbins didn't look year now he did. I

1188
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: think Dobbins is actually I like guys some I always

1189
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: think teams should pay guys on two year deals coming

1190
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: off injury, because Dobbs could be in Dobbins could be

1191
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 2: like a nice longer term bet, even if he's coming.

1192
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 4: Out, Like seeing his name on this list, it's like

1193
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 4: this stuff raises by because it's like he's already going

1194
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 4: to free see that the one thing I got to

1195
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 4: bring up here because you got your QB, like you

1196
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 4: give his you give it the positional uh chart on

1197
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 4: how you rank these guys Obviously Kirk Cousins number one obviously,

1198
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 4: and I know I was like, where do you go

1199
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 4: from this?

1200
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 3: Cause it's not like plug and play star players.

1201
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 4: There's a lot of help at quarterback behind him, but

1202
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 4: you have Jacoby Brissette about Baker Mayfield.

1203
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was where I just had to go with

1204
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: my gut. I know I'm gonna that one is probably

1205
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: gonna get the most such a move push back of anything,

1206
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: but it fills a.

1207
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 3: Certain role for Greg that quarterback.

1208
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, good one that's overlooked. You know what I decided

1209
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 2: to do. Mark was kind of split the difference. Be

1210
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: fair to Mayfield. They're they're both in the top. They're

1211
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: right around thirty, so it's not like they're that low

1212
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: in the one oh one. I was like, if I'm

1213
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: gonna stand up for Jacoby and really believe that he's

1214
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 2: Adulton Line type of quarterback just like I see Baker being,

1215
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 2: which has to me a lot of value, Like would

1216
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: you rather have that or would you rather have Derek Henry?

1217
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: I would rather have that. I think it's like some

1218
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: teams need that. It raises the floor of your team.

1219
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: So I put them right next to each other because

1220
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,959
Speaker 2: I do think Jake Briskett is very similar to where

1221
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: Gino was a couple of years ago, where it's like

1222
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 2: he could step in and he could have brought your

1223
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: team to the playoffs. Last year, Dan he he could

1224
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 2: have with who with the Jets with Hackett maybe no,

1225
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 2: he would have improved their team a lot.

1226
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 3: I think that's the way.

1227
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: I truly believe that's a level he's playing at. He

1228
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: played it for the Browns. He looked fantastic in that

1229
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 2: Washington He's still only thirty one, he's learned a lot.

1230
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 2: Like to me, he's in his prime, and him and

1231
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: Mayfield kind of occupy a similar space. But ranking them

1232
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: versus like Robert Hunt or you know, Gave Davis.

1233
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 3: Is kind of impossible.

1234
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to you could where to put it,

1235
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 2: like a mid level quarterback. But that's where I truly

1236
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: believe Jake Briskett belongs that he's better than a de

1237
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: amount of corn.

1238
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 4: And you could argue because both of them played in

1239
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 4: the same offense that Stefanski had more success, you know,

1240
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 4: ultimately with Jacoby than he did with Baker.

1241
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: Jamis being your number five free agent quarterback is hilarious.

1242
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: Donald's he's Donald Tyler. Huntley is just personal and I'll be.

1243
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 3: A bigger some of those I'll be a bigger man.

1244
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: To be fair, Donald's moved up some of those some

1245
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: of those position ones you're looking at are a little off.

1246
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: He is on my long list of one oh one,

1247
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: whereas Huntley is not. So Donald has overtaken him. That

1248
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: might have been congratulations.

1249
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: That means it's time to take a break, or is

1250
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: there breaking news? What's happening back there, Funk? But really

1251
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: feel in the space right now?

1252
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 5: Well, I thought you wanted me to play it every

1253
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 5: time you mentioned one on one, and I've kind of been.

1254
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: That was I was good.

1255
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: Actually, I think it added some excitement.

1256
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 5: And then earlier you were like you were like you

1257
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 5: made the little DJ LIBB effects.

1258
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: So I have to take a little bit.

1259
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: Listen, Funk, explore the space back there. You're doing. Appreciate that.

1260
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: Let's take a break, and when we come back, we

1261
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: will finish our conversation on the top of.

1262
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 4: One the quick that, like people don't realize we don't

1263
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 4: take we we say we're taking a break, and then

1264
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 4: we start talking one second later.

1265
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: In real life, you told the audience that like two

1266
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: weeks ago.

1267
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 4: I know, but it remains on my radar as a

1268
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 4: problematic for us.

1269
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: I would think, mark you, the last thing you would

1270
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: want to do is take a break and in the office.

1271
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: You're right, because we could start to take a break

1272
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: if you felt like it was like not authentic, take

1273
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: a go wasperiance.

1274
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 4: I just think it seems like but I mean, you know,

1275
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 4: with the listeners, but during that break, you have to

1276
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 4: listen to your desire, no ad.

1277
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: Read scrap all that we could actually, we could keep

1278
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: you here an extra fifteen minutes if we take authentic break. Negative, No,

1279
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: all right, we'll be right back. All right, we're back,

1280
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: and yes we are. If you're just joining us, this

1281
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: is going deep. Rosenthal one oh one, not to be

1282
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: confused with the hands of cessler tooth. Thir team is

1283
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: coming on the doorstep of free agency next month. Greg,

1284
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: let's get back into it. Let's dive in. So here's

1285
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: so QB's we just talked about running backs. There's some

1286
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: really big names there and a draft class that's not

1287
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: high on RB talent being told what is the what's

1288
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: a positional group? If you're a team that needs to

1289
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: plug a position where you're very excited because there's a

1290
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: lot of depth.

1291
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: As always, there's a ton of interesting quality safeties just

1292
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 2: teams just don't play safeties. They always feel like they

1293
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 2: can find them or replace them. But I think the

1294
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: linebacker discussion is probably more interesting because there are a

1295
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 2: lot of players available that are plug and play, mostly

1296
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: three down linebackers in their primes that are going to

1297
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 2: start next year, so that it's one of the only

1298
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: positions where you can look at and say, wow, there's

1299
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 2: a lot of guys that will I think get big contracts.

1300
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 2: Patrick Queen is one of them, coming from bald It's

1301
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: more Frankie Louvu from Carolina who's kind of been a gem,

1302
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 2: you know, diamond in the rough there but it's played

1303
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: really well. Jordan Brooks, who was a first round pick.

1304
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner's out there, Devin White, a couple of the

1305
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 2: Chiefs linebackers, Willie Gabe, Drew tranquill As, he's Alshai here

1306
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: who I really like for Tennessee. So a lot of

1307
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: linebackers and it's kind of a question of like it's

1308
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: a position that went really out of favor to the

1309
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: point where like teams almost ignored it, and now I

1310
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 2: wonder is it gonna start coming back in because we've

1311
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: seen these teams like Baltimore and San Francisco and even

1312
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: Kansas City has done a good job with their linebackers.

1313
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: Like if you have a three down linebacker, it's such

1314
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: an advantage because no one else does. And it's so

1315
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: hard to get these guys up to speed that a

1316
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 2: lot of I tend to think these guys like Queen

1317
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: and Louvu and Brooks, they're just coming into their prime.

1318
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 2: They had some major ups and downs the first couple

1319
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 2: of years because you have to learn coverage, and I

1320
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 2: think they will start getting paid in this market. I

1321
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: really struggled with where to put them.

1322
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 4: And Frankie Luvu like to me, every time you watch

1323
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 4: the Panthers, he's doing something and he's like the kind

1324
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 4: of perfect free agent pick up for me, because it's

1325
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 4: like you're not gonna have to blow the market to

1326
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 4: get him, but he's gonna be productive. We got to

1327
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 4: do you have any concern because Patrick Queen I thought

1328
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 4: was underwhelming for big chunks of.

1329
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 3: His time, then they didn't pick up your options.

1330
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 4: But Smith comes in and completely transformed very queen space

1331
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 4: on the field. So if you go and is that

1332
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 4: kind of like a classic, he's gonna get a ton

1333
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 4: of money and then he doesn't shine the way you.

1334
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: Very possibly unless it's Mike McDonald and Seattle giving it

1335
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 2: to him, and I would just like trust him. I

1336
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: don't feel good about that ranking and that feeling because

1337
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: I don't like how these rankings often and teams pay

1338
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 2: just off the contract year instead of looking at the

1339
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 2: froll four years, you know what I mean, or the

1340
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 2: average year that they have. And he's someone who's definitely

1341
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: like peeking at the right time.

1342
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: And I give it up to him because he really

1343
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: did have a good year, even if he didn't get

1344
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: the ten sacks. But you Davin Clowney is another guy

1345
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: with uh with Patrick Queen. Yeah, the Mike McDonald effect,

1346
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: like he was a perfect scheme deployed the right way

1347
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: and you saw their games jump up. Would that take

1348
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: place with a different team.

1349
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: It is fun to rank, Like see where Clowney's ranking

1350
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: go every year, just gets like a little bit lower,

1351
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: even though he had a great year. He's now forty one.

1352
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 2: He's right next to Levante David. He's the perfect like Levante,

1353
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 2: might I set the record one year of one value?

1354
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1355
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: Right?

1356
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: Like how I'm sure someone's tracking this, Like what player

1357
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: non special teams has the most one year contracts. He's

1358
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: got to be up to about five now.

1359
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeaes Sue had a bunch in a row at the

1360
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: end of his career. I think a similar type of player.

1361
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 2: And uh, that's so, there's a lot of players like

1362
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 2: that that are like, wow, they could really help you.

1363
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 2: But it's just like, just give him one year and

1364
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 2: you'll help your team this year, Like a wait, one

1365
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: more linebacker ahead.

1366
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: One more linebacker. You didn't mention there? I don't think

1367
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: you did. Was Levante David? Yes, it was up there

1368
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: in years. But obviously he's one of the great linebackers

1369
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: and Bucks history. He could still great cover linebacker, which

1370
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: is so important. Obviously, even with his age, he has

1371
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: all the instincts. Still there is a very real world

1372
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: where the Bucks don't have Levonte d David or Mike

1373
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: Evans on the field in September like that. That's pretty wild.

1374
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: There the page into a new era in Bucks football.

1375
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 2: And Devin White, who you know, when you think of

1376
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 2: that that super Bowl team, he made the All Pro

1377
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: team back then and he was almost on his way.

1378
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 2: It felt like to becoming a superstar. Yes, and I

1379
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 2: have him ranked really low because he just seems like

1380
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 2: he drives the coaches.

1381
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 3: They're crazy.

1382
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 2: And I think it'll be controversy last year, the last

1383
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 2: couple of years really or whatever. And I tend to

1384
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: think they will. They will keep Levante David as they

1385
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 2: did a year ago. He was a free agent a

1386
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: year ago, and that'll say a lot that they're happy

1387
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 2: to just let uh Devin White go. The you mentioned Clowney.

1388
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 2: That is one position where it's like, man, there's a

1389
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 2: lot of good defensive like defensive end, offensive lineman of bille.

1390
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 2: If you need like five hundred quality snaps out of

1391
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 2: interior or defensive end, that's I think where the sweet

1392
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 2: spot is in free agency.

1393
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 3: I love some of these guys like Andrew van Ginkel.

1394
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 2: I really like that he's great.

1395
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 4: He'd be a good signing, like you know, like I

1396
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 4: thought Zadarius Smith was a huge difference maker across from

1397
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett and Cleveland. And if you go back, if

1398
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 4: you're the Browns and you don't resign him and you

1399
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 4: don't find someone to go do that same thing.

1400
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 3: That defense is completely mar.

1401
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 2: But you can't. That's a good thing for a team

1402
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: like them, Like you can find someone whether it's there's

1403
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 2: a lot about him or it's like a Leonard Floyd Klay.

1404
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 2: Dj Wanham was an okay player for Minnesota, Like there

1405
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 2: are players your guy, Bryce Huff I think is gonna

1406
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 2: be an interesting guy to watch. I struggled with where

1407
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: to put him because all he does is win when

1408
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 2: it comes to like past win rate is like godlike.

1409
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 2: And yeah, he pops off the screen too. He just

1410
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: is so explosive. Yet you know, he never earned the

1411
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 2: full trust to get like, you know, fifty snaps a game.

1412
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why that is, but I think he's

1413
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: gonna make a lot of money. So they didn't because

1414
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: he's young.

1415
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: Based on the playing time that Jets staff didn't trust

1416
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: him against the run. So if he is somebody that's

1417
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: limited in that in that respect and and that doesn't develop,

1418
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,919
Speaker 1: then you're paying for like just a pure pass rusher.

1419
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: And how much money? How much money does he get?

1420
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: Like he is a guy I fear because they they

1421
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: made the mistake. I thought of taking Will McDonald last

1422
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: year when they had so much depth at defensive line,

1423
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: and now they're probably gonna let Huff walk because they

1424
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: have this first round pick that they need to develop.

1425
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: A team could get a guy that's like an eighteen

1426
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: sack guy and and if he develops in the other

1427
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: end of the game, he's an all pro. So I

1428
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: think he's a guy like give me give me a

1429
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: chance on Huff if I'm a team out there more

1430
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: than pay big money for Chase Young who a little

1431
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: bit maybe of issues I think voter and the health

1432
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: issues with the surgery. Like give me a guy with upside.

1433
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: I think West used to talk about that with Fantasy

1434
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: sports a lot, and probably maybe it holds for this,

1435
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: like give me the upside shot of a guy being

1436
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: a real stud rather than kind of paying a premium

1437
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 1: for a guy that has a much lower floor.

1438
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 4: And the Jets are not in great cap situation at

1439
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 4: the moment either, so it's like, how would they value

1440
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 4: the Huff thing?

1441
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 3: Right?

1442
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 2: Jonathan Garnard is another guy who get paid a lot

1443
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 2: of money off the edge. There's a lot of different

1444
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 2: options there. You mentioned Wes see the Jacoby Preset thing.

1445
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 2: This is where I need Wes for. You asked, how

1446
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:27,919
Speaker 2: long have I been doing it. I did it for

1447
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 2: a few years before coming here, one year without west here,

1448
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 2: and then you know, we would have our battles, we

1449
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 2: would have our two lists, we would bring them together.

1450
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 2: I still got some of those lists from west Son

1451
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 2: saved on my you know, laptop and my Google docs

1452
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: and everything. And he would know I would like Jacoby

1453
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 2: too much, so then he would purposely rank him even

1454
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 2: lower than he wanted to even it out. And I

1455
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: can't argue with the checks and balances are I'll.

1456
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: Never forget the jams. Who was founded on the jamis

1457
01:06:56,080 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: Winston Marcus Mariota battles between Lesson.

1458
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 3: I'm not sure who won that.

1459
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 2: We both lost in the end. I think the listeners

1460
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 2: lost well.

1461
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: According to your rankings, he's one of the top free

1462
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: agents out there.

1463
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 3: He is ninety.

1464
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 2: If there's something I stand on the hill and Ryan

1465
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 2: Tannehill's there too, that a backup quarterback is worth a lot.

1466
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: It's worth maybe more than a replacement level safe or

1467
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 2: like a rotational linebacker. And I think they're underpaid. So

1468
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 2: that's I rank them that way that to me, they're

1469
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,439
Speaker 2: more important. I struggled with where to put Minshew, Where

1470
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 2: to put Josh Dobbs. She is low, min She's a

1471
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 2: little low. He's just reliable.

1472
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean like he'shead and a career loser. And one

1473
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,479
Speaker 1: guy is stepped in in a nice job last year.

1474
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: How could they be so different?

1475
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 2: There's different They're right next to each other on the list.

1476
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 1: But why is the guy that really stepped in and

1477
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: did well last year behind the guy that went into

1478
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: victory formation and called a touchdown run.

1479
01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not knocking him respectfully, Minshew. I think

1480
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 2: if you peak behind the he actually finished the season

1481
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 2: playing well, but I don't think he was playing that well.

1482
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: Most of it was fine.

1483
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 2: Jamis. Jamis has been a productive player, is still relatively young.

1484
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 2: I think he's more talented. They're close, though, but if

1485
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 2: you need a backup, though, there's a million flavors.

1486
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 3: Jamis Dobbs was out there.

1487
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 2: Who's probably gonna end up on the one oh one

1488
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 2: once the tags happened because he's right outside. Tyrod actually

1489
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: played pretty well. Darnold's out there, Mason Rudolph's out there,

1490
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 2: Drew Locks out there. There's like kind of all of

1491
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 2: those lives.

1492
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 3: Is Tyana Hill.

1493
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 4: Too good to be a backup? I mean, does he

1494
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 4: take a starter's job away if there's issues? I mean

1495
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 4: I kind of liked him.

1496
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: Maybe I over think he's like the Baker this year

1497
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,440
Speaker 1: where he's going to sign somewhere where he was a chance.

1498
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 3: I would have had him way.

1499
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 2: I did a list earlier in August, like before the season,

1500
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 2: and he was so much higher. So was one of

1501
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 2: his old teammates, Christian Fulton, who's in my top twenty.

1502
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 2: And his play this year spooked me a little bit

1503
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,839
Speaker 2: that like, oh yeah, this guy is thirty six years.

1504
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 4: Old and he gets seen moment well, but behind a

1505
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 4: terirball offensive line with a lack of skilled positions.

1506
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but I just started to thinking, Okay, maybe he's

1507
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 2: reaching that Matt Ryan part of the career. Not everyone's

1508
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 2: going to be Aaron Rodgers. And you know, before this

1509
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: year and playing so great at thirty seven, thirty's.

1510
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 4: Still if I were Pittsburgh and I know that there

1511
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 4: they've got their whatever they're doing over there. But like

1512
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 4: you just pick up Tannehill paring with Arthur Smith and

1513
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 4: there you go.

1514
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 2: Right, why not?

1515
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: I mean, do more.

1516
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 4: Well, do more also, but I'm saying they'll do nothing.

1517
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,839
Speaker 4: Route It's like there's a ton of OUs in the closet.

1518
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: By the way, a lot of listeners reached out about

1519
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: the summer. What is the summer in a day? The

1520
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: Ray Bradbury tail about the poor girl locked in the closet,

1521
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: and now all Pittsburgh fans locked in that closet wanting

1522
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 1: to be let out to see the sunshine.

1523
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 3: He really connected with the with the listeners, they.

1524
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 2: Really think I have to think about the entire story

1525
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 2: again to even understand why this applies to the Steelers.

1526
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: But she used to be on Earth and she saw

1527
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 1: the sun regular that was the right peak be big Ben. Yeah,

1528
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: she knew what it looked like to see in an

1529
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: exciting offense in Pittsburgh, and now she's in this other

1530
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 1: world planet.

1531
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 2: Who are the other girls locking the Steelers in the closet?

1532
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 2: The GM okay, okay, the Steelers themselves, the.

1533
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 4: Girls, the Steelers fans or the football viewer?

1534
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 5: Yeah what Randy, Sorry, I'm sorry that was Nixon.

1535
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 2: No, don't tell us that.

1536
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 3: I just liked it. It was good.

1537
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 1: It was yeah, So let us say, you know, Mason

1538
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: Rudolph probably is holding that door closed, and sure, I'm

1539
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 1: sure he has a role in it.

1540
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 3: Venus is closer to the sun. That's all. I don't

1541
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 3: get the I can'cel.

1542
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 1: Take it up with the estate of Ray Bradberry he

1543
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 1: passed away in two thousand.

1544
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 4: I mean, he had a firm grasp on science fiction.

1545
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 4: So I'm not gonna go nuts with it.

1546
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,959
Speaker 2: But one of the things you noticed doing this exercise,

1547
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 2: what teams pop up a lot early in this list

1548
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 2: and for such a terrible roster. I was like, man,

1549
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 2: a lot of the Patriots best players are free agents now,

1550
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 2: like they are in a tough spot. Kyle Duggar is

1551
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 2: a top twenty five player on this list. There's some

1552
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: dis I'm a little lower in him than some others,

1553
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 2: but I still like him. He's a big playmaker on

1554
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 2: When You is one of the best offensive linemen on

1555
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 2: the list. Trent Brown is one of the best offensive

1556
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 2: linemen on this Hunter Henry is my number two tight

1557
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 2: end on this list, but behind Dalton Schultz. It's like

1558
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 2: this is a bad roster that's about to get work.

1559
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 3: You could see every one of those players going somewhere else.

1560
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 2: We do think they all were maybe Dugger. I don't

1561
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 2: even know.

1562
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: We need to come up with a list of overly

1563
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: familiar free agency one O one names. It would have

1564
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: like Hunter, Henry curt Of, Samuel. I'm not saying they're

1565
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: bad players. I feel like we're always talking about these guys.

1566
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,879
Speaker 2: Leonard Williams is now become a somewhat regular.

1567
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 4: I do wonder with New England because they got the

1568
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,520
Speaker 4: second most cap from in the league, like new leadership.

1569
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 4: What do you do there? Like, are you gonna spend

1570
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 4: it on the market? I hope you need to.

1571
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 2: I have a feeling Robert Crafts has this storyline in

1572
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 2: his head in New England that he doesn't spend money.

1573
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,839
Speaker 1: Sorry, is this the rainfall sound effect?

1574
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 5: Yeah? He talked about not seeing the sun, so I

1575
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 5: was looking for rain I.

1576
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: Don't like that we have to make it like five

1577
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: minutes every time. I like it, though. I just like

1578
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 2: having random sounds.

1579
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: Viny at this, thank you, thank you for that, you're

1580
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: doing great fun anything else? I want to say the

1581
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: one oh one number one on one. Oh.

1582
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did want to talk about this. I really

1583
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 2: debated it. I was thinking of like it this year.

1584
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 2: This is not a final list either, so you guys

1585
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 2: can have some influence if you want. Michael Thomas is

1586
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: the choice right now.

1587
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the guy that does He hold

1588
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: the all time single season catch record.

1589
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 3: Still feels like four years, four thousand years.

1590
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: It feels that way, but I think it was twenty nineteen.

1591
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 1: He was the offensive player of the year, a lot

1592
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: of injuries, finally stayed somewhat healthy last year and is

1593
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 1: no longer the guy, but as a one o.

1594
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 4: One a little bit of a like locker room menis yeah,

1595
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 4: I mean more than a little bit aw.

1596
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 1: Some issues, I believe, nothing too serious.

1597
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 2: He has spent a decent amount of this offseason. I've

1598
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 2: I've held back on bringing up on the show burying

1599
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 2: Derek Carr again like it's happened more. That was now

1600
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 2: a month ago, but he made it very clear to

1601
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: the point Derek Carr like had to respond while like

1602
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 2: doing some sponsor obligation in a locker New Orleans and

1603
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 2: just said, I want the best for Mike. I don't know,

1604
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: you know why he's doing this more or less.

1605
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: So whoever, whoever gets Michael Tomas, you better hope that

1606
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: he likes your quarterback. But he's like, for instance, I

1607
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: know this isn't how you do the one on one

1608
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: because there's a little like Twitter and the lack of punctuation,

1609
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: little winking nod to the whole thing. Yes, you need

1610
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 1: to find that heart that that wouldn't move the needle.

1611
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 3: Ness should have been jamis okay.

1612
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 2: So I thought about Minchew. I thought about but I

1613
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 2: wanted Minschew a little higher on the list.

1614
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 3: He's gotten would have been wasn't one one year?

1615
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 2: Gino was one on one, which, in hindsight, way too low,

1616
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 2: way too low.

1617
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: Gonna put Teddy Bridgewater on this list this year? How

1618
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: mad did it? It was sad, but he's helping the

1619
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 1: of America.

1620
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: I thought Josh Dobbs would be a fun one on one,

1621
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 2: but I tend to do that where it's always some

1622
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 2: like uh out of lett, you know, kind of like

1623
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 2: field quarterback. And I thought Michael Thomas was a nice

1624
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 2: change of paying.

1625
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: Have Austin Eckler at ninety two. I understand why that's

1626
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: so low. That's he's almost off the list. Greg, Well,

1627
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: he won't be saying, all right, I did not check

1628
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 1: this out of curiosity. I'm going to check one of

1629
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 1: your competitors. I won't. I won't say what it is

1630
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: that seems I feel like Wes he's back on that

1631
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: ninety is.

1632
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 2: What is Eckler giving you right now? That he's a

1633
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 2: Devin singletary, isn't who's not on the list for He's.

1634
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: Maybe the best pass catching running back in the league

1635
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 1: outside of McCaffrey. And I know he didn't look great

1636
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: last year, but maybe he was beat up. I mean

1637
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 1: ninety two I was.

1638
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 4: I have a list from a metric site that we

1639
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 4: mentioned previously.

1640
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 3: He's at fifty six, okay on their list.

1641
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: Live with that. I could live with fifty six.

1642
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 3: Where the comp is Dion Lewis.

1643
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: Where in the eighteen where's Josh Jacobs on your list?

1644
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 2: He's second thirty two or something.

1645
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: He had average three and a half yards of carry

1646
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: last year.

1647
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 2: Got more juice, move is better.

1648
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 4: He did get better after McDaniels left, and then he

1649
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 4: got hurt again.

1650
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 2: Eckler's had a lot of wear and tear on a

1651
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 2: relatively small.

1652
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: Body and just no tell Matt Harmon about this. I'm

1653
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: using my I'm telling Harmon right now, I do a

1654
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: show together.

1655
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 2: It's some of those plays that you called out Dan

1656
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 2: during the season.

1657
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, the piano on his back.

1658
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 2: Lack of explosiveness with a running back I found, you

1659
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 2: don't want to chase him.

1660
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn piano on his back.

1661
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 3: You got to take that.

1662
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, with running backs, you don't want to chase the rebound.

1663
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 2: At age twenty nine, I think it's.

1664
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: A sensible contract.

1665
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 2: It's safer to just be like, okay that I wouldn't

1666
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 2: mind him in like a committee situation.

1667
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: Two years with the club option and maybe he was

1668
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 1: dealing with things and he comes back rejuvenated. I just

1669
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 1: think that's almost off the one on one extreme.

1670
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 3: I'll move him up a little yet.

1671
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 1: Like literally like forty touchdowns the previous two years, didn't

1672
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 1: have any season career derailing injury.

1673
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: All Right, I might move him up at six spots

1674
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 2: in favor Packers guard John Runyon and Jets safety Jordan Whitehead.

1675
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 3: It is really annoying.

1676
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 1: Whitehead has a nose for the football.

1677
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 2: These guards keep them behind white Head. Ranking these guards

1678
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 2: because like finding out who likes what guards or what

1679
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 2: the league like, and just like pretending I really have

1680
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 2: a hot takeout of John Simpson, who's in my top fifty,

1681
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 2: and Lloyd Cushion Berry, who's a nice young center. But

1682
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 2: it's like, you guys are fine with one on one.

1683
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 2: You're fine with Michael Thomas. I guess because he's.

1684
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: Yes, No, I think this other one.

1685
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 2: It's actually kind of hurting his value because in the end,

1686
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 2: with players getting taken off and added, like, it'll be

1687
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 2: like the he should be like eight eighties.

1688
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,759
Speaker 1: I would put him in the eighties and put Jamis

1689
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: at one on one, but we're not going to fight

1690
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 1: that battle.

1691
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 2: Jamis isn't a fun one on one. Michael Thomas is fun.

1692
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 1: Okay.

1693
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 2: You know what I did this year. I made sure

1694
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,799
Speaker 2: to check that free agent kicker list and have respect

1695
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: for the position, and I realized quite an underrated kicker

1696
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 2: is worthy. He's in my top ninety Kyami Fairbard shout

1697
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 2: out to oh yeah, keep along, Miami Fairman. Maybe he

1698
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 2: should be even higher.

1699
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: Where do you have him?

1700
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 2: Uh, he's like in the top ninety. Oh just got

1701
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 2: cut a year ago. If you've been annoying with as

1702
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 2: a kicker within a year, then I you don't make

1703
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,839
Speaker 2: the top one hundred. But Kyamie Fairman has been awesome

1704
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 2: in the last two years. I feel like he deserves it.

1705
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: Greg the leg zerline was a monster this special year.

1706
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 1: I didn't realize he's in free agency.

1707
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 2: He's a free agency.

1708
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,799
Speaker 1: Got to lock him up. We got tagg his ass.

1709
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably will give Fairman a nice little deal,

1710
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 2: big bone.

1711
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 1: Randy's out there. Dick or the Kicker he is not.

1712
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 2: He would have been. I honestly would have put Dick

1713
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 2: or the Kicker in the top fifty or something. But

1714
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,839
Speaker 2: he's one of those fake exclusive right now. Oh yeah,

1715
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 2: he has no actual bargaining all.

1716
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 1: Right, anything else, Greg, I think you did an excellent job.

1717
01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: Minor quibbles overall. Certainly it's going to seem complete when

1718
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 1: compared to the free agency two thirteen. But honestly, uh,

1719
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: that's just that's not even your fault. That's more our

1720
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 1: our ambition towering over all rival.

1721
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 4: And we and you know, according to our plan, we

1722
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 4: need to probably get to work in the next hour

1723
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 4: or two on that.

1724
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 1: Oh, send the bots the box stork, you know.

1725
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 2: Scheduling Note, we're not scheduled to be back till Tuesday.

1726
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 2: There'll be NFL combine. We'll be talking about all those

1727
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 2: press conference. But you guys have a long weekend in

1728
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 2: front of you. Of just in the lab watch and

1729
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 2: tape works.

1730
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: A couple It's a couple of dropdowns and then an

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Speaker 1: enter click, and then we we go get a couple

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Speaker 1: of beers, and we come back and most of the

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Speaker 1: work's done quite frankly beautiful. Yeah, that's how it works.

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Speaker 3: I think, Well, it's gonna work fun.

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Speaker 1: Does it comb? Does it literally comb through the Internet

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Speaker 1: and grab bits and pieces of everyone else?

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Speaker 4: I mean it will probably grab some of Greg's so

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Speaker 4: that's what we're gonna have to be careful of.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll replace some of the more obvious bits of

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01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: plagiarism with a little Sessler flair.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I would like, uh, thank you, n I would like

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Speaker 2: to c ana I bought try to generate an average

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Speaker 2: Mark Sessler, but that.

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Speaker 1: We're going to supplement the AI with some seslerisms.

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Speaker 4: Really just to sneak it past, you know, editorial to

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Speaker 4: a couple of keywords and they believe that we've done

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Speaker 4: all the work.

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Speaker 1: I come in with a happy Gilmore reference.

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01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 3: Dan's back to his old tricks.

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Speaker 2: It's like, hey, what about Live Like they really bang

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Speaker 2: themselves by calling themselves live before the Internet.

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Speaker 1: You know. I make a couple like Logan Roy references

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Speaker 1: here and there send glory. Glory is ours? All right, Randy,

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Speaker 1: you did a nice job. Who's the Kendall Roy of

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Speaker 1: the free agency list? Mm hmm, it's a good one

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Speaker 1: to think about, all right, Randy, get back to us

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01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 1: in exactly one week. Thank you for filling in my pleasure,

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Speaker 1: all right till Monday. Tuesday he the call.